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rancid-men-stimboards · 17 days

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A stimboard

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aspec-is-amazing · 27 days

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made a meme for all yall nonfriending folks, eat up

#aplatonic #apl #nonfriending #plato repulsed #apothiplatonic

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aplatonically-done · 2 months

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i wont lie to ya, i think we're goin' too hard on the aros.

i am a culprit of this, don't get me wrong. i understand the rationale behind it. aplatonicism is heavily related and in proximity to aromanticism (and other aspec communities). it also is a great example of a culture who (most often) puts friendship above any other sort of relationship; one, too, that advocates for the normalization of friendship being an important part of anyone's life--regardless of whether they're in a romantic relationship or not.

i've noticed that we, as aplatonics, are pushing for the normalization of platonicism and friendship as optional. that, as well as pointing out how prevalent it is in our societies, sometimes causing stress or harm to an individual's wellbeing with us wanting to challenge how much it is brought upon people.

and i think we're toxic with how we approach the aromantic's ideas. we see them as doing bad unto us. i think it's because they're so concentrated and readily available, easy to point out as something aplatonics might be against or averse to.

aromantics are not our enemies. they are not trying to go against us. they are not trying to stamp us out.

they are just trying to exist in a world where romantic desire and relationships are the end-all be-all of *life*. an example: if you aren't married by the time your deathbed arrives, you're seen as pitiful, unfulfilled, wasted, among other things.

they're trying to find a place where they can explore their aromanticism and relationships and their feelings regarding that. for many, that's going to involve reevaluating how they were taught to think about friendship: as second to having a partner. that's not something we should take away from or denounce, for we are doing the same.

aplatonics are trying to find a place where we can explore our aplatonicism and relationships and our feelings regarding that. for many, that's going to involve reevaluating how we were taught to think about friendship: as something everyone wants, does have, and should have.

i think we should work to understand their ideas, how aromanticism and it's culture work within someone and their life, and how we can accept their viewpoints without tearing them down just because it doesn't explicitly disclaim that they're alloplatonic and aren't against aplatonicism.

our ideas play together. both romanticism and platonicism are major heads within the social world, both having their strangleholds over the population.

please keep this in mind going forward. be nuanced when talking about the aromantic's ideas. be nuanced when talking about the aplatonic's ideas. understand how we are both communities of which highlight the domination of the two forces and use that to your advantage.

TL;DR (Please still read though!)--------------------------------------

aros point out how romanticism works against us

apls point out how platonicism works against us

these ideas are both valid, and work together

apls rag on aros too much just because they're easy to point to as a perpetuation of platonormativity

aros's "platonormativity" is most often just a deconstruction of how they've been taught to see relationship, them getting more in tune with how they wanna do their shit (just like we are)

don't denounce aro ideas and lives on the basis of it not being congruent with your own ideals and how you may think it goes against apl ideas

critically assess aro ideas with an understanding that it might not be for you and you're allowed to interpret the work as you wish, perhaps even trying to understand it from your own apl perspective

Thanks for reading! Feel free to add you own ideas for or against any/all of my points; I feel this is important to how we go forth as a communities.

I come at this from the perspective of a romance ambivalent aromantic and platonic repulsed aplatonic.

#aplatonic #aplspec #apothiplatonic #aspec #apl #aromantic #arospec #aro #aroace #platonormativity #amatonormativity

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chimeraas-archive · 2 months

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If you try to use ‘microlabels’ as a gotcha to try and justify the erasure of asexual and aromantic characters / representation, I’m just throwing you off the bridge at this point.

“But!1!1!1!! Aces can love and have sex! Aros can date!1!1!” Shut up. Not everything is about YOU.

Repulsed aromantics and asexuals deserve some real respect after all of this. Repulsed aplatonics as well. Don’t you dare try to get away with the erasure of these identities under the guise of it being a ‘spectrum’ (which you just so happen to know NOTHING about, and are only using as a scapegoat for your poorly disguised aphobia)!

Stop using conversion therapy rhetoric by telling us that we ‘might meet the right person’! Stop getting pissy when you see somebody say they find sex, romance, or platonic affection gross or weird or strange. Fuck you. The asexual, aromantic, and aplatonic communities owe you NOTHING.

#asexual #aromantic #aroace #aplatonic #loveless aromantic #sex repulsed #apothisexual #apothiromantic #apothiplatonic #actually asexual

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significantouther · 7 months

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The lack of consent on friendships has always disturbed me.

Platonic/amical relationships are the only type of relationship that you can be entered into without even been asked.

Friendships "just happen". You aren't supposed to be asked or ask people to be your friend, that's a silly thing kids do because they don't understand. People can just call you their friend and you have to accept it.

