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kateeorg · 1 year
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The Marvels: Kamala as a Reflection of Young Monica
It suddenly occurred to me, watching The Marvels trailer, but Monica meeting Kamala is going to be fascinating, because Kamala is, in many ways, a lot like young Monica. And yet, isn't.
As a kid, Monica adored her Aunt Carol and wanted to be just like her and her mom, admiring her powers and all the good she was doing. Monica wanted to go to space and be a hero too, which is why she joined SWORD under her mom's leadership, and returned so quickly after she Blipped and learned her mother had passed.
But Monica's grown up now. She's a military-trained professional. And Wandavision indicates that at some point, she and Carol had a falling out and, while she's more like Carol than ever, I doubt Monica is happy about that currently. We don't really know yet how long she's had her powers, we don't know how she feels about them, yet. But it wouldn't surprise me if she only really regards them as tools, and tries not to think too hard or "marvel" too much at them.
Not to mention, Carol reminds her of the mother she lost, the family she had that is broken. And I have a feeling that whatever happened between them has something to do with Maria Rambeau's final years and death.
Meanwhile, Kamala is still young. She wants so badly to be like Captain Marvel and be an Avenger, too. And she's more like her hero than ever as well, but hasn't lost that admiration yet, which is likely going to be frustrating for Monica to deal with.
Especially because Kamala only knows Captain Marvel as a distant superhero, post-Snap. Monica knew Carol before the powers, before Thanos. She loved Captain Marvel before Captain Marvel was known on Earth. And it was that woman that let her down, not the cultural icon she became afterwards. That has to be hard for Monica- to see all these people admiring Captain Marvel for things Monica wasn't around to witness (since she was snapped), meanwhile she knows Carol is all too human. And Kamala, Ms. Marvel herself, seems like the pinnacle of that fandom that has sprung up around Carol post-snap.
At the same time, Kamala's powers come from her own cultural legacy, not from an accident like Monica's or Carol's. She's had time to make her own identity, and she has her own, supportive family unit, separate from Carol and SWORD/SABER and heroing. She's had time to work out those family issues in her own show. So in some ways, Kamala is actually in a healthier place than Monica is, despite being younger and more naive. Sure, she still admires Captain Marvel, but her identity isn't quite as based in that as it was at the beginning of Ms. Marvel.
In that sense, Kamala's perspective might be just what Monica needs, and I'm as fascinated to see those two interact as I am for Monica-Carol and Kamala-Carol.
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tremorsmackenzie · 7 months
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alright, i just watched the marvels, here are my thoughts. spoilers below the cut.
Disclaimer: I don't think it was good, but I'm mostly indifferent towards it.
i went into this movie with no expectations, i literally just watched the trailer today and managed to avoid any spoilers or the trashing it received elsewhere. i watched the required stuff except for ms marvel.
Basically, it had all the same problems as secret invasion. Almost no exposition or set-up or even context in some cases for anything, emotional payoffs to nothing, they just moved from one scene to the next with no "glue" to hold them together, it basically felt like a very long trailer. as if they had a much longer movie and cut out everything that wasnt essential to follow the main plotline. everything is only as long as it needs to be to fill that role. like how they just moved through their plotpoints in secret invasion without actually moving the story there.
im not gonna criticize its content in detail because of all of the above. nothing anyone does or says makes any kind of sense, its all very movie-ey, theres no immersion.
the movie doesnt know whether its a comedy or a drama, like the storyline is very dramatic and sad, and there are moments where the characters react to that, but a minute later it goes into sitcom territory, and thats the vast majority of it. the characters themselves dont even take it seriously. there are the hints of a self-loathing storyline with carol, but thats really it.
the villains motivations are explained, and actually not even that badly written, but she suddenly goes from a typically kree mindset of solving problems with genocide to specifically targeting carol in a very personal way for not really any reason thats explained.
there is no follow-up to secret invasion or the skrulls on earth or the mcu at large. the conflicts that arose from captain marvel and wandavision are adressed, briefly.
in my opinion, this is the worst movie marvel has made, not because its exactly bad, but because it barely qualifies as a movie. if you like kamala khan, you might enjoy it, she gets a pretty good spotlight as far as i can tell, but outside of that its just not there.
its good that marvel are basically taking a break on movies, cause they need it.
edit: oh kate bishop showed up at the end, that was a nice surprise. i miss her, she needs to get so much more attention.
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tarragonthedragon · 10 months
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Cyclops gets such a rough deal man. imagine having brain damage that caused you to uncontrollably shoot laser blasts out of your eyeballs destroying everything in sight that you had to worry about literally 24/7 and also you had to supervise teenagers throwing cars at each other because your father figure and his ex are taking leftist infighting to the streets and also on top of that whenever you show any amount of concern over this situation people are like "jeez what a buzzkill. loosen up control freak. why can't you be all chill and cool like wolverine" meanwhile wolverine is having his amygdala forcibly removed by the us military for the third time this month
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Reblog your own posts. Like all the time if you want.
