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currantlee · 4 months
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The A in LGBTQAI+ does not stand for ally. Yeah, allies are cool and all, but the A isn’t for them. The A is for all lovely aros and aces who are just as queer as I am.
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0w0tsuki · 3 months
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If you ever find yourself mad about "trans lesbian separatism" or "baeddelism" or whatever word you've found to paint trans women having solidarity/community with each other as exclusionary, have you considered not burning every bridge you have with transfems while expecting us to be the ones to put all the effort into rebuilding them while you hold the burning torch, and maybe JUST MAYBE considered listening to us when we talk about transmisogyny and worked to making this a safer space for us.
Like I dunno I think if I had a problem where transfems deal with such scrutiny and vitriol in the queer community that trans women have their whole community ripped out from them so they seek out like-minded trans women who aren't going to abandon them the instant that associating with them would negatively affect their social credibility and I was someone invested in TransUnity™ that the solution would be to work on the transmisogyny problem to make my community a safer space so they wouldn't feel the need to do that instead what y'all are doing which is which hunting for trans women you can brand as exclusionists for the purpose of excluding them. Which you know, only makes the "trans women don't feel safe in the queer community" problem worse. This is literally yall rn
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cardentist · 4 months
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the nature of rape being a taboo topic that nobody wants to talk about is that people will tell you point blank to your face that people like you don't experience trauma or violence of any kind, you will explain the trauma and violence that you have experienced for being the kind of person that you are, and then they'll "call you out" for trauma dumping while not changing their position at all.
denying the pain that a class of people experience will get hundreds upon thousands of notes, while those same people describing their pain will be avoided because their pain is inconvenient or uncomfortable, only to be spoken of in hushed voices in the dark.
"I don't talk about that kind of thing," "that isn't what I want on my blog," "that's inappropriate."
we shamelessly deny the lived experiences of other people while not being able to handle the reality of those experiences. appointing ourselves as experts on things that we refuse to say out loud. and this is rewarded over and over and over again.
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cherrytea556 · 11 days
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I just know the lgb will be up in arms and come at me with their pitch-knife forks if i tell them that i would genuinely be more accepted as a lesbian than as an aroace
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arctic-hands · 8 months
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I keep saying this in reblogs to other posts but I'm going to say this in an original post now because holy shit
You cannot carbon copy paste queer discourse into other non-queer facets of life. Physically disabled people are not equivalent to terfs or "exclusionary" just because the cripplepunk community is for physically disabled people. This isn't any more exclusionary than a white person such as myself not being allowed to say a racial slur. Life doesn't work like that holy shit
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transfaguette · 9 months
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genuinely what is the end goal of being an exclusionist. do you just like being a cop? is that it?
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shmaroace · 2 years
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i literally have no words except what the fuck
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intersexfairy · 7 months
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daily reminder i guess that "queer exclusionism" and "online discourse" isn't just internet bullshit. it has harmful, sometimes dangerous, impacts on real people. the people you see spouting even the most vapid queerphobia are real people who go around in their lives and their beliefs hurt others. it even hurts themselves. the internet may not be a physical place, but it still a place. the people on here are still real. it matters.
if all it is to you is nothing, you're either in denial or one of the lucky ones. also queerphobia isn't less important just because it comes from other queer people or takes place online.
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posting-stuffies · 9 months
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Original | Exclu comments
Exclus went full circle.
"I'm attracted to one gender" -> "I am bisexual". Lolgic!
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ballsalsda · 1 month
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Some of you guys arent ready to hear this but he/she/they is not a good alternative and defeats both purposes of singular they to refer to someone of an unknown gender
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d-parade · 6 months
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gender is not self expression
gender is not an aesthetic
i’m not a man because it’s my “self expression”. i’m a man because i feel a disconnect from my sex that isn’t rooted in low self esteem.
edit: many misunderstand. the above statement is an innate disconnect, not a societal disconnect. note the difference.
bigender? you feel like a man and a woman? maybe that’s just attachment to attributes you connect to being a man/ woman in today’s society.
agender? maybe that’s because you’re unsatisfied with the societal attributes attached to being a man/woman.
genderfluid? you have (gasp) fluctuating day to day feelings???????
i’m up for self expression and choosing to be/ look how you want to. but my god that doesn’t make you trans. i mean like 99% of the time it’s literally temporary because your perception, interaction and opinion towards society changes over time.
