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jasontoddssuper · 6 months

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My fake feminist trait is that i hate female characters who're super smart and strong and 'ideal' if they're not weird and fun.I'm an autistic and genderqueer woman that grew up getting bullied for being a tomboy who didn't know how to mask and never even considered i could have autism despite blatantly having every single symptom because everyone told me i was 'too smart' and same goes for being trans because i was too 'pretty' so i find them completely unreatable and corny.Goofy girls and weird as fuck girls are my kinda blorbo because i can actually see myself in them and i'll take them anyday over 'no personality,extra high grades' chicks.Idc about mean girlgenius' who're always getting told how perfect they are,they'll be fine,i'm here for the women who would've defended me in school and hung out with me on the weekends to do dumbass shit

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rise-my-angel · 9 months

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I am here for your takes on Dani. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought her x Jon smelled of hot garbage. Like at best she was meh, and then when the two of them met I was just like "oh no....you're an entitled bitch". And now that its been years since I last consumed GoT, my thoughts have fermented into "oh no, she really is a conqueror" "oh no, everyone loves her because 'pretty badass lady'" "oh no i'm the fandom minority again". Anyway, where was I. She and Jon had no chemistry. The end.

The *only* way putting them in a romance even makes sense in concept is when you realize Benioff and Weiss gave Jon the Young Griff arc. It's why they gave him a Targ name, beacuse if they call him "aegon" then they can fufill that part of the books without ever having to establish Young Griff as his own character. He is the supposed son of Rhaegar Targaryean and Elia Martell, he goes to Westeros with intentions of using his better claim to take the throne and intends initially on marrying Dany, and it's theorized heavily that Dany will see his claim as a threat and the Burning of Kings Landing will come down to Aegon against Dany.

Jon Snow has nothing to do with that. He is a moral opposite to Dany as a charecter, and we've seen him time and time again be at strong odds against people with her morals. But by giving him the Young Griff arc, it means putting him into the romance spot when it makes no sense for him.

Hey I put a read more beacuse I cannot shut the fuck up about how this relationship is just rape and abuse but beacuse Jon's a man we think he wants it.

All of season 7 Jon is so out of place because he doesn't belong anywhere near Dany's Iron Throne plot, and he's being forced to interact romantically with a charecter that clearly he does not like as a person and is uncomfortable with.

But, Dany is the sacred cow of the GoT/asoiaf fandom. You love her and if you critizize her for villanious actions or morals then you are using bad faith towards her. While I personally don't like her, I don't mind other people liking her but I despise that her stans all refuse to allow any conversation about her being a morally bad person. A person who enjoys cruelty and death, enjoys creating fear and is smug when she can control others. That is not a person Jon would love, let alone even respect.

Their entire relationship wreaks of abuse, of Jon being forced into this and knows he cannot leave it without risking his and his families lives. Remember when Tyrion gave a very small level critisism of her actions and she angrily accused him of treason and siding with his family instead of her? Well what do people think would she have done, if her attraction to Jon was refused? Someone who she took all the defenses away from, all the power from, and could have killed at any moment (dont make an ygritte comparison mimi dont make an yrgitte comparison this is a different anti jon x fandom female fave charecter post).

I don't care how the show frames it, or what the intent was. What we got on screen, was Jon Snow being held prisoner to an immoral, cruel, military conquerer. And when that woman was attracted to him, she essentially forced herself into his life and gave him all but no choice. The Jon bending the knee scene and..the uh...boat...scene...later...uhhh....anyways, those to me feel so out of charecter. You cannot convince me Jon did any of this willingly. He is clearly trapped in this situation and cannot leave and is only with her beacuse she is violent and bloodthrirsty. But beacause Jon is a strong, capable man, it's not talked about as if he's the victim and that is insane to me. (Oh my good god the ygritte comparisons are almost laughable send help).

I don't consider a lot past season 5 to be canon, but if I am forced too, then I refuse to accept Jon was a willing participant in that relationship.

Jon's parentage reveal will always be about the revelations of his mother, and the understanding and acceptance of WHY Ned raised him the way he did. And how it was both his parents, his mother and his adopted father who loved him and kept him safe. The very fact that Young Griff's entire story is based around whether or not he truly is Rhaegar's son as opposed to that being a twist reveal is beacuse HE is the charecter whose Targaryean links is the important one. Jon's story is about him as Stark, and is always shown to be the moral opposite of Dany.

Their relationship in the best senario is not canon, but if it has to be, then there is no world in which Jon is there of his own free will. He is being forced into this relationship against his will. But considering his other love interest was another charecter who essentially forced him into a relationship against his will, and we were supposed to root for that tells me all I need to know.

Dany is a sacred cow charecter, and her stans are unreasonable in defending her. When you can like a charecter and critize them for their actions. Ned Stark was an idiot for ever trusting Petyr Baelish, Catelyn Stark's spiteful attitude and neglect of Jon Snow is was abusive behavior, Theon Greyjoy was a moron who ruined his own life for a father who long since abandonded him. Bam all charecters I love and there are some major flaws that I refuse to defend them for but thats also what makes them good charecters. Their flaws arent writing flaws, they are personal flaws for them as people.

