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#discussion of shipping
prowerprojects · 10 months
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Now wanna come up with cute shipnames for my own rarepairs...
Ok I only ship Tails with 3 people, and each ship is more embarrassing than the other. (Also I'm the only person who ships any of those. Sad) But as the captain it's my duty to give them good names.
Tails x Iggy : uuughhh. This is got to be something Cyberspace or at least Programming/Computer related. But I'm like. Drawing such a blank.
Tails x Zooey: ok yeah I know. I'm the last Tails x Zooey shipper in the world. I have to say I ship them mostly because I have made up a lot of headcanons for them and not from the stuff we've seen in the show itself (that episode... was not good unfortunately), though they have some cute moments. But unfortunately not enough for me to easily come up with anything.
Tails x Sage: Ok. Ok. There's literally so many points you can connect them on that my brain is struggling. I think aesthetically they remind me of a dandelion. Dandelions start off as yellow but then turn white. Idk what it has to do with anything.
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samble-moved · 8 months
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post itself
false flags
trans/adjacent tags
accessibility features
tumblr live post (thanks for the link, @problemnyatic)
flashing / strobing / lights
unblockable flashing ad
buying ad free
staff @/macmanx guilt trip
list of staff + more issues
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descendant-of-truth · 9 months
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Shipping is fun and all but I swear every single time someone makes a comment, whether as a joke or in a legitimate analysis, about there being "no other explanation" for a pair's interactions, I lose just a bit more of my sanity
Like, no, you guys don't get it. Romance is not about the Amount of devotion, it's about the COLOR. the FLAVOR of it all. a character can be just as devoted to their platonic friend as they are to their romantic partner, and they don't love either of them more, just differently.
But because the majority of people still have it stuck in their minds that romance exists on the highest tier of love, I'm stuck seeing endless takes that boil down to "these two care about each other too much for it to NOT be romantic" as if that's the core determining factor to how literally any of this works
In conclusion: stop telling me that I don't understand the story if I don't interpret the leads as romantic, I am TIRED
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redysetdare · 1 month
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All this aroace character shipcourse has proven to me that a majority of people that interact in fandom cannot actually interact with characters and media outside of shipping and genuinely I believe you need to learn how to interact with media outside of shipping.
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emmafrostyyy · 6 months
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y'all sleeping on Astarion/Lae'zel bc this moment is so...the way the flippant demeanor drops and he doesn't hesitate to call her out for sticking with her version of Cazador like their relationship is so underrated fr...
sitting down writing this bullshit like let me peel it like an onion a bit and elaborate why this pairing is fascinating to me
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It's really interesting how during the most cathartic, life-altering moment in Astarion's questline, the reactions of the other companions are more about the moral wrongness/guilt of sacrificing innocent lives. Lae'zel doesn't do that and instead relates to his hurt.
She knows what's he's feeling, the lack of control, the unfairness of being powerless for too long. This is a woman who just found out her entire life purpose was built on lies, discarded and hunted by her own people after outliving her usefulness, and groomed to basically die for an insane power-hungry lich queen. She knows all too well that power isn't always real freedom. Her first instinct is to empathize with Astarion to steer him away from his hate and resentment.
Astarion/Lae'zel is so interesting to me because they're such a classic "can we make each other worse or make a better person out of the other?".
They both have genuine appreciation for violence and respect each other's ruthlessness. Astarion was used as a weapon of seduction while Lae'zel was of warfare. Sex with people is meaningless and not real intimacy for them, and while both have little understanding/experience of interpersonal relationships beyond the physical, they still feel and love very deeply. They have no frame of reference for things like friendship and warmth, but they badly want all of that and more, even if they don't know it yet.