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cardentist · 4 months
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op turned off reblogs on this post [Link], so I'm reposting this over here:
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it's Extremely Unfortunate that we're at the point in trans masc exclusionism where we have to be hyper vigilant against seemingly innocuous posts.
when the op of this post says "men" in this post she means trans men.
trans men who present masc before (and sometimes during and after) hrt are often clocked as butch lesbians, because they are seen as feminine bodies presenting masculinely.
while there Are cis men who present similarly to butch lesbians (there's a very famous meme about it), how many cis men do you know that are Actively Trying or Want to present like butch lesbians?
or how about the Not Insignificant Overlap between trans mascs And butch lesbians (and lesbians in general)? the amount of trans mascs who identified as lesbians before they knew, who sometimes continue to feel a connection to that community as they realize more about their identity.
when op says "transandrophobia truthers" are the exact group of people this post was made about he's talking about trans mascs. this is a post saying that Trans Mascs aren't The Real Thing. and more specifically, the "transandrophobia truther" dog whistle refers back to trans mascs who stand up for themselves. who want their trauma to be taken seriously, who want to be treated like equals within the community. [Link]
it is a derogatory term that was specifically created by exclusionists to belittle trans mascs who speak up for themselves. it is Explicitly About trans mascs, and yet it's a term that people who are unfamiliar with the harassment happening towards trans mascs won't recognize.
and the nasty thing about it is that op was Intentionally trying to make a jab to hurt and belittle trans mascs while Framing it as a support post for trans and lesbian women. people who don't Already Know are going to interact with this post thinking that it's Only a positivity post.
thinking that it's just a silly little post punching up at cishet society.
when it's transphobia pointed at trans masc people.
I've said it before, but all exclusionism on this site is the same. it's the Exact Same tactics used over and over and over again, just with different targets.
and you saw Exactly this technique with ace exclusion All The Time. make a post that seems silly and lighthearted on the surface, that's Worded like it's referring to a privileged group, so that people pass it around without thinking about it.
but the Undercurrent, is a coded message to hurt a specific minority group, to hurt the target that's Familiar Enough with their own exclusion to read the intended insult.
and by Coding It, by making it a dog whistle instead of making it explicit, it Seems like more people support their position than they do (furthering the feeling of isolation in their victims). and works to help Normalize their talking points as they slowly become more explicit (intending to convert more people).
with asexuals it was "cishets trying to invade queer spaces," with trans mascs it's "men trying to invade trans/women's spaces."
it's intuitive that queer people punch up at cishets, it's Intuitive that trans people and women punch up at men, and That's The Point.
if the op of this post hadn't Explicitly referred to trans mascs in the notes ("transandrophobia truthers"), then I probably wouldn't have figured out what they were doing. I would've felt put off by it (as I was intended to, as it was created with the explicit intent to make people like me feel uncomfortable), but I wouldn't have had reason to look further into it. I probably would've just brushed it off and moved on.
unfortunately the only way around it is hypervigilence (learning the dog whistles, familiarizing yourself with how exclusionists talk about their victims), and hoping that the hand was tipped somewhere. hoping that the people who do this give away what their real Intent was.
and it's frustrating because the Vast Majority of the notes on the original post are just people having fun. who saw a post about trans butch lesbians and got excited and happy. and it's So Gross to see someone weaponize that.
it's unfair that people Need to be hypervigilent about posts About Them. it's one of the more upsetting aspects About exclusionism.
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aspd-thoughts · 5 months
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We’re not saying you should want us to have rights because we think we’re the same as you. We’re saying that to the people who want to kill us, there is no difference between how “good” and “bad” freaks bleed.
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