Dany is not allowed to have personal flaws she is always to be justified even with incredibly bad faith defenses, but when she is flawed it's the writings fault not hers. Dany is a cruel, sadistic, controlling, military tyrant who enjoys watching her subjects fear her and her dragons. And she forced Jon Snow into a relationship with her beacuse otherwise then he is against her and we already knew she has no use for people who dont support her to be alive.

Jon Snow deserved better then to have both his love interests be domineering, controlling, abusive women who forced him into a romantic and sexual relationship.

Also, I mean, incest being normal is only a learned trait from Targaryens supporting their own blood purity. Jon was not raised to think incest is normal. Dany thinks its normal beacuse she and Viserys both were raised to think that, and Young Griff thinks marrying Dany is normal beacuse he too was raised with the mentality that Rhaegar would've been raised with. Jon finding out Dany was his aunt would've had Jon looking right at Sam and just

#i liked her in early seasons of the shows run #but quickly i realized I was watching a charecter who would never see herself as in the wrong and her fans did the same thing #wheras Jon wears his flaws on his sleeve and is always fighting to better himself against a world telling him its fine to be a bad person #he is a good man with a strong moral compass and would see through her facade in zero seconds flat #he DOES HE CALLS HER OUT ON HER ENTITLED VIOLENT ATTITUDE BUT THE SHOW PRETENDS ITS A MEET CUTE #HE HATES HER #he and davos would turn their asses around and swim back to winterfell before hed ever even remotely like her as a person #this isnt a judgement for those who enjoy her as a charecter #but instead a critisism of those fans for having absoutelty no objectivity in talking about her flaws and morals as a person #jon fucking hates her and no amount of uwu look how pretty she is will ever fucking convince me otherwise #game of thrones #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #jon snow #anti jonerys #anti daenerys targaryen #anti targ stans #anti targaryen

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lilithfairen · 11 months

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How to accuse a work of "wish fulfillment" because it isn't about telling women they need to stay in the kitchen~

I'm going to delve deeper into this pathetic screed the loser head mod of /r/RWBYcritics wrote, because it's so very telling about the way RWBY "critics" view stories that don't blame women for everything~

Let's see, just off the top of my head in instances where characters in Team RWBY were depicted as "wrong" in any way:

Ruby overburdening herself as "the leader".

Weiss not understanding her brother is the result of the same upbringing she went through.

Blake being a member of an extremist group, then abandoning her friends after the fall of Beacon.

Yang's overreliance on letting loose with her Semblance.

Just a few examples, off the top of my head, because the protagonists of this show have a thing called "character development". It's this funny thing where, when a character of a story has flaws, they often work to address or grow out of these flaws. So it's not that RWBY has never depicted Team RWBY as being wrong, it's that RWBY doesn't always depict Team RWBY as being wrong that pisses off this loser.

So it's "wish fulfillment" to have a story where...characters suffer defeat and tragedy, but rather than wallowing in their loss and suffering, they rally themselves and return to the fray, determined to fight for those they love?

I can see that sort of thing being a form of "wish fulfillment" for people who've experienced trauma and depression, in that stories that tell such people that Things Get Better can be invaluable to them. All the more so when these stories feature characters that those people can identify more closely with, perhaps because of gender or sexuality. But I can see the idea of disparagingly referring to such as "wish fulfillment" for the sort of people who don't believe anyone but strong and confident white men can handle such a burden.

Was Ruby told that she was "perfect"? Nope, the specific word was "enough". Ruby felt like she couldn't live up to the burden of leading the fight against Salem, only to be reassured that it would be as much a burden on anyone else's shoulders. This is an interesting thing, because our angry white guy writing this conflates a story saying a woman isn't a complete loser responsible for everything bad that happens with claiming the story is declaring her to be "perfect".

Remember, kids: men are the only ones allowed to protect the ones they care about. Ruby tries to help her uncle fight off a psychotic assassin, unaware of the Semblance he never told her about? What a selfish fucking bitch amirite!

Ah yes, the selfish desire of "not standing around and letting the Grimm be lured to Argus". Why didn't she just fucking walk to Atlas, huh? Or send her friend back to her abusive father? What a selfish fucking bitch amirite!

This is 100% the sort of thing that comes out of the mouth of the kind of man who takes a woman out to an expensive restaurant on a first date, then screams abuse at her because she won't have sex with him afterwards. The attitude of "this man gives her things, how fucking dare this woman not unconditionally obey him in every fucking way".

Again: What a fucking selfish bitch Ruby was to try to help her uncle fight off a psychopathic murderer, huh?

"Why isn't this selfish bitch being punished for being a bitch?"

Yep, the wish fulfillment of "sometimes doing the right thing pays off". I can see how you'd resent this when you're a drooling stan of the authoritarian who decided to leave thousands of people to die at the drop of a hat, because he wanted to be The Hero and only he was allowed to be The Hero because he was a Manly Man Who Mans.

Get out the Anti-Strawman Spray, Batman!

Yep, because we saw that Ruby's plan ultimately did unite the people of Remnant in Vacuo, that means there was literally no panic whatsoever following the announcement! That's how logic works!

The "end point" was Ironwood's original plan before he threw it out the window, because there wasn't really anything wrong with Ironwood's original plan. Get the folks in Mantle to Atlas, evacuate with Atlas. That Ruby and her teammates were forced to work in secret, infiltrate Atlas command, and then seek medical attention for their critically-wounded friend as a result of Ironwood going Full Fascism is obviously all her fault. Bitch bitch bitch etc.

