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#I just finished the show and I'm not whole anymore because the parallels are so awesome

vidavalor · 3 months

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Hello Vidavalor! I just finished reading The Vavoom and you've convinced me entirely. I just have one thing that I'm not sure on. What about Azi saying "doesn't seem likely" in the pub? Is he teasing him? Why would he reject Crowley being so hot like that?

Hi there! :) Thanks for reading. Chocolate truffle?

So, two reasons, imo, for not letting Crowley get what he wanted out of that moment. (Aziraphale was absolutely melting internally, though, let's be real lol...)

The first reason is that, yeah, he's teasing him. He likes Cupid pursuing him lol. But maybe the funnier reason is rooted in the earlier part of the conversation and that's just that Aziraphale is making some meta and hilariously bitchy judgements about Maggie and her feelings for Nina so he has trouble envisioning Crowley's romantic vision as applicable to their parallels. He calls Maggie's feelings "a pash" a bit dismissively to Crowley after a quick pause of trying to find a word he feels is accurate for what he saw in the shop and then describes the issue to Crowley as "and I don't think she knows how to conduct a courtship." He's basically like The girl's a hapless mess, dear. She has no idea what she's doing. Zero game, whatsoever. Poor Nina. In doing so, he's making a comparison between their relationship and Maggie and Nina, which is also present in his response to Crowley's idea.

Aziraphale is aware that Crowley is seizing on the opportunity to romance him a bit with his vavoomy reply but Aziraphale's response is less about how romantic the way Crowley describes their kiss is and more like he's (pretend) irritated that Crowley thinks that the kiss is replicable for other people lol. He's like you dare to bring up The Vavoom as something you could just *make happen* for *Maggie*? The same Maggie that was just sobbing in her shop over a woman who barely knows her name?

Crowley, on the other hand, is a hopeless romantic and he believes that there's a vavoom opportunity possible for anyone who wants one and, next to yelling at his plants, his favorite hobby is facilitating romance for the humans. (He also seems to have a better appreciation of Maggie not being a teenager anymore, which seems harder for Aziraphale.) If Crowley's love wants these ladies to see some potential sparks then Crowley's game. Mags needs some help wooing the Coffee Shop Human. He gets to make it rain. Great day in the works for Crowley. He was more just seizing upon the opportunity to romance Aziraphale in the process by recounting his and Aziraphale's own first kiss than completely answering Aziraphale's request for ideas for Maggie and Nina and Aziraphale knows that. He knows Crowley's point is that he is a very old being who has been on Earth for a long time and has seen countless people fall in love and his definition of romance is and always has been him and Aziraphale so, if Aziraphale is requesting the gold standard Cupid package here for Maggie and Nina, Crowley's reply is nothing less than trying for a version of when he and Aziraphale tipped from big pash into vavoom sorted.

Aziraphale's "doesn't seem likely" response to that is actually misconstrued a lot, imo, because what he really is saying is more along the lines of: Doesn't seem likely. You and I *realigned the Earth* with that kiss. Maggie and Nina don't have that kind of passion. Maggie can barely tell Nina what her name is. They are mortal humans-- you might *kill* them if you tried to replicate our sort of vavoom, Crowley. Do be careful with my shop lesbians, dear...

(I also thought this was a very funny choice for the scene because if they're burying the idea of the first kiss here, episodes before 2.06, in such a way that this scene will seem very different if it turns out in S3 that Crowley was describing their first kiss in this scene, then Aziraphale's "doesn't seem likely" is also a meta dry joke over the fact that this whole thing is debatable between S2 and S3. They already knew they were writing towards the 2.06 kiss and that some would see that as the first kiss so throwing in Aziraphale replying "doesn't seem likely" to what will ultimately be Crowley describing what actually *was* their first kiss is something that's awfully funny and is another reason in support of the vavoom theory being true, imo.)

Crowley's "No. No no no no... get humans wet and staring into each other's eyes..." response to is both knowing that Aziraphale is playing with him a little and being semi-faux-long-suffering back like oh come *on*, that was so romantic of me and you're really not going to give me anything, are you, you absolutely marvelous bastard? Sure, pet me in the pub and make me husband Mr. Vacuum away but barely blink at The Vavoom... Fine, you know what? It wasn't even us at all. I saw it in a Richard Curtis film, which we both know is total bullshit but I've got my pride, ok? That said, I will do literally anything to get His Supreme Archangelness out of the guest room with haste so whatever will do that...

...wait, why are we now talking about Jane Austen and that time in the South Downs in this love conversation, angel, hmm?

#ineffable husbands #good omens #crowley #aziraphale #good omens meta #good omens 2 #aziracrow #crowley x aziraphale #good omens theory

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remyfire · 1 month

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I think the funniest thing about Hawk being Like That is that Alan Alda has writers credits on the show. This man voluntarily made his character the most touch starved needy desperate person on the planet and that's so fucking insane of him. But also Mr Alda I would like to give you a little hug and a kiss for giving him to us because I love him with my whole heart. And don't even get me started on the fact that Hawkeye yelled to a general "I want to have your baby!" In literally the first season. Like Hawkeye my love not everyone needs to know you want to be pregnant 😂 And truly he deserves to be absolutely smothered with cuddles, everyone loves him and he loves everyone and I think it could help fix him.

Listen my Trap brain is always on, he's my man, I am thinking about him quite literally daily. And now that you reminded me of the priest line I'm gonna think of that too! Like Trapper my love what happened in your past? Did your parents give you that many names in hopes you'd be a priest? Did you pick one yourself for confirmation? Why did you keep all of the names despite seemingly abandoning the religion? I am peering at him like a bug under a microscope and there's nothing he can do about it.

That little coffee through line with Margret is so cute! Even though I'm sure it was unintentional on the show's part I definitely couldn't help but think of it and flash back to The Nurses in both the scenes in Temporary Duty and CAVE. Margaret and cups of coffee representing her character growth is honestly so sweet and I love it. Also ooohhhh self proclaimed Military Brat Margaret Houlihan realizing that the Army Way isn't the only way or even the best way, and the things that would DO to her. The realization that what she's learned her whole life isn't necessarily good, and having to contend with what that means for her and her career and her personality. And also having to face her father after that, because we see in Are You Now, Margaret? that she cares very much about disappointing him and even affecting his career. Would such a realization maybe help her become more of her own person that isn't living only to make her father proud and keep up the Houlihan name? Or is her desire to be a point of pride for her family more important to her than her personal development? Truly she's so fascinating to me. And it's definitely an interesting parallel with Mulcahy, both of them having something so deeply ingrained in them that it h u r t s when it's finally inevitably broken out.

Everyone in this show suffered enough in the narrative for several lifetimes but damn if I don't wanna give them a little bit more hardship to really crack them open and wrap up their character development in the way they deserve. I'll definitely give them softness and love but first they need a little bit of pain I think 😂

(Also I am officially onto season 8! I finished Goodbye Radar last night and was a Wreck. Man I love this show)

Okay hi again anon, sorry for making this sit while thinking too hard about Hawk and Beje and Trap things.

I swear that Alan did more to break and attempt to breed Hawk than any of us fanfic authors have ever done. I am not entirely convinced that this man didn't start getting the bends once he couldn't whump Hawk anymore and instead pivoted to writing fanfics for the old distant zines that popped up in the '80s. He probably has multiple AO3 accounts right now just churning out agonizing pain. Alan we know what you are.

I do hate that we got so little development for Trap compared to Beej but it's also delightful because it means all of us get to sit here and rotate him on a merry-go-round that goes faster and faster and never stops. Anything is possible. He's so INTERESTING!!! He's like half a guy! No matter what anyone says, they could probably make it work! And that means I am in fact slam dunking the religious trauma into him at breakneck speeds. Sorry, bud (lie).

I'm so glad you mentioned Are You Now Margaret because that's one of those underrated episodes that always has its teeth so deep in me. We learn so much about her so fast. Her big friend group!! She had so many people who loved her and who she loves enough that she refuses to endanger them even though she hasn't spoken to make in years!! The fact that she will give her father that kind of deference even though we all know in our bones that he doesn't deserve it! God, Margaret.

I love people like you who run in with a wrecking ball just absolute decimating all these characters that we know and love so that I can come in after in my little clown car with hot chocolate and blankets. I am a simple author. I know what my duty is here. And it's getting everybody laid by everybody else but ALSO giving them extreme amounts of aftercare and pillow nests ;v; We all share such a vital role in this ecosystem.

#and my role is to be very simple and i know this #my ramblings #long post

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justsomerandomfanfic · 1 year

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Spooky, Scary - (Ghost) Eddie Munson X Female Reader

Title: Spooky, Scary

(Ghost) Eddie Munson X Female Reader

Additional Characters: Vecna (Mentioned), and Steve and the gang (Mentioned very briefly)

WC: 1,315

Warnings: Mention of Eddie's death, slight angst, Eddie's sad, some references, confessions, and fluff

It was Halloween night and the air was crisp. The moon was full and littered with stars. The streets were lit by the light of streetlamps. There weren't many people out at this hour, but those who were walking down the sidewalks wore costumes. Some of them looked like they'd been put together quickly in a moment of inspiration while others seemed to be carefully planned. You, yourself, were dressed up for the holiday. For the third year in a row, you were going as Princess Leia from Star Wars: A New Hope. You had your hair in two buns on the side of your head, a white dress with a silver and white belt. Your brown boots completed the outfit nicely. Having been thrifted from Goodwill.

Heading home from trick-or-treating, you hurried home to get away from the cold chill of the air. Kicking off your shoes, you headed to your room. Dumping your bag on the bed, you started sorting your candy before dumping it back into your bed, you plopped down onto your bed, sighing with content. After eating some candy and watching an episode or two of your favorite show, you decided to practice on your electric keyboard for a bit before bed.

Sitting down on your small bench, you turned on the keyboard and started playing the Halloween theme song, just because. After finishing the song without many mistakes, you paused. Hearing clapping. Now, you'd usually welcome applause, if you weren't home alone.

Turning around, you were face to face with a young man. He was tall, long curly brown hair, big brown eyes. He was wearing black jeans and a leather jacket. His whole style screamed 80s. He was pretty cute, you had to say as well. But that all was normal except for the boy before you was floating off the ground.

"Um... Hello?" You said, trying to keep any tremor out of your voice.

He smiled at you warmly "Hello there! I'm Eddie." he said with a wave.

"Um... Hi, Eddie. What are you doing in my room?" You asked nervously.

"I'm kind of stuck here. If you haven't noticed..." He paused, looking down at himself. "I'm not really alive anymore. My old home used to be here until your house was built."

"Oh. Um.. I'm sorry. Um... I'm Y/N." You said, standing from your piano.

Eddie smiled sadly, "Nice to meet ya."

"Soooo..." You trailed off, sitting down on the edge of your bed. "You're a real ghost?"

Eddie nodded "Yup. And I've been haunting these halls since 1986."

Your eyes widened at the year, your jaw dropping slightly. "1986?"

Eddie nodded, floating over to float-sit on the bed beside you. "Yeah. What year is it? I haven't spoken to anyone in a while."

"2022." You exclaimed, flabbergasted.

Eddie's own eyes widened. "Wow. Okay."

"Well, Eddie. If I may ask... How did you die?"

Eddie smirked slightly, hiding the pain he was feeling, "Uh... You wouldn't believe me."

"If you don't want to tell me, that's alright. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable." You muttered, wishing you could reach out and place your hand on his arm.

Eddie shook his head "No, it's fine. I just haven't told anyone before. Ummm... I was killed in a place dimension thing called the Upside Down by Demobats." He explained, making your furrow your eyebrows.

"What?"

"Demobats. They're sorta like creepy bat things with sharp claws and teeth. Totally not metal at all,” Eddie explained, waving his hands around briefly. "But Vecna is gone now, so they're gone. I think." He muttered, eyes wandering around your room.

"Wait, so you were killed by weird bats and you're telling me that this Upside Down is like some creepy another dimension?" You questioned, confused.

"Yes. Yes. It's like a parallel universe where everything goes wrong. All the time." Eddie explained.

You stared at Eddie, mouth agape before laughing nervously. "That's pretty weird. I'm sorry you died like that."

Eddie chuckled "It's okay. Well... I do miss being alive. I miss being able to eat things, smell things, and touch things. I miss my friends. But I don't regret dying." He said with a shrug.

"Mmm." You replied, not really knowing what to say. It was silent for a bit before Eddie spoke up.

"Well!" He exclaimed, a smile on his face, which you had to admit to yourself, was quite adorable. "You asked me a question, so now it's my turn."

You fidgeted in your seat, turning slightly to the ghost boy, "Alright, what do you want to know?" You asked and Eddie hummed, pretending to think.

"Well..." He trailed off, "I want to know why you weren't scared of me. The last person I saw screamed and ran away." Eddie asked, looking at you curiously.

You chuckled, shaking your head "I don't really get scared easily And I consider myself strange and unusual."

Eddie huffed, flopping down onto your bed, "But I'm a ghost. That’s scary."

You shrugged, laughing lightly, "You’re not scary. And, well, before meeting you, I didn't know if I believed in ghosts actually." You admitted quietly.

Eddie's eyes widened, "Really? Then how did you explain how your brush moved from your desk to the bathroom?" He asked, surprised.

You looked over at him with wide eyes, slapping your hand on the bed with a soft thump, "That was you!? I knew I wasn't going crazy!"

Eddie grinned, nodding, "Yep! That was me." He said proudly.

You laughed, shaking your head "Well, thank you for letting me live my life normally." You said sarcastically, before speaking again. "So... Have you been haunting me this entire time I've lived here?"

Eddie huffed, sitting up, "Not entirely. I was mostly in the attic. But I come down here every once in a while. But, I didn't talk to you until now cause I thought you'd be scared of me." He muttered sheepishly. "I didn't want you to be scared of me."

"Oh..." You said softly.

Eddie nodded, "Yeah, and I'll be honest with you here... This may sound stupid, but I really like you." He said with a shy smile.

Your heart skipped a beat and you blushed, you weren't sure what to say in response.

"It must be weird hearing that. From a ghost." Eddie spoke, frowning slightly and looking down at your carpeted floor. "I mean... I've been here for sixty-four years, and I've never seen anyone as pretty as you. I only wish that I lived in this time. So I could talk to you. Gain the courage to ask you out or something."

You continued to stay silent, and Eddie continued, "I'm sorry I dumped all that on you. I'll go-"

"Eddie! Wait..." You called before he could disappear.

Eddie froze, and he glanced back at you, "Yeah?" He asked, nervous.

You smiled at him, feeling your face flush, "It's okay. It's a bit weird, sure, but I think you're adorable." You said softly, smiling at the ghost boy.

Eddie smiled happily, shocked by your response, "Adorable? Thanks." He said with a chuckle.

"And... I don't care if you're dead... We could just go on dates in my room or something, watch tv or play board games. People who are alive suck anyway." You laughed, placing your hand on his ghostly one on the bed.

Eddie's eyes widened, as did his smile before he took your hand in his. His smiling turned into shock as he held your hand in his.

"I can feel you..." He mumbled, eyes staring down at your hands.

You shuddered, nodding, "Yeah. You're cold."

Eddie gasped, "Oh! Sorry!" He said, dropping your hand, but you stopped him, taking his hand back in yours.

"It's fine, Eddie. The cold didn't bother me anyway." You chuckled, looking up at him as he smiled, confused.

"What?"

You shook your head, "Nothing..."

#eddie x reader #eddie munson #eddie munson x reader #eddie munson x female reader #eddie munson ghost #ghost eddie munson #x reader #x female reader #fluff #slight angst #stranger things #stranger things season 4 #stranger things season four #halloween fanfiction #2022

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fandoomrants · 7 months

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Okay, so it's time for some ep 7 thoughts.

Just finished it so it's still settling in my mind so if you decide to read this, please excuse my possible misunderstanding of some of the events.

So, warning, might be kinda random at places, a bit weird, and of course, spoiler-y. Might add to it later as well but this is what I have to say for now.

-First of all, I'm so happy the episode opened with Hera and what happened with her! And I just loved how a certain (droid-)someone came to the rescue more or less, and Leia was mentioned once again. I also love her last exchange with Mon Mothma and how she totally didn't buy the whole thing about the approved mission but still kinda took her side and didn't call it out in front of the rest. But also this question about Thrawn. I really hope they're going to finally listen to Hera and see the potential danger of Thrawn's return.

-Speaking of that, I'm wondering what's going to happen in the last episode because we're kinda nowhere near the end of the story. But I think that Thrawn is going to return for sure, and maybe they won't confront him in this last episode bit he's going to play bigger role in future productions, maybe a next season of Ahsoka (which I sorta think might not happen, I sorta see it as a stand alone like some other shows) or maybe the Mandalorian. I think in the last episode, it's gonna be some confrontation between Ahsoka, Sabine and Ezra, and Baylan and Shin. Especially between them and Baylan as Shin seems to be a bit confused herself. I think there are still many things that are yet to be explained about Baylan though, and his actions and plans and I'm worried there's not enough time. However, I also somehow see some parallel between him and Ahsoka fighting, and Sabine and Shin. Like some master-apprentice against master-apprentice thing. So, I hope that in the end there's going to be some epic scene with that involved. But more about this later.

-Mentioning the Mandalorian, there was a line in the beginning by Teva which sort of made the time period of when the series are taking place a bit clearer. Mandalore and Moff Gideon were mentioned, which sets these series after season 3 of the Mandalorian. But it sounds like it's quite close to where we are now. Like, maybe a few weeks or months. That's the vibe I got at least. And Thrawn was also mentioned in the Mandalorian too so it means the two shows are happening close to one another time-wise. Which confronts some of the theories about how Sabine wasn't present there because she was busy with finding Ezra. But also sorta presents the new question - why wasn't Sabine involved? But I have my small theory of how she doesn't fully see herself as a Mandalorian anymore. Nor a Jedi. I think in the beginning of the series, she was really kinda lost as to what she is because in the second episode, she took both the lightsaber and the helmet and she cut her hair and we kinda know Mandalorians keep their hair shorter because of the helmet (or I think it's established? I still liked her longer hair, tho). So who knows. Also, who knows what caused her to turn her back on her roots. I believe her possibly dead family might have something to do with that.

-Some small details I also noticed and liked from the episode were: Zeb's mention! I still haven't checked the tags and other people's thoughts on the episode because I wanted to first share my own thoughts without them being clouded by anything else I read but I'm sure the hype is gonna be as big as when Kanan and Leia were mentioned in episode 5. And there's a good reason! As I mentioned in a previous rant, I hoped they'll mention him at least. And they finally did! That's honestly all I hoped for because he was part of the crew. However, Ezra still doesn't know Hera has a son from Kanan? Or at least this wasn't mentioned as one of the things he learned from Sabine. Which makes his eventual reunion with Hera even more exciting!

-Also, for a moment I was worried Sabine had just left her Howler (I might have misspelled this or simply not remember how these were called but I mean the big animal she was riding in the previous episode, lol) but then I saw it's with them and for whatever reason this made me so happy, lol.

-Another thing is how Ezra is so... well, Ezra! Again, great casting! Such a positive and hilarious ray of sunshine even after 10 years of isolation. His playful exchanges with Sabine and also the "Wait! Wait, you can take us as... prisoners?" now I think it's a shame that everyone knows who he is so he can't introduce himself as Jabba the Hutt (does he know he's dead? And that this princess he met once killed him? And that her planet was destroyed and she's a Senator now? And that her father was Darth Vader? Probably not...) also loved how he fought only using the Force! There were some theories he might have turned to the dark side or something but the way I see it, he spent these years connecting with nature through the Force, thus making his bond with it and the light side even stronger than before. He's so much more like his early-Rebels self, before Maul and his temptations to the Dark Side.

-Another thing about Ezra is how I find it a tiny bit hilarious how he just... asks a question, doesn't get an answer, and just decides to change the topic without pressing too much. Honestly, a bit naive in a cute way but also maybe it's him sensing there's something huge going on and he just doesn't want to have his reunion with Sabine ruined by bad news. Still, I think it's about time they finally tell him what actually happened. I want to see his reaction and he also deserves to hear of all the possible threats. But he also has a lot of sharing to do! He said these creatures helped him when he needed it the most but nothing about what happened when he and Thrawn initially got to the planet. Or what was he actually up to in these years. I still think he might have had some deal with Thrawn or something because we saw how if he wants to, Thrawn can quickly find somebody's location on that planet. Why not look for Ezra? Thought he's not a threat? After the guy literally called a small army of space whales that took them through hyperspace to another galaxy? Somehow I'm not convinced. Even if he doesn't see him as a threat, he could have tried to get rid of him out of spite because of it... (Yeah, don't ever let me direct something, lol).

