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#this analysis is platonic. do not tag with ships.
lunarlegend · 8 months
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thinkin about how Gladio is literally the only one of the Chocobros who's actually good at socializing and also the only one who's neurotypical, according to me
Prompto acts like a social butterfly, but he's actually riddled with anxiety and imposter syndrome at all times, that boy is never calm
Noctis couldn't give a fuck less about socializing, Prompto is his only friend who wasn't literally assigned to him and he likes it that way
Ignis can socialize because he was trained to...it's his job. however, need i remind everyone:
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that man is sooo autistic. great at masking, yes, but does he actually know what he's doing? no
that leaves Gladio, who (in Japanese) has an extremely jovial voice & demeanor, who is capable of being a playful (and respectful) flirt, and who doesn't mind talking with people (while being perfectly comfortable doing so)
convinced none of them would ever get anywhere without Gladio
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Something I don't like about a lot of Vox takes I see is that they tend to portray Vox as someone who's unpleasant to work with and has weird ideas about what partnership means when really... he's not? He's not and he doesn't. It's just that two of the most prominent interactions we've seen him have are with Valentino(who is a fucking NIGHTMARE to work with) and Alastor(a man he has undisclosed, deeply emotional history with). But everyone seems to discount his OTHER important relationship: Velvette. Which by all accounts, is INCREDIBLY normal.
Like, yeah, their first interaction opens with her yelling at him, but that's less about Vox himself and more about Valentino. As they keep talking throughout the first bit of the episode, she starts calming down, and they just seem to genuinely get along? She has every right to look upset during Stayed Gone because Vox is being really weird and she's nOT THE ONE WHO ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED HIM TO DO THIS SHIT(staring directly at Val rn), but even then during the meeting after Stayed Gone she does actually. Participate. Unlike s o m e people. Despite being on her phone the whole time(which is literally her job-), she actually pays attention and contributes real ideas! Which tbh she didn't have to do at ALL like she did not have to put up w/ Vox's bs in RKtVS the way she did. There's also their phone call during the overlord meeting which, while I definitely think Vel was playing it up to annoy Carmilla, still sounded like a conversation between two ppl who genuinely like and respect eachother!
No matter what you think their relationship is(romantic, platonic, etc...), Vox and Velvette seem to get along REALLY well(outside of Alastor-related incidents). Like, better than either of them do with literally anybody else in the show. Vox & Val do LIKE eachother, but I find whatever the fuck is going on beneath the after the battles & masterless cattles to be DEEPLY upsetting to think about for too long(ex; any of my other posts abt their relationship), and the only other interactions we've seen either Vox or Vel have are Stayed Gone & Respectless, which are literally just song battles. Both of their only interactions outside of the Vees have been song battles. Aw fuck I'm getting off topic... BACK TO THEIR RELATIONSHIP AS COLLEAGUES- okay uh basically, I don't think they would get along this well if Vox was a terrible person to work with(note I said WORK WITH. Hate that I need to specify this but I don't think Vox is a good person overall, just a good business partner). I think Velvette is generally a good bench mark for both Vox & Valentino's relationships with other characters because she's their equal, their friend, and isn't in a weird toxic relationship with either of them. Their interactions with her provide a window into how they just generally interact with people. And based off of their interactions, Vox seems to be actually pretty decent to work with when he isn't being Actively Provoked for shits and giggles or trying to sooth the tantrum of a man child. Also when he views you as an equal and doesn't own your soul that helps too.
Edit: Hiiiiiiii just here to say that now, in the light of day, I don't really agree with everything I've said in this post? I wrote it at midnight while like half asleep so my ability to consider the fact that. We barely know anything about either Vox or Velvette at this point in time. Was kind of impaired I think. Cuz we really don't. I do stand by everything I said about their relationship to EACHOTHER, and I stand by the idea that we should take that dynamic into consideration for character analysis more often, but everything else I'm a little iffy on and I just woke up like an hour ago so my brains still a little fuzzy & I can't explain exactly WHY I'm iffy on it, but just know that I think the conclusion I drew is a bit of a leap in logic at the very least and I recognize that now lol
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linagram · 2 months
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thinking about yueriku again and. the fact that they are basically mahiru and her bf but like.. in a reverse au..
like wdym riku's t2 vd is called "the never-ending cycle of mutual pain". yue liked riku so much and gave him so much attention but that felt suffocating to riku and at the same time he couldn't end their friendship. both mahiru and riku's crimes have something to do with suicide, though riku's case is more ambiguous. and the reverse part is that in mahiru's case, it was her boyfriend (so the one "being suffocated") who ended up dying and in riku's case, it's yue (the one "suffocating him") who ended up as his victim.
like wow. okay. okay
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thebadtimewolf · 10 months
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hey
do yall know any genuine rose tyler stans that are actually upset about how s1 rose was treated as an equal AND a love interest but as soon as s2-s4 rose was treated more as a equal BECAUSE of her being pideonholed as only a 'i can do things too! see!' archetype of love interests that it took two other characters to be treated as an actual equal? like why did ten thru donna said that he needs an equal and that what the dr needs an equal??
rose was already an equal in season 1. its established bts that rose was an equal to ninth doctor? but now why didn't that sentiment continued on with ten? what happened?
like martha is treated like an actual equal because the dr in the past have always hated themselves, reflected back at them, but still shared the joy and comradarie during a joint adventure with said version of self. like even the time lord victorious two parter book - 8 was flirting and 10 flirted back but at the end of the day - both of em can carry themselves without the arrival of the other, leaving the eyerolling and mild disgust or disinterest aspect to ninth dr when he shared a room with them. like the dr not wanting to "date" martha even though he literally in text trying real hard to pull the wool in both ur qnd his own eyes is essentially him trying not to fuck himself.
donna is - in an almost wish-fufilled in what the dr missed from the master - considered an equal preestablished since season 3 guest appeared and fully in season 4. shes seen as a pea in the pod like the dr master rani and romana - keeping up with that specific lot of em without going thru the 'but im better than you' alien egoist rhetoric that the time lords fall to in times of upper handedness. she can manipulate she talk fast she tech-savvy yet people-grounded BUT she makes sure the respect isnt temporary and doesnt lord it over people because everyone is great and without that person, the whole system can fall apart.
because so far, it doesnt feel that way. like are yall not mad that tenth doctor gave rose up?
after seasons of build up and getting shot and everything? the funky alien eldritch being in a mask of an earth lookin boy that had a chance to man up and show feelings when the opportunity is very in your face given to him to do so in a space where he could do so and — he just gave her up? all that moping and whining and when given what he wanted, he just went: no. here. i need an equal and i have donna so im giving you what i TEN think you want as an equal in me and thats him. BUT NINEROSE ARE EQUALS SHE NEVER SAID SHE WANTED HIM HUMAN BUT RATHER HIMSELF AS HE IS.
its like fridging rose but worse. in s2-4 you made her in memory of someone else that ALWAYS treated her as an equal instead of actually continuing on with that with the next face. death wouldve been more forgiving and thats not a great thing to come to a conclusion to. The one that really treated you as both a love interest AND equal is dead, and now you're married to the discarded imitation of the one that only typecasted you as a love interest.
tentoo should be mad abt this too but this aint about him, this is about yall and the rose tyler connundrum.
