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dc-and-damirae · 1 month
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new head cannon
talia goes to gotham to spend time with damian but he is no longer intrested in their normal forms of family bonding (Crime). So she lets him info dump to her about his new hobby crime fighting and he goes along with it. so she teams up with the batfam for a week and a half before going back.
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mistergreatbones · 7 months
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between willis and catherine being retconned into being abusive/neglectful, that fucking shoehorned talia romance, bruce having the character consistency of cottage cheese, and shelia's girlboss betrayal, what's really impressive is not jason coming back to life but how he seems to be holding the world reserve of shitty parents
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hello-eden · 2 months
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Dcxdp #20
Idea of selena, talia, Danny and Bruce used to be a squad
Danny needs to escape some sort of GIW or Fenton parents situation that leads him through the ghost Zone and through to the Lazarus Pit.
Talia and Bruce stumble upon him by accident during Bruce's training at the league. They reported to Ras and Danny gets introduced into the league. They are originally a trio until they pick up Selina during one of her heists outside of Gotham.  Bruce knows Selina from when he was younger and recognizes her so they take her with them.
all of them do missions for Ras for a while until they split off when Bruce leaves. Selina goes back to Gotham with Bruce, Talia stays with the league and Danny goes into the ghost Zone to figure things out.
An important part of this AU that has not been mentioned yet is that Damian is Danny and Bruce's kid in this au. Talia and Selina were hooking up with each other while jokingly pretending to be in a love triangle with Bruce because of a mission that became an inside joke.
Danny and Bruce are pining after each other that ends with a one nighter before Bruce leaves that results in Damien. Danny, not being able to bring a living child into the zone and for his protection , tasks Talia with looking after Damien. Ras makes Damien his heir due to Danny being seen as of the Lazarus Pit. Only the al ghul knows that Damian is not Talia's kid.
When Talia gives Damian to Bruce she tells him it's his and Danny's kid but that no one can know. Bruce agrees to pass Damian off as hers and his to protect Damian. Damian knows Talia is not his birth mother but the rest of the bat kids don't. Selina also knows that Talia is not the bio mom because the beloved thing is a joke she is in on and she remembers Danny.
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Lol Danny as Phantom trying to summon Jazz as a prank and accidentally summons one of the bats instead. Danny and the bat in question just stare at eachother for a second, eyes flicking between the other person and the obvious Lazarus green summoning circle.
The bat asks a question but before they can even finish Danny yells, "wrONG NUMBER" and breaks the summoning circle thus sending the bat back to wherever they were at the point of summoning.
Danny assumes he must have gotten something wrong and tries again and this time succeeds in summoning Jazz who is very disgruntled at his prank.
This goes on with Danny accidentally summoning various bats by accident and batcow one time while trying to summon cujo. It isn't until Nightwing gets sent back again that he mentions what was happening to him every so often to the others that they all realize they had been summoned multiple times. Batman is freaking out because all his kids??? Got summoned through some kinda magic circle??? And no one told him what was going on???
Bruce also wondered why he wasn't summoned but all the other bats were. The kid who kept summoning them didn't seem like a threat but it was all to suspicious and unnerving.
Danny was getting annoyed. Who were these people and why did they appear everytime he tried to use a spell thats supposed to summon siblings? Is he adopted or something? Mom and Dad never had the greatest relationship with him and his sister but this is something they would tell him, right?
Right?
Bonus: One time he uses the circle while he's in danger to summon his mom so she can beat up Vlad who's gone completely off the rails. He makes sure he's in his living form and looks all weak and small as possible.
This turned out to be a mistake as either Catwoman or Talia Al Ghul appears(writers choice). Danny is confused but mis bio mom recognized him immediately and Vlad gets obliterated. Depending on the choice Vlad is either Souped or Killed and Danny gets kidnapped regardless.