Man, I can think of nothing more despair-inducing than the idea that the Man in Charge doesn't have the one and only possible solution to any problem!

Hope is leaving thousands of people to fucking die, because the white man who wrote this does not identify or sympathize with anyone in Mantle.

Hope is the Man In Charge doing whatever he fucking wants and stupid bitches like Ruby falling in line and accepting their place.

Hope is adamantly clinging to a male authority figure, despite the glaring logical flaws with his plans and the glaring moral flaws he exhibits with every passing second.

But if it's a woman who keeps fighting for the right thing, she's a selfish bitch.

You notice how this screed somehow juggles between "Team RWBY are depicted as if they can do no wrong and always succeed in everything" and "Team RWBY ruins everything and makes everything worse for everyone"? It's a common tactic of fascists, actually; the enemy is both strong and weak at the same time. But why would the white man who idolizes a male military authoritarian and vilifies women, the poor, and minorities utilize fascist rhetorical devices?

The best part about "critics" like this is that RWBY is a story that introduced a plot device and exposited specific limitations to its power in the story, and none of these idiots can wrap their heads around a single part of that.

"When Salem does not do things the Staff has never been claimed to be able to do, that will just be wish fulfillment."

Well, anyway, here's me calling you stupid (and a drooling sexist pig) (and a racist fucko) (and a fascism stan)~

#rwby critics

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kitkatopinions · 10 months

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Sometimes, it feels like RT could literally have the team stab a random bystander to death while having a song playing in the background named "Murder Is So Fun," then have Ruby say one episode later that they've never killed anyone and are against murder, and the stans would be like "Yep, that is an objectively true statement and they've never done anything to contradict it."

I mean we've seen this in the insistence that Team RWBY managed to avoid any deaths in the Fall of Atlas, which is just completely untrue. We (and Team RWBY) saw tons and tons of soldiers die, we (and Team RWBY) have no idea whether or not Pietro, Maria, or Qrow are alive, and we (and Team RWBY) know that people died when Cinder attacked them on the bridge, including civilians and PENNY! And yet Yang, Weiss, and Blake are just like "we saved everyone" and that goes completely unacknowledged as being an objectively wrong untrue statement that makes them look like they're delusional. And fans of the show (specifically anti-rwders) are going "they saved everyone" and getting angry when anyone says otherwise.

Once again, what we're shown in the story ends up not mattering at all, because the characters can just announce 'this is what you're supposed to think.' It's unnatural, it makes the show frustrating and hard to track, it makes the writers impossible to trust, it completely breaks immersion, it makes the characters themselves feel like worse and harder to get behind, and what very little emotional depth the writers do bother to give anything gets completely undercut. Ruby suffers an obviously growing mental breakdown over the death of a friend, but her friends just say 'we saved everyone' and no one acknowledges how wildly untrue that statement is, and it makes the losses in V8 that the character of Ruby is trying to grapple with feel weak and unimportant because the writers are treating it as unimportant. Ruby suffers an obviously growing mental breakdown while trying to grapple with the losses of V8 including the death of a friend, and rants that she doesn't want to be the leader and doesn't want to be treated like she's perfect and feel like her friends don't care about her pain, then runs off and attempts to commit suicide while proclaiming that she doesn't want to be herself, and then next episode the characters are like ":) :) :) Ruby didn't really do that! :) :) She's just growing up! :) We just need to be supportive of this choice! :)" and the episode after that they're like "Ruby is our leader! :) :) :) She's never been confused or lost or felt weakness! :) :) She's never doubted herself or who she is! :) That's why we unquestioningly follow her as our perfect heroic leader! :) :)" And fans?? Eat it up??? And get angry when we're like "wow team wbyj learning nothing and completely ignoring Ruby's needs and disregarding her pain."

Because we're told 'this is what you're supposed to think,' so the rest of the stuff is supposed to be... Just filler, I guess. For a show with nine seasons, very little of it seems like it's actual supposed to matter to the viewer. Most of RWBY is either stuff that's given like no emotional weight or is dismissed later on while the writers try to convince us it essentially never happened.

#rwde #trigger warning; suicide mention #tw; suicide #tw; suicide mention

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saltwukong · 8 months

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I'll bite, how?

Both RWBY stans and RWDE consistently miscast and misrepresent the style and aesthetics of the characters they obsess over in almost identical ways. Ask me how.

RWBY stans want everything as qu**r as possible to prop up RWBY as a progressive show, and can therefore commonly be found painting Yang as some kind of butch lesbian dream with abs and muscles galore, despite the fact that Yang is about as butch as I am (hint: not at all).

RWDE types, on the other hand, want to misremember older RWBY as more inherently qu**r (I'm using that word to satisfy y'all, not me) so that they can decry what Rooster Teeth ruined and took from them, despite the fact that there's more than enough reasons to hate Rooster Teeth without making shit up. Couldn't find it again (not that I care about anyone who catches strays, y'all know me, I'll vibe check my best friends), but I've seen people refer to Ruby as butch and Blake as gnc. Not new Blake--old Blake, with the cleaver sword.

What part of this is gender-nonconforming to you? Is it the bow? The high heels? The thigh-high stockings? The exposed midriff? There is not a single member of RWBY who is butch or gender nonconforming. And you know why?

