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sailoreuterpe · 6 months
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Please feel free to post why you do or don't go to therapy, experiences with different therapists, or anything else that might give more data.
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reasonsforhope · 6 months
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"In New Zealand, Pacific Island scientists have just been given a large grant to run a study trial on the use of the traditional kava preparation and kava ceremony for treating PTSD.
Believing it could help treat PTSD and other trauma in soldiers and veterans, police officers, and corrections facility staff, the two scientists want to revise the reputation of kava, which was damaged by a pharmaceutical rush into the product some years ago.
Dr. Apo Aporosa of Fijian descent on his mother’s side, and Dr. Sione Vaka from Tonga, have received $1 million from the Health Research Council to combine kava drink with the traditional ceremony of conversation.
“I’m so stoked that Health Research Council has faith in us as a team to do this critically important work,” Dr. Aporosa told the NZ Herald. “It’s likely we’re going to spend a million dollars to prove what traditional Pacific knowledge has been trying to tell Europeans for the last 200 years.”
Kava comes in many traditional names, all relating to the root of the Piper methysticum plant. Across the islands of the Pacific, the root was stirred in water and drank for its subtle euphoric, but also sedative properties. Accompanying the drink was a Talanoa or what Dr. Aporosa is referring to as “talk therapy,” but what was essentially a heart-to-heart conversation.
Their study will take two groups of people and give them both the whole kava drink plus the talanoa, referred to as “the full package” while another group will receive just the talanoa, and another group just the kavalactones—the active ingredient in the plant.
In 2009, the Cochrane Institute confirmed that kava was probably more effective than placebo for treating anxiety. At the time, pharmaceutical and supplement companies had quickly isolated kavalactones and sold them as a natural relaxant.
Like most indigenous populations, New Zealand’s Māori population suffers from higher rates of stress, trauma, and anxiety than the national average, and the Health Research Council believes that the Kava ceremony is the most sensible way to fulfill this unmet need.
“We do know that… talk therapy works for some PTSD cases,” Dr. Aporosa said, adding that talanoa is basically talk therapy, done while sitting on the floor rather than in chairs.
“We know that kava has relaxant properties, that kava is a natural anti-anxiety medication, so we combine those two elements in a culturally influenced space, and we’ve got something here that’s unique.”
Aporosa understands the situation better than most. Not only is he from Pacific stock, but he was a police officer who had to leave the force due to PTSD from the line of duty.
His experience traveling the world speaking with former military and police got him the Fulbright Scholarship to study the kava ceremony in Hawai’i, another island culture that uses the plant.
His hope is to show that it works significantly in the trial, and then release a free e-book about how to perform the ceremony and intervention, in order to ensure the largest number of people can access the knowledge of this traditional Pacific medicine."
-via Good News Network, July 5, 2023
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seidigardensystem · 1 year
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Your Words Matter
Dear Therapists,
I had just logged into a Zoom session for my Diagnosing Pathology class and my cohort was in deep discussion with one particular student as we all waited for our professor. This student in particular was already working in some sort of clinical setting, not yet giving therapy, but a new client profile had come across her desk with a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder. She didn’t know much about the diagnosis herself, but she was concerned because her boss said, “Whoa, good luck with that one. Borderlines are very difficult to work with.”
Difficult. It’s not the first time I’ve heard that word. Every time I hear a professional utter the word, “difficult” when referencing a client it stings. Is that how you really see us? As patients/clients that are stuck in a downward spiral whose struggles are too much for you to handle? Don’t you believe in what you do and that there is hope for us?
My heart breaks for whoever this person is that has borderline personality disorder because the cards have been stacked against them before they’ve even gotten started. One of my school assignments required me to write about working with a difficult population and this was my response:
“If we get the idea that a particular diagnosis or population is difficult to work with it feels like we are setting ourselves up for failure. Maybe we will treat them differently or have lower expectations or refuse to work with them because we have a negative perception.”