-About Ezra and his "eventual" reunion with Hera and everyone else. So, I had my worries about how it might turn out Ezra is dead before the previous episode. But now I have another worry which has been fed by a friend of mine who's also watching the series. We've been talking about how someone from the "good guys" might possibly die and she's really convinced it's gonna be Ezra (I just know she doesn't like him even though she insists she does after this episode, ok? Hasn't seen Rebels and doesn't know how amazing he is). I wasn't too convinced at first and constantly said they can't kill him just when they finally brought him back but tbh, for his not too much of a screen time these two episodes, he already mentioned how he can't wait to go home/thinks he'll finally come home/generally home-related stuff three whole times. And especially his last line... it really makes me think about it and how this is some dark foreshadowing and that it's not gonna happen. And I really hope I'm wrong. I don't see Ahsoka (obviously) or Sabine dying.

-And speaking of possible deaths, Baylan and Shin and their parallels between them and Ahsoka and Sabine come to the picture. So, correct me if I'm wrong but Thrawn just noticed that Baylan's not where the rest are and decided to withdraw his troopers because he just hoped to get rid of all Jedi/Force users at the same time, right? I mean, he wants Sabine and Ezra dead, he wanted Ahsoka dead too but he also sent these two squads to make sure Baylan and Shin are gonna be dealt with too, right? Or did I misinterpreted his words in both last and this episode too? I think Thrawn's main priority is to just get away from this place and leave all of them behind, hoping they'll be too busy fighting each other until it's too late to notice his departure. Which I can see happening. But I'm pretty sure Ahsoka's gonna find a way to return them back with the help of the Force or something. I don't think all of them are dying. I think Baylan might possibly die in a duel against Ahsoka as they've already had a few one-to-one fights, and same goes for Sabine and Shin, with Shin eventually being defeated by Sabine after a few previous encounters where Shin managed to defeat her. These parallels I mentioned seem to me like they're each other's mirrors and main... not sure what to call it, responsibilities? I think that if Baylan dies, it's going to be Ahsoka killing him, or vice versa (but I'm not seeing Ahsoka dying so he's more likely to), as well as Sabine killing Shin (here I have this really awful theory of how Ezra might eventually die, maybe Shin is going to kill him, thus making Sabine kill her. But again, let's hope Ezra is not going to die. Also, it'll really pull Sabine's dark side out. She's not strong with the Force so it won't be really like her turning to *the* Dark side but it's still not gonna be pretty and maybe won't be approved by Ahsoka. Might be an interesting plot line to be further developed, tho. Anyway, hopes and prayers we don't get to see any of this). Master against master and apprentice against apprentice. Honestly, I'll be kinda disappointed if something else happens, if we go with the route of these two dying.

-Now, there's something else, though. As I said, we're not fully aware of what Baylan is up to, and we're going to finally find out. We saw he's interested in the planet and has some plans to do something there. Also, we saw a few occasions in the last two episodes where Shin was a bit confused and unsure of him and his words towards her + Ahsoka offering to help her. So I think there might be a slight chance of Shin deciding to turn sides and join the others, thus surviving (or still getting killed but by her previous master or something else). And I think there might be a chance Baylan doesn't die as well but just... do something. Not sure what but he might do something... Which might be the reason Ezra doesn't, after all, go home. I'm still thinking of how often he mentioned home and how it might be a foreshadowing he doesn't get to do that. So, if it's not because he dies, I think it might be because he chooses to stay behind. But there must be a good reason for that as he really wants to. So maybe he willingly decides to stay back, maybe prevent something bad from happening and also to protect his new friends from whatever.

...

Andd that's it for now. Might add some other things later. If you read this, first of all, thank you! Second of all, sorry if it wasn't coherent at times or there were typos.

#rant #sw #star wars #ahsoka #rebels #ahsoka tano #sabine wren #ezra bridger #thrawn #baylan skoll #shin hati

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rolling-restart · 7 months

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I think we all agree that I'm Your Man is Nico to Toto, especially in your desecration prequel but I Love Me After You is when Nico finally wins and retires. Perhaps the most fitting lines and that made my brain explode are 'I love me after you/ King of all the land/ I'm king of all the land' mainly because Nico doesn't need Toto anymore, there's nothing more Toto can give him now that he finally has the championship

Feel free to ignore my rambling, I just needed to let it out after constantly thinking about it the moment I finished listening to Mitski's album

Bonus: The Frost is sooooo brocedes coded 'Now the world is mine alone' 'Now I have no one to tell how I lost my best friend'

I could write a whole essay about the parallels between Mitski songs and Nico, brocedes and nico/toto but in conclusion, the whole new album is so incredibly Nico coded as most of Mitski's discography😌

Okay, first of all, these are amazing!!!! I know when I see listening with intent and I really appreciate your catches. As I said, I didn't do a full listen of The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We but I listened to the ones you mentioned and you are so so so right. Now, you made me go back to Mitski and I'd like to share my own parallels and stuff I thought about while I was writing :')

This is for Nico, feeling suffocated by Toto's influence and money because even though we think them in a relationship, they are not equals and Nico is never free.

This is what I was listening to when I was writing desecration's part where George was having trouble with unprescribed medication :') it really does speak for itself.

This is more Galex more than anything and George's struggle of fitting back into a personality and image that could be acceptable and loveable by Alex. "And I was so young when I behaved 25" somehow fits George perfectly.

This reflects George's incessant need to be seen by Toto even though their relationship is actually very fucked. For George, nothing is really about one thing. He pushes his insecurities and the pain of growing up in his relationship with Toto.

This is... difficult to talk about. This was what I was listening to when I was planning a darker turn to the story but it never came to be. But I listened to it on repeat many, many times.

This is a reflection of later in the story when George almost gives up his sense of self and drifts away in the direction Toto shows him. He is pretty hopeless until the big Galex reunion.

This is definitely, definitely Nico/Toto. Their dynamic is built on Nico doing what he wants and being punished for it repeatedly :') In Toto's eyes, Nico will always be the villain.

This is just a cute princess cake break!! This is how I think Jenson admires Nico while they reconcile and finally form a healthy relationship.

This is also an unwritten scene, between George and George's mum. I personally like this one very much and relate, too.

Phew, you prolly weren't expecting this but here you go, Mitski inventory of desecration universe. Hope you enjoyed it. I might do one more after I listen to The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We fully.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the class, anon!

#tw: abuse #desecration: gr/tw fic #primavera: a desecration prequel #answered asks #mitski #tw: suicidal thoughts #🚩

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simplemente-myself · 8 months

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Good Omens Manifesto - 1

(this was written on 11/08/2023)

I watched the first season of Good Omens in 2020 when I had just arrived in the UK and my English skills were very limited, I hadn't heard about the book, and I did not know David Tennant (Shame on me! I know) and barely knew Michael Sheen from his role in Passengers only (Oops!). I think that I read a blog recommending this show for English learners, and then I read the synopsis and went for it. I quickly engaged with that magic and a bit absurd world of Angels and Demons, the end of the world story, and of course the captivating performance of both main characters. As a Christian and former well-committed Catholic (Am I still a Catholic? I don't know anymore) the show challenged my vision of God's ineffability and Their role in the fate of humanity many times. The thing is that I loved the show, I laughed loudly so many times with every episode and I enjoyed that hypnotic chemistry between Crowley and Aziraphale. I loved the whole first season and simply adored the finale: Cheers to the World! I must recognise that with a happy heart and relaxed mind after watching such as heart-lifting show I did not follow much of the news about the show because I never thought that I would be blessed with a second season. When I heard that the second season was coming, I became very excited about having the opportunity to witness again this marvellous universe of love, craziness, shadows, and colours. As I always do, I didn't read anything about the plot for this second season basically because I can't stand any spoilers and a week ago, I put myself on the task of watching season 2. Oh my God! Despite being very busy with my studies I finished the season in just a couple of days. I was enjoying it so much, laughing a lot, watching with a big smile on my face all those minisodes (5 stars to the Zombies!) that showed more about the Angel and the Demon's long-lasting relationship throughout history, and again it found me thinking about God, Heaven, Hell, and we simple mortals. I was so goddamn fooled by the disappearance of the Archangel f**** Gabriel, the love story between Nina and Maggie, and its parallel between Aziraphale and Crowley that I never expected such a punch in my stomach, heart, and soul that gave me the last minutes of the final episode. It felt like a bucket of cold water on my feelings! I was sceptical about what I had just seen and waited until the last minute – even when the credits and the melancholic music were already in front of me - that Aziraphale would leave that lift and the awful Metatron to come back to Earth. But it didn't happen... So, here I am, I watched again season 1 and loved it even more, probably because now my English is better and also because now, I see Tennant and Sheen as two beloved and incredibly talented actors. I am a huge fan of those performances that move your guts - such as Sarah Lancashire's in the amazing Happy Valley - and for me, the core of this season was how Michael and David delivered the millennia-lasting relationship between these two celestial entities and made everyone who watched Good Omens to believe in true unconditional love and cheering for them to be together for other 6,000 years and more. I'm amazed at David Tennant's ability of showing Crowley's hidden emotions even when he is wearing dark glasses and Michael Sheen’s grace in showing an overload of innocence that doesn’t match his long-lived existence.

(it continues in the next post)

#good omens #good omens 2 #good omens spoilers #neil gaiman #aziraphale #crowley #david tennant #michael sheen

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after-nine-at-the-oasis · 9 months

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I JUST FINISHED EPISODE SEVEN AND AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Well technically I finished it like 20 minutes ago (11 pm ish) and was in such shock that I rewatches some scenes several times and then looked at Tumblr for a few minutes lol. There were also a few minutes total of zoning out in shock and just going o.o in there lol. Anyway!

I LITERALLY GUESSED THAT SEB WOULD GO UP AND KISS HIM DURING THE PERFORMANCE OH MY G O S H H H H AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! :DDDDD

OKAY OKAY OKAY PHEW AAAAAHHHHHHHH I'M FINE :DDDD I DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO BE RELIEVED ABOUT WITH THE PHEW I'M JUST SETTLING DOWN LOL!!!

Okay alright lol. Let's do this ;)

EVERYONE'S HEREEE :'DDDDD!!! THERE WAS EVEN A NINI MENTION 🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️😭!!! But still - we miss you, Nini :').

Speaking of people being here though, ANTOINE??? :OOO MY GUY??!?!!? BRO LIKE JUMP SCARED ME WHEN HE SHOWED UP :DDDD

Also at first I was a bit disappointed it was in the gym (for like two seconds lol) but then I realized :'DD it's paralleling season 1 :')) and they're back with another High School Musical musical :'))) 😭😭❤️🥰. Like, Ricky pausing when he saw his mom and his dad but keeping going :'DD? That's the healed version of Getcha Head in The Game 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️🥰. The whole thing is a great parallel :')). Like, now that I think about to, Kourtney being nervous like Nini was because her life is changing relating to school - AAHHHH :'))). I just love them all so much <3333. And I wonder if we'll get a phone light moment :'D. If we don't though lol, I think we've had enough of those <333 so we'll survive :'). But even though it was kind of a parallel relating to Nini, it's kinda Kourtney as well :'). And hey, then it would be a reference to Nini <333. Ah, anyway :'). I just love that we're ending here we started <333 :')) 😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰.

Okay okay though lol let's get into character sections xD

Big Red confronting Antoine was AMAZING LOL!! It's especially hilarious considering he and Ashlyn aren't even dating anymore, but you know, some guys are just jerks xD. Anyway, I'm super glad he's here :'))) <33. Also phew his hair is better lol 😌! XD.

EJ :DD! His scene with Gina was so 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔❤️❤️. I can't even <333. I am really glad she apologized though :') - I understood where she was coming from, and you have every right to break up with someone for any reason, but I always felt like she was being a little hard on EJ last season. So seeing them have a mutual apology and understanding was really nice :')). And discuss Ricky lol? EJ is the best <3. Also I swear if EJ ends up as Coach Bolton xD. Lowkey, I'd prefer Seb or Big Red since they're still in high school, but EJ alluded to being on the stage again and he fits the role more 👀. Hm, interesting :). Also him talking to Ashlyn 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️. Your honor I love them so much :')). And I love him <333.

Ashlyn!!! AAAHHHHHH SHE'S GONNA TELL HER :'DDD!! I want to know what's in the box o.o 👀. Less shocked and more just EYEING on my part lol. Also her scene with Dewey Wood was so sweet 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️. Ay, that's another person who's back :D!! I love him, he's great :D <33. And hilarious xDD. Anyway, SLFJDHKGS her pretending to date Big Red xD. But also noooooo Maddox 😭😭😭😭❤️. I'm sure they'll work it out y'all but like- I really hope they work it out xdd. Anyway, she's slaying as Kelsi :DD 🥰. I love her so much <333.

Emmyyyy!! She's the only one who knows about Miss Jenn o.o. Of course she is though, lol xD. But anyway, she's slaying too, as Taylor :'DD. And I love how she was kind of being like, the Bailey there :')). I love her and Miss Jenn's relationship, even if we haven't seen much of it <33. And I love her 🥰❤️.

Jet is going through it lol xD. Poor Kourtney just is not picking up what this man is putting down :') xD. Or she is and is ignoring it lol. But, hey, he tried at least xd. I think he's gonna confess, but I don't know if she'll reciprocate or not 😬. Still, I'm proud of him no matter what :')) <33. And he's slaying so hard as Chad :D!! Also, he's being an amazing brother <333 :'D.

Maddox, my girllll 😭😭😭😭😭💔❤️. The balloons for Madison making the board break :'(((. It is sweet of her but like xdd <333. AND NOOOO MADDOX BEING ABOUT TO CONFESS, OR BEING READY TO ANYONE, AND SEEING ASHLYN PRETEND TO DATE BIG RED 😭😭💔💔❤️. Poor honeyyy DD': 😭. Like I said, I think they'll get through it, but in really hope they do still xdd <333. I love her 🥰.

Mr. Mazzara is slaying SO HARD :DDD!!! But seriously who is gonna take over 😬. Also dang he keeps having moments with Miss Jenn and the girl just dips and leaves him hanging 😭 xd. Oof sorry man, lol xDD. Anyway he does SO WELL as Coach Bolton :DDD!! Also, he's adorable, thank you very much <333. Like we especially see it in the beginning:'). I love him so much <333.

Miss Jenn! AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH W I C K E D??!?!!? G I R L!!!! :'DDDD HONEYY!!! I would say GOOOOO!!! but also I want her to stay 😭😭. Unless EJ does and all our theories and fantasies about him being director come true 👀. Anyway xD. I love her supporting all of them :')). And AAHHHH helping Gina out :')). And her being the only who knows (before EJ)!!! AAHHHH :'DDD. Also, she's slaying as Ms. Darbus of course :DD 😌. Anyway, whatever she picks, I hope everything works out :')). I love her so much <33.

Ricky you are SLAYING :'DDD!!! AND AAAAHHHHHHHH HIS PARENTS BEING THERE TOGETHER!!!! I don't know if they're actually TOGETHER together but I'm so happy for him that they're both there and getting along :'DD. Also him practicing the speech on them was adorable and funny xDD. Also him hugging Big Red <333. My besties :')). And 😬😬 things are like, okay?? With Gina's mom?? But not great xd. In the beginning, that is - not at the end o.o. Anyway, Ricky is slaying as Troy :DD. But AAAHHHHH MY POOR BABEY AT THE END THERE 😭😭😭😭💔💔❤️. He was gonna tell her he loved her :'((. And then her mom had to sweep in and do that 😭😭😭💔❤️. I'm not okay, thank you <33. I love him ❤️❤️. And I'm mostly sure that this'll all work out, but also- I really hope it does 😭😭❤️.

GINAAAA A MOVIE STAR :DDD!!! I mean beyond the one you already starred in. I'm so happy for and proud of her :')) :'DD <33. But girl you really need to tell Ricky 😭😭💔❤️. Again, I loved her conversation with EJ <33. And AAAHHHHHHH with Miss Jenn too :'DD. I just love them all so much <33.

Okay I was trying to complete this lol but I was in bed and I ended up falling asleep (as i figured I would) SO it's morning now let's do this (I already planned on watching this last episode this morning) XD

Back to Gina, she's playing as Gabriella 🥰🥰❤️. Also why does her mom like only watch her scenes 😭. Chill girl xd. Anyway, I wasn't thinking she's gonna go? Like to do the movie but I honestly don't know 😭❤️❤️ xd. Just because like, she was saying she didn't want change and obviously change can be good but it's okay to stay the same for a while you know? Ahh, I don't know, but I'm stressed 😭😭😭❤️💔. Either way though, I'm proud of her :')).

Kourtney honeyy 😭😭💔❤️. Back to my roots starting this with "Kourtney honeyy" xDD. Anyway, AAAHHHHHHH SHE GOT INTO BOTH SCHOOLS :DD!! But DD: my poor girl has to decide now :'(((. Seeing her anxious backstage was literally killing me 😭😭💔❤️. While we're on that, she does such a good job of portraying anxiety :')). Anyway, Kourtney's mom is the best, we love her <33 😭❤️❤️. And apparently all the other theatre kid do too xD, as they should lol <3. Anyway, even though I wish she gave her the letters after the show for Kourtney's sake, I'm glad she was supporting her and also told her not to worry about it till later xD <33. Oh, and her conversation with Carlos was amazing 😭❤️. But whatever she chooses, I'm happy for her and so proud of her 🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️ <33. And poor Jet xD. Mans is trying lol :'). I do wonder if she already knows though, or if she's just oblivious xD <3. Also, Kourtney is SLAYING as Sharpay :DD!!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥳❤️. I love her :))) 🥰❤️❤️.

Okay separate again and then together because I can do what I want lol xD. Anyway, you know what time it isss lol

(what time is it? seblos time-)

AAAAHHHHHHHH Carlos is slaying SO hard as Ryan :DD!! Also :')) his conversation with Kourtney <33. Lowkey that's a pretty good story :'DD. Especially for the situation. Like candy isn't college obviously but yeah, they are both good choices :'))). Anyway, I love him ❤️❤️❤️❤️😭🥰 <33.

AAAAAHHHHHHH the way Seb kept looking at his dad in the audience 😭😭😭💔❤️. Also can we talk about the growth that is him coming back later to talk about it :'DD ❤️🥰😭❤️. And back to the audience, I love how into they all were :'DDD xD ❤️. Like Seb and Big Red and EJ and stuff were all dancing and I'm like YEAH good for them <33333. XD anyway lol. He slayed accidentally being a part of the show xD. I love him <333. Oh also, since he said "more than just a wrestler", are we assuming Seb's bi/queer xDD? Like queer besides gay lol? Because like totally fine if so obviously I'm just curious lol. Anyway yeah I love him 🥰🥰❤️.

Okay just a bit on their own now let's talk about Seblos together lol xD.

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY BABEYSSSS :'DDDDD 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰!!!!! THEY RETURN TO USSS :'DDD!!!! AND THEY'RE SO ADORABLE 😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰!! ALSO LAST EPISODE AS WEL AS THIS EPISODE, WE GOT A "HONEY" AGAIN!!! THE RETURN OF HONEY Y'ALL 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰!! AS WE D E S E R V E!!! Anyway xd. Y'all I am living my best life lol, this is exactly what I wanted xD. Cute after the angst, lol xDD 🥰❤️❤️. How they managed to fit BOTH a cheating recovery storyline (with several twists) and a coming out storyline I have no idea but XDD. Lovely lol. I needed a bit of fluff and a couple kisses and that's what I got so no complaints here 😌😌 XDD 🥰🥰❤️. My babeys <33. Anyway!!! Like I said I loved how you could really see their growth with this :')). Like Carlos could tell Seb was trying not to lie and actually asked him about it, and Seb came back later to talk :'DD. Though "are we using words now, honey?" BRUTAL man XDD dang Carlos lol. But seriously I'm really proud of them both :')) <33. Also thank goodness there were some really funny moments throughout their storyline 😭❤️. We needed it xD. Listen I'm just glad we get close to normal Seblos for while :'). Because if we didn't get anything significant of them after getting back together I would've needed another season so I could see them be happy LOL. Anyway xD 😭❤️❤️🥰. In all seriousness I did really like their storyline this episode <333 :') ❤️❤️😭🥰. And describing it as an Afterschool Coming Out Special from the 1980s was hilarious XDDD. But let's go back to what I mentioned at the beginning of this post because

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SEB WALKED ON STAGE AND KISSED CARLOS :DDDDDD 😭😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰!!!!!!! FREAKING OUT!!!!!

