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#911 character analysis: Eddie
m3r1m4r5u333 · 1 month
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Yk, I've been thinking of Eddie's traumas and rather obvious Compulsory Heterosexuality-settings, and how it's influencing his life choices. How it's stopping buddie from happening.
I think where Eddie is at, mentally... Is a sort of in-between place between denial and acceptance. I think he knows he isn't straight. I think he may even have an idea of his feelings for Buck.
I think he also thinks that none of it matters. Cannot matter.
Not necessarily due to internalized homophobia. Don't get me wrong, I think there's also some of that going on - his upbringing was obviously quite traditional. I think he feels like being anything other than straight has never been an option, not for him. There's this expectation to be a catholic macho man, to marry a woman, to bring in the bread instead of really being someone who is solely responsible for parenting.
Even though he has queer friends, I think that he looks at them from the outside thinking "Good for them. I support them. I love them. That can't be my life though. I don't have that option."
This feeling of "not an option", I think, has been sort of... Where Eddie has drifted by no choice, and now he cannot imagine changing course.
It's about Chris and about Eddie's traumas. It started with Chris. He and Shannon were very young and the pregnancy was an accident. Eddie's upbringing was all about "be a man!" so Eddie tried to be a man. Take responsibility. He proposed to Shannon, tried to step into those big man shoes. It was hard. He struggled. Ran.
His desperate attempt to escape was another one that veered him more and more towards those "must be straight" settings.
He enlisted in the army, went to a warzone. That environment... Obviously further enforced these macho man settings. Must fit in.
Then, the traumas. Losing his army friends. Losing Shannon. Grief.
I think these events had a hugely repressive impact on Eddie. He'd loved these people, they were some of the closest human bonds he had. And then they were just... Gone. No warning. All of them young. Dead. Just like that.
I think these repeated sudden losses made him terrified of forming new bonds. You could not trust them to stay.
So it was safer to avoid getting close to anyone like that again. Love terrified him now, getting invested in anyone terrified him.
Obviously, he could not stop himself from loving Chris. In fact, Chris was now his entire focus.
And Eddie was scared. He needed to do this right, to be a good dad. Make sure that Chris had a good, stable childhood and would grow up to be a stable, happy adult.
But there were already so many things that were going against that - Chris thriving.
Chris was born with special needs. Eddie had freaked out and abandoned him. Then he'd returned... And Shannon had abandoned Chris. Then Eddie had uprooted them by moving. Then Christopher's mother died. And the only parent he had left was Eddie, with a job that could kill him any day.
So many earthshakes already in Christopher's life.
So it was essential that nothing else would make his childhood any harder.
Now, how could Eddie make sure that Christopher had a normal life? By finding Christopher a new mother figure. Obviously.
Because what Eddie needed... It wasn't important. All that mattered was Chris. Stepmother would provide stability.
If the idea of a relationship with a man ever entered Eddie's mind? Not an option.
It might make Christopher's life more difficult. It might be hard for Chris. What if people picked on him for having two dads? Unacceptable idea. He couldn't add more hardship to his son's life.
So a relationship with a man... Was not an option for Eddie. Could not be.
And anyway, Eddie did not even want to be with anyone he could love.
Love was terrifying. Love... You couldn't trust it. Love abandoned you. Love meant grief.
So... Even if there was someone in Eddie's life that he was drawn to? Buck.
Must suppress the idea. Ignore it. Not an option.
In so many ways. Buck was a man. Straight. Had a dangerous job. Buck could die any day.
Eddie had already almost seen it happen.
So the idea of getting any more closer to Buck was a terrifying one.
And anyway, not even an option. Buck dated women. Buck was straight.
.....
So. This is what I think Eddie's mind looks like... So far.
This is also why I'm so fucking excited about Buck dating a man and coming out!!!
I think this will be the perfect trigger for eventually turning buddie into a canon couple.
Buck coming out and dating a man will make Eddie see that hey... Christopher would be perfectly capable handling the potential stress of growing up with two dads.
We already know that Chris adores Buck. He's also super impressed with Tommy. They're his heroes, Buck is one of his favorite, closest people.
And Chris has grown up around queer people!! Hen, Karen. Their rainbow family. Which is doing perfectly fine.
I think Eddie needs to see and realise that. He needs to see Chris hanging out with out and proud queer men whom he idolizes.
Eddie also needs to see Buck with a man. And realise that the idea of him and Buck ISN'T an impossible, sad fever dream... Because turns out that there's potential. Buck isn't straight!! Buck dates men. Eddie could date men, too...
And Eddie needs to realise that he cannot avoid pain by trying to keep his distance. Pining for Buck, seeing him with another man, will be torture as well.
Also, Buck won't quit his dangerous job. Eddie won't quit his dangerous job. That won't change no matter what their relationship is like.
So there really is no good reason to not make that leap, and pursue Buck if there is any chance that the feelings might be mutual. If Buck is single again.
And yes. It's scary. He might still lose Buck any day... But life is short. And being just Buck's friend would not halt the grief... How could it? Eddie already loves him.
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bisexual-buck · 1 month
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"But Buck was trying to get Eddie's attention."
Well I have some thoughts on that! I think Buck does like Tommy, and there's no confusion for him about that. His feelings for both people can coexist!
My interpretation of last night's events for our chaotic bisexual kind of played out as him trying to get both Tommy's and Eddie's attention at different times. And not really knowing why. I think he was having feelings he couldn't really process because he didn't have the right context for those feelings and hasn't really felt them before.
So call me a clown but my thoughts are that he was definitely feeling jealous of both of them. With Eddie, he's primarily been close with only women outside of the 118, not other guys. Buck's subconscious feelings (not known to him at the time or even fully now) may have been along the lines of "Eddie likes women, I have no competition" and then in swoops Tommy (someone Buck already thinks is really cool and wanted to get to know even if he didn't quite know why yet) and his brain goes "I have competition" about both Eddie taking his new interest's attention and Tommy taking his long time interest's attention.
But then Tommy comes back into focus and clearly shows interest in Buck, so it clicks! This was that feeling! Part of the puzzle has been solved— it's just the rest that isn't as obvious to him yet.
Because without understanding his sexuality, Buck has likely only ever viewed Eddie as a friend even if along the way he has felt things that friends don't typically feel. So what we have right now is an opportunity for Buck to explore his bisexuality as a completely separate thing from Eddie, and then come to understand what he has also been feeling for Eddie without realizing before.
Or I'm completely wrong but only time will tell.
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Buck and Eddie- What Matters Most
(A Character Analysis)
Thinking about Evan Buckley 'Rolls under a ladder truck with murder in his eyes after he was crushed by one of these to save Eddie'. Thinking about Eddie Diaz 'Usually level headed at work but abandons all rational thought to run up a ladder that just got struck by lightening because Buck was at the end of it'. Thinking about Buck and Eddie 'Goes up in a helicopter during a hurricane, when Eddie was in a helicopter that crashed traumatically, and Buck died last time he was up in a storm' -Literally their traumas combined.
Thinking about 'Do you know how much Christopher misses you?!' 'Maybe I could come and see Christopher'. Thinking about 'Hey Buck? Can I spend Christmas with you?' '-I'm sorry buddy, but uh- I'm gonna be working on Christmas, with your dad'. Thinking about how Buck and Eddie slip themselves into the spaces of each other's lives, how they've entangled themselves so much that they literally cannot be unwound.
Thinking about Buck outright saying "Eddie, I've been Ana." Which is pretty on the nose. And Eddie "I'm a nester, I nest" when he literally has not succeeded at a stable relationship with a woman, not once in his life. Shannon- things were consistently rocky, they kept abandoning each other. Ana was a relationship because Eddie thought Chris needed a mother figure. Marisol is because she's pretty and there's pressure from family/friends/society for Eddie to get back into dating.