i wouldve settled for her having the hand - settling for the hand if that hand turned into ninth doctor (like full on christopher eccleston doing donna impression everything) instead of what we got - which was dust. it made more sense that way. because then the dialogue narrative - the doctor's excuse - wouldve been more well recieved. Does it need saying would have more weight if Eccleston played a NineToo whispered i love you because you know it was well meant. Genuine. Its coming from someone that always treated you as an equal and also getting that i love you and not just - oh the human i love. i miss them not because i treated them on equal terms, its strictly because i only love them - no equality at all
like yeah chris wasnt going to return but hes a movie actor - hes used to green screen. he couldve sent a video message in a leather jacket and let it be done. like we couldve had nine saying i love you to rose on doomsday like do you get what im trying to say like. like tooth and claw if it was nine and rose both wouldve been like 'oh look at that a werewolf transformation!' And not what. we got. LIKE DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN
#tv: doctor who#c: rose tyler#c: ninth doctor#c: tenth doctor#{no because im tagging because i want genuine responses and not ANON HATE I WANT ACTUAL DEPH ANALYSIS}#{i dont think i have a tentoo tag. if i did i forgot}#{but i ship the dr with everybody including every TARDIS i see}#{but like i dont ship 10rose or 8rose. like those should be n' stay as platonic SO GLAD 8ROSE IS CANONICALLY PLATONIC thats drdonna LOVE IT}#{like 10martha is more appealing because that man flirted outwardly to her in front of a class and main hospital chief}#{meanwhile 10rose got deleted waste.of.time hand holding seasons 'we had to cut for time' professional sayin IT WAS A WASTE OF TIME}#{THEY CHOSE DUST INSTEAD OF THE FOOD NINE GAVE US FOR FREE WITH LATER 98% DISCOUNTS}#{so yeah but um yeah}#{but like yknow make a comprehensive argument: also goal here non poc ppl TRY NOT TO BE RACIST IN YOUR WORDS}#{i know how easily tempted you are as soon as you see martha and ten in the same sentence let alone the same post: check yo self}#{like 'oh rtd might bring to rose' he might kill her and its feeling and more like hes going to just to appease tories}#{because billie is VERY MUCH not a tory aka conservative so yeah do YOU see why i dont rose back but the moment}#{like he killed off 9 and that was probably due to him being antiroyalist so i IM RIGHTFULLY WORRIED FOR OUR GURL}#{IF she returns as rose tyler. if she returns as the interface THE MOMENT AS SHE IS WELLKNOWN FOR i wont have anythin to worry abt}#{as well as bts conditions but LIKE👀 the worry is there the worry is prevalent present and here}#{she need to come back with tentoo and mia in tow: linked arms handcuffed to each other SOMETHING THAT CALMS ME}#{i dunno who they'll cast for mia i dont care BUT MIA BETTER BE IN TOW WITH HER ON SCREEN IF IS MISS ROSE COME BACK}#{its to calm me.}
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anulithots · 2 months
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Noorie's JJK analysis's/ screaming
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You cannot keep me contained. My overthinking brain is buzzing.
(all sfw! This asexual likes to find as much fluff as possible.... but stuff tends to go over my head so I might accidently reblog a thing or two. Sorry about that <3)
Analysis
Most of my essays are here
Gojo the analyst
SatoSugu and how they support each other
Ao No Sumika - "Will we meet again?"
Gojo and Geto being compliments in an ironic way
Yuji Itadori and his non-existent coping mechanisms
Satoru Gojo... is there anything you don't have?
Gojo and his teasing
Gojo and Geto teachers AU
Gojo, being alone, and loneliness
Itadori is also selfish... and Gojo is compassionate.
Gojo will take care of it. Don't worry
Chapter 236
Jujutsu Kaisen Meta analysis
Would SatoSugu ever get back together
Itadori the sacrifice
Why Gojo and Geto understand each other... and no one else.
Fav Analysis (not by me)
If Geto loved Gojo, why didn't he try to recruit him? by @ellionwrites
How much Geto canonically loved Gojo by @ellionwrites
Who the hell is Gojo Satoru by @fushiglow
Kenjaku's purpose as a literary device by @justrustandstardust
It's only them by @justrustandstardust
SatoSugu as celestial bodies (red and blue) by @justrustandstardust
He knew when he left by @mylee-sketches
Yuji Itadori's... not so healthy tendencies. by @epickiya722 
To read
Chap 236
Fanart
Gojo's wallpaper (crack comic with my sibling @mylee-sketches)
Umbrella
Lousy Personalities
Karaoke (crack comic #2)
Neurodivergent Satoru Gojo
Slice of life ideas
Itadori gets a demon dog plushie for Fushiguro
'I'm Satoru Gojo because of you, Suguru'
KFC breakup
Edits
"You were a wonderful experience"
"You're holy to me"
if JJK had slice of life episodes
(cannon compliant)
Itadori's sense of style
Gojo and Geto insult teachers together
AUs
If Kenjaku possessed Gojo instead of Geto
Headcannons
Aspec Satosugu
Fav fics
Carry me home It's so ridiculously good. Timeline suguru-centric fix-it-fic that doubles as a character deep dive. It's absolutely amazing.
5 Times Gojo Satoru Tries to Rizz Up Geto Suguru and 1 Time He (Kind Of) Succeeds by @justrustandstardust. Really funny. It made the asexual try to hold in laughter. Need I say more. Also prose style and the pacing and character voices are all really really good.
April pink cute satosugu fluff
Urban Privilege Nobara and Gojo bonding. Need I say more.
Embers SatoSugu but post-shibyua and full of painful nostalgia.
like best friends do aromantic satosugu. Mind the tags, for it gets... close to being nsfw? But... aromantic satosugu. It was wonderous.
Two-headed Calf Post breakup but pre vol. 0. What could've been. Absolute pain.
here and where you are - cityboys - 呪術廻戦 | Jujutsu Kaisen (Manga) [Archive of Our Own] REALLY REALLY REALLY SAD Itafushi. Alternate Shibuya timeline but somehow even sadder than cannon, believe it or not. It's a 'everyone gets a happy ending' but in the worst way possible.
Fav JJK posts that make me ~feel things~
Suguruuuuu whyyy
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also also, specific JJK things that give me happy sparkles (I like pain):
SatoSugu but they transcend labels and to me they have a queer platonic flavor to them. (Romantic, Queer platonic, best friends, soulmates, everything. They are everything. But I like Queer Platonic for them quite a lot! They feel like Queer platonic to me <3)
Itafushi but I flipflop between fluff ship and best dynamic in history, or both.
Itadori and Fusiguro's their differing morals and perspectives on a complex situation/circumstances.
Maki and Mai angst.
Found family Gojo and Tokyo trio.
Tokyo trio in general.
Itadori and his sensei's
Itadori in general
SHOKO MY ASTHETIC CRUSSHHHh
Geto's children
The Junpei arc
Cursed womb arc
Maki and Nobara
Inumaki
Nanami and Hibara
Megumi and his sister
Found family Gojo and the Fushiguro children
everything. Literally everything except for Mei mei and the dub.
Want to blabber about JJK with me? Feel free to ask! <3
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aurorabyler · 2 years
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Flashbacks in Stranger Things: When, Why, and How They Are Used (Long Analysis)
sit back and relax everyone. this is gonna be my longest post yet.
disclaimer before anyone proceeds--i have not tagged this post with any relationships other than byler so if you do not like this pairing please just scroll past this post! i never cross tag because i truly want a safe fandom space for everyone. this is just my analysis of the show and my own brainrot.
I’ve thought about the usage of flashbacks in Stranger Things a lot over the past few weeks. I saw a post by user @girlskth on Twitter (HUGE shoutout to them for this very eye-opening post, please go check it out their tweet and give them all the love!!), who mentioned the contrast between Max’s scene in Dear Billy (running up that hill → from Vecna), versus El being trapped by the vines in 4x09.  First: we need to talk about flashbacks as they have been used throughout film and TV history as a key literary device. Here are some articles that I found that explain why flashbacks can be so important to understanding characters:
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This quote is vital:
"Flashbacks are really a function of character, not story…the visual image we’re seeing is what the character is thinking and feeling at that present moment…it illuminates a character’s point of view.”
Flashbacks are never pointlessly placed. There is always an intent behind reverting back to the old material to demonstrate something about the character’s current mindset. 
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These two scenes are clearly parallels (complete credits to @girlskth for bringing this up), as both Max and El are encountering the same situation–being trapped in Vecna’s lair and hearing a monologue from him. The scenes are not only plot parallels but visual ones.
However, there is one thing lacking in this parallel, and @girlskth brilliantly points out what it is—their emotional connection. Max relies on flashbacks of her happiest memories to free herself from Vecna’s trance and come back to reality. There are MANY flashbacks of her platonic relationships (her friendship with El being the most significant), and her romantic relationship with Lucas, which is ultimately what gives her enough time to run away from Vecna.
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Now, going into El’s scene, I as a viewer was EXPECTING that they would show flashbacks of El’s happy memories with Mike during his monologue. This is coming from someone who does not ship these two characters together at all.
I like them as friends, and I was still waiting for them to show us moments from their kiss at the snowball, from Mike giving Eleven the name “El,” from Mike calling her for 353 days in season 2, from Mike saying “No, El, you’re not the monster–you saved me,” from El saying she loves him at the end of season 3…but nothing. 
Absolutely no flashbacks were shown apart from the scene of the boys finding El in the woods. This is extremely odd for a couple who has supposedly been the centrepiece of Stranger Things for four seasons, or, in the words of people who ship these characters, have been “built up for four seasons.” But no. Nothing.
