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kineticallyanywhere · 4 months
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Matt "I can and will remind everyone that Link is REALLY wierd about Normal with like no real explination at this point" Arnold out here like "let me see if I can underminine my entire point in this character arc defining interaction" and I unironically love him for it Link is SUCH a messy b word rn
(this turned into a long response, let's talk Fascinating Character Flaws!)
I dont think it's so much that he's weird about Normal, if I'm understanding what you mean by 'weird', especially in this episode. I feel like it circles back to what I keep thinking about, which is his newest teen fact. the one where he-- does this count as poisoning? he made other children ill in a fit of jealousy for anyone having any time with his dads.
listen, I've had many homeschooled friends. At one point in college I was the "actually went to public school" member of the friend group. People can go in and out of homeschooling and be... not whatever the heck Link has going on. I was excited for him when that fact started, like, "oh he was part of a cohort!" until uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!
(the following are thoughts that I'm still developing in my head as I type and probably after I post)
whether it's due to the overprotective parenting or just Link's nature or a Symptom of a Condition (op has their own Condition but is not a psychologist) Link's got an issue with like. not getting what he wants? not usually in super obvious ways, it's not spelled out, he doesn't throw tantrums or anything. unless you count the thing at Normal about Normal not wanting to do "cool plans." and most of the time he doesn't want anything complicated, his wants have been pretty straight forward and in line with what anyone would want in these circumstances. he wants people to not die is the big major one, he wants to not feel betrayed again, he wants his friends to stop fighting, he wants to get this over with NOW. and he's been going through so much of not getting what he wants (COMPLETELY REASONABLE THINGS TO WANT, IN THIS CASE. TRAUMATIC THINGS TO NOT GET) that he seems to not know what he wants at all anymore.
like, his understanding of the world has been rocked so bad that he's pretty sure all those things I just listed just aren't things he can have. in the past whenever he needled his parents or acted out or did certain things he'd get what he wanted. not to say that he's spoiled but uh... okay yeah I am saying that a bit. but mostly in the ways that it keeps him from developing the coping mechanisms for when you ask something from life and it punches you in the teeth instead.
So in a world where he doesn't know how to get what he wants and maybe he isn't sure what he even can want, he's kinda just shutting down internally. In the mean time, he may as well make sure his friends get what they want, and then maybe at some point he'll want something again. so, in a way, what he wants is to feel and want something, so that "wants what he wants" part of him snapped out again at Normal with "well at least you're feeling something." in other words, "you have the thing that I want right now, and I'm gonna sound pretty bitter about not having it myself" which is an effed up thing to say when that thing he's having is a mental breakdown.
Link. Buddy. Bud. Kiddo. Pal. you need Help.
tl;dr and conclusion: imo for their mental health the party should split into Link & Taylor and Scary & Normal again for an episode or two. Norm and Scary for hopefully obvious reasons; and Link and Taylor because while Taylor is unquestionably a rich kid spoiled for material goods who is very good at wanting things, he is also a kid who's mom knows how to say "No. Absolutely Not. Give me the knife right now I don't care what seppuku is" and who's dad left an emotional void for over a decade that he is clearly adept in coping with and he could give Link some pointers.
also because it would be a cool callback and parallel to early episodes to do those pairs again. see how they've changed and stuff
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egophiliac · 8 months
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this is all I can muster right now, too busy having my brain absolutely melted by the September schedule, what is happening
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It's really not his hand.
Mothra shouldn't have left them alone together...
From this:
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not-kat · 1 month
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randomly got the urge to revisit an old flame
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aeymii · 14 days
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Sometimes, you just gotta sit back and draw this a-hole✨
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gh0ullie · 2 years
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breeding!
[Itto+ Ayato + Childe + Gorou]
NSFW, 18+, Minors do not interact!
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tags: breeding, impregnation, mating press (itto), aphrodisiac (ayato), light bdsm(childe), heat cycles (gorou), knotting (gorou)
Itto
He’d always wanted to be a dad. Pride as an oni meant a fervent desire to further his line, and Itto knew by now that he wanted to do so with his lovely girlfriend: you. He’d tried to be casual when he brought it up, but had fumbled the conversation and blurted out his true thoughts. “I want to breed you like a cow.” You’d blushingly agreed, not letting on the extent of how much the idea turned you on. 