Thinking about Eddie trusting Buck with his most vulnerable self, the version of him that's barely out of youth, with war PTSD, who hears echoes of gunshots, and the pain of people dying around him. Thinking about Eddie sobbing at the pain of all his trauma- and Buck being the guy there to patch him up; literally (Eddie's room) and figuratively (Eddie's psyche). And how Eddie describes Buck as 'the guy who wants to fix things' on multiple occasions, but Eddie hasn't pushed Buck away from him. In fact Eddie implicitly requires someone who's going to push and fight to fix things. Thinking about Eddie relying on Buck- and that's why he's furious in the lawsuit arc "I couldn't call you to bail me out of jail! ....If, that was something that happened." -Notice the shame Eddie experiences in that moment, not just that everyone knows he was bailed out of jail, but because everyone just heard how much he needed Buck. Everyone heard that he assumed Buck would be the person he could always count on. -How the lawsuit didn't damage Eddie's faith Buck would be there, but instead revealed it to the 118, and that wasn't something Eddie was prepared to expose- because it's too vulnerable.
Thinking about Buck loving with everything he has -to the point of clinging onto relationships that are damaging him. And Eddie insisting he's let go & isn't lingering in the past: 'You have to move on Buck- I have.' When that's a complete lie, and he's been repressing things as a coping mechanism for as long as possible. "I've got a reservoir of Catholic guilt just lying dormant, waiting to be activated."
Thinking about how they match each other and compliment each other in all the right ways. They both died, and saw each other die. They've both howled each other's names- and the other has no idea. They've both been searching blindly for the relationship that will 'fix them' and make them normal.
Eddie trusts Buck enough to rely on him, and here's the kicker- it's not just with Christopher. Buck does help Eddie with Christopher- the number 1 priority in Eddie's life. But Buck is basically the only person who has also helped Eddie with purely Eddie focused problems. Which is something Eddie would never consciously seek in a partner for himself- all of his girlfriends revolve around how good of a mother figure they are to Chris. But Buck is the one who does both: helping Chris, and helping Eddie.
On the flip side, Buck finds a sense of family in Eddie and Christopher- a sense that he's wanted, dreamed, and needed all of his life. Buck has been abandoned over and over, and it's wrecked his sense of self. He felt for a while that -if all he could be was a good fuck- then that's what he'd have to be. Because at least people could use him if they didn't want or like him. But Eddie and Christopher changed that for him. "My therapist says everyone needs a safe space- that was my apartment..." Buck says, and by S5 he's comfortable hiding out in Eddie's place, walks in, puts his feet up, and promptly falls straight asleep. Chris and Eddie love Buck as he is- they love him when he cooks, they love him when he tells them random facts, they love him when he memorizes the LA zoo lay out. Buck found a place outside of work (Hen "We all had lives before and outside the 118- what does Buck have?) where he isn't used, and he isn't just needed, he's fully and completely wanted.
Chris teases Buck "Buck, you don't even have a couch!" "Buck snores... Loud." The same way Chris teases Eddie "You were a bad cook." And Chris sure hasn't teased any of Eddie's girlfriends like that! Buck doodles a stupid heart "Misunderstanding the assignment" while Chris is doing his homework- And Eddie visibly finds it funny and sweet. Eddie folds his arms and gives Buck a pointed look when Chris asks to "Play video games at [Buck's] apartment" And as a result of Eddie's look, Buck denies Chris carefully. Buck and Eddie chime in "No." at Chim saying "Can't you both be good cop?" To random parents. No pre-thought, no discussion needed, just straight up agreement perfectly in sync with each other - because Buck and Eddie have experience with situations like this...
The fact is- Buck and Eddie have a relationship that truly goes beyond most labels. And regardless of what relationship/s they end up in, it's clear they'll never leave each other. They're in life together, in all the ways that matter most.
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laylawatermelon · 22 days
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70.6 - 7.07 Speculation/ Buddie Meta
I am a writer y'know hehe
So, Buddie is happening.
Now let me explain.
Bi buck always existed, but the problem is that most of his consistent emotional relationship one could argue realistically romantically has been with a man he's known for years.
But has always been bi yes, but he's also been in love with his best friend for a really long time.
Friends to lovers where Y'all at? I see y'all madney truthers
Anyways I understand but what has kind of been bothering me is the fact that Buddie the ship has been abandoned/negated as not an important past of the puzzle for bi buck realization despite the fact that Eddie is physically present throughout his entire relationship/storyline.
I could argue that because they're mirrors to each other (corny soulmate type shit is perfect for network tv) this is the best way to ease people into it.
Buck and Eddie are the two beloved firefighters (and respective sex symbols). They have an appeal for the straight audience for that reason.
Lou already spoiled it but he's only here for a while.
There's been almost blatant explanations and dialogue that leads to the fact that this relationship is going to directly lead into buddie one way or another.
Tommy has from the beginning suspected that Buck (I'm calling him Evan in my head in regards to him and it's so weird 😖) and Eddie have an unusual relationship or that Buck is in love with Eddie at least.
(MY attention? is the biggest example.)
My prediction is that their mirrors of each other, the parallels, and red flags pop up too often now.
I know they're still writing the show and are likely watching audience engagement and ao3 (I'm watching you Tim ik you're here I'm new but ik you got shooters out here) for where to go with the story.
In Eddie's (frankly oddly portrayed) plotline is related to his Catholic guilt and his nonexistent relationship with Marisol (no last name?). As the episode maybe suggests they don't know their partners well enough.
Shame to Eddie because it's been months in universe like come on man. In Buck's it's literally been a few weeks, and most of the time Tommy spent with Eddie and not with him.
I like them as a couple and find them affordable. I can't quite bring myself to ship them or be as enthusiastic as others and that's okay.
I still admire the relationship they have and won't bash others for enjoying it.
Hell they still have Taylor and Buck enjoyers and maybe even Abby (i assume I haven't met any honestly).
The reason why I'm a bit confused on why Buddie isn't being all that embraced as a vital part of the storyline is because in a way it is.
I think it spurred the writers on to lean into it heavily due to the actors chemistry and portrayal of the relationship.
Now I'm not saying he wouldn't be bi regardless, because he's always been written that way.
His interactions with worm guy, a gay married couple, Carlos (who I've been waiting to say this but I can't hold myself any longer is Latino, shorter than him, brown eyes, dark hair - Eddie lite/he had a bit of a type aka cute guys.)
I clocked him flirting with him with his cute fact spilling as a way of affection because I do it to to people I love. (🤗i love my ADHD rep!) When he saw him look at the girl he became more platonic in his interactions. Then there was Eddie.
And Eddie honestly is the biggest part of the puzzle.
Yes he likes Tommy, and I don't deny he likes strong confident (suspiciously Eddie shaped 😂) guys.
He has always been attracted to strong personalities regardless of gender.
I do think he did pursue him and I think because Tommy is gay he recognized the flirting Buck does with both men and women as that, flirting.
Eddie doesn't count cause he has a whole can of worms he gotta figure out himself.
If Buck had consistent scenes with an out queer man on the show he'd have been at least clocked. (Eddie was kind of in the way with Josh and the Dispatch crew/his gaydar pinged a lil around him)
I've been saying that now that he's canonically bisexual and it's a known fact, you can't deny he's quite literally been flirting with his best friend the entire show (as a coparent??? Idk man they both said they skip steps/impatient 🤷🏾‍♀️).
When new fans watch it it's obvious, when older fans recall it it's either enlightening or redefining that relationship regardless.
The red flags that are coming up is Eddie's statement of moving too fast and Buck literally moving to fast with his second date (i assume idk how in world time works it's a tv show 🤷🏾‍♀️) being his sister's wedding.
Realistically I know you only invite people to events like that if you're fully committed to each other for a long term thing.
I'm not saying that he's on his wheel but in a way I'm tilting my head at some similarities of Tommy and his past relationships and Buck's tendencies.
Buck will be Buck.
Tommy knows him as Evan, and calls him such.
Which didn't get me wrong cute or whatever but rubs me there wrong away, because we know he prefers Buck as it's his chosen name for a reason. It's defined him and been contextualized and even accepted by his parents.