And if you don't want to reciprocate the title you were given without even been asked, if you don't want to enter that relationship with that person, YOU are the bad person; because we aren't supposed to reject friendships.

#Friendship averse #Friendship repulsed #Nonfriending #Apothiplatonic #Orchidplatonic #Plato averse #Plato repulsed #Apothiamical #Orchidamical

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isobug · 23 days

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Some different Aplspec icons made with a Socially Selective dog patch by FurliciousArt on Etsy.

Self-indulgent and welcome to anyone who wants to use them! ( you can use them wherever, I’d appreciate credit but it’s not needed. )

The first row are these Aplatonic flags, the second row are these Greyplatonic / Greyaplatonic flags, and the last row is this Caedplatonic / Caedoplatonic flag and this Apothiplatonic flag.

#aplatonic #aplspec #greyplatonic #greyaplatonic #caedplatonic #caedoplatonic #apothiplatonic #apl #greyapl #caedapl #caedoapl #apothiapl #icons #pride icons #aspec #anattractional spectrum

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apothiplatonic · 1 year

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i've often tried to explain why i'm friend-repulsed – what is so uniquely distressing about friendship to me, compared to other interpersonal bonds – so here's one part of it.

friendships feel distinct from other types of relationships in that they usually start without any agreements, and can be entered into without even realizing. growing up, this was frightening to me; to hear a teacher declare we had to be friends with every student in the classroom, or to be called friends with someone i was just polite or kind to. when i did see models of “people asking if they can be your friend”, it was in children's books about how rejecting them makes you a bully. there was, and is, no escape. to suddenly hear that someone considered me a friend, and that i would be an evil oath-breaker if i left them or failed to be a “good friend” or sat there and did nothing at all, was bone-chilling. i made no oath!

i'm a scrupulous person, and i was even worse as a kid, so my society's friendship norms hurt me a lot. i didn't have any cultural example of how to say “no” to “do you want to be my friend?”, no script to turn down a kind and well-intentioned request for friendship, no means of egress that didn't make me a villain. i would regularly end up in – what seemed to me – servitude to some other child, not sure how i got there but unable to leave until they lost interest in me. i felt bent to the will of one person after the other, each one oblivious to how i felt their every friendly action as suffocating, consuming, as knives carving me into an empty statue who would do what they wanted. i was given no model for negotiating a friendship contract, but always reminded that there was a contract, one that i could not see or understand or alter.

...of course, there are always unspoken rules in social interaction, and culturally-approved coercion, and awful norms around consent. but there's something about how harmless friendship is seen as, and how socially discouraged it is to deny it, that hurt me a lot. i didn't have a drive towards friendships, so my friends were decided by whichever child was pushy and domineering enough, and i assumed that was just how things worked. i never even noticed when my friends actually treated me unfairly, because all of it hurt so much that i couldn't tell the difference. until i found the apl community, i couldn't find the language or ideas to even begin to think about it!

i think in most possible worlds, i would still be aplatonic. but it's this – my own experience of friendship as an inescapable torment, tearing chunks out of myself and offering them to whoever was strong enough, while the adults around me called me “such a good friend” – that made me friend-repulsed.

#aplatonic #aplspec #apothiplatonic #nonfriending #dissociation cw #disordered thinking cw #schizoid related but just as far as it overlaps with my aplatonicism #also this post shows some of the uncharitable skips in my brain from scratches on the disc #that illogical trauma reasoning #but i figured that's worth showing so people understand what friendship repulsion can feel like from the inside?#also if this seems familiar it's because i adapted it from something i said on discord months ago #i am the slowest blogger on tumblr #apothiposts

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shiutsu · 11 months

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I kept seeing aros in a subreddit complaining that romance gets bashed and they feel wrong for liking it.

But nobody ever said everything about the community's obsession with platonic attraction but if someone ever said it, I bet the post would get deleted within minutes since mfs can't handle that not everyone's alloplatonic and tries to normalize couple things that shouldnt get platonized at all.

#arospec #aromantic #aplatonic #aromantic representation #aromantic spectrum #loveless aro #aroace #aromantism #loveless aplatonic #aplatonic aroace #aplaroace #aplspec #aphobia #actually aromantic #aromantic community #platonic repulsed #platonic attraction #apothiplatonic

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entropy-sea-system · 6 months

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Nothing makes me feel more aplatonic than seeing other aros talk about how much they love friendship 💀

#aplatonic #apothiplatonic #friendship mention #aro #aromantic #arospec #aspec #nonfriending apl #apl #nonfriending #plato repulsed #nonfriending aplatonic #friendship repulsed

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outherlyomniaspec · 5 months

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There's these idea outside and within aro spaces that aro people have to be plato favourable or/and see their platonic attraction and relationship as the most important. Even when they take aplatonic people into account, it's always because "they can still have friends/be in platonic relationships"

But, that's not my case. I'm nonfriending and I don't desire qprs. I'm apothiplatonic and either apothiqueerplatonic, inactqueerplatonic/orchidplatonic or a mix of both (not sure if I'm aqpl or greyqpl ~ light-alloqpl. At the same time, I'm cupioromantic, cupioqueerromantic, and cupio any other type of relationship that resembles romantic ones.

