I was reading, once again, this wonderful post by @aurorabyler and this part particularly struck to me:

And I wholeheartedly agree.

Can I say how much people disregard the actions of Mike towards El or don't think too much of it? Same with El.

Mike going through ST4EP3 is paralleling Nancy's incapability of saying "I love you" to Steve after she called their relationship "bullshit" while drunk (even though Nancy already said that she loved Steve, to his face).

Why is it that people took it seriously when Nancy was unable to say those words when Steve demanded them but when Mike doesn't say such words after El confronted him about it, most of the audience's response is "He's just a teenager", "They're too young", "He doesn't know what love is" or "He doesn't have to say that he loves her to demonstrate he cares about her" while simultaneously saying "Say you love her!", "My man, you can't say those words?!"

How come Steve and Nancy were teenagers but people still took it seriously when they had their "I love you" situation but somehow the same doesn't apply for Mike and El?

How come people were expecting someone who can't even write "Love, Mike" in a letter to his girlfriend or mention the word "love" to his best friend to say "I love you", even after he was confronted by said girlfriend and just said that he cared a lot about her?

A character saying "I care about you" to someone else is THE MOST PLATONIC thing ever and it basically means that person is automatically being friendzoned.

We all know that.

But when Mike says it, it's nothing serious?

When El wrote "From El" in the letter Mike received in ST4EP5, most audience's response was "It just means she's being petty", "Aww she wrote him a letter" or it just caused some laughs.

They downplay every action Mike and El take towards each other and honestly? I'm not even surprised cause most people suppose Mike and El will never have a big issue or something that can break them as a romantic couple because they've been "love interests" throughout the show (as if movies and TV Shows have never broken up long-term relationships ever before).

Why is it that back in ST2, when Steve and Nancy had that fight, everyone automatically thought of Jonathan, who seemed to show romantic interest in Nancy but somehow nobody thought of Will (who was shown pining after Mike) when Mike couldn't say "I love you" to El?

The Very Curious Consistency of Elmax Wearing Yellow and Blue on their Wrists

I first noticed it in S3. El wears the blue hair tie that used to belong to Sara Hopper as a bracelet. Max wears a yellow watch. These respective accessories stay consistent despite their many outfits:

But that only started in S3, right?

OH, WAIT

(She took off the watch for the dance, but the cuff of her sleeve is still yellow!)

But it ended after S3, right?

OH, WAIT

Curious.......very, very curious........

long post underneath!

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bro fr got paralleled with not only his (soon-to-be-ex) girlfriend's adoptive mother (and father), he got paralleled with her biological mother as well lmao

(becky about) terry about el:

mike about el:

The way that they had originally wrote Steve and Robin to be together and the way that Nancy and Jonathan got set up, and both of their dynamics, is literally the exact same way that Robin and Nancy did, hear me out on this

Steve was the ex-high school king. Robin was a nobody. They at first both thought very differently of eachother until they got put together fighting Russians who were messing with the upside down and became super close. Steve dealing with getting over Nancy, instead getting feelings for Robin.

Nancy paired up with Jonathan despite them never having really talked much before to figure out what upside down shit was happening. Nancy was annoyed with him (as was he with Nancy because he thought she was cliché) Nancy was still with Steve but struggling because of everything that happened with Barb, and falling for Jonathan through it all.

Now we see Robin and Nancy pair up to figure out more upside down shit. Both previously having assumptions of eachother. Robin called Nancy a priss in season 3 and Nancy thought Robin was odd. Quickly, as what happened (with original intention of romance) Steve and Robin and Nancy and Jonathan. Also Nancy having problems with Jonathan, and Robin being the only one she’s opened up about it to.

Not to mention Robin is litterally the good things about Steve and Jonathan combined plus her own awesomeness. Maya and Natalia have said they bring a new perspective to eachothers life, as was the main idea of Jonathan and Nancy, and that they have a lot to learn from eachother. Natalia has also said that she thinks Robin is who Nancy has the most to gain from, and that she loves the idea of Nancy having a girlfriend.