I believe in calling people the name they choose to be called and I just don't like when that's ignored.
It also doesn't help that he continues to call him that in an episode called You don't know me (you can Even tie it in to Marisol No last name) that deals with identities and lack of knowledge.
Buck has spent most of his remaining twenties with that identity and has defended it so the casualness of him calling him that unnerves me.
It's meant to close the distance and be portrayed as romantic but it can also be interpreted as him seeing Evan, not Buck when with him.
But I did see a post that changed my perspective on calling a name with love instead can recontextualize the meaning of it and I found that sweet and fitting. In that case I can swing either way about it.
If it does make him more accepting of that side of his identity that's great that he's beginning to heal from a path when his name/personhood was used as a weapon or item.
But, I also still feel a bit iffy that it's not interchangeably used with Buck because his family and everyone he knows calls him that. Even his previous romantic partners did and I didn't mind him being called it but I would like it if both names would be used as that is the new part of him where Evan exists as well.
Also narratively they spent too much time on defining his name and what it means to him and everyone around him to not show the importance of his identity being acknowledged in a new unfamiliar relationship.
(whew i think I'm just mad at the writers or this may just be on purpose who knows 🤷🏾‍♀️)
I'm getting to the meta I promise I'm just finally processing what's been plaguing me about this relationship and i gotta let the monster out
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That would also explain why he doesn't know the ADHD rants that Buck blabs on about.
But then again the episode is called you don't know me and they weren't even friends he just jumped into a relationship.
(ps you can just start dating someone and learn as you go I'm just saying 🤷🏾‍♀️)
The biggest problem with their relationship is that he's in love with his best friend.
He literally only began to open up and flirt when he realized that he wasn't a romantic threat to his family.
(Which trifling Buck! Your man can't get wined and dined?? He deserves love too!/j)
He literally relaxed/his shoulders open up when Tommy assures him that his son still loves and idolizes him and that Eddie still likes him and he's irreplaceable in his life.
After that's secured he begins to make his move and become more flirtatious (cough sexually open cough) to this confident man in his kitchen in the dim lights and glowy atmosphere.
Damn I'd kiss him too 🤷🏾‍♀️ (if I was a guy ofc)
I also didn't like the parallels of Buck being left (which has happened with his female love interests) and then Buck still having to reach out.
I don't think Tommy is bad for Buck, but I'm still not convinced that he's 100% good. But then again he's been here literally a two episodes and barely any screentime.
And the one he does makes it seem like he's interested but not too invested.
(which makes sense and I will elaborate a bit later in the meta speculation)
The Tommy that everyone is talking about exists solely in fan spaces and head canon and that's why I think I can't get into it. The facts of him are plain in the show but in the fan spaces he has a different image.
Which valid, once again he's almost a blank sheet of what we wish a Buck gets and deserves in a love interest but that's what he is as of now. A blank-ish sheet. Kind of like a projection sheet for movies.
Tommy seems like a caring partner and sure of himself. He's shown himself to be funny, considerate, and as unhinged as the rest of the 118 (ah the fruity fire badasses).
Also i wanna point your Buck likes em a lil older sometimes haha
But back on topic, I can see Tommy being like Natalia (which makes sense as that storyline could've been used) In the fact that he sees that the space in his life is occupied and respectfully backs out.
My meta for 7.06 is this.
Tommy helps out somehow. Buck is ecstatic rightfully so.
They kiss dance and are cute.
The family is very welcoming, the 118 is still loving, but then he sees something that affirms his suspicions.
It's a normal scene for us.
Either Buck is taking care of Chris and then talks to Eddie.
He sees the look in Buck's eyes and the fondness there. He looks at Eddie and sees the same on his face.
He notices how they work together and laugh, them at the family and life he's built all around him, and decides he can't be apart of this. There's no space for him.
It feels too real too fast and he'll only end to heartbroken because he's just interested, not invested yet.
So he gracefully bows out and let's him know that he has enough love in his life if he'd just look for it.
(i also found out he used the word interested in the cafe scene where i recognized it as the ana date. Also Buck was wearing a white patterned shirt and i had a heart attack because it wasn't great the last time he wore it 😬)
Then it leads into ghost of a second chance.
(now imma say this i will be posting more specs about the these episodes I'm just on my buddie storyline juice rn)
This is now Buck trying to salvage/figure out what went wrong and maybe try to contact him again.
In the case of Marisol it's safe to assume they break up, the reason why isn't clear.
It could be related to his sisters disapproval of their relationship (as they're supposed to be coming out did the show forget??) or apprehension towards her as they've been raised/watched him grow up.
They know what makes him happy.
For ghost a second chance I didn't have much buddie assumptions but I'm pretty sure that one is more in relation to other members of the cast most likely and maybe Buck trying to salvage his relationship.
7.08-10 isn't complete so who knows🤷🏾‍♀️ how they must switch it up for more drama?
But I will say, we gotta dive into the Eddie of it all.
Y'all thought I forgot about him?
The bi Buck storyline isn't complete without Eddie either romantically or platonically.
In real life their queer storylines were always interchangeable and they're both feeling out the GA and fans reaction.
Buddie not going canon doesn't make sense because realistically it's one of the biggest ships and the most talked about things for the online fans.
It's a good reason many fans started (me included🙋🏾‍♀️) and stay (if the beautiful found family didn't hit it for them).
The way that they were both discussed and Ryan is fine with Buddie still kind of matches his character honestly. Demi Eddie is a head canon and honestly Eddie would only be comfortable with dating a man at this stage of his life if it's someone he loves already aka Buck.
There could be other reasons but as a Buddie warrior truther (as they named it which is still so insane) as his old interviews alluded to the fact that he loves Buck so much he can't really see himself with another guy he just met like that.
He also maybe wanted a easier storyline as he had always been a bit of a heavy character.
For women it's easier as he's raised to do it and it's "natural" or right for him to do so.
His parents said it, the church says it, God says it so it must be right.
He loves commitment, has said he's a nester and constantly yearns for a family unit.
The only family unit he knows of it feels is acceptable due to his upbringing is man, woman, child.
Not that he's homophobic cause duh, HenRen is literally there, but his standards and pressure doesn't even let him fathom it for himself.
It's also likely if the demi part is true, he's highly unlikely to be like Buck and view others sexually and even realize he's able to have a family/relationship with a man.
I suspect no Buddie this season. I actually hope and pray for it.
Because from both a business and story point it's best to keep the will-they won't-they into season 8 to keep viewers engaged/tuning in and not to rush the story and get some really good emotional moments.
I won't lie I miss the angst we got in the other seasons and as a result the show's identity with Eddie has faltered a bit.
I didn't love episode 5 but I didn't hate it. I still enjoy the show and if they feel a bit unusual it's okay.
There were still some great moments in it.
Eddie's character is now happy but as a result he's also somewhat unfamiliar (that speaks to the whump heavy storylines he has) as he seems less mature. You can argue now that he has a stable support system he's able to let loose because he knows his needs will be covered.
That's also a great point and easy way of showing his development.
His Catholic guilt now that it's been introduced will have to be deconstructed as he will have to redefine his life, what he's looking for/allow himself to be and dare to dream of a life not given to him by someone else or pressure.
This season he's only just started to accept things that make him feel good (which for now is Marisol) and be open and honest about it.
I can argue it is a great sign of improvement of his character.
A bit ooc portrayal yes, but the message of looking deeper still applies.
This can apply to Buddie probably leading through the next half of season 7 by being ramped up and then going full speed ahead season 8.
At the time though since they're still writing they may take a hard right turn and keep it platonic (😭).
But what would be inevitable is Eddie's coming out/self discovery arc that isn't tied to the church or sense of duty.
Which yay! More self discovery I love the message of finding yourself lasts throughout your life and due to life's unexpected events you can change to be a better version of yourself all the time.
We got bi buck (which evidently was influenced by Eddie in some way) now let's free Eddie to even if they didn't do it for Buddie (once again😭😭😭).
