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I really enjoy the way you guys write Dumbledore. I feel like there's a fine line people tread when they write him and if they take a step too far in either direction, he either becomes a cackling supervillain who gleefully curses people left and right, or a bumbling idiot who means well and just didn't mean for all this to happen he promises!! Which actually makes it even worse because what the fuck do you mean you had no idea things could get that bad at the Dursleys or that you didn't mean to set Harry up with all these quests to groom him for suicide-
The way you write him in The Man Who Would Be King and Amulette d'amour is just perfect, like yes, that's exactly how he would act and react to certain events and when things go wrong. Things almost never go wrong for him in canon and he was always in control all the way to the very end so it's hard to tell how he would react if his meticulously crafted plans go awry but I really think the both of you nailed it.
It's easy to see why people adore and trust Dumbles, and when the mask starts falling away for some people, almost no one believes them/they just brush it off. The way he can just slip from loveable grandfatherly figure to manipulative bastard is so good. I can almost understand why Minerva is so loyal to him when he basically admitted to assaulting a Muggle woman. Even if it was a genuinely frustrating moment for me (which reminds me- I also love your interpretation of her character! Hope to see more of her!)
The Man Who Would be King by me and @therealvinelle and Amulette d'Amour by me and @therealvinelle
Thank you anon! I can't tell you how flattered I am because Dumbledore is often one of the hardest characters for us to write (there's a lot of bickering over "would Dumbledore do this horrible thing or this horrible thing" and "yes, Dumbledore would think that deep down, but would never acknowledge it and so he'd react by doing X" and many such squabbles).
It's very gratifying to hear when we nail him because a lot of the time... I don't want to bash the guy, really, it's just he's awful. He's so awful.
And ooh praise for Minerva too!
Look, @therealvinelle, praise!
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fanfic-lover-girl · 2 months
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Taking Gryffindors and Their Stans to Court
So I thought it would be fun to compile a list of crimes committed by various Gryffindor characters, especially the ones I have seen stans blatantly glorify or condone. This is also fueled by the narrative ignoring how horrific these actions are as well. For each, I will provide the definition of the crime as listed in British law (hyperlink provided in the crime category), cite the guilty parties and cite some of the flimsy defences provided by stans. The characters include, but are not limited to:
Hermione Granger
Weasley twins
Marauders (especially James Potter and Sirius Black)
Rubeus Hagrid
Professor McGonagall
This post will be a work in progress so I will add as I go along. Please feel free to add as well. Also, I am not a legal expert so do not expect these categories to be 100% accurate despite my doing my best. Here I go!
Crime: Sexual Harassment
The Equality Act 2010 says someone sexually harasses another person if they:
Engage in unwanted conduct of a sexual nature and
The conduct has the purpose or effect of either violating the other person’s dignity or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.
Guilty parties: James Potter and other marauders as accomplices (Snape's Worst Memory, Book 5)
But too late; Snape had directed his wand straight at James; there was a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James’s face, spattering his robes with blood. James whirled about: a second flash of light later, Snape was hanging upside-down in the air, his robes falling over his head to reveal skinny, pallid legs and a pair of greying underpants. Many people in the small crowd cheered; Sirius, James and Wormtail roared with laughter.
There was another flash of light, and Snape was once again hanging upside-down in the air. ‘Who wants to see me take off Snivelly’s pants?’
Said by Marauder/James stans:
Snape was a future DE so he deserved it; ie. future criminals/bullies deserve to be bullied before they commit said crime. Someone had to bully Snape.
What James did was not sexual harassment
Snape is a guy so he can't be sexually harassed
I hate Snape so I love seeing him hurt and in pain (perfectly valid reason, we can hate who we want. still listing it though)
Boys will be boys. The marauders are just teenage boys joking around.
In that period, what James did was not illegal
Snape called Lily a mudblood so he deserved it
Snape attacked James so he deserved it
Crime: Kidnapping
The legal definition of kidnapping is to take someone unwillingly and then keep them illegally imprisoned without their valid consent. The latter is normally done with motive, such as financial gain in the form of a ransom.
Guilty parties: Hermione Granger (The Beginning, Book 4)
‘Oh, not electronic bugs,’ said Hermione. ‘No, you see … Rita Skeeter’ – Hermione’s voice trembled with quiet triumph – ‘is an unregistered Animagus. She can turn –’ Hermione pulled a small sealed glass jar out of her bag. ‘– into a beetle.’