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This is an INSANE contrast to Max’s Dear Billy scene, which went out of its way to show her history with all of these characters over the 3 seasons her character has been in the show. 
The concept of “show, don’t tell,” is critical in understanding this parallel. Take Max’s relationships that are highlighted when she is in Vecna’s trance: these flashbacks all occur because she knows they will give her strength. She is never verbally prompted to think about these memories because she has confidence they will help her fight in her darkest moment. Here’s some more information on show don’t tell and how it is used in media:
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If we apply Max's unconcious logic to El’s scene in Vecna’s lair, being able to pull from her happy memories with Mike should have been something that came relatively naturally to her. Except, this didn’t happen. What did happen? El’s memories with Max DID come naturally, and those memories ultimately saved Max’s life.
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Zero Flashbacks to Mike/El's Past Seasons' Dynamic
While waiting for volume two, even as someone who likes this pairing platonically, I was excited to see flashbacks to season 1 Mike/Eleven once they reunited at the Nina Project. I’ll always be nostalgic for seasons 1 and 2 and I wanted to see some of their friendship dynamics from those seasons come back. I was literally expecting there to be some sort of “still pretty?” flashback, or some other cut back to season one. Again, I am saying all of this entirely as someone who 100% believes in a byler endgame for this show. I was still very surprised by this, and it is clearly intentional on the writer’s part.
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Some would argue that the lack of flashbacks is due to the varying perspectives in Mike’s monologue scene. We see Mike’s, Will’s, El’s, and Jonathan’s POVs switching between each other in this scene. When peeling back the layers, we learned that Mike's monologue utilizes the miscommunication trope in a big way. Let’s analyze:
Mike is under the impression, because of Will, that “these past few months she (El) has been so lost without you…You make her feel like she’s not a mistake at all–like she’s better for being different. And that gives her the courage to fight on.” —Will, 4x09
First and foremost: Mike’s monologue would not have happened without Will’s veiled confession in the van. He believes Will’s feelings are El’s, and it is these feelings that make him think that what he says is what El needs to hear. 
Mike is TOLD (not sure if he entirely believes it especially after the final scene in the cabin when El walks away from him, but we’ll have to wait for more scripts to see the truth), that El has been “lost” without him and that she “needs” him to be able to fight.
This is what he is TOLD by Will about El, and this is not true, as NOWHERE during any of El’s scenes at school in California, or once Mike comes to visit, or during her time at the Nina Project, or during her battles with the military + Vecna does El EVER give the impression that she somehow needs Mike in her life to keep fighting, or that he gives her courage. In fact, given all of the parallels El draws between Mike's "what did you do?" and Brenner's "what have you done?" I would say what Mike gives her is the opposite of courage.
El keeps fighting because she has come into herself and she is powerful and strong, not because she needs Mike there to help her. And Mike, prior to Will’s confession, knows this is the truth, as seen by the line in the official script that was cut out from the show: 
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If El truly needed Mike to “fight on,” as Will implies with his own feelings, I believe that more flashbacks would have been utilized, regardless of the multiple perspectives in the scene, to show how Mike has supposedly helped El “fight” in the past. But none of this was shown BECAUSE El’s battles have always been about her personal arc and growth. In the past seasons, El has never relied on or needed Mike to help her fight–he has been misled because of Will’s veiled confession. 
Perhaps the best example of El’s battles being about her own growth is in the 2x09 scene where she closes the gate: you'll see here that all the flashbacks she has during this critical battle have to do with her personal growth and past trauma. The same is true of her fight with the Demogorgon in season 1, of learning from Kali in season 2, of fighting Billy and the Mind Flayer in season 3--her relationship with Mike is not critical to any of these battles. It is her friendships and familial love that motivates her as well as her own coming of age.
The miscommunication about El "needing" Mike to be able to "fight" explains a lot of things, including, at least to an extent why Mike VISIBLY HESITATED when saying “I love you” for the first time in his monologue. There are obviously other reasons to this that have been analyzed by many other people, but I feel this miscommunication is critical.
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This is something that has really been annoying me ever since season 4 came out: the whole plotline about Mike not being able to say he loves El should be extremely clear to audiences about what it implies. I love romance and I KNOW that the Duffers can write amazing love stories (Lumax, Jancy, Jopper…).
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Lucas and Max never once say they love each other but it is clear to audiences–they SHOW it in their own ways. 
True love is shown, not told–especially in media.
That is how the most popular romantic pairings are so believable to audiences. Showing, not telling your love for someone, makes it feel real. And boom: ever since season 3 and ESPECIALLY after season 4, there have been hundreds of thousands of people saying that Mike/El's dynamic seems "off" somehow.
My point here is that if you love someone unconditionally, if you are truly, deeply in love with them, you would not hesitate for a moment to say that you love them, especially if they practically beg you to say it while crying about that very fact. You would also not call them “ridiculous” after they start crying and then you proceed to deflect blame about a situation you caused onto other people. 
Love is powerful. To me, it’s one of the most powerful things that exists in this world. And I believe that the writers of this show feel the same way: Love Conquers All. I’ll insert one of my favourite quotes from Avatar: The Last Airbender to display how I feel about this topic:
"You have indeed felt a great loss. But love is a form of energy, and it swirls all around us. The air nomads' love for you has not left this world. It is still inside of your heart, and is reborn in the form of new love." -Guru Pathik, Avatar: The Last Airbender
Real, romantic love is never something that should be questioned at critical moments. Let me emphasize: I do not question that Mike platonically loves El. He clearly loves her a great amount as shown by what he has gone through with her over the course of the show, just as he loves Lucas, Dustin, Max, Nancy, etc. 
Millie literally said in an interview for ST4 that “Mike is not loving Eleven the way she wants to be loved.” This situation for El is honestly extremely heartbreaking because she truly deserves so much better than what she’s been given. El is one of my favourite characters and I love her dearly, and seeing her suffer because of this relationship as well as the bullying at school hits very close to home for me. She deserves so much happiness and I hope she gets to have endless amounts of it by the end of season 5. 
How else have flashbacks been used in Stranger Things? 
The article I cited earlier holds true to the Stranger Things writer’s perspective on flashbacks. Remember: "flashbacks are really a function of character, not story…the visual image we’re seeing is what the character is thinking and feeling at that present moment…it illuminates a character’s point of view.” Utilizing flashbacks as a literary device in this manner has been seen multiple times in the show at key character moments. 
Will and Joyce
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This flashback is key to showing Joyce's relationship with her son and how much she loves him. It holds true to the article in that it SHOWS that while searching for Will, she thinks back to the time they spent together in Castle Byers.
Jonathan and Will
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Jonathan's relationship with Will is key to season one and remains one of the most beautiful parts of Stranger Things. This flashback, just like the ones with Max and Joyce, happens naturally. Jonathan associates The Clash with Will and can't help thinking back to their happy memories together once he hears the song play. This simple scene shows the depth of their relationship.
Hopper and Sarah
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In my opinion, this is by far the most effective use of flashback Stranger Things has used to date. When I watched season 1 in 2016, this was the scene that made me cry my eyes out. I still think about it to this day as the catalyst that started my long-running love for this show. While trying to revive Will, Hopper is reminded of his daughter Sarah's struggle with cancer which led to her death. This flashback is a perfect representation of Hopper's development.
