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queenofthequillandink · 5 months
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Sexualities of the original Ocean's crew, as decided by me and my partner while watching Ocean's 13:
Danny: Straight, but has fucked Rusty. Liked it well enough, but decided that he wasn't into men. Would still do it again.
Rusty: Bisexual, but in denial. Liked fucking Danny way more than Danny liked fucking him and doesn't know what to do with that information.
Basher: Pansexual. Has never once cared what was in someone's pants, unless it was explosives. And then he was even more excited.
Livingston: Too anxious to have a sexuality. Would pass out if put in a situation where he was expected to have sex. Homoromantic.
Linus: Genuinely does not know. Is trying to have whatever the coolest sexuality is, mostly by copying Danny and Rusty, but is getting signals that he doesn't understand due to the "will fuck men platonically" and "deep repression," respectively.
Frank: Straight. I'm sorry, my guy just has very straight energy. Highly vocal ally though. Dated a lot of girls that turned out to be lesbians and loves hanging out with them.
Yen: Slut. The rest of his sexuality doesn't matter. The most important thing is that this man fucks, and he fucks often.
Turk: Straight, but has somehow only managed to ever date trans women. It's not a fetish and he's genuinely not doing it on purpose.
Virgil: Queer. If it happens, it happens. Will only date people who annoy his brother.
Saul: Straight, but only has gay friends. Lived through the hippie 60s and the AIDS crisis. Threw a Molotov cocktail on Reagan's White House lawn.
Reuben: Are you fucking kidding me? Gay.
Bonuses:
Tess: Demisexual. Will become attracted to both men and women, but she has to know them well first. Does not know this about herself.
Roman: Gay and isn't hiding it, but isn't flaunting it either. He'll tell you if you ask, but you do have to ask. Greco is his ex and the guys at boarding school made a LOT of GrecoRoman jokes.
Benedict: Considers having a sexuality a waste of time and energy. Only gets off as a bodily function like any other and doesn't understand why no one else treats sex this way. Has not considered that not everyone feels this way about sex.
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judgeverse · 2 years
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various thoughts and discoveries about basher and reuben in ocean’s 13 (while I’m thinking about it, and for the sake of anybody else who ever noticed Them and their wholesome little love story buried in a heist movie): 
there are two freezeframes where several of basher’s love letters are visible. "Dearest Reuben” is the specific one that made me go “oh THAT’S why the letters...”, but here’s everything I could get. they are amazing. https://pastebin.com/Dzf4R1pw 
“Dearest Reuben, When you want-  loving to someone,-  expressing your feeling is-   ment. When someone you-   physically support yourself-  your feet firmly-  to breathe. Thin- they are trying- When your-  you do it wha- Figure out wh- When everything-  are overwhelming-  comforting.” 
the love letters were not in the original script (they were written by basher but were never opened or read). the gay contents of them, and the plot of healing reuben through the power of love, were added later on. not sure if this was a decision made by the actors, director, or both, but the commentary track on 13 says the following (right at the danny, basher, and reuben ending fireworks scene): 
“A lot of the scenes in this movie we’d had to rewrite many times, but that ending, that came easily. Seeing who those guys were, and getting to find a way to let them express their hearts, was really exciting, and that was a moment where the actors and Steven just completely elevated what we’d been thinking of.”
more info bits under the cut - 
this is very blink-and-miss-it and a YMMV type of thing, but I think there may be an implication basher is gay; linus is uncomfortable with buying him the “mags” (and equally uncomfortable with reading the gay letters out loud), but linus later mentions to the group that he’d learned something in maxim magazine, which he’s fine with reading, bringing up, and discussing (albeit awkwardly). QED, whatever basher wanted him to buy was not that, and my guess is something gay, probably, based on linus’s reaction to the letters also
based on actor heights, basher is 5’8’’ and reuben is 6’3’’. this is important information. 