Said by Hermione stans:
Rita deserved it for being a sleazy journalist and saying mean things about her and her friends
Rita deserved it by committing a crime first as an illegal animagus. So she has no leverage against Hermione.
Crime: Child Cruelty (Or Child Endangerment/Abuse)
The offence in section 1 of the 1933 Act is committed where a person over the age of 16, who has responsibility for a child under that age, wilfully assaults, illtreats, neglects, abandons, or exposes that child in a manner likely to cause ‘unnecessary suffering or injury to health including any mental derangement’.
Guilty parties: Prof Minerva McGonagall (Snape’s Grudge, Book 3)
Professor McGonagall was so furious with him she had banned him from all future Hogsmeade visits, given him a detention and forbidden anyone to give him the password into the Tower. Poor Neville was forced to wait outside the common room every night for somebody to let him in . . .
Context: An alleged mass murderer (Sirius Black) was on the loose 🫠
Said by McGonagall stans:
She's just strict
Crime: Assault
An assault is any act (and not mere omission to act) by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence.
Guilty parties:
Rubeus Hagrid (The Keeper of the Keys, Book 1)
He brought the umbrella swishing down through the air to point at Dudley — there was a flash of violet light, a sound like a firecracker, a sharp squeal and next second, Dudley was dancing on the spot with his hands clasped over his fat bottom, howling in pain. When he turned his back on them, Harry saw a curly pig’s tail poking through a hole in his trousers. ... ‘Oh, well — I was at Hogwarts meself but I — er — got expelled, ter tell yeh the truth. In me third year. They snapped me wand in half an’ everything.’
Fred & George Weasley (Back to the Burrow, Book 4 & Snape's Worst Memory, Grawp;Book 5) - two for the price of one lol
Dudley was no longer standing behind his parents. He was kneeling beside the coffee table, and he was gagging and spluttering on a foot-long, purple, slimy thing that was protruding from his mouth. One bewildered second later, Harry realised that the foot-long thing was Dudley’s tongue — and that a brightly coloured toffee-wrapper lay on the floor before him.
‘Yeah, Montague tried to do us during break,’ said George. ‘What do you mean, “tried”?’ said Ron quickly. ‘He never managed to get all the words out,’ said Fred, ‘due to the fact that we forced him head-first into that Vanishing Cabinet on the first floor.’ ‘Not until Montague reappears, and that could take weeks, I dunno where we sent him,’ said Fred coolly. ‘Anyway … we’ve decided we don’t care about getting into trouble any more.’
To cap matters, Montague had still not recovered from his sojourn in the toilet; he remained confused and disorientated and his parents were to be observed one Tuesday morning striding up the front drive, looking extremely angry.
Hermione Granger (Felix Felicis, Book 6)
‘Oppugno!’ came a shriek from the doorway. Harry spun round to see Hermione pointing her wand at Ron, her expression wild: the little flock of birds was speeding like a hail of fat golden bullets towards Ron, who yelped and covered his face with his hands, but the birds attacked, pecking and clawing at every bit of flesh they could reach.
Said by Hagrid stans:
Like with Minerva, I don't see Hagrid stans or regular fans bringing this up. But crimes against the Dursleys are usually justified by the fandom due to their being abusive to Harry.
Said by Weasley twins stans:
The Dursleys were abusive to Harry so Dudley deserved it.
Dudley brought it on himself by eating it. The twins did not force him to eat it.
It was just a joke - harmless fun (for both crimes)
They did not know what the cabinet would do
They did not intend to almost kill Montague
Montague deserved it because HE WAS TAKING HOUSE POINTS (***INSERT RAGE!!!!***)
The twins are just mischievous. They are so funny!
Said by Hermione/Romione stans:
It was just a mistake
Hermione has anger issues. She's just a teenage girl.
Hermione was distraught. She didn't mean it.
Ron deserved it for hurting queen Hermione.
Ron doesn't care so why do you?
Romione is the best HP ship ever. All ships have rough patches.
No matter what Hermione does, I will always ship her with Ron. The other options are not good for her.
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I will pause here because I can feel my blood pressure rising. I don't really have beef with anyone, I just don't like seeing these takes on my dash or these responses on my anti blog posts. I have no control over people's opinions and I doubt more than a handful of people care about mine.
Will continue next time on Taking Gryffindors and Their Stans to Court!