Cause that wasn't in vogue. That hadn't taken off yet. What was in vogue at the time was feminist fantasy. Girl power. Girly girls glittering and high heel-ing their way through battle. And that's why the members of Team RWBY look the way they do--feminine. Ruby's goth feminine. Yang's aggressively feminine. Weiss is princess feminine. Yang dresses for the male gaze, skirts are everywhere, and even Blake, an anti-establishment rebel who sleeps in tents, looks suitably dark feminine.

Here's the thing: that's not a bad thing. For what it was at the time, RWBY as the girl power fantasy that was every bit as actionized and violent as the male version tends to be was incredibly attractive as a concept. Hell, it still is.

Yang doesn't have abs, she never has, she never will, and that's okay. It doesn't take away from her. Her lack of abs isn't a problem on its own, it's not a flaw. There's no reason she should or shouldn't, they're not a required feature for someone at her tier of 'anime'. It becomes a problem when you consider the idea she won't ever have them because Miles personally wouldn't find it attractive, but that's still another story than what Yang actually was concepted as and made it into Poser as.

I once saw someone refer to Adam Taurus' (who definitely suffered under RT) original design as 'the most bisexual-looking character in the show' and gurl, that was a man in a suit, slacks, and loafers--calm down. It was far and away less lgbt-looking than the Grimmjow model he was actually sculpted from. Same energy as when I see kpop fans referring to a man's look as "cunty" and it's just a dude in a tank top.

Sometimes this happens with race, too. I see people claiming RT whitewashed the fuck out of Sun Wukong when the switch to Maya came, and then in the two screenshots provided he looks exactly the same.

RWBY as characters lost a lot when Rooster Teeth started changing their appearances, but qu**rness wasn't one of them, because the truth is that RWBY has just never been a very qu**r show. It was barely feminist in 2013, and even in its glory days, it was still pretty straight and cis and within cultural trends. It doesn't make sense to turn classic RWBY into something it wasn't just to exhaustively mourn what you were robbed of, especially when in truth quite a lot of these people weren't around then to get robbed in the first place.

#asks #Anonymous #rwde

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onewomancitadel · 10 months

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No seriously, those sorts of garbage 'headcanons'/fanon (Cinder is illiterate, Cinder is an eternal child who needs a different parent to tell her what to do, Cinder needs the Best Friend Club and not emotional/spiritual evolution) just reveals exactly what has currency in fandom and what doesn't. Cinder's canon character, values, beliefs, motivations, potential thematic statement offering to the story doesn't matter, just the ways in which she can be stuffed into cutesy, predetermined archetypes. That's accessible, that's what people ostensibly want, that's what is popular. And maybe I shouldn't get annoyed with it because ultimately it isn't about Cinder.

In some ways I find the fanon versions of Cinder (be they 'feral woman' or the femme fatale) as grossly offensive as the depiction of Jaune, if only because I know Tumblr fandom doesn't really care about him at all so I don't tend to see bad shit here as much as there used to be elsewhere. Usually he just gets relegated into some polyamory situation with Ren and Nora or stands to the side with Weiss or is still sad about Pyrrha or something. They're never really sure what to do with him and tend to not care.

Anyway like, I am now aware that I have made at least two enemies of big Cinder 'stan' blogs but as unpleasant and repellent as I find them, and I would never individually call them out, I still think writing about Cinder's actual canon character worth the time.

A separate post about the insistent arrested development that fandom at large is obsessed with was something I thought about writing once, but it's not worth it, I think. It is interesting that a very common power fantasy now is having surrogate parents and characters regressing to childhood and not becoming empowered through adulthood, though. It's basically the anti-myth.

#stirring the pot

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justkarama · 11 months

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@bubblinelovechild first credit to this blogger that got me thinking about Adam and @dragynkeep @uncaught-coolfish too

Second I wanna say that I don't like Adam at all I once got accused of being an Adam Stan ( seeker ) there are very few things I like about Adam very few his design semblance theme song and every fight he's been in my opinion is well choreographed that honestly about it

Third I find Adam poorly written not because I think Adam was supposed to be a badass anti hero no I find him poorly written because Adam is just terrible not the good terrible either the idea the abused becoming the abuser oppressed becomes the oppressor is good in concept but bad in execution

Adam in the context of the show is just a crazy psycho ex boyfriend who's abusive there's no actual character behind Adam

We're supposed to believe Adam is consumed by hatred and spite but why

Though One of the problems with Adam actually scratch that the main problem with Adam is that he lacks a backstory take cinder backstory in volume 8 later half Now, yes it's too little too late but cinder backstory is one of the more well written aspects of in v8

It explores cinder character it shows how while yes she's an abused victim she's an abuser she abuses emerald the same tactics her adopted mother and Salem uses on her she does the same thing to emerald

She continues the cycle of abuses her backstory is an open door on her character we get a look at Cinder on a more deeper level but we don't get that for Adam his lack of an actual backstory we get no character exploration on him we don't get that like with cinder

Another problem is the fanues racism storyline Adam is one out two biggest figures in this storyline and that's poorly written itself Adam is the biggest victim of fanues racism his brand on his face that goes nowhere

In v7 in dust mines nothing hints or implies Adam brand Blake just uncomfortable Weiss gives a half ass apology marrow is used to once again remind people hey we fanues have it bad the brand only exits for shock value it doesn't hold any actual weight because it isn't explored no other fanues has a brand like this