reuben is not in his 70s omg i saw at least one post in the tag somewhere implying this but no!! based on actor ages, in oceans 11, reuben is early 60s and basher is late 30s. definitely an age difference but hey. basher can set his goals wherever he wants to
basher wrote him at least 13 letters in total, based on counting the envelopes (cinematic parallels!)   
reuben’s mentioned as having an ex wife, which, provided he’s being honest to bank about that, would seem to contrast with the earlier statement that he doesn’t have any family to support him. presumably that wasn’t an amicable divorce (and, I’d guess, probably happened a while ago) and I have a hard time seeing him or basher as anything other than very gay, but it’s an interesting little bit of material for their story, especially in light of reuben not being immune to pressure to conform to others 
this is just a throwaway line from ocean’s 12, but they have a little dialogue piece talking about lifting buildings, where reuben’s like “they did it with the leaning tower of pisa” (which he pronounces pizza lol) and basher’s like “yeah, but it took them 300 men over 2 years to do it” and i just love them both having obscure and specific knowledge, on top of being super smart in their areas
also from ocean’s 12: they’re sitting next to each other in the very last scene with the party! it’s so hard to notice because the scene goes by so fast, but they are. I’ve spent a lot of time wondering how they arrived at the point of Being In Love that they’re at in 13, so that was fun to notice, even if probably not intentional foreshadowing 
two out of the three scripts (ocean's 11 and ocean's 12) had bad scenes completely cut that would've made reuben not be as gay as he is. not sure who vetoed them, but i’m thankful. (the drafts of the scripts are a painful read; I strongly recommend not reading 12 or 13. 11 is okay for the most part.)
that’s all. if you have anything else about them, please add. I crave the knowledge 
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ggh0stggirl · 2 years
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Various Members of the Batfamily as the Oceans Eleven Crew
b/c me and my sibling dearest had this conversation the car the other day & i feel like it & it was very fun to do
1. Danny Ocean (the mastermind): Bruce Wayne, I mean obviously.
2. Reuben Tishkoff (business kingpin): Lucius Fox. After a lengthy discussion it was decided that Reuben would also be Bruce because he would not need outside funding and would (in this universe) own the casino that gets torpedoed by Terry Benidict, but after further consideration Rueben being Lucius makes a shit ton of sense - the person who would keep Bruce’s businesses afloat while arrested, the person who knows Bruce’s ex and his co-conspirators, and the badass who will call you out to your face.
3. Robert “Rusty” Ryan (right-hand man): Selina Kyle. I originally thought Clark Kent because he is Bruce’s best friend. But, Selina is the kind of ride or die bff to show up in front of the prison you’re being released from (for which you were arrested for theft and grifting) just to ask who you are conning and stealing from next. (I don’t actually know enough about Ghostmaker to say this, but I feel like this could be him too.)
4. Tess Ocean (the ex-wife): Clark Kent. Once again, I originally had Selina as my pick here before my wonderful sibling said: “But wouldn’t Clark be the one to be super upset learning Bruce was a thief and con-artist this whole time?” And she’s not wrong. (I can also see this as either the ship or just friendship. Either winning back the love of his life or his best friend.)
5. Saul Bloom (the old pro): Alfred Pennyworth. I mean come on, brought out of retirement by Bruce and co bullying him into it (but really because he never wanted to retire). The line (from memory so could be wrong): “If you ask me that again, you will not wake the following morning.”
6. Linus Caldwell (the thief): Damian Wayne. Very talented, but still new to the trade. Trying to step out of his parents shadows and prove himself. Doesn’t know how to talk to people while grifting.
7. Basher Tarr (munitions expert): Jason Todd. More in it for the thrills than anything, having a really good time, the crew would be dead if not for his thorough knowledge of his craft.
8. Frank Catton (inside man): Dick Grayson. Perfect amount of sunshine to con his way into working in a casino after having been banned from them in other states and the perfect amount of pure chaos to be the one to make a semi-public dramatic scene and get fake arrested.