I LITERALLY MESSAGED MY SIBLING WHEN SEB SAID HIS DAD DIDN'T KNOW LIKE "he's gonna kiss Carlos in front of him/everyone isn't he lol" AND OH MY GOSH I WAS R I G H T!!!! I DON'T KNOW IFI SPECIFIED ON STAGE BUT IT WAS ONE OF MY GUESSES!! I was also like NOO they wouldn't BUT THEY DID :'DDDD!!!! OH MY GOSH I LOVED THAT SO MUCH 😭😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰. Also the way the whole audience was like 👁️👄👁️ WELL ALRIGHT :DDD!! XDDD!! Plus a Rina kiss right after that so the audience must just be going with it xD. Maybe Seb's playing the young version of the nameless Scott Hoying character lol and we just connected it to HSM4 XDD. Oh and "THIS MEANS WE'RE A THING" S T O P P P P HE IS THE MOST ADORABLE EVER 😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰. Also how his dad immediately turned to (presumably) his mom to talk to her XDD. But he was smiling next so I think we're good :')). Maybe we'll see a talk next episode or a meeting but who knows <3333. I'm happy either way 🥰🥰.

Also Seb. PLEASE BE COACH BOLTON!!! Listen I know he probably won't but HONEY PLEASE STOP SHAKING YOUR HEAD 😭❤️❤️ xD!! I need it <333. Okay fine I just really really want it xdd <33.

Anyway that was the most adorable thing ever and I love them so so much <33333 😭😭❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰.

And y'all the MUSIC THIS EPISODE!!! ALL THE SONGS WERE SO GOOD :DDDD!!! Y'all know I love Now or Never xD but SERIOUSLY they were all amazing :DDD. And can we talk about the set and blocking/choreography with it as well??? I don't know how they had time for all that but it's a SLAY!!! Though I suppose they did show us with the dancing in episode 2 that they learn quickly lol xD. Anyway 🥰! Night of Nights was amazing (plus Seblos kiss at the end of the song 🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️ perfect timing by the way Seb <333 xD)!! I Want It All was SUCH A SLAY!!! And like I said, I adore Now or Never xD. Mr. Mazzara just WORKED in it too, he was perfect :D!! Anyway, yeah, it was all wonderful 🥰🥰🥰❤️.

Y'all I loved this episode so freaking much :')). I'm scared for the next one, and DEFINITELY not at all read, especially considering it's the finale 😭😭, but I am SO FREAKING EXCITED!!!! I am gonna miss this show though :'). So, so freaking much <333. But yeah - this episode was AMAZING!! I'm glad we're getting a lot of the performance, too - we deserve it :'D. Though hopefully this time Ricky stays in it lol <3. But seriously, every part of this episode was just amazing :')). I really hope everything works out xdd. It better lol XD :'D. I'm sure it will (almost sure) <33. Ahh, I love them all so much :') <333 😭❤️❤️❤️🥰. Such a great, wonderful episode :) <333. And I am SO EXCITED for the next one :'D. The last one :'))).

So, let's do this :'D.

ONTO EPISODE EIGHT!!!!!

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fuesch · 1 year

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Good news, everyone! I've finished the binge from hell (Criminal Minds).

What made it hellish was that I just could not stop. I don't know if it was also something about the show or just my out-of-control ADHD using this as an excuse to ignore my to-do list. And so this binge took under 2 months, which - FUN FACT! - is shorter than finding a doc these days to get an ADHD diagnosis from (the German healthcare system has such a good reputation, but honestly, shit's been going down the drain since before Covid - and I say that as a city dweller).

If you're wondering how my fragile mind managed to handle this non-stop input of murder and various forms of torture:

Ignore the cases or try to enjoy them as revenge fantasies.

Focus on the team and all the "Hey, I know you from this/that/everywhere!" guest stars instead.

Crochet while watching. I've made such progress, the first of my cherry-pit socks is nearly finished!

I can't believe how long it's been since I've properly watched TV: The season I'm most familiar with is 2! Since other factors hadn't come into play yet, I suspect what caused this was a deterioration in adhering to a schedule (hm, parallel with rl, so I guess due to not being bound by a rl schedule, I slowly lost the ability to keep up with the TV schedule) and my growing passionate hatred of annoying commercials which had led me to getting stuck on Nickelodeon (their ads were also annoying, iirc, but ... uh, idk, can't remember), a documentary channel and CNN (International, that is - such bearable commercials, they should be the model for all).

I liked all the women on the team, which must have been a first. I couldn't tell you a favorite, because every one of them is great in her own way. Let me point out Garcia though, for giving me back the joy of hair decorations. Huh, I thought not having NCIS's Abby in my life anymore didn't impact me, but Garcia made me realize that without Abby my encouragement was gone. Man, do I hate that I need continual encouragement to be myself! So there's another CM binge and the long-time-coming NCIS rewatch with making caps of my girls in my future. Maybe I'll make myself a motivational collage and hang it on the wall above my monitor.

Anyway, on to the team's men! *sigh* Those were mixed bag for me. I mean, nobody was really bad, but it did span the whole range of chest-thumping type (which ugh - although Morgan's relationship with Garcia remains the best thing, they were close and cute but not a thing and that's the queerplatonic shit I wanna see everywhere, fuck yeah!) to guy who's just, idk, there and the that's-my-boy guy. My boy was and still is Reid *pat pat*. And as a bonus during this binge he functioned as my Peter Maximoff substitute. He did that not only by being my fave, but for example also by having messy lightbrown hair. Which, sure, isn't Peter, but it is Evan Peters (I'd like to take this moment to thank the writers for all the Evans and Peterss they put in and the casting person for that one time we got actual EP), who usually is my PM substitute. Hmph, I didn't talk about Spence as much as I meant to, but where to even begin?

How did everyone feel about the revival? It wasn't bad, but it didn't quite feel like previous seasons. I'm not that good at finding out what is bothering me about stuff, so it might have been more things besides it feeling darker visually and too much swearing (I'm generally not against it, but after 15 seasons of it not being there, it just felt so out of place). I wasn't happy with the lack of my boy, but if there's one thing this revival did right, it was the absence of change in the meantime (except for what they put Rossi through), Reid as well as everyone else still worked at the BAU, we just didn't see him and Simmons because they were on assignment.

I kinda want to talk about ALL the things, but I wouldn't be able to remember all that I want and writing all that I do would take sooo long. So if anyone wants to talk about anything specific, I'm here.

#criminal minds #crochet #(rl stuff)#peter maximoff #evan peters

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bustyasianbeautiespod · 2 years

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Episode 39 Transcript: Sera Gamble's Andreaverse

[intro guitar music]

G: Hello, my name is Grey.

C: And my name is Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times…

C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we're both Asian.

G: Both Asian!

So for this episode, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 17: “Heart,” written by Sera Gamble and directed by Kim Manners.

C: I can't believe Kim Manners did this to my eyeballs. [G laughs]

G: It's not that bad. Like, there are some shots and, like, some cuts that are genuinely hilarious.

C: [laughing] There is one scene that is genuinely awful to watch.

G: It's incredibly funny, like, this episode. I know that most people will probably remember "Heart" as a gut-wrenching, like, tearjerker episode or whatever-

C: Yes.

G: [laughing] But I will remember this episode as the most hilarious in Supernatural thus far. [C laughing] It is so funny.

C: I just can't believe that this happened two episodes after "Tall Tales"-

G: I know.

C: - where John Shiban tried to put his whole jshussy into being funny [G laughs], and like, it cannot come anywhere close to "Heart."

G: [laughing] Sera Gamble out jussied him. Literally. It's so funny. And, I mean, we'll get into it when we get into it, but multiple times in this episode, I had to stop and pause and like, start pacing around the house laughing maniacally. Like [laughs], it's that funny. So yeah. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this episode, just for the fun factor.

C: Yeah, I think it took me one and a half hours to watch this 40-minute episode because I had to keep pausing and screaming.

G: So true. Okay, so before going in: Crystal, what did you know about this episode prior?

C: Okay, so this was- this whole episode generally was in "bad moon rising," which is the fic that's the season 1 and 2 Supernatural rewrite with Arab Sam and Dean that I haven't mentioned it a while. So yeah, I knew that generally, like, it was gonna be about Madison and that she was a werewolf, but they wouldn't know for a while, and that she killed, like, her boss who sexually harassed her and her shitty abusive boyfriend while she was a werewolf. And then eventually, after they find out and she goes, like, "Oh, like, I don't want to hurt people anymore, so you can just kill me, even though basements exist and you just lock me in there," though that's not what she does in "bad moon rising," but I do know that's what happens in this episode. And also, I know about the scene where Sam and Dean do rock paper scissors [G laughs] to like, decide who gets to stay behind with her, and also about the scene where she's folding lingerie in front of Sam-

G: God.

C: - and Sam looks away, like a lesbian seeing Victoria's Secret in the mall. [G laughs] And I think- oh, yeah, and I specifically know about the scene where she like, smirks while she's folding her underwear, because that's the end of the Sam "Slumber Party" AMV.

G: So true.

C: Yeah, which is very, very important to Supernatural history.

G: They literally had a slumber party this episode.

C: Yep.

G: Okay. So to begin, we start with, again, like, per usual with episodes where there's no like, backstory to dive into, we start with no- what's that?- "Road so Far," which I thought was interesting. Every single time there's no "Road so Far," I'm like, "That's interesting!" And it has happened so many times, and I still can't move on. [laughs]

C: I'm glad that there wasn't a "Road so Far," because I think if there was, it would just be all the scenes of Sam going like, "I'm a monster! And you have to kill me!" [G laughing] and they already make it so clear that they're trying to parallel Sam in this episode that having a "Road so Far" about it, like, I would be like, so sick and done with this episode like, 10 minutes in.

G: No, literally. So we start in California. Does is say where in California?

C: San Francisco.

G: San Francisco. Oh, yeah, 'cause we see a lot of the San Francisco bridge thing a lot this episode. Right. They really hammer it home.

C: Right. Bay Area sure can have bay. [G laughs]

G: But we start with Madison, who is this woman, and her friends having fun and having drinks. And it's so funny because the entire scene where she's talking to her friends, they're not talking at all, they're just laughing. [C laughs]

C: Yeah.

G: Literally, that's just how women talk. [both laughing]

C: That's just how women talk.

G: This is how Supernatural thinks women talk, they just go "[laughter]."

C: Yeah, women don't have thoughts, they don't have sentences, they just laugh.

G: Literally. Supernatural thinks women only exist to be talked to by men and laugh within themselves.

C: Yeah. Ugh, it's such a tease to open in San Francisco, California with Madison at a bar with other women and then not even have her be gay. You know?

G: Is- why? Is San Francisco a gay thing?

C: Yeah, San Francisco's a very gay city. Haven't you read those posts-

G: Oh. Are you from there? [laughs]

C: No. [laughs] I mean, haven't you read those posts that are like, "Sam applied to Stanford because he knew that California was the only place that he could be gay"?

G: In the bar, a man goes up to her, and it's her boss, Nate, and he's saying, like, "Hey, we need to go back to the office because there's some papers that we need to be done by midnight," but he's obviously tipsy, and, you know, he's obviously flirting her up. And Madison is like, not having any of his shit. So at some point, she says, like, "Yeah, this is not working," and then he's like, "Well, I'm a bit tipsy, so can you drive me?" and she's like, "I'll call a cab." You know, she's shutting him down. And she laughs with her friends that he's really like that when he gets a little bit drunk. He's a- Madison is surrounded by terrible guys this episode, [laughs] and I am counting Sam Winchester.

C: Sam Winchester! My god.

G: Yeah. [laughs]

C: He's such a creep this episode.

G: He's literally such a creep!

C: And, like, Sera Gamble tries to counteract this by making Dean, like, twice the creep he usually is so that Sam looks good in comparison, but like, my god. [laughs] Get all of these men out of here.

G: Eventually, Madison goes back to her drink when she notices a guy in the corner who's staring at her. And the guy looks exactly like he's doing a Sam Winchester cosplay. [both laughing] This guy has like, shoulder-length hair, he's wearing flannel under a jacket, you know, shit like that. He literally looks like a Sam Winchester cosplayer.

C: Yeah, no. I thought what he looks like was they just very clearly wanted you think he was a werewolf. Because, like, he looks like- like, I feel like all human werewolves look like they do like, nature hikes in mud, you know, like, that's the vibe that he has?

G: Not my resident blorbo werewolf Shi-Long Lang! [C laughs] He is wearing a leather jacket, babygirl! He's l- [laughs] I'm not gonna talk about him this episode. You know what ? We should set up basic for rules for this episode.

C: Okay, we have a pact this episode. I won't talk about omegaverse, even when Dean says "hot breeding action"...

G: And I will not talk about Ace Attorney that features a character who fancies himself like, a [both] wolf furry, Shi-Long Lang. I will not talk about any of those things.

Okay. [laughs] We're good.

So the guy freaks her out, so she goes to her car and drives away, and like, spends the night at home or something.

C: It's so weird that she- like, there's an extended shot of her like, walking around the parking lot alone and scared, and like, wouldn't you ask your friend to go with you?

G: Yeah, but like, if she's- like, she's scared that the guy is possessive, right, so if she asks like, a friend to go along with her, maybe she's worried that he's gonna go batshit over that as well? Like, this guy is not-

C: He seems to only be possessive over men in her life, though.

G: Yeah. Well, my wondering was like, are the outsides of bars really this empty?

C: Yeah, this was like, the world's largest parking lot for like, a bar that was like, 10 seats.

G: [laughs] No, for real.

Anyway, the next morning, she goes to her office. She works at like, a very fancy law firm, I think. And she goes to get coffee when she notices something, and she opens the door to Nate, her boss's office, and he is bloody and ripped apart.

C: Hell, yeah, baby.

G: The visuals, like, the special effects- by special effects, I mean practical effects on like, the bodies that get mauled this episode- are actually super good.

C: Mm-hm.

G: Like, they look realistic, they look like, gory, and they look nice. Nice, I mean like- you know what I mean. But yeah, pretty neat. This is like, you know, like, while watching this episode- because this one is directed by Kim Manners, right? So it is very quintessential early SPN, the look, and I was like, "Aw, I miss this look! Whatever happened to Supernatural after season five or whenever the shifts change?" I like season- I think honestly, like, season two is the last season that looks like this. Like, season three is a little bit wonky with the lighting, and in season four, they change cameras, so the look changed. So let's savor season two while we can, 'cause this is, I feel, the last season where it looks like this.

C: Okay, wait, we forgot to mention that when she sees like, her creepy ex across the bar, there's like, this zoom in on her face, and it's the funniest shit ever. Do you remember this?

G: I did not notice. I did not notice.

C: Okay, 'cause as soon as that happened, I was like, "Who directed this episode?"

G: Robert. Robert, are you here? Robert? [laughs]

C: But, no, it was Kim Manners.

G: Robert has infiltrated Kim Manners's artistic vision.

C: Yeah, he really has.

C: So we cut to a morgue where Sam is looking at Nate's body. He's like, vertical in a compartment or something? Or-

G: No, it's just the camera angle.

C: It's just the camera angle. So the mortician pulls him out, and he's got scratches all over that have been stitched up, and Sam asks the employee to tell him off the record who she thinks caused all this. And she says, "if I didn't know better, I'd say the guy was attacked by a wolf. But, you know, that's not possible because the only wolves around here are in zoos." And then Sam asks, like, "Oh, also, was this guy's heart missing?" And the mortician's like, "Yeah, how'd you know that?" And he's like, "Lucky guess." So now we're in the motel room, and- ugh. Dean's there. [G laughing] And seeing him there was like, a slap to the face. I forgot that he was supposed to be in this episode, I hated seeing his face in this episode, etc.

G: I recognize this scene because he's playing with h- not playing. He's cleaning his weapons, right? And this is a scene- there's a scene in like, an outtake where Jared was like, keeps on making mistakes, and he's like, "Sorry, sorry, sorry," and then Jared says, like, "This is difficult, you know?" And then Jensen is like, "Try disassembling and then assembling a gun and tell me it's difficult to do what you're doing," [laughs] which I thought was extremely funny. Anyway, that's it.

C: Right, what's the- "Jared's not saying his line right." What is it? [G laughs]

G: That's Misha Collins. That's Misha Collins.

C: Yeah, I know.

G: "Jared's not saying his lines right." Literally, so true. Misha deserves a GLAAD award [C laughs] for saying that in an outtake.

C: Oh, god. So Dean's like, really excited about this case, and he's asking about it, and he says, like, "Is this lawyer guy the first heart-free corpse in town?" And Sam says, "It was the first man. Over the past year, several women who were sex workers went missing, and their heartless bodies washed up later in the Bay. And they all worked near Hunter's Point."

Okay, so Sam and Dean didn't show up until a lawyer guy showed up? Like, they were collecting their news stories and they were like, "Eh, who cares?" [laughs] I don't know- what is the situation?

G: No, I think, maybe they just encountered like, an article that was like, "This is a worrying turn of events, and several women have gone missing, just like this one all throughout this year," and they were like, "Oh, let's see." Because, you know, usually, like, you don't connect the dots anyway until the police do connect the dots.

C: That's true.

G: Like, in terms of like, news about crime.

C: Yeah. Eh, I guess it makes sense. A lot of serial killers go after sex workers and then no one gives a shit.

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah. So most of these murders happened during the week leading up to the full moon, which includes this week. And Dean's like, "Awesome!" And Sam is like, "Bro, why are you like, being such a nerd about this?" And Dean says he's really excited because werewolves are a human by day, and a "freak animal killing machine by moonlight," and that makes them badass. Which- this doesn't really carry through the episode at all, right? Dean's excitement about werewolves?

G: Hm. I don't think so.

C: Yeah.

G: I don't think so. But also, I don't think it's out of character or anything like that. Like, I think it would make sense for Dean to be excited over a werewolf, or you know, like-

C: Or a werepire.

G: A werepire, as he would like to say. Like, he seems like, the type of guy to be excited over, you know, shit like this. So it makes sense.

Is Dean a furry? [both laugh] Sorry, I promised to not talk about furries this episode.

C: And you promised not to talk about Dean x Shi-Long Lang? [G laughs]

G: Exactly.

C: Yeah.: I guess- yeah, okay, I don't know what my point here was, but it's just interesting that Dean thinks werewolves are cool and badass, but as soon as he encounters one, he's just like, "You're evil and I need to kill you, and I don't even think it's cool that you scratch walls up."

G: No, I think him being like, "You're evil, I need to kill you" is the reason why he's excited, you know?

C: Yeah.

G: Like, "I'm killing something that's fierce and evil," and that's why he's so into it.

C: Yeah. Well, more importantly, after this, Sam says mockingly, "Okay, Sparky. And you know what? After we kill it, we can go to Disneyland!" [laughs]

G: [laughing] I hope they went to Disneyland like, after Sam kills Madison.

C: [laughing] What? Sam sits in the teacup ride, like, going in circles and crying? And all the children around him are uncomfortable about the situation, and, like, parents are like, leading them away?

G: Literally. Like, Sam needs to go to Star Wars land or whatever it's called [C laughs], and then like, just start crying in the middle of like, the Falcon ride. I have no idea about anything about Star Wars.

C: Sam needs to eat a Mickey Mouse popsicle.

G: Literally, he needs to eat the Dole whip and fucking sob over it. [C laughing]

C: Yeah, he needs to- like, Dean takes him to the Buzz Lightyear ride where, like, you shoot lasers at targets [G laughing], and it brings up bad memories for Sam, and he just starts screaming and sobbing.

G: [laughing] Noo! So true.

C: Yeah.

So yeah, and then Dean says, like, "Luckily, like, we have silver bullets and we can use them to kill werewolves." And Sam says, "Okay, well next, let's go talk to Madison, the girl who found the body."

G: Okay. So they go to talk to Madison. She's in her apartment, she's saying, like, "Oh, but I already told the police what's up," and Sam and Dean show up looking the least like police officers, like detectives, in their fucking life. They're literally just- they didn't even bother to dress up for this occasion. They literally just went with their usual clothes. They're like, "No, no, no, we just need to clarify a few things<" and they start talking over the case, blah blah blah. These scene, we find out that Madison has a neighbor named Glen who is very nice to her, and Sam and Dean probably think he's trying to hit her up. He's very timid. He has a very nice beard. Literally, his beard is fucking beautiful.

C: Also, he's wearing like, this church T-shirt. Red flag. [G laughs]

G: But his beard is so beautiful! That's all I noticed. That's literally all I noticed. Yeah, and then anyway, Glen goes out, and Madison starts talking about how Nate is like, an okay guy, he just happens to hit on her a lot. And she reveals that she knows of one enemy that Nate has, Madison's ex. Kurt is her ex and he is a bit of a stalker. Like, he showed up in her office once and then got mad at Nate for like, trying to hit on her or something and tried to beat him up, etc etc. At some point, she says, "I'm lucky I kept my job," which is such a sad thing to say. Like, it's not her fault that she has a very abusive and physically violent ex. But Sam and Dean start suspecting that Kurt is the vampire, so they ask for a name, they ask for an address, and they head out.