He’d gone to the lengths of abstaining for the past week, and as pent up as he was Itto was desperate to shoot his massive load inside of you. When you walked into the room in nothing but a tiny bit of frilly lingerie, his heart nearly leapt out of his chest. 
Now, pinned beneath him, he makes short work of getting you prepped and ready. Filthy squelching emanates throughout the room as he pumps you with his large, thick fingers. 
“Itto,” you mewl beneath him, “I’m wet enough… put it in.”
Like you’d flipped a switch, he’s pulled out his fingers and positioned himself at your entrance in what feels like just a second. He grabs each of your legs in one hand, and presses them up towards your chest, crouched over you like a beast ready to devour his prey. Moving one hand back to his cock, a low, grumbling moan falls from his lips as he rubs it against the wet folds of your pussy, ghosting the tip over your clit as he does so. 
Then, leaning forward and pressing you to the mattress, he slides all the way inside. You’ve never felt him this deep before, and it shows, your jaw hanging open as you cry out his name again and again. Powerful thrusts reach deep inside of you as his balls slap against your ass. It almost hurts, but the waves of immense pleasure drown out anything else. 
“I’m going to pump you full of so much cum,” he tells you. 
“Yes, please!” you cry. “Fill me up! I want your baby!” 
You can feel him pulsate inside of you and your cunt twitches around him. His rhythm gets more and more frantic, the weight of him pressing down on you heavy and intense and incredible. You feel yourself coming close to your own orgasm.
When he cums, the position you’re in – Itto’s cock nearly vertical inside you – drives the hot spend straight to your core. There’s so much of it, and the sensation is incredible. It pushes you over the edge, drawing tears from your eyes and turning you into a moaning mess. For good measure, he fucks his load deeper inside of you with a few more hard thrusts, before finally relaxing, his cock warm and comfortable inside of you. 
He leans over and kisses you deeply, with so much love it’s nearly overwhelming.
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Ayato
Heir to the Kamisato clan. That title came with responsibilities, and all his life Ayato knew he’d one day have to produce an heir of his own. When he met you, he knew you were the one. The thought of you, tits heavy with milk, belly round with his child inside… it was almost too much for Ayato to bear. This thought always lingered at the back of his mind as he courted you, and now, finally, it was time for him to truly make you his. 
“Are you ready?” he asks as he leans over your naked form, one hand on your hip, the other on your knee. As you looked into his eyes, they sparkled with anticipation. 
You nod, and he gets to work. He spreads you open, and takes in the sight. You blush profusely at the intensity of the stare, and shut your eyes. You hear Ayato fishing something from his pockets, then hear the clink of something made of glass. You gasp as something cold hits your pussy, and your eyes snap open. A trail of viscous liquid flows from a small glass vial onto your sex, coating your folds in a sticky mess. 
“This should help,” he says softly, a smile on his face. “You should start to warm up soon.” 
And you do. The cold melts into the heat of your body, and quickly turns you even hotter than you had been. The sticky liquid drips into your entrance, mixing with your own heated arousal. 
Ayato reaches down and pulls his length from his pants, stroking himself a few times before positioning himself at your entrance. 
“Are you ready?” he asks, his voice soft and reassuring. “I’m going to get you pregnant, you know.” You nod vigorously, and he slides his way inside. 
Even with the lube, his girth is a lot to handle without any foreplay. He knows this, and takes it slowly. Every inch that slides in sends a new wave of pleasure washing over you, and you try not to clench yourself around him, it’s tight enough as it is. 
Slowly but surely, you loosen up, the lube heating you up and getting your juices flowing even more quickly than usual. Ayato finds his pace, gently thrusting inside of you deeper and deeper each time. Before long, you’re both panting heavily.
Ayato reaches a hand up and strokes your cheek as he thrusts ever more vigorously. He’s close to coming undone. Nuzzling into his hand, you whisper his name between pants. 
“Ayato… hurry… cum inside,” you whimper.
“Oh, are you that eager to have my child?” he teases. 
You nod vigorously. “I want your baby, Ayato. Please, hurry!” 
He can’t resist your pleas. Moving both hands to your hips, he presses you down against his cock with each thrust. It’s so deep inside you know that you feel completely and utterly full when he thrusts in, and your walls clench down to try their best to keep him there. Faster and faster he thrusts, the noise of skin slapping against skin echoing through the room, until finally… 
With a long, low moan, Ayato blows his noble load inside of you. You can feel the semen coating your insides, hot and thick. 
You don’t even get a chance to rest before he starts thrusting again. 
