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turntechgaykid · 1 month

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Mischaracterizing Nico di angelo as some 'shy gay boi' instead of a teen who was raised in homophobic, early dictatorship 1924 Italy is gross.

Nico isn't shy or embarrassed about his queerness the boy has internalized homophobia, 1920s Italy was not a safe place for queer people and Nico's early experience with queer people was likely seeing them belittled, berated or abused.

I would put actual money on saying that Nico's first reaction to his own or others queerness isnt embarrassment or confusion but revulsion, fear, shame or hate for it, especially after dealing with feelings of isolation and otherness from both Camp half blood and Camp Jupiter.

He isn't some cutesy shy boy who gets flustered he's a teenager struggling to accept and understand himself after, in his formative years, most likely being told what he feels is wrong, shameful or unnatural.

(also not to mention the culture shock it would've been for him to see queerness an gayness being accepted in the 21st century and in both ancient Greek/Rome an how he'd have to rationalize that with his already made world view)

#pjo #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson #heroes of olympus #hoo #pjo hoo toa #nico di angelo #bianca di angelo #1924 Italy #nico my poor boy #internalized homophobia #homophobia #camp half blood #camp jupiter #mischaracterization #jasico #jasico my beloved

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lilith-91 · 17 days

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Fandom: "Katara is Aang/Gaang mother"

Katara:

Y'all should rewatch this episode. No actually, rewatch the whole series. Properly :)

#avatar the last airbender #atla #katara #aang #toph beifong #zuko #kataang #katara i'm so sorry #you deserve better #mischaracterization #she's a CHILD #a child with a trauma

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skelytoon · 28 days

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IM SO SICK OF PEOPLE MISCHARACTERIZING JOHNNY😭 HES A FULLY INDEPENDENT PERSON THAT HAD TO LEARN TO FEND FOR HIMSELF DUE TO NEGLECTFUL PARENTS. HE KILLED SOMEONE TO PROTECT PONYBOY AND HIMSELF!! HES NOT SENSITIVE, HES JUST AFRAIF OF GETTING HURT LIKE SO MANG ITHER TIMES BEFORE. HES JUMPY AS A SURVIVAL INSTINCT‼️‼️ IT GETS ME SO MAD😭😭

thank u for coming to my ted talk 🗣️🔥

@inyourclosetrn

#the outsiders #johnny cade #ponyboy curtis #canon vs fanon #fanon #canon #mischaracterization

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hainethehero · 2 months

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So I made the mistake of stumbling onto the NOT STEVE ROGERS FRIENDLY tag today and..

You have to be a special type of delusional to be this obsessed with a character you don't like!??

Over 2k fics have the tag and are almost entirely Tony Stark-centered fics. I'm assuming these are the "fans" who totally buy into the MCU canon and don't know any other Captain America lore outside of what Feige and Whedon have done. Or, they're the "fans" who refuse to understand the politics behind Steve's character and how he was inherently undermined throughout the entire ten years of the MCU by the directors and writers for most of the films.

Because the arguments in most of these fics for being "not Steve rogers friendly" are really surface level shit like:

1) "Steve refused to sign the Accords and broke up the Avengers" (he was right & he didn't break them up, an overemotional Tony did when he refused to listen to Bucky's side of the story).

2) Steve fought Tony and almost killed him (yeah, like Tony didn't blast Bucky's arm off and shoot his repulsor rays directly at Steve).

3)Steve is homophobic (y'all are just making up reasons to hate this man atp)

4)Steve is racist (Steve hated racists & you'd know that if you read the comics, or you guys are just that deluded that you're making Steve racist & trying to project it as canon and therefore a "reasonable" explanation as to why you hate him)

5)Blaming Steve for Rhodey's accident (WHICH WAS TEAM TONY'S FAULT!)

6)YALL, THEY MADE STEVE THE BAD GUY IN A BROCK RUMLOW/BUCKY FIC! I stg I cannot make this shit up💀 Steve's bad for wanting Bucky to be Bucky again, but somehow Brock's the good guy for wanting Bucky to be the Soldier...

Steve left Bucky for Peggy (we'll get to this soon)

There's a hundred more irrational reasons for the Steve Rogers hate, but let me get to the WORST part.

THERE ARE BUCKY STANS WHO ARE ANTI-STEVE ROGERS.

And I'm sorry, no. I don't accept that you love Bucky Barnes but hate the one person he loves the most in the world.