C: Also, this whole time Dean is, as the transcripts say, "practically salivating" over Madison. [G groans] Yeah, like, he- when Madison's like, "Oh, this Nate guy would hit on anyone, like, you know the type," and then we cut to like, Dean, like, leering at her and Sam goes like, "Yeah, I do know the type."

G: Yeah. They-

C: Yeah. They set Dean up to be like, a giant mega-creep towards her this episode so that you think that Sam’s okay.

G: The thing is, they do this thing where Dean is like, a fuckboy, right?

C: Mm-hm.

G: And Sam is like, a sad boy [C laughs]. That's the thing that they're setting up with Sam and Dean this episode. And both are equally like, so fucking annoying to watch, but like, in an extremely funny way and super entertaining in a like, "Let's laugh at these guys, aren't they fucking losers?" way.

C: Yep.

G: They're literally fucking losers.

C: They're literally fucking losers.

G: Like, both these guys are such losers, Jesus. [C laughs]

C: Yeah. Remember that time you asked, like, "If Sam or Dean approached you at a bar, like, would it work on you?" [G laughs] Like, look at how fucking terrible they are right now. They're such losers. I don't understand how they've like, ever had sex. [laughs]

G: You know what? I stand my ground that episode. Was it that episode? But I said, like, a little bit in the past, right, that like, Dean is like, the kind of guy that I would rather go for than Sam. Because I would rather like, fuck around with a fuckboy than with a sad boy [C laughing]. Like, Sam is so fucking annoying. Like, at least Dean is straightforward with his intentions. Like, there's no doubt about what he's doing. And Sam is like, "You're interesting." [C laughing] Like, fuck off!

C: God, okay, the funniest- I guess we'll get to it, but when Sam’s like, "You're clearly smart, you have a lot of good books around your house." Like- [both laughing] I would've killed him. I literally would've shot him where he stood.

G: Literally.

C: He's literally the type of guy who, when a girl invites him over, he goes to inspect her fucking bookshelves to check that she's sapiosexual enough for him. [G laughs]

G: [laughing] He literally is.

Anyway, as Sam and Dean leaves, Madison hears, like, a scuffle outside, a dog barking. And, as she peeks out, she sees Kurt outside, and he's still being a creep and still stalking her. And then they do this thing, where she like, looks, and then she like, blinks, and he's gone. So like, you're like, "Ooh, mysterious... He may or may not be the werewolf... Probably he is..." blah blah blah.

I mean, everybody knows the twist to this episode, right? Like, Madison is the werewolf. So, spoiler.

C: Yeah, I think everyone knows.

G: Yeah, but they do a pretty good job of hiding that until the moment arrives.

Anyway, they go to Kurt's apartment. They pick the lock, and they start looking around, and they don't see anything in the fridge, which is where Sam presumes the guy would keep the heart. But Dean sees something in the balcony, which is like, a giant scratch down the concrete wall. And he's like, "Oh, look at this." And on the other side of the fucking wall, we see a police officer hear a bunch of noise, so he goes to inspect it, and he gets mauled by our werewolf.

C: Hell, yeah, baby.

G: Hell, yeah. [laughs] Madison did nothing wrong.

C: Yeah, no, she literally did not.

G: She killed her annoying boss, she killed a cop, she killed her stalker ex. Like, she's fine! Let her off the hook.

C: Literally, she's fine. I do wanna know the specifics of what happened here, though, right? Like, she turns- was she like, trying to go to Kurt's to kill him and then she saw a cop on the way, and she was like, "He's gonna stop me so let's just do that first."

G: Yeah, probably.

C: Good for her.

G: I think she's like, on her way to killing Kurt at this moment.

C: Yeah. Good for her.

G: Anyway, eventually, Sam and Dean hear the noise of the gunshot from the cop, and they go down and see that he is mauled to death. And they go call 911. And their belief that Kurt is the werewolf just intensifies.

C: Are Sam and Dean still wanted by the police and the FBI currently?

G: Yeah, perhaps. I mean, definitely, right?

C: Yeah, so- why did they- I guess they could have just done an anonymous call into 911 and then left?

G: I mean, can you still do anonymous tip calls at this point in time?

C: I don't know.

G: Because, like, at that time, I assume, like, if you call from a payphone, they'll just trace back the location, but not the person, right?

C: Oh, that's true, yeah, so they probably called from a payphone.

G: But if it's like, a cell phone situation, I think you're easily traceable.

C: Mm-hm.

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah.

G: [laughs] I actually think about these things a lot, because, you know it's terrifying how easily you can be traced back to your exact location at any given point.

C: Yeah.

G: Which is why [laughs] I generally don't have a phone, when I go out.

C: Oh, really?

G: Which is a weird thing to say. Yeah, I just bring my iPad and my iPad doesn't have a SIM card.

C: Oh.

G: Yeah. I am an iPad baby, yeah.

C: How do you contact people? Like-

G: I don't. Like, my mom is very angry at me. Not very angry, but like, my mom gets frustrated at me because, like, she'll be like- I'll be like, "Okay, I'm going to the bookstore," and then I go out of the bookstore and I'm like, "I don't know where anyone is!" [laughing]

C: I mean, that's probably a good call. Like, you're making the right decision-

G: So true.

C: - but I'm a phone baby, so [G laughs] I can't.

C: They decide that they need to go check in on Madison because she might be in danger while Kurt's out here, killing people as a werewolf. And we see that when they knock on her door, Glen opens his door and is like, "Hey, what's up?" and he won't go away until they tell him that they need to talk police business in private. So yeah, he and his beautiful beard and his terrible church shirt are being creepy. [G laughs] Literally, they were like- Yeah, no, Madison's surrounded- how many creepy man does Madison have in her life? Five? Five, right? Nate, Kurt, Glen-

G: No, no, not five. Four. Four.

C: - Sam, Dean.

G: Ah, no, Sam and Dean. Yeah. So five.

C: Yeah. Right.

G: And just this episode, too.

C: Yeah. This entire episode is Madison's no good very bad day surrounded by creepy guys.

G: And death. [laughs] Let's not forget that she dies at the end of this episode.

C: Yeah, she dies at the end. I really think the point of all these creepy guys are just to make Sam look relatively better. [G groans and makes vomiting sounds]

G: I have much to say about Sam and his "You're interesting" [C screams] line later. Much to say.

C: Yeah, so they go and ask her about Kurt, and she says that "He was outside last night, like, staring at me." And Dean's like, "Hey, like, in case you're in danger, one of us should probably stay here with you in case he stops by." And she tells them where he works. He owns like, a body shop, so like, a car fix-y place.

G: Yeah. That's really threw me off. [C laughs] I did not understand what a body shop means, so I was like, "Wait. [laughs] This guy sells- what?" But yeah. He is a car mechanic, I'm assuming.

C: Yeah. So, Dean's sort of thing, I guess. And Sam- okay, so she goes off to write down the address of where he works, and while she's away, Sam tells Dean, like, “Okay, you should go find her and I'll stay here.” And Dean says, "Forget that. You go after the creepy ex, I'm gonna hang here with the hot chick." And Sam says, "Dude, why do you always get to hang out with the girls?" [laughs]

G: You know what I thought when this happened? I was like, "Sam, the reason why Dean always get to hang out with the girls is when you hang out with the girls, you always fuck them!" [laughing]

C: Yeah. [laughs] Literally.

G: Literally, every time you have hung out with a girl this entire show, they have become a romantic interest for you. Like, things are not faring well in your department in terms of creep behavior. Like, you need to calm down.

C: Yeah. Right. Do we have- what?- Lori, Sarah.

G: Yeah, Lori, Sarah, and Madison, yeah.

C: Yeah, god.

G: It's funny, too, because they do the thing- they do it more naturally this episode, than in Sarah's episode and in Lori's episode, but usually, right like, when Sam is about to have a love interest they like, put him in the spotlight and have him do the interviews and shit instead of Dean, who usually does it, which I think is incredibly funny. They do a good job of not doing that this episode, but there's still little vibes going around.

C: Yeah, okay, so Dean says, "'Cause I'm older." Um- [sighs] I- this is such a fucking stupid conversation. Like, obviously they're talking about these women like they're commodity, and it's gross, but also, this is just stupid. [laughs] Yeah, so Sam looks at him, like, so offended, and he goes like, "No, screw that. We settle this the old-fashioned way." And he, like, puts their coffee down, and he raises his fist, and you think that they're gonna punch each other, which they should [G laughs], but no, they do rock paper scissors. And Sam wins 'cause he chooses rock and Dean chooses scissors. And Sam goes, like, with a mocking voice- because he's like, a little shit this episode and it is fun when that's directed at Dean - he goes like, "Dean, always with the scissors."

G: [laughing] And then they do it again. Dean says, like, "Best of two" or "Best of three" or something, and then they do rock paper scissors again Dean does scissors again! [C laughing] What a fucking loser. Literally, he was like, "I'm gonna reverse psychology this guy so hard."

C: [laughs] Yeah.

G: And Sam was like, "You know what? I'm gonna reverse reverse psychology, man!" [both laughing]

C: Yeah, it's very fun. I think- isn't there that like, rock paper scissors trick out there that's like, "Before you start, you should mock the other person, because when they start feeling defensive, they'll scissors."

G: They do the scissors? Yeah.

C: Yeah, it feels like more of an opponent-

G: Natural form of your hand.

C: Yeah.

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah, so I think that's sort of what Sam's strategy always is. And because Dean never unclenches, he just always throws scissors. [G laughs]

G: Exactly.

C: Yeah, so, yeah, Sam wins again, and he, like, pats Dean on the shoulders, like, "Bundle up out there, alright?"

G: He's cute.

C: Yeah, it's a cute scene. He is a funny little man.

G: If you ignore the fact that they're-

C: Yeah.

G: If you ignore the fact that they're playing rock paper scissors to figure out who gets to stay with the quote, "hot chick," like, [laughs] it's cute.

C: Yeah.

G: Yeah.

G: Anyway, Sam is now spending [C starts laughing] the day [starts laughing] in Madison's house. This is the beginning of the funniest scene in the entirety of Supernatural, literally, so fucking funny.

C: [laughing] I don't we can describe it properly. Like, you guys just need watch it, honestly.

G: Literally.

C: I will never recommend watching Supernatural except for this scene. [G laughs]

G: So, Sam is like, sitting on the- I assume like, a dining table, but like, it's very small. So he's just sitting at a chair in front of a table, right? And he keeps on eyeing Madison. He keeps on looking at her. And Madison notice this, and she's like, "You want to sit on the couch?" And he's like, "No, no, no, I'm good here." And then a little bit later [C laughing], Madison comes back with a pile of clothes that she dumps on the table, except all the clothes are her, like, underwear and stuff. And she starts lifting them up and unfolding them, and Sam is like, "Okay... I'm going to go sit on the couch." And like, we pan to Madison, and she's smiling, which I thought was like, "Good for you Madison."

C: Yeah.

G: Literally, good for you.

C: Yeah, like, you think that your shitty stalker ex is out there killing people and there's like, a hot cop nearby, and you're like, "You know what? I will throw my bras all over his head." [G laughs]

G: And I mean, she tried to give him an out. She was like, "You want to sit on the couch?" and he was like, "No, no, no." And she was like, "Okay, I'm gonna fold my underwear in front of you." Good for her. Good for her.

C: Yeah.

G: Anyway, Sam is sitting on the couch. After she folds her clothes, she goes to sit beside him, and they start watching TV. And the angle at which they shoot this is also so funny. [laughing] Like, I don't know how to describe it, but like, it adds to the humor of the situation, right?

C: Mm-hm.

G: So they're sitting down, and she's watching like, a soap opera, and Sam looks at her like, "Ugh."

C: Wait, do you want to mention the Dean phone call before they watch?

G: Oh. [laughs] I literally do not care about the plot of this episode.

C: No, it's not even a plot thing.

G: No, no. Oh, yeah, Dean like, calls and is like, "So what? You're sitting on the couch, all stiff?" And then- so what does "all stiff" mean in this situation? Is it like, a-

C: I think it's "like a stiff," and a stiff is a corpse, so he's just saying "You're being useless."

G: Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. And then Sam’s like, “Oh, did you find the guy?” And then Dean's like, “No, but I figured out where he might be. So... what's she wearing?” [C groans] And Sam’s like, “Goodbye, Dean. Fuck off.” Then he hangs up.

C: No, it's just so funny- like, with both Sarah and with Maddy, it's all like, Dean's like, making the sex jokes and pushing Sam towards it, and Sam is like, "No! [laughing] I would never betray the integrity of a case [G laughing] by fucking someone involved" And then he goes and falls and gets his dick stuck in them.

G: Jesus. Yeah, anyway, like I was saying earlier, they're sitting there watching TV, and Sam’s like, “Ugh. We're watching this?” like, with his eyes, and Madison is like, "You know I saw that. I get to watch my own show, because this is my fucking television, so shut the fuck up!" [C laughs] And then we cut outside, and then [laughs] we cut inside again, and the show has ended, and Sam’s like, “Wait, so you mean these two persons got married so that they could get the inheritance-" you know, he starts narrating the plot of the telenovela. And Madison is like, "What, you're hooked now?" And Sam’s like, "No, I wouldn't say I'm hooked."

C: Wait, most importantly... [laughs]

G: Oh! Oh my god. [C laughing] He says, "What a bitch!" [C screaming]

C: Oh my god, yeah. He- [screams] I mean- he's sitting- he's trying to get with this girl, and he's like, "I think the way to her heart is to call a fictional woman a bitch. With my whole chest."

G: Literally- literally the way he says it too. Like, "What a biitch." And like, Sam!

C: Sam!

G: Come on, Sammy.

C: Come on, Sam.

G: Come on, dude.

C: Okay, so we are pulling up [G laughing] the spreadsheet, obviously.

G: How many does he have?

C: This is his second in season 2.

G: Very little in comparison, I feel.

C: Yeah.

G: How about Dean? What's Dean up to?

C: Dean's at 10. [G laughs] But oh, we haven't given him any for this episode yet. I feel like- should we just give them one for his general demeanor towards Madison?

G: Yeah, sure. Sure, sure.

C: Yeah. Okay, so we're at 11.

G: Also, did we give him anything in "Tall Tales"?

C: Ah, shit, we were going to, right? Wait, which one is "Tall Tales"?

G: I've literally forgotten. You know what? Since we missed it, let's just leave it be. Dean, you're off the hook this one time. [C sighs]

C: Is he?

G: You don't want- you don't what? [laughs] Don't you record it with, like, alongside the episode, like, you check-?

C: I do, and I remember I said that I was gonna give him a point, but I don't see one here. Maybe I accidentally put it on 2.14 instead of 2.15? What was 2.14? "Born Under a Bad Sign"?

G: No fucking idea.

C: Was Dean misogynistic in "Born Under a Bad Sign?" I don't think so.

G: I don't even know what that episode's about.

C: I think I just accidentally-

G: No! We put that in there because of the way he treats Jo, and we were very defensive, and we were like, "Dean, fuck you for treating Jo like that." [laughs]

C: Okay, then, in that case, I am going to go back and add one to "Tall Tales."

G: Literally.

C: So now Dean's at 12. [G laughs] Which is a nice, clean number. Like, two times three times two is a nice number. Alright, so...

G: Sam- Madison is, you know, they're still sitting, they're still laughing, they're still talking. And Sam says, "You know what? Can I ask you a question? It's... personal." [both laugh] And then Madison says, like, "You've seen my entire underwear collection, so yeah, go ahead." And then Sam says, "Okay. You're very... smart [C screams], clearly. Your house is full of great books."

C: [laughing] I hope he dies.

G: "You're independent." [laughs] And then she says, like, "Yeah, what's your point?" And Sam says, "What were you doing with Kurt?" as in her ex. And then Madison says, like, "Well, it's not like he introduced himself to me as like, 'I like to punch people and I'm violent and all that shit and possessive.'" And Sam’s like, “Yeah, I guess we all make mistakes," and she says, "Yeah, mine's wanted by the police." Well, guess what, baby? [laughs] Sam is also wanted by the police. [C laughs]

C: So true.

G: And then she said, like, "You want to know why I stayed with him? I was too insecure to leave." And then she says, like, you know, things happened to her in the past, and it just so happened that one day, she got mugged. And she realized that like, "Oh, I can keep feeling sorry for myself or I can like, take control of my life." And so she did, and the first thing she did was leave her ex. And apparently, after that, everything, like, every other opportunity just opened up for her. And it's wonderful! She's having a wonderful time.

C: Yeah. I really like this idea that like, quote unquote "monsterhood" can be good. Because I'm sure part of it was like, just her feeling more confident and like, physically strong because, like, she's a werewolf. Yeah, so it was good to see the positive side of monsterhood, even if this episode doesn't like, further that at all.

G: Yeah, I like this scene [laughs]. No. I like the way Madison speaks about her life experience in this scene. Because like, in a real life conversation, this is how it would also go, you know. Like, you, wouldn't like, go in too deep. Like, when she said, like, she stayed with the guy because there were other things going on, like, she didn't get into it. And you can say that she didn't get into it because it's not relevant to the plot, but, like, in real life, you meet someone and you're telling them your life story, you don't get into all the details as well. Like, you just, you know, go into surface level, and if it gets deeper, then it gets deeper, and that's what's happening this conversation. And it feels natural, even though we find out later that it's exposition. So I like that.

C: Yeah.

G: Anyway. [laughs] Now to the parts that I don't like. Sam says, "You know what? You're- you're... unusual." [both laughing] And then she's like, "Unusual like..." and then she does the thing where it's like, the symbol for crazy. And Sam’s like, “No, I mean like, unusual like impressive.” And Madison’s, like, "Oh, you think so?" And, you know, they're flirting it up. And the thing about this scene is, while watching it, I was cringing and laughing and all that. But the reason why is because I have had similar conversations with men in my life, right?

C: Yeah.

G: Like, you meet a guy for the first time, and I feel like... okay. Not to generalize, right? But I haven't really met a lot of straight men in my life. Like, that's just not the, you know, circle I go around in. And when I do [laughs], it's always very interesting. Like, I'm always like, "What a weird experience this was!" Because I feel like straight men tend to do this thing where [laughs] they assume that a woman's life is like, empty of meaning. And then they have a conversation with a woman, and it's like, a meaningful conversation, and instead of thinking, "Oh, that must mean that women do have inner lives and are interesting and have like, meaningful experiences," they just think like, "Oh, this one woman specifically has an interesting life." And I feel like that's what Sam is doing here. Like-

C: Yeah, like, "God, you're not like other girls! You're such a manic pixie dream girl! Fuck me, now!"

G: Yeah, like, he's literally manic pixie dream girl-ifying this woman. [C laughs] [laughing] And like, it reminds me of this one time- [laughing] this is so incredibly funny!

I was talking to a guy at like, a music festival situation, right? And we're just having fun, we're having a conversation. And then he, like, does this little thing where he, like, asks me out a little bit? You know, like, he's like, entering the topic. And I was like, "No, no, no, no, this is not like that at all, like, I have a girlfriend, it's not like that." Okay. Here's what he said. He said, "Wow, you are so honest and straightforward and interesting. [C laughing] If all lesbians are like that, I wish all women were just lesbians." [C screaming] [both laughing]

Sam Winchester would say that. One hundred percent. [both laughing]

C: He absolutely would. Oh, god. Who do you think he says it to?

G: [laughing] "I wish all-" I don't know. But "I wish all women were lesbians" is the funniest thing anyone has ever said to me.

C: [laughing] Yeah. Only lesbians are honest and interesting.

G: Literally. [both laughing] Which is why, while watching this episode, I literally fucking lost it when this scene came up. I was like, "Sam is literally that guy I was talking to. He's literally that guy."

C: He really, really, really is. Also, Sam makes faces like, the whole time, right? Like, he's making faces that are supposed to convey like, "Oh, this is awkward because there's so much sexual tension going on."

G: [laughing] Noo.

C: "And I have to keep smiling weirdly at you and looking away, and like, jerking my face around." And it's like- bro. Stop.

G: He's doing the Jared Padalecki smile.

C: Yes.

G: You know what I mean? Like, he has this iconic thing that he does with his face when he acts with like, his lips, or whatever. [C laughs] And it's such quintessential Sam Winchester, and it looks so fucking funny this episode.

C: Yeah. He's such a loser. Like, Madison's actress is like, getting the like, "sort of shy 'cause you sort of like this guy" faces fine. Like, she's like, doing like, little smiles and looking away. He's like, twitching up a samba in this face. Yeah. Anyway.

G: Yeah, anyway, their conversation gets cut short, thankfully [laughs], by Dean calling Sam.

C: Dean's in a strip club and that's where Kurt is, so he's followed him there. And the whole time on the phone he's like, "Oh, yeah, I'm like, totally paying attention," but what he's paying attention to is the stripper. We don't actually see like, a shot of her, we just see a shot of like, [laughs] feet and high heels. Dean foot fetish confirmed.