“You didn’t think we were done, did you?” Ayato says, his voice sly. “Once isn’t nearly enough to guarantee an heir, you know. We’re going to go all night.” 
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Childe
For Childe, it was a sense of possessiveness that filled his mind with the thoughts of impregnating you. He wanted to make you his, truly and completely. 
“My darling,” he says, his voice sugared, as he slides the collar onto your neck. “I’m going to breed you like the bitch you are, isn’t that exciting?” 
You nod, your eyes sparkling. 
“Good. Now open your mouth.” 
He stands up from his kneeling position and unfastens his pants as you oblige. Whipping his dick out, he wastes no time moving it to your parted lips, shoving it past them and into your waiting mouth. You get to work immediately. Bobbing your head up and down his cock, your tongue running along the bottom as you go, you can feel yourself heating up down below just from the girth of him in your mouth. 
He tangles his fingers through your hair, guiding you up and down his length with an increasingly rough hand. After a few minutes of his breathing gradually getting heavier, he pulls you off of him with a pop. 
“Right then,” he says, letting go of your hair and grabbing the leash he’s attached to the collar. He lifts you off of your knees and turns, guiding you to the bed and tossing you down onto it roughly. 
He climbs up over you, spreading your knees and grinning at the mess he sees between your legs. 
“So wet already! Eager, are we?” he teases. You flush and nod, and he laughs. 
He runs a finger along your slick folds, eliciting a moan. Spreading your legs even further apart with his free hand, he slides the finger inside, curling it upwards and raking it along the top of your cunt. He pulls it out as you mewl beneath him, bringing the finger to his lips and licking the juices away. 
“Look at that, I don’t even need to prep you,” he says, his voice praising. He moves the hand to his cock, guiding himself to his entrance. You greedily swallow him up as he pushes inside, the both of you moaning in tandem.
Wasting no time, he gets to work bucking his hips, reaching deep into your core with his impressive length. He rubs a hand over your belly, right above where he’s thrusting into you.
“I’m going to fill you alllll the way up, right here,” he says, “I’ll fill you up so much there’s no way you won’t get pregnant.” 
You tighten around him. He pauses at the grip, before yanking the leash, pulling you up into a kiss. As his tongue snakes it’s way between your lips, he keeps going, thrusting faster and rougher as you both approach climax. When he lets loose inside of you, the hot rush of cum spurting inside sends you over the edge. Your cunt milks his cock for every drop, before the two of you finally collapse in a sweaty pile of limbs. 
“So,” Childe says, “Round two?” 
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Gorou
He’s been acting strange lately. More impulsive, snappier and much, much touchier. You’ve finally worked up the courage to confront him about it, and now here you are, staring him down as he avoids your gaze.
“It’s heat,” he finally says, scratching his chin and looking down at the floor. You can see heat rising in his cheeks. “My kind go into heat. I’ve been taking steps to suppress it but… there’s only so much that magic and medicine can do.” 
Your face explodes in a blush. This wasn’t what you were expecting, not at all. Your own gaze wanders to the floor, and a thought flashes into your head as the awkward silence sits heavy between you. 
“If it’s heat, then don’t you just need to breed?” you ask. “Won’t you feel better after that?”
 His head snaps up at this, and he stares at you, his jaw hanging open. 
“It… it would probably help,” he admits after a few moments of gawking. 
With a deep breath for courage, you crawl across the floor towards him. 
“Then let’s do it,” you tell him. 
He looks like he wants to protest, but when you trail a hand down his abdomen, his base urges take control. He pushes you into the floor, pinning your hands and kissing you deeply. You moan into the kiss, and this draws a moan from him in turn. Your tongues swirl around each other, his sharp canines scraping across your bottom lip. 
A knee comes up between your legs, spreading them apart. His tail is flitting this way and that, and a hand moves from your wrist to your chest, pawing at your greedily through your clothes. 
When you pull away from the kiss for breath, he moves immediately to your neck, seemingly not wanting to waste even a second. 
“Gorou… Gorou slow down, let me get my clothes off,” you laugh though your heavy breaths.
“S-sorry!” he says, seeming to snap back into himself., he leans back onto his knees, freeing you to pull your top up over your head. He waits patiently as you peel your underwear off as well, before giving him a nod. Then he’s right back on you, nuzzling into your neck as his hands roam across your body. 
