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Julietogender or julietigender: A form of julietian (WLM) duarigender, sentiogender, affinitive condigender, and orientationgender, describing someone who only feels womanhood or femininity through their attraction to men.
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Language can change how we view and classify attraction. Let's take a look at platonicism.
If platonic = friendship, thus being synonymous with amical (yes, I know some make amical to be a "best friend" thing, but if that kind of hierarchy withing a same kind of love, friendship in this case, makes no sense to me), then I'm dark grey aplatonic and apothiplatonic.
But if platonic =/= friendship, thus being distinct to amical. If it's defined as a specific type of alterous attraction, then I'm orchid-demiplatonic and apothi dark greyamical.
I'm aplspec in both cases, but the microlabel I use is different.
My label change depending on how definition of "platonic" we are talking about. In English speaking spaces, the "friendship" meaning is more common, but because what "platonic" as a concept means changes within languages, how it's applied to attraction may also change. In Spanish "platonic" has the connotation of "impossible" or "unrequited", so a "platonic attraction" would be an attraction that cannot be acted on.
For friendship-based platonic attraction we say "atracción de amistad" (amical attraction), and for platonic-as-a-specif-type-of-alterous attraction we say "atracción de arrobamiento/arrobativa" (squish attraction) or "atracción afectiva" (that can be translated as "affectional/affective attraction". Take into account that in English Affectional is a less common synonym for affinitive in attraction/orientation context, and basically means gender-based. That's not what it means in Spanish)
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Defintion of Tertiary Attraction under cut
Taken form the Tertiary Attraction Wiki(link) : “Non-rose or tertiary attraction is an umbrella term originating in the aroace communities which describes forms of attraction besides romantic and sexual attractions, or besides physical and emotional.
For individuals who are not a-spec, a partnership may involve many or all forms of attraction. When one or more form of attraction is not experienced, such as with aromantic and asexual individuals, it may become easier to identify more specific forms of attraction.
Aroaces who experience nonsexual/nonromantic attraction may identity as oriented aroace or angled aroace, or may simply use another orientation label in addition to aromantic and asexual.
An individual who experiences tertiary attraction may use the term orientated to express it as their identity without necessarily using the split attraction model or another specific amative or affinitive orientation, as well as orientationless.
Specific orientation labels can be derived from each attraction type using any of the prefixes used for sexual or romantic attractions. For example, one may be bisensual, meaning they experience sensual attraction towards individuals of two or more genders.
Individuals who do not experience tertiary attraction may identify as atertiary or nontertiary. Aroace individuals who do not experience tertiary attraction may identify as electioaroace or anattractional.”
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eldorr · 6 months
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then whats the difference between monofluid and monospec abro? i really thought that the affinitive part was static while fluid between others (amative)
Honestly don't think there'd be much of a difference between them at all, similar to how when people use Abro instead of a fluctuating label like Aceflux. I personally tend to regard Abro as a fluid orientation instead of being BOTH fluid/fluctuating, so that'd where most of my definitions regarding Abro come from.
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flexuality-edits · 1 year
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Flexibility is Queer || Pinned Post
While uncommon to see used in online queer communities today, heteroflexible and homoflexible were - and still are, in other spaces - fairly common labels to describe one's orientation. Unlike many other terms, online queer communities seemingly abandoned these instead of expanding them. This blog aims to do so.
Banner: Xenxicflexible (through Zoric), Avatar: Uranicflexible (through Neptunian)
What is flexibility?
Flexibility is an expression of being one orientation, yet also experiencing another type of orientation at times.
There are many ways this can manifest, such as a straight man who is attracted to only hyper-feminine men, or a non-binary person who is typically attracted to other non-binary people, but sometimes finds themselves attracted to binary individuals.
Another example is a bisexual woman who has had traumatic experiences in relationships with men, who may identify as homoflexible due to her hetero attraction being more circumstantial and cautious. It can also be a way of describing differing attraction types without the Split Attraction Model: Someone who may be homoromantic bisexual could identify instead as homoflexible.
Flexibility is a different label than bi-orientation (& multispec) and abro-orientation, but they aren't mutually exclusive. It is, however, inappropriate to imply someone who identifies with flexibility that they should identify as bi or abro instead. Even if you, in their situation, would consider yourself bi or abro, that doesn't mean they want to.