9. Livingston Dell (tech-guy): Barbara Gordon. Although she doesn’t have Livingston’s anxiety problems, there is no one better suited to handle the tech portion of a heist. (She wouldn’t have to call for help in the third movie.)
10. The Malloy Brothers - Virgil and Turk (wheelmen/con-men/strike instigaters/jack-of-many-trades): Stephanie Brown and Tim Drake. I just see these two pulling off the bickering relationship the best, being able to get perfectly on each others nerves while always 100% having each other’s backs.
11. The Amazing Yen (the grease man): Cassandra Cain. The communicating in a different language (I love a Cass that uses ASL or has selective mutism, etc.). The only person who really does her part of the plan with zero fuck ups (except for the injury to her hand which was caused by someone else fucking up!) I also just imagine her like five feet tall.
12. Terry Benedict (slick business man/the target): Lex Luther. It fits so well. And Clark gets to sass the hell out of Lex and maybe slap him - although I could be remembering that wrong.
I wrote this up very late at night and need sleep, oh well. I couldn’t figure Duke Thomas into this :( Feel free to add more or add who you would have as each character, I love to see it <3
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violet-returned · 9 months
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The Oceans 11 gang as D&D classes
George Clooney as Danny Ocean: Bard. High charisma and proficiency in deception
Bernie Mac as Frank Catton: Barbarian
Brad Pitt as Robert "Rusty" Ryan: Fighter
Elliott Gould as Reuben Tishkoff: wizard
Casey Affleck as Virgil Malloy: artificer
Scott Caan as Turk Malloy:
Eddie Jemison as Livingston Dell: divination wizard
Don Cheadle as Basher Tarr, an explosives expert
Qin Shaobo as "The Amazing" Yen: Rogue
Carl Reiner as Saul Bloom, an elderly con man
Matt Damon as Linus Caldwell, a pickpocket that aids Danny
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marktavaresartist · 2 years
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Elliot Gould celebrated 84 turns around the sun today. He has played an interesting range of characters over his career from Trapper John McIntyre (M*A*S*H) to Reuben Tishkoff (Ocean’s 8-13) with stops in between to occasionally play with Muppets. I did up a couple of quickie digital sketches of those great characters this afternoon because I have to start getting comfortable with doodling in Photoshop once again! #happybirthday #caricature #digitalart #inking #elliottgould #character #iwillgetbetteratthis https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch326iIOqW6/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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oceanselevenism · 3 years
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new love language unlocked its called whatever the fuck was going on w the oceans gang
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Oceans 11 Characters on TikTok
Rusty- C’mon, he’s got everything for a TikTok star. He’s well dressed, funny, charismatic, and pretty. In all of his videos he’s eating something of course, no one would expect anything else. He basically does all of the trends, not to stay popular or anything but because he thinks that they’re fun. One of his favorites was the Pass the Phone challenge that got super personal very quickly and dangled on the edge of them revealing everything.
In all his videos he refers to Danny as “His partner” and Linus as “The baby,” even though everyone knows who he’s dating because it’s the man who is always finishing what Rusty says in the videos from off the the side. People started asking them to to telepathy challenges together, and they do with varying levels of success. Mostly they’re incredibly in-sync with each other, but occasionally something new comes out to each other, and those videos specifically end with someone storming out, slapping the other upside the head, or just straight up kissing the other. By far Rusty’s most popular series, competitive with the ones where he wears a suit to increasing not-suit appropriate areas.
Danny- He does not understand TikTok, but still has an account with a pretty solid following. Extremely poor quality videos, mostly of himself “looking hip,” as he calls it. He overshares a lot, talks about how his wife left him and he fell in love with his best friend, but also is super vague about the weirdest things. That one time Linus almost said the name of the town he was from and Danny lunged across a dining room table to slap a hand over his face is a prime example of this.