In 2022, I attended the Healing Together conference hosted by An Infinite Mind in Orlando, Florida. I was sitting in a session where I could hear and learn about lived experiences with dissociation and an excerpt from a book was read aloud as an example of how some clinicians view dissociative identity disorder. The presenter who read the excerpt was sad, the audience was sad, and I felt infuriated. The gist of the excerpt talked about how a clinician should be wary because clients with dissociative identity disorder are difficult to work with and that they bring unsolvable problems to therapy.
Unsolvable problems? Listen, if a client’s problem was easy to solve, they wouldn’t need therapy! Of course we are bringing our unsolvable problems to you. We believe in your ability to help us. We were trusting you enough to share our struggles. When we hear you call us difficult, challenging, resistant, and a myriad of other words, you break our trust and confidence.
My ask of you is that you reframe your perspective of difficult clients. My therapist always says that behavior is communication, so when you find a client’s behavior particularly difficult, ask yourself, “What is my client trying to tell me?” “What does my client need right now?” Seek out peer consultation or supervision without passing judgment on how difficult a client is for you.
I’ve always carried around my own judgment about myself as a client in therapy. I used to tell my therapist, “Thank you for putting up with me” and her response was, “There’s nothing to put up with.” When I had the opportunity to watch her present at a conference once, I went up to her just before it started to tell her she’d do a great job. She just smiled and said, “Everything I’m presenting today, I learned from you.” I thought about that for a long time. Not once, in our years of therapy had she ever shown any indication of frustration, feeling challenged, or felt I was difficult. She simply adapted her interventions as needed.
The NICABM posted back on June 11, 2022 on their Facebook page a quote from Pat Ogden, PhD; “When we call clients resistant or difficult, it’s because our interventions are not working and we feel incompetent.” As clients, we don’t think you’re incompetent. We think there’s something wrong with us and we believe you when we hear you say we’re difficult. So, please, choose carefully. Your words matter.
Sincerely,
A DID Client
References
NICABM. (2022, June 11). What may at first seem like opposition or resistance can often signal a client’s deepest struggles. [Status Update]. [Image attached]. Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/NICABM/photos/10159170676011314
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4spooniesupport · 9 months
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How many therapists does it take to change a light bulb?
Just one but they have to want to change first
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If you are autistic what is your relationship with talk therapy
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capfalcon · 8 months
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i hate this "i'm too self-aware for therapy" thing bc like. therapy can be so useful as just like, an outlet for everyday life or a confidential person you trust, or literally just as a Medical Professional who is there to support you no matter what you do. therapy isn't like surgery where they pinpoint exactly what the problem is and then fix it. it's a slow, possibly never-ending process where you use a medical professional to help you get through life a little easier, or possibly a lot easier. also, being "self-aware" sometimes doesn't mean shit. yes, you know what the problem is, or what you think the problem is, but having an outside perspective on how to deal with it, or the repercussions, or the triggers, can be immensely helpful.
i also think while there are immense risks to therapy, it's a very useful tool for a LOT of people.
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this just crossed my mind, but i realized we’ve been in psych hospital, PHP (partial hospitalization), IOP (intensive outpatient), and many different types of individual therapy (talk, art, occupational, etc). but yeah, we’re here if anyone has any questions about any of those! (don’t know anything about residential though)
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craycraybluejay · 5 months
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I SORTA ALMOST TOLD MY THERAPIST SOMETHING I'VE NEVER TOLD ANYONE IRL AND HAVE VERY HESITANTLY TOLD TO ONE PERSON IN GENERAL
PROGRESS. I CAN DO THIS. I CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
I stumbled through it and was super vague about it and omitted a lot and made several awkward attempts to discuss the scenery in my immediate space as a way to stall and totally wasted time doing all that but I managed to get further today to saying something I'm downright terrified to say out loud than ever before. I feel like I can do it next time. Really actually go through with it. I should take a xan before my next session to relax so I don't mentally backpedal or panic or anything and actually break the dam. just the one session so it'll be easier to talk about later as the topic's been breached. maybe even bring up a few other things i haven't nearly as badly wanted to talk to someone about but would probably benefit from some therapizing over. Just really get it all out there, maybe cry a bit. I can do it. I have survived far worse than this.
