This is probably because I grew up watching 24/7 animal planet, but what finally made the allo/aplatonic thing click for me were the nature's of big cats.

Lions are powerful, regal creatures who are uniquely adapted to pack life. They need these connections to live a healthy life; A lonely lion is a miserable creature indeed.

Jaguars are solitary, beautiful creatures who live happily solitary. They prowl their lush world with self-sufficient majesty. A jaguar is not lonely without a pack. In fact, forcing jaguars to share space with others they do not enjoy is just as damaging as forcing a lion to live alone.

A lion may choose to head out on it's own for the most part, but in the end must return to the pack to thrive. A jaguar can choose to trust and enjoy the company of others, but they never feel the need to form a pack.

Is a jaguar selfish for this? A psychopath, a narcissist or any other such horrid assumptions? Is it a less moral creature than a lion, who seeks others like it to thrive?

Is a lion pathetic, or needy, or selfish for wanting community? For requiring contact with others like they require water? For their inherent need to string complicated webs of relationships that may seem silly or dramatic to others?

Of course not. These are ridiculous questions to even ask.

They are simply lions and jaguars.

In fact, is a jaguar that chooses to spend time with you not as magical as a lion's love? For a creature that needs no bond to thrive to still enjoy your presence enough to share it a time? Is a lion who can prowl the night alone not impressive in its strength and resilience? Is it not awe-inspiring in its ability to conquer a life it was never wired for and reign still?

Are they not both beautiful and awe-inspiring in their own ways, without being wrong?

Alloplatonics. Aplatonics. Are we not both special and beautiful in both our bonds and self-confident happiness equal, in each our ways? Is there not unique beauty in lifelong bonded packs and magical encounters that need no perpetuity to carry life forward?

Are we not but lions and jaguars? Neither wrong, neither selfish, but just different and beautiful creatures in each our ways?

That's how I've come to see it, anyway.

i’ve realized recently that platonic attraction is just the same as romantic attraction. i always kinda knew this but it’s really clicked now. you can be aplatonic and alloplatonic, grayplatonic, demiplatonic, platonicflux, desinoplatonic. hell, you can have platonic preferences and only be platonically attracted to certain genders. and how you experience platonic attraction could be vastly stronger or weaker than how someone else does (which isn’t a bad thing ofc). us as humans are only just starting to come around to the fact that romantic attraction varies so much from person to person, and we’ve barely touched the surface of how it’s the same for platonic attraction

Friending and Nonfriending Platonic flags

In order, the first row is Friending Aplatonic, Friending Aplatonic ( alternate flag ), and Friending Alloplatonic / Allopl / Alloplatonic spectrum / Alloplspec ( inclusive of Orchid-specs who wish to be included. )

The second row, in order, is Nonfriending Aplatonic, Nonfriending Aplatonic ( alternate flag ), and Nonfriending Alloplatonic / Allopl / Alloplatonic spectrum / Alloplspec ( inclusive of Orchid-specs who wish to be included. )

Made by combining these Friending and Nonfriending flags by @revenant-coining with these Aplatonic flags, and this Alloplatonic / Allopl / Alloplatonic spectrum / Alloplspec flag by @ryanyflags!

Requested by anon but free for everyone to use anywhere! I'm open to making more of these with more specific flags under each umbrella but these are general and intentionally broad / inclusive.

Taglist - @revenant-coining, @radiomogai

something i've found helpful as an alloplatonic aroace-spec person when trying to understand allos (my best friend is alloallo) is that every time an alloromantic/allosexual says something that feels exaggerated or weird to me I just . swap the terms out for the type of attraction I do feel (in my case, platonic).

like, for example: my bestie spends hours on a dating app and talks about feeling like she's suffocating and how much she's looking forward to having a romantic partner. i fundamentally don't understand this, so a part of me goes "wait, can that even be healthy?"

so then i swap it out. if i had no friends at all, would i spend hours on a social app feeling like i'm suffocating and search desperately for platonic connections, and yearn for the day i just... have long term friends that i can hang out with? ...like, my reception to that idea is much more "of course" and "i can't imagine being healthy otherwise because i, personally, deeply need friends"

so.... the only rational conclusion is that alloromanticism/allosexuality really does feel that way. being allo isn't just about attraction, it kind of... creates extra needs. things that you really do genuinely feel incomplete without. and this is interesting because i used to look down on alloromantic and allosexual people, thinking it sounded like an unhealthy "dependence" (admittedly in no small part due to the promotion of codependent relationship styles in amatonormativity). but no, uh... turns out some people are just built that way.

it also explains orchidromantic and orchidsexual and their connection to the aspec communities I think. people who experience attraction but are still missing that "need" part of alloromanticism or allosexuality tend to still not fit in. they're still "missing" a key component of being allo. because as an alloplatonic person i feel that i can now assert that allo people really do mean it when they say they're suffocating and uncomfortable when they don't have any relationships of that type. (which to be clear isn't about being rejected from specific relationships, though that hurts too, it's more about not having any outlets at all?)

idk where i was going with this. just thinking about it i think

I got the idea from some of the reblogs from my previous aplatonic dedicated post.