The easiest way to actually fanues racism is through Adam the biggest victim of racism we can explore through him how truly bad fanues have it can add depth to both the storyline and Adam character it can finally explain why Adam is the way he is we can finally more angles of Adam character

But instead we don't get that Adam the biggest victim of racism in is just sum crazy ex boyfriend why does he feel the way he does for Blake what is it about Blake that makes Adam go crazy it feels weird

There's also his lack of any real dynamic outside of Blake the reason why Adam is an antagonist for Yang is 🐝 that's it remove Yang relationship with Blake Adam and her have no dynamic no interconnected storyline

The dynamic he should have had is with Weiss till this day it is odd how Adam has no personal vendetta against Weiss it's her family company that literally branded him like property it's her company that's been an enemy to the white fang and has caused the fanues problems yet no interactions at all

Adam had to have known Weiss was Blake teammate I mean Weiss is a celebrity any team she gets on has to be public knowledge yet no acknowledgement on his part or hers

Weiss could have seen Adam Brand and realized how much damage her company has caused to the fanues but nope I don't even think Weiss knows he exists

Adam is so poorly written it's almost sad there's no complexity no newounce no depth no actual character Adam only serves as a means of bringing the bees together his dynamic with Blake isn't even that good

We don't see very much of their relationship Blake grew up privileged with no racism in her life Adam faced it literally the series doesn't do a good enough job about how being a faunes growing up in a world that hates you really affects their characters it's all just surface level

In conclusion Adam is a poorly written character he's good In concept but only really good in concept his execution as a character is bad his dynamics are bad he's never given an opportunity to properly have a good character storyline or backstory Adam isn't spite he's wasted potential because the writers didn't know how to properly write the white fang and the fanues racism storylines

#rwde #adam taurus

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thegayhimbo · 3 years

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What it’s like in the Game of Thrones Fandom on Reddit:

r/naath:

Game of Thrones is the greatest show that ever existed! It’s the Mona Lisa of Television. David Benioff and D.B. Weiss are underappreciated geniuses who knew exactly what they were doing when they adapted the books. Everything about the show was flawless, and anyone who disagrees is a stupid hater! Season 8 was a masterpiece in storytelling, and people just don’t understand the brilliance of it. Anyone who hates the ending are bunch of whiny snowflakes who expected a Disney ending! Daenery’s arc makes perfect sense! She was ALWAYS THE VILLAIN! Every single thing she ever did for her entire life was selfish and self-serving and secretly evil. People who like Daenerys also must like fascist dictators like Adolf Hitler or cult leaders like Jim Jones! Daenerys was WRONG for wanting to free the slaves! WRONG I SAY! The slavers in Astapor, Yunkai, and Meereen were much better people than Daenerys! She was always going to go mad because she didn’t stop her husband from killing her abusive brother when he threatened to cut out their unborn child on sacred ground. Daenerys killed way more people than the White Walkers ever did! DAENERYS WAS EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL! And by that logic, anyone who likes Daenerys or defends her actions must be evil as well! I’m genuinely scared that people who have issues with Game of Thrones at all might go shoot up a town! I’m going to take the moral position that anyone who has any criticism about Game of Thrones or Daenerys’s arc is either stupid or a terrible person!

r/freefolk:

Game of Thrones was the worst thing to ever happen in the history of TV shows! David Benioff and D.B. Weiss are bozos who had no fucking idea what they were doing! I HOPE THEIR CAREERS TANK! Everything they ever wrote was shit! They’re hacks who have no clue what good storytelling is, and were only piggybacking off of Geroge R.R. Martin! Even though I watched this for 9 years, I always knew the show was shit! There are no payoffs for anything! Why do people teleport across Westeros in the later seasons when Littlefinger and Varys were doing that since the beginning of the show? We wanted Jamie to have a redemption arc even though he raped his sister next to their son’s corpse! Sansa and Jon Snow are the reasons Daenerys went insane for no reason and burned a whole bunch of people! Oh wait, that was fucking stupid as well! There was no foreshadowing that Daenerys would go insane! Daenerys was ALWAYS a good person, and if she did anything bad, it was either because it was justified or other characters forced her hand! Sansa’s a braindead bimbo! Because season 8 was shit, that must mean EVERYTHING about the show was shit! How many plot-holes can I find because I’m so bitter and angry that I want to feel validated in my rage? THE SHOW FUCKING SUCKS!

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Ok, I know I’m being a little nasty here, but this is literally what it’s been like for 2-3 years now since I’ve been on Reddit. It’s sheer insanity at this point.

It’s shit like this that kills any interest in being a part of a fandom or enjoying a TV show. Some people need to grow up and realize their opinions are not the gospel truth, and that there is such a thing as complexities and a middle ground. 🙄

#tgh opinions #asoiaf #game of thrones #r/naath #r/freefolk #game of thrones fandom #asoiaf fandom #fandom wank #anti stan culture #reddit #anti reddit #david benioff #d.b. weiss

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heathcliffitsmecathy · 5 years

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Sometimes it makes me so sad to remember that Game of thrones gave flashbacks with Lyanna and Rhaegar, Lyanna dying giving birth, but we don't have any one with Elia. People was so enthusiastic in seeing young Ned and Lyanna I think that is way they feel more empathy with Lyanna. Elia is just a ghost, an inconvenience for Lyanna and Rhaegar's """"love story"""". I will never forgive Got for never give just a little flashback with Elia, even if she appeared fastly.