Flexibility is typically considered amative (describing how one's attraction manifests), but may also be affinitive (describing what one is attracted to).
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Tertiary Attraction Archive
(AKA eriattraction, non-rose attraction)
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Archive for tertiary / non-rose / eriattraction terms: Types of attraction other than romantic and sexual attraction. Tertiary, meaning third, originates from them being additional identities along the Split Attraction model. Eriattraction comes from "erilainen", a Finish word meaning "different". Non-Rose comes from the first letters in romantic and sexual, and brings up imagery of typical courtship.
Tertiary-based relationships may be partnerships, or they may simply be bonds. While some consider their tertiary attraction as polyamorous, an attraction and bond applying to multiple individuals is the norm for many types of tertiary attraction. Platonic attraction and relationships, for example, are typically non-exclusive by default.
How To Use Tertiary Terminology
Tertiary attraction types can be used in the same way as romantic and sexual ones. A few examples:
Monogamous Panplatonic (Platonic bonding with only one individual at a time, who can be of any gender.)
Touch-Favorable Asensual (Being asensual, and also okay or happy to be touched.)
Homoaesthetic Bisexual (Mspec mono identity, where one is aesthetically attracted only similar-gender individuals, but sexually attracted to all individuals.)
Tagging System
Main Tags -
Attraction Types
Reaction Types*
Orientation Label
Interaction Stance
Combo Label
Gender
Exclusive Term
*Non-attraction orientated labels, such as affial.
Secondary Tags -
Affinitive
Oriangled
Heterospec
Homospec
Enbyspec
Multispec
Allospec
Aspec
Abrospec
Combospec
Amative
(Aspec)
Fluid
Flux
Flip
Vague
Relational
Polyam
Monogam
Attraction Types -
Tertiary
Unlabelic*
Neoattraction**
Alteraffectis Sublabel
Quadrantic (Homestuck)
Search using the Attraction Types Notion (run by @revenant-coining) as reference.
*Attraction types that are purposefully vague or represent "generic" attraction. **Attraction types based on neoumbrellas.
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soong-type-notinuse · 2 years
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numerative orientation (attraction/affinity/interest/etc)
a term to describe how many genders someone is oriented towards, goes together with amative orientation (how often/under which circumstances someone experiences attraction/affinity/interest/etc) and affinitive orientation (which genders someone is oriented towards).
people might think this is the same as affinitive orientation, but it's not. "lesbian", meaning queerness for women, is an affinitive label, describing which gender one is oriented towards. but it doesn't specify how many genders, be it different fiaspec genders or other genders besides women. most people just assume that lesbians are oriented towards one gender, because monosexism tells us that mono-orientation is the norm.
similarly, "bi" specifies orientation to more than one gender, making it a numerative orientation, while it doesn't specify which genders one is oriented towards. people just tend to assume that it's men and women.
of course there are labels that are both numerative and affinitive, such as pan ("which genders?" - all genders. "how many? - all of them) or aromantic ("which genders?" - none. "how many?" - zero.) (and aromanticism is amative too - "how often?" - never.)
so, someone who only uses bi as a label only has a numerative label, but not an amative or affinitive one (people just assume that bi is inherently allo), someone who only uses veldian only has an affinitive label and not an amative or numerative one (people just assume that veldian means allo and mono) and someone who only uses demi as a label only has an amative label, but not an affinitive or numerative one.
i coined this because it's an axis of orientation that, similarly to aspecness, often gets ignored, because people assume "mono" when someone doesn't specify how many genders they're oriented towards. in the same way that "amative" exists to combat allosexism and the idea of "allo until proven otherwise", i coined "numerative" to combat monosexism and the idea of "mono until proven otherwise".
a personal example:
my amative orientations are greyalterous and asexual. these describe how often and/or under which circumstances i feel affinity (/attraction/interest/etc.) (rarely (alterous), never (sexual).
my affinitive orientations are pansensual, asexual, lesbian, veldian, cypric, trixic and toric. these describe which genders i am oriented towards. (all genders in a queer/gay way (sensual) and none (sexual).
my numerative orientations are bi, pan, mspec and pluralian. these describe how many genders i am oriented towards (more than one, multiple, all).