They argued in a couple fics that "Bucky also went rogue after Siberia but he didn't want to associate with Steve, Nat & the rest of the team- WHO HELPED RESCUE BUCKY & EVENTUALLY EXONERATE HIM- but rather, he went off on his own & eventually Tony finds him, they hash it out and become friends to lovers."

Helppp???? Wdym Bucky isn't gonna stick with the one man he's been keeping diaries about to try and get back his memories? But he'll go to the one guy that re-traumatized him by blowing out his arm again?

Not only that, but Bucky absolutely hates Steve in some of these fics and the reason will be, "he left Bucky to go back to Peggy." Like, you cannot be a serious fan if you're still going with the Endgame canon. For a majority of us, we recognize Endgame as being nothing but terrible writing and mischaracterizations. Why are yall not analyzing and interpreting media critically? The MCU has never been on Steve's side and have always diminished his character in an attempt to make Tony the ultimate hero of the OG 6. Don't yall know the discourse? It's embarrassing atp.

And this is my stance on the entire thing: there's nothing wrong with writing fics about characters you don't necessarily like or aren't interested in. It's OKAY if you don't like Steve Rogers- but you've gotta be rational about him, instead of hateful. Most, if not all of these "anti-steve" fics are written in bad faith. Bad understanding of the character and pure, shameless mischaracterizations which just makes these types of fics fickle and weak- hilarious to read though cos that Brock one had me deadddd😭💀.

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chuuya-fan-page · 7 months

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rare chuuya fan page rant post

I am genuinely upset with how this fandom views Chuuya. It's probably since he is one of my favorites, but can we stop viewing him as solely the brawns of skk?

He. is. a. mafia. executive.

He is both strong and smart, there is no way he could even be a leader of the sheep at 15 years old as well if he was not smart. And there is no way that he would become a mafia executive if he was not smart either, that position requires both smarts and strength.

He is not a brute that only knows how to solve things with violence like the fandom believes he is. He's just been conditioned by living on the slums/streets since he was 7-8 years old that every day was a fight. He is a fighter. Through and through, he fights tooth and nail to survive. Even so, he can solve things through other means than violence.

He is incredibly intelligent. He can do physics in his head; it is said that he is capable of deceiving people but prefers not to. Not only that he is incredibly unpredictable! Not to mention, he is the only person to predict Dazai's motives. It's even shown early on in 15 when they first meet, after the sheep are doing their own thing, he says "what are you planning" to dazai. Why does no one talk about this? Also, it's literally said by Lippman that he would be a good actor, shows how he is capable of deceiving!

Ahem, back to what I was saying, time and time again Chuuya has surprised the people (the fuckin king of assassins and the demon fuckin prodigy) around him and even a whole ass robot (Adam)!

It's even said that he managed the jewel trade in stormbringer, taking after Dazai! No fuckin dumb 16-year-old would be put in charge of that. It even further proves the point that skk are through and through equals/rivals! No normal 16-year-old would be entrusted to something that was once overseen by somebody who would be known as the infamous demon prodigy in the mafia in the future! Not to mention, he literally figured out the case in 15 ln SHORTLY after Dazai was interrogating Rimbaud, from intuition alone as well! Also, Dazai didn't even get involved with a lot of events in stormbringer, Chuuya dealt with a lot of it on his own!

Then there's the fact that Dazai did not suspect Chuuya was arahabaki. *grabs you by your shoulder and shakes you* he. did. not. know.

That is so incredibly important! I really feel like bones really downplays how truly shocked Dazai was in the adaption of 15. Heck, even Rimbaud was shocked!

It's just fuckin annoying to see the fandom shocked by the fact that Chuuya managed to fool Fyodor. He was absolutely capable of that! It just shows in itself how people view Chuuya.

Overall, Chuuya is a very smart, capable, strong, and complex character. People really underestimate him and their reaction to him fooling Fyodor in the new episode shows it.