Now that I've got it mostly off my chest I'm definitely gonna do an analysis of the parallels and the way it's played pt.2 (and more as seasons passed cause Ryan and Oliver 😘 muah 10/10 no notes).
Okay bye.
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szyeon · 1 month
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girl, eddie diaz has the only kind of repression we latinos have, like i KNOW he's about to have the best repressed storyline, ok? he's going to accept buck's bisexuality with open arms and suddenly his own sexuality it's going to start haunting his dreams again and he's going to get scared like Oh My God that's not supposed to happen AGAIN i thought i left this shit behind !! (i know he did NOT spoke about this with frank, it's not like he has to know, right, that's from the past!). pretty sure he can hear his dad's voice in the back of his head, so he's going to take that as signal to start living with marisol, because when he was a teen and started Having Thoughts he got himself an girlfriend and he loved her so much and like everything WAS FINE, he was normal and right he didn't wanted to be a father but u know what ? whatever, he did it! he was an father before chris, he took care of his sistes!!! and now he loves his son and he's so normal!!!! nobody can take that from him
but i need eddie to get drunk in the bachelors party/wedding after a whole night of seeing tommy and buck being happy. he's so proud of buck! he's so happy to see his friend being happy! but also he kinda wants to die because his dad voice it's STILL in the back of his head. and, logically, eddie knows it's from before they talked and tried to mend their relationship, but- it's right there, man, u can't magically fix the broken child inside of you! we are all kids trying to make their parents proud! i need buck to go after him to talk and for eddie to kiss him and then feel guilt bcs he have a girlfriend and buck has a boyfriend and this makes him a bad person for so many reasons...
and i also need eddie to pretend nothing happened when he wakes up the next day and for his catholic guilt to kick his ass and for buck to get mad at him and i need them to fight ok i need eddie diaz sexuality arc to be something that makes sense because i know that for us, latinos, it's not always easy to deal with this type of thing and eddie has dealt with the repression of his feelings, but this is different and also the same, because it all goes back to how he was raised and how our parents fuck us up in ways we can't even begin to know.
(and also, i need for him to have his happy ending despite it all)
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warrion2 · 1 year
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Okay so hear me out.
We all know about the lawsuit. And we know the grocery store event right? Most of the fandom agrees that what Eddie said would likely stick with Buck a bit because it was never acknowledged. Eddie never said that he didn’t think that.
Now look at the kitchen scene.
“Did you ever think, you were throwing your punches at the wrong guy?”
“You’re making about you? Again?”
This stuck with me. For someone like Buck, those words, like the grocery store ones, would hurt. So do I think these words stuck, at least a bit? Absolutely.
If you also look to when Buck is telling 118 about Daniel, it’s clear what he thinks.
“Have you talked to them about it?”
“What am I gonna say? I’m sorry about your dead son but can we talk about me for a minute?”
“He wasn’t their only son. You matter too Buck.”
“Sure. Just- just not to them.”
He said sure like it was a joke. Like him mattering was a joke.
He didn’t want to talk to his parents because he didn’t think that his pain was worthy enough of mentioning because his parents were in pain too.
He doesn’t feel like his problems are worth “whining” about.
I’m not saying all of Bucks self worth issues came from the grocery store fight and I am definitely not saying that Buck wasn’t in the wrong. But hearing those words?
“You’re exhausting. Everything is about you. You don’t see us whining about it. We all suck it up, why can’t you.”
It confirmed his darkest thoughts.
Since he was a child, love came with conditions. It always seemed like people left him because of it. He wasn’t enough. He was to much. He was to little.
So imagine hearing that? It was beyond a simple “I’m mad at you.”
Eddie just vocalized everything Buck has thought about himself.
So I definitely thinks he holds onto that. Holds onto the
“You make everything about you.”
He’s afraid to let people be there for him because he never felt like anyone truly was there for him in his life.
And Eddie has gotten better, more vocal about his feelings. But the grocery store happened years ago and he might not even remember it.
So Buck will always be there for Eddie and Chris. But he’s afraid to let them be there for him because he thinks their love has conditions. That they care for him on a superficial level, but once it comes down to it? He would exhaust them with how he feels so he just, doesn’t.
The 118 obviously love Buck. But he also believes that love is superficial too. That he’s a friend but not family because they already have family. He’s seeing everyone have all he wanted but he also thinks it’s his own fault he can’t have it.
I just wanted to rant because Evan Buckley is a great character.
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monstatrbl · 1 year
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Okay so I said I would pen some of my 911 thoughts so here we are with my main thought.
I think we’re at a pinnacle point in the show where an executive decision needs to be made (if it hasn’t been already) in the writer’s room about whether or not Buddie will go canon. I do not think they can continue to make the show without making a concrete decision. The main reason being where Buck and Eddie are in their character development. Seasons 1-5 have been about the past for them; about confronting and working through their past traumas. Season 6a on the other hand has clearly established that we are now looking towards the future. For Buck, he’s at a point where he’s starting to question his life and what it means to be happy. It means examining his current life and looking at what he would need/want in the future to attain what he eventually deems as happiness. Clearly a big part of that happiness will be being a father; they wouldn't be doing the sperm donor storyline if it wasn’t.
For Eddie, he’s at a point where he’s gone/going to therapy and is in a good place. He’s learning to live for himself, especially now that he has more time to himself as his kid is growing up and seeking independence. With this time to himself will come with questioning what he wants out of life; what’s his happiness.
Clearly both of these characters’ trajectories are going towards the future. With the way the writing has been going, it would be very easy for the writers to make these two characters’ desires of the future be interconnected. I personally think that’s the way to go with the story, considering, whether intentionally or not, they’ve already set the groundwork. However, if they really do not want to go in this direction, I think now would be the time to decide. While a solid argument can be made that they queer baited their audience for 4 whole seasons if they choose to go with the “band of brothers” route, I think with some directional and writing changes, they still could establish Buck and Eddie as ride or die friends. But, imo, they truly cannot continue with not making a decision and stringing along the fans knowing that they’re intentionally baiting them by giving them hope that Buddie will happen. It just doesn’t do justice to the characters, the show, or their audience.
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This is absolutely my favorite analysis so far and it helps that I've already established Buck and Eddie's association with physical affection. Now I can build off of those, including Chris this time. :)
HERE WE GO! (So excited.)
EDDIE : As previously discussed, Eddie has strong emotional ties to physicality, so much so that I would label it as a love language for him.
Some might assume that he manifested it thanks to his son, seeing as children can bring out a vulnerability and nurturing nature in adults. However, I don't think that is the case for him.
As discussed, Eddie has a physically affectionate family. He was likely raised with it, seeing how easily he responds to his tia and abuela's touch.
When examining Christopher's birth, Eddie shows that he is nervous and unsure how to love his new child. He turns down cutting the umbilical cord at first (a literal physical, symbolic gesture for parents), but agrees with some encouragement. After that, he gets comfortable enough to interact with him, enjoying the connection.
The problem is, he only spends a week with the new born before he's back in Afghanistan.
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By the end of his tour, Christopher has been diagnosed with CP, Eddie is struggling to keep up financially, and nearly all of his emotional ties to Shannon and Chris have degraded greatly.
It's the way he holds Chris away from him at first, then struggles to provide comfort with his touch. It's a serious mental stressor not being able to provide for his family in so many ways. And his pre-therapy approaches (anger or running away) are only making things worse.
He realizes this as he's under a hail of gunfire and bleeding out in The Valley of Death. It's why he holds his photo of Chris and his necklace so tightly in what he thought were his final moments.
They weren't.
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He goes home, and there is a distinct shift in his approach to Christopher. He's trying. He's smiling and happy to be in his son's space. But his mother, with his parents' insistent coddling, steamrolls the moment and Eddie feels obligated to follow her orders.
He doubts himself. Doubts his ability to be a good parent. Shannon understands because they're doing the same to her, but their own issues and broken relationship prevents them from finding any comfort in each other.