Soon, one hand drifts to his pants, from which he pulls out his rock hard cock. You can see that it’s already dripping, and realize just how much he needs this. Reaching down, you rub a few circles around your clit, before using two fingers to spread yourself wide. 
“Gorou,” you whine, “I’m ready. Fill me up, right here.” 
His tongue hangs halfway out of his mouth in a pant as he takes in the view of you, spread wide, his eyes sparkling with desire. Then he obliges, sliding his way in and immediately setting to work pumping inside of you. 
As deep in heat as he is, it doesn’t take long for him to come. You gasp as you can feel his engorged heat expanding inside of you, knotting into place as he rides out his long orgasm. The feeling of his hot seed spreading out deep inside of you, combined with the comfortable fullness of his knot gets you going. As he comes down from his climax, you wrap your arms around his neck, pulling him in close. 
“Don’t stop,” you whisper into his ear. Perking up, he nods. You’re in for a long night, it seems.
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yuwuta · 6 days
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yuuta exhibits such previously abandoned, recently adopted dog behavior. incredibly anxious all the time, even though nobody’s out to get him or leave him behind. waits for you to return home or from school or from work excitedly, just to see you when you walk through the door. follows you around senselessly, hovering in your space just for the sake of companionship. initiates affection in prodding ways—starts off next to you, then a hand on your thigh, then deems it safe to lay all the way down, then slowly pushes his head into your lap. gets up whenever you need to get up, and resumes his position as soon as you’re ready. brings you gifts as a sign that he’s thinking of you, and maybe because he likes the affection it brings out in you, maybe because he likes the gentle affirming touches of a hand in his hair or a pinch to his cheek. rests his head on your stomach or his chin on your shoulder when he’s sleepy, stays there, immobile, and will not move unless absolutely necessary. sometimes he gets surprised when he hears you calling for him, there’s a moment of disbelief as he thinks “me? really? you need me?” but it’s very quickly overshadowed by this compulsive need to show up, to please, to do anything for you, which is why he always answers when you call. he doesn’t realize that he has puppygod eyes, especially when he’s excited or confused, but he does and it’s incredible endearing. very reluctant to share your space or attention after a while, considers that to be sacred and he won’t risk being let go or lost again, so as a safety precaution, he keeps himself right by you, waits for you always. 
#atp i need to shut and write the omega verse fics that consistency plague my mind#but while im here time for my obligatory megumi mention bc i mentioned dogs teehee#yes megumi attack dog hes megumi grumbly yes megumi bark bark bite bite BUT BUT BUTTTT#megumi is also used to like... hm........ taming? having? caring for? people in his life and also literal (divine) dogs#so for him yes he bites and barks#but he also... he gets confused if YOU dont follow him around like a puppy bc everyone else in his life has so why not you?#gojo's always been the annoying yapping pomeranian chewing on his arm even if he didn't ask#always in megumi's space even tho he didn't ask but he learned to deal with it#won't admit it but knows that too much attention is better than having someone who couldn't give a shit about you#yuuji is the golden in everybody's life and megumi is no exception#unmovable unshakeable and incredibly addictive even if he doesn't mean to be#and very very attached to the people he cares about so yeah yuuji is loud and annoying but he's also loyal and megumi respects that so fine#nobara is like... she decided she liked megumi and was upset about it so she bit his ankle and he tried to kick her off but she has too muc#pride to get shaken off by someone as scrawny as megumi and somewhere along the way megumi became impressed that she was still there even i#it hurt a bit and she was a little rough it's not like he was worse so fine whatever she can stay too#so if you like... if you dont hover around megumi if you dont pry if you dont prod then he has to be the dog smh#now he's gotta bite for your attention and nudge you and how annoying. he's gonna keep doing it tho. as long as he has to#or until you learn to fall in line and accept your leash too whichever comes first n e way.... anyway.............#somebody's pampered omega always gets what he wants megumi complex is showing......#this was about yuuta right? ok i'll put his tags now....#juju#jujutsu kaisen smut#jjk x reader#jjk smut#jjk fluff#jujutsu kaisen x reader#yuuta okkotsu x reader#yuta okkotsu x reader
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ashleyslorens · 26 days
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AARON TVEIT as Mike Warren GRACELAND S3
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somegrumpynerd · 2 months
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Truce au part 6 - Time to tell the teams
Start Last Next
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soulfireblue · 4 months
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remembering how tubbo and cellbit being siblings was a pretty popular headcanon before bagi joined, and then people headcanoned the three of them as siblings. but i think that what we've ended up with is tubbo and bagi as siblings, removed from cellbit. i don't usually like to assign found family traditional family roles, but in this case, i think it being specifically a sibling role is important.