-A

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aetsiv · 6 days

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every time i see someone mischaracterize matthias as a dumb, blonde, malewife with no personality except being nina's (dead) boyfriend i want to fistfight god and cause the mass extinction of humanity

#because like did we read the same books?#yeah matthias is a great boyfriend and sort of malewife-y #thats not the only part of his character!#like he isnt just some random character who only exists to make nina seem like a girlboss #he has so much character potential and development #just because leigh bardugo didnt make him have some big personality and act all main character-y #doesnt mean he's flat and boring and 2 dimensional #honestly leigh sort of wronged him by not giving her more relationships and development with other characters #and not giving him more development in genera #but from what she did give him #hes great #i get so sick of mischaracterization and lack of media literacy #six of crows #soc #six of crows fandom #matthias helvar #crooked kingdom #nina zenik #helnik #sort of #not sure if the nina tag and helnik tag really apply #but like the relationship and nina are both mentioned so i added it to be safe #mischaracterization #media literacy #or lack thereof

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cat-downthestreet · 3 months

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hey, listen! this is a rant post about neurodivergent characters in Genshin and my frustration with the fandom's reading comprehension skills. if you're in a bad place or just don't like angry rants, please don't force yourself and go read something else instead. <3

Okay, so, I watched this video recently, and let's just say, I have some thoughts.

https://youtu.be/tYK3297p4rk?si=eMaf8NF57HFlUhfd

This isn't just a Xiao problem- the entire fandom is terrible at characterization. The example that makes me the most angry is the mischaracterization of neurodivergent characters.

Take Alhaitham for example. He's often seen as rude and narcissistic by the fandom- which is especially apparent in Haikaveh content, where people portray him as straight up abusive.

You wanna know why this makes me so mad? The supposedly narcissistic and rude traits Alhaitham has are actually just exaggerated symptoms of autism.

Like, come ON, people. Don't skip dialogue. Better yet, go read through his story quest again. He straight up tells someone who sees him as narcissistic that he doesn't see others as less than himself. Also, his voicelines basically confirm this- he's extremely socially inept and he doesn't care. He has difficulty showing emotions as readily as his peers- that doesn't mean he doesn't have them, just that he expresses them differently. He comes across as rude because he doesn't get that people don't like to hear what they're doing wrong, and he probably doesn't care because that's not his problem. If people don't like how blunt he is, that's their problem. At least, that's how I think he views the world.

And like, there are SO many hints that he's autistic. He wears sound-blocking earpieces, for crying out loud. Hell, the ENTIRE REASON why he helped out during the Archon quest was because he didn't want his life to change too much. Preferring routine is an autistic trait.

And the worst part is, when I talk about this outside of neurodivergent groups, people tell me I'm wrong and that he couldn't be autistic DESPITE THOSE PEOPLE NOT BEING AUTISTIC THEMSELVES.

And I'm not saying that every autistic person relates to Alhaitham, but I certainly do. And I'm actually quite friendly because I'm anxious about being rejected. Alhaitham isn't, and I'm so jealous of him for that. He's living his best life.

Finally, back to the Haikaveh thing... Alhaitham isn't abusive. He doesn't say horrible things to Kaveh, and the one example of him doing that I could find, he immediately backtracked and subtly tried to make Kaveh feel better. Hell, Alhaitham doesn't even actually care about making sure Kaveh pays rent. He says it as a joke, but because he's autistic and his tone of voice doesn't give that away as well, he's portrayed as abusive and misunderstood as narcissistic. Y'all just don't like neurodivergent people and it shows.

Yes, neurodivergent includes Xiao. PTSD is often viewed as a form of neurodivergency, and there are many MANY characters in Genshin that have PTSD or some other form of neurodivergence. Yet people refuse to see them as such and mischaracterize them as "edgy," "narcissistic," "unapproachable," "weird," and the like. Yet none of these characters are any of those things.

You wanna know the true narcissists? The true edgelords? The actually rude people? Might I direct your attention to Scaramouche, Childe, and Dottore, whom everyone makes out to be as misunderstood pathetic little meow meows that need love.

Reminder that only two of those three are actually redeemable, and one is STILL an edgelord who is more rude than Alhaitham could ever be, while the other is a certified insane person with a weird set of morals.

(Side note: I love Scaramouche and Childe as characters. I'm just tired of people acting like they aren't worse than the autistic characters. Scaramouche is extremely rude, but he's trying to be better as Wanderer thanks to Nahida's help. He has severe PTSD, and Childe does, too. But both of them are actually messed up and have done horrible things, yet people portray them as better and more in need of love than the characters with unlikable (read: neurodivergent) traits.)

Don't even get me started on how people portray Kokomi, Sucrose, Fischl, Diluc, Zhongli, Cyno, Furina, Neuvillette, and Albedo. Especially that last one- I WILL get mad if one more person tries to tell me he's just emotionless and rude.