I feel romantic and romo-adjacent relationships are more important to me than platonic and plato-adjacent ones; and coming from a plato-centric society that sees friendship as the most important kind of human connection, THAT is one of the queerest aspects of my identity.

To me, there's nothing revolutionary about centering friendships and pushing platonormativity because I've been surrounded by plato-centric, platonormative people and institutions since I was born.

Not only that, but as an ND person, "being friends" was a tool used by NTs to gaslight, ridicule and bully me. Seeing people in a space that should include me (because I AM AROMANTIC) put into a pedestal the kind of feeling and relationship that was/were used as a tool to harm me, makes me feel alienated from those spaces I should feel welcomed into.

Because no, I'll never feel friendships are better or even at the same level of romantic one. I'll never see friendships as healthier than romantic relationships; In fact, the lack of (concept of) consent regarding platonicity/friendships disturbs me. They aren't "less harmful than romance" to me, because no other type of bond, feeling and realtionship has harmed me/been used to cause me harm as much as friendship/platonicity.

#plato repulsed aplatonic #apothiplatonic #apothiqueerplatonic #romo aro #romance favourable aromantic #cupioromantic #friendship repulsed

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fuckyeahaplatonics · 4 months

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Aplatonic culture is feeling kind of smug about the fact that you won't face the struggles people have in friendships because you're nonfriending

#aplatonic #nonfriending apl #apl #aplspec #apothiplatonic #like youre sad abt your friends not spending time w you or the drama or abuse in your friend group?#well sucks to be you #I however will never have this happen to me again #I mean sure things could potentially go wrong in my polycule #but . at least its not friendship and at least there is actual consent and discussion of boundaries #unlike the ppl who half ass friendship like oh lol we talked for one day guess we are friends #aspec

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plato-repulsed-culture-is · 7 months

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Plato-repulsed culture is being unable to easily find media that doesn't repulse you because almost everything has friendship in it.

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aspec-is-amazing · 21 days

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apothiplatonics are fucking cool!!!! you get forgotten about/overlooked too much you deserve the best

#aplatonic #apothiplatonic #plato repulsed #aspec #apl #mod doxi

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aplatonically-done · 5 months

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my interest in romance is not a replacement for my disinterest in platonicism just as an allopl aro's interest in platonicism is not a replacement for their disinterest in romance. you dont need a replacement for whatever relationship type it is you dont care for.

#aplatonic #apothiplatonic #aplspec #aspec #romance favorable

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mlp-friendship-isnt-magic · 2 months

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[Image ID: A drawing of a lime green unicorn in the MLP style. He has short hair in purple, blue, and cream. His cutie mark is a green apple with a bite out of it. He has purple eyes and green hooves. In the top left corner is the words, “Pippin Apple, he/him”, and in the top right corner are the apothiplatonic and non-SAM apl flags. End ID.] This is the first of my aplspec MLP OCs based on symbols of the aplatonic community. This pony is Pippin Apple, a unicorn who is a distant relative of the Apple family. His pronouns are he/him. He is apothiplatonic and non-SAM apl (both flags from ryanyflags). His coat and mane are the aplatonic flag colors.

I might do a whole fanfic about him and the other MLP OCs I make, to be honest.

#aplatonic #aplspec #mlp fim #mlp oc #mogai oc #apothiplatonic #non sam apl

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significantouther · 7 months

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I wish societies views on friendships were just like allopl aros say they are to justify their platonormativity. What a nice world to live!

If only...

Sadly, in reality, we live in a world that sees not having friends as a sign of some inherent evilness, that sees not wanting to be called someone's friend or rejecting a friendship as a lack of respect.

A society that views two+ friends developing some other kind of love/attraction for each other as something that ruins their friendship.

A society that through education pushes you to be friends with your classmates or forces you to call them friends regardless of how you feel about them.

Where the mere idea of applying concent to platonic relationships is considered ridiculous and something "funny" kids do. Who ask people to be friends? and who says 'no'? Friendships just happen. They aren't something you seek, they're something you find, something that gets pushed onto you.

#apothiplatonic #nonfriending #platonormativity

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