Also, the only other “friendship” we’ve seen highlighted so much is byler. And as we know it’s atleast unrequited.

From fighting against upside down related stuff together, one having a love interest, the other helping the other through it, opening up to each other about stuff they haven’t before, getting to know each other, like really know each other, beyond their high school impressions.

So why set Robin and Nancy up like two originally planned romantic dynamics, even under the label friendship only closest being compared to byler, which isn’t even completely platonic…

guYS-

Lock Him Up And Throw Away The Key

There's something to be said for the wording (words in the words show as usual):

Virginia: Promise me you'll lock him up and throw away the key. Brenner: Understood. Virginia: The Principal’s girl, Patricia Newby.

Patty is equated, here, to the key that could free “Henry” from being locked up. She's literally thrown away in the scene with Brenner, and she was the last thing keeping Henry from falling to the Shadow. She was quite literally a key/the thing keeping him free.

This kind of wording often comes up in relation to the supernatural plot (and I'm sure there are more I can't remember off the top of my head). Joyce loses her keys in ST1 when Will goes missing. Mike speculates that closing the gate would kill Will in ST2, implying that Will is the key that needs to be thrown away in order for the gate to close/the Mindflayer to be locked up. Will is equated to keys. The Russian machine is the "Key", and it holds a gate open, and it takes two keys to close it/lock it. Joyce turns both those keys, equating her specifically to keys. Vecna needed someone (El) to “open the door”, equating El to the Russian “Key”. El is also heavily paralleled to Patty, and they have a number of duplicate lines between the two of them (I have a post drafted about that, it's in the works). El is, then, a key. Scott Clarke, in the pitch, is described as the key to solving the mystery of Montauk, and Alexei, one of the designers of the Russian "Key" is described as a "Russian Scott Clarke". Scott also has the key to the AV room in ST1, which he gives to Mike...which ends in El contacting Will in the void.

Something shrimpresting to me is that the key thing seems to come in sets of three. Two keys, two man rule, two man crew, sure. However. There’s always a secret third guy.

In TFS, Patty's accident took three despite the wings requiring a two-man crew. It took "Henry" unlocking one side, Brenner unlocking the other…and Virginia selling Patty out at all. Patty wouldn’t have had an accident if it wasn’t for Virginia. Virginia’s the secret third guy here.

It took three to close the gate in season 2: Mike in the tunnels, El at the gate, and Joyce to take Will out of the equation as that key. El and Will are the two focal points/the two "keys". Mike, despite the fact that he's not supposed to be there, is integral. He's the secret third guy.

In season 3, Murray, Hop, and Joyce argue about whether the Key is a two or three person job. It ends up requiring all three of them, despite there only being two keys. At above-ground Stargate, it took Mike's planning, El's powers, and Joyce's keys to take down the fleshflayer. Joyce wasn’t meant to be there, but she was integral to completing the mission. Joyce is the secret third guy this time.

In season 4, it took three to knock Vecna down, even if they weren't totally successful: El in the Mind Lair, Nancy in the UD, and Murray with the blowtorch in Russia. El was the late addition, she's the secret third guy. ST4 failed because Nancy's plan was rushed/full of pitfalls, and El's mental/emotional strength wasn't bolstered during the piggyback. Dustin makes specific references to needing both Mike irt the UD and Will irt the Mind Lair, and he was right. Mike's the planner/strategizer; They needed him in Hawkins. Mike would have been in Hawkins, were it not for the vacation. Will has the connection to One/the Mindflayer; it should have been him there with El, rather than Mike (hell, Will is the one who drove the monologue. There's a reason why Hopper said "Getting to Mike, that's the key" irt making mileven break up...). It failed because the keys were in the wrong places.

Will and El are said to be main characters next season…our two keys. Will is a key multiple times on a mental basis, and El is a key in relation to powers...Which means there's and integral secret third guy. And the guy? That’s Mike, baby!

