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waylaid-by-enemies · 2 months
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“Though, I may have a word with the chief…”
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How did the player base not fall in love with Wyll when they first heard the iconic line?
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thenonbinarydetective · 5 months
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Things batfam stans need to leave behind in 2023:
Jason's Lazarus pit rage
Thinking Tim's parents were horribly abusive and hated him
Only caring about Stephanie in terms of her relationship to another person (ex: Tim's bestie/ex/gf or Cass' gf/bestie)
Treating Jason or Stephanie like they're stupid
Feral Demon Child Damian
Permanent sunshine boy Dick Grayson
Any "[blank] was the real violent Robin" discourse
Really just any reducing or sectioning of certain traits to certain batfam members and not allowing other characters to exhibit those same traits (ex: see sunshine Dick Grayson)
But also stealing traits from other characters and projecting them onto someone else (ex: Jason getting Dick's personality in fics. He is not the same type of big brother Dick is canonically)
Purposefully mischaracterizing characters for angst (ex: Dick sent Tim to Arkham, my beloathed. also again see Tim's parents)
Trying really hard to nuclearize the family. They are an unconventional family for many reasons, and that's why they're interesting.
"Alfred solos the batfam"
Making Duke "the normal one" and completely forgetting to give him an actual personality.
Cass using sign language because she can read body language (note: does not apply to YJ Cass who has damaged vocal chords)
Cass being used as a prop for her brothers
Tim being weak, woobified baby
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Don't send hate over these things because idgaf, they are harmful mischaracterizations, and many are built on total ignorance and often racism, classism, ableism, and sexism.
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honestly i never even thought about it like that, but yeah, i can vicariously feel that twist in my stomach at the idea of being an endogenic system (whether or not you call your experience endogenic plurality) and looking through a DNI and seeing you're listed between TERFs and literal Nazis. even if it's not intended to imply equivalence that still has to feel fucking awful.
sending the best of vibes to you! thank you for your posts today
No but I really do think more people should think about it. Like obviously you can make whatever rules you want for your own blog, but I encourage people to think about the difference between "actively supports fascism and bigotry" and "disagrees with me about X obscure intercommunity discourse". Because there's usually a difference worth noting. And I think some people are far too quick to demonize anyone they have any slight disagreement with
- Erin
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sapphoscorner · 16 days
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Btw the reason why I'm always so critical about the our life fandom is because I've been in fandom spaces my whole life I've learned when something is fandom drama (usually ships and opinions which is why it's dumb and should be ignored) and what isn't (calling out behavior in fandoms that make others (usually fans of color) uncomfortable)
I know I could just, not play Baxter DLC, And I don't but that doesn't mean that I can't look at it and point out its flaws because that is simply not how I consume media, me pointing out the flaws of something doesn't mean that I hate it. And as I said many times before, my issue isn't even Baxter it's his fans and how they treat him and how you can't say a single thing about them or they'll start Having a victim complex...which is dumb because this is a fucking 2D character get a grip.
I know I could also just make sapphic MCs with tamarack that doesn't change the fact that tamarack is heavily ignored and is preferred to qiu and some of you can't even spell their name it get their pronouns right (which is both racist and transphobic ESPECIALLY BECAUSE QIU SPELLS OUT THEIR NAME FOR YOU, HOW DO YOU MESS UP A THREE LETTER WORD).
What I'm trying to say is that I can Ignore those aspects, I can do that and I do because is not worth my fucking time but that doesn't mean that I can't get tired and rightfully want to speak out about it.
This isn't negativity these are conversations that need to be talked about because I don't care how much something it's a form of escapism for you, not pointing out the flaws of a community or the media itself isn't the way to go it is fundamentally going against critical thinking skills and ... lowkey it feels like you guys aren't respecting Kab (GB lady) as a person, she's a grown woman she can handle criticism. Also shit in fandoms need to be called out because they're never safe spaces for fans of colors and, surprisingly in this case, queer fans. If this is supposed to be a safe space if someone that is from a marginalized community you're not a part of calls some shit out, you sit back and listen and even if you are part of the community try to see where they are coming from instead of taking It as a personal attack
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rhaenin-time · 3 months
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I just find it wild how there are so many people out there insisting Rhaegar and Lyanna MUST have wed because they REALLY want them to be wed so they can say:
"Jon's not actually a bastard! You know, that totally objective label for a totally non-flexible concept of illegitimate birth. There's a piece of paper out there that says that everyone who mistreated Jon for being a bastard is WRONG. Not because it's wrong to mistreat someone for being a bastard though! They were just wrong for treating him like a bastard when really he WASN'T. He was a REAL BOY all along."