PS. All attempts to deflect by pointing the finger at other characters like Draco Malfoy, DEs, Severus Snape etc will be ignored. This is about JKR's darlings who apparently can do no wrong and the stans who shamelessly justify violence.
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moonlightdancer26 · 2 years
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Many Snape antis love using Neville’s Boggart as evidence of Snape being a horrible professor, but why does no one talk about how we see Neville’s Boggart before McGonagall locked him out of the Gryffindor common room when there was a mass-murderer, who was seen standing next to the Fat Lady’s portrait and who had very recently broken into Neville’s dorm and nearly killed Neville’s friend? There is no way in hell Snape would still be his Boggart after that.
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adharastarlight · 2 years
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Sirius, jumping onto a chair: ew! someone kill it!!!
Mcgonagall: Sirius you cannot do that every time Severus walks in.
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evieswritingblog · 7 months
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Ok but the only reason the marauders had to die was because Lily Evans was too big of a threat.
If even only Lily had survived, I am certain that the length of the books would be halved, voldemort defeated in a few pages, and a lot fewer deaths.
Going through marauders tags and reading some fics, we all agree that Lily was a complete badass, and everyone was terrified of her. Now imagine that with a mother's wrath? Yeah, each book would've lasted 6 chapters maximum, and dumbledore, snape, and practically the whole ministry would have been seen as the assholes they are.
I love my wife, stan Lily Evans, or get bad karma <3
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batwingsrosa · 24 days
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„But Snape was Nevilles biggest fear!!!“
So……
McGonnagal was Hermiones worst fear?
Because that‘s what you are saying.
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noahmullariii · 14 days
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do I believe any character's trust in Dumbledore could potentially be broken? yes. have I ever seen anybody write it in ways that make sense for those characters' unique perspectives and personalities? no.
and a lot of times it's still compelling as hell when the most devoted characters start seeing cracks early or when they fight for something else in the first place, not regarding Dumbledore as their guiding light at all. it turns those characters into different people though.
but what strikes me more is the immediate shift of the atmosphere of the first war and everything that happens throughout.
because when I think about the first Order of the Phoenix and Dumbledore, my first association is, surprisingly, cult of personality. USSR cults, specifically. they were sort of unique, initially crafted to give more power to the Party instead of the Leader.
Order is similar, in a way. on the surface it's just resistance. an organised war effort. a mishmash of people from different backgrounds uniting to fight for personal reasons. James fights for the greater good and his righteous ideals. and James fights for Lily. Lily fights for herself and those marginalised like her. and Lily fights for her muggle family. Sirius doesn't fight for, but against - against his blood family, against Slytherins, against everybody like them. and Sirius fights with James. those 3 are simple. what about others?
Remus doesn't fight for or against. Remus fights with Dumbledore. because Remus' world revolves around Dumbledore and when he says "go die in a war" - Remus goes, no questions asked. he owes Dumbledore that much. Peter doesn't fight for or against. Peter fights with Dumbledore. because Peter wants to be safe and Peter wants to win. Dumbledore promises a win. Peter believes him until he doesn't.
but James also fights with Dumbledore. because Dumbledore is the greater good personified and shares James' righteous ideals. Lily also fights with Dumbledore. because Dumbledore fights for marginalised the loudest. Sirius also fights with Dumbledore. because Dumbledore fights against everybody who's like Sirius' family.
Dumbledore, Dumbledore, Dumbledore. the centre of it all, the bonfire of hope, the beacon of light, the daimon of good. Order is Dumbledore, first and foremost - not Moody, Alice, Frank, Dorcas, Marlene, Prewetts, Caradoc, James, Lily, Sirius, Remus or Peter. not any of the others. it's Albus Dumbledore and the blind, the devoted.
it doesn't fall apart until it's too late. it's only Sirius who gets a chance to notice but he promptly denies it, locked up in a cell for 12 years, carefully tucked away by Dumbledore. he trusts Dumbledore.
he trusts Dumbledore when he escapes, he trusts Dumbledore with Harry, he trusts Dumbledore when he tells Sirius to hide at Lupin's, he trusts Dumbledore when he locks Sirius up in his childhood house of terrors, he trusts Dumbledore when he assembles second Order. he joins Dumbledore, he fights with Dumbledore again, even locked up and angry, and the only time he doesn't trust Dumbledore with either Harry or himself he goes, and fights for Harry, and dies.
others are dead, or tortured, or new, or Remus. Remus who is the blindest and the most devoted. Remus who owes Dumbledore, believes that he owes Dumbledore everything and more. the new don't know any better yet, but Remus does and ignores it. he trusts Dumbledore. trusts him with Harry, and with Sirius, and with himself.