because bagi's spent so long chasing after a brother who doesn't want her. so she's gone "fine, then. i'll find myself one who does." and tubbo certainly wants her around! he doesn't mind her stealing from him. he chose her for his team the first time around, despite the one-sided tension they'd originally had.
she went to purgatory for her coach. she said she'd stick her hand in the fire for him. and they didn't win, but they get to walk out together, so i think bagi won, honestly. there's also the mutual bickering and the stealing, but that's part of it too. and there's so much mutual respect there as well.
anyway. i love seeing them hang out and i hope they hang out even more going forward, not just for themselves but also for sunny and empanada <3 because they're siblings too and i love them and i wish they got to see more of each other!
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platykool · 9 months
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phoenixcatch7 · 1 year
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The Wayne doll house
Have some haunted doll au, since it's been bubbling away in my mind.
The bat cave is large and sprawling, many layers and tunnels and hollowed out cracks in the walls. It takes many years to fully reinforce to prevent stray kids from tripping into stagnant waters or fall down crags as he once did. The doll cave, as it becomes known, is in one of the deepest, darkest corners, one where the lights of the furnished caverns above don't reach.
It's one late night sitting at the computer when it suddenly occurs to Bruce that his first encounter with a doll was at the well entrance, many levels above.
There was nothing there when he went back.
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The justice league stared at the subaru. The subaru, having no eyes, did not stare back.
The seven of them had just finished a very long, arduous mission, and narrowly escaped government censure after the base they'd been raiding had turned out to belong to some corrupt official. With the alert up, they couldn't escape through city airspace, or even in their hero suits.
So civilian it was.
Batman had hotwired some bloke's car while the rest of them ducked into alleys and shop bathrooms, but the problem remained. There was seven of them. And five seats.
"I can shift into something more suitable for being carried," suggested j'onn, "but I believe one of us might have to hide."
"Foot well?" Hal tried, and everyone looked around at the tall, bulky, broad heroes.
"Think they'd have to go in the boot," Barry finally said. Everyone immediately turned to him. "No."
Batman spoke up before the discussion could devolve.
"I think.... I would be best for that."
The team stared.
"Batsy?"
Having no lungs meant he could not drag in the tired sigh he wished, but whatever force allowed this body to talk was capable of approximating something suitably resigned.
"As I am, I am... incapable of fully passing as human. It would be best if I remained out of sight."
"So just? Go change? I swear we won't be weird about whoever you are under the mask. Even if you're like, bald."
"Thank you, Wally, but I'm afraid I'm being serious." Reaching for the mask in broad daylight was unpleasant, but the glue and wires held as he gave it a few thorough tugs. "It doesn't detach."
Everyone stared. Clark reached out as if he wanted to check, but withdrew.
"Do you even have a civilian identity??" Oliver eventually asked. "Because at this point I'm genuinely not sure."
Wayne Enterprises and Queen Industries had a meeting that same evening. "Hn."
"Can we go back to the 'incapable of passing as human' part?!"
"We can discuss it in the car," he snapped, stalking past Barry and popping the boot. "In case you haven't forgotten, we're on a time limit."
For once, that seemed to encourage them, and batman, with great dignity, folded his joints and cape into the small space, ignoring Hal's mutter of 'what kind of contortionist -' as he slammed the lid. With a little shuffling he managed to activate his comms.
"I will inform the watchtower of our delay."
"Batman, they're tapping all outgoing signals, you can't -"
"It won't trigger," he interrupted, before he twisted his consciousness and sent it spiralling across the country.
Bruce awoke with a groan, stretching his limbs and taking a moment to marinate in his annoyance before he reached for the comm and voice modulator on the beside table.
"Batman to watchtower, we've encountered delays. If the Texan state government calls we haven't entered the state in six weeks. Batman out."
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"Alien?"
"No."
"Reanimated corpse?"
"No."
"Uh... Demon?"
"Hm. No."
"You're not just a meta human, are you?"
"No."
"Vampire?"
"No."
"Robot??"
"No."
"Batsy, please, someone's got to win the bet eventually. How do we even know you're not lying?!"
"You don't," Batman said, not looking up from his paperwork and Flash groaned, letting his sticky notes fall to the floor as he buried his head in his arms.