Hopper's arc in seasons 1 and 2 was one of my favourite things to watch: he starts as someone cold and isolated who drowns himself in drugs and alcohol to cope with his past trauma. Eventually, he learns to love again in all sorts of ways once Joyce comes back into his life. Hopper's drive to find Will and his love for Joyce inadvertently led him to El, and as he says in season 3:
"For so long, I'd been stuck in one place...And then, I left some Eggos out in the woods, and you came into my life. And for the first time in a long time, I started to feel things again." -Hopper's Letter, 3x03
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In summary: flashbacks are used with intent and to SHOW the audience a character's internal struggles and thoughts. Stranger Things follows the textbook way to use flashbacks effectively, and has clearly been selective for a reason when it comes to which moments they choose to remind us of, as well as when, how, and why these moments are used. They have juxtaposed two very similar scenes and how the characters have escaped from the series' antagonist, Vecna, using these flashbacks/memories to their advantage. The final battle between El and Vecna was driven by El's love for Max. Mike was under the impression that what he said was what El needed to hear because it was veiled in Will's feelings. While these ideas have been widely discussed, showing how flashbacks have been effectively used throughout the show and comparing them to their usage (or lack thereof) in season 4 gives us excellent insights into El's headspace, as well as what the future holds for these characters. I put my blood, sweat, and tears into this analysis so I really hope you enjoyed it! Please give it a reblog if you can and leave your thoughts in the comments. I'd love to know your interpretation :) Thank you so much for reading! <3
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mixelation · 24 days
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thoughts on itadei, itakisa, and itasaku? and i guess any other popular itachi ships that are not currently coming to mind for me lol
ItaDei
Love it. Have written tens of thousands of words about it. It's sort of a frustrating ship to write because they're both assholes about their own feelings (and I don't think Itachi in canon... has a lot of thoughts on Deidara), but Deidara has an extremely canonical gay melt down over Itachi, so I feel like there's a lot of ridiculousness to explore. The fact that they're both criminal villain ninja means there's a lot of room for understanding that other ships might not have. Yes, Deidara blows buildings up with people inside, what of it? He's not like "ooh aah you monster!!" over the Uchiha Massacre. And I like that they both have wildly different, but demonstrably lethal/successful, attitudes towards problem solving. Like I think they cover a lot of each other's flaws while also making each other worse, you know?
Since it's "brutally honest" opinion time, I will add a complaint I haven't made in a while. I hate the way a good chunk of fandom writes Deidara in mlm ships. For some reason, people like to make him a naive uwu bean to play the "feminine" role. Stop that, it's boring and OOC.
ItaKisa
This is a ship I don't really mind but also don't find super compelling. I'm not a big Kisame fan-- like he's fine, I like writing and reading about him fine-- but he's not one of my favorite Akatsuki members. I don't filter on ItaKisa but the tag won't make me NOT click a fic. I could be compelled to write it if I had an idea for it. I do prefer exploring their relationship from a more platonic angle. Kisame is most interesting to me when he's the guy dealing with Itachi's bullshit 24/7 and somehow still thriving.
ItaSaku
My original OTP!!!!!! Okay so I think they're super compatible and HERE'S WHY--
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Basically I think Itachi is someone who has idealized romance in a way where he has an extensive very bland fantasy about nice Konoha girls who let him have the most bland vanilla hetersosexual marriage of all time. He wants the culturally appropriate equivalent of a white picket fence. Would he actually be happy with this? No, obviously not, but Itachi also thinks he's a pacifist.
Meanwhile Sakura is a violent maniac who is trying her hardest to BE that nice Konoha girl. They indulge each other's insane fantasies about it. Itachi looks at Sakura and is like: "oh yes, the perfect Konoha kunoichi, the student of the Hokage and Hatake Kakashi, a healer with the face of an angel--" But if his ability for self-analysis were 2% better he would realize his favorite Sakura moments are all like "ripped a man in half" and "brought that same man back from the brink of death to interrogate him." He is ready to lay back and let Sakura live out her own fantasy of Fixing the tragic S-ranked missing-nin WITH HER LOVE because that is also what Itachi wants. Ignore that the village is on fire, please
Other Itachi Ships
Let's see.... every once in a while I get intrigued by the idea of Kakashi/Itachi, but I have never hit on anything there that I really like. I'm fine with Shisui/Itachi, but I don't think Shisui has enough of a canon presence for me to go really feral over it like I would ItaSaku or ItaDei. I'm intrigued by some other Itachi/Akatsuki ships although I don't think any of them are popular. For example, I think Itachi and Sasori would clash horribly in that they're both assholes in similar directions, and this would make SasoItaDei a beautiful trashfire for Deidara specifically.
I've written some Itachi-Karin interactions that I thought were fun so I think ItaKarin could be interesting. Ummm..... OH! I regularly forget Izumi even exists. Sorry, Izumi.
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Hi there!
Finally got around to making it happen! This blog is the official blog for the Roudise Ship Week 2023! I hope you all are as excited as I am that these two finally made it to having a week dedicated to them. Whether you ship them Romantically or Platonically, this week is about celebrating this wonderful duo! I encourage you all to get involved even if It’s just supporting the talented artists. The week will be from December 11th to the 17th, 7 days to show off your wonderful creations! What creations are allowed? Absolutely anything: Fanart, Fanfic, Animations, Moodboards, Headcannons, Analysis, Videos and even Playlists! All you have to do is tag this blog in your post, also with the hashtag: RoudiseWeek2023, and we will reblog it! You can also submit a post on our blog, we will give full credit to the artist and you will be tagged. I shall make a separate post on the Rules for this ship week, so please keep your eyes peeled for that. Any more questions don’t hesitate to ask here, on my main account @devilh0rnsinc, or my moderator for this ship week @ItWharfy!
Have a lovely day! - Devil <3
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See More Seymour's Week Guidelines
March 4th - Side, Minor, and One-Off Character Day - #smsw side March 5th - Romantic Relationship Day - #smsw romantic March 6th - Original Character Day - #smsw oc March 7th - Platonic Relationship Day - #smsw platonic March 8th - Free Space Day - #smsw free
This is a week celebrating underrated gems. Any non-Belcher characters can be posted on side character day, but Belchers can be featured on ship days. Dynamics that don't already have a ship week can be posted on ship days. Ships with existing weeks can cameo in your work, but the focus should be on the rarer character or dynamic. Existing weeks: boblin, louigan, roudise, tinimmy, and zekina. Works will be reblogged with the tags listed above. If you miss a day, that's okay, late entries are fine. Please still post your work, clarify the day you're posting for, and tag the blog. Speaking of:
You. Must. Tag. The. Blog.
There is absolutely no way to track all the possible iterations y’all could come up with for “See More Seymour’s Week” in the tags. You have to @seemoreseymoursbay either in your post or in the replies of your posts for me to find it. I’ll follow smsw and seemoreseymoursweek, but that’s no guarantee I’ll find your work if something is misspelled.
Optional prompts:
Because each day is dedicated to a character or type of dynamic, we're not assigning prompts to any one day. Instead, you may pick from the word bank to use any day, or feel free to ignore them completely. Prompts are revealed a month in advance, but one teaser: Wonder Wharf won by a landslide as favorite prompt. Update: prompts can be found here!
Mature and explicit content is allowed
Please be sure to comply with tumblr’s policies and use community labels when appropriate. We’ll use the tag #smswnsfw when reblogging posts if you want to follow of filter that tag. Dead Dove content will not be featured in this week.
Harassment is not allowed
Harassment will be blocked from the event. Negative asks or anons will not be answered. Please do not engage with someone who is purposefully malicious.
Your medium of creativity is up to you
We want you to be as diverse as your rarepairs, poly ships, minor antagonists, one-off characters, favorite side character, etc. when picking your medium of creativity. Digital art, traditional art, amvs, collages, fics, gifs, headcanons, meta/analysis, moodboards, playlists and more are all welcome. Use a prompt or don't. Mostly, just have fun!
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Lost Secret Santa
Hi! I thought it would be fun to do a Lost Secret Santa this year, since it seems like the community is big enough that an event like this would work!
This will be a pretty basic fandom Secret Santa gift exchange. You will be assigned a giftee that you can anonymously get to know through asks and make them a gift to be echanged around Christmastime.
Gifts can be really any kind of fandom content you like to make. Some ideas of what that could be include (but are not limited to): fanfic, fanart, edits/gifsets, fan video, a playlist, meta/analysis of a certain character/ship/episode/scene etc., a handmade item (only if the giftee is comfortable giving you an address you can send it to), poetry, icons/profile pics/banners, or themes!
So basically the plan for Lost Secret Santa is you have until November 20th to sign up, and I will be anonymously assigning you a giftee on the weekend of November 25th.
When you sign up there are spaces for you to list what characters or ships you want to receive a gift for, and what characters or ships you are okay making something for, as well as what kind of fandom content
You can list specific ships/characters or general things for either (for example: Kate Austen, Jack x Kate; or any m/m ship, any female character, any canon ship, any platonic friendship, etc.) please be specific and list any character or ship you really don't want to make something for so that I don't assign you a giftee that you won't enjoy making a gift for, however, try to give more than one answer, especially if it's a less major character or rarepair ship with a smaller fanbase.
I will share your preference for characters/ships and type of content you want to receive with only your gifter, and will not share which characters you will/won't create for with anyone.
Once you have been assigned your giftee you will have a month to send them messages on anon so that you can get to know them better and make a gift that they will like!