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uncanny-tranny · 6 months
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To be a bigot is to fundamentally give into cowardice. I've had so much frustration with the type of bigot who presents their bigotry as a "joke" or who couches their bigotry behind smoke and mirrors, but frankly, that's all bigotry is: a cowardice, giving into fear and refusing to let that go. Yes, it's infuriating when a bigot knows what they are saying is unacceptable, so they hide it behind allegory and metaphor, but what do you expect? To be a bigot is to be a coward.
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gertritude-art · 3 months
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i love peresona 4 because it sucks. its my favourite persona game. i would kill the writers with a brick if i could. play it or dont
If I don't play it, though, then how am I suppose to argue with persona fans online about it...?
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monkiekidtwt · 6 months
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i just wanted to ask, would you ever share your account on twitter so people who don’t want to be posted to other social media sites aren’t? mainly because of the whole erlang video inciting a lot of malice towards people who were angered by the results even after the whole situation has died down and posts have been deleted.
I’ve said this before, but for the sake of clarity:
Nah. I don’t want folks to DM me there to send more harassment cuz I know multiple people on LMKtwt have a few Issues with me.
Obviously, though, I don’t condone harassment. I lightheartedly poke fun at these people because they’re glorified bullies trying to live out their high school mean girl fantasies over a LEGO poll. If anyone goes back and bullies them in turn, then that person’s equally as bad and is not the arbiter of justice they think they are.
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strrwbrrryjam · 8 months
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the high honour vs low honour discourse is bullshit because arthur morgan is not a bad man. it is so integral to the story of the game that arthur morgan isn't a bad man, with how he interacts with the strangers, he's always polite, curious and makes friendly conversation, with certain conversations in camp, his responses to kieran, when kieran thanks him for letting him stay in the gang and arthur, however reluctantly, thanks him for saving his life, or his conversations with the girls, where he's doing bad things, and he feels awful doing these bad things, it doesn't matter if you're playing high honour or low honour, these interactions arent altered, cant be changed, because that's who he is, a good man.
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feelingthedisaster · 10 days
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okay, who tf is going around aftg blogs just to send the same "kevin is a coward" ask over and over?
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STOP GIVING MEN☕ MICROPHONES!!!
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I honestly don't know why they didn't immediately boo him off the stage!
This man really stood in front an entire audience of graduating students (who are probably all 10x smarter than he is), singled out the female graduates and basically told them they've wasted their time and should go back to the kitchen and make babies!
His mother, a physicist, would have been a better candidate to make this speech. I hope she whoops tf out of him for this!
This man is apparently married! I hope his wife is embarrassed af, cuz imagine being dumb enough to marry a man like this!
He's also friends with Travis Kelce. That's another red flag with that man! First we find out he's a serial cheater, then he gets ragefull outbursts on the field while playing, now he works with misogynistic homophobes! I hope Taylor dumps him quick!
Everyone loves to judge women by the company they keep, so they better bring the same energy for Travis!
Who wants to bet that people are gonna start using this as an excuse to hate on Taylor Swift!
Sign the petition to get Harrison removed from the team👇
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patrochillesvibes · 16 days
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Classics Fandom Wall of Shame
All I want to do is to enjoy Patroclus x Achilles content. To ship one of the oldest ships of known history. But people just gotta be bigots about it.
Anyways, here's my wall of shame of human garbage in no particular order:
@thehelplessmortals - Racist
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@margaretkart - Racist
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this post
@alatismeni-theitsa - Racist
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taffywabbit · 9 months
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i've been playing through the leaked N64 prototype build of Dinosaur Planet (that rareware game that got turned into Starfox Adventures on the gamecube later) over the past couple nights and i gotta say... i think people gave the gibberish alien voice acting in Adventure a bit more hate than it deserved? like don't get me wrong, it WAS hilariously awkward and impossible to take seriously, but i'd take that shit ANY day over having to listen to... a handful of british people doing the most inscrutable attempts at racist accents i've maybe EVER heard in a video game??? like holy FUCK it's bad y'all. in fact the entire chunk of the game in Swapstone Circle is pretty much fully unsalvageable. the music, the iconography, the way the NPCs talk and are dressed, the literal most basic tropes of the storyline itself in that area... good grief, it's no wonder that entire chunk of the game was cut from the final product. absolutely wild that anyone at Rare thought that shit was okay to include, even 20+ years ago
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I would also argue that plurality can often be a coping mechanism for trauma, without necessarily following the pattern described in DID. It's fairly new that DID has even been described thoroughly. Until recently in most of the world, who uses ICD, there was a vague "other dissociative disorders -multiple personalities" which had zero description or clinical requirements. What's now diagnosed as DID, would for a long time get diagnosed as schizophrenia.