G: So true. You know- [laughs]

C: Yeah?

G: You know that joke they make about like, "You know what they say about men who look at women's shoes?" [laughs]

C: What is that? Oh, that they're gay?

G: [laughs] Yeah. [both laughing]

C: So true.

G: I'm actually not sure if that's the punchline of that joke. I just have heard the first part of the joke. But I'm assuming it's a gay joke, because everything is a gay joke.

C: Yeah, yeah. Also, he hands her a $1, and yeah, I hope that he brought more than that $1.

C: Now we're back to Madison's place. And she tells Sam like, "Okay, I'm gonna go like, to bed now." And I think she's trying to get him to come with her, but [laughs] Sam’s like, sitting there like, stiff, like, hands on his thighs, looking forward, goes like, "Okay, yeah, well, I'll be here." [laughs] And-

G: Literally, Sam is like, "I cannot ruin the integrity of our investigation. [C laughs] I must sit here and pine in silence." He's such a nerd.

C: Sam says, like, "If you hear anything, and if you wake up, you should just call out," and he looks so awkward, and she just says, "Okay." And she just like, goes into her bedroom as Sam sighs a sigh of sexual frustration.

So Sam’s just sitting there, while Dean is outside of Kurt’s. And he starts hearing glass shattering upstairs, and the lights are off, so he runs up and he sees Kurt, like, super dead, super torn up and bitten. And a woman with dark hair over him. And she turns towards him and hisses, and it's Madison! Yes. Go girl.

G: Noo! It's Madison.

C: It is. Sorry, but also like, yes, kill.

G: Literally. kill this guy.

C: Yeah, so she like, runs Dean into like, a wall and he cuts her arm with his knife. And then she like, jumps out the window.

G: Yeah. So back in the apartment, Dean is now awake because he, like, fell unconscious when Madison knocked him over. And he's calling Sam and he's saying, like, “The werewolf knocked me out. It's Madison.” And Sam’s like, “No, it's not Madison, she was here the whole night," and he takes a peek at the bedroom, and she is there, and she looks like she hasn't moved. And Dean says, "Check her right arm below her elbow. I nicked her with a silver knife." So Sam goes to check, and Madison wakes up, and she's like, "Oh, where the hell are my pajamas?" And then she's like, "Sam?"

C: This is such a fucking terrible situation for her to be in, and he's just gonna make it so much worse.

G: I know!

Yeah, she's like, "I don't know what's going on. What's going on, Sam?" And then Sam, like, notices the nick on her arm, and he goes to the door. And Madison follows her and asks, "Where are you going?" And Sam is seen locking up the door. And then he says, "I'm not going anywhere."

C: God.

G: It's terrifying, honestly.

C: Right! She doesn't remember anything. She wakes up without her clothes on. There's this random guy in her house that she barely knows, and he's locking her in. Like, oh, god. Like, I think that sometimes it's okay to let werewolves kill people, even if you think they're doing it on purpose, just to prevent being creepy to women. [G laughs]

G: Literally. Shi-Long Lang would never do this. [both laughing] No bringing him up. No bringing him up.

C: We cut to Madison like, tied up in a chair with Sam standing in front of her, like, waving his fucking gun around. Jesus Christ. So yeah, she's crying and clearly scared, and she says, like, "I can't believe I fell for the whole like, 'I'm a cop' thing," and Sam says, "Well, I guess, neither of us are who we said we were, huh?" And yeah, she tells him like, "You're sick. You're imagining things. Monsters don't exist." And he keeps telling her to stop pretending, but she just keeps insisting that like, "I'm not a werewolf, like, that's not a thing. You know that." Sam’s like, “No,” and he, like, points to her scratch, like, I think, with his gun, and he's like, “Where did that come from?” And yeah, she just keeps crying and saying like, ”Please stop doing this. Don't do something you're going to regret.”

This is just such a bad situation. Sorry, Madison. I can't believe you sleep with this guy after this.

G: I know!

C: Like, I knew that they were going to sleep together, but I thought it was gonna happen like, last night, you know?

G: Before. Yeah.

C: Yeah, I was certain that it would have to happen before 'cause I was like, "It would be such a fucked up power dynamic if they slept together during a time when Sam knows he's gonna have to kill her or something." Which I guess isn't the situation, but it's still "they slept together after Sam like, made her probably terrified that he was gonna rape for like, several hours," so. Love that.

Yeah, so there's knocking at the door, and Dean comes in, being a little shit. And he's like, "Oh, how are you doing? My head feels great, by the way." 'Cause he thinks that she remembers throwing him across the room. And Sam pulls Dean into another room to talk and says, like, "I think that she has no idea what I'm talking about. Like, she doesn't really know she's changing." They really put the woman who doesn't know she's a ghost and the woman who doesn't know she's a werewolf back to back. [both laugh]

G: Yeah, for real.

C: Like, space it out a little bit!

Dean- okay, so Sam says, like, "Maybe when the creature takes over, she blacks out." And Dean says, "Like a really hot Incredible Hulk." Okay.

G: Boo.

C: She's tied up and crying!

G: I mean, the Incredible Hulk is already hot.

C: [laughs] Yeah. First, that.

G: Number one. Number two, yes, she is tied up and crying. Like, come on, Dean.

C: This is not the time. I'm going to start straight Dean truthing because he said this. [G laughs] He doesn't think the Hulk is hot, and he's not attracted to men.

Yeah, he's like, "She killed her boss and her ex. Like, that doesn't sound like she was just being unconscious." And Sam’s like, “Yeah, but what if it was just some animal part of her brain that saw those guys and the cop as threats?” So true. And he tells Dean like, that there was something in her eyes.

G: [laughing] "What are you? The dog whisperer now?"

C: Oh, yeah, he says, "Are you the dog whisperer now?" Okay. Alright. Yeah, so-

G: Do you know the TV show The Ghost Whisperer?

C: No. I thought "whisperer" was used, for like, animals.

G: That was one of the very first- No, there's a TV show called Ghost Whisperer and it is like, probably the first TV show that my mom watched where I'm also allowed to watch it. And it's in the CW. 2005.

C: [laughing] Oh my god, no.

G: No it's not, it's not. ABC Studios. CBS. It's CBS.

C: Aw, just like Elementary!

G: And it's also 2005. It ran for five seasons and I think it whet my palette for supernatural-related stuff in my youth. Yeah. [laughs]

C: Yeah, that makes sense.

G: This is pre everything. Like, pre me watching TV shows by myself, I watched this with my mom. I highly recommend it, and by highly recommend it, I mean I don't remember anything, so if you watch it and it's bad, don't blame me. [C laughs]

C: Yeah, so-

G: But- wait. I said that because, when I was younger, I thought The Dog Whisperer was a reference to The Ghost Whisperer. [laughing] So like, I thought the TV show The Dog Whisperer was based on the- or like a spinoff of the TV show Ghost Whisperer [C laughing]. Yeah, which is incredibly funny. Like, they were like, "Step one: talk to ghosts. [both] Step two: talk to dogs."

C: Correct of them. Is Sam good with dogs?

G: I mean, he has a whole thing, where he, like, took care of a dog.

C: Well, first, he ran it over.

G: No, like, when he was 15, he took in a dog when he ran away.

C: Aww.

G: And then, when season 8 happened, [both laughing] he ran over a dog. The duality of man.

C: And that's character development. God. I can't believe- he ran over a fucking dog, and Amelia was like-

G: But he took it to vet!

C: Yeah, he took it to the vet, and Amelia was like, "You have to take in this dog now. I can't believe you're just gonna abandon this dog. There are no dog shelters for people who don't run over dogs to take in dogs. It's yours now." And then they stumbled into a relationship.

G: So true.

C: Women who sleep with Sam are so interesting. [laughs]

G: Like, as Sam said, they're... [both] unusual. They're... impressive. [laughs] Like.

C: Yeah, they are impressive. I could never.

So, yeah, Sam says that he sees something in Madison's eyes, like, she has no control over what she's doing. Dean is not having any of this because Dean's a dick. And he says, like, "Since she can't control it, even if she's telling the truth, it doesn't matter." Sam says like, “I'm not going to kill her if she has no idea what's happening.” And Dean says, "Sam, she's a monster. And you're feeling sorry for her?" Fuck off, Dean. And Sam says-

G: [laughing] Sam says, [both] "Maybe I understand her." [both laughing]

C: I just feel it's been a while since we've gotten mirrors that are this unsubtle, you know.

G: Sam literally said "She's just like me for real!" [both laughing]

C: Yeah. And, okay, I will say that for this episode, despite how incredibly unsubtle they are about the situation, I think that there are some good mirror moments that are actually touching or thought-provoking, but also, this line was just very funny. [laughs]

G: Yeah. I did not think that way of the thought-provoking nature of the parallels. I just thought it was like, so in your face, so I was like, "Eh, whatever." But I can see how it can be like, thought-provoking, especially like, right at the end. Yeah. We'll get to it when we get.

C: Sam goes like, “Look. Like, maybe there's some way that we can cure her 'cause Dad theorized that you could cure the werewolf if you kill the werewolf who bit you." So they're like, "Okay, we have to figure that out, then." And Sam realizes like, "Oh, I think I know who it was." So he goes back and asks Madison, who's still like, tied up and fucking miserable, when she was mugged. And she says it was about a month ago, she didn't see the guy. Sam asked if he bit her, and she says, "How did you know that?" So she says that it happened on the back of her neck. And Sam’s like, “Oh, don't worry, like, I'm putting my gun down, and I'm gonna go and check," but he doesn't even tell her he's gonna go and check, he just goes over and starts like, caressing her hair. Like, alright, dude. So yeah, we see a pretty bad bite, and Dean says, like, "Oh, that's just a love bite. Believe me, that could have been a lot worse." Like, nobody asked, Dean! Like, shut the fuck up! [G laughs]

G: Literally, Dean should just always shut the fuck up. Like, I think he's so- like, at the end of the episode when he's like, crying and shit [C laughs], like, it's good because he's silent. [both laughing] Literally, Dean should just be quiet all the time and have a single man tear fall down from his face and show emotion without a trace.

C: Yeah. Deans were not made to speak, they were made to be spoken to. [G laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: Yep. And Maddy reveals that this happened near Hunter's Point, where all the dead sex workers had turned up.

G: Yeah, so Sam and Dean go back to their conversation, and Dean says that they can't be sure that the werewolf that bit her is gonna be at Hunter's Point but Sam’s like, “It's worth a shot. It's the lunar cycle, like, the time's right. We need to find something to cure this woman." Eventually, they do agree that Dean is gonna go out and hunt for the werewolf while Sam stays and looks after Madison. Except Madison is likely also going to turn tonight, so Dean makes Sam promise that if something bad happens and she does turn, and worse comes to worst, Sam is gonna shoot her.

C: I love how they're like, "If she breaks her restraints" - which are one little rope around her hands - "you gotta kill her." [G laughs] Like, do they not have more rope? Or anything?

G: Yeah, anyway, Sam goes out and joins Madison again. And Madison is saying like, "Oh, please just untie me. Just let me go." And then Sam sits in front of her and says, "I know you're scared, and I know you don't believe me, but I'm doing this to help you. And when this is over, and when this all passes, I'm just going to be a bad memory, and you're going to live your life, and you'll never see me again, and you're going to be fine." And yeah, Madison is still crying-

C: This is the least reassuring thing ever.

G: Yeah, at some point he says, "The odds are against us, and it's probably not gonna work, and you're probably gonna fucking die because [both laughing] I'm gonna fucking kill you." Like, Sam! Sam!

C: Also, the like, "I know you don't believe me, but I'm doing this to help you" is like the creepiest shit ever-

G: Yeah, it sounds bad. It sounds bad.

C: - if you don't think werewolves are real and this guy tied you up.

G: Sam, have we considered that this is a bad look? [laughs] Have we considered this, Sam Winchester?

C: Oh, boy. Yeah, also Sam’s like, crying at this too. Like, shut up, Sam. This isn't about you. [laughs]

G: Literally hold in your tears, Sam. It's not about you.

C: Yeah. So we cut to Hunter's Point, and there's a woman who the transcript says is quote unquote "clearly a hooker." So yeah, they got the shoes from the box or whatever. Yeah, so- [sighs] again, I have a problem with Supernatural styling all their sex workers as like, fake blondes wearing like, fur coats. Whatever. Anyway, so she like, hears a howl, and she's nervous. Meanwhile, we see Madison's fingernails go into claws and she starts having fangs. And, obviously, she breaks loose because, like, it's one like, measly rope.

G: Yeah.

C: And she starts attacking Sam. Meanwhile, the werewolf is chasing down this woman. And Sam is like- he traps Madison inside of a room by like, moving a cabinet in front of it. Which works the whole night, so I don't see why this couldn't just be the long-term solution. And yah, so the world's about to kill the woman at Hunter's Point and then Dean goes like, "Hey!" and then shoots him three times in the chest. And it's revealed that the werewolf is Glen, still wearing his church shirt.

G: Still wearing his fabulous beard.

C: And the woman is obviously scared out of her mind and runs away. And Dean, who just doesn't know how to fucking shut up, yells like, after her, like, "Hey, don't mention it!" Like, okay, she was about to get killed by a fucking guy with fangs, and then another guy showed up with a gun. Like, I'm not gonna trust the guy with the gun either. Like, I'm running! [laughs]

G: Yeah, I'm just gonna run. Dude! Yeah, Dean's annoying.

C: Yeah.

G: [laughing] But we've already established this.

C: Uh-huh. So Glen is like, bloody and like, he starts like, turning back to his like, human form. And he's like, freaked out. He's going like, "Oh my god, where am I?" And he, like, sees that he's like, super dying, and he's going like, "Oh my god, help me. Help me, please." And yeah, Dean does not help, and he goes like, "Alright, just take it easy," and Glen just dies.

G: Yeah.

C: So this implies that every single werewolf does not remember what's up when they wake up.

G: No, I think it depends.

C: Okay.

G: 'Cause, like, I mean, we see later on there's werewolves that are literally just living their werewolf lives, right?

C: I mean, I don't know. I haven't them.

G: Oh, yeah. [laughs] Yeah, I literally forgot. But, you know, we have a beloved main character who's a werewolf. Do you know who?

C: Yeah. Yeah, does Garth remember what he does when he's in werewolf form?

G: I think so, yeah. I think he does, yeah.

C: Okay.

G: So, go Garth.

C: It pissed me off that Garth gets to live and that they find a werewolf cure for Claire in season 12, but here, they're just like, "It's too much work for us to build like, a reinforced concrete room for you to go into a few days a month, so let's just shoot you."

G: Yeah. I mean-

C: I feel like of all the creatures in Supernatural, werewolves are like, the thing with like, the easiest non-murder solution.

G: Yeah, 'cause it's not like they're like, all around, you know, all the time, quote "monsters." They only literally just show up at night at certain days of the month.

C: Yeah, like, they don't need to kill people to survive, I think is like, the main reason why- and they like, generally are in control of their faculties, except for occasionally. So like, it's dumb.

G: Yeah, vampires are like that too, I guess.

C: Yeah.

G: But those are like, the two main ones that are like, yeah. I guess at this point- Oh, yeah, because it's not like she's killing the guys to like, eat their heart and like etc etc. She's just hurting them because they're- because she's afraid of them.

C: Yeah.

G: Although there is a thing in later seasons when we hang out with Garth's family where they eat like, hearts of like, an animal, I think? Like, animal insides. I think at some point, they eat gizzard, which, like, you should literally just always eat that, though. [laughs] And I find it so funny that they were like, "Oh, we're eating gizzards," and it's like, "Literally, I ate gizzards last night." Like, come on, dude.

C: Yeah, yeah. I think the werewolf lore is pretty inconsistent. Because I'm pretty Madison's totally fine with like, eating normal food.

G: Yeah.

C: I feel like she would have mentioned if she was only capable of eating animal hearts now.

G: Yeah, she's going through her Santa Clarita diet phase [laughs].

C: Exactly.

So, yeah, okay. So some werewolves don't remember, but-

G: Maybe some do, and maybe it's complicated. I don't know. We'll get into it when we get into it in future episodes.

C: Uh-huh.

I just feel like with werewolves, it really rubs me the wrong way when like, they get killed because I feel like there's like, pretty clear mental health parallels to what the situation is, and yeah, I don't know. Eugh. Whatever. I have nothing more to say, just that I'm annoyed.

G: I think the most vile time that the Winchesters killed werewolves is- oh, no, these are vampires, actually. Like, there's just a couple of vampires like, drinking blood bags.

C: Oh, yeah, in "Last Holiday."

G: And then they just hop in and it's like, "Let's kill these vampires!" and it's like, come on, dude. Like, they don't even acknowledge that one as like, "Maybe this is wrong. Maybe we shouldn't be doing this." Like, when the technology that they had that allowed them to do that vanished, they were like, "Aw, man! What a waste!" [both laugh] And it's like, come on. You literally just killed innocent vampires, dude.

C: Yeah.

G: But yeah. Anyway, the next day, Madison wakes up. And she's in the room that Sam locked her in. And Sam opens the door and he says, like, "It should be over now, and you'll never see me again."

C: Also, there's a cut on his cheek. There's a cut on his cheek. It looks really good.

G: Yeah, there's a cut on his cheek. Yeah, there's a cut on his cheek. He says, "You'll never see me again," and Madison looks around, and the entire room is scratched up to fucking death. And this is when she realizes that like, "Oh, yeah, I do turn. And I am a werewolf, probably." And when she turns back to look at Sam again [C laughing], he's gone, like a ghost. He's literally gone. It's so annoying that Sam is like, "You'll never see me again." Like, first, this is not about you, Sam. Shut the fuck up. Second of all, like, stop being so dramatic! [laughs] This woman is having a very bad no good day, and you're sitting here like, "Hngh. You'll never... see me again." It's like, Sam, now is not the time for drama.

C: Sam’s just like that.

C: So we're out the car outside where Sam and Dean are like, staking out Madison's place. And Dean says, like, "it was sort of sad, actually, because Glenn had no clue what was going on." [G starts laughing]

G: Sorry, sorry.

C: I made promises that I intend to keep. [G laughing] Okay, he asks, "Why do you think he turned Madison instead of killing her?" Sam says, like, "Well, he seemed to have a thing for her." And Dean says, "Maybe his primal instinct did too. Maybe he was [sighs] looking for a little hot breeding action." [heavy breathing]

G: So true. [laughing]

C: So- [heavy breathing] yeah. So.

G: Moments in Supernatural that needs to be quoted without context. [C laughs]

C: Context barely helps.

So Dean goes like, "So, speaking of Madison..." And Sam goes like, “Ugh, whatever.” And Dean goes, like, "Don't 'whatever' me. You liked her! Like, maybe..." And Sam goes like, "Dean. No. She thought I was like, absolutely off the shits." And Dean says, like, "Well, you saved her life." [sighs] Right, you've talked about the dynamic of like, sleeping with someone whose life you just saved, right? Like, it's not-

G: Yeah.

C: It's not good. Right, so Sam says like, “She doesn't know that," and then Maddy appears at their window, and she- You know this episode is written by Sera Gamble because Maddy, at some moments, is clearly part of the Andreaverse. [both laugh] She just found out she was a werewolf, she was tied up and terrified and crying for hours-

G: She found out that she killed at least two people that she knows personally.

C: Three people including- yeah, and then a cop.

G: No, no, she knows personally- yeah. And a cop. [laughs] The cop's fine. [laughing]

C: Yeah. The cop takes one off, actually, so she really only killed one person, like, sins-wise.

G: [laughing] Literally.

C: Yeah, but she appears at the window. She's doing great. She's perky, she's like, super down to befriend these guys. She's like, "OMG, hi! Like, your car is kind of conspicuous. Like, why are you still here?" And they say, :Well, we just have to stay here to make sure that you don't turn tonight." Dean says, "So, you know, we're lurking." [laughs] So true. And Maddy's like, "I know that you guys just tied me up and made me cry for hours, but like, why don't we all hang out together, like, in my apartment?"

G: And they literally do.

C: The last time that happened, that did not go well for you, Maddy. Also, just- you know that if you do end up turning tonight and they're inside your apartment, they'll shoot you, right? Like- [laughs]

G: I mean, it's just. It makes sense that she would let them in, but for me, it doesn't make sense that she would be this friendly. Like, I think this is a time in your life where you would be in distress like never you've seen before, you know?

C: Yeah.

G: So like, the fact that she's like, just like how she was at the beginning of the episode is disconcerting.

C: Yeah.

G: They agree that they're all gonna hang out together until sunrise the next day, and they hang out. At some point [laughs], Maddy and Sam are like, sitting across each other, just staring into each other's souls. [both laughing] And Dean brings out a gun and puts it on the table, and they look at Dean, and Dean's like, "No, just continue what you're doing." And then they continue looking into each other's souls, like, what the fuck. Couldn't they have had like, a nice conversation at this point? Or like- why are they not talking? Like, just have a conversation about how nervous you are and how like, scared you are, and how much you feel guilty about potentially having murdered all those people, like, you know?