"One day," he bemoaned to the keyboard, "one day we'll figure it out."
"Until then please keep your eyes on the monitors."
Flash groaned again.
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Robin ducked under superman's arm as he scuttled down the corridor, laden with the night's haul of snacks. The real problem wasn't getting them - stopping league members from raiding the kitchen would be extremely counterproductive - but keeping them until he could return home to his human body to eat them. Batman had started searching him each time they left and it was really cutting into his daily sugar intake. Unfair! Just because he didn't actually use energy to stay up my night to fight crime, it felt like he did!!
'Oh, you're broken, Robin, oh, don't go out until the glue has fully set, Robin' his arm was fine! It wasn't like there was much crime to be fought on the watchtower anyway! At least not physically.
So he was pretty pleased with himself until he went to set the snacks down and found that the tar like glue they used had soaked through the sleeve and gotten all over his chocolates.
With his other hand, he tried to pry them off, wincing as the wrappers tore and stuck. He tried to shake it, ignoring the way his elbow rattled in the joint.
"Come on, come on - aw, cheezits."
The arm fell off. Robin stared despondently at the limb, surrounded by torn wrappers and dripping black glue where it connected to the elbow. The sour stink of formaldehyde filled the air.
He was going to be in such trouble with Bruce.
The click of the door jerked his head up.
Flash stood in the doorway, wide eyed. Robin stared back.
Flash screamed.
Oh yeah @dehydratedmockingbird have a thing
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humblefryingpan · 5 days
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Sometimes I forget how angry people get about ships that aren't harmful 😅
Tim Drake is canonly bi and he has a boyfriend. People ship him with his ex girlfriend. Both of those ships are completely fine, I think timbern is cute and I don't ship timsteph but I get they were together a while and people like them.
That being said I made a poll to see which Tim ship is most popular (I enjoy seeing what people think yk, it's entertaining) and Steph was one of the options but so was Bernard and someone rebloged it saying if timsteph didn't win it would be misogyny?
Neither of them are winning btw lol, connor is which is its own weirdly controversial thing
The thing is-
Timsteph isn't a bad ship. They were together a while, they were cute. Lots of people grew up with timsteph and like them.
Timbern isn't a bad ship. Just because Tim's dating a guy now doesn't mean he hates Steph or anything, he just moved on (and so did Steph!) and he's bisexual, he isn't just suddenly gay. They're cute too, and it's nice to see representation.
Timkon also isn't a bad ship. They're close friends which is the base to a good relationship, if they got together it'd also be good.
You know what is a bad ship? Tim and Jason. Or Damian, or Dick, or Bruce. And yet I see more people mad about shipping Tim with his boyfriend or his ex girlfriend or his best friend than I see people mad about shipping him with his siblings and his dad.
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lotus-pear · 2 years
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layla >>> everyone else
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Fuck, I'm here again. Goddammit. I've been doing well. I've been keeping Jiang Cheng off my mind (and my computer screen). Things have been peaceful.
And then today happened.
Again, a fic. Again, not naming names, both because that's rude and also because this issue is hardly specific to one fic alone. I've seen it many times.
But I've been pacing for half an hour, too agitated to keep reading, so I'm just gonna get this off my chest, and then skim through the fic 'til it stops talking about it.
I need to talk about the golden core reveal.
Specifically, I need to talk about an attitude I've seen cropping up recently in a lot of fics. (By recently, I don't mean it's only recent fics that do it, just that I've only noticed it recently.)
So it'll be a fic, usually canon divergent, but prior to the golden core reveal. Wen Ning or Wen Qing will often be involved (though I can think of a few times it was Lan Wangji). And the character, who knows the truth about the golden core transfer, will urge Wei Wuxian to tell Jiang Cheng.
They'll say "you have to tell him". They'll say "he'll find out eventually". They'll say "he deserves to know".
And... the fic will support this.
Will frame Wei Wuxian as irrational, paranoid even, to keep it secret.
Will sometimes even punish him, narratively, for his "failure" to disclose such a thing.
And I am... completely baffled.
Where the fuck is this coming from?
I suppose, if I'm being generous, I can kind of see why an individual sympathising with Jiang Cheng might have a knee-jerk reaction to this. If you see them as being essentially family, the idea that a family member that you love deeply, keeping what amounts to both a huge sacrifice and a massive disability from you would be extremely painful. You might feel hurt, that they didn't tell you. Angry, at the implied lack of trust.