The diagnostic categories are always changing and it's ok to use them as a definition, but you can't use them as a Truth, in the sense that any one type of experience could only occur within The Disorder...
Yeah like while it isn't this bad today, in the past everything from being queer to "hysteria" to protesting slavery has been "mental illnesses" in the DSM and I wouldn't assume the ICD has a much better history. So like. It's kinda important that we keep questioning and editing that thing. Even as most of the more horrendous stuff has been cut through the years, the DSM (and also the ICD) is still a work in progress, not The Final Truth. It's definitely not apolitical and inherently above criticism
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thefirstknife · 11 months
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While I 100% agree that if people aren't having fun they should take a step back/quit, I don't like the "if you're not having fun just go find another game" argument because it's so often used to shut down actual legitimate criticism from people who are otherwise enjoying the game but want genuine problems to be addressed. (I've seen it, for example, when people try to bring up bigotry in games and suggest maybe making some changes to remove it. I always get wary when I see people say it now.)
Oh yeah absolutely. There's real criticism that we have to be able to point out and discuss. A lot of the times people use this for any minor criticism someone has and I agree, that's often a way to shut down the conversation. Criticism in general is supposed to come from a place of love: you love something and you want to see it be better.
Unfortunately, in this case, when the community turns into ONLY negativity and criticism, it's kinda hard to believe they care about the game anymore. If people still had some positive stuff to engage with and were enjoying the game but had issues, then sure. But most of the negativity online right now is just purely rage bait. Bungie apparently has no redeeming qualities, and Destiny is dead. Misinformation is spreading about everything: all devs abandoned Destiny to work on Marathon (claim with no source that's accepted as fact and makes no sense: Destiny is the only game making them money, they can't abandon it before Marathon is out. Like, logically), monetisation is the worst in the industry (I genuinely don't believe that they play other games if they think that Destiny's monetisation is the worst in the industry), Bungie is maliciously banning people for fun (????) but also Bungie isn't banning people enough, Bungie is maliciously making server issues and didn't develop a "fix server" button in their office, game development is easy and Bungie is just lazy and the devs don't want to tell us anything because they're evil, Destiny is falling apart and nobody is playing anymore (just trust me bro), and most recent one which is possibly the most baffling of all - Bungie Foundation is a scam to write off taxes. Yes, that is currently discourse (which apparently gets recycled every year). Bungie Foundation, a charity organisation that's been going on for 13 years and is an independent registered organisation, is a scam. This is where we're at with the community mentality. And there's even more.
When we're at this point, it's truly something else. Like, if they believe conspiracy theories about Bungie and think Bungie is scamming them, maybe they just shouldn't play the game anymore. Why are they still here if they think this is all a scam? I would drop the game if I believed any of this so strongly.
Normal people having criticism and all is perfectly fine however! I did my fair share especially recently about the season pass pricing changes which I called a predatory practice and still believe it is. There's a lot more stuff to complain about while still enjoying the game and not basing your entire online existence and personality on hating Bungie. If they've got nothing else to do besides sitting on twitter shitting on Bungie, maybe it's time to move on.
I've also had my suspicions about the motives for hardcore Bungie hate after the incidents involving transphobic attacks on Bungie devs following the LF showcase, as well as all the crap about Nimbus and their VA. Given the recent developments about the general anti-LGBT+ mentality, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a contingent of people who are focusing on Bungie more than anyone else for how outspoken they are in their support for LGBT+ causes. Like, not to do some big reach or something but it's fairly curious that gamers online are adopting the anti-LGBT+ sentiments while Bungie is aggressively supportive. It just rubs me the wrong way that the one company that's committed to this and has been for years before most other companies jumped on the bandwagon is the one that they're choosing to paint as the worst villain. And the LGBT+ support isn't even all, as Bungie has other initiatives where they actively support women's right, reproductive rights, poc rights, disability rights and so on). I don't know, I've been a part of the gaming community for a long time and while there's been massive changes since the early days (and since gamergate days), the issues of bigotry in gaming remain. It feels particularly suspicious to, out of ALL companies, single out Bungie which invests in charities and progressive causes. Like, in the grand scheme of things, every corpo is robbing me blind, I know that, I have to give money to corpos to live on this Earth, so I at least want to give it to a corpo that considers me to be a human being and funds causes that promote my rights, instead of wanting me dead.