In-game they can sleep with each other, which is basically the foundation of the normal Tav/Astarion romance. Lae'zel saw him during combat and got horny, who knows. Astarion who's used to luring people with his charms, takes up Lae'zel's blunt offer because she's a strong hardened warrior that can provide protection and be a worthy ally, and he doesn't know how to say no. Navigating the complications between one who wants to be seen beyond as a sex object, and one who comes from a totally alien culture with no concept of love/family/connections and only sex is honestly really compelling to me. It's a transactional, mutually beneficial thing with no emotional expectations. Once you get past the skeevy rockiness of their early relationship, I really like the idea of them slowly seeing something past the exterior and realizing they may have harshly misjudged the other, an unspoken friendship blooms, and in comes the realization that they are essentially loners longing for kindness and a comforting touch in the most desperate of situations.
Lae'zel is prideful, direct, has no sense of courtship talk, and doesn't hold back her thoughts the slightest--she's not sweet/agreeable and what you see is really what you get, which I imagine would be disarming for Astarion who's used to vacuous flattery and has difficulty trusting others. But she's also insanely protective, passionate, loyal, and an initiator-- every romance scene is triggered by her first and she's always showing effort towards her relationships, which would mesh well with Astarion who does need someone to nudge him.
She doesn't purposely suppress her feelings, she's just simply at loss at how to express them sometimes due to her wildly different upbringing. She stops the sparring match you agree to and an easy vulnerability slips instantly out of her: "I don't want to hurt you. I want to protect you, and for you to protect me." and "Thus far I've taunted you, devoured you, battled you. Now I want more than anything to soothe you." are romantic as fuck and Astarion of all people really needs to hear that tbh.
Astarion is also someone who struggles with reinforcing his boundaries, and a key theme in Lae'zel's romance is that she encourages and wants you to challenge her and learn to stand your ground. It's not gentlest method, but hey, relationships are about having to make an effort to learn each other's language.
I think he also would take pleasure "educating her on the matters of Fay-run" (I believe there's a whole banter with him teasing her and teaching her pet names) and would get a kick out of coaxing Lae'zel out of her shell with her shyness at showing public affection, and making her blush. Also it simply would be fucking funny to see Astarion who's used to easy seduction, trying to pass a persuasion check just to get a smooch and generally having to work to earn regular kisses from Lae'zel lmfaooo
Lae'zel also initially struggles to see her chains as chains. When she learns about Vlaakith's betrayal, she copes instantly through denial and shuts it down. Astarion is NOT having it and calls her out, he knows her well enough to recognize that she would value blunt honesty above all.
I imagine he also despises her lack of self-preservation, the way her entire identity is tied to duty and being in service of others, and doesn't understand her desire to still help/liberate the people that want her dead and are hunting her down. He wants to make this duty-bound soldier realize that looking out for herself, and putting herself first may not be the worst thing in the world.
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They're so similar to each other but are also polar opposites in some ways that make a more equal, balanced romance I think. It's not a simple, one-sided, feel-good "she/he can fix her/him" fantasy because both of them have to earn each other's love, actually cut through the other's flaws, and actively motivate each other to be better versions of themselves.
They're not at all the other's ideal guiding hand. It's rough, jagged, and imperfect, but that's how healing goes. It's so far from being the healthiest relationship -- but even if their belief systems differ, their moral compass does often align. I imagine it's a slight relief for them to have a partner where there would be less shame and judgment when they expectedly, occasionally slip up and fall into their bad habits.
Also, man, the "You showed me the betweens and beyonds. Beyond war and peace, beyond passion and obsession, most importantly, you showed me freedom.", "First you were my wound, now you were my cure.", "But you saw something else in me - someone else I could be. Someone who could break the cycle of power and terror that started centuries ago.." lines really hit hard when applied to them.
Of course, they can also make each other worse, feed into the other's negative traits that will bring out the worst part of themselves. It's this duality of their pairing that is very interesting to explore, the way it can steer in either direction because it's an intense, fraught relationship at its core.
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ripplerain · 1 month
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treasured rival
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nyipi · 3 months
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Alastor was all over the place in ep 5. I dont know why he was already so pissed off at Lucifer's arrival and so quick to be provoked. Idk if it's a problem with the show's pacing or if it's a hint at the nature of Alastor's disappearance/own soul being under contract. Because the writers DID put this topic at the forefront this episode so i can only assume it's all connected.