I get it, as an emotional response you might have in the moment. I don't find it particularly relatable, but I can follow the thought process.
But like... that's an emotional response. Surely, at some point, logic has to kick in, right?
Because the thing is. Okay, there's two aspects to the secret, right? One, is that a medical procedure was done to Jiang Cheng, sort of like an organ transplant, I suppose, but he wasn't told that the organ was donated by Wei Wuxian. And the other is that Wei Wuxian made this huge sacrifice for Jiang Cheng, and didn't tell him.
But thinking about this for even five minutes should tell you that... neither of those things are actually Wei Wuxian's responsibility to deal with?
The first one is the by far the more common argument I've seen. I've read fics where Wen Ning and Wen Qing are tortured with guilt over having performed the procedure without telling Jiang Cheng all the details. I've even seen people have them blame Wei Wuxian, for demanding they keep it secret, had them secretly resent him for it. He's portrayed as deeply selfish, for keeping the truth of Jiang Cheng's operation from him.
But the thing is... if you're going to apply modern medical ethics to the situation... Wei Wuxian was in the right? They all were?
Under modern medical ethics, you have no right to know the identity of your organ donor. That can feel a little weird (it's probably why people often have a knee-jerk reaction that demands the opposite); after all, it's my body, shouldn't I have a right to know where the organ that goes in it comes from? What if it has cooties?
But according to medical ethics, the donor's right to medical privacy is more protected that the recipient's right to that information. Right to medical privacy is pretty highly valued; it kind of ties into body autonomy, which is kind of the keystone of... most modern ethics. You have a right to control what happens to your body, and that includes controlling whether or not people know about any medical conditions/procedures. So you might have an emotional response, thinking Jiang Cheng is valid for being upset that his golden core came from Wei Wuxian without him knowing, but... ethically, Wei Wuxian has the right to withhold that information.
But! some scarecrow says, If a person has the right to control what procedures happen to their body, surely that means Jiang Cheng has a right to control what happens to his own body! Therefore, the procedure was still unethical, because he didn't know everything!
And I say, well... not really. The reality is, we don't actually know how much Jiang Cheng was told. He was told to walk up a mountain, lie to the person he encountered about his identity, and ask for a golden core. And he left that mountain with said golden core... but we don't know how much Wen Qing told him when he reached the top. We know he believed Wen Qing was the Baoshan Sanren. We know he received a fully developed core, not just the ability to form a new one. Was he told that the core was from someone else? Were there signs of the transfer? Did he know the chance of success/failure? Did he not find any of the situation dubious?
(Did he really spend two and a half years fighting a war alongside, and then running a sect for a year with, someone and not realise they didn't use orthodox cultivation even once?)
The truth is, a doctor is required to inform a patient of risks, and answer any questions they ask. Wen Qing may well have disclosed the risk (if there was any to Jiang Cheng, other than potentially the transfer failing) prior to the surgery, we just don't know. We don't have any evidence that Jiang Cheng asked any questions, and from what we see in the novel, it seems likely that he simply didn't want to know. He got a core, his life was somewhat back on track; we never see any evidence of curiosity or confusion in him as to the specifics of how that happened.
The only lie we are sure that he was told was the identity of the person who he met on the mountain, who "gave" him the core. I could be petty and point out that as he was also lying about his identity, it kind of cancels out, but that would be a bit ridiculous, and unnecessary besides. The truth is, ethically, Wen Qing could have knocked him out and performed the surgery from the comfort of her own office. Because one of, if not the main reason you can ethically violate someone's body autonomy... is to save a life. And Jiang Cheng, after losing first his family and sect, and then his golden core, displayed clear suicidal ideation. He indicated, repeatedly, that he wanted to die. He refused food. Wei Wuxian even doubled checked, before giving him hope of getting a new core, that he was serious! (Rereading that scene is horrible; Wei Wuxian's dread, and eventual resignation/resolve becomes very apparent once you know what's happening).
The characters around him, including a trained doctor, believed that if he didn't get a new core, he would give up and die. Under those circumstances, a doctor has authority to make medical decisions, without a patients consent, if they believe it is a medical emergency. Wen Qing was an unquestionably brilliant doctor; if she believed doing the surgery was the right/necessary decision, who the hell are we to dispute her?