This becomes interesting when we consider Will’s on-film Henry parallels, El’s Patty parallels, Mike’s Scott parallels…plus the boy "Henry" attacked in Nevada and the little black haired boy who sits next to Henry in the “Henry is 7” birthday video. Secret third guy.

It also becomes interesting when we consider this weird “three outcomes, two timelines” deal. Secret third guy.

All this to say...A Henry, Patty, Scott trio as compared to the Will, El, Mike trio irt Edward/Vecna. Come home to me <3

(Also, an aside: In the video, even Brenner sounds taken aback by Virginia's lack of care towards "Henry". He interrupts her to reassure her they'll take good care of him, and she comes in with the "I don't care about that, just make sure I never have to see him again" steel chair. Goddamn.)

Some ST3 Opinions & Thoughts On ST3’s Use of Foreshadowing

Something that I really liked about S3 was the absence of Brenner & how the lab overall is less present, but those lab-created horrors are even more grotesque and in-your-face and present, alongside the lab foreshadowing/parallels (such as what I talked about here regarding the S3 hospital vs 1979 lab parallels).

Like, I don’t mean this in a “Brenner is BAD and i HATE HIM so im GLAD he wasnt in S3 way,” i mean it in a “even when Brenner is nowhere to be found, even when the lab is ‘shut down’ and dormant, the impacts of what the lab has done continue to ramp up,” way.

IMO, the absence of the lab and of Brenner (and therefore the absence of a single person/entity to easily pin the blame onto) does a great job at demonstrating the way that unethical science becomes a monster of its own & how even shutting down the lab & keeping Brenner at bay wasn’t enough to stop everything that’s happening.

I think it’s a great way to emphasize the way that the consequences of the lab’s experiments continue to echo and continue to impact people.

And jumping back to what I talked about in the beginning regarding the ST3 vs ST4 parallels and foreshadowing, I actually think that it’s partially that use of foreshadowing that makes it feel different/“”””out of place”””” compared to other seasons (although i do think that ST3 often being a contrast to prior seasons is exactly why it fits in place because S1 and S2’s vibes wouldnt be as noticeable/memorable if Every Season Was Like That & ST3 gives something to contrast ST1 and ST2 with), and the reason why I think that use of foreshadowing makes it feel different is because while EVERY season of ST has tons of foreshadowing, ST2 also has tons of direct connections to ST1 (even connections as subtle as spending a lot of shots in the Byers house, specifically in that hallway which was key to Will’s vanishing in S1), whereas while ST3 ABSOLUTELY has connections to previous seasons, we’re now moving into new locations etc etc, so those connections arent as constant as they were in S2. And so, as a result, the season becomes more future and foreshadowing-focused, but we dont recognize that when we watch S3 initially/for the first tike because we havent seen S4 yet.

Like, it’s very easy now to go back and see the absolutely insane number of highly specific parallels to S4 that exist in S3, but without the context of S4, a lot of those S3 scenes almost feel “useless”/emptier than they should.

And ST3 has so much time imagery and specifically “future” references that really just hammer home ST3’s use of foreshadowing/its focus on foreshadowing.

So, my main point here is that I think that while its totally fair to have a favourite season/prefer diff vibes/this isnt a criticism of that, I also think that approaching every single season of ST as if they’re entirely self-contained is where criticism of ST (and specifically S3) tends to be less effective- because S3 really is much, much better with the context of S4, like with the context of S4, S3 is absolutely rich with intricate foreshadowing (you can even foreshadow very specific things and names things from the S4 newspapers back in S3, such as what I talked about in this post), but that context and those intricacies are lost when you isolate every season and try to look at each season as a standalone story.

The Creel foreshadowing alone in S3 is absolutely constant- Heather Holloway is literally IN the Creel tub when she’s in the void!! But you’d have no way of knowing that on your first S3 watch through/without the context of S4.