Ironically, all of this weird hate makes it harder to have actual normal criticism. It just gets drowned and lost in the sea of exaggerated bullshit and lies and conspiracies perpetuated by people who just don't seem to like the game anymore. At the end of the day, it's a video game. Whatever criticism we have, if it gets to the point where we just can't handle the state of the game, the best way to show it is to simply stop playing. A deluge of harassment on twitter will not bring about meaningful change nor will it adequately convey our criticism to anyone. If they truly want some changes, they would do this criticism in a way that matters, instead of creating a horde of angry gamers who will latch onto every lie and create a hate bandwagon.
#destiny 2#bungie#long post#ask#i def agree with the premise of the ask btw. if that isn't clear#not all criticism is just meaningless rage#unfortunately it's harder than ever to parse through the bullshit to find it#and like. if this leads to less monetisation or something. sure. I'd like that too#but the methods being employed here are literally only hurting community managers devs and the community itself#the marketing board of execs at bungie who decided on monetisation aren't reading twitter comments#going at bungie won't solve the problems of capitalism#you gotta join a different cause to do that my working class siblings#check a discussion on the industry from thiccest_yosh on twitter (he's a bungie dev)#he specifically called out monetisation ruining art as well as misinformation and rage being spread by CCs#refreshing to see this being said directly and publicly by someone who works in the industry#and one more note on the bigotry stuff that made me bitter about aztecross and his stupid video the most#aztecross played supported and promoted hogshit legacy. this big 'anti-corpo warrior'#funding one of the biggest bigots in the world who actively works on trying to kill as many people as possible. totally fine i guess#'it's just a video game.' but with bungie it's life and death apparently#it makes me super bitter and suspicious. especially given how many CCs were in on misgendering characters#i dont trust any of these people. they're a business and when the business is bigotry they gladly participate
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gun-witch · 11 months
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I am very curious about how so many bigoted authors are able to reconcile their bigotry with the messages of their stories. No, no JK Rowling, her bigotry is woven into the very fabric of her worldbuilding and everyone knows it. No, the author that's really making me question this is Orson Scott Card.
Orson Scott Card wrote a series of books called the Speaker Trilogy, called this because the first book, Ender's Game, is really just a really long prologue to the real first book, Speaker for the Dead. These books shaped my worldview growing up, they're what made me really question conservative talking points I was fed growing up in Canada (despite popular belief, a horrifically racist place).
I distinctly remember a particular quote repeated throughout the series, one I might paraphrase because I haven't gone back to check, I'm only writing now as I remember it:
"When I fully understand my enemy, I love him. And when that happens, I destroy him."
The context was a child soldier lamenting the genocide he is being railroaded into helping perpetrate, how he thinks the efforts to understand an enemy to defeat them would be better suited in finding peace. It's repeated throughout the series, turning into a motto about how it is impossible to be educated and bigoted at the same time.
But there's a hole in that. The guy who wrote this line is incredibly homophobic and holds borderline fascist views on other civil rights such as gun control. The guy who ended his trilogy with a book about a rebellion defeating the human empire by the strength of its diversity (and a nuke they stole) simultaneously supports the formation of such an oppressive empire in the real world and the disarming of anyone who would oppose it.
When I think about things like this I have to wonder how this even happens, how someone can so intentionally spell out a message contrary to their own beliefs. Sometimes it makes sense, like how when I was a teenager I thought there was no way JK Rowling was as left wing as she claimed, or how HP Lovecraft's stories slowly shifted from fearing the alien and unknown to celebrating it as he grew to hate his own bigoted past. But sometimes you get Orson Card, someone who writes of diversity but demands it be criminalized.
I don't have an answer on how this happens, I barely understand regular humans let alone bigoted ones, I just kind of wanted to put this out there in case someone has something to add.
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