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varioriented-pride · 3 years
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Hey! Could I use uranic as a term to describe my alterous attraction cuz I'm AroAce?
of course yes. just as the term urancurious exists, I guess you can use uranalterous to specifically describe your experience. or you can use uranic aroace
oriented aroace works with affinitive orientations that you find significant to describe your case.
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momma-mogai-sphinx · 4 years
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Asexual - Someone who does not experience sexual attraction.
Autigender - A gender which can only be understood in the context of being autistic.
Agender - Having a neutral gender or no gender.
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entity9silvergen · 2 years
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Hey I saw the thing you shared with mspect culture-is And I wanted to ask something out of friendly curiosity.
How's that possible to be m-spec Acearo? And what does that mean to you?
I'm fully aware of "how" in technicality. Any label can work with any label, cuz the only point in labels is to find community and make sense of yourself. And it's also something that can be very personal, so feel free to ignore this, you won't hurt my feelings.
And if there something on your blog that already explains this, I'm going to see it after I send the ask I just didn't think to until I was done typing.
I hope you have a lovely day 💕
I don't mind the question! And thank you for being so respectful about it.
Are you familiar with the split attraction model? Essentially it's the idea that separates romantic attraction from sexual attraction but there are forms of attraction that are not sexual or romantic. These are referred to with the umbrella term tertiary attraction. Some examples of tertiary attraction are aesthetic attraction, platonic attraction, queerplatonic attraction, alterous attraction, and many more.
Aroace specifically means you do not experience sexual or romantic attraction. The phrase does not indicate you cannot experience a form of tertiary attraction, though not every single person experiences every type of tertiary attraction.
Oriented aroace is an identity where someone who does not experience sexual or romantic attraction experiences a form of tertiary attraction in a way that is significant to them. The term oriented aroace is put alongside an affinitive orientation (a word that indicates what gender(s) someone is attracted to such as gay, lesbian, or bi). Sometimes, an amative orientation (a word that indicates how someone experiences a form of attraction such as demi, gray, or fray) is used alongside a form of tertiary attraction but that is less common.
For example, an aroace woman/ fem-aligned person who likes other women/ fem-aligned could identify as lesbian-oriented aroace or sapphic-oriented aroace. Some other common ones are bi-oriented aroace, pan-oriented aroace, and gay-oriented aroace. If someone wanted to add an amative orientation, they could say something like biplatonic-oriented aroace or homoaesthetic-oriented aroace.
Mspec, while being an umbrella term, is an affinitive orientation. In the past, I have played around with words like pan, bi, and spectra to describe my orientation but I now prefer broader terms like mspec, achillean, or queer to describe my attraction.
Being aroace is an important part of my identity but solely saying aroace doesn't describe my full orientation so I prefer to say oriented aroace, usually mspec-oriented aroace or achillean-oriented aroace. To me, it just means that I am aroace but I am still attracted to multiple genders, just not sexually or romantically.
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imoga-pride · 2 years
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i think i spammed ur notifs with likes a bit im sorry !!
so im unlabeled but specifically as in i do feel some level of sexual attraction towards women but i dont want to label it as either acespec or allo. sexually im a lesbian but neither an ace nor an allo one. do you know of any terms for that type of unlabeled ? or just a better way to phrase it ?
I know schrö- which means being both a- and allo-. I can't remember myself a term that means being neither without being acespec. However, I know people who use non-SAM or semi-SAM (split attraction model) in the sense of being unlabeled sexually. Take a look in the term neu aro. Also, it's important to see that lesbian is an affinitive orientation, that doesn't specify how are you attracted nor the form of attraction (sexual, romantic, etc.).
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Amative/Affinitive Pride Flags
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Amative orientations: any orientation that dooes not describe the gender(s) one is or is not attracted to, but instead describe how one experiences attraction. Eg. conditional/circumstantial/situational asexuality (demisexuality, fraysexuality...), partial aromanticism (mesi/grey aromantic...), null platonicity (suptilic aplatonicism...), refero-, chameleo-, etc.
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Affinitive or affectional orientations: any orientations that describe which gender(s) one is or is not attracted to. Eg. multi-, mono-, juvelic terms.
Not every orientation is inherently this or the other, but they are useful umbrella terms. Sometimes they are intertwined, other times some may emphasize one over another, questioning and undefined people may don't know which one they have, amplusic (fluid/flux/flex) people may navigate through both and other possibilities.