I actually think it’s really neat that ST3, on the surface, is a very flashy and “obvious” and seemingly “surface level,” season, but then, when you dig deeper with the context of S4, it’s actually a season with an absolute ton of depth and foreshadowing and intricate connections.

Stranger Things 5 Theory/Prediction: The Importance of Max’s Letters.

So, i’ve been thinking a lot about season 5 over the last couple months, and how i think a lot of things left unexplored in s4 will come into play in the final season. Originally, when i made my ST4 bingo card before volume 2 dropped, i thought Max would end up in a coma (bingo!) and that her letters would be read aloud at the end of the season, much like Hopper’s at the end of ST3. Obviously that was wrong, but i still can’t help but feel like the Duffers would not have Max write letters that are clearly holding weight within her relationships and her life, and have it go nowhere. So, i’ve come to the conclusion that Max’s letters will play one of 2 purposes next season. I’ll be using clips from Avengers: Endgame, so if you haven’t seen that and want to avoid spoilers, here’s your warning. If you want to come back after watching, i’ll see you then. Here we go!

Theory 1:

I for one think that Max’s letter will be the post time jump motivation for the other’s returning to Hawkins. I think after they fail in the beginning of ST5, they’ll decide it’s hopeless and will let Vecna do his thing. More likely, they’ll think Vecna might be too weak to do anything and ignore Will’s tingle. Imagine Lucas or El, years later finding Max’s letter and deciding that they can’t just leave her there. Max loves them. She deserves to be fought for. Hawkins might not, but her and the rest of the world do. Think of the scene in Avengers: Endgame. Tony refuses to make the time machine until seeing a picture of Peter and realizing he’s worth saving. He’s worth the risk. (“I accept the risk” - Max, ST2)

Link to Endgame scene:

Alternatively, i think El could just not be strong enough, and she’ll have to go train w/ Owens. This leaves the characters going their separate ways until El is strong enough. I think El brings her letter from Max with her to Nina 2.0, and is motivated to carry on every day because of it. At some point she’ll be strong enough and ready to fight. Imagine some dialogue from El (or maybe even Lucas) when Max is revived to some degree, and El parallels Mike in ST2 (I called you everyday…), telling Max that she never read her letter, because she knew she wasn’t gone. This would be so sweet #elmaxrights. Max’s letters can’t be for nothing. Now i bring you to the less fluffy alternative.

Theory 2:

Since i believe the letters must have value, but i know the Duffers don’t believe in fan service and the executives at Netflix cried over the ending pitch, i feel the need to acknowledge the very real possibility that Max may die in the end. I’ve said before that Max is the only character (in addition to Hopper) that i believe is safe from death. This is mainly because she’s died before and it would be repetitive. But, seeing as she’s the only character who has written a letter (that we know of. Looking at you Mike.) and in that letter she addresses her death, i think it’s possible her letter will be read aloud by Sadie over the final moments of the show. This would be similar to the end of ST3, but more-so like the end of Avengers: Endgame. In the end, Tony dies saving Peter and the other half of the universe, but not without the last word. He has preemptively left a goodbye message in the event of his death. It is played over shots of various characters happy after the war, and people celebrating victory. His letter also addresses “not being alone”, something that Max’s Dear Billy letter also does. I will also say that in a true parallel, El would be the one to die saving Max (Would parallel the end of ST1, and Tony’s sacrifice.) However, I don’t think El would write a letter. I could be wrong though. The only other character i can see this going down with would be Mike. He is a writer after all. He could (in the context of flickergate, and him going in the UD to save Will) write a letter admitting how he feels and addressing that if he dies he had the time of his life fighting dragons with you (😉) (you being Will + the party?). This wouldn’t be revealed til the end of the season, giving the Duffers, Netflix, and the homophobic GA/Milevens an out to a byler kiss or full on acknowledgement of it the rest of the season. This is my least favorite outcome. I hope you guys find this as interesting (and tragic, a word used to describe the end) as i do. Here’s to more theories over the next 2ish years! Happy New Year!