My personal take is Lilith has him leashed and Alastor HATES not having his own freedom, and by association he hates the living fuck out of Lucifer. (He doesn't seem to hate Charlie at least or have grown to stand by her dreams)
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sweggyq · 6 months
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Bombs your photo <3 <3
Enjoy the Aubrey x Basil dump :>
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wellship · 2 years
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SanAce online friends AU
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prowerprojects · 10 months
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Heh, it somehow wouldn't surprise me if Sage ends up with more interactions with Cream or Omega, than she ever does with Tails.
Right? Even how Sonic praises Tails with him giving credit where credit is due, versus any praise Eggman gives Sage [and other creations of his] just comes back the doctor patting himself on the back. Sonic would never restrict Tails, even if their mindsets are not align at times. Eggman WILL do that if anything he made crosses or challenges him. (And I can see Tails pitying that, even vowing to never do that with his [and adopted] inventions. Sentient or not. Maybe extending a hand to Sage? {Likely to no avail, but the door is always open}.)
Technopathy vs gadgets? Sounds like a good means for a fight. Or sparring. Whatever they're feeling at the moment.
Speaking as someone who doesn't particularly care for romance in media where it's not the main focus and can get burnt out when it bleeds over the original context; be it in canon or fanon, I totally get it. (Whether the bond between characters is platonic or romantic, I care about chemistry the most in either scenario. Cause even if someone doesn't ship certain ships, they can understand why these characters have the connection that they have and why it's beloved in fandom. That said, this will not stop me from side-eyeing those who think Sonic and Amy getting together means Sonic and Tails' bond just drops off into oblivion.)
True, I mean usually with smart characters, they do have their own personal social circle that's either a means to feel "more among their people", to decompress from their usual life, or opens their eyes to the world in a down-to-earth state. (This isn't to say it's not done with the friends he already has, but definitely not done enough to leave a noticeable impression in the fandom. Professor Pickles is a start, but it needs to expand from there to really flesh him out. And who knows, those experiences can end up inspiring future creations of his.)
Awww man! But I suppose I would love for Cream and Omega to have more relevancy, so... I'll just have to take it. (And I would love for Tails to interact with them more as well, you'd think based on their character roles they would, but... not really?)
Right... while they have similar issues, they're in different situations. Like. Yeah, Tails does focus a lot of his self-esteem on Sonic's opinion on him, but we also know that Sonic thinks that Tails is the coolest person in the world (Even if he doesn't always express it in the ways that get through to Tails, I don't think Sonic fully realizes how important it is to Tails (when you think someone is really cool, you wouldn't think they consider themselves a failure), and he's just not the kind of person that talks about his feelings a lot. But when he does realize that Tails needs reassurance, he's happy to provide).
While Sage seeks love and connection with Eggman, but his relationship to his robots is like. If you're doing good, it's because you were made by a genius. If you're doing bad, it's your fault and I wasted my time and resources on making you. (Not unlike how a lot of parents treat their children irl unfortunately)
However, he doesn't really treat them as children, Eggman sees his creations as beneath him and as the means to an end, perfectly ready to change their programming if they don't perform the way he wants them to, take them apart for parts, or just straight up scrap them. Irl, this is what you would do with a machine, but since we know that they are sentient, it takes on a different light. He does however acknowledge Sage as a daughter.
But even if we imagine that he would treat Sage better than the others, it would still have an impact on her. For example, she had already accepted Orbot and Cubot as her siblings, what would she think when she sees him hitting them? I'm afraid this has the potential to evolve into a golden child/scapegoat dynamic.