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psychokatrixxxy · 2 months
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...so, I keep thinking about the Mama's boy song with Jason Todd... and it's honestly so fucking sad... because who he grew up with as his mother is the reason he started stealing tires, to look after her, and she died from an overdose, and then his bio mom, who he runs away from Bruce to find, sells him out to Joker and then dies in the warehouse explosion with him, Jay even tried to save her despite what she did... so in a really sad and fucked up way, Jason is a Mama's boy... doing so much, giving up so much for his moms....
And then there's Talia, who could be interpreted as a sort of mother figure to Jason... Jason saw Talia as a mother, and she used that to manipulate him, fueling his anger against B, Dick, and Tim....
Jason just wants a mom 😭💔
(This is all my interpretation. Don't take it too seriously)
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minnesota-fats · 2 years
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I have seen many of Talia and Bruce are Dannys parents and heard of Danny being Selina's son and but NEVER have I saw Danny still being Maddies son, but Bruce is his biological dad too.
( It could be from a very drunken one-night stand and while Jack knows Danny isn't his biologically, he still treated him like his son which made Maddie love him more )
Maddie doesn't even bother telling Bruce out of fear he might use his money to take Danny from her and the whole Playboy Image wasn't helping.
Like imagine the meltdown from Damian since he's not the only blood son on top of being the youngest son to boot. And if he sees Dani he slowly gaslights himself into thinking she's the secret love child of his father and Selina and might worries there is some weight to Bruce's Playboy Image and there's a 4th blood sibling out there.
Talia wondering who the heck is this Madeline Fenton and how the HELL did she get give Bruce a son first? She's now in the top 5 on her shitlist.
And Vlad having a stroke at the realization that Danny is NOT Jack's bio son but freaking Bruce Wayne, the Playboy from Gotham. And if Bruce and Vlad don't like each other than this will be even more hilarious.
I have seen a fix with Jason as the blood father and Maddie still his mom but not Bruce!
I wonder how they would have met, Maddie and Bruce? Was there a engineer convention at Wayne tower? I bet Bruce had to go and Maddie and Jack were there because SCIENCE!
But Jack probably ran off leaving Maddie at the bar and Maddie just straight up NOT having a good time because this was the 90’s and if I am not mistaken a good chunk of the engineering field was male dominated and a bit misogynistic. And she got fuckin’ plastered and in her drinking haze might have even mistaken one tall black haired blue eyed man for another and decided that leaving with an equal (probably less so but still) drunk Bruce was DTF this random red head because he was also sick of all the misogynistic scientists around. (Also we all know that Bruce has a thing for women who can kick his fuckin ass!)
Or if your not into that the only other thought I had was Jack and Maddie have an open relationship and the reason Maddie doesn’t date Vlad is cuz he’s a big creep! (Jack would so date Vlad if he was given the chance!)
Anyway, after she wakes up and takes one look at the man next to her and is like, “that’s not Jack…” before hightailing it’s out of there!(probably in some sort of eccentric way) She looks for her actual husband the morning after. She realizes what has happened and was going to go home and sleep off her hangover before she tells her husband what had happened. Depending on the scenario Maddie would either be a bundle of nerves or she would be excited to say she found out she slept with Bruce Wayne of all people. (Even though he is known for his Brucie persona, both Jack and Maddie know no simple minded man can run a business like Wayne Industry’s)
Either way Jack would be hyped cuz BRUCE FRICKIN WAYNE!!!! And when he found out Maddie was prego be ever MORE FUCKIN HYPED cuz OH MY FUDGE ANOTHER BABY! (They may not be the best parents but they sure as shit love their kids) Maddie isn’t sure she should keep Danny but seeing Jack so excited she realized it didn’t matter because if he was so happy and she would be happy too.
Cue danny being born and Jazz being a big sister who is very excited to finally know where babies come from (and for her new baby brother I guess). Years later it probably would have never come up again but Vlad during his cloning phase decides to look into Danny’s dna some more. “Probably jacks dumb dna messing with their proses!” (Vlad would so gaslight himself into believing that even though intelligence doesn’t effect dna) and he finds not a sing bit of Jack in Danny.