Eventually, Shannon leaves, Eddie picks up additional jobs, and his parents sit him down to try and guilt him into giving them his son. When anger doesn't work, he runs from them, finding Chris outside.
And there's something beautiful in the way the distance closes between them as the scene progresses.
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It's this conversation and this hug that finally, finally cements a relationship between them. It gives Eddie the courage to break away from his parents. He has something to build up from there, in his own space, on his own terms. And he does.
It takes a bit of self-correction (as manually helping would show his love) but he's determined to allow Chris to grow and do things on his own, unlike his parents who wanted to do everything for him.
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He sees Chris fumbling with his sock and moves to help him, but stops. Instead, he lets him take his time, do it for himself, and they both share a sense of accomplishment by the end. Eddie reinforces this idea when his abuela tells him to help Chris as he walks. As much as he loves and respects her, he tells her he can do it.
(A cute sidenote : Eddie giving Chris that extra time might have influenced his quick "Dad's running a little behind" while dropping him off. It puts the focus on him, rather than Chris thinking he made his dad late.)
At last, Eddie is surrounded by family (both biological and found) that wants to support him. In this freedom, he is able to express all the love he has for Chris and he makes sure to show it every chance he gets.
(Y'all, I told you he was affectionate.)
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Christopher is shown to pick up his father's verbal and physical habits, using them in practice to support the people around him.
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But Chris isn't the only one Eddie influenced.
BUCK : Someone who waits for some form of permission before engaging in physical affection and does not tend to ask for any himself.
We know Buck's family history and the neglect he suffered from his parents. We know Maddie did all she could, but she was still only one person (one kid) with her own problems and her own desire to find someone to love her like her parents didn't.
Buck's solitude followed him into adulthood, made itself an issue with a sex addiction, and clings to him even as he settles into what he hopes is a forever-family.
Insert Eddie and Christopher Diaz.
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The first time Buck meets Christopher, Eddie is reunited with him after a disastrous earthquake. The overwhelming love is apparent in Eddie's physical responses, all visible from Buck's Jeep.
A short time later, Chris is permitted to accompany the 118 on their shift which means Buck and the rest of the team get to participate in these acts of physical affection.
Approximately one year passes between that day and Buck taking Chris to the pier. By the "He's hanging out with his Buck today!" comment from Eddie beforehand, there is clearly a relationship there but it's likely surface level as Buck then asks, "So, what do you like to do for fun?"
And they do have fun. With someone as tactile as Eddie for a father, Buck pushes himself to be somewhat more affectionate and it seems simple, almost, since he genuinely enjoys Chris' company. But there is still a barrier.
(He's stretching that shirt so much. Just hold him by the waist, omfg.)
Like half the city, that barrier gets knocked down by a giant tsunami. And it sparks a major shift in their relationship.
Not only does this experience deepen their connection with shared trauma, it's the first time Buck takes comfort for himself instead of just hoping someone gives it to him.
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Like I discussed, Buck is not one to ask for comfort, and he doesn't exactly do that here. In this arc, Buck is absolutely giving as much comfort as he can in this horrible situation, but, at the same time, he's allowing the contact to let himself relax, too. Because He. Is. Also. In. Danger.
He is scared. He is terrified. And he's gonna physically lock himself around Chris as much as he can because it makes him feel better, too.
For instance, when they are first safely on top of the firetruck, they're not moving or sliding, yet Buck still reaches out to cling to Chris' shirt just in case. As they find their seats, Buck presses himself as closely as he can, wrapping his arms around him and keeping their heads close.
And it's not like it's to conserve body heat or anything, seeing as they're under the summer California sun. They're not cold. Chris is smiling, proud that his surfing lessons (thank you, Eddie) came to fruition and helped keep him afloat. So he's not in any severe mental distress at the moment.
Yet, Buck melts himself against the boy with a sigh of relief. Chris is not the one who needed that extra bit of contact. Buck is. And he takes it, seeing as they're already there.
After that? Buck feels comforted enough to let go and survey the area around them, still staying within arms reach. But then he has to leave as more and more people appear in the floodwaters, Buck knowing he can save them.
That bit of space stays, even as he continues to touch and poke Chris, until Buck needs to distract him with another round of I-Spy. Then, Buck acts as a wall to block Chris from seeing anything that might be floating in the waters.
It's only when the people right in front of them fall from the truck that Buck leaps from Chris' side and that's all it took to be separated again, Buck jumping in after him.
That failure, in Buck's mind, reels him back and when Chris and Eddie show up to his front door after everything, he can barely put his hand down to return Chris' nudge/hug. He doesn't feel worthy.
It's Eddie's words and touch that ground him and remind him he did everything he could. That neither of them think less of him, only more.
With that, their relationship continues to grow.
Buck is his friend. A safe space he can run to when he's upset with his father. Someone who promises that he will stay by his side when it feels like everyone else is disappearing.
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And when he makes good on that promise, going to him after Eddie is shot, something absolutely amazing happens.
Buck ASKS for physical comfort. It's subtle and non-verbal, but when he goes to Chris to explain what's happened, he starts at a distance.
It's the same as the tsunami : Buck feels like he's failed the Diaz family by letting Eddie get hurt (maybe more than hurt, Eddie's still in surgery) and doesn't feel worthy to take comfort.
As he's fighting to stay hopeful for Chris, he gets the text that Eddie pulled through and Buck breaks. The relief is too much and it floods in with every other emotion he's been repressing until then. He bursts into tears, and leans.
Not just anywhere. He leans towards Chris.
And Christopher, taking after his father, recognizes exactly what Buck needs. What he can't put into words.
He drapes his arm over Buck and hugs him. And there's no surprise from Buck because, again, it's what he asked for. Then, Buck takes the opportunity to seek more, while also providing some comfort in return, by pressing his hand to Chris' knee.
After a major milestone like that, it's no wonder Buck is shown to be just as affectionate as Eddie the next time they interact, directly mirroring the rush forward and swooping hug they pull Christopher into.
Buck, with all their shared experiences, developed a physically affectionate relationship with Chris. Something he doesn't share with anyone else on the show. (Yet. I'm hopeful.)
And to prove it, examine how he reacts to Christopher's distress call in 5x13.
When Buck knows someone he loves is in trouble, he is 100% the person to run in and help them at any cost.
3x14 : Maddie is held hostage at the dispatch center and Buck races after her in his Jeep, Athena pulling him over for it. 4x01 : Bobby is still in the bus as it explodes, so Buck rushes back in. 5x06 : Buck hears a gunshot after being separated from Eddie and sprints outside regardless of his personal safety just to be by his side.
You know how all of these situations end? Not with physical comfort from him.
Maddie reunites with Chim and Buck purposefully keep his distance because "she already has everything she needs." Buck walks through the smoke and ash of the bus to see Bobby and the passenger are alright, so he stops and takes a breath. Buck halts feet away from Eddie, who is working to keep a heart alive, then switches to following orders.
Basically, he never approaches them because they don't actively, physically need or ask for him. That is a boundary he has when it comes to physical affection. (Not that it's a warranted boundary, it's just how his mind perceives his role in the situation.)
This does not apply to Chris.
Christopher calls Buck with the intent to help Eddie, his father. It would make perfect sense for Buck to move past him and go directly to Eddie's bedroom, but he doesn't.
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Instead, Buck recognizes how frightened and closed off the boy is and essentially breaks his own rule of explicit consent. He moves in, grabbing Chris' shoulders, his neck, shifting his hands gently to convey comfort. He is in his space, assuring him he is going to get his dad out before he even approaches Eddie's door.
That is how far their relationship has come and that is how much they mean to each other. Buck loves Chris enough to break his own rules and Chris trusts Buck enough to know he would never take advantage of that unspoken consent.
And we know it's still a strong rule for Buck because physicality-is-my-love-language Eddie Diaz is on the other side of that door. And when Buck breaks it down to get to him, he never tries to physically touch him. Eddie is a sweaty mess, suffering the aftershock of a violent breakdown, bloody knuckles wrapped around a baseball bat and Buck never backs away once, even if he doesn't completely move in.