Also, if anyone is wondering where I've seen people misunderstanding these characters, it's mostly on Hoyolab site discussions. There's one too many posts talking about how "rude" and "annoying" these characters are.

With Alhaitham especially, I see many people writing him as abusive in Haikaveh content. I see people arguing about the ship being toxic because Alhaitham is "abusive," "unfeeling," and "cruel." Even people who like the ship portray him as such. And I've seen too many people comparing him to Dr. Ratio, who is literally just a narcissist who views others as beneath him. Don't get me wrong, I understand the comparison. It's just... very obvious that people skipped dialogue during Genshin's Archon and story quests.

And it's frustrating because I've been misunderstood in the exact same way. I've been called "rude," "annoying," and "unfeeling" in the past and it's screwed me up. Seeing people do the same thing to a character I so deeply relate to makes me lose confidence in both myself and people around me.

If that's how you view a fictional character with autistic traits, how do you treat real people with the same traits?

Thanks for reading this far. My previous post seemed to get a lot of attention, so I felt more confident about posting my full perspective on this subject. Can any of you think of other characters that have been constantly misunderstood in the fandom? I'd love to hear about it.

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rainbowmothed · 1 month

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i said what i said

#hazbin hotel #vivziepop #hellaverse #hazbin #vaggie #hazbin vaggie #vaggie hazbin hotel #vaggie hazbin #mischaracterization #her mischaracterization drives me actually insane #leave my girl alone

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gothamnighthawk · 3 months

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Personally I don’t really care for the characterization of Jason that has him behaving as a borderline alcoholic. This man spent the first 12-13 years of his life having the shit beat out of him (and his mom) by his alcoholic father. He wouldn’t touch a bottle of alcohol with a 10ft pole (out of fear of becoming like his dad). And while I’m at it, he would probably be super wary of taking prescription medication (because of his mom).

#jason todd #willis todd #adult children of alcoholics #jason todd angst #mischaracterization #jason todd headcanon #jason todd hc

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damnfandomproblems · 8 months

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Fandom Problem #4255:

A male character being praised by fandom for being "unashamed to be feminine"....even though, he never really actually is feminine? He's just...uh, nice?

I thought "popular mean girl" was a common enough trope for people to understand that "feminine" isn't a synonym for "friendly", likewise it should be understood that "masculinity" doesn't just mean being an asshole.

#ask box submission #fandom problem 4255 #mischaracterization

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sumaykaworld · 2 months

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Me reading everymanhybrid head canons suddenly Evan is autistic and Jeff has ADHD .

WHEN???

#evan emh #habit emh #Jeff emh #jeff koval #Evan myers #Evan Jennings #emh #Everyman hybrid #everymanhybrid #jeff everymanhybrid #Evan everymanhybrid #FANON #canon #headcanons #mischaracterization #adhd #autistic

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maybe-in-another-universe · 26 days

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i keep seeing people say “the titans tower incident was too out of character for jason! i just can’t consider it cannon!”

imo, it makes sense. yes, it is out of character. that is the whole point. jason isn’t fully himself, he’s fighting both pit madness and the manipulation that comes with talia al ghul. It is out of character because jason himself is out of character. he’s not the kid that died in that warehouse anymore and he’s not the man that heals (as healed as one can get in the dcu) down the line yet.

#jason todd #red hood #the titans tower incident #dc batman #tim drake #dc robin #red robin #batman and robin #lazarus pit #talia al ghul #mischaracterization #purposeful mischaracterization

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homuradefender · 1 month

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Over sexualized art of Arlecchino makes me so mad. No, she's not your 'waifu' or whatever people say. She is a strong woman, a high ranking Fatui harbinger, who we don't know much about, she killed a man who tried to groom Lynette. She is more then just for the male gaze, stop playing her down to something that she's not. The children of the House of Hearth quite literally call her father and she could probably easily slice up someone with her nails.

#genshin impact #arlechinno genshin #stop mischaractering #mischaracterization #genshin impact fatui #the knave #genshin #arlecchino #genshin arlecchino #bad fandom #beats the creeps

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supermxnthathoe · 4 months

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Was Batman Urban Legends the best characterization of Jason Todd as Robin? No. Absolutely not.

But was he drawn so adorably that I didn't even mind? Absolutely.

PLS HE'S AN ANGRY LITTLE GUY (yh they played into that idea, how original of them)

THROWING HIS LITTLE ARMS UP

LET IT BE KNOWN, HE WANTS TO BE CALLED BAT-BOY.