Link to the end of Endgame:

Parallels Between Mike and El in ST4 & Jonathan and Will in ST2

You remember the first day that we met? It was the first day of kindergarten. I had nobody. I had no friends. And I felt- so alone, and so scared- and I saw you on the swings, and you were alone too. Just swinging by yourself. So I walked up to you- and I asked. I asked if you wanted to be my friend. You said yes. You said yes. It was the best thing I've ever done.

I feel like my life started that day we found you in the woods, you were wearing that yellow Benny's burgers t-shirt that was so big it almost swallowed you whole. I knew, right then and there, that I loved you. And I've loved you every day since.

WOOF. I know we've basically run through all possible analysis' for mike's st4 monologue but I'm gonna do this anyway cause I feel that we as a society don't talk about his st2 monologue NEARLY enough.

Clearly CLEARLY the scenes parallel each other. I want to talk about how they contrast.

The music. The music MADE the st4 monologue and we all know it, it would not have held up on its own and even with it it still managed to fall flat. The st2 monologue has no music, none at all. It's a speech after 2 other speeches. Complete silence the ENTIRE TIME. And it doesn't fall flat, its the climax for the scene. It's the reason Will breaks through the mindflayers hold and tells the party what to do and THEY WIN. The st4 monologue falls flat BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO LOSE. It doesn't help El break out of anything, in fact, the vines actually TIGHTEN around her. She does that herself. Max's vines loosened enough for her to break out when she thought about all the people who she loves.

So WHY wouldn't this speech work for El? She doesn't believe him. She already wanted to break up. She was done. A love confession from her boyfriend of 2 years after literally fighting about how he can't say I love you AND SHE DOESNT BELIEVE IT. And she SHOULDNT. Because all that flowery crap was just so she would keep fucking fighting. He didn't want her to literally die so he finally said I love you, hurrah. Not to mention her brother had to TELL HIM TO DO IT.

The st2 monologue had mike and will looking into each other's eyes the entire time (seeing eye to eye), with El, he can only confess his love if she's literally not in the room, or she's not looking at him. BOTH in the heat of the moment under extreme pressure.

The descriptors, for st2 mike laid out this perfect picture of how he was feeling that day, and where will was and what he did and how will responded to to him. In st4 he talked about her shirt. And then said that he loved her that day. It's simply not true and they both know it.

In conclusion, the st4 monologue is not a win for mike/el cause it's a literal loss. For everyone. El is still not talking to Mike after, and Mike was just saying shit he thought would work. (Hence the similar structure to the speech to will where it actually did work)

I feel like, and this is a BIG ASS IF, IF Eddie was supposed to be killed off for good, for whatever the reason (we can say covid probably messed up a lot of ideas and plans, maybe even got the team forgotten what was written or whatever), Joseph's press stuff would've been done basically. Like it kinda was at first after volume 2 came out. But the Suffer Bros saw how badly they messed up, they're planning on bringing Eddie back now because of fan fallout. And why Joseph's been on mega press tour while the rest of the cast just be chillin lol.

Which, as happy as I will be if Eddie lives, I'm not sure if I'd want Kas Eddie now, because I feel like Suffers would be doing it to 'please' the fans and mess it up. I'd rather fanfic Kas Eddie because we know how it should be done lol, where they'd just be slapping a bandaid on a wound and go SEE WE FIX YOU CAN'T BE MAD AT US ANYMORE! lol. I hope I make sense and am not rambling 😭