Gifts will ideally be posted on December 24th, 25th, or 26th, but can be posted any time up until December 31st.
Tag your gifts with #lostsecretsanta2023 so that I can reblog them
If you sign up but have to drop out at any time, I totally understand but please let me know as early as possible so that I can figure out something for your giftee so that everyone gets something.
I'm not sure how many people will be interested in doing this but I hope it will be fun
Here's the link to the form you can use to sign up
Send me an ask if you have any questions at all about how it will work
(please boost this if you plan on participating or have a lost-centric blog so that more people can see it)
tagging some lost mutuals and people who expressed interest under the cut (as always if you don't want me to tag you in things please let me know)
@obsessivedaydreamer @eponine119 @epiphytecanopy @bitchboylinus @unorthodox-oblivion @ff-12 @linusbenjamin @stripesysheaven @skatiet @ivebeendressingforrevenge @hamster-on-fire @finneganhart
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Hi Sif! I saw you addition to my post and I wanted to follow up and say that I did a more complete analysis looking at every character on the Dream SMP. I definitely didn't think my original post was going to spread as far as it did, since it was me just gushing my surface level thoughts. Part of the reason I followed up with a more thorough look was that I didn't want to let misinformation spread without actually looking at the full data.
I agree with some of your points but I would like to push a little and say that I do think that there is still a gender bias. While Hannah's situation might be more related to her later addition to the server and lack of prominent romantic relationships (beyond Tinarose, which still counts as a rarepair by numbers), the numbers for Niki are a significant outlier considering her early presence and involvement in numerous character/story arcs, especially compared to some characters that fared better than her.
I obviously can't control for every variable and every reason the numbers may show what they do. And there are many, many reasons people can and should use tags the way they do. But I think it is not too far-fetched to say that the Dream SMP fandom does have a problem with overusing tags that don't actually portray what happens in their fic AND with under-valuing characters with marginalized identities, which are partially reflected in the way relationship tags and character tags work together as they do today.
Here's the thing, I actually don't think that Niki's story count is weird at all, I think you may just be underestimating how popular certain pairings/platonic relationships are.
Let's take a comparison that I think is more than fair, c!Punz. Punz has a pretty comparable if not larger impact on the story than c!Niki. particularly towards the finales he plays different roles in them. But outside of c!Dream he doesn't have a lot of other major relationships that are popular in fanon, outside of him and c!Purpled. Despite this, c!Punz is often important to the plot, and he joined a full month before Niki did. Hell, he joined before Tubbo and just after Tommy.
But look at his top 10,
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He does have 2/10 of his top relationships, but it's platonic/romantic drunz, so just different flavors of the same relationship. Outside of that, you see all the same super popular ships that you saw on ever other characters. It's just what happens in fandom.
As it turns out, some dynamics are just incredibly popular. DNF alone has nearly 25k fics written just for it. So honestly, with that many raw fics, it's hardly surprising that about 5% of them happen to feature Punz. Which ends up being more fics than the rest of his relationship category.
It's not that Punz is being incorrectly tagged in these fics, it's just that DNF is incredibly incredibly popular, and by virtue of that you end up here.
SBI similarly has about 21k fics, and Wilbur & Tommy have about 22k.
Niki's numbers aren't particularly weird, it's just that these particular dynamics are extremely popular. If you filter out just those three insanely popular dynamics, you get this,
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Niki ends up in 4/10 (sorta 4/9 since one of these is just "no romantic relationships" which people use as a relationship tag for some reason rather than just putting that in additional tags).
I'm not saying that there aren't gender biases in how certain characters are treated. To some extent people often feel less comfortable shipping female creators because people in the past were being creeps about it and forcing it onto female creators in their chats (lots of creators had to address this with their chats, Techno included). Which will lead to a specific decline in the amount they get tagged in the ship section.
What I am saying is that I don't actually think there's a gender bias in how characters are tagged, and I don't think ship stats are a good way to prove that. Characters can be important to a story and not be tagged in the ship section. Also, frankly, a lot of times authors force in or tag a "popular" ship just to get more attention for their story, even if that ship isn't a huge part of the story.
I'm also not rely sure what exactly you want to see happen with a post like that. Like, should people not tag female characters that are relevant to their story if they're also tagging a really popular ship? I don't think that's a good idea. It is just kinda being the fandom police if that really is your take on it, if you come at it from the perspective that you get to decide how other people should tag. I know you said you weren't trying to be that, but like, that's how it comes off.
Some people will tag based on relevancy, some people tag as warnings. Both are valid methods of tagging, and you don't have a right to control how other people use their tags. That's something I believe very strongly in.
I've also never really been fond of turning enjoyment of characters into a moral thing either. People will enjoy what characters they connect to for any number of reasons, and shaming them for not enjoying particular female characters has never done anyone any good. I've seen it a thousand times before in every fandom I've been in and all it does is make people feel guilty. What actually does a lot more good is instead being excited about the female characters you like, and creating interesting fandom content for them that helps get other people interested.
If you want more people to be passionate about something, start from a point of passion, not a point of shame.
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Welcome to my Domain
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Hi Ty/Tia here! Welcome to my What in "Hell" is bad? and Obey me/Main Blog 🐭
OM! Acc ID: 4061908245 -|- OM!NB Acc ID: 3826156329
I mostly write fanfic about Obey Me! and What in "Hell" is bad? but I will Reblog or post random things about Obey Me, Hypnosis Mic, Paradox Live, Love Unholyc, Ark Academy, Arcana Twilight, Nu: Carnival, Horror/Slashers and Monsters.
A little heads up:
My content can range from silly and goofy to horror, dark humor, and suggestive themes. But nothing Hard type of content like Smut. Aka this Blog is 16+ rated
Here's the reason I will block Blank accounts and block the tag #spark's naughty hour if you don't want NSFW-ish post or Reblogs
Here is a note about why I don't do Character x Character ship
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Request (Open) or just want to chat Here!
Currently writing: Whatever comes to mind
Will write: Bloody Horror romance, Angst/Fluff, Semi-Dark comedy/Humor, Self-indulge Fic, PG13 Comedic sexual Situation, Family-ish stories and Monstrous/Demonic!AU.
Will not write: Hardcore Smut, Yandere, Meanspirited Dark!AU, Character X Character, Demoncest, Hate Fics, Real world issues, and Replace!AU
GN!MC will be my default. But comfortable with F!MC, and willing to write M!MC. (MC X Character or Poly!MC)
MC X WHB!King(s), WHB!Nobles (By regions), Minhyeok, Solomon is strictly Familia
Poly!MC X OM!Brothers or OM!Dateables, Luke is strictly Platonic
Obey me!
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The Blue lotus petals Series (Monstrous/more Demonic forms AU)
Obey Me! Masterlist (Fics, Headcanon and Analysis)
My MC and Self-Indulge Fics
What in "Hell" is Bad?
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What in "Hell" is Bad? (Game and Character info)
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Ark Academy (Character masterlist)
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The Defense is not ready, your Honour...
A sideblog for all the Ace Attorney discussion & fanart I happen to think of and like, respectively.
Our court record contains the following evidence:
Analysis on things that have stuck in my brain like corn kernels
Random ramblings I found amusing enough to put into words
JUSTICE!
Fanart. A lot of it. There's too much I can't not reblog...
An unusual amount of Dual Destinies-related posts. Athena and Simon have overwritten my neurological functions, to my chagrin.
Court Proceedings:
Posts that deconstruct canon & ones that discuss fanon/headcanons will be clearly denoted. Keep discussions neat and cleanly defined in the pursuit of the truth!
Reblogged ship art will always be tagged for those who wish to block/find the respective pair tags.
Parrots are permitted on the witness stand to provide testimony under extreme circumstances.
Anon asks are enabled. Any assassins that wish to give testimony may do so with complete anonymity and safety.
The Investigation games and other spinoffs are unfamiliar territory for this page. Bare that in mind!
Orcas are permitted on the witness stand under the same conditions as for a parrot to be brought to the stand.
Old personal tags:
#order in the court! - Any old nonsense. If it would get me yelled at by a judge it's going here.
#witness testimony - Reblogs from other sources
#cross examining the witness - Replies via reblog
#evidence approval - General fanart tag
#the court record has been updated - Follow-ups from posts made here
#turn your thinking around! - Story analysis. Headcanons are kept to a minimum.