#elia martell #elia martell deserved better #anti d&d #anti game of thrones #anti rhaegar x lyanna #anti rhaegar targaryen #anti rhaegar stans #anti rhaegar #david benioff #dan weiss

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stilldanytrash · 5 years

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Join the DAEMEIJ Defense Squad.

In this squad, we defend

Daenerys

Arianne

Elia

Missandei

Ellaria

Because they fucked up her character.

Irri

Jhiqui

And every other woman they fucked over in Game of Thrones.

#game of thrones #daenerys targaryen #anti d&d #anti got #daenerys defense squad #missandei defense squad #arianne defense squad #elia defense squad #ellaria defense squad #irri and jhiqui defense squad #women of thrones defense squad #I'm sorry but because of many sansa stans this doesn't extend to sansa #jokes sorry not sorry #fuck d&d #fuck dan weiss and david benioff #this was meant to be nice but fuck #DAEMEIJ defense squad

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hermajestythebomb · 5 years

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Sooooooo...the leaks.

I understand that GoT's always has been a "anyone can die" show, a cruel world but also a world that kinda pays back.

Dany has been close to dying several times, several and she's lived through all of those times so for her to die the way the leaks say she will woul be shitty writing.

The perfect moment to "kill her" would have been season 5; when Ser Jorah returned and the gold masks attacked the stadium.

It would have been a good arc; this passive and peniless woman becomes strong and powerful, she goes in a quest to write right all the wrongs in the world, fighting slavery and having problems in the way but as she changes her role from conqueror/liberator to ruler she has to give in on the things that made her popular and she believes in.

She's surounded in the dragonpits, perhaps because she gave too much consetions like locking the dragons or too little and she closes her eyes; she's with her best friend.

I would have been upset, she's my favorite after all, but it would have been a good arc.

So, to villanize her after she gave everything to save north and their ungreatful fucking asses, after she lost a Dragon, her friend, the Dothraki (Her first culture, she is the last dothraki by these standards; wich is enraging) and almost her own life all while everyone kept talking shit behind her back and treating her like garbage... but noooooooo you guys.

Sansa, and northen independance and the mad queen...

Dany should have taken Kingslanding back in season 7, she should have ignored Tyrion, she shouldn't have help Jon Snow at all meeting him was the worst thing that ever happened to her, she should have burn down Winterfell too.

You know, Dany's narrative defied several expectations and tropes, she was the white haired witch atop of a dragon but she was the hero, she was the woman who had power and wasn't subserviant to a king but she was a hero, she had sexual partners but she was a hero; she was the White Witch, and Morgana and Maleficent but as a hero and a damn good one.

Well, may Kingslanding burn then, and Winterfell too.

I have loved this series and I have grown disliking it but I have never EVER hated an episode.

Oh...and Sansa and her stans may choke, I don't care anymore.

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jasontoddssuper · 5 months

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The 'I'm canonically a genius who's saved the world using my smarts tons of times but the mean white girl i get shipped with has called me stupid a lot so i get potrayed as a bumbling idiot because the fandom thinks mean white girls are the peak of intellect' support group

🚫Pro sh*p + Jkr media fans dni🚫

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hileywwe · 6 years

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Made a funny Jonerys video that y'all should check out 😂👏🏾

Got the idea from watching reylo_latino reylo inspired video so yeah...enjoy 😉.

#game of thrones #jonerys #jon x daenerys #jon snow #daenerys targaryen #jon snow stans #daenerys Targeryen stans #team house targeryen #Jeremy Podeswa #Ramin Djawadi #david benioff #dan weiss #got #anti jonsa #daenerys stormborn #george rr martin #grrm

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rainhadaenerys · 3 years

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There's one GRRM interview in which he mentions Dany that I've never seen being discussed, but that I think is very interesting. GRRM was asked about who would be a leader nowadays, and at first he answers Tyrion, but then he says that Dany would also be an interesting choice for a leader (see video here, around 31:20):

Interviewer: Which of your characters would you say is the most suitable to be a leader nowadays and why?

GRRM: Which of my characters would be a leader in this day and age? Well, you know, probably Tyrion… Tyrion is very smart, he is also very ruthless sadly which you need. I don't necessarily think he would be a beloved leader, but you know, he has the intellectual ability to do it, he has a certain understanding of politics, and he has a lot of experience in the dark side of humanity, so he wouldn't be too naive for the job. He might be a good choice.

Interviewer: I agree, very good.

GRRM: Dany would also be an interesting choice if we could bring her dragons along. The recent American election might have turned out very different if Hillary Clinton had dragons.

Now, I know that Dany antis would interpret this as GRRM saying that Dany is nothing without her dragons and that she could never be a leader without the dragons. But I definitely don't think that this is what he meant here. First, because GRRM has written three books so far in which Dany has been a leader, conquered cities and ruled a city without using dragons, so I think he is aware of the story he wrote, and of what kind of character Dany is (she is much more than her dragons). But also, because of the context in which he mentions her dragons: he is comparing Dany's situations to Hillary Clinton losing the election to Trump, and this had a lot to do with sexism. So it seems to me he is saying that Dany would be an interesting choice of leader nowadays, but that just like Hillary, she would face sexism, and that if she had the dragons they could help with that.