But like. I made the setup, you know. I can reference it next session and ease into the topic knowing I've already told on myself enough to at least reveal the general nature of the issue. It feels like it's already mostly done and my stomach is in knots but that'll mean next time isn't as scary as it could've otherwise been. I'm proud of myself and I think it's really important to take it slow to tell someone something you need to say but are scared to. But take it. Slow and intentionally vague is better than not at all. You are doing so good. If you have opened up to someone through much fear I am so proud of you and you are so brave. And I'm proud of myself, and I'm brave. And sick or not I am loved and extremely lucky to have a good therapist in my corner.
#therapy#personal#talk therapy#accomplishments#achievements#panicking#but also#feeling already less burdened#vulnerability#bravery#i love my therapist#anxiety#therapy is ugly sometimes therapy requires a lot of work on your own part sometimes and some leaps of faith#“go to therapy” i am and its hard and it wont “convert” me into becoming normal or “fix” me or make me more palatable to you#therapy is hard#but with the right person it is very worthwhile. you are not there to be normal. you are there for support and advice#and it is work. hard work. your therapist can't force you to do anything but you're going to have to work hard to feel better and live happy#practicing gratitude#but just for my loved ones and therapist everything else still sucks just as bad as it did yesterday. but im still lucky on this front#personal rambles#hype me up#hyping myself up#just really trying super hard to overcome the hurdles so i have the opportunity to put in the work and feel better#trying my best#mental health#she is so good. inherently. no matter what she sees a person worthy of kindness and not a monster#i just know if you gave her a literal serial killer as a client she would treat them with the same dignity kindness and respect as anyone#else#she is just that good. like a guardian angel. her job is to help you and not to judge you and you know that she loves the work she does#that she really cares and that she is a beacon of hope for anyone who talks to her. i wish i could be so good. i admire her more than anyone
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uschi-the-listener · 11 months
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Therapy
quit saying:
my dog is my therapist
my friends are my therapy
my therapy is painting/throwing pots/ writing/playing tiddlywinks
any of that
only therapy is therapy
unless your dog
makes you drill down
into your most uncomfortable confusing thoughts
face the shit you have been running away from
help you find things
you can do for yourself
to be able to move on
if your friends are your therapy
when does it end
are you going to ditch them
when you feel better
what kind of friendship is that
once again do your friends want
every intimate
embarrassing
dangerous
thought/belief /feeling
on display
maybe so but
where do we go from there
how do they help
it’s a lot to ask
therapy isn’t supposed to be forever
but friendship can be
doing hobbies/artwork/games
whatever
these worthy pursuits
are not therapy
they are comforting
they can be a part of therapy
having somebody to talk to
who sees hears understands
what you have been doing
your feelings about it
where you’re going with it
great adjuncts to therapy
but not therapy
therapy isn’t fun
it isn’t easy
if you’re doing it right
therapy only makes you feel better
after the core wounds
are discovered/opened/cleaned and stitched
none of that is fun
it takes time and tears
and facing the worst of the worst
but it heals
keep your dogs/friends/hobbies
set them free
only therapy is therapy
.
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kaithesoothsayer · 2 years
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Story of my life 🤷🏾‍♀️
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livingloved007 · 15 days
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If you need someone that you can converse with, someone that will listen, someone that won’t judge and will genuinely be there for you. I got you! Hit me up on WhatsApp. I’ll be your friend.
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seidigardensystem · 4 months
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Silence is Not Your Enemy
Dear Therapists,
I know now that most of your clients show up and talk almost nonstop for the fifty minutes they spend with you each week. They engage with you. They talk to you. They actually respond to your CBT strategies and the two of you are able to dance the steps needed to change thinking and behaviors. It is your normal and their normal, however it is anything but my normal.