#this is baseless conjecture! - Headcanons and similar musings. Ranges from educated to pure nonsense.
#psyche-lock cracking - Character analysis.
#perceiving secrets - Visual analysis.
#let your heart be heard - Asks, either requesting or answering.
#herman crab approved - marker for strictly non-romantic readings of plot or pairings. Those without this are open to interpretation going forward!
#the cykes brigade is totally cyked! - Athena Cykes.
#auticykes - niche tag for Autistic Athena Cykes posts
#arothena/#arothena agenda - niche tags for Aromantic Athena Cykes posts
#hi widget! - erm, Widget. Duh.
#prosecutor birdman - Simon Blackquill.
#psych siblings - Athena & Simon duo posts. Mis-written frequently, my bad.
#twin-horned devil - Aura Blackquill.
#quillblings - Simon & Aura duo posts.
#rare moon of hope - Metis Cykes.
#dear bosom buzzard - Taka.
#in robert we trust! - Bobby Fulbright.
#blade of JUSTICE - Simon and Bobby's pair tag. Non-romantic variations included.
#fey appreciation posts - Mia, Maya, and Pearl-oriented posts. Other Fey clan-related chicanery is also included.
#maya apprecition/#mia appreciation/#pearl appreciation - See above, but more specific.
#mr fine - Apollo Justice.
#what's faith without doubt? - Apollo and Athena's shared tag. Do as you will, I just really like these two and their arc.
#apollo's girlfriend - Mikeko.
#the wright man for the job - Phoenix Wright (PW1-3, DD/SoJ).
#you've come to the wright place! - Trucy Wright.
#the perceptive pair - Duo tag for Apollo and Trucy. Non-negotiably platonic/sibling.
#the king of prosecutors - Miles Edgeworth.
#beanix - Phoenix Wright (AJ:AA).
#piano man - Klavier Gavin.
#for skyentific purposes - Ema Skye.
#gone swimming - Damon Gant.
#foolishly foolish fools! - Franziska von Karma.
#call them karmic justice - Egdeworth/Franziska's shared tag. Non-negotiably silbing/sibling-esque.
#man freed from karma - Manfred von Karma.
#dirt earthman - Clay Terran.
#judge junie - Juniper Woods.
#an orange for strength - Thena and Junie's shared tag.
#17 cups of coffee - Godot/Diego Armando.
#moon's haunted - ???/"The phantom".
#hang loose baby! - Roger Retinz.
#a sad monk - Nahyuta Sahdmadhi.
#udgey - The Judge.
#this isn't texas dude - Jake Marshall.
#DISMANTLE DISMANTLE DISMANTLE- - Ted Tonate.
#a covetous crow - Kay Faraday.
#fresh as a spring breeze - Matt Engarde.
#splendiferous! - Redd White.
#i want to protect you! - Blue Badger. Yes I'm serious.
#emotional noise - Old version of #order in the court!
#updating the mood matrix - Old version of #the court record has been updated
#dual destinies analysis - dedicated tag for DD analysis posts, defunct
#dual destinies watchthrough - officially retired
#thena thoughts/#a thena - Athena Cykes text and fanart respectively, defunct
#simon soliloquys/#art of the twisted samurai - Simon Blackquill text and fanart respectively, defunct
#case 6 2 watchthrough - officially retired
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Welcome to the Cave of Delphi!
I promote love, not hate on this blog.
Apollo love (platonic) in particular.
If 1,000 people love Apollo, I am one of those people. If 100 people love Apollo, I am one of those people. If 10 people love Apollo, I am one of those people. If only 1 person loves Apollo, I AM that person. If nobody loves Apollo, than I have left this world. If the world is against Apollo, I am against the world.
New followers, Please:
Change your profile picture;
Add a description to your blog; and/or
REBLOG!!!! THINGS!!!! :D
So I know you aren't a bot and I won't block you :3
Tumblr thrives on reblogs :3 as do us other bloggers :3
thank u <3
About Me
Age: 19
Nationality: American
Religion: Roman Catholic
Pronouns: She/Her
Romantic Orientation: Demiromantic (sometimes I use Panromantic)
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Current Obsessions: Greek Mythology, Apollo, Trials of Apollo, Apollo, Ancient Greece, Apollo, Roman Empire, & Apollo
My Cohost
My Youtube Videos
My Posts
Favorite Posts
The Copollo Fic Masterlist
Fic Recs
🏹➳~My Fanfics~➳🏹
Fanfic Update Order
The Works of Apollo - RRverse Canon Compliant
Adventures in (Grand)Parenting: Featuring Koios - Our favorite grandpa and his many trials and errors at grandparenting
Alder's Mess of ToA AUs - RRverse Canon Divergent AUs within the series
The Crew of Dodona - ToA Pirate AU
Mythology Fics - The OG myths
Tag List:
#ramblings of an oracle - me spouting whatever i what
#the oracle speaks - asks i have answered <3
#my incorrect quotes - IQs from my own fanfics, not from the myths or ToA
#my art - self-explanatory lmao
#fic asks - asks about my fanfics <3
#ask game - responses to an ask game
Mythology
#apollo love
Duos
#sun n moon twins - Apollo n Artemis <3
#truth n lies - Apollo & Hermes
#logic n chaos - Apollo & Dionysus
#knowledge & wisdom - Apollo & Athena
#theives' hunt - Hermes & Artemis
#poetry and love - Apollo & Aphrodite
#light and fire - Apollo & Hephaestus
#plague and war - Apollo & Ares
#stepduo - Apollo & Hera
#harmony & order - Apollo & Zeus (mainly ToA)
Groups
#the disaster trio - Apollo, Artemis, & Hermes
#queer quartet - Apollo, Artemis, Hermes, & Dionysus
#troublesome triad - Apollo, Hermes, & Dionysus
#raggamuffin kids - all of the second-gen Olympian sibs
#civilization trio - Apollo, Hermes, & Athena
#the music gang - Apollo & the Muses
#chaotic crew - Apollo, Dionysus, Hermes, & Persephone
#tasteful trio - Apollo, Dionysus, & Aphrodite
#delphic triad - Leto and her babies <3
#regal trio - Zeus and the twins
#raggamuffin parents - 1st gen Olympians AKA the children of Kronos
#delphic fam - the maternal side of the twins' family <3
The Stuff
#greek mythology analysis
#incorrect greek mythology quotes
#mythology aus
#greek myths
#greek myth fanart
#greek myth memes
#greek myth headcanons
#greek myth vines
#greek fam tree
#greek history
#apollocinthus - Apollo & Hyacinthus Supremacy Here
#apoly - Apollo's polycule because he is <3
Then just type in a god/goddess to find stuff with them in it. I can reassure you i will have plenty of stuff with Apollo, Artemis, & Hermes.
sometime tho i will put extra stuff behind it (ex: #pan the god)
for reference: I classify a "meme" as a funny post with pictures or something like that. A "quote" would be, well, quotes.
The Trials of Apollo (RiordanVerse)
*stuff that is exclusively from ToA*
#sunflower siblings - apollo & meg
#sibling shenanigans - apollo, artemis, thalia, & jason
#triumvirite holdings - the three nasty emperors
#prophecy pair - apollo & rachel
#incorrect trials of apollo quotes
#nero
#commodus
#caligula
#meg mccaffery
#python
#copollo - the guilty-pleasure, absolute TRAINWRECK of a ship between Apollo and Commodus. *slaps ship* i can fit so many ISSUES into this ship!
#toa fanart
#toa theory
#riordanverse headcanons
#toa memes
#toa polls
#toa fanfiction
#apollo fanfiction
#if i was a demigod
ToA Fanfics
#tsari: eclipse
Epics
#the iliad
#the odyssey
#the aeneid
#the trojan war
#trojan war memes
#incorrect trojan war quotes
then just type in a character's name (Ex: #diomedes) and it should pop up. However, some characters I've put extra stuff with like:
#prince hector
#helen of sparta
#jason the argonaut
so as i go/find those names with extras in them i'll place them above
Other
#not myths but it's related
#rome
#poetry
#music
#the haiku bot
#resources
#blood of zeus
#roman emperors
#sacred animals
#statues
#paintings
#notes for later
#not myths
#rhymes
i have a tag for other deities so just type in their name and then what religion they are (Example: #frey norse god; thoth egyptian god; bast egyptian goddess; ect.) <- all one tag
i won't do it often, but i also may reblog stuff from other mythologies like norse or egyptian (HA I SPELT IT RIGHT FIRST TIME WHOOP)
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The Hypocritical Nature of Fandom Shipping
Pairings we should be concerned with in Teen Wolf
Please read this as I feel I have made some relatively important points
Disclaimer:
This is about the concerning age gaps and what people focus on, this is mostly regarding people who are Anti-Sterek.