C: Yeah, because when Madison talks about that, like, when she lets them in, all she says, is like, "You were telling the truth. What you did, it was to help me." Like, the point-

G: This is not about them!

C: The point is to validate them for tying her up and scaring the shit out them!

G: [groans] This is not about Sam and Dean. This is about Maddy. And you are not giving her anything.

C: Oh my god.

G: Yeah. Anyway, at some point, the sun rises. [both laughing]

C: Can we make this shot the image for our episode?

G: [laughing] Yes. Literally, this is the image.

C: Do you want to describe it?

G: Wait. I'm gonna pull up the screenshot that you sent. [both laughing]

So it's Sam, Maddy, and Dean standing next to each other as they look out of the window and we see like, the reflection of a house where the sun is coming up, like, up the roof of the house. And it looks so fucking ridiculous. It looks like a very bad YA novel cover.

C: Yes.

G: Like, extremely bad. And it's extremely funny.

C: Yeah, it's clearly, like, a bad romance where she has to pick between these two men. [G laughs] And like, Dean's like, her long lost like, fiance who like, became a werewolf and also got lost at sea, and like, Sam's her current boyfriend, and she's right where Dean left her.

G: [laughs] Literally. And, obviously, she ends up with Sam at the end. Like, it's that kind of YA novel. But it's extremely funny.

C: [laughs] Yeah.

G: Anyway, Maddy is very happy that the thing worked, and she hugs Sam, and she's like, "Thank you so much!" And Sam’s like, “Oh- oh,” and then hugs her fully. And, you know, Dean is being an asshole in the back and being like [clears throat repeatedly]. And then Maddy's like, "Oh, heh-heh, thank you" to Dean. And Dean's like, "Okay. I'm going to go back to the hotel and watch some pay-per-view and something else. Bye-bye!" And he heads out.

C: Is pay-per-view just porn?

G: No.

C: Okay.

G: You can watch like, sports on pay-per-view. Do you think Dean is the type of guy to watch sports, though?

C: No.

G: Well, he watches wrestling. We know this for a fact.

C: Right. Which is basically porn.

G: Which is the gayest sport [laughs], yeah. So yeah. Good for him.

C: I guess I assumed he was saying this so he would sound like a sleaze so Sam would look better. And also as a, like, "Since I'm going to be watching porn in the motel, Sam can't come back for several hours!" You know?

G: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Sam- [laughs]

C: Wait, did you mention Dean's fist-pump as he goes?

G: Yeah, yeah, and then Dean fist-pumps before he heads out. Which is like, so weird. I don't know, it's just so incredibly weird. But Maddy is standing there like, "Oh, he thinks he's so funny." [laughs] No, she says, "He thinks he's so smooth," and Sam’s like, “He means well, but..." And Madison’s like, “Oh, he means well, but he thinks you're gonna get laid, huh?" And Sam is like, "Look, after everything that happened," and Madison's like, "Yeah, after everything that happened, we can't possibly hook up now, right?" And Sam’s like, "Yeah, like, it's just, it's not a good look." [C laughing] And then they look at each other for a long period of time, and lunged at each other! And they started kissing and fucking [C laughing]. They head to her bed, they start fucking there. Crystal sent me some very choice screenshots from this scene. And then that's all that happens.

This scene was so incredibly funny to me because there's just so much kissing.

C: Yeah.

G: Like, why are they- at any single moment, they're kissing. And it's like, when Dean was with Cassie, right, like they kissed, and then they did other things.

C: That was a decently-shot sex scene. The Cassie one was a decently-shot sex scene, it wasn't like, gratuitous. We got the general gist of what was going on, and they seemed to like, be into each other.

G: Yeah.

C: She went for his nipple- very important. This is just like, 5 million different shots of mashing their mouths together at different angles. Like, I don't even know if they're kissing. They just look like they're bumping their faces together.

G: Yeah. There's a lot of shots of like, hands going down a back, you know. Shit like that.

C: It's so long.

G: Anyway, at some point I realized that she's gonna turn after they have sex, and I was like, "Oh my god, is Sam gonna chase after her with his dick out?" [C laughs]

C: Okay, how long was the sex scene? I wish I timed it. Because I remember like, sitting there for so long, being like, "How is this still going?" And I checked, and there were eight minutes left in the episode, and I was like, "Literally, if the rest of these eight minutes were just more kissing scenes at different angles, I would not even be surprised at this point."

G: [laughs] No, I don't think it's that long. I think it has a decent duration, as a sex scene. It's just the way they shot it, it was like, quite funny. I don't know. I thought it was funny because it really was just like, so much kissing at all times. Like, at some point you're like, "They're not even having sex, they're just kissing while naked." So true, though.

C: Yeah.

G: Eventually, they're like, asleep on the bed, and Sam is like, lying down, and Maddy is right beside him, like, on his arm and stuff.

C: Yeah, and you know how they always have a specific blanket setup so that you don't see anything untoward on PG TV?

G: Yeah.

C: it's so funny because okay, usually they it at chest level, but here, Maddy is on her side so she can cover up her boobs. And the blanket's at hip level, and Sam’s hand is literally on the blanket like he's pulling it up, like he's holding it above his dick. [laughs] Good for him.

G: This is what I'm wondering. When Maddy turned, was she naked?

C: Right, because when we see her again she's wearing like, a shirt that doesn't seem to fit her-

G: Yeah.

C: So I feel like, once she turned back, she was like, naked, which is like, a terrifying position to be in.

G: Yeah. Anyway, Sam wakes up and he starts- he sees Maddy like, turned and in the window, about to jump out, and he chases after her with his dick out [both laugh], but he's not able to get her. And he dresses up, goes to the motel room Dean is staying in, knocks the shit out of it, and goes, "Dean. She... she turned." And she did.

C: Yep.

C: So they exit the motel, and Sam says that he called Bobby, and he doesn't know anything except that it's common knowledge in the lore that John's theory is absolute bullshit. [laughs]

G: Yeah. They literally should have just consulted Bobby from the ge- go.

C: Yeah. So yeah, killing the werewolf who turned you does nothing and everyone says it's impossible to reverse this. Dean is like, "How come she didn't turn-"

G: Wait. In the transcript, it says that "while this is happening, Sam and Dean are quietly coming down the steps of the Chinese Sea Motel."

C: Oh god, is that the name of the motel?

G: It's West Philippine Sea! [laughs] That's my hot take of the day, and by hot take, I mean political opinion.

C: Yeah, you're right.

G: It's not South China Sea, it's West Philippine Sea. Boo!

C: Yeah, you're right, I agree.

G: We should rename this motel to West Philippine Sea. [laughs]

C: Correct. We will call them after this.

So Dean was like, "How come she didn't turn when we were with her?" And that's a very good question, and the fact that they don't go down that alley-

G: They answer it.

C: Do they say that she has to be asleep?

G: Yeah.

C: Okay. Drink coffee for a few days! Like, you don't have to kill her!

G: Yeah, I mean, I think really, the "lock her in a room for a couple of days of the month" make sense.

C: Yeah. And the sleep thing, like, I don't know. It's so- also like, okay, and you only turn at night, right? You don't turn during the day.

G: Yeah. So just be nocturnal.

C: Yeah, just like, have her work, like, the night shifts. Like, she can switch careers. Like, it's gonna be hard, but it's better than dying!

G: Yeah. Literally.

C: It's just- there's so many points in this episode where they bring up a potential-

G: - solution, and it's just, "No, no, no."

C: - "Nah, it's too hard."

G: [laughing] Imagine if they were like, "Maddy, the solution to your lycanthropy is that you should become a worker of the night shift," and she's like, "Nah, I'd rather die." [both laughing]

C: Yeah, yeah, that would be very good. I just- we'll get to it later, when they're like, "We tried everything!" And what they did was read a book for two hours [laughs].

G: Yeah, like, they literally called Bobby, and that's all they did.

C: Yeah, they were like, "We've consulted every source!" Every source about werewolves? In the entire world? From every culture? [laughs] You did that?

G: "From all societies and cultures. [C laughs] And we found nothing." Like, okay Dean.

C: Oh my god. I'm so fucking sick of these guys. They just didn't want to put the effort in.

G: They literally didn't want to put the effort in. Like, that's for real.

C: Yeah.

So Sam goes, like, “We have to find some way to help her, like, there's gotta be some legend that we missed.” And Dean’s like, "Well, don't you think someone we know would've known it then?" You know two people, Dean.

G: Yeah, it's just- I mean, we've gotten into it, but this entire conversation is so fucking annoying. Yeah, Dean is just so convinced that she needs to die.

C: Right.

G: And Sam is so convinced that they need to find a cure. And I wish they just stuck it out with Sam a little bit longer.

C: Uh-huh. Yeah, 'cause I feel like the point is like, "Oh, look how sad Sam is against the inevitability that a monster is a monster." Literally just put her in the basement. Like, it's not that hard.

G: Literally, at some point, Dean says, like, "She's a sweet girl, but inside her there's something-" and Sam says, "Evil?" And Dean's like, "Yeah." And Sam says, like, "That's what they say about me, Dean. But you won't kill me. But her? You're just going to blow her away?" And like, there is truth to that, right?

C: Yeah.

G: Like, with Sam, it's always like, "It's complex, it's gray areas, it's complicated." And, to be fair, like, Sam hasn't really done anything wrong at this point, so I get it. Like, he hasn't murdered anyone of his own volition at this point, aside from when he was possessed, but like, that's not really him. But you can argue the same thing-

C: Yeah, this isn't really Maddy.

G: - about Maddy. Like, it's not her. [sighs] Let's just proceed. And then maybe we can talk about it when we're talking about our final thoughts of the episode.

C: Yeah, okay.

So yeah, the conversation that you said happened-

G: And the Impala.

C: Yeah, I think, which is a good way to establish how like, later on, Maddy's sort of the Sam and Sam's sort of the Dean of the situation. Like, 'cause "Born Under a Bad Sign" happened pretty recently. Yeah, so they get a call from Maddy, and she's in a phone booth, and she's wearing like, this shirt that doesn't fit her, so we assume that, like, she woke up naked and had to find clothes, which sucks. And yeah, she says, like, "I don't know where I am." And she tells Sam the street signs nearby, and they go to get her.

G: So eventually, they arrive at Madison's apartment again, and Madison is saying that she doesn't remember anything and and she probably killed someone last night. And Dean literally is like, "Yeah." [laughs] No, he says, "There's no way to know yet." And then Madison is like, "Is there anything that we can do to make me stop and to make it go away?" And this is what we were saying earlier, like, Sam’s like, “We'll find a way, we'll find a way." And Dean's like, "We searched everything! We did everything we could!" and they literally did not.

C: [laughs] They called one guy.

G: They literally called one guy. And then at some point, like, Sam stands up out of frustration and walks away. And then Dean says, like, "We could lock you up at night, but you'll probably escape." Like, then do a better job at locking her up!

C: This is like, the fucking cheapest excuse ever. Like, "Oh, you got away last time when we used one piece of rope to tie you, and also you didn't even kill anyone last time you escaped your ropes 'cause Sam just put a cabinet in front of your door." [rusty beeping sounds]

G: What's that?

C: Oh. It's the fire alarm! [G laughing]

G: Okay, now that your alarm has stopped, where are we in the episode?

C: Oh, yeah, Dean was saying, like, "Oh, we could tie you up, but you'll escape!"

G: Yeah. Madison realizes the situation that she's in, and that there's no solution other than [whispered] death! So she picks up the gun and starts forcing it on Sam, and starts saying like, "I need you to do it. Help me, Sam. I want you to do it. I want it to be you." And, obviously, like, Sam is very much upset by this. Like, he doesn't want to shoot this girl. And they keep on doing this thing where-

C: Yeah, very strong parallels to "Born Under a Bad Sign."

G: Yeah, like, Madison is saying like, "I don't want to die, but I don't want to live like this too. Like, this is the way that you can save me." Blah blah blah. But, you know, like you said earlier, there's like, some parallels to like, mental health blah blah blah, with the werewolf thing. And I don't think it's that straightforward, but this scene really did feel like, just like, a depression suicide situation, and it made me feel uncomfortable. But I get what they were going for.

C: Don't love it, right.

And, obviously, the use of the word "save" is very loaded because it's, you know, the Dean and Sam word for-

G: Yeah.

C: Oh, god. It just pisses me off so much that like, Sam points out Dean is gonna do anything to try to save him, but he's like, "Eh, I don't want to put a cabinet in front of Maddy's door sometimes, so let's just kill her."

G: Yeah. Anyway, Dean walks over to Maddy and takes the gun from her, the implication being like, "I'll do the shooting. Sam, you can leave." So Sam walks to the other room, and he's crying now, and we get like, a lot of the iconic shots from this episode from this scene onwards.

C: Yep.

G: [laughing] Unfortunately, we will not be using any of them for the cover, because we have already established that the sunrising cover YA novel is what we're going for. [C laughs] But Dean goes up to Sam and says, "I'm sorry." And Sam says, "No, you're right. She's right." And Dean says, "You don't have to do this. I'll do it for you. I got this one, I'll do it." And Sam says, "No, she asked me to do it, so I will." He takes the gun, goes to the room, and we see his crying face. And then we pan to Dean, who has one single tear falling down his face [C laughs]. And we hear the shot. Dean flinches, and the episode ends.

C: Yeah. It was a good move to end like, right on the gunshot.

G: Yeah. I really like the fact that Dean took the gun. I like the fact that he was like, "This doesn't have to be your responsibility. This can be on me." Because it's one of those things, right, where like, Dean, at this point, is still, like, he had his entire life protecting Sam. And he's trying to protect Sam from this trauma of killing this girl. Or at least like, shoulder some of the burden of it. And I like that Sam says, basically, like, "I don't need your protection from this one, because no matter what, it's still going to be miserable for me anyway, so might as well be the one who does it." The fact that Dean volunteered got to me. This is what I was saying earlier, that like, there's some scenes in this episode that really did evoke some emotions out of me. It's this scene, when Dean took the gun. I was like, "Oh, okay, I get it."

C: Well, I didn't give a shit about that scene [both laughing], but, good for you. The main thing I just liked were the "Born Under a Bad Sign" parallels.

G: Parallels, yeah.

C: And just, Sam like, really pointing out Dean's hypocrisy in being down to kill any monster except for Sam. What I was really pissed about is how like, this whole ending is first, all of about Sam and all about Dean. Like, when Sam leaves the room, we should have stayed on Maddy for at least a second, you know, before we went Sam, like, sobbing?

G: Yeah! Like, when Dean goes out, we should have stayed on Maddy. 'Cause the whole time, she's like, trying to keep a straight face. Like, I would have wanted her to see like, actually crumple, you know?

C: Yeah.

G: Her face to actually be like, "Oh, shit, she's sobbing now."

C: Yeah. But I guess they don't want to do that, because they don't want you to-

G: Care about her?

C: - question the necessity of her death. The unnecessary necessity of her death. And also, I think it's because in this like, "Born Under a Bad Sign" situation, Sam is the Dean and Maddy is the Sam, and this whole season they've proved that-

G: They care about Dean, yeah.

C: - the person that they're more interested- yeah, they're more interested in the like, psychology of the person who has to kill the monster, like, over the psychology of the person who fears they're becoming the monster and wants to die to like, prevent further harm. And that annoys me because I think that the Sams of this world deserve more time on screen.

G: Yeah. So overall, the entire episode, what's your valence? Positive, negative..

C: I [laughs] had a really good time watching the earlier bits that were hilarious [G laughs]. I think that the ending is quite powerful, just the like, cutting to credits on the gunshot, it was just a good call, because I feel like a lot of episodes like this, they would try to have a wrap-up scene, where they like, make fun of the situation or make light of the situation, so-

G: Yeah, yeah, like Dean driving off and being like, "Isn't it so funny that you fucked a werewolf?" [laughing]

C: Yeah, exactly! I can imagine that. Jesus. Right, so those were the good bits, but that is all heavily overshadowed by how annoyed I am about how unnecessary it was to kill her.

G: I would say this episode is, at the beginning, so bad it's good.

C: [laughs] Yeah.

G: It's so bad it turns right around to being the most entertaining thing I've ever seen in this podcast. It was genuinely hilarious. And then towards the end it's like, you know, the other shoe is dropping and you're like, "Oh, okay." It felt like they're trying to make points and like, some of the points hit, but the other points are like, "Ugh, whatever. Who cares?" So yeah, I think this is like- people would remember this episode for the sad parts, but I think the absolutely hilarious beginning should also be remembered.

C: Yep. Big agree.

G: Yeah.

So, Best Line/Worst Line. My worst line is "what a bitch." [both laughing] Literally.

C: That was soo funny.

G: You know what? I'll have another worst line, unless you want to take it.

C: Go ahead.

G: You're- what did he say? You're-

C: Unusual.

G: "You're unusual." I'll put that as my worst line as well. [laughing] And by worst line, I mean it's also my best line [C laughing], because it's incredibly funny and it made me scream.

C: Yeah. For worst line, I'm gonna go with Dean saying "We scoured every source. There's just no cure." Ugh! [G laughs]

G: What's your best line?

C: Best line. Hm. That's harder. I feel like every line here that, like, could be hashtag deep is cheapened by how unsubtle the situation is.

G: Yeah.

C: Okay, think I'm gonna go with like, "I don't want to die. I don't. But I can't live like this. This is the way you can save me." Because I mean, I totally disagree with the sentiment [G laughs], but it was one of the subtler ways that they called back to the Sam parallelism and I feel like it was emotionally effective in the moment.

G: Yeah. Okay. IMDB rating.

C: Oh, wait, what was- oh, your best line is "You're unusual," okay.

G: [laughs] Yeah. What's your IMDB rating?

C: I think this one's high.

G: I'm sure this one's high.

C: I'm sure some people are just gonna tank it because of the sex scene awkwardness, and they're right.

G: No, I don't think so. I think this is a solid 8.6 in the eyes of the general public. Or like, at least the people who rate things on IMDB.

C: Oh, I was actually gonna go higher, I think I was gonna go like, 8.8.

G: Okay, so 8.6 and 8.8. Let's see.

[gasps] We're right in the middle of it! It's an 8.7.

C: Oh! 8.7?

G: Yeah.

C: Good for us.

G: Let's see what people have been saying. "Heartbreaking." "The episodes with heart." "Life is not a fairy tale." "This episode made me cry. There was so much raw emotion." [laughs] So true. And by "so true," I mean, not at all, but sure.

C: Someone just- someone called the episode sexy.

G: Noo! Sam is just-

C: Literally, I wrote down while watching the scene, like, "This could be a PSA for like, why I should remain a virgin." [G laughs] Like-

G: "Sam's sex style-"

C: This is gonna put off my first time by like, a year, at least.

G: This review is titled "Sam's sex style, revealed." [C laughs] "We finally get to see Sam getting some, and he's rough. And awesome!" [C screams]

C: The thing is, this is consistent. Like, Sam’s face before they lunge at each other is like, his face before he and Ruby start making out in "I Know What You Did Last Summer." Like, I think he does have a very specific sex style. And it's awes-! [laughs] God, no.

G: Wait, the one I told you about, it says, "To the guy who says this is his wife's favorite episode, no freaking wondering, dude! Oh, yeah, the story isn't too bad either." [laughing] And then you scroll down, and one of the reviews says-

C: Wait, I can't hear what you're saying, you're laughing too hard.

G: [laughing] No, in the review above it, says, like, "To guy who says this is my wife's favorite episode, no wonder," referring to the sex scene. And then you scroll down a little bit and the review is "this is my wife's favorite episode." [both laughing]

C: Yeah. "Another girl dies, and of course Sam was in love. I hate seeing that, especially after the series premiere what happened to Jessica. I don't know how much more the writers can put him through."

G: [laughing] So true.

C: He's gonna be tortured for 100 years.

G: This one says, "Complete garbage. Sera Gamble has hit an absolute low in regards to writing for this episode. Sorry!" [both laughing]

C: Yeah, exactly. "Yeah, there's really no halfway point in regards to providing an alternative lifestyle for the lycanthrope such as, I don't know, installing a steel cage. Simply stated that she'd escape doesn't make it so." Yeah, say that.

C: The one titled sad face says that their theory as to why people dislike this- Okay, first, they said that they think that people dislike "Route 666" because the Samgirls don't like watching a Dean sex scene, and then they said that they, as a Deangirl, didn't like this episode because they didn't like watching a Sam sex scene "out of a fangirlish jealousy."

G: So, like, their point is if you're a Samgirl, you don't want to see the Sam sex scenes?

