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#stfu todd
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“and if you weren’t just enough of a bastard to be worth knowing”
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Bat Timeline vs Bat Publication Timeline
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I kept my receipts and citations here. Also, I used cover dates.
Neat things I noticed:
Nothing much happened in Gotham until Robin arrived both in continuity and in print history. Sorry but your lone wolf Batman doesn't exist :P
Dick permanently becomes Batman at the same age Bruce was when he became Batman; 25. Kinda poetic if you ask me.
Babs was Oracle longer than she was Batgirl in both continuity and publication history!!
Completely forgot that Dinah was literally her own mother once upon a time. Weird stuff.
There's not enough Jason!Robin stories to fit the 3 years some fans claim he was Robin for. Also the 3 years idea doesn't work if you track Dick's age. My guess is he was originally younger than 15 when he died but DC aged him up so he could be an adult when he returned as Red Hood.
It's pretty clear that Helena's integration into the group began the expansion of this complicated "family unit". She set the precedent for those noirish vigilante work relations.
Tim has to be a vampire if he's meant to be 17 three whole very explicit in-continuity years after he had his 16th birthday.
Stephanie has basically been in this gig as long as Tim! And almost as long as Helena too. Proper seasoned ass-kicker who Damian should look to for pointers.
Also remembered that Cassandra's Batgirl run is the best thing to come out of Gotham in the early 2000s.
I dunno I think the One Year Later timeskip was just unnecessary.
Kate and Renee are almost as new to the vigilante gig as Damian!
Bat-adjacent Rose Wilson was said to be 14 during her first appearance around Year 15 so she's the same age Tim.
Not Bat related but Lian Harper's age works with my timeline so yay! Born early Year 14, she's 5 during Cry for Justice in Year 19.
I have a theory, based off of Batman #416, that Dick graduated high school at 17. He says he was Bruce's partner for 6 years and that after he was fired; he left college after the 1st semester, then moved around the country, had his own adventures, and "eventually" ended up with the Titans. Also, he was 21 during the Titans' 3rd anniversary (New Titans v2 #71) and 19 when he became Nightwing (Tales of the Titans #44) so the Titans (re-)formed when he was 18. This means he probably only turned 18 in the academic year he began college (or has a summer birthday). So he was Bruce's partner from ages 11-17, did his own thing for a while as he did in the 70s, eventually joined the Titans at 18, and became Nightwing at 19. Jason comes into the picture soon after Dick retires the Robin identity.
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allthegothihopgirls · 25 days
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i sooooo enjoy all the implications of jason making the crudest and most out-there nicknames for dick, and dick just not being insulted by any of it.
he either doesn't have the cares to give anymore, or he's decided it comes from a place of love (which he would be right, because it 100% does)
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mikakuna · 2 months
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jason todd the man that you are!!!
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batcavescolony · 6 months
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Gotta love tiktok, I saw a post about an smexual joke between Batman and Robin so I went 'hey, that's literally his kid', because the robins are his kids, and now people with anime pfp are debating with me, someone with a Batman comic pfp, on Batman's relationship with Robin.
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gecemi09 · 7 months
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Ppl who say jason isn't stealthy, a brawler, reckless, shoot first ask questions later, not the planner type i just want to scream SHUT THE FUCK UP from the top of my LUNGS. DID YOU FUCKING READ UTRH OR NOT?????? I can handle seeing one post like that but seeong several posts like that in sucession makes my blood BOIL. Like??? If jason wasnt incredibly strategic and tactial and prepared how could he have taken over gothams criminal underworld? Or outfox batman with 0 effort in utrh? Please show some literacy i am begging. Also of course he is stealthy. ALL the bats are incredibly stealthy and on top of that he also has assassin training. Why WOULD he be bad at stealthing??? You believe batman being stealthy but not jason? Even though they have similar "body types"?? Just stop making Jason incompetent im begging you
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lesbian-cowpoke · 11 months
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A list of the batsibling's bad outfit choices:
Dick Grayson's Discowing
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(The 80's were no excuse.)
Dick Grayson's Mulletwing
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(He thinks he looks majestic)
Jason Todd's Pill Helmet
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(The Gogo Boots were a serve tho.)