Remus joins Dumbledore, fights with Dumbledore again. sees Dumbledore destroy Sirius - looks the other way, sees Dumbledore destroy himself - deifies him even more in his death, sees Dumbledore's ghost destroy Harry - wants to join him to be destroyed too. because there's nothing left - Dumbledore gifted him his heart at 11, and it died piece by piece in the span of 16 years, and then Dumbledore dies himself, and he can't gift Remus another heart, another life. so Remus blinds himself some more, fights with Dumbledore's ghost and dies. probably for Dumbledore too.
and if all of that can happen when a small group of people simply trusts one mortal man, it's going to take a lot more than a wayward thought in one of those devoted heads to see the cracks. it's going to take a lot of thoughts, a lot of heads, a lot of cracks. a lot of discussions and a fair share of arm-twisting and change of faith. it surely must be a group effort in one way or another, preferably with the help of those who aren't as devoted. if there are any.
because as lovely and as gratifying as it is to read about Remus or Sirius or even Minerva blowing up at Albus - if you don't write them getting to that point after deconstructing their prior canon beliefs... then those characters aren't really Remus, Sirius or Minerva. especially not Remus who was always the most devoted of them all.
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severussnapemylove · 6 months
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Severus; “I’m a moderate, peaceful, and rational man, truth be told.”
Minerva; “Just yesterday you threw a chair at Sirius...”
Severus; “Yes, which was a moderate, peaceful, and rational compromise from the table I was initially planning on launching at that bastard.”
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robynngaeblack · 2 years
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During the Halloween feast.
Snape, walks in his usual attire:
Minerva, in a fairy costume: I thought we promised to come in with our costume!
Snape: But I am in my costume.
Snape, bringing his cloak to cover half of his face:
Snape, in a deep voice: I'm batman
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bookworm-2000 · 5 months
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Reasons to hate Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore.
- Left Harry on the doorstep of a household that a trusted employee and friend had strongly warned against in the cold with a letter explaining what had happened.
Straight up, was he checked for any damage other than the scar? Injuries from fallen debris. Shock from seeing his mother killed, yes babies can experience shock. Hypothermia from literally just the travel from Godrics Hollow to Privet Drive on a f l y i n g m o t o r b i k e.
Next, there’s no protection charm placed on him, at least not one that’s mentioned, meaning he was left out in the cold with a single blanket! Again, possible hypothermia! It’s mid autumn there! In Britain!
Not to mention the unprotected letter that explained what had happened! What if someone else had come along and read the letter? Good going there, Dumbles. The wizarding world is now completely exposed, and there’s a worldwide witch and wizard hunt! Also, a letter?! McGonagall points this out, you want to explain what happened to him in a letter?! The Dursley’s aren’t going to understand how famous he is and then his reasoning for this is, in short, the ‘fame’ would overwhelm him.
As if it didn’t when he got to Hogwarts!
To me, this is him being a coward. He’s not facing Petunia because one, he denied her access into the wizarding world (which wasn’t his fault. She’s a muggle, it’s not possible but still) and two, he would have to be the one to say to her face that Lily is dead and that she’s now being saddled with Lily’s son, who she had already shown distain for when they (the Dursley’s) hadn’t even been aware of what was going on.
Then he went against McGonagall’s advise because ‘my decisions are the best decisions’. This women who had stuck with him through teaching the Marauders and Lily, through the first wizarding war against Voldemort, and through watching almost all their students die together, etc. He ignored her advice.
What I also don’t get is his blasè attitude towards Lily and James�� death. Here’s McGonagall trying to figure out if her worst nightmare has come true and this piece of work is offering her a sherbet lemon. A SHERBET LEMON.
The only side I see here where he did right was Hagrid bringing Harry and this is just speculation, because ofc Dumbledore doesn’t need to explain his reasoning.
I think he may have not wanted to apparate with Harry because he was a baby, worried about the side effects.
However! If this was not the reasoning, this man was too f*cking lazy to go and pick up a newly orphaned baby, who was just stuck beside his dead’s mothers’ body.