C: No, other way around. You're jealous that Dean gets a sex scene in "Route 666," and then the Dean girls are uncomfortable that Sam gets a sex scene in "Heart." That's their theory.

G: Ohh. I thought it was like, "The Dean girls don't like it when Dean has sex with other women and Samgirls don't like it when Sam has sex with other women." Literally.

C: Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

G: I cannot get into the mind of like, a Winchester fucking-

C: Fucker?

G: Yeah. [laughs] A winchesterfucker69. I cannot get into their head. [C laughs]

C: Yeah, me neither. Which is why you're not Cascoded, I guess. But, I mean, I think I'm Cascoded and I don't get the Dean thing at all either, so who knows.

G: Wait, I just realized that [laughing] me saying that I don't get winchesterfuckers69 is very out of character for me regarding my previous conversations we've had in the podcast.

C: "He's so pogi!" [G laughing]

G: Your pronunciation of pogi is so good.

C: Oh, god, how do you say it?

G: No, it's genuinely good. Like you're genuinely-

C: Oh, that wasn't sarcastic, okay. Thank you.

G: Yeah. [laughs]

Anyway, that's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next week, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 18: "Hollywood Babylon"! Leave us a rating or a review wherever you get your podcasts.

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G: You can email us any feedback, comments, or inquiries at [email protected]. See you guys next time! Buh-bye!

C: Bye!

[guitar music]

C: Yeah, what's the- do you know the post that I'm talking about? The one that's like, "Gonna start posting about Friends like it's Supernatural?"

G: [laughs] Yeah, and then-

C: I don't remember- do you know the phrasing?

G: Yeah, I do. "Gonna start posting about Friends-" and then "They were in love here" and it's the picture of the two guys from Friends?

C: Yeah, but the person who added the reblog? Let me find it.

G: No, I don't remember.

C: Oh my god. Why can't- it's so impossible to look up a fucking Tumblr post on Google.

G: On Tumblr. Literally anything.

C: Ugh. It doesn't matter, I guess. [G laughs]

G: Okay.

C: Ugh, oh my god. I do wanna find it though. [laughs] Do you want to take over while I try to find this post that isn't even funny?

G: [laughs] Just leave it be, Crystal!

C: Okay.

G: What is it about?

C: So it's like the picture of two guys from Friends sitting together, oh my god, why- it keeps showing up in results, but it's-

G: It's the entire blog?

C: Yeah, every time I try to click on- yeah. Oh my god, this is gonna bother me forever and I'm gonna ruin the whole podcast episode over a post that isn't even funny.

Okay, okay. I'm giving up. I am.

[bleeping sound]

[laughing] Wait, okay, sorry, I found the post.

G: Oh, god. No, what is it?

C: It's not even funny! Okay, so it's the "Gonna start posting about Friends like it's Supernatural," and then a photo of two guys from Friends sitting on couches next to each other, captioned "They were in love here." And then somebody reblogged with the tags, "honestly homie on the left looks clenched down to the marrow with barely-restrained lust." Anyway, that's Sam.

G: [laughing] This is so unfunny! You know what?

C: It's not funny. Just cut it out. [G still laughing] Just cut it out. Let's go back to the episode.

G: [laughing] Wait. I find this incredibly funny, but for like, the most ridiculous reasons.

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GOD im gonna miss yj and hs SO MUCH they were thee main slayers, the only ones that mattered, created romance, etc 😭😭😭😭

not saying shit about friends to lovers anymore they healed my aversion for that trope because normally i find it really lazy and boring but they made it extremely personally interesting and fun and emotional

have a lot of thoughts about them that makes not really any sense but anyway........ first of all food is one of their love languages.... all the parallels they had over the 16 eps........ the way they are different yet similar in what they crave and that they are really lonely people but show it in different ways. also, 80% of the time their outfits matched each other. from the colors to the fabric and outfit choices like it's so on point.

LIKE I NEED A PRE AND POST-FINALE 400k+ fic of them??????????? WHERE IS IT YOU ALL WHERE IS MY LONG FIC OF THEM?? I need it so badly like i need to read about the 1 year time skip and the few weeks before the time skip and i need an alternative scene of him barging into the room and hugging her while she's sobbing and him sobbing with her and them being together and falling asleep tired as hell over crying the whole time in holding onto each other. and the awkward first few moments and i need the whole mind map that went into them dating and what kind of dates they had and what they did and what they talked about. the wedding and them being married and having babies and they're gonna make like 5 babies because the more the better. (also, it would have been cute if we had gotten a tiny lil flashback scene with younger YJ+HS like that would have been cute but.......... )

like before CIL i was a big S**gJ**n anti like i disliked his ass because he was always playing assholes that are just massive dicks but in a shitty kind of way........ i did not give a single f about that guy i watched him in a few dramas/ movies and he was always MEHHHHHHHHH boring and uninteresting to me (mostly because he was miscast in all his roles) and CIL literally made me a believer. like the fucked up and dry bleached tips of the hair and the messy all-around persona?????? SEXI to me i want him i need him?????? pathetic loser calm guys that are just there and don't do much???????? and him working a regular normal job in CIL???? that mattered.

also, CIL was such a consistent banger drama from start to finish because of them. it also ended so fast normally the period of a drama airing feels annoying long and I'm mostly exhausted by the end of it, but this one i ended it refreshed and well-fed all around. and not to mention watching a drama just for the side couple and skipping everything else is such a power move in a way??????? like the feeling is just different from watching a drama normally or watching a drama for the leads compared to watching a drama just for the side couple????? like the energy is so all around better if the side couple is getting treated well. and the quotes????????? the words that they said????????? our loud????????? MLN kind of healing poetry. like normally i complain a loooooooooot about random shit and about all kinds of things but i was not complaining about anything. that's so crazy to me i was so in tune with everything sure they could have gotten more screentime and the drama could have been 20eps long or maybe it could have been a weekend drama because it had all the ingredients of a weekender but like???????? i was well-fed. also don't ask me what was going on between the leads and their moms and the cheater dad and the lil bro and the other side characters and hani because I do not know in full detail and still it was soooooooo well written???????? CIL writer my new best friend. like di*ney+kr needs to do those 1 ep special eps like i need a whole ep dedicated to them post-wedding and them doing random stuff and all that just being silly together and all that omg. like they could have so much out of it ahhhhh

also fuck the immature people on twt/mdl/a few on here who are misogynistic af. the moment a woman gets something to say about the situation/relationship of the leads that's kinda negative or judgemental and has valid reasons to say so they are getting called all kinds of words??????????? immature people. especially because the stuff she said wasn't that bad like it was valid and at the end, she did give them her okay and even if not like????????? it would have been weird if she did not react to the news at all....... and it was in line with her character so like....... what did they expect?????????? that's that on that.

...anyway, this makes no sense also hugs

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Hello! I'm currently reading all of your meta posts and i just really have to say THANK YOU. Not only they are very entertaining to read, but they're so well written and so detailed and they're truly a joy to read. So thank you, you've done an amazing job! I still haven't finished but I'm slowly going through all of them!

Having said this, I have kind of a loaded question for you. Maybe it's something other people have already asked you, in which case I apologize, i still haven't read those answers (so feel free to not reply, but):

Do YOU think buddie will eventually happen, canonically?

I see so many wonderfully excited people in your asks and ot warms my heart to see so much hope, but I personally cannot help but be very dubious and rational about the whole thing. I've been in fandoms for too many years and seen way too many ships be queerbaited/detroyed for the sake of no homoing the whole thing, and the situation with buddie is eerily similar to some of those ships. I don't really want to get my hopes up, especially since even the actors, for as professional as they might be, don't seem to have a good relationship anymore. Between them and Tim Minear being Tim Minear, I don't really see it going anywhere and it makes me sad + it kind of makes not really want to watch the show because i don't want to suffer though it shipping something that just makes me sad.

Essentially, what I'm looking for, is reassurance. You know way more than I do and you've analyzed every episode (and i'm guessing you've also watched a lot of interviews). What is your guess? I really want to hope, but i'm hesitant because i don't want to get my heart broken all over again, if that makes sense.

In any case, thank you for your time and, again, for all of your hard work, it's truly incredible! It had been a long, long time since the last time i saw meta posts so well written and so detailed in a fandom!

Have a great day 💕

Awwww, hi hon! :D Thank you so much for reading my meta and letting me know you're enjoying it, that makes my heart grow three sizes (at the very least)... And your words are so kind, I'm so grateful and will cherish your compliments! I hope the rest of my meta posts will bring you just as much enjoyment! *hugs*

I totally get the hesitance to invest emotionally in a non-canon same-sex couple. I've been there too, and I know what it feels like. I can tell you that in the past, I've had the weird (and lucky) experience that most ships of this kind that I liked, but suspected won't ever go canon, indeed didn't, and a few couples that I thought might, did. There's no doubt that there are way more ships of the former kind, but I think something that has always helped me is that I had a good sense of when a show won't go there, no matter how hard it would hint at the ship. 911 doesn't feel like one of those shows. It feels like one of the shows that could actually follow through on its own promises and narrative regarding Buddie.

Does that mean it def will happen? No. And I don't wanna promise that, because I can't. But I can tell you that I personally have hope. The very fact that I believe Eddie's whole introduction even back in s2 was meant, IMO, to make us entertain the possibility of this ship, I think that says it is very possible that it will happen. I'm not saying that back in s2 the show was def gonna go there, but I think it was gonna fly those sails and see where the wind might take this ship... and there's no doubt that the response was overwhelmingly positive, and that no other possible LI for either guy so far has been able to offer even a bit of competition. And I do think Tim has more experience than some producers with same-sex ships going canon (he was a part of the Buffy verse which had the iconic Tara and Willow, and the shooting scene in 413 very much parallels them), plus he's shown before that he listens to his fans and takes their wishes into consideration. I'm not saying it's the only thing dictating his decisions, but I do believe it informs them.

I also think Oliver and Ryan probably get along much better than people realize. We know that Oliver doesn't have to ever refer to Ryan or Eddie on his personal social media accounts, for example I think he's never explicitly referred to Megan West or to Taylor outside of interviews. Even when he was asked about them. And he has talked about Ryan supportively, even quite recently. But even if they hated each other, I do think they can be professional and give the audience an amazing onscreen couple (I'm not sure, but I think that was the case with the main ship that went canon on Castle, I believe the actors didn't get along in rl, but they still did a great job portraying lovers). Oliver and Ryan have both expressed support for Buddie in the past, and I'm sure they know what a positive effect Buddie going canon can have on their careers, so I'm pretty sure if it were up to them, Buddie would have gone canon already...

I hope this helps, lovely! Thank you again, so much! And may you have a gorgeous day! xoxox

And if you or anyone else are looking for other replies of mine, you can find them in my ask tag. xoxox

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; i'm coming home

bucky barnes x reader ⎢ masterlist.

bucky and you met six years ago in romania, but he disappeared. now, he's back.

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Six years had passed since the last time he was with you, before disappearing overnight. He didn't give you any explanation, he didn't even leave a note. He needed to protect you, but he also knew how stubborn you were and that you wouldn't let him take that decision for both. So Bucky simply left, breaking your heart in one thousand pieces. You wanted to understand his reasons, but you couldn't. He promised you eternal love, a life together, moving out of New York —maybe to a remote place where anyone could recognize him and have peaceful days, without having to be worried about someone coming after him. About someone trying to hurt you.

Since the very first moment you met in Romania, Bucky fell in love with you. Sometimes you still remembered how he started talking to you in Romanian, guessing you were from there until you laughed and replied in English. The next few weeks were like a daydream. Walks, romantic dates, nights of stargazing. Then, you came back to New York and kept in touch by letters, as in the forties or fifties. Until one day. Your friends invited you to a museum and what you discovered there was unbelievable. James, your James, was Captain America's best friend. And he was supposed to be dead.

You wrote to him. You told him you knew it. You told him you didn't care, that you could figure out how to escape from that situation. Together. But he never sent you a letter back. You weren't able to forget him after all that time, still sleeping every night with his red shirt, stupidly fantasizing about the idea of Bucky coming back to you. And your hopes increased when you watched him on TV. The Avengers found him and, even if you tried to contact them somehow to defend your James, you never got it. Nobody believed you, not even when you showed them the letters, not the only picture you conservated of both of you in Bucharest. You prayed to God to help him. You begged God to the world seeing him as you did.

But when Bucky was released on parole, he never tried to look for you. He did know you lived in New York and, with his resources, he'd have known in less than five minutes. One year had passed, and you ended up losing the most minimal hope wrapping your heart. All those things he told you once, were just lies. Lies to inventing a parallel life until you left Romania. Only replying to your letters to have something to lean on for his own good. That's what he demonstrated to you.

bucky's pov

Like every night since he earned part of his freedom, Bucky stared at the windows of your apartment, from the opposite sidewalk hidden behind a tree. Like a ghost. Like he was trained to see but not be seeing. Every night, he wanted to cross the road, call to your door, kiss you, hug you, feel your touch and your love —hold you, and never let you go again. But he knew it was risky, he knew he had to wait for the right time. And it came. Tonight it came. His year of therapy had ended and he was free. Bucky was free to come back home.

He had been watching you since it started, making sure you were safe and sound. He also was aware that you never rebuilt your life with another man, that you tried to find him. That you slept every night with his shirt. Bucky was also aware of all the times you cried for him, that you always walked the same way from your job to your apartment expecting to meet him in some street close to it. He knew you better than you knew yourself.

Taking a deep, deep breath, keeping his hands inside the pockets of his coat, the soldier put a step on the road. The first step to happiness. And then, no one could stop him. He continued to the front door of the building, not needing more than a push to open it. Third floor, fifth door at the right of the corridor. Bucky licked his bottom lip nervously, swallowing as he took a master key from one of his pockets and a small metallic stick to force the lock of your house. He needed to be fast and stealthy, ringing the bell wasn't an option for very obvious reasons. Breaking into the apartment, he closed the door quietly behind his back.

The lights were all turned off a couple of hours ago when you went to sleep, after sitting on the window of your living room waiting for someone who wasn't going to show up, as every night for the last six years. The whole place smelled sweet like you used to. Bucky never forgot your scent, using it as the encouragement he needed to continue fighting for his freedom, for a life together. Now, his heart was racing so quickly that the whole city could hear his beats.

Slowly, he toured the entrance, the living room, the hallway straight to your dorm. The door was half-closed. Not a single noise coming from the inside. Bucky walked towards it, pushing it in slow motion, trying to not wake you up. And if he knew before that could be that easy to watch you sleep —for creepy that it sounded— he would have watched you every night since he landed in New York.

Bucky wasn't sure about what to do. If he should wake you up, if he should let you sleep and come the next day after you finished your work. When he wanted to realize, he was running the nail of his index finger on your soft cheek. Your skin was still warm, which meant you fell asleep crying again. And that broke his heart, his soul. Being conscious of all the pain and the suffering he made you being through all that time was killing him from inside. And he wished he could have handled your relationship in another way. But there wasn't another way without you being collateral damage of his past.

Bucky was about to leave when he suddenly felt a hit to his collarbone, stumbling to the bed. He didn't have time to react when your right leg was beneath his cold arm and pinning down his neck, as your left leg was laced around it. Your hand gripping his wrist, immobilizing him, pointing at him with a loaded gun between your free fingers. Your breathing became erratic, your pulse was beating faster than ever, but you were ready to shoot if the occasion required it.

In the middle of the gloom you glimpsed at those deep oceanic blue eyes you had been craving to look at for years. The same eyes on the picture on your nightstand. It has to be another dream. Another nightmare where Bucky came to tell you that everything was going to be okay. But his touch felt so real that it hurt like a million flames burning down your body to ashes. You were paralyzed. Your brain collapsed. In a very slow motion, James —your James— raised his right hand from the mattress to above his chest, bringing it to the gun aimed at his head. You couldn't stop him. You tried with all your strength. But the commands sent by your neurons never reached the finger supported against the trigger.

His flesh digits made their way to your trembling hand, as the tears started to sprout out from your eyes. Bucky took the weapon, not needing to ask you to release it, to put it away from the two of you.

“It's okay, draga mea, it's me…” He whispered with such an angelical and melodic voice, over your dolorous sobs. “May I, uh… get my arm back?”

Bit by bit, you obeyed as if it was some kind of polite order, loosening the grip around his arm and over his neck. Stepping back till your body collided with the headboard, you curled up your knees to your furious chest rising and falling, hiding your face between the gap of both. Your cry became louder, agonic, painful, ripping your throat.

“No— Not again… Not again, please… I c— can't”. You implored sorely.

Bucky didn't need to be a genius to understand you firmly believed it was just part of another of your dreams. Another of your nightmares. He sat upon your bed, coming closer to you and landing his cold metallic hand on the back of your head, urging you to raise it. You did. You did raise your burning face because of the tears falling, running down your cheeks. Your blurry gaze focused on his pale blue eyes, begging you silently to forgive him.

“I'm here… I'm back”. Bucky murmured, gently touring your skin until reaching a side of your neck, caressing your throat by using his thumb. “This is not a dream, draga mea. This is real”.

His intentions weren't to scare you, speaking to you with such a honeyed tone of voice as he shortened the distance between his body and your legs yet curled. You pouted unconsciously, watching him leaning above your legs to press his lips on the bridge of your nose. Slowly, fondly. Wanting to transmit to you that the flame of his love for you never went out. Resting his forehead against yours, your right hand flew straight to the back of his neck. You had never needed more than you needed him at that precise instant, trying to believe that that wasn't a trick of your subconscious.

“'M so, so sorry… I had to protect you… I had to protect you”. Bucky explained while closing his eyes, lacing his free fingers with yours. “But, uh… I know you still drink black coffee with mocha and a stick of cinnamon every Thursday. I know you… rent a book from the library and sit on the stairs in your free evenings… I know you sleep with this same shirt every night”.

Discovering he had been watching you all this time provoked your lips to shiver, as your cry became lower and your breathing was calmer. He guarded your days, in the shadows, till the right moment. And it came. Tonight was the right moment.

“I'm free. I'm not an enemy anymore… I'm not a target”. Bucky couldn't help but chuckle to hold back his own tears. “I'm so sorry”.

“Will you…? Will you stay now? With me?” At first, you doubted asking, being afraid of his response for a second.

“No one will ever set us apart again. No one”. He promised you, his heart speaking, telling the absolute truth. “Everything I told you in Bucharest; everything was true. And I… I want it”.

Bucky leaned forward enough inches to make disappear the less distance between both of you, pressing his lips in yours, tenderly caressing your jawline with his thumb as his tears met yours in the corner of your lips. Neither of you could believe that you were reunited after all these years, after all the pain, the loneliness. And like James, your James, said so: no one would ever set you apart again.

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ialwaysknewyouwerepunk · 3 years

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golden - a close reading

fine line is my favorite album of all time, truly a masterpiece and the music that brings me ultimate comfort. i'll be making a post about every track and then finish it off with a grand conclusion; an ode to the album as a whole, if you will. thanks for all the nice responses to my previous lyric analyses (only angel, mmith) - it really really means a lot to me. alright, enough blabbing

fine line, track 1

Golden, golden, golden as I open my eyes

Hold it, focus, hoping, take me back to the light

awakening, realisation. EYES OPEN. ～ lights up, “step into the light”

opening track, eyes are open: one of the central themes of the album

again: "you" needs to help H ～MMITH

I know you were way too bright for me

first meeting, at the start of their relationship H was awestruck/tongue-tied (～sunflower vol. 6)

I'm hopeless, broken, so you wait for me in the sky

recurring theme: self-deprecating H (～MMITH)

"you" is the one waiting ⟷ H in MMITH: was "you" on the right side of the door all along, waiting for H to come around?

Brown my skin just right

"you" is Harry’s sun, force of life; knows how to warm H up to anything

You're so golden

I'm out of my head, and I know that you're scared

crazy in love / has no inhibitions anymore, doesn't want to hide away their love

Because hearts get broken

"you" is scared, despite being so bright and strong - fear of letting H fully in - walls are up

I don't wanna be alone

recurring theme: loneliness (falling, from the dining table, to be so lonely, etc.)

I don't wanna be alone when it ends

Don't wanna let you know

when what ends? ～ MMITH “we don’t talk about it”?

recurring theme: lack of communication

But I can feel it take a hold

I can feel you take control

Of who I am, and all I've ever known

Lovin' you's the antidote

doubts fall away because the one right answer is that their love conquers all

ode to overcoming doubts ～ MMITH

their love took over their lives for good

"antidote": recurring theme of love as a drug/medication: MMITH, Habit

⟶ for what? loneliness, insecurities?