I started graduate school and the first set of counseling tapes we had to watch were the Gloria tapes. We observed Carl Rogers and Albert Ellis conducting sessions with the client called Gloria. She chattered away the entire time with these two men. It totally flabbergasted us, and when we saw you next we told you how the school showed us some fake counseling tapes because no one talks that much in their sessions.
Oh how you laughed.
Us non-talkers really provide a challenge for you. It is a challenge and you have to step outside of the box and outside of your comfort zone. It is easy to personalize our behavior and think that somehow you are doing something wrong. It might touch your ego and wounds in such a way that you feel the need to defend yourself or even blame us for our inability to talk. We are resistant. We are not ready. We are avoidant. We are attention-seeking. We are difficult.
Please, we need you to rise to the challenge. Working with trauma means working with dissociation. Working with trauma and dissociation means working with attachment wounds. We are not just anxious and we are not just avoidant. We are disorganized in our attachment style because part of us had to be attached to our caregiver to survive and could not know about the abuse that the other part of us had to endure. Not all parts live in the present and we replay this out with you.
We push and we pull. We need you and then we hate you. We love you and push all the boundaries by texting and emailing and demanding additional sessions and then we sit here in complete silence as you try not to pull your hair out. You offer us a coloring page and markers, which we take. We spend our fifty minutes in complete silence, coloring a picture of a bird with your colorful sharpie permanent markers. Markers. We were never allowed to have markers as a kid. (To be fair, we once took a black permanent sharpie to the kitchen chairs, table, countertops, and drew a line on the wall all the way down the hall to our bedroom and drew a line on every fancy dress we owned from the waist to the hem.)
The forbidden item in our hands told us that you trusted us not to make a mess. You trusted us to keep the markers on the paper. You even colored with us on our own page. We would pick a color out, hand it to you and point to which part of the picture we wanted you to color and you obliged. Coloring was not your thing. Trying to be creative stressed you out a bit, but you did it with us anyway.
When the fifty minutes was up, you remarked what an expensive coloring session we had. You were convinced we had wasted a session. You thought nothing happened in that little hour and you were down on yourself for not being helpful. You were convinced that talking had to occur in order for the session to be productive. They call it talk therapy for a reason, I suppose. Except, the session was productive. The session was helpful. The session was healing in ways you could not see, because as you like to point out, you have yet to develop the ability to read my mind.
Many of the most helpful therapies, for us at least, are the ones that do not involve talking. Silence can be very powerful and it is not your enemy. There is so much work happening in our brains that you cannot see and your talking CBT interventions won’t be able to touch. It doesn’t mean you are doing anything wrong. Don’t get trapped in your own mind, but stay present with us. Being present with us is the most essential tool you need.
You were present with us for fifty minutes. You were attuned to us for fifty minutes. You were calm. You were engaged without pressuring us to talk before we could. You allowed us to process. You were nonjudgmental and we felt no shame. You made the session about us and not about an agenda. We hope you are able to see how much healing occurs in a small session just like that.
Sincerely,
Your client
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4spooniesupport · 2 months
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plottwistedstory · 5 months
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…über die tiefenpsychologische Therapie, Biografiearbeit und Rollenverteilung.
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burningchandelier · 6 months
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"I feel like everything happens to you!"
-- My therapist
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fitgothgirl · 1 year
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People who are in regular/long-term therapy!
What type of therapist do you have/what are their credentials? How did you go about finding them?
I’m just tired of therapists who are seemingly just focused on addressing an acute problem and who want to make therapy very goal-oriented. I just want a therapist to talk to about many things and life in general, and I want to stick with them without trying to resolve a certain issue so I can “complete” therapy. I don’t know why this is so hard for me. Unless all therapists just say that stuff in the beginning and you still end up sticking with them long-term.
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