But what I actually like the most in this interview is that GRRM mentions Dany alongside Tyrion. It's no secret that Tyrion is GRRM's favorite character and that he is considered a good ruler, and that GRRM considers him a good ruler. But right after GRRM mentions Tyrion, he also remembers Dany as a character who would be suitable to be a leader nowadays. Of all the characters that are leaders in the books, of all his characters that he could have chosen to mention alongside Tyrion, he chose to mention Dany. So to me, it does seem that GRRM considers Dany a good leader on par with Tyrion.

Another interesting thing about this interview is related to the wank in the fandom. As everyone probably knows, Dany antis love to compare her to the worst politicians, Trump amongst them. And there was even a Sansa stan that wrote a book saying that Dany was like Trump. So it's interesting that here, GRRM actually compares Dany to Hillary AGAINST Trump. And in fact, GRRM has already said in another interview which of his characters that he considers to be similar to Trump, and it's not Dany:

Interviewer: Who reminds you most of Trump? Dan Weiss [one of the “Game of Thrones” creators and writers] told me that the character that reminded him the most of Trump is Hodor because he endlessly repeats his own name.

Martin: Well, that’s amusing. But I think even during the campaign I said that Trump reminded me most of Joffrey. They have the same level of emotional maturity. And Joffrey likes to remind everyone that he’s king. And he thinks that gives him the ability to do anything. And we’re not an absolute monarchy, like Westeros is. We’re a constitutional republic. And yet, Trump doesn’t seem to know what that means. He thinks the presidency gives him the power to do anything. And so, yeah, Joffrey is Trump.

#daenerys targaryen #grrm #my meta

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Have you read Ironside by GodHand96? Do you have the patience to write a review?

I have read nine chapters of Ironside.

...And that was about four more chapters than I should have given.

It's basically a retelling of Volume 7 so far that, as the author puts it, is supposed to make Ironwood out to be smarter and Winter more proactive.

... In reality, it's one long dick slurping. I'd say it's Ironwood's dick that's getting the fellatio but-

"It's just... so good to see them all again!" Ironwood said, the smile crossing his face was uncontrollable. "I was so glad to see Qrow, I actually hugged him!" he beamed there, "I couldn't see myself doing that before, and Penny looked like she was having the time of her life with her friends back! The ace-ops also apologised to Ruby's group with them working together, our forces will be next to unstoppable! Also with you Schnee, ready to fulfil your role as the Winter Maiden, we finally have a chance of beating Salem! and we have Oz back!"

Does THIS sound like Ironwood?

No, it doesn't. He sounds pure. Innocent, blameless. Without fault.

That is not who James Ironwood is. James Ironwood is a flawed man, a man who wants to do good but finds compromise to be a burden and, unable to overcome his flaws, falls into villainy as a tragic but honest depiction of how good people become bad.

Tl;Dr- HE IS NOT BEACON-RUBY ROSE.

Then again, maybe James is still around. There is this character that talks of trust while using underhanded methods to expose people, someone who talks of taking a hit for their reputation for sake of doing what is right. Granted, it comes across less as someone living their life by a 'greater good' philosophy and more like them getting slurped too because there's no awareness to this even as they joke about manipulating others while professing 'Tell the truth' but hey it's at least better than Not-Ironwood-

It's Winter. The author transplanted a WORSE version of James into her and ignores anything that isn't positive to Steelstone.

And of course, the heroes are all portrayed as being whiny, entitled, annoying brats who have no grounds in correcting Lord Steelstone on such trivial things like 'public relations' or 'serving the people you preach to protect' or 'the fucking theme of the show'. The only ones who don't get this treatment are Oscar (mouthpiece for the author), Qrow (rip off of his Volume 7 and 8 character so no credit), Weiss and Ren. ... BTW, did I forget to mention that these characters are treated as siding with Ironwood and the more staunchly anti-Ironwood characters (Yang because fuck you the author didn't watch Volume 7, Blake, Nora and Robyn) are all portrayed as far worse with no real reasoning beyond 'fuck you, I don't like them.'

It's all just so self in-fucking-dulgent. You could not find better examples of Ron The Death Eater outside parody. The original show had the characters split because of their personal experiences creating slightly different variations of the same ideology, crating natural conflict as they naturally repeat the same mistakes their predecessors did. The clash between Team RWBY and Ironwood was one of differing, uncompromising beliefs rooted in the themes of the show.

The difference here is caused by the author emptying everyone out and turning them into meat puppets.

And no I don't care that they've 'admitted' to these issues or say they'll justify them later- This SHOULD HAVE NEVER happened. This stuff is inexcusable. And the refusal to fix these mistakes by justifying them as 'well, at least I'm not gonna kill the characters I hate' is childish. Right up to the fact that the writers DIDN'T HATE IRONWOOD.

This is the delusion that RWBY stans have of Ironwood fans: deifying Ironwood while demonizing team RWBY with no nuance, just blind obedience or else. Just now, it's real.

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I'm sorry, but do you hate the sansa of books too?

Sorry for the late reply, but I get asked this so many times lol. I am pretty sure I have already answered this as well and it’s somewhere on my blog.