After recovering from the shock of it Vlad starts scheming, comes up with a plan to use this to drive Jack and Maddie apart. Goes to Jack and in the most dramatic way possible tells Jack about the SHOCKING discovery that danny isn’t his son!
And Jack is like, “oh I know that! And don’t be silly Vlad! Danno might not be mine biologically but he’s still my boy!” And Vlad is about to rip his hair out because of course Jack wouldn’t be bothered with that! What a FOOL!!!
Then Vlad thinking he could salvage this decides to tell Danny who just thinks Vlad is fucking with him until Vlad barrages into the house at 9 am after looking more into who Danny bio dad would be and in the most offended outrage Danny has ever seen from the older halfa says “you slept with BRUCE WAYNE????” To Maddie causing both Danny and Jazz to spit out whatever the hell they were eating all over the table. (Jack: I know right? Pretty cool!!)
After that discovery Danny yeets himself into the ghost zone cuz wow, isn’t that a world shattering discovery to be thrusted upon you at 9 in the morning!
How the Batfam find out I’m not entirely sure? Maybe Danny wanted to meet him (probably not) or maybe it was ghosts hearing about it from some fight that Vlad and Danny have in the GZ and spreading rumors from ghost to ghost until it reaches the undead ears of Boston Brand (Deadman) who tells Constantine or Zatana who tell Bruce who just is plain confused as to why ghosts of all thing would know he has an unknown son (who may be dead???) Or maybe Talia finds out first and sends assassins to kill Maddie (who takes them on like a fuckin’ champ!) and Bruce follows the league of Assassins activity and finds that one woman he had a one night stand with and sees her son who looks too much like him to be a coincidence. Or maybe Damian found out first and this was when he first came to live with Bruce and he was still a little murder-y. He fucking tracks Danny down and is like “there can only be one!” And Danny is like “one what???? But jokes on you there is also more than one of me!” (Dani/Elle) thus causing Damien to go into a rage only to be stopped by what ever Batfam came to stop him! (Danny: what’s with the small angry child?) Dami pouts but moves on. (Can’t kill what’s already dead, maybe???)
Either way Danny would be welcomed into the bat fam with open arms! (Dami is reluctant but comes around when he finds out about Cujo (Dami: and I guess Danny is ok too))
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ghoulysaphomet · 2 days
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ok but batman au where talia basically adopts jason and gaslights everyone into thinking he's her bio-kid, and then when bruce fucks up again, kate sorta decides to adopt jason and now he has two kickass lesbian moms.
i just want to see a scenario where;
(on a rooftop, Jason is hurt and Kate is tending to him. Batman arrives to berate jay or kate bcs one of them killed a man that night. they're interrupted by a almost silent click of heels)
T: Hello, beloved.
B: Not now, talia.
T, with a graceful sneer on her face: I wasn't talking to you.
k: :)
B: (surprised pikachu face)
J: ya this is cute n all but im still bleeding out can we save this for later moms? k thx
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zerogravityinq · 3 months
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Ever see those posts about women having massive babies because their husbands are huge like Hawaiin/secretly Shaquille o neal?. No? Am I the only one who gets all the baby content despite being child free???
ANYWAY I feel like no one talks about the potential of any bio kid of Bruce being massive. Like yeah Bruce is normal sized and so is Damian/Helena/Terry but like what if they weren't? Thomas Wayne was a big dude and he wasn't even a fighter!
Can you imagine Martha carting around 4 month old Bruce who is somehow the size of a 3 year old and she just narrows her eyes at Thomas like this is your fault and Thomas just shrugs because Wayne men are just Like That™
Fast forward to Talia who sees Damian's projected growth and size and is like 'you want me to carry what???? Where?????' and like immediately sets up for him to be a test tube baby cuz ain't no way.