Because he loves Eddie. And while Eddie isn't giving him consent to come closer, Buck won't give up the ground he's claimed. Being near him is enough.
TL: DR : The influence Chris has had in both of their lives and the way it helped shape their current relations with physicality is incredible. With seasons 4 and 5 really showing how far Buck has come, it could lead to him breaking those same boundaries down with other characters in the future.
Eddie will continue to grow and maybe adapt more forms of love languages into his life (*cough* cooking *cough*) just like Buck is learning to expand physical affection within his.
And Chris will continue to learn from both of them, maybe finding some of his own along the way.
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diazpatcher · 2 years
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I've been thinking about the fact that in the helicopter crash Eddie was the only one who could turn it off, and he did it despite his trauma.
And then again. In the blimp episode he was the one who got in there and turned it off and saved the Captains.
somehting about Eddie saving people from helicopter crashes and something about him learning to forgive himself.
"I pulled them out, but I didn't save them."
but now he did
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oneawkwardcookie · 2 years
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The curse of making edits for a show that's airing is that you'll always look back on them and think you could redo them SO much better with more recent scenes
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matan4il · 1 year
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Buddie 613 meta
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We now know that the man who risked himself to get Buck out of the line of fire during the shooting arc is Jeshan, which means ‘clear’ (if you’re interested, you can find more name meanings for 911 characters here). So let me just giggle for a second about the fact that 911 had once again reunited Buddie with a character who can be referred to as Captain Clear Me(h)ta. Coincidence? IDK. But I have to admit, it kinda made me reflect back and feel nostalgic. When I first started watching the show, I had no intention of writing meta for 911, but after going ballistic when 309 aired, I knew I would HAVE to use the s3 hiatus to write down all my thoughts about everything Buddie related so far. That’s what I did, I wrote and shared my baby, my first round of Buddie meta. That’s where it was supposed to end, but then people asked and encouraged me to write meta for the eps in 3b as they would air, too. I figured I could try, and that’s how my Buddie weekly meta posts were born. At the time, there was no one else writing proper weekly meta (I don’t mean a summary/review of the ep, or meta posts that stand on their own, but proper analysis on Buck, Eddie and those who matter to them, organized and serialized for each ep as it aired). And now, I’ve been writing them for almost 3.5 seasons. And I feel like they’ve inspired others to do the same. TBH, I can’t actually remember seeing weekly meta posts in other fandoms (maybe they exist and I just haven’t come across them, IDK). So I got all emotional, thinking about how these posts may be love notes to Buddie and the show, but most of all they’re a love letter to the wonderful people who have been supportive and encouraging, who’ve been reblogging the posts, who’ve been commenting on them and telling me that what I do makes a difference for them. Thank you so much, these posts wouldn’t exist without you. You have a much bigger impact on the fandom than you might have realized! So if Captain Mehta is indeed a nod to the meta, it’s a loving, appreciative nod that belongs to all of you. ~~
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When Chim shows up to escort Hen to work, he ends up sitting down for a talk with Denny instead, and I really enjoyed this scene, it was lovely, but it also once again emphasized the difference between the firefam kids’ relationship with their parents’ colleagues and the r/s Buck and Chris have. Chim talks to Hen’s son when he happens to come across the kid, but he only sits down for a proper conversation because Denny implies Hen and Karen are up to something intimate, and Chim shouldn’t interrupt them just yet. Consider how different that is to how Buck intentionally looks to spend time with and dedicated to Chris! And then Chim is impressed by how smart Denny is. It’s cute, but it also reveals just how little they interact that this comes as a surprise to Chim. It’s so different to the intimate familiarity of a parent, which is what we know Buck has with Chris (and that Chris has with Buck, which can even be seen in the kid’s teasing, for example regarding the snoring in 414). ~~
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You might have seen that, when the promo came out, I momentarily lost my sanity and posted this. I just couldn’t get over the fact that they actually had Eddie correct the chief on the duration of Buck’s death. It was such a spouse thing to do. It was a declaration about the anguish that each single second represented, when Eddie couldn’t breathe because Buck wasn’t. It was a confession of sorts, on how Eddie felt as he desperately NEEDED his husband to live (I’m not even joking when I ascribe him this title, Eddie said with his whole chest, “THAT IS MY IDIOT HUSBAND THAT I HAD TO WATCH DIE FOR THREE MINUTES AND SEVENTEEN SECONDS AND I WILL NEVER FORGET ANY OF THOSE SECONDS, NOR LET ANYONE ELSE DO THAT”). It was a glimpse into how time must have moved differently for him as each second etched itself forever into Eddie’s mind. And yes, it’s a clear parallel to 413, when we witness time slowing down for Eddie. And I mentioned in my post that in both scenarios, Buck is just out of his reach, so close, but simply not close enough. In one case, this forced Eddie to believe he must now accept his own death. In the other, he couldn’t accept the possibility that Buck would die, so he just fought harder, and if he couldn’t save Buck with one course of action, he tried another, Eddie just had to keep going, 'coz the idea of those three minutes and seventeen seconds turning into an eternity? Unacceptable. ~~
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But notice in my unhinged post from that day, I used the word ‘counting.’ Eddie counted the seconds, and this is revealed to us at a poker game where Buck is counting the cards. I already noticed that when we saw the promo, but this connection was reinforced in the ep itself when Chief Williams vocalized what Buck was doing. The thing about counting is that it’s reserved for what matters, what’s crucial. Buck is counting the cards in order to win, and he wants to win because it matters to Eddie. Buck wasn’t the one who initiated the search for a poker game where he could use his newfound skills, Eddie was the one to take that initiative. And he could bring Buck along without telling him where they’re going (I would normally scream for a whole separate paragraph just about Eddie telling Buck to dress nice and there being no need for any further explanation or prompting, but we were so well fed, I’ll have to scream about it into my fist for just one sentence) 'coz Eddie was so sure his husband would go along with whatever crazy scheme he’d come up with. And he was right, even though Buck didn’t think it would end well, he still went along with what his husband wanted. Please let me reiterate: Buck’s counting cards because Eddie is so important to him, and Eddie was counting the seconds because Buck’s his vital sign. ~~
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Another thing to keep in mind about the poker game is that the only other time we’ve seen Buck playing poker was in 312. In that ep, Eddie was off to meet Christopher’s school teachers (leading to his eventual lackluster r/s with Ana), so having a free evening, Buck spends it with Maddie, Chim and Josh (and is told he unequivocally sucks at Poker). Jokes were made about setting Josh and Buck up, and it was implied whatever Buck’s sexuality was, that was not the reason why Maddie abstained from making the match. What I find interesting is seeing how far our boys have come! In that ep, they were operating separately, and it led them down the wrong paths.
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In this ep, Buck and Eddie were inseparable both as a couple (even sharing the winnings from Buck’s new talent, because what don’t these two share? And I was particularly chewing glass when Chief Williams asks Buck how he wanted HIS winnings, but instead of answering her, he looks at his husband. THEY ARE SO FREAKING MARRIED), and as a family unit with Chris (which is maybe a good moment to point out that all of the romantic couples were paired off in 613, and so were Buddie! Now, one could argue that Buck and Eddie were paired off because, well... who else is left for them to hang out with? But 312 is a reminder that when the show wants to, it can push the main cast and minor characters into the same orbit, so it still didn’t HAVE to pair Buck and Eddie off here. It chose to. On top of that, by showing them with Chris as well, 911 reminded us they’re far more bonded than just two best bros hanging out together ‘coz none of their other friends are single). In short, during 312, Buck lost and Eddie was about to be lost on a detour in his romantic journey. In 613, they ARE a family, they work as one throughout the ep, not just in parts of it, and they’re both winning. ~~
Something that gets to me is that when I first shared the BTS pic of Buddie at the poker game, it was clear that Eddie was just bursting with self confidence. He looked like he would be the star of that game. But when we got the promo, we discovered that it was actually going to be Buck who would shine that night. So what makes me slightly froth at the mouth is that all of that sexy confidence we picked up on in the photo? It was real. We weren’t wrong. It just wasn’t confidence that Eddie had in himself, it’s confidence he has in Buck. All of his swagger? Is a reflection of how much he believes and enjoys seeing his husband be a star. I am gonna need 3-6 working weeks at least to recover from knowing this. ~~
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Speaking of things that destroyed me forever, everything about the Buckley-Diaz family in this ep falls into that category. I mean, not only did we once again have incredibly domestic scenes, we had one that was very reminiscent of the lasagna one in 601 (Eddie with Chris at the table, Buck fussing around them only to join in once he brings along something to be consumed), reinforcing that this is THEIR NORM, we also had Eddie and Chris being so cute and supportive when it comes to Buck’s new ability (Chris calls him a superhero, Eddie goes along with it, and when Buck’s upset he didn’t get a better superpower, naming some he would have liked to have, Eddie comforts him by saying those other options sound horrible). 