But honest question, are there any blogs out there who actually like the Sansa of the books? I haven’t seen any. The people who claim to love book Sansa stan for a hyped up, sanitized, white washed version whose only flaw, as per their interpretation, is that she’s just a little naive. But also she’s super intelligent and smartest character in the series. And all this without any text to back up this strange dichotomy - naive and super intelligent at the same time!

Any discussion of actual book Sansa is labelled as ‘Sansa hate’ and hordes descend on such posts demanding that it be tagged ‘anti-Sansa’. So people who like Sansa think that the Sansa of the books is anti-Sansa!

Others bloggers have done a better job than me of explaining fandom’s perception of Sansa versus the actual book version. This post for example:

https://aiyassalt.tumblr.com/post/188322664000/honestly-i-greatly-dislike-sansa-both-her-book

https://aiyassalt.tumblr.com/post/188450445310/star-crossedvoyager-aiyassalt-honestly-i

One only has to look at number one Sansa stans David Benioff and Dan Weiss to understand how for most of her fans, they can only genuinely like the character and enjoy her when she is given the character traits and plots of other characters. Weiss and Benioff constantly claim Sansa is their favorite character and yet they are busy stripping Jon, Arya, Bran, Dany and other characters of their book characterization for Show Sansa.

Shit like this:

"She's like the warrior of Winterfell" - Sophie Turner on Sansa wearing armour for the first time in Game of Thrones season 8

Arya has needle? Well, Sansa will also get one!

Clapton’s view on creating Sansa’s new style is that it’s centered around using found materials since Sansa sews her own dresses. Sansa’s spiked necklace is a reference to Arya’s Needle- this is Sansa’s Needle, the designer has explained.

Teaching grizzled warrior Yohn Royce about the importance of castles as a first line of defence - She’s the warrior of Winterfell! She knows more about how much rest the soldiers required than Daenerys Targaryen who commanded armies for like 7 seasons!

And when she was walking around saying that they need food so ask everyone to bring grain to Winterfell and the two blokes walking behind her just look at each other like she said the most cleverest thing ever and omg they should have made her queen instead of Jon! Meanwhile book Jon Snow is breaking his head over how to get food for like 5 chapters and has still not solved the issue in the last book.

And a lot of book Sansa fans don’t have an issue with all this - they think the smartest character in the whole of Westeros will just be better written in the books - meanwhile book Jon is stupid, Arya is just a revenge obsessed killer and Dany is headed for a dark ending because she’s ignorant and impulsive. Their version of book Sansa is more diplomatic and intelligent than Jon and Dany - characters who are actually written going through grueling leadership arcs.

I was indifferent to book Sansa. She bored me. She was a spoiled, selfish brat in book one and a political pawn and prisoner in later books. I did sympathize with her situation and appreciated that at least now she was slowly starting to realize that appearances are only skin deep and trying to help whenever she could. I used to skip her chapters on re-reads because Tyrion’s POV was more informative and kept me entertained about the KL plots. But there were all these ‘Pawn to Player’ threads and Sansa BNFs on Westeros.org discussing book Sansa becoming so smart, that I would go back and read her chapters. And nothing.

And her fans overhyping the character and inserting her into other plots is what is making me dislike even her book version now. Jon’s story is wholly unconnected to her in the books, and yet the Jon Snow tag is full of Sansa. That incorrect-Stark or whatever blog is going to be my supervillain origin story.

One of the reasons for why I am desperate for the next book, is so that we can go back to discussing Jon Snow on the Jon Snow tag instead of it getting clogged by Sansa stans with pro-Sansa and anti-Dany stuff. The Jon Snow tag is not for ship wars and for Sansa stans to hate on Dany. Please George write the damn book. 🙏. We are desperate here.

I don’t want to talk or write about Sansa. It’s the last thing I want to do. But the show inserting Sansa into Jon’s plot because Benioff and Weiss was bored of book Sansa’s actual plot and wanted their favorite character to be more important and become a warrior and defense expert and Queen and all that means that Jon Snow fans are now stuck with the character’s toxic stans.

I can empathize with Arya fans now. For a long time they had to deal with Sansa stans because in the books, its Arya and Sansa who have a contentious relationship and Sansa stans were always taking away from Arya and blaming Arya and Sansa BNFs were writing negatively about Arya.

But the show has changed that and the only reason I even started writing about Sansa was because of season 6 when Jonsa stans invaded the Jon Snow tag like cockroaches that can never be got rid off.

So yeah, that’s my rant over. I just want The Winds of Winter. I want to read about what happens to Jon at the wall, the Night’s watch and the Wildlings, Theon and Jeyne Poole, Stannis and the battle of Ice, The Boltons, a bad-ass direwolves vs Ramsay’s hounds battle, Rickon and Davos, Northern houses plotting and conspiracy and playing the game, is Mance alive? what’s the deal with the Pink letter, Melisandre and Ghost and Jon and Arya somehow reuniting. I want to stop freaking talking about Sansa - a character I really don’t give a damn about.

When TWoW comes out, hopefully Sansa fans go back to discussing lemon cakes and feasts and tourneys and the most realistic (though strangely flawless) and best character in asoiaf. I, on the other hand, am just a simple fantasy fan here for the swords and magic, direwolves and dragons, ice zombies and 3ERs - and hopefully TWoW will be written one day and will be chock full of material to keep me happy!

Hope that answers your question? 😁

#asks

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