Diana (in that weird timeline where Bruce and Diana have a kid) thinks nothing of it and just has the baby. Both her and Bruce are warriors so naturally their child would be sturdy.
Selina bitches at Bruce every chance she gets because the fuck you mean her toddler is 4 but Helena looks like she in the senior year of high school and the star quarterback???
Terry McGinnis' mom immediately know that something is off because her husband isn't built like that and she has seen baby pictures of him and he wasn't this absolute unit at the age of 42 weeks.
Not that any of them are like fat, just dense and grows fast. Cute babies but tf u mean they are not a year yet and look like a full sized toddler???
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fancyfade · 5 months
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Well I read batman and robin #5
At least they got a new artist. Now all they have to do is get a new writer.
Like it wasn't awful-awful but it also wasn't really good. There were some moments that could've been cute if they fit more in with dcs other comics at this time, it feels like it's very disconnected
It seems as if Williamson's scene in batman and robin #4 was not actually trying to show good mom talia, just "not literally the worst" talia, as we see damian reflect on his previous teachers, thinking of ras and talia and saying "some were not great" and comparing them unfavorably to his new bio teacher. Like that's as far as Williamson is willing to retcon.
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thelibrarian1895 · 1 month
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Bat bio donors
So Catherine Todd, unfortunately, wasn't Jason's bio mom, even if she was his mom in every other way that matters. Embezzler, child trafficker, and Joker associate Shelia Haywood was his biological mother...probably.
There was no DNA test so I remain unconvinced.
That being said, I see no acceptable evidence that Willis Todd was Jason's bio father. (And if there is, shhh, don't care)
Yes Bruce could be his bio dad but boring, be more creative!
For example, someone else who's based in Gotham, who might have a fling and not follow up on it for very whatever reason, and who might be the namesake of our favorite gun wielding bat: Jason Bood. Yes Shelia, if she is the mother, may have put Willis on the birth certificate, but there's nothing to say that she didn't have an evening with a man with a charming accent, considerable experience, and a rather two faced nature.
Or perhaps someone who is a tiny bit less volatile such as David Cain.
Or honestly there's enough weirdness in Gotham that Jason's other bio donor was Nocturna, the woman who would later want to adopt him while he was Robin and she was, in fact, though she didn't know it, trying to get her own bio child.
Furthermore, Bruce as Tim Drake's bio donor, yes, good, understandable, likely even.
However, there are other options, for example:
Janet spends a great deal of time going around the world and with various artifacts, some of these artifacts could be magical in nature. That magic may have various effects on the average person and one of the more popular things that people in ancient times sought revolved around fertility control, to improve or prevent. Janet might trip over more than a few artifacts designed to improve fertility, let's say even to the point that some who might not normally be able to sire children might in fact be capable of doing so with Janet while she's still under the influence of such magic, such as:
Lady Shiva who admires Janet's ability to handle both a growing business and her academic pursuits.
Ra's Al Ghul who came by for an artifact and had a fling with the lady who found it mostly because why not? Yes if Tim ever found out, or Ra's ever found out, it would result in considerable mental distress, but it could also be hilarious. Flip a coin to decide if this would make Talia want Tim dead more or less than she already does.
Some ancient god who's essentially mortal at this point and has been clinging to existence by the thinnest thread and really the only reason their name is known at this point is because it was in a letter about very bad copper. Tim receives no benefits from this parent except above average endurance and healing which is how he's survived. He's also as stubborn as the nameless god that's hung on for four thousand or so years.
Gotham itself is Tim's bio donor and this is why tiny baby stalker Tim didn't die a thousand times over while he was taking pictures, Gotham was looking out for their son.
Then there's Cassandra, "one who is all" who may or may not be Shiva's daughter.
Honestly for Shiva and for Talia, given the danger they put themselves in and the stress that pregnancy can do to a body, plus the necessary time to heal properly afterwards, the canon where Damian is grown in a tube makes sense and I wouldn't be surprised if Shiva took a page from Talia's book.