It's a pity that despite technically being the Good Counterpart to Eggman at least when mechanical skills are concerned, we rarely see Tails expressing opinions on the way he treats his creations (or at least contrast it with the way Tails treats the ex-Eggman robots like Omega and Gemerl), and this is one of the reasons why I'm hoping for an exploration of the Tails & Sage dynamic. (Though I also miss Tails being impressed by Eggman's creations/achievements, it added an interesting angle to their dynamic. Adaptations often give Tails "mentors" in engineering/scientific fields (one thing Sonic can't be too much of help with), and while I think it's sweet, I also think it's kind of cool that in canon Tails doesn't really have anyone to look up to in that department other than the man he hates the most. Fun stuff)
(Personally have a headcanon that Tails would never try to create a self-aware ai on purpose. Just because of the way Eggman treats his, and because bringing a sentient being into the world just so they could serve you just doesn't seem like something Tails would do. (Maybe if he just wanted to also make a kid for himself, or just tried to do it to see if he could. But not to subject them to a life of servitude. (Actually one of the reasons why I don't vibe with the "Tails created Omochao" headcanon, even if Omochao is a force of nature at this point and cannot be contained)
Yep. I don't imagine Sage would engage in direct combat, but if we do have a fight with her, it's an easy way to do it. Plus, could be interesting to explore outside of the gameplay elements too.
Yeah, I really enjoy the way Sonic media, when it does acknowledge romance, does it very lightly. Partially because I really enjoy the relationships that thither on the verge of romantic and platonic for being their own thing, but usually in media it's just a precursor for the relationship turning unambiguously romantic, which is not as fun to me. Sometimes characters getting together kills the reasons why I enjoyed the relationship in the first place and turns a very nuanced and interesting one into stereotypical romance roles (This happens in fanworks constantly, but there's a difference between fans just having fun and it becoming canon. Funny you should bring up Sonamy, because I quite like the direction they're taking with them in canon, but I almost never read fic because I almost never see their dynamic written the way I personally enjoy it)
Really? I don't think I've noticed, but I suppose it makes sense. I'm always up for Tails having more friends!
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another-goblin · 10 days
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Based on that new video
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"And btw there is a good logical reason why I carry his photo in my wallet! It's not what you think!" "Wait what photo?…"
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very-feral-lesbian · 2 years
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been thinking a lot about how ashamed i used to be for using ao3 and tumblr. but like ao3 survives solely off of user support and dedication to fandom, that shits beautiful.
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mxtxfanatic · 12 days
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Fandom Gripe #23: I know that fandom is in some deep denial about its treatment of female characters that are canonically involved with fan favorite m/m ships, but do y’all realize that when you disappear female characters from the narrative wholesale to push the idea that your canonically straight fav was “secretly gay all along!” you’re making several bad implications? That 1) bi men don’t exist, 2) bi men do exist, but those who have genuinely loved a woman before cannot genuinely love a man after that (therefore bi men don’t exist in practice), 3) women cannot inspire genuine love and devotion in men, therefore any relationship with a woman is “lesser” than the one they later have a man (see previous parenthesis), or 4) to acknowledge the existence of a lovable woman who isn’t a terrible person, where if a relationship previously existed, it did not end because of “incompatibility,” is enough to destabilize the present relationship between two queer men?
Because why is the tgcf fandom allergic to acknowledging that He Xuan had a whole ass fiancée that he loved? Why does no one ever seem to remember that the kidnappings and murders of He Xuan’s sister and fiancée were the final straws that sent him on his rampage, and he still keeps a shrine to them in the present-day of the story? Why is her entire existence and significance to He Xuan as a man, character, and to his character arc disappeared in favor of pushing Shi Qingxuan—the brother of the man responsible for his fiancée’s death—into that same role, as if to say that her impact on He Xuan is significant... just not when it's from her? Why does He Xuan’s life in fandom essentially begin not just after her death but because of it?
