also thinking about dickroy as two people with absolute faith in the other + dick being allowed to step back from the spotlight around roy + roy trusting that someone will always be at his back my beloveds
I hate people who are like “go read the comics” or “this is so OOC” or “x would never do/say that”
Because like, when it comes to the Batfam/young heroes, canon is SO confusing:
Both teen titans/titans and Young Justice are Canon, but they can’t exist at the same time since Dick and Tim have been on both teams
In teen titans/TTG miss martian/m’gann and Artemis don’t exist (the same with Aqualad I think)
And in YJ starfire, cyborg, and raven don’t exist.
In TTG starfire doesn’t like Robin back, but in teen titans they’re dating.
In TTG Robin hated Kidflash, but in YJ Dick and Wally are best friends.
In both TTG, Teen titans, and TITENS, Dick is the Robin on the team, but in the DCAMU Damian is Robin and his love interest is Raven.
In the comics Jason is the happy, exited, and impulsive Robin, but in TITANS he’s super aggressive and just not like he is in the comics
In YJ Conner is vastly different from In the comics.
In the comics Artemis, Roy(Arsenal), Kory(starfire) and Jason(red hood) are in a group called ‘The Outlaws’, but in other comics, and shows they don’t even exist together.
In YJ Artemis joins the YJ, but Roy gives up being speedy and becomes Red Arrow. In YJ it’s revealed that Roy is actually a clone of the original, and the OG ends up becoming Arsenal, though totally different from his comic counterpart.
And as icing on the cake, Kory doesn’t even exist in YJ.
Some of the comics also totally fuck up canon, along with some of the games (like Gotham knights), but I’ve never played the games or read the comics, so I can’t really say a lot about that.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that people should let others enjoy their media in peace, even if it’s OOC to what you believe is “true canon”
(NOTE: I’ve seen a lot of people both defend and hate on new 52 because of the direct opposition it has with other comics, yet it is still canon. It just goes to show that nothing and everything is canon, no one is right and no one is wrong.)
Dick breaking the world's record in skydiving and just never telling anyone but Tim and Alfred is amazing in itself but can you imagine the comedic potential of him just casually dropping this years later like that for example with the Titans:
Someone on tv: new skydiving/freefall world's record broken.
Dick, distractingly, reviewing some cases on the side: Oh yeah, I broke that one already, the trick is to not pass out for too long.
*Crickets*
*Crickets*
*Crickets*
Wally: you did... What ?
Dick:
Donna: You... Broke the world's record for skydiving, as in jumping off a plane two years ago and you never told anyone ?
Dick: Yeah. Two years ago, when Bruce went on his little time-travely trip.
*Crickets*
Roy, suddenly very tired (tm), with the deepest sigh you can imagine: Of course you did.
Garth: Wait no, what ? can we come back not passing out for too long while falling through the sky ? I think that's a pretty big part of the conversation?
In canon, because that was right before battle for the Cowl and Bruce was just dead, it was kinda one of the last things he did for himself before taking said cowl, he probably won't ever tell anyone but still, it's funny.
relating dc characters to phoebe bridgers songs will kill me. anyway
“coming down” (unreleased) is roy harper’s song (i read so much about him yesterday and immediately thought of this song for him. i mean come on!! i can and will dissect all of the lyrics in relation to roy, his relationship with ollie, and his sobriety.)
“funeral” is dick grayson’s song about jason todd
“scott street” is jason todd’s song to bruce wayne
“graceland too” IS SO STEPHCASS
“motion sickness” is how dick feels about bruce at times.
[Explanation: 2015-2018 technically, but this comic was published in 2015. Alternatively, it might be the 2014-2015 Agera One:1, especially since the RS was only unveiled in March (and Red Hood/Arsenal was released in June) but ultimately I figured not because that one's track-focused... not that Jason would particularly care about road-legality. Regardless, it's one of the Ageras, and it's not the regular R because the wing-mirrors are more svelte.]
Tim Drake & Bruce Wayne Tim Drake & Damian Wayne Tim Drake & Jason Todd Tim Drake & Dick Grayson tim Drake & Alfred Pennyworth Stephanie Brown & Tim Drake Cassandra Cain & Tim Drake Stephanie Brown/Cassandra Cain Tim Drake & Duke Thomas Tim Drake/Kon-El | Conner Kent Roy Harper/Jason Todd
Characters:
Tim Drake Bruce Wayne Alfred Pennyworth Jason Todd Dick Grayson Barbara Gordon Cassandra Cain Stephanie Brown duke Thomas Damian Wayne
Additional Tags:
Tim Drake is Red Robin Tim Drake Angst Tim Drake's Missing Spleen Damian Wayne is Robin Damian Wayne Has a HeartJason Todd is a Batfamily Member Batfamily is Family Dick Grayson is Nightwing Barbara Gordon Appreciation misunderstandings all relationships are minor Blink And You Miss It Slash I don't care about continuity but I have read a lot of comics so that's the vibe protective Tim Drake miscommunication as a plot device canon-Typical Violence descriptions of Injury creepy Ra's al Ghul scarecrow’s Fear Toxin (DCU) fear gas ruins everything
Summary:
"Wordlessly, and slowly, Bruce takes one breath after another, composing himself. He hands Jason the slightly crumpled sheet of paper. Jason reads it quickly. Quicker than Bruce, but he reads it again and again and again. Finally snapping with panicked urgency, 'What the fuck is this?'
Bruce, completely devoid of any inflection, forces himself to simply state the facts in front of him. 'That is Red Robin’s two week notice.'"
Or
Tim really thought leaving would be a lot easier. Both figuratively and literally.
Thinking about Dick and Roy as kind of parallels to each other.
Both taken in by heroes. Both raised as sidekicks and partners but not quite sons. Both ended up coming of age with distance between them and their mentors.
But then things start to differ as adults.
(Correct me if I'm wrong on anything with Roy, because I only know pieces and I'd love to know more.)
Dick is constantly pulled back into Bruce's orbit by force or by choice. Roy seems to have a more... active role in deciding when to let Oliver back into his life.
Roy raises Lian, getting to have her as a center of his world, and establishes himself as his own hero.
Dick is a bit more stuck in the shadow of Batman. Every marriage attempt gets destroyed. Every new balance found gets toppled by catastrophe.
Roy actually gets a life outside being a hero. Dick's whole world revolves around the superhero community.
It's just very interesting that the things DC seems so eager to erase from Roy's story are the things that let him grow up and become his own person.
Which, now that I'm thinking about it, also maps onto Dick. Every time he gets Free of Gotham’s everything, something pulls him back into it. Like an unwilling or unknowing Peter Pan, he's not allowed to grow up, not really.
And after all the reboots and retcons and resets, their relationship gets lost, too.
Idk, man. I miss when things for "adults" also meant growth and maturity. Not just tits and senseless violence.