He has a few trends that he’s started, such as posting videos that he absolutely did not mean to take, such as the one where he though it was a selfie and stood there with an angry Rusty for almost 20 seconds, or the time he accidentally posted old videos of them doing definitely illegal things in some Vegas Casino, and there are debates whether or not it’s real. After him and Rusty came out as a couple, albeit accidentally in one of Danny’s mistake videos, he started doing this thing where he hands Rusty any food object and tells him it’s a snack. The things he’s gotten him to eat…
Linus-Rocks! He has a place to show off his huge rock collection and connect and learn with people who are just as excited as him about them. He also has a place where he can rant about things he thinks are cool, not that the gang doesn’t want to hear him talk, but because he can have long conversations about them and talk with people who understand a little more than Rusty’s confused “sure…?”
One of the things that he, and the rest of them, got truly TikTok famous for was Linus’ clothes swapping videos. I don’t mean one of the “guess who’s style is who” because it’s always so obvious who’s is who’s. Basher’s look of disgust when he had to wear Turk’s stained t-shirt and sweatpants and Rusty’s smug look when he pulled off Basher’s sweater and scarf perfectly were immediate hits.
Turk and Virgil-Look, I know they’re two different people. As a twin, though, I can 100% confirm that they share an account. They tried having two different ones, but people kept getting confused when they would randomly forget who’s was who’s. They’re content is all over the place. They have no theme, and it’s a guessing game of what’s going to be posted next. Will it be them getting into fight in line for a rollarcoaster or going to build a bear and buying each other the most horrible dressed bears? Who knows?
They do a lot of twin telepathy things, and all of them end terribly. Whether it’s in fist fights, tears, or conversations that should not be had on video, they always deliver with those ones. Sometimes the rest of the 11 stand by and watch, betting on the outcome and eating popcorn/candy from the bowl that always has it just in case.
Yen- King of dance/par core challenges. If someone asks him to do something, or, God forbid, doubts his ability to do something, he’s gonna do it almost instantly. He posts almost constantly because he has zero impulse control, and, in the rest of their videos, can be seen flipping and dancing around whatever place they’re at.
He posts a lot of videos during their mandatory team Mandarin lessons. From Rusty’s confusing and not-normative teaching fo Danny’s utterly confused faces, they earn him a lot of attention, as well as a lot of questions, that he gracefully ignores. Challenges? Yes. Unwanted questions? No.
Reuben-Does not have an account, but is frequently shown in the background of everyone else’s mocking them relentlessly. Occasionally will steal someone’s phone, probably Danny because his password is 1111, and duets old videos with a deadpan face and you can see the life drain out of his eyes. Those videos specifically end in Danny lurching over the closest furniture item to get his phone back and Rueben asking him calmly, “Daniel, are you hiding something on your phone?” Which, yeah, of course he is.
Livingston- He’s very helpful! Mostly he posts how to fix IT problems from home because he’s a little nervous to go out of his comfort zone too much. It doesn’t end up being a problem because he’s in so many of the other’s videos, so he’s able to branch out eventually. (Which is okay, it takes time!)
When he does, a good portion of the videos are the gang doing competitions. His baking championship videos were super popular because the levels that they had were on such different levels. Linus and Basher were by far the best, while Danny and Saul are atrocious. That Don Cheedle snl baking snow video? Yeah, like that. The other competitors he posts are games, both video and board. The most viewed video he’s ever posted (That’s not some super helpful computer/phone tip), was that one time they played Mario Party on teams and there was yelling and flying objects and they got asked at least three times over the course of five videos to be quiet by the hotel staff.
Saul- Somehow was the first one to create an account. He originally started it to show off all the stupid things his friends said, but when he got more onto the app he found accent and POV challenges, which he found very interesting and fun to do. Definitely gets dressed up for them and does the accents, maybe duets with other accounts when appropriate. He’s most known for his evil characters that he plays around with a lot, but also has some super sweet ongoing POVs that don’t get as much attention, but are still appreciated by his followers.