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gendertherapist · 4 years
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Concept for organizing genders
I’ve always been aware that some xenogenders seem to be in a different category than other xenogenders, but I haven’t been able to fully describe it until now. I recently heard of affinitive and amative orientations, and I think something similar can be applied to genders:
Affinitive genders: Genders that describes what they feel like. This can include explaining how it is (or is not) related to masculinity, femininity, neutrality, etc. Or, in the case of xenogenders, it examples the concepts or feeling that one’s associates with this gender. 
Examples of affinitive genders include: binary man/woman, non-binary, neutrois, maverique, agender, juparian, cenrell, jouine, icecreamgender, naturecoric.
Amative genders: Genders that describe how they are felt. For a hypothetical example a gender that feels “larger than all other genders”. It does not explain what exactly that gender is, only that it is larger than other genders. It does not specify what the gender is, what it feels like, or how it related to gender concepts. Amative genders are almost always able to be combined with affinitive genders. 
Examples of amative genders include: genderflux, bigender, frictogender, absorgender, all aerogenders.
When an amative and affinitive gender are combined they make an affinitive gender. For example, demigender, as a concept on it’s own, would be amative, but when combined to make demigirl, demiboy, etc. it’s affinitive.
There does seem to be a grey area between these categories. For example, genderfluid does not seem to neatly fit into either category. Where genderfluid falls would depend on how specific you want to get with your gender. Also, some xenogenders can possibly be both such as cealgender which can either be a gender that is cold, in the same way male is masculine (affinitive) or it could be a modifier (ie: cealgirl) to show how another gender is felt (amative).
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lgbtqiarchive · 4 years
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Voidaffectional/voidattractional: not defining yourself through attractions or affections.
Voidaffinitive: not defining yourself with affinitive orientations; when your affinitive attraction is a void
Voidamative: not having amative orientations; when amativity is a void.
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neolabels · 5 years
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Orientation Umbrella Terms
I was thinking and came to the realization that there’s no real distinction between orientations such as homoromantic and demiromantic, even though those describe totally different ways of attraction. Lumping them together has its flaws, so I created my own labels to distinguish them from each other when coining orientations.  
Affinitive orientations: Orientations describing what genders you’re attracted to, such as bisexual, pansexual, asexual, lesbian, gay, etc. Named for having an affinity for a given gender.  Amative orientations: Orientations describing how you’re attracted to a person. Examples include demi-,  weort- , mellow-, and fray-. 
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Tertiary Attraction Archive
(AKA eriattraction, non-rose attraction)
Archive for tertiary / non-rose / eriattraction terms: Types of attraction other than romantic and sexual attraction. Tertiary, meaning third, originates from them being additional identities along the Split Attraction model. Eriattraction comes from "erilainen", a Finish word meaning "different". Non-Rose comes from the first letters in romantic and sexual, and brings up imagery of typical courtship.
Tertiary-based relationships may be partnerships, or they may simply be bonds. While some consider their tertiary attraction as polyamorous, an attraction and bond applying to multiple individuals is the norm for many types of tertiary attraction. Platonic attraction and relationships, for example, are typically non-exclusive by default.
How To Use Tertiary Terminology
Tertiary attraction types can be used in the same way as romantic and sexual ones. A few examples:
Monogamous Panplatonic
(Platonic bonding with only one individual at a time, who can be of any gender.)
Touch-Favorable Asensual
(Being asensual, and also okay or happy to be touched.)
Homoaesthetic Bisexual
(Mspec mono identity, where one is aesthetically attracted only similar-gender individuals, but sexually attracted to all individuals.)
Tagging System
Main Tags -
Attraction Types
Reaction Types*
Orientation Label
Interaction Stance
Combo Label
Gender
Exclusive Term
*Non-attraction orientated labels, such as affial.
Secondary Tags -
Affinitive
Oriangled
Heterospec
Homospec
Enbyspec
Multispec
Allospec
Aspec
Abrospec
Combospec
Amative
(Aspec)
Fluid
Flux
Flip
Vague
Relational
Polyam
Monogam
Attraction Types -
Tertiary
Unlabelic*
Neoattraction**
Alteraffectis Sublabel
Quadrantic (Homestuck)
Search using the Attraction Types Notion [Link] (run by revenant-coining) as reference.
*Attraction types that are purposefully vague or represent "generic" attraction.
**Attraction types based on neoumbrellas.
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