Shiva as the mother of "one who is all" can make sense. The other bio donor, well, let's look at other options.
Slade perhaps? He's had quite a few remarkable children, and can handle none of them, but that wouldn't stop him from being a candidate.
If you're a fan of wuxia or xianxia novels, look for or make up some ancient cultivator that Shiva sought out for training perhaps and on that strength Cassandra can pick up cultivation and become that much more awesome, maybe even teach it to her brothers.
Sect Leader Cass o((>ω< ))o
Or someone can be related to or connected to a Lamont Crantson and see if they can step out of his Shadow.
Dick's bio parents were freakin' awesome so jumping over him and also leaving Duke's parentage alone though more distant ancestors for either of them, such as great-great grandmothers or grandfathers might be interesting. Dick has a Talon in the family tree but who else might be hanging around in there?
For example, Santa is real in the dc universe. Tim and his team could have witnessed the death of Dick's maternal great-great-great-great grandpa.
As for Duke, if his family has been in Gotham for longer than a generation, there've got to be some serious weirdos in his bloodline, maybe a lesser known Talon or Queen Mab.
Damian not being the son of Bruce and Talia would be a serious blow to the kid and not worth it. Giving him blood siblings is more fun. He already has a problem learning to share his dad with his adopted siblings, sharing with blood siblings would be good for him.
Stephanie? An additional dad option would probably give her some sort of mental crisis since she originally based her vigilante career on defeating her deadbeat, second rate rogue father. It would be interesting and honestly a little hilarious though if her mother had a fling with Oliver Queen.
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mistergreatbones · 1 month
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I love how Cass has one of the least developed backstories and Tim’s is also relatively blank yet they keep throwing shit at Dick and Jason. What do you mean Jason’s bio mom was run out of Gotham for human experimentation? What do you mean Jason’s dad faked his death and became a superhero? What you mean Jason joined the Red Hood gang and fought Talia as a child? What do you mean Dick’s grandpa is the Court of Owls? What do you mean Dick’s mom was a thief? What do you mean Dick’s dad had a child with the Tony Zucco’s wife?
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aalghul · 3 months
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jason who knows Talia is gaslighting him/everyone about being his bio mom but the last time he tried confronting someone about motherism he died so he just decides to keep quiet for now
he’s learned his lesson and is now just going to roll with whatever the universe throws at him. he’s been punished for interfering already
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hello-eden · 2 months
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Master post
Dc x Dp ideas
1 Fenton's work for LOA
2 clone body misunderstanding
3 JL meets everlasting trio misunderstanding
4 deaged Damien meets alt Bruce/Danny
5 Ancient royal family misunderstanding
6 Danny and Kon rise Elle/Dani
7 DID/twin misunderstanding
8 dan is Ras
9 is T!danny part 1
10 Danny is Damien
11 Danny and Damien time travel
12 Jason is Danny and Bruce's bio kid
13 medieval misunderstanding
14 Tim! Danny and Ras! Vlad
15 Mara! Dani and Dan! Damien
16 mother of evil Dani misunderstanding
17 late to the prophesy
18 Dani is Kon
19 Amity Park illusions 
20 Selena, taila, Danny and Bruce used to be a squad
21 fake villain Danny
22 Damian is phantom's human half - story post
23 Jason is dan
24 Jason is Danny
25 Ambassador Danny
26 Sam is Damien
27 Tim is Danny
28 Danny is a clone of Hal Jordan and Bruce Wayne
29 failed Danny clones bat kids
30 Vlad is Ras
31 past life memories
32 ghost magic
33 dick and Danny have kids(Elle and dan)
34 Bernard is Danny
35 no memories
36 batfam are fentons
37 de aged rebirth
38 dick is dan
Danny as Janet drake
missing
Dead Tired
Scandal
one night stand baby
second chance
Dead Serious
pit demon Danny
Dani/Elle is Danny and Damien's kid
Dead on Main
Elle/Dani is Jason and Danny's kid
crime boss Danny
Kids the sequel(Not connected to the other post)
incorrect Quotes
dc-favorite
dead tired #1
dead tired #2
demon twins
surrounded
stabbed
skill issue
Danny phantom
outsider pov Vlad and Danny
fake human au
family tree
Vlad is to raise Ellie and Dan
Mom dan
dan and Danny co parenting
Pitch Pearl misunderstanding with Dani
pjoxdp
T!danny Al Ghul au
part 1
part 2
sub au
sub au #2
sub au #3
Talia's nightmare
T!Danny meets Bruce
Damian meets Elle
Reverse Robins au
first post
second post
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airasilver · 1 year
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I’ve read fics where Jason or Tim are Bruce’s biological sons. One thing I just thought about…are there fics where Dick is Bruce’s biological son? Where all three of them are? Heck, are there fics where all the kids are Bruce’s? If so, where are they?