Everyone is So Confused how he knows the rest of them. He’ll say random things, like how he met them at work, but he’s never said what that work actually was or is. Plus, he’s known Rusty and Danny since they were super young, right? How could they work with him all those years. Reuben’s favorite theory that he’s seen was that someone thought they were all part of a Mob, which Rusty thinks is a little close for comfort.
Basher- 60% of the videos are him blowing random stuff up to test if it can. Or putting things in the microwave, or setting things on fire. The other 40% of his videos are fashion based. He’ll show how he makes some of his clothes or model something he’s made in the past. He’s really good with transitions because he thinks they’re neat and likes the way they look.
After he gained a decent following, people started asking about all those guys he lived with, which the followers know about from everyone else’s video. Basher’s voice and, uh, expressions, are pretty easy to spot, so anything he’s in people know it’s him. In response to those, he starts making videos of the rest of the gang trying on clothes that he made them or that they made with varying levels of success. Linus has no idea what he’s doing, but is eager to try even if he ends up never wearing it. Danny is absolutely terrible at it, but so so confident. Rusty has no interest in actually making the clothes, but will try on anything Basher asks him to.
Frank- Most of his videos are where he tells these huge, unbelievable, definitely not true facts for various people on the team. Danny and Livingston almost always fall for it, while Reuben and Rusty almost never do. He’s able to get Linus a few times, but he stopped doing it on him after he convinced Linus that an actual Jurassic Park was opening and Linus was insistent that they go.
Another thing he does is play the best pranks, but, somehow, he’s so not subtle about it at all. You can hear him laughing loudly in all of his videos, even if he’s supposed to be hiding or sitting at the table alone. The rest of them are so tired of them, but most of the time they’re too preoccupied figuring out where the prank is going to be, so they miss it.
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Reuben: You have to apologize to Rusty
Danny: Fine.
Danny to Rusty: 'Unfuck you' or whatever.
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booknerdinglasses · 3 years
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can we just appreciate how much they stick together
I mean they all sorta help danny get his girl back as a side effect of the Benedict gig
They never leave a man behind then
And then Danny even helps with Isabel as a side effect of the Toulour gig
Once again, never leave a man behind
And when that asshole Bank tries to fuck with Reuben, with one of their own, they immediately band together and take him down
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hitchell-mope · 3 years
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Brilliant movie. Just as good as ghostbusters 2016. I’ll almost definitely be watching it again
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mandoreviews · 3 years
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📽 Ocean’s Eleven (2001)
This is not my usual type of movie, but I actually really enjoyed it. I like movies with plot twists and a little suspense, so the elaborate crime where we don’t know all the details until the end was intriguing. I actually wanted to watch the sequels, but never got around to it. I don’t know for sure, but they probably weren’t as good anyway. 😂 The one major grievance with this movie: Don Cheadle’s accent. What even was that??
Sex/nudity: 3/10 (at least one kiss, some sexual references, some female dancers in the casino)
Language: 5/10 (IMDb says 3 f-words but I don’t remember that many, several other things)
Violence: 2/10 (some injuries and fighting but nothing too gory)
Overall rating: 8/10
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rayelovesgreen · 2 years
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Turning the tag i always use in every ocean's 11 post into a certified meme
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incorrect-oceans · 4 years
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Virgil: Say no to drugs
Turk: Say yes to drugs.
Reuben: It doesn't matter what you tell drugs. Because if you're talking to drugs, you're taking them.
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academicgangster · 4 years
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For @vegetarianvampireduck
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oceanselevenism · 3 years
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goodnight to turtleneck enthusiasts who care too much and can't hold a grudge, gayass bisexuals who steal their clothes from ted nugent, anxious pickpockets who think the nose plays, even more anxious programmers who sweat through 3 shirts a day, carl reiner, manlets who can fit into an arsenal bag, woke kings whose sisters use aloe vera, 70something bears renowned for their business sechel, people who know their string theory (bitch), people who don’t know their string theory (bitch), and basher
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