(it's very cute. The storyline, however, left much to be desired. When will we stop using complex characters with good backstories as plot fodder for Batman? When will we stop mischaracterizing them so terribly because it suits the storyline for a singular comic? Give me answers DC. Until then tho- MORE CUTIE JASON)

#dc comics #jason todd #batfam #batman #red hood #batman urban legends #mischaracterization #do better dc #im begging

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snowswan-royalehigh · 4 months

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My personal thoughts on Remarried Empress

Hi there! I'm not going into an too much of an in-depth analysis, so please take my words with a grain of salt. I'm going to focus on Rashta's past.

Rashta is a very well written character, she's shown to be naive and innocent, with underlying layers of cruelty and a character development towards greed which is wonderfully executed. However, the fandom refuses to allow her to have nuance to her character.

When the webtoon and novel start off, we already know Rashta is somewhat portrayed as a villainess, and during my first readthrough, I also wanted to sucker punch her in the face. (I would be publicly executed by Sovieshit) But when I reread I realized how much nuance I missed, and some nuance the fandom ignores entirely.

We start off knowing Rashta is a runaway slave. Which already starts us off on a generally sympathetic note, because we can tell she's had some form of a bad life prior to becoming Sovieshit's concubine. We know she has an annoying habit of speaking in third person, she's a crybaby, she's incredibly controlled by her emotions, she lacks critical thinking skills, and she doesn't even know how to read or write.

Rashta is incredibly easily manipulated, she shows that with her interactions with Sovieshit and especially Duke Ergi. Duke Ergi influences almost all of Rashta's moves, such as the Christmas tree wedding dress, which was a huge embarrassment. In defense of Rashta's lack of knowledge, she was a slave. How was she supposed to know about how these things, when she had spent her life, being forced to clean, with no hope of escaping. She hadn't even done anything to become a slave in the first place, she was made one so her father wouldn't have to pay for his crime. She was uneducated as can be. Reading and writing at that time was only for the highborn.

Rashta is confirmed to have had a lot of love for the idea of her children, and she carried that baby to full term. Imagine how mortifying it was when Lotteshu showed her that corpse. (How the hell did he even get his hands on the corpse. We should be focusing on that a lot more) So could we really blame her for running away, Alan abandoned her as well, and Lebetti always treated her like trash.

Rashta undergoes a corruption arc because of the people around her. Navier remarks in her head that Rashta has no one good around her to inform her, in the webtoon.

Now, imagine this situation from the point of view of Rashta. You just saw your supposed dead child with an obvious great amount of trauma via your whole childhood, and now, the emperor, an incredibly powerful man, has proposed to become your lover. He's going to give you protection, and most likely save you from your horrible life. Everyone forgets the power dynamic of these two. Rashta is the lowest in society while Sovieshit is the highest. What terrible consequences would Sovieshit's pretty ass conjure from rejection? Even the webtoon remarks that it's like a fairy tale.

Navier and the rest of the nobles are her enemies, because of how she was raised. She actually started off the webtoon looking up to Navier, and seeing Navier as someone she could basically worship, and believed that Navier would act as a motherly figure although she was greeted with Navier's justifiable pettiness although Rashta didn't know what she was doing wrong.

If Rashta was the protagonist everyone would be gushing about her, because she is manipulative, but so is Navier. The people around Rashta fail her, when she could've been so much more, and she has so much underutilized potential. Rashta would've been incredibly hyped up for kicking Navier out, and Navier would be seen as cold hearted and self centered.

TL;DR, Rashta is still an antagonist, but she is not a straight up villain. She's complex, and she's more human than any other antagonist. She's only hated on for being the 'other woman' and the fandom acts like she seduced Sovieshit for the funsies.

(Fuck Sovieshit, all my homies hate him!!!))

#the remarried empress #Rashta #Sovieshitslander #Characternuance #Nuance #mischaracterization #character arcs #sovieshu #Sovieshu slander

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shin-tsukimi-enjoyer · 10 months

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YTTD fandom with Shin Tsukimi

Y’all either say his core personality trait is lying, that he is an irredeemable bad person, or that he is this soft ‘uwu’ boy that stutters cutely when he talks. There is no in between.

#your turn to die #yttd #shin tsukimi #yttd shin #yttdposting #yttd analysis #mischaracterization #shin yttd #yttd headcanons

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