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And then to top it all off, we had Buck and Chris cooking together. Bobby’s been explicitly acknowledged as basically being Buck’s dad by both of them, and we know Bobby’s been teaching Buck how to cook. Now we get Buck doing the same with Chris, clearly marking them as father and son, especially since this is done with just the two of them, this special time that’s allocated just to their bond together. Eddie is not needed as a middleman. I know that this isn’t news, but every single time the show reinforces this truth, that Buck is Christopher’s other dad, that their bond is that deep, I gain 10 years, so I have to mention it. ~~
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For 613, I made my weekly gifset about Buck and answers, but I’d actually like to elaborate on what you see there. In 602, at the happiness center call, we see Buck looking to Lev in search for his own answers on what his happiness looks like. When he still can’t find any, he turns to Hen, because she always has them. Along this season, that’s been his theme. He’s trying to figure out what he wants in order to be happy, which is connected to the couch theme we’ve all been screaming about since 601 (and especially after he fell asleep on Eddie’s in 612). In 613, Buck suddenly finds that he’s the guy with the answers and he likes it. But has he really got them? Buck says these words to Eddie and Chris, and in addition to that, while he utters them, he’s literally captured in the same frame together with Eddie. But it’s also essential that we heard why Chris can’t just be given the answers. It’s in order to learn, Eddie tells him. That’s exactly what Buck has to do, he has to find his answers in order to learn from the search process. He’s not just there yet, but the framing of the whole scene coupled with the ongoing couch theme is very loud. ~~
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What gets me maybe most of all in a whole ep of REALLY GOOD BUDDIE CONTENT, is the way the whole thing wraps up. The storyline on Buck’s new abilities doesn’t end with any commentary on those or on his recovery process. His last scene in this ep is the one with Chris. It follows directly the one with Hen and Karen, a scene which reminds us that we’re never surprised at either woman spending solo time with and caring about Denny, even though neither is biologically related to him, because they ARE BOTH his parents. In the same way, it’s only natural that we see Buck spending alone time with Chris, without Eddie around. It is so meaningful that the last shot of Buck in this ep is not about his story line at all, and neither his abilities, nor having died for several minutes is the point. Instead, the last, and therefore most significant shot of Buck in this very Buddie domestic ep, is him smiling at their son. I feel like that says everything about his trajectory.
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theshippirate22 · 6 months
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I have a theory
listen up bitches (gender neutral) (affectionate) i’ve been cooking this for an incredibly long time and i’m very very excited to share it but it is gonna be long so i’m putting it under a cut
my theory is that there has been a new set of archetypes created by popular m/m media either in canon or coding and i would love if it was more widely recognized by a distinct name so here we go:
I present to you: The Mirrorball x Running Up That Hill Boyfriends™️ Theory
i need to preface this by saying that i am absolutely not an english major or expert but i have done so much analysis that i’m 98% positive i’m on to something here
so usually mlm ships- at least in my experience- get boiled down into typical Grumpy x Sunshine, Golden Retriever x Black Cat, or like. Babygirl x Badass. and i hate that because those are like really watered down hetero romance stereotypes and i think queer people deserve to get our own archetypes instead of trying to force queer characters into prepaid boxes but that’s a story for another day so:
basically, all content with widely accepted mlm ships (even if they are more in coding than in canon) has this pattern with the ship that fits into Mirrorball x Running Up That Hill
(name pending- open to suggestions)
Boyfriend No.1 of course is the epitome of Mirrorball by Taylor Swift (i know, i know. bear with me here). He’s constantly trying to prove himself and his worth and usually he’s driven to hide or overcome 1-3 specific and intense insecurities/character flaws. He often has innate loyalty to a system or person who has repeatedly abused/neglected/abandoned him and thinks that this treatment is a result of his own character rather than a reflection of the abuser. In relation to the plot and audience, this is the “more dangerous” of the two because he’s so desperate to hold onto the status quo that he’ll often act in a way that makes things more difficult for himself, often by leaving Boyfriend No. 2, sacrificing himself, or doing “the wrong thing.” He also commonly has an older male figure that is breathing down his neck constantly, haunting his perceived inadequacies, and fueling his self-loathing. He’s constantly mischaracterized because he’s either boiled down to “the silly one” or a visage of his trauma and the people that relate to love these characters are usually extremely sad people. Usually this character is also the “mean girl” of the couple.
Examples of the Mirrorball boyfriend: Dean Winchester, Aziraphale, Stede Bonnet, Lucius Spriggs, Sherlock Holmes, Eddie Munson, Mike Wheeler, Prince Rupert, etc.
Boyfriend No. 2 then, is the Running Up That Hill Boyfriend, based of course, on the song by the same name by the perfect Kate Bush. He’s the one that’s seen The Horrors™️ and gained a layer of cynicism that Mirrorball doesn’t have. He was once loyal to something that used/hurt him but he rejected it and used his newfound freedom to restructure his entire personality and reach his much higher potential. Usually, he has passed so far from having a few insecurities to perceiving himself as utterly worthless and unlovable but he’s so convinced that it doesn’t even haunt him, he just goes with it and usually comes off looking overly-confident or cocky. This is The Bitch (affectionate)™️. There’s probably a scene of him covered in blood. This is The Girls’ favorite blorbo and ultimate whump. He tends to be really good with kids and he’s the kind of character that would and often has to CLAW a life out for himself by his fingernails.
Examples of the Running Up That Hill Boyfriend: Castiel, Crowley, Ed Teach, Black Pete, John Watson, Steve Harrington, Will Byers, Prince Amir, etc.
unfortunately i haven’t seen a lot of popular queer stuff so if you can think of other mlm or mlm shaped characters that fit into these archetypes please please please tell me
i’m specifically curious about:
-Hannigram (Hannibal)
-Buddy (911) (@criminally-obsessed if you would mind weighing in but obviously no pressure)
-Lokius (Loki) (@henderdads same thing)
-Any of the marauders but specifically WolfStar
-Stucky (MCU)
-RWRB (i’m so sorry i don’t remember the guys’ names)
-Nick and Charlie (Heartstopper)
-What We Do In the Shadows has one I think?
-literally anyone else please and thank you 🙏🙏 love you all
if you want like explicit examples of each piece for a character lmk for sure because i could talk about this all day long
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Something I haven't seen enough discussion around is Eddie's catholic guilt in relation to 'the nuclear family'. So many people have pointed out the potential for gay repression due to his catholic upbringing- but what about his obsession with finding a mum replacement for Shannon??
So Ana is his first choice after Shannon dies and Eddie explicitly admits that he chose her because Chris liked her as a mother figure. Marisol he did pick based on her being pretty, but then he ends up literally staring off into the distance and remembering sex with Shannon- so it's clear that there really isn't anything other than 'prettyness' that's making Eddie stay with her. Then he sees a woman that looks like Shannon, and instantly gets unhealthily attached to her, in the hopes that he can re-create what he had with his dead wife.