I'm not so sure if Eddie returns that the Duffers didn't plan this all along. I mean, I want him back and I don't care if they spontaneously bring him back because of the fan reaction he got or if they planned to bring him back but there is just too much foreshadowing in the season. The Will/Eddie parallels (the Missing poster vs. the newspaper article, both scribbled with sharpie; Wayne Munson wearing the same jacket as Jonathan while he was putting up Eddie's Missing poster; the song When It's Cold I'd Like To Die playing during Will's "death" in ST1 & playing during Eddie's in ST4), the whole Iron Maiden reference in the this-is-music-scene and the huge amount of Kas symbolsim attached to Eddie (the vampire skull ring, the spiked shield), as well as the tattoos (some of them might not simply be foreshadowing for ST4 but for ST5 as well). Yes, it could all be seen as coincidental, a few neat references...but it's weird that there are so many? And we know that the Duffers love their foreshadowing and symbolism. So I actually think if/when they bring Eddie back, it was planned all along.

Either way: they left the door open three inches to bring Eddie back.

I keep saying it and I'll say it again: my worst fear is that they bring Eddie back as anything else than his old, sweet, gentle, lovely self because that would feel like seeing him die all over again and I'm not sure how I should ever recover from that tbh. But in my eyes, the whole Kas theory would only make sense if they used it to an extent: Vecna brings back Eddie like El did for Max, and flays him because he needs someone to do his dirty work. And it's about saving Eddie - a beautiful storyline for Dustin, btw. They did something similar with Will in ST2 (and that's where the Will/Eddie parallels come in to play, in my opinion.)

So even if the Duffers were bringing Eddie back only because of the fandom, they still, intentionally or not, built the ground to do it well. There is too much foreshadowing to bring him back in a bad way, in my opinion. The wave is there, they only need to surf it. Eddie's return is basically writing itself - in a beautiful, meaningful way.

Because as tragic as his death was, he saved Dustin. It wasn't pointless. The writing in itself, leading up to the situation, wasn't good in my opinion but from Eddie's POV everything made perfect sense, and without Eddie, Dustin would have fallen prey to the bats as well. How beautiful would it be, for Dustin to be the reason that Eddie The Banished manages to banish Vecna out of his mind and return - as himself - when he was the one to tell Dustin "Never change". That would be closing the loop and the Duffers love this whole closing-the-loop thing.

(tbh, after the way his story ended, bringing him back as anything else but himself wouldn't make sense, story-telling wise. It would be cruel for Eddie and for us.)

So, yes, there was a moment I lost my trust in the Duffers, but I found it again. And - that's just my opinion - apart from the final episode, ST4 was the best season of Starnger Things ever (not simply because of Eddie but because of the writing).

I hope this made sense, but I firmly believe if/when Eddie comes back, it will be good, not a slapping-a-band-aid-on-a-wound🖤

Vecna is a Dark Wizard (quote: ST4 ep2), Will is a Spy on the dark side but also FOR the dark side (s2) and he’s also a Wizard who “saved everyone” (ST2 ep8) and El is unsure whether she is a good guy or a bad guy (ST4 ep3). Gotta love Wonder Twin parallels and Will/Vecna foil narratives. This show is so great and also Will is gonna be the hero of s5 with El by his side

okay so there was this recurring thing in st4 of max being a "ghost" - present, but incapable of really being communicated with.

...was this foreshadowing for the end of the season?

at the end of st4 max temporarily "died" and is now in a state where she's present but incapable of really being communicated with... as she's alive but in a coma...

i have to say this is really interesting, considering how "ghost" was used to describe her behavior/state following a previous event (billy's death) while also foreshadowing her future behavior/state (in a limbo between life and death after vecna tried to kill her, leaving her near-completely unreachable by the living).

i had already instantly paralleled early st4 "ghost" max to early st2 "zombie boy" will upon hearing her called that, but the way that epithet ends up being used also matches between the two.

"zombie boy" was used to describe will's behavior/state following a previous event (disappearing into the upside down) while also foreshadowing his future behavior/state (corpse-like and emotionless - "undead" - while being controlled by a higher power, the mind flayer).

there isn't anything profound i'm trying to say with this; i just thought it was cool how these seemingly minor descriptors foreshadow things in their respective seasons!

lumax and byler parallels in the same episode (s2 ep5)

ST4 Movie List: The Peanut Butter Solution (1985)

I've decided to try to watch as many movies as possible off this list of ST4 inspirations, provided by the writers, and take notes! Here are my notes on the first movie, The Peanut Butter Solution and how it may correlate to Stranger Things season 4.