So, to be clear, under modern medical ethics (which seems to be what is being applied in these claims), Wen Qing has the right to do whatever surgery she feels necessary to save the life of her patient, no consent needed, and Wei Wuxian has the right to keep his identity as the donor a secret, since that's his own private medical history. Modern medical ethics (a bit ridiculous, when talking about magic powers, but I've seen the argument) supports our protagonist.
Now, onto the other thing. This is a lot less... ethics discussion and a lot more feels-bad-so-wrong type thing. Wei Wuxian kept the loss of his golden core a secret.
Jiang Cheng being upset by this is understandable. Like I said, I can follow the emotion/logic. Someone keeping a big secret from you can be hurtful.
But just because it's hurtful to you, doesn't mean they're in the wrong to do it!
If someone I cared about kept a massive secret from me, and I found out, I'd be upset! But my first thought would be 'Why did they feel they couldn't tell me?' And the answer here is obvious; Wei Wuxian didn't think he could tell Jiang Cheng because he knew he'd be horrible about it! Wei Wuxian admits, after the reveal, that the process of losing his core was distressing, and that he wasn't as okay with it as he pretended to be. If something like that happens to you (not... that it can, but, you know, equivalent), and you're struggling to hold it together, the last thing you want is someone you care about yelling at you about it, insulting you, making you feel bad for what happened!
Wei Wuxian didn't tell Jiang Cheng because he knew Jiang Cheng would be awful to him because of it. Jiang Cheng's jealousy when they were young was something Wei Wuxian felt he had to manage*, and he knew Jiang Cheng would feel inadequate if he realised his accomplishments were made with Wei Wuxian's core. And he would then lash out at Wei Wuxian for it, at a time when Wei Wuxian was already feeling emotionally fragile. Hell, nearly twenty years later, Jiang Cheng getting up in his face was enough to cause a Qi deviation; I can't imagine it would have been better any sooner!
No one wants to think of the people they love keeping secrets from them. And sometimes, people who keep secrets are doing it for their own sake, because they're scared, or unsure, or guilty, or whatever. But sometimes, when a person keeps a secret, the reason is not internal. If someone acts horribly to you when you tell them things, you're going to stop telling them things. And the person responsible for that gap in communication is them; all you're doing is protecting yourself.
And before anyone thinks that I'm assigning reasoning to Wei Wuxian that he doesn't have; he essentially admits it. After the reveal, Wei Wuxian states that he knew Jiang Cheng would react badly (though he didn't expect it to be quite so bad). Wei Wuxian is shown to have been managing Jiang Cheng's moods since they were young**, it's probably not the first secret he's kept. But that's kind of just... how that works; if a king kills every person who brings him bad news, eventually, all his advisors will only ever bring him good news. And he has no one to blame when his kingdom falls but himself.
SO. tl;dr. Modern medical ethics supports Wen Qing performing the golden core transfer, and Wei Wuxian keeping his identity as the donor a secret. Jiang Cheng can be upset at Wei Wuxian for not telling him that he no longer has a core, but it's not unethical, or selfish, and the nature of their relationship, with Jiang Cheng lashing out with impunity and Wei Wuxian trying to manage his moods, meant that secrets like that were pretty much inevitable. Unhealthy relationships are unhealthy. Truly, newsworthy take.
And one final note, on Wei Wuxian keeping secrets from Jiang Cheng and being portrayed as selfish for doing so; I have yet to see a. single. fic. that says Wei Wuxian keeping his sacrifice secret is wrong, but then goes on hold Jiang Cheng equally accountable for keeping his sacrifice secret. Not. One. Jiang Cheng often tells Wei Wuxian afterwards, that he deliberately got the Wens attention, but he's never framed as selfish for keeping that secret. Not. Once.
* see post-Xuanwu argument, when Wei Wuxian drags himself out of his sick bed, having just woken up from a coma, to reassure Jiang Cheng that he's no threat to his birthright. Because Jiang Cheng was jealous that his father acknowledged Wei Wuxian's skill in surviving, under horrendous circumstances. -_-
** childhood flashback; after arriving in a new place, having a massive change in lifestyle and meeting many new people (and, it seems, trying to make a good impression), Wei Wuxian took the blame for his broken leg, despite it being because Jiang Cheng locked him out of his room and threatened to sic dogs on him. Entirely because he knew one of them would get blamed, and he wanted to keep Jiang Cheng happy. People who grow up with aggressive/abusive family/people around often end up learning to juggle mood changes.
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