I want to read about Bruce going to adopt Dick or to become his guardian and find out he already has custody just from being his dad. (Bruce was running around the world so…)
I want a fic where Steph runs away because Cluemaster (Arthur?) is going to kill her after killing her mom (Crystal?) because he found out Steph is not his. I want her running into Dick or even Bruce and Bruce figuring out she’s his because Steph looks like Martha.
Duke goes looking for his bio dad because he needs someone to care for him with his parents out of commission (He’s adopted by them and has known from the beginning but not who his biological parents are.) thanks to Joker.
Cass is a mistake Lady Shiva had, she’s not to Bruce, and tried to pull off as David Cain’s. She also looks like Martha.
Jason’s easy. Sheila pulled it off until Catherine left Willis when she got clean and she wanted to protect Jason from her husband. She didn’t worry about herself, just her son.
Tim, Tim was found out because Catherine ran into the boy one day when she was taking a walk close to where their properties met. She noticed no one with him and asked Alfred about the Drakes. Alfred found out Tim was Bruce’s when Tim came running over with his birth certificate and just wanted Catherine.
Damian was still born in the League of Assassins but Talia brought him over as a baby instead of 9/10.
Barbara is Dick’s best friend/ex. Jim is called uncle by all of them. (Alfred is their grandfather even if they all call him Alfred.)
Catherine lives full time in the manor and she and Bruce might have something going on. Talia has a room there and might be with both Bruce and Catherine. The kids don’t care. They call both Talia and Catherine Mom and Mama.
I just want fanfics where the kids are Bruce’s biological children.
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bluejaysandblackbats · 2 months
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Time to Add More Fics to This Account: Batfam Edition
Lost Boys: Canon divergent AU (Jonathan Lane Kent, Jason Todd, Catherine Todd, Boston Brand, Bruce Wayne, Talia al Ghul, Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Raven, John Constantine, Ra's al Ghul, Tim Drake)
Moon Rocks: Canon divergent AU, Catherine Todd is Jason's Bio Mom (Catherine Todd, Jason Todd, Natalia Knight)
Grave Circumstances: Monster AU (Jason Todd, Original Characters)
Seeing Ghosts (Oneshot): Ghost AU (Jason Todd, Jonathan Lane Kent)
Ocean View: No powers AU (Jason Todd, Jonathan Lane Kent, Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Chris Kent, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake)
Chess Not Checkers: Canon divergent AU (Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Roman Sionis, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Original Character(s))
Hair Trigger: College/University AU (Jason Todd, Laney Kent, Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Bruce Wayne, Natalia Knight, Conner Kent, Cassie Sandsmark, Jonathan Samuel Kent, Chris Kent, Bart Allen, Tim Drake)
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lazaruspiss · 30 days
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dick as damis bio mom aus lowkey irk me bc 1) liable to come w talia slander 2) dick and talia are entirely different races
like... even in the stories where dick is roma hes typically still notably white passing. and so making dick and bruce damis bio parents. do u see where i start getting hung up
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