This is primarily on AO3 because I couldn't be bothered to go on any other website when it is the prominent one people use.
I have made a separate blog in order to keep those who may send me hateful DMs and I don’t exactly want what could be hate mail in my personal DMs because I am arguably a fragile person, and I will absorb the hate until I need to seek a therapist.
I also come from England, where the age of consent laws differs from the State of California, in which it is legal for 16-year-olds to date anyone over 18, so long as they are not in a position of responsibility/authority – like a teacher or an officer[1].
I would also like to point out that I am not against any ship except ones with particular elements I am completely against, such as people who ship blood-related family members (Wincest) or age gaps larger than ten years. However I won't go after people for shipping them, I would block that content so I don't come across it.
If you are curious about the ships that are found in Teen Wolf you are free to follow this link to all the known pairings (platonic and romantic)[2]
EDIT - 14th April '23
I can't reply to comments as this is a side blog so
I realise I didn't talk about the predator and abuse of Isaac aspect, but that wasn't really the focus, I wrote this based on what I have seen on tumblr and twitter and even TikTok(?) and the only thing that really gets brought up is the age and how people who ship these fictional characters are "delusional", but thank you for adding to the discussion!!
Fanfiction is a transformative world. There are endless fandoms and pairings to write about such as those that focus on Formula 1[1] and Real Person Fics (RPFs)[2].
I hope to give a reasoned analysis on the pairings of Teen Wolf and the issues that I am aware of following the release of Teen Wolf: The Movie in January 2023.
This essay will focus on the hypocritical nature of shipping fictional characters with age gaps in Teen Wolf but will have a small comparison to other popular media. There will not be a heavy focus on age but rather than size of the gaps of these fictional characters.
TEEN WOLF'S ORIGINS AND AO3
Teen Wolf[1] originated in 1985s with Michael J. Fox starring as Scott Howard; the original production greenlit two sequels[2] leading MTV to adapt a modern version produced by Jeff Davis in 2011[3]. Teen Wolf has been met with a positive audience in the years of production with favourite seasons including season 3B and Season 5. The show continues to exhibit overwhelming popularity as the years go by as people rewatch it for nostalgia or because they wish to return to comfort episodes.
As with anything that exists, there are people who wish for their favourite characters to have an extended story or they do not agree with what the writers have decided is their fate, such as character death (Derek Hale in Teen Wolf: The Movie). Due to the disagreement viewers have with how their favourites end up, they will turn to fanfiction websites, specifically, in this decade, Archive Of Our Own (AO3)[4].
The AO3 tagging system is a complex aspect of the website but can be understood when the time is taken for people to find suitable fics relatively easily (when the fanfics are tagged properly of course). Tags often include spoilers regarding what is contained in the fanfic, typically “watersports”[5], “dub-con”/”dubious consent”[6], and “misunderstandings”[7]; but the tags could also include the author ‘talking’ to the reader which could include “no beta we die like [character]”[8].
THE STEREK SHIP AND THE POTENTIAL ISSUES
The Teen Wolf fandom contains popular ships such as, Sterek[1], Stydia[2], Stalia[3], Scallision[4], Liam Dunbar/Theo Raeken[5], Berica[6], just to name a few. A lot of pairings include Stiles Stilinski, most likely because Dylan O’Brien’s performance allows Stiles to have a chemistry with anyone he comes into contact with.
The pairing that contains the most fanfics is of course, Sterek; at the time of writing, Sterek contains 70,770 works which according to the last page of the date posted sort by began 26 June 2011[7]. Due to the popularity of the pairing, there is of course an exceptional amount of hate that comes with it, a lot of this hate can simply be found on Tumblr, known as Anti-Sterek(s)[8].
The chief problem that people who consider themselves to be Anti-Sterek have with the pairing is the age gap, Derek Hale is meant to be older than the rest of the main characters, however, it is unknown exactly how old he is meant to be due to the constant changing of his age (shown in the pilot screening presentation script where he was written to be nineteen[9]), but based on the events of that took place before the pilot episode, and for the purposes of this essay, it can be assumed he is around twenty-one to twenty-two at the beginning of the show[10].
Stiles Stilinski has obviously been written to be over sixteen years old, as he holds a valid licence. However, again, it is almost unknown when he turns seventeen due to the discrepancy in the timeline of events and almost contradictory statements made by the Teen Wolf calendar and the Teen Wolf Facebook page[11]; but it can be assumed Stiles turns seventeen during the events of Season 3 (3A and 3B). For the purposes of the writing, it can be assumed Stiles is sixteen during the pilot episode.
I am aware that shipping a sixteen-year-old with someone who is supposed to be (at the maximum) twenty-two is a large problem, however, if you consider reality, there are a lot of people who actively seek out relationships with people who are significantly older than them. When you contemplate actuality there are celebrities who have yet to face repercussions for dating people who are remarkably younger than them; Leonardo DiCaprio, and Sam Taylor-Johnson.
A factor that could be the reason that Sterek is scrutinized is due to the relationship that Kate Argent pursued with Derek when he was fifteen to sixteen. There is a lot of discourse on Tumblr and Twitter and even TikTok comments where fans equate the Sterek ship with that of what Kate did to Derek.
It is reasonable for viewers to abhor the relationship when based on these facts but, it should be remembered that a lot of fanfics involve alternative universes such as those of High School, and College where a lot of characters are specifically written to be the same age. I am not removing the reasoning behind the dislike of Sterek, I just want those who will take the time to read this analysis to realise that there are hypocritical aspects of shipping.
THE OTHER POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC SHIPS OF TEEN WOLF
It cannot be ignored that Sterek is not the only ship that has an age gap, there are viewers of the show who enjoy reading fanfics involving Steter (Peter Hale x Stiles Stilinski)[1]; this ship is also a problematic pairing due to the even larger age gap than that of Sterek’s, and this pairing on AO3 is considered to be the second most popular Teen Wolf ship with (at the time of writing) 10,766 works[2].
If you were to venture onto Tumblr and searched for the Anti-Steter[3] tag you would find less posts than the Anti-Sterek tag, and less frequent postings in general. Based on this, it would appear that there is more hate for Derek than Peter.
Another ship pairing that is more concerning, if fans of the show dislike large age gaps exceeding ten years, would be (Chris Argent x Stiles Stilinski) of which 866 fics are found on AO3[4], this is less than other ships but of course, still an interesting number of fics that have spanned 2012-2023.
The more popular ship containing Stiles and Chris is Stetopher which is a polyamorous ship that also comprises Peter. The works on AO3 are few in number, with only 739 published at the time of writing, these fics began being uploaded in September 2012[5].
This ship should again be scrutinised far more than that of Sterek because of the even larger age gap that exists. As aforementioned, it appears that Derek is greatly disliked due to the awareness of the Sterek ship.
Another ship that fans should be aware of is the Melissa McCall x Stiles Stilinski ship, of which there are 45 works on AO3, starting from November 2012 to 2023[6].
This ship is feasibly far more concerning considering Melissa is Stiles’ best friends’ mother, and undoubtedly this is the most unsettling pairing of all as Melissa would have watched Stiles grow up, and this would therefore be considered grooming.
In sum, the ships involving, Peter Hale, Chris Argent, and Melissa McCall should give rise to far more concern than that of Sterek. Again, this could mean that Derek’s character is far more hated, either because of Derek himself being written as something of an enemy in the first few seasons of the show airing, or because it’s easier to target pairings that are more popular than the other.
OTHER PAIRINGS THAT HAVE LARGE AGE GAPS BUT RECEIVE ALMOST NO HATE
The Vampire Diaries is also a popular show that aired from 2009 until 2017. The premise of the show is a seventeen-year-old Elena Gilbert falls in love with a one-hundred-and sixty-three-year-old. It is common lore that a vampire stops aging once they are turned, however, if people are concerned with age gaps of characters then there should be far more concern over the beloved shows.