I'd make a guess that Eddie has a LOT of guilt about the relationship he had with Shannon. I'd guess that since they got pregnant really young, out of wedlock, and proceeded to get married in order to 'rectify the mistake of daring to have a child in this way' (becuase you KNOW the church and their community pressured them to Wed, it's literally something Eddie says). But I think Eddie probably doesn't want to think about the problems that come with them being together so young. They fought, they bailed on each other, they didn't communicate well- but those behaviours are the RESULT of other issues. Issues like 'we literally were not fully realized people when Shannon got pregnant', 'we didn't really know who we were' 'we didn't know what we wanted in life'.
Everything about Eddie says that Christopher is the best thing in his life, and I 100% think that's true. I think Eddie loves Chris more than anything. But because of that, I feel like Eddie doesn't want to attach ANYTHING negative to Chris. And it's like, Eddie, you're allowed to acknowledge that Chris -who you love dearly- was the result of a rocky relationship. Chris is allowed to be an unintentional pregnancy. It's okay if Chris wasn't planned, that doesn't make Chris bad, and it doesn't make either Eddie or Shannon bad.
But I think Eddie is a guy who really REALLY wants to be in control. He wears a mask around most of the time pretending to be in control of his life and emotions. Consider in the lawsuit arc, when Eddie yells at Buck in the grocery he says "We all have our own problems, but you don't see us whining about it. Somehow we just manage to suck it up." Like ??? Eddie I'm so sorry, you are the mayor of repression. Like he acts as if he can control things because the reality that he can't control things is literally terrifying to him.
But it's also something religion can kind of influence you to think!!! There's a strong theme in Catholic circles that 'what you think leads to what you do'. The idea being 'sinful thoughts leading to sinful behaviour'. And if you look at Eddie's character in regards to that..... Yeah, things kinda look screwed up for him. Because he's been through a lot; being a kid with absent father, looking after his sisters, having a disabled child at a young age, living in warzones, a rocky relationship with his wife, working 3 jobs while being a single dad, being shot by a sniper - this dude is TRUAMATIZED. And he probably has TONS of really bad thoughts all the time, 'what if I died right now, what if I kill people right now, what if this person I'm trying to save dies, if I grab the gun from this nutcase I could kill him and that would save everyone a lot of hassle' type thoughts.
And the fact that he represses all of this, and refuses to bring it up, and insists that he can just move on from all his trauma no problem- it all culminates in this arc he's going through with cheating and hurting the people around him.
Which is funny- because it seems that Eddie is constantly striving to achieve the perfect family, to get back to the idea of the nuclear family with a mum, dad, and kid.... But all he's ended up doing is hurting everyone around him. Hurting Marisol by cheating, hurting Chris by forcing mother figures into his life instead of it happening naturally, and hurting himself by refusing to actually fix the root cause of problems.
By trying so hard to obtain a 'perfect family' he's destroying the family he already has. Because in Eddie's own words "The 118 is the family we chose." And he's messing that up.
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The Miami Vice references previewed for 706 are WILD. I’m old so I used to watch MV as a kid. I don’t remember much bc I was young so most of it was over my head at the time. But. The 706 costuming for Buck and Eddie plus the loud naming of their characters as Tubbs and Crocket respectively (AND the confusion between them about who’s who) struck me as more than passing references so I did some digging.
Turns out there was an MV ep (1x22) titled Evan!!! The ep dealt directly with a queer character named Evan, an arms dealer named Guzman [this pinged my meta about the armoire so the arms dealer is a self-serving honorable mention here on my part], one of the main characters named Crocket (aka 911 Eddie) alluding to Catholic guilt, a queer-coded conflict of interest in Evan’s case that Crocket (again, this is Eddie!) refused to name/talk about. I could go on with the Buddie parallels but I won’t; I need a minute to recover from just those parts of the equation!!
Just. Read the queer analysis of the MV ep linked below and leave me to my smelling salts 😵
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captain-hen · 2 months
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as a fellow eddie girlie i agree sm with all ur opinions on buddie and fandom like its one of the main reasons i dont interact much with 911 posts anymore bc its just getting a bit exhausting to see people strip away all the character traits that made eddie my favourite to begin with 💔
yeah :/ i think it didn't always used to be so bad; i remember around the s4-s5, there was a lot of excellent meta and analysis and...general appreciation for the characters, eddie included, outside of shipping. but...idk. fandom's always had a problem with relegating eddie to being just buck's love interest, but it's never been this bad imo. it just sucks and there's nothing that can be done unfortunately :/
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laylawatermelon · 1 day
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I have thoughts about this ep...
(It's not good... But not bad)
911's writing of this storyline seems to be teetering in the wrong direction and it may cause a disconnect with some viewers.
Hi! I literally took a nap and woke up with an essay 🙃.
But let's get to the good stuff.
This season has been phenomenal. The acting and writing has all been consistent with the original past 4 seasons. (Season 5 and 6 were good just had a different tone)
This has been due to the show runner returning.
Now that we've gotten all the facts out of the way here's my opinion.
I'll be honest, the twin/lookalike story that came up is causing me to pull away and not in a good way.
If I objectively look at it as a fan this cones out of left field and may intrigue a set of fans. Those fans are likely in the higher age range. (Nothing wrong with it but just an observation)
(i keep up with updates online so it didn't bother me that much)
But for me as I was watching it and the scene came up and then The Grey's Anatomy came up I don't know why but a flash pinged in my brain of this feels like a Telenovela/Soap Opera.
And it is in fact a storyline commonly used or mentioned of the long lost twin or the doppelganger who's back to destroy, seduce, etc. to shake up the main characters life.
I will say that what 9-1-1 has been doing is a good job between toeing the line between supernatural and realistic.
This is leaning a bit to close to the former and can lose some people.
(i will say that this storyline isn't hitting like it usually does the others, even if I wasn't an buddie fan. Hell as an Eddie fan I'm still confused)
The tone of the show this season has been lighter so of course the storylines do reflect that.
My only gripe is what makes 9-1-1 compelling in the first place is the odd fact that the characters don't die and they're realistic (enough) in their cases and drama.
They're gripping enough that they can use these cliches to grip the audience backed by stellar performances and direction.
I just don't like the soap opera-y feeling I got from the trope. (Personal preference what can I say)
Now the next episode will probably expand on this storyline and will cause the conclusion to be touching and heartfelt.
I'm just a bit sour about the lead up to it because it's like oh this woman who looks exactly like my deceased/missing partner appears in the same vicinity as me (despite living in a very big very populated state) so I must get to know her better. I end up throwing away my morals and then something bizarre happens and then something else happens and I find out she's insert - (illusion/twin/stalker/literally anything out of pocket you can think of).
The audience swoons because of course she is (bad/evil/plotting etc).
It's not gripping me.
Emotionally however I'm intrigued how this will eventually effect Christopher as it he sees her he's screwed for life.
In addition to his dad talking to her in the first place, therefore unintentionally enforcing his women all leave/slight lack of respect for their feelings as they're replaceable (she would literally replace his mom in name and face) or disposable (Marisol as the woman left behind).
Yes Eddie's happy but he's also being more reckless than he usually is.
He's always been aiming to find what they had but his actions have implications.
(imma put on my buddie hat for a second this is all/j)
Like how he leaves his son with his dad and goes on a date with another person constantly. 😤 Rude
(no lie they are good coparents though even if they are platonic. They work better than some romantic straight families on tv)
Back to analysis mode though, this action has dangerous implications on both how relationship with Christopher and how he can harm him and eventually how their relationship can decline because of this.
It's not just the disloyalty to both his current partner and son but the example he'll be setting.
Chris probably may end up listening to Buck more as a result because he wouldn't/hasn't hurt him in the way his father currently does with this situation. For relationship advice and such.
Yes it's good drama (in an emotional/analytical sense) I'm just sulky about the telenovela feel of it don't mind me.
I'm positive their performances will make it lean more towards the procedural drama movie feel the show is known for.
Hell this had to happen some day right? The soap operafication of 9-1-1.
Hope is a beautiful ride at least. 🤷🏾‍♀️
(ps this episode was great all things aside)
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