First off we’ve got a main character named Michael, so there’s that.

Reading the summary on Wikipedia we’ve got the obvious connection of kids exploring an old house.

What the movie summary is describing as “The Fright” seems to be familiar to Will’s experience with the Mind Flayer in ST2– could this mean a return of the Mind Flayer?

OR, maybe whatever is messing with the Creel house has gotten to one of the Hakwins kids.

Okay so we’ve got a plotline about an absentee parent– given that Lonnie is probably making a return of ST4 this is probably relevant.

OKAY so further in, looks like the mom is just away dealing with family stuff– this makes me think about Joyce, given a lot of the California plotline is probably going to go down while she’s in Russia looking for Hopper.

Okay so this teacher is Evil, given the fact that a lot of Hawkins high seem to have gotten involved in what’s going on (Chrissy, Eddie), I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some sort of teacher antagonist for the Hawkins gang– or maybe for the California gang, but that feels less likely.

Okay we’ve got a really dramatic scene where the kid’s wig gets ripped off (lost his hair after a supernatural encounter) and now he’s being chased and mocked by the other kids– there has to be some sort of reminiscent scene with El in ST4, we already know she’s being bullied in California. The roller rink scene in the teaser looks like the set up to some sort of Carrie moment, as one YouTuber put it, and I’d imagine a public revelation about her past/powers will play into it.

The sister in this movie behaves so parentally… Jonathan vibes.

This kid is really obsessed with being able to go to school and live a normal life even as normal society is starting to reject him and his school is literally turning him away, this is really making me think of El and how ST4 is presumably going to give her the beginnings of normalcy only to snatch it away when disaster inevitably strikes.

Okay Listen to the Magic Man is a banger song and I’m willing to bet money it’ll make an appearance in ST4, it has the exact right vibes

The main character is captured by the villain on his way to school– which, again, he wasn’t supposed to be going to school, as society has now rejected him– reminiscent of how El is trying to live a normal life in ST4 when Brenner will presumably come back for her. Maybe it will be something normal– like going to school– that exposes her to him.

OKAY so we’ve got kids being imprisoned and exploited– did someone say Brenner?

More specifically we have a scene in which the main character’s best friend comes to his rescue and is imprisoned along with a bunch of other children– this leaves me concerned for Will, Mike, and the rest of the California gang.

There are some magical paintings that can serve as otherworldly portals? Makes me wonder how much something like that (or like El’s projection/tracking) could play into the ST4 plot.

This kid is calling his captor father and using this connection to manipulate him into subjecting the same “Fright” that overcame the main character onto himself, allowing him and the other kids to escape. Oh I am so very intrigued for El’s storyline.

There’s a scene at the end with the main kid confronting what scared him and saying that they don’t scare him anymore, making peace with it. I’d attribute this to El, but it feels too amicable and anticlimactic for her Brenner storyline, there may be parallels, but I’m honestly betting it’ll tie more into Will’s storyline, confronting one of the show’s otherworldly aspects (the Mind Flayer, the Demogorgon, the Upside Down itself, etc.).

“The biggest part of The Fright is in your imagination.” I’ve gotta say, I’ve never been one for the theory that this stuff is all happening in Will’s head, but… Hm. Interesting implications.

Aaaaaaaand we end on a happy family reunion! Let’s hope the Byers-Hopper fam gets one too.

So there's my notes on the first movie! Hope you all are interested, and have your own thoughts as well. Overall this was a SUPER weird movie that was strangely delightful to watch and have a laugh at-- but it definitely has a similar spirit to parts of ST and I think gives me a good idea of what parts of ST4 might be aiming for. Let's see if I'm right!