Let’s not forget that popular fantasy books, such as that of A Court of Thorns and Roses and the Throne of Glass book series, also contain exceedingly large age gaps, it should not matter how old the characters are when they first meet, it should instead be about how many years apart they actually are. Yet, there is almost no hate found online regarding this aspect. When you compare this notion with that of Teen Wolf’s, there is a hypothetical question that could be raised, is the reason that Sterek is so hated down to it being popular, or is it because it is M/M pairing?
If an age gap is larger than ten years, that is when you should be concerned. I am not really concerned with age gaps in fiction being less than ten years, because it is fictional and I like the dynamic the pairing has, it is very rare that I read fanfics for any media but when I do, it is because I want more from these characters. If people in reality (where it is openly illegal to do so) are in relationships with large age gaps with someone underage, that is when you should troubled.
CONCLUSION
Teen Wolf is a popular show that generates a lot of discourse in the online community, it is probable that there is a heavy hypocritical nature to the pairings that people find. If people were truly concerned with age gaps exceeding two years, they would have more hatred for other ships in the show such as Marrish (Lydia x Parrish); however, it appears that Sterek is hated more due to how popular it is and could also be because Derek was written as a villain, especially in Season 2.
FURTHER POINTS
As stated in the disclaimer, I come from England and I write this with a different attitude, I am aware that the age of consent is eighteen in California, and it is illegal for anyone to leave the state with someone with the intention of having sexual relations. However, Teen Wolf is not real, and if you are getting exceedingly defensive and antagonistic around characters that other people ship and proceed to write long hateful messages to people anonymously on Tumblr to Sterek blogs and those who tag Anti-Sterek with claims that shipping Derek with Stiles is "pedophilic" in fact shows up the Sterek tag.
I expect that I could get hate for this, but I am not defending Sterek, I just hope I pointed out a few problems that I have found, I attempted to do extensive research, but I admit I would get more annoyed about the hypocrisy that I would have found.
I am not against people shipping whatever they want (look at the House of Dragons show) but I personally will not seek out ships that I don’t like and I don’t write hate because what’s the point? It’s not like it’s going to change anything, people enjoy what they enjoy. If you personally attack someone for who they ship, you are a terrible person. If you don’t like something, just block it so you don’t ever see it!!! IT IS THAT SIMPLE!!!
SOURCES
INTRODUCTION
[1] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Formula%201%20RPF/works
[2] https://archiveofourown.org/media/Celebrities%20*a*%20Real%20People/fandoms
TEEN WOLF'S ORIGINS AND AO3
[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090142/
[2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272412/;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094118/
[3] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1567432/
[4] https://archiveofourown.org/
[5] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Watersports/works
[6] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Dubious%20Consent/works
[7] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Misunderstandings/works
[8] https://archiveofourown.org/works/search?work_search%5Bquery%5D=no+beta+we+die+like
THE STEREK SHIP AND THE POTENTIAL ISSUES
[1] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=264659&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[2] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=301210&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[3] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=Stiles+Stilinski%2FMalia+Tate&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[4] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=280222&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[5] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=Liam+Dunbar%2FTheo+Raeken&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[6] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=280222&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[7] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Teen%20Wolf%20(TV)/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=264659&page=3539&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=
[8] https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/anti%20sterek?sort=recent
[9] http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk/Teen_Wolf_1x01_-_Pilot.pdf p. 17
[10] https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/a42596259/teen-wolf-the-movie-cast-ages/
[11] https://www.tumblr.com/cupidsbower/112807545186/how-old-are-the-other-characters-then-stiles
[12] https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tDP1TdIKctNMWD0EsxJzc9LLErJV0jJTE4sKMrMBwCL2QoE&q=leonardo+dicaprio&oq=leona&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i433i512j46i131i199i340i433i465i512j46i131i340i433i512l2j0i20i263i512j0i433i512j69i60.2189j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[13] https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APwXEddzeFoS5DHyEmaO4XJhSdWXbqHpqQ:1681421852321&q=Sam+Taylor-Johnson&si=AMnBZoEofOODruSEFWFjdccePwMH96ZlZt3bOiKSR9t4pqlu2IBZAUCsyQgyLwj0MoQ908Yd_5yfBFTQnKmrTdOBY_oGZMx_iDGadZ7BTbaX1BRN2xJ09_hJbT1ar31kHk-6dwqLOBGvzEIYoQZLvnmd_LzjzLjljhUzrWuM6alU8XkV8NtcXQ5mteAHnosD10Mit8AZSn-qBTOut8iiP9hjTojm_q-T_A%3D%3D&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiInubB6Kf-AhWabcAKHSraDxQQmxMoAHoECB8QAg&biw=803&bih=690&dpr=2
THE OTHER POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC SHIPS OF TEEN WOLF
[1] https://archiveofourown.org/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=297569&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&tag_id=Teen+Wolf+%28TV%29
[2] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Teen%20Wolf%20(TV)/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&include_work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=297569&page=539&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=
[3] https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/anti%20steter?sort=recent
[4] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Teen%20Wolf%20(TV)/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&page=44&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=Chris+Argent%2FStiles+Stilinski&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=
[5] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Chris%20Argent*s*Peter%20Hale*s*Stiles%20Stilinski/works?page=37
[6] https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Teen%20Wolf%20(TV)/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&page=3&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=Melissa+McCall%2FStiles+Stilinski&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=created_at&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=
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Welcome, non-plant beings, my creatures of night and nonsense, my dear audience, to this weird and wonderous collection of mine.
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I promise you won't be told a story with an answer, with some "here's how I fixed my life & the journey it took to get there" I promise that there won't be a "hope to get better" which makes now feel so stark in contrast. I promise I wont make it seem simple or linear or a sudden "aha moment" to make things suddenly seem clear.
What I promise is a story, to the best of my ability, where there are no weeds to pull. no seeds to plant, no fruits to pick. The garden will grow and die, change & cycle back to the beginning. And through it all, in this moment with the dappled sun reflecting off the dew, the weeds in a thick blanket, forgotten fruit as a feast for the birds - we are wild and it is beautiful, no matter how much they want a cultivated, perfectly trimmed and oh-so-stale-garden.
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TL;DR - I'm currently in a Link Click hyperfixation, and I my main WIP is the Land of the Fallen Fairies. I also have a biology fanfiction and a teddy bear nightmare warrior story on the side. And I like being asked about character analysis, whether that be my own characters or any character from this list + characters from LInk Click
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How the fae/faer/faerself pronouns work
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Name's Noor/Noorie btw. Closeted genderfluid and aspec (queer platonic/split attraction model... or whatever this is). Pronouns are they/them, it/its and anything fancy.
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Each of the subsections leads to masterposts for everything! (The intro post got waaayyy tooo long)
The Land of the Fallen Fairies.
A nature-themed commentary on the pursuit of happiness and fixing yourself to deserve that happiness, told by an overthinking, unreliable, houseplant narrator.
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Uquiz
TW: self-hatred, suicidal thoughts, and self-deprecation.
Anuli's story collection.
Anuli's (and my) favorite stories from around tumblr
Jujutsu Kaisen Hyperfixation
As the name suggests, I am hyperfixated. I have also written essays analyzing these characters. Be very afraid. And/or come suffer with me /pos
Also also, for those who don't want to see any JJK smut, this blog should be safe for you! <3 I ship Satosugu but in a... transcend labels, queer platonic flavor sort of way. And I flipflop on itafushi. Either way they are soul mates and transcend labels. Found family dynamics and everlasting friendships/comfort people are peak fiction for me.
Link Click Hyperfixation
They are my everything. They can live in my head rent free foreverrr.
Tumblr's houseplant garden.
Growing a garden of houseplants based off this weird thing called existence, "planted" by others from tumblr.
Fantasy Frog and Toad
A story about two princes cursed to be a frog and toad because they couldn't decide on whether to be self-determined and individualistic, or be traditional and family oriented, because why can't you be both?
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#link click <-- the collection of link click things I shall hoard like a dragon
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#feelings are weird <--- random snippets of Russian Roullet of whether I'll snap or not, along with some sideways spiraling. (this is different from the next tag, but it takes a lot of time to explain how so.)
#I'll fill my grave with fanart <-- doom posting specifically. Apparently I've learned how not to snap and I want to return that but the manager won't answer my phone calls.
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#plant posting <-- whenever I talk about houseplants
#Noorie listens to songs on loop <-- My inconsistent music taste (you get iphone piano ballads... just saying)
#Noorie infodumps. Be very afraid. <--- My rambling tag
#jjk <-- I reblog stuff without tags, so everything of mine that's jjk related will have this tag
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