And this was literally just the first scene where he’s introduced.
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fanfic-lover-girl · 10 months
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‘I agree,’ said Professor McGonagall. ‘And in any case, it is not true to say that Dumbledore never envisaged a situation in which Hogwarts might close. When the Chamber of Secrets reopened he considered the closure of the school – and I must say that Professor Dumbledore’s murder is more disturbing to me than the idea of Slytherin’s monster living undetected in the bowels of the castle …’ (HBP, Chapter 29 – The Phoenix Lament)
Sometimes I wonder why people don't comment on how cult-like the Order of the Phoenix is. At least people like the Malfoys, Snape and even freaking Bellatrix doubted Moldy Voldy at some point. The OotP treat Dumbles like a god, following orders like blind believers. It's disgusting. They act like how pop culture thinks Christians act - brainless puppets. Jesus Christ had more resistance from his disciples than Dumbles ever does from his! And Jesus is God! Let that sink in. Ok, mini Christianity rant over :)
Also, people bash Snape for being a terrible teacher while worshipping 'Queen McGonagall'. She has her moments but she's a crap teacher too. Honestly, as far as I am concerned she's WORSE than Snape. Because just like many other Gryffindor characters, her faults are never acknowledged.
Good to know, Minerva, that a monster threatening the lives of your dear students is less disturbing than an old man being murdered. You certainly have your priorities straight :). With the way how this woman fangirls over Dumbles, if I did not know better, I would believe she had something happening on the side with the old geezer.
Hogwarts truly does not give a single crap about students.
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moonlightdancer26 · 2 years
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Severus' Slytherins possibly saw him the same way the Gryffindors saw Minerva: a formidable force you wouldn't want to cross. Though I doubt he'd be the reason they cry in their sleep. Nor do I think he'd force them in a dangerous situation after a alleged mass murderer broke onto the school twice.
Ooo yes, I definitely think so!
Though I doubt he'd be the reason they cry in their sleep. Nor do I think he'd force them in a dangerous situation after a alleged mass murderer broke onto the school twice.
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nerdyerror · 2 months
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Minerva McGonagall FACTS
She is actually only in her 50s when Harry comes to Hogwarts, which means she’s around the same age as Arthur Weasley
She would absolutely have been a better leader of the order of the phoenix and everything would’ve gone better if snape went to her after y’know every problem he faced
She is pro trans and doesn’t not approve or allow any purposeful misgendering of HER students
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writerswritewriting · 10 months
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Doing an (unofficial) Harry Potter wordsearch puzzle book and on of them is about 'muggle games and puzzles' and has Hungry Hungry hippos on there and now I can't stop thinking about some pure blood students hearing the aggressive CLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACK and walking in on a group of muggle-born students playing it and just not knowing that the fuck is happening
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I love seeing snaters get hysterical about Snape’s treatment of Neville…
“He traumatized him!!!” 🤣
Wait till they hear about what Minerva did to him..
(It wasn’t just Snape and Minerva being asses to him either…)
No, I will never stop bringing this up because they pretend to care about how Neville was treated but they really don’t. If they DID then Snape wouldn’t be the main one on their attack list. Snape wasnt the one who put him in physical danger multiple times…all Snape did was make one empty threat and a couple of side remarks💀
Idk about yall, but I feel like putting a child in potentially DEADLY situations for no reason is worse than making an empty threat to his pet toad in hopes it would get him to brew his potion correctly…
And the Boggart argument always has me hollering 🤣 reading skills are scarce these days
Like I get it…Snape was an ass and he was wrong for being like that towards Nev. I agree…but let’s call ALL of them out, don’t pick and choose💀
It’s just getting stale now 😩
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dramioneasks · 6 months
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I once read ,about H being sent to Slitherin, but no one there liked her, at the beginning ,because she was of Muggle origin, and they mocked ,her until he met her Muggle parents, it turned out that H's family ,treated her very badly ,and that D didn't like it, as did his godfather, Severus Snape, who later became H's adoptive father, and McGonagall was the adoptive mother, unfortunately I don't remember the title, so I don't know if you'll find this story.
This?
The Queen of Slytherin by MyWhiteKnight - T, WIP - When a young Hermione Granger meets the snide, rude Draco Malfoy, she finds a new goal in her young, magical life: prove to every pureblood git that she is just as good, if not better than them.
-Lisa
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