I know that you're scared because I'm so open

SYNTHESIS

As the opening track of Fine Line, Harry makes a clear statement about the album. It's a celebration of love, an ode to the early stages of love, the insecurities that are involved in that. Just like in Meet Me In The Hallway, Harry is sure of this love, and its power to overcome anything, this time just with a bit more confidence. This relationship struggles with being open, with saying everything they're feeling. Harry is still there, still waiting for this person to be as open as he is, but he acknowledges that that person is also waiting for him, and always has been. This song is Harry telling us that he's finally opened his mouth, in contrast to his silent waiting in MMITH, and wants his person to come celebrate their love with him.

This openness in Harry is one of the central themes in Fine Line, and it's an openness to love as well as an openness within himself and to everything that he can be.

He acknowledges their feelings, their hesitation in order to not get hurt, but wants those doubts to fall away. He's instilling confidence in his love, because they're the sun, they're golden, and Harry is entirely enthralled by them. His sun has always helped him find the light, find his way back to himself and their love. Harry needing this sun, this person, is also a recurring theme in all of his music, and in Golden it's sung as merely one aspect of their love, not something that takes over or is a burden (MMITH, falling). It's a testament to Harry looking up to them, to that person giving him strength and showing him the way. They're his compass, so to speak.

The music video for the song also shows the joyous character of the song: Harry is elated, sprinting and dancing. The parallels in visuals between the mv and movie Holding the Man are too striking not to mention. It's a film about a long-term relationship between two men, and how they overcome their struggles over all the years they're together. The opening scenes of the movie show one of the protagonists running through an Italian coastal city, much like Harry in the mv, all the way to the sea, where he jumps in. In the mv, we also see Harry in the water, and the side-by-sides make it clear where Harry found his inspiration. This parallel, to me, underlines the struggles a long-lasting love can go through, be it through internal or external causes, and that love, the knowledge that you have it, conquering it all. It also shows an acceptance of life and its twists and turns, and finding freedom and beauty in that.

This love makes Harry euphoric and he’ll shout it out to anyone who will listen. Love that for us.

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gotham-ruaidh · 3 years

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Little Bit Better Than I Used To Be

This story takes place during the summer of 1987. It’s the time of the Cold War, and heavy metal, and Just Say No.

Ten chapters, each with a specific song as its soundtrack.

I’m so excited to finally share it with you.

Catch up: Chapter 1 (Starry Eyes) || Chapter 2 (Save Our Souls) || Also posted at AO3

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Chapter 3: Dancing On Glass

I've been through hell // And I'm never goin' back // To dancing on glass // Going way too fast...

Need one more rush // Then I know, I know I'll stop // One extra push // Last trip to the top...

Soundtrack: “Dancing On Glass,” Mötley Crüe, 1987 [click here to listen]

Three P.M.

Group.

Claire’s hands wrapped around the hard sides of the plastic chair, holding herself upright, watching about two dozen fellow patients? inmates? addicts? shuffle into the room.

Two people stood at the door – greeting others as they entered, handing out small packets of tissues and bottles of Coke.

Today’s facilitator – a middle-aged, bearded man – stood to one side, chatting with a few people.

“Hey!”

Claire startled – and turned to her right to see Jamie slide into the chair beside her.

“How’s it going today? Day two, right?”

She nodded. “Met with my therapist this morning.”

“That’s great! Who’ve you got?”

“Gillian.”

Jamie cracked open a bottle. “Oh, she’s great. Been here a long time. She’s married to the director – did you know that?”

Claire’s eyebrows raised. “No, but that’s really interesting.”

Jamie gulped about half the bottle in one shot. “Yeah. We owe everything to them.”

“Yeah, well. I got assigned to dinner set-up duty.”

He beamed. “Great! I’ve been on that rotation for the last few weeks. I’ll show you all the ropes.”

“Few weeks? How long have you been here, if you don’t mind me asking?”

He set down his Coke. “I don’t. And I’ve been here eight weeks. The best eight weeks of my fucked-up life.”

“Don’t say that,” she chided. “Surely everything can’t be so terrible.”

He stared at her for a long moment.

“It can be, if you were the reason why a sold-out European tour couldn’t happen, and it cost your backers and buddies tens of millions of dollars, and it pissed off countless thousands of fans.”

Now the greeters took their seats within the circle.

“Couldn’t, or didn’t?” Claire hoped her words were gentle, but when her head split with pain like this she could never tell. “And what do you mean by ‘tour’?”

His eyes narrowed. “Couldn’t. My manager said I’d come back from Europe in a body bag. He’s a bloodsucker but he had enough sense to not kill the golden goose.” He finished his Coke in one long gulp – flexing the tattoos swirling on his forearm and elbow. “And I’m a professional musician – in case you couldn’t guess from the way I look.”

“I see.”

He grinned. “How about that – someone who doesn’t recognize me.”

She folded her hands in her lap, closing her eyes against the pain, so desperately wanting to disappear. “I guess between medical school, and being a surgeon, and my ex-husband…and the pills…there are a lot of things I haven’t paid attention to.”

“Hey.” Softly he reached out to touch her knee – and she looked up at him.

“I’m not making fun of you, Claire. It’s just…I don’t know. Refreshing.”

She smiled tightly.

The facilitator clapped his hands. “Everyone – are we ready?”

People around the circle nodded, and the man sat down in the last empty chair.

“Great. Well, hi everyone. For those of you who don’t know me – I’m Murtagh. Been clean for just about eleven years now. Before that I spent a small fortune that I didn’t have – ”

“ – on enough blow to kill an elephant,” Jamie and several others chorused.

Murtagh smiled. “Wiseasses. Now – today’s topic is: clarity.”

“Can you be more specific?” A heavyset, bearded man across the circle piped up.

“You mean – provide more clarity?” Geneva snickered from somewhere near Jamie.

“Easy,” Murtagh interjected. “And yes, Rupert, of course. What I mean is: something I hear a lot from people here is that being away from substances gives them clarity for the first time in years. Clarity of thoughts – meaning, you’re logical and rational. Clarity of judgment – meaning, you feel like you are empowered to make good decisions. And overall, clarity to step away from all the bullshit that the substances made you do, or made it easier for you to do, and say – damn, what the hell was I doing?”

Across the circle, Rupert nodded. “OK. Oh – hi everyone, I’m Rupert, and I’m an alcoholic. Yeah – I can definitely relate. I wanted to not have clarity, so that I didn’t have to think about how much I was screwing up my job, and my marriage.”

“Good,” Murtagh praised. “And now that you can’t avoid it – how do you feel?”

Rupert stroked his thick beard. “Like shit. I love Scarlet so much, and I fucked it all up. I understand that now.”

“I feel the same way,” Jamie added. “Hi, I'm Jamie, and I'm an alcoholic, too. I drank because I’ve always felt so responsible for everything going on in my band – because I’m the guy that brought us together, and I’m the guy who writes the songs, and I’m the guy who’s across the table from the record company executives, advocating on our behalf.” He bounced a long, thin, jean-clad leg rapidly up and down. “I felt like I was being used, and that I was the only one who cared. I felt that really clearly. So I drank to…to avoid that clarity.”

Claire carefully watched the others around the circle. What Jamie was sharing could make any one of them a quick buck – all it would take was one phone call to a tabloid. But everyone was listening raptly – clearly thinking about parallels in their own lives – and it began to dawn on her that Jamie had one thing she didn’t have much of for herself: respect.

“And then when I drank, I’d just get really mean,” he continued. “I’d say things to rile up my drummer. I had a fling with my manager’s girlfriend, just to fuck with him. And yeah, I’d destroy hotel rooms.”

“Your reaction was to want to hurt people,” Murtagh said gently. “You had had clarity – clarity that you were shouldering too much, for too many people – and you reacted by wanting to push them away.”

“Yeah.” Claire spoke without thinking. “Um – hi everyone, I’m Claire, and I’m addicted to pills. Halcions, mostly.”

“Oh, those are the best,” a woman to Claire’s left remarked.

“Hey – no positive talk,” Murtagh interjected. “You know better than that, Letitia.”

Letitia huffed.

Murtagh turned back to face Claire. “Tell us more, Claire, if you’re comfortable?”

Now that she’d started, she couldn’t stop. “I was – am – a trauma surgeon for an emergency room. I love it – I love the adrenaline of it, and of course being able to help people on the worst day of their lives. I love being able to heal people. But…but it’s pretty heavy stuff. People die, no matter how hard you try to save them. People wake up and they’re not happy that they don’t have a leg anymore – and I say, would you rather be dead?”

“And you wanted to get away from that?” Jamie asked gently.

She closed her eyes. “I had to have clarity to do my job properly – it’s hard to describe, but it’s like having a laser focus on what’s in front of you. Getting in the zone. Shutting out everything else. And then when it’s all done – I would crash. The whole world would come rushing back, and I’d be covered in someone else’s blood and barely able to sit down before I had to work on the next person. That was so, so hard to deal with.”

“I understand.” Claire opened her eyes – it was an older man speaking right next to Jamie. “Hi everyone – I’m Ned, I’m a lawyer and crack addict, and there are a lot of jokes I’m sure you could make based on that.”

Claire managed a small smile.

“I’m a defense attorney – I’m that guy you see on TV arguing in a courtroom and presenting to a jury. I totally get what Claire said, because I needed to have that kind of really focused clarity, too. It was kind of like acting – I had to remember my argument, and I had to present it to the jury, and I had to pick up on cues from them to see how well I was doing. And then afterward I’d just crash. But I still had to have energy to prep for the next day, and that’s where Miss Crack came in.”

“So what I’m hearing is that clarity is something you already had – and then you turn to substances to get away from it.” Murtagh folded his arms. “Because it’s hard to flip that ‘off’ switch. And then eventually, the substances change from being something to take a vacation from that clarity, to completely blocking out that clarity altogether.”

“Exactly.” It was easier for Claire to focus on Murtagh than the sea of faces surrounding her. “And it’s a deliberate choice. I’m sure, Ned and Rupert and Jamie, that you deliberately sought out something to prevent that clarity. I know I did – I wrote the prescriptions for the pills that I consumed.”

Rupert nodded. “The bottle didn’t pick itself up and pour the liquor down my throat. And you’re right, Claire – at first, at least, it was a conscious decision. Until it became something I had to depend on.”

“I think that there are ways for this to happen more positively.” A woman seated beside Rupert quietly spoke. “Oh – hi, everyone, I’m Marsali, and I’m an alcoholic. What I mean is, there are ways to flip that ‘off’ switch that aren’t so…destructive. You can go for a run. Listen to music. Cook a meal. Watch a movie. Make love to your significant other.”

Murtagh nodded. “Marsali brings up a good point here. I’ll repeat something that I’ve already told many of you before, because it bears repeating. Substance addiction is addiction, first and foremost. All of us are here because our brains are hard-wired for addiction. We can’t change that. But we can change what it is that we’re addicted to.”

“Like what?” Letitia had calmed down a bit, but clearly she was skeptical.

“Whatever works for you,” Murtagh shrugged. “Jiu Jitsu. Flower Arranging. Reading. Playing the drums. Writing. Riding motorcycles. Not all addictions are bad – we just need to find the addictions that help us, and don’t hurt us or the people around us.”

Everyone’s heads nodded in agreement, quietly reflecting.

“So – that’s my homework assignment for all of you.” Murtagh pulled a small spiral notebook from his pocket, flipped to a fresh page, and began scribbling in it. “To think about the thing that you can become positively addicted to. Something you already enjoy, or something you’ve never done before. But I hope that even just thinking about it will give you focus. Improve your clarity.”

“Got it,” Ned said quietly.

Murtagh flipped back to an earlier page in his notebook. “Now – I have here my notes from the last time I facilitated Group. OK if I start going around and asking people for follow-up thoughts to those? Rupert?”

Rupert nodded, and began to speak.

“Facilitators take turns hosting Group every fourth day.” Claire started a bit, but held steady as Jamie leaned in close, spoke quietly into her ear. “We talk about things, and we’re assigned homework, and then the next time the facilitator is back we talk about it.”

“Thanks,” Claire murmured.

Jamie didn’t pull away. “If you ever just want to talk…”

She swallowed. “Thanks. I do. I just – it’s a lot to process.”

“It is. But you’ll get there. Talk more at our dinner prep.”

With that he pulled back, and a low buzz settled somewhere between Claire’s ears as the people around her chimed in to the conversation.

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Actually, here is an alternative thing for you to occupy your time with, and a question I have been meaning to ask you for a while. I have finished 911 finally! So I'm ready for the new season. And I wonder, realistically, what do you think the roadmap would be for a buddie endgame?

I absolutely see how their story has been framed and filmed in a lot of parallels to how a romantic storyline would be set out. But there has been no outright mention of either of them being bi - although the conversation about Maddy setting Buck up with whassisface was very casual and could very easily have been an example of canonically bi Buck - and they are both at the end of season 4 in 'relationships' with women.

So, in your estimation, what's the timeline? What's the transition? How do they go about this and how long does it take? I wanna know your thoughts 👀

okay yes i have lots of thoughts on this and it's actually one of my fave questions i get asked. I've always watched a lot of tv shows so I'm just estimating on what I've seen before and what I would personally do. IMO this love story is a slow burn. We only have four seasons so far and only three of those seasons have Eddie in them. This unsurprisingly got long so ill put it under the cut.

So I'll go by seasons bc to me its important to look at everything that has happened so far by seasons and by love interests and not as a whole. Its the best way i can form a timeline that I think would make the most sense and why

S1: So we don't get any hints at Buck being anything other than straight and I think this is because he was supposed to be. They hadn't planned for Eddie yet and they definitely hadn't planned for the chemistry Oliver and Ryan were gonna have. S1 Buck was this reckless kid who didn't take anything serious. He was definitely super immature. Then he meets Abby and he starts to get serious about his job and his love life. I'm not gonna say "Abby changed him" because she didnt. He saw the person he was and the person he was becoming and decided on that change himself.

S2: Eddie!!!! So we get introduced to this army medic turned firefighter in the least heterosexual way. Then Buck is angry because Eddie is hot and really good at his job. they work together and Eddie compliments Buck and now they're smiley bffs. Seriously wtf was all that? Anyway this is all sus bc from what ive seen before in other shows when a main love interest leaves and a new main character replaces them, that means something. JLH replaced Connie Britton as far as big name actress but i really believe Eddie replaced Abby as far as importance in Buck's life. Do i think they brought him in with the intentions of turning him into a LI? No but they sure fueled the narrative from the get go. I think they saw fans reactions and started testing the waters.

Moving on to LIs in this season. We find out Eddie has a kid and the mother is not in the picture (eddie made sure buck knew that right away). Then later on we find out he's technically still married. shannon comes back and we get Eddie finally getting to confront this head on. He tries to get his family back together for the sake of his son. Its big for Eddie's character bc all he does and all he's ever done is for his son. Then Shannon asks for a divorce then she dies bringing this arc to an abrupt end and leaving eddie heartbroken.

meanwhile Buck is still waiting for Abby. Then he finally accepts that shes not coming back and decides to move on. He goes right back to being "Buck 1.0" with Taylor and feels bad about himself because that really isnt him anymore. He wants a real relationship. So then Ali calls and asks him on an actual date and he agrees. This is his first try at a relationship after a heartbreak. in tv these don't usually work out but are used to develop the main character's growth. We don't really see much of her but she breaks up with him so.

S3: This is Eddie finally dealing with his feelings/guilt season. This is also the season I think we really see how important Buck is to the Diaz boys. S2 had cute buckley-diaz family moments but those could still be interpreted as a best friend and his best friend's kid. This season though... after the tsunamic episode was when i really started to fully believe buddie was going canon. This season is solidifying their bond not only as Buck and Eddie but as Buck Eddie and Christpher. As I'm writing this I realized neither of them really has a love interest in this season do they? Ana is introduced but then is clearly presented as definitely NOT the right choice for eddie and especially for Chris. Then they counter that with Buck helping Eddie build a skateboard for Chris that he can use as opposed to Ana's ablest remarks about how he can't do it so just move on to something else. Then we get Buck's reaction in Eddie Begins. Buck has seen his team his friends his family get hurt on the job before but he has never reacted the way he did when it was Eddie in danger. Again solidifying just how much these two mean to each other. Don't even get me started on this season being when Eddie changes his will offscreen. Anyway we get Abby back and Buck finally gets the closure from that relationship that he needs to move forward into a serious relationship.

Now S4: jfc s4....IMO this is the only logical season to get the ball rolling on Buddie and they sure did that with 4x14 despite everything else. So i never thought they would be the first serious relationship for each other after the heart break theyve both experienced. It wouldn't be fair to their character developments. Buck tries dating Veronica and that clearly doesnt work but we know hes now open to dating again. We get Buck Begins where we see why Buck is the dare devil he is. The only way he got his parents attention as a kid was to put himself in danger. They bring back taylor and how to they ultimately get together after she friendzones him? She thinks hes in danger and suddenly wants him. As much as i hate it this is really gonna be a relationship where Buck finally stands up for himself and sees his own worth and realizes he deserves more. He deserves someone who sees him and loves him for who he is. He deserves to be chosen, something Abby Ali his parents dont do and what i think taylor wont end up doing. I feel like shes gonna choose her career over him. Maybe not in a "I'm breaking up with you" way but maybe she takes a new job and want to do LD (hes tried that twice and it didnt work for him. hes not gonna want that) or she could ask him to go with her but he wont. His family is in LA. His job is in LA. Eddie and Chris are in LA and he won't leave them. Then we have Eddie finally deciding to move on and try dating again so they bring back ana. To me it's not gonna work out so I'm not bothered at all lmao. It's interesting that they'd choose her though. Someone we already know Eddie doesn't trust with his son. There's also more buckley-diaz family scenes of them being coparents. The hildy episode, Chris running to Buck when hes mad at eddie, Buck being the one to tell Chris Eddie got hurt, then Buck staying with Chris and taking on the guardian role without him even knowing just how much that role really does belong to him. He didn't do it out of obligation. He didn't do it because he was asked to. He did it because he thought it would be best for Chris. Finally to 4x14. This is by far the biggest "Oh shit this is it. This is the beginning of buddie". We find out Eddie changed his will a year ago and has just been sitting on this info. I think Eddie knew back then what it meant but he wasn't in the right mindset to accept what it means so he kept it to himself. I think he finally started allowing himself to go there during treasure hunt. The man was jealous yall. Carla coming back and her comment about doing whats best for him and not chris is his oh shit moment. I think he wouldve broken up with Ana a few days after that if he had the time lol. He gets caught up in the mother/son sl then this poor mf gets shot by a sniper. The way that whole scene was filmed btw was not in a bff way. That was a lover watching his beloved almost die in front of him. Buck again puts himself down and Eddie decides this is the moment. He needs Buck to see how important he is. He wants buck to know how loved he is. So he sits there talking himself up to it and finally lets Buck know just how big of a part he is in Eddie's family. Buck's previous scene is him saying he wants someone who wants him back then here is Eddie saying he needs him...Chris needs him. wtf.

So with S5: I think Eddie knows and Buck has a feeling but he's not sure so what i would do is spend s5 with Eddie basically showing Buck his feelings but not exactly getting in the way of Buck's new relationship because Buck has to be the one to make that choice. Id also have chris feeling the different shift with buck having a gf like he did with Eddie. This newfound info wasnt just dropped on us for a "Aww so sweet" moment. This will business is gonna be a part of a bigger storyline. I'm hoping its with Eddie's family during maybe 5b.

So what I think would be the best timeline for canon buddie is 5a eddie already having either broken up with ana or is gonna break up with her, Buck choosing himself and ending things with Taylor by midseason finale, them bringing in Eddie's family in 5b and maybe then being when Eddie confesses his feelings for Buck. Then 6a we could get them walking on egg shells around each other not really knowing what to do bc this is all so new for both of them. This could bring just the right amount of comedy and angst especially them awkward and flustered around each other at work. A big blowup can happen between them for added angst (maybe an arguement before one of them or both of them is put in danger) then a midseason finale kiss. Then trying to find the balance between their personal relationship and their work relationship during 6b.

I don't know how long Fox shows last but procedurals can last a long time. I'm not sure thats gonna be the case for 911 especially with all the main cast staying that long so i think this would give us at least a whole season (S7) of canon buddie.

As far as then being presented as straight, there's been more seeds planted about buck being bi. A few i can remember off the top of my head: all of 2x1 lmao, maddie's comment about bucks boy crush on eddie, buck hinting at thinking eddie is cute when he thinks maddie is talking about him, the christmas elf, the comments on the instagram livestream, idk if youve watched it or not but TK's comment to Buck in the crossover episode, and like you mentioned Maddie's casual comment about setting him up with Josh. All we really know about Eddie's love life is he married Shannon when they were young and is trying with Ana so it could turn into a whole storyline for him.

I'm so sorry this is so long and took forever but i I hope i actually answered your question and didnt just get lost in rambles lmao.

#oh god that took me way too long lol #eddie diaz #evan buckley #buddie #911onfox #is this meta?#wtf even is that #buddie meta #??#idk

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