Like as I mentioned several times on this blog, alloplatonics obsess over friendships & think everyone has the same experience.

Like as if everyone had a specific friend they just like the most out of the other friends & who would pick them over anyone else.

Like man idk where you got that,but I recommend you to open your eyes or stopped smoking something since this is the most delusional shit I've seen.

Not everyone is the fucking same!! Like if you spread nonsense how every single person is different but think that everyone acts the same or has the same opinions as you, then you're pretty hypocritical.

alloalterous / alloalt / alloalterous spectrum / alloaltspec alloplatonic / allopl / alloplatonic spectrum / alloplspec allosensual / allosen / allosensual spectrum / allosenspec alloaesthetic / alloaes / alloaesthetic spectrum / alloaespec alloqueerplatonic / alloqp / alloqueerplatonic spectrum / alloqpspec allotertiary / alloter / allotertiary spectrum / alloterspec

(I also came up with alloplat/alloplatspec as a way of shortening alloplatonic/spectrum. And if anyone has any ideas for the names, feel free to add on, I'm not very good with naming terms.)

Allo- flags :D !

Since I made allophysical and alloemotional flags, I thought I should make allo- flags for other attractions too.

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Flag colors:

✦ The first 3 stripes, white, grey, and black, are based off of @isobug's alloromantic flag. They have the same stripe/color meanings. In addition I also think they're a good way to represent allo- in general. ✦ The other colors are for the respective attractions, and are based off the colors already associated with them. Blue for alterous, Yellow for platonic, Orange for sensual, Pink for aesthetic, Pink+yellow for queerplatonic, And light blue, yellow, orange, and magenta/pink for tertiary.

(Orchid-specs who wish to be included in these flags/labels are included as well.)

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In general allo is just assumed to be allosexual or alloromantic, like in the cases of alloaro and alloace, but I think other attractions should get the same recognition too. If someone can be mixed allo- and a- for romantic and sexual attraction, surely there can be people who are mixed for tertiary attractions (in addition to romantic and sexual) too. (Of course someone doesn't have to be a-spec to use these allo- flags.) I think it would be helpful for these flags to exist, so here they are.

@reblogforsamplesize could you do the thing you do (also anyone else who wants to pls reblog)

edit: it is done! @platonic-culture-is now exists!

Hello Everyone! Today is the first establishment for Aplatonic Day Of Visibility! On this day we support those who identify on the Aplatonic Spectrum by giving them support and recognition!

If you are Aplatonic, feel free to reblog this post with yourself or something you enjoy with your Aplspec Pride Flag!! Alternatively you can also use the hashtag, #AplatonicDayOfVisiblity!

I also ecourage all Alloplatonics to reblog anything related to this amazing day!

Platonic Orientation

I need to step back and restart. Evaluate how I feel from a different perspective or from a blank slate. I need to be removed from what I WANT and focus on what I AM.

This is as if labels weren't a thing:

I have never once in my life wanted a friend. But the only reason I had friends was because my mom and grandma forced me to spend time with people. I had friends as a kid; I just didn't put that much effort into maintaining the relationship, the only time I did was if there was another form of attraction there, like if I felt romantic things for them, I would become friends with them to see what they acted like to determine if the attraction would grow or disappear completely. If we just stopped talking one day or had a falling out, I wouldn't care, and I would move on with my life. I like talking to people, but I have a short social battery (I get physically and socially exhausted from being around people for too long; not talking to them, just being around them can make me tired), so if I don't know a person beat for beat, then I lose interest in them, and my social battery drains pretty fast. Nowadays, I hate people; I want nothing to do with them. Yeah, having online friends to talk to would be okay for me, but again, if we just stopped talking one day or had a falling out, I wouldn't care, and I would move on with my life without a care in the world. Even hanging out with someone close, like my cousin, makes me feel this way. We've known each other our whole lives, but she's just my cousin, you know? Yeah, we hang out sometimes and talk for hours on end, but she's not my best friend by any means. I only care for her in a family sense. Sometimes I have the super strong desire to be friends with someone, but that only lasts a few minutes up to a few hours at most before going back to 0% platonic desire. When I did make friends with other people, they were mainly girls. I don't know if this was the stupid CisHet agenda or what, that girls can only be friends with girls and vice versa, and if a boy and girl were friends, they were obviously dating, like, let the fucking child be friends with whoever they want. I have had several of my guy friends leave me because everyone thought we were dating, and they got sick and tired of the teasing. But as I got older, I started to be friends with mainly boys and only a few girls, the complete opposite of when I was a child.

What does this describe?