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lunarharp · 2 months
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What led to this (orufrey comic, cw an uncomfortable/creepy scene)
#witch hat tag#orufrey#er.... i'm too tired to have anything to say..i worked several days on this.#wait.. didn't i say just recently here that i probably wouldn't ever depict 'what if alaira is qifrey's sort-of ex'. What's going on#i don't even remember deciding to draw this..it's all a blur..i'm not sure why i WOULD decide to draw delicate scenes in my head#that i wouldn't really want to share with anyone/discuss so why did i draw it...#some part of me really really wants to draw things that are more and more true to myself...#maybe because of my alienation with most romance/shipping/dynamics the rest of the world depicts.#orufrey really is perfectly suited to me - what i read in the text and what is in my head. well anyway#i am TIRED of drawing poses and angles and..maybe now i will actually take a break from drawing bc of the tediousness of Angles#btw it really is a 'stretch of time' . . . assuming witches graduate age 18-20#well orufrey are canonically 30-ish. they've only had agott around for presumably about TWO years (?) bc she took the test age 10#and it feels like oru moving in/unknown atelier acquisition/building (?) .. i guess that could be a year or so before agott at most#(she was the first disciple) so... ????????? What about the other 7 or so years ?!?!?!!?!?! Unemployed Brimhat Hatred era#that time is very nebulous. after qifrey went to the tower i feel like it's been implied he and oru drifted apart a little.#certainly they didn't live together at first... no way. that doesn't feel like how it is based on things oru has said about becoming Eye#idk. I'm tired now. i don't usually think of alaira as necessarily qifrey's ex and this being how things went in that 'sliver of time'.#i usually prefer the idea that they have their first kiss with each other in their 30s cause That's Just The Orufrey Lifestyle#just felt like making a more relatable alternative view of my own Cai Orufrey Canon one time. btw im a big monoshipper and it hurt a bit#let's leave it there. this is surely the most i've worked on a 'single' art - though now i realise just how much longer the fic took :')
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moeitsu · 9 days
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If your only argument for shipping Arthur and John is “well they’re not real” stay the hell away from me.
I’m not even going to get into why IT IS incest. But here’s my take nonetheless:
Shipping incestuous relationships, even among fictional characters, is ethically problematic. It normalizes taboo behaviors and can distort perceptions of healthy relationships. Incest is universally recognized as harmful due to the potential for exploitation, abuse, and genetic risks. Romanticizing such relationships in fiction risks trivializing these serious issues. Choosing to ship incestuous relationships, even in fiction, perpetuates a harmful misconception and undermines the effort to cultivate a respectful and understanding narrative.
Misinterpreting a familial bond between characters raised as siblings as romantic chemistry reflects a misunderstanding of a healthy adult relationship.
It's important to be able to distinguish between different types of relationships. Such as recognizing the boundaries between familial love and romantic love. When people romanticize these sibling-like relationships, it blurs these distinctions. And it creates misconceptions about appropriate relationship dynamics.
This misinterpretation underscores the need for highlighting the role of media literacy in appreciating diverse human connections. Portraying and perceiving these characters' relationship as romantic undermines the value of familial bonds and may foster unrealistic expectations in adult relationships. It's crucial for audiences to acknowledge and respect the various meaningful connections that extend beyond romantic narratives.
I’m sorry if this reads like an essay, but as someone who’s taken media literacy classes in college and grown up in the Superwholock fandom, I have a lot to say on this topic. Engaging with fandoms and media since a very young age has deepened my understanding of how narratives influence societal norms and personal perceptions. It’s fascinating yet concerning to witness how certain portrayals in media can impact a fans interpretations and behaviors.
I want this to be open for discussion, because I think it’s important to promote a healthy and thoughtful consumption of media. As well as contribute to healthier representations and relationships in media and storytelling.
That’s it, goodnight, sleep tight, and be kind.
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“dni if you’re problematic” is level 95 middle schooler behavior btw. “problematic” by what standards? my brother in christ, you’ve got to be more specific. but I can promise you that you are also “problematic” in some people’s opinions whether it be online or irl, whether or not you know it. unless you’re a literal saint who’s never done anything wrong, ever, in your life, I guarantee you this; you are also “problematic” in someone’s opinions. I am problematic in someone’s opinions. every single one of us is problematic in someone’s story, sorry to break it to you though.
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