Cass Cain's XL Domino
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(Sorry Cass but that is just NOT IT)
Tim Drake's Condom Cowl
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(This can also be blamed on Jason.)
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audhd-nightwing · 9 months
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okay i cleaned them up & finished them sooo here are dick’s and tim’s wings (& ref photos) in my batfam wings au
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+ basic info abt my batfam wings au
- this is an au where everyone has wings, so they’re not really used to specifically identify people
- most wing patterns are pretty similar and relatively common (they’re a sort of identifying feature like skin tone, hair and eye color pretty much)
- wing span & size is proportional to one’s height, weight, and body mass
- no talons or other birdlike features, just the wings and certain behaviors (whistling, preening feathers, specific food cravings/diet restrictions, etc.)
- clothes are adjusted to accommodate wings
- wings are used to express emotions but mostly basic stuff like fear, anger, happiness, sadness, etc. through behavior (twitching, flaring, puffing up, ruffling, etc.)
+ batfam specific info
- they are all birds of prey (otherwise most of them would be different birds)
- they use their wings to fight. it’s cool as hell and super intimidating
- bruce has the biggest wings of the batfam ofc
- bruce has trained his wings the same way he trained his face and body to present a mask to the world of dumb playboy brucie wayne
- dick and his parents were still in the circus as acrobats, but they incorporated their wings so it was a bit different. anyway what happens is instead of the equipment breaking, dick's parents are shot in midair during a performance. their wings are damaged and they still basically fall to their deaths in front of dick
- dick refused to fly for a while after his parents died, he only started to fly again when he became robin
- jason's wings are damaged after he is killed by the joker, and they aren't fully healed by the pit so he can’t fly very well after it
p.s. part of the reason i chose a golden eagle for dick is because i’ve been reading fics lately where jason calls dick the Golden Child or “Goldie” lol
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giolovesyousm · 1 year
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the poets were keating's beautiful boys </3
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garouaddict · 27 days
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WHY ISHT HE REAL??????
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rosefinch07 · 6 months
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The amount of universes where jaime and jason are so down bad for eachother are astronomical and i know for a fact im right
THREE SEPARATE WAYS NOW THEY HAVE FOUND EACHOTHER WITH MINIMAL GUIDING ON MY PART
College? THEY ARE LOVERS WITHIN A FEW MONTHS
Jaime is a legal intern? THEY ARE ALREADY GONERS WITHIN TWO WEEKS
Blue beetle crashlands in gotham? THEY ARE FLIRTING RELENTLESSLY AND THREATENING ME RATING WISE IN LESS THAN 4 HOURS
The second jaime steps onto gotham soil is the moment that jason pops up out of nowhere and they latch onto eachother like velcro straps i rest my case
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i should probably get a normal hobby instead of squealing over fictional gay ppl, but i don’t think i will
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max-nolastname · 2 years
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jason todd, stephanie brown and duke thomas are absolutely the best robins for gotham; they have the knowledge and perspective on how to best serve their gotham because they actually grew up in the city. they have lived experiences with addiction, poverty, homelessness, foster care etc. that the others don’t have and there’s a lot they can bring to the table in terms of how to best help the most vulnerable populations of gotham. 
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mxrtified777 · 8 months
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help the only thing i can think about is Chris and Nevin dressing up as Sweeney Todd and Mrs. Lovett for Halloween and its KILLING me
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mikakuna · 3 months
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just saw a batfam art and dick was pointing at jason being like "it's not that he's evil. it's just that he lacks empathy"
JASON LACKS EMPATHY?!? JASON????? LACKING EMPATHY?????????????????? EMPATHY????????
does this person know a single thing about jason because his entire character revolves around him having basically too much empathy to know what to do with
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batcavescolony · 1 year
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Jason's not special. Anything he can do Stephanie Brown can do better 💜💜💜
Killed by Parent+Gotham rogue ☑
Revived by Lazarus serum/pit ☑
Complicated Batman relationship ☑
'Spite my Dad' vigilante persona ☑
Underrated Robin ☑
Knocked out Tim in their first meeting ☑
(This is a J-O-K-E Jason stans calm yourself)
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