Me: I'm non partnering. Agamous. Single pringle life for good. Nope, no partnerships here. It's just me, myself, and I, baby!

Queerplatonic Relationship: *exists*

Me: Oh. Uh..

Wavership: *exists*

Me: Ngnnggh..!

Appromour: *exists*

Me: HGGHGH.

Delamour: *exists*

Me: HRGHHHRHG.

Soft Romo: *exists*

Me: SHIT. I GUESS IT SOUNDS NICE.

Alloplatoniromantic!!

Alloplatoniromantic is a term for those who regularly experience romantic and platonic attraction. It's essentially a combination term of alloromantic and alloplatonic. One may or may not desire a qpr and/or a romantic relationship, but they do feel romantic and platonic attraction.

Made this for a friend bc grey couldn't find anything about being allo platonically and romantically :3

aplatonic people describing their experiences on here (both on this blog and individual posts on their own blogs) have really really helped me with regards to my own questioning. so first of all, a huge thank you to any apl people reading this!!

see the thing is. i am extremely alloplatonic. and i literally never knew! i just thought this was "normal" or "something everyone experiences"! and hearing how some people don't experience this huge attraction that's like one of the biggest parts of my life... like wow. i mean not only am i obviously way more capable of actually being an ally to apl people now that I know they even exist but i feel like i am really actually finally able to understand alloromanticism and allosexuality by extension.

.....and for a long time I thought I was alloromantic, but with this in mind, I think I'm probably both aro-spec and ace-spec. see i know i experience romantic....something. but realizing that I'm alloplatonic has made me realize that i only feel about half of how i would picture a complete alloromantic attraction. it's like my feelings just kind of get stuck, and i feel no real "pull" or feeling of "attraction", just the initial emotional reaction. I don't know what to even call that, so I mostly just use arospec for now— it feels less like a "gray" attraction and more like just. an attraction fragment. a solid half of a full attraction. incomplete. but i think it's enough for me to just know I'm on the spectrum.

i got a bit sidetracked, but basically-- thank you to anyone making posts about your experiences. it means a lot, it helped me a lot personally, and not only that, but now i know to not just assume everyone is alloplatonic (yikes, low bar, but still). now i know that if i'm looking to make friends, i need to be aware that not everyone might be comfortable with platonic pursuit, so now i ask actively if people are interested in making friends or starting a friendship before i start thinking of them as a potential friend. obviously it's not perfect but I think that putting in that effort and awareness matters. and it's only possible because some people put in that work to explain their experiences and spread awareness. so.... i dunno. just wanted to say thank you, and that it really makes a difference.

So, I didn't see anyone make a term for my experience with something, so I made it myself!

Anterospectrum (Anterospec / Antspec)

It’s name derives from the greek god of all types of Requited love (not just romantic), Anteros, child of Aphrodite. The butterfly on the flag is a reference to Anteros' wings.

“An Identity for an atypical sense of love, often characterized by it’s inability to distinguish types of love from each other, much like platoniromantic. Unlike platoniromantic, it's a spectrum! It can include anyone on the aplatonic-spectrum and anyone on the aromantic-spectrum. for some, it may be a fluxuating definition / viewpoint of love in general, it may be a fluid identity, or may be a fluid feeling about other people."

TL;DR: Platoniromantic mixed with a bit of aflux, except the "flux" part changes depending on the person.

and, just to be clear: this identity has no relation to sexuality!

Darker & lower saturation version, just incase the normal flag hurts anyone's eyes <:)

Heart version! very nice I like it :]

Version with a triangle! why? why not!

poly version because :DDDDDDD

the colors and their meanings!

To all those Allos (sexual,romantic, platonic) out there you not getting a crush, a squish or whatever shouldn’t stop if you want to have sex, date or befriend someone.

And to all those As (sexual, romantic, platonic) out there you not wanting a relationship whatever nature it is is perfectly fine.

This is your life, you do what you want.

Edit : this wouldn’t be complete without a gender identity statement, to all those allogender, cisgender, transgender and agender, whatever gender identity you have is fine. Because I agree with the fact that gender identity shouldn’t be such an important part of your identity though I’m not cassgender (though it’s fine if you think it’s an important part of your identity or not, regardless, you can’t change how you feel about it), shout-out to all those cassgender and non-cassgender, what you think about yourself is fine.

Plato-repulsed allopl culture is hating friendship but still wanting to be friends with particular people

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Cuteplatonic & Demicuteplatonic

Cuteplatonic

is a label for those who feel cute attraction just when they make friends, or when the individual start to being friend with someone.

This flag is a mix of a cute attraction flag and alloplatonic flag

Demicuteplatonic

This is the alternative flag, those who identify themselves can be considered In the DEMI spectrum because they only get cute attraction when they make friends.

Attention, this isn't the demiqueerplatonic flag don't use it as such.

see the alloplatonic flag here https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Alloplatonic

see what's the cute attraction here https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Cute_Attraction