This site isn't algorithmic sometimes if you miss it you just miss it.
But reblog your old fics and old pieces. Reblog your own funny text posts. It's not embarrassing and honestly if you're a content creator, I suggest you get into the habit of doing it every once in a while because if it's not on a master list I think there's whole posts your new followers will just never see
You work hard on stuff and the internet teaches us that content is only good for a week before it spoils and that's just not true.
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thefiresofpompeii · 25 days
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hey insane doctor who people. remember the snowman scene in the church on ruby road? there was no baby in the pram 👀 instead of a baby it was “shopping” . tags i left on a gifset then realised fuck it, it deserves its own post
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gift-wrapped baby that’s not a baby. saved by the doctor from imminent mortal danger but the snowman was hollow on the inside too…
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no but think about the Loki from Thor. from Avengers. the fact that he’s fighting for something good that he believes in means so much. the fact that he can sit there and say he just wants his friends back. these friends. the ones who see him for him. who don’t judge him. who he feels like he BELONGS with.
when has Loki ever felt like he belongs anywhere? he’s always been the outsider, the outcast, the villain. at the TVA he has felt appreciated and accepted. no one is singling him out or giving him a hard time for being himself. he FITS. he has come so so far. and shipping aside, the main reason for that is Mobius. someone who has seen every dark crevice of his life and his bad choices and his darkest moments and treated him with compassion and understanding.
the orphaned, abandoned, misunderstood villain has been able to write his own story because one ordinary man believed in him.
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soliloquent-stark · 9 months
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besides the well-known fact that tony stark's arc reactor literally powered his heart and symbolised his second chance at life, it's been not just alluded to but clearly stated by marvel from the very first iron man film that it represents his heart:
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this point is made very clear again when it's used to portray his death:
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of course they did this; they're such obvious metaphors that are easy to rely on for beautiful visual storytelling. they undoubtedly were aware of the potential for these scenes and carefully considered them since the beginning.
but you don't really get to use each of these moments more than once if you want them to matter, so they had to choose which one of tony's stories needed to be told through carefully picked parallels.
and who did they use them on?
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yup, that's right. steve rogers. steve, who literally ends their painful fight by breaking his heart.
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steve, whom tony literally hands his heart and says "here, take this" while he's devastated, disappointed, and at one of the lowest moments of his entire life.
so, platonic, romantic, alterous — the intricacies of his feelings don't even matter. they're only for tony to know.
but what we as an audience know, what we were explicitly told by marvel, is that the feelings tony had for steve were so strong that they were the equivalent of getting his heart actually shattered into pieces, and being reduced to offering your desperate, mourning heart on a platter as a way of saying "take it all, there's nothing left of me that you don't own now".
these were not accidents. we were meant to understand how profound his feelings were. so many things spiraled out of their falling out — the entire universe's faith was at stake as a result. tony was not indifferent to him. his problem was that he felt too much.
tony's achille's heel was always steve rogers, and that will forever be the backbone of the marvel universe.
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You have to earn that title damnit.
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phoenixyfriend · 2 months
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Somewhere out there is an essay about superhero movies where villains co-opt, misuse, or even just misunderstand the language of the left to push methods and goals that are incompatible with the actual theory of the left, but that sound Right And Good to viewers who aren't thinking it through entirely. And the essay is not just about how they compare to each other, but how they are a litmus test for viewers to know how susceptible they are to propaganda.
Co-opt: Most obvious example and the inspiration for this post is the Riddler in Batman (2020, the one with RPatt). The Riddler recites leftist rhetoric about corruption, wealth hoarding, and redistribution, but his actual actions and goals are unrelated. He's an accelerationist who's more interested in tearing down a system that didn't benefit HIM than in actually rectifying the problems, and who cares if a few kids get traumatized or even killed along the way?
Misuse: Easy mode, this one's Thanos. He talks about ensuring there's enough for everyone to eat, but like. Bro.
Misunderstand: Erik Killmonger, who has the benefit of both some incredibly legitimate grievances and a pretty face, but also kind of fails at the idea of intersectionality, proportionality, or Start With Words Before You Escalate. He's the easiest to sympathize with, because he has some really good points and ultimately does appear to be legitimately pursuing those goals... but he's also a misogynist, jumped to international terrorism before "call up my cousin who doesn't know I exist," and there's something in there about the role played by his time in the US military, which gave him emotional trauma, head trauma, and a sincere belief in the validity of US-style insurgency operations based on hostile takeovers of inconvenient countries. He's charming and pretty and sincere... he's just also, in many ways, wrong. And the parts where he's right makes it easy to try to ignore the bits where he's wrong if you're predisposed to like him and prefer some absolutism.
Anyway, yeah, there are definitely other examples, but the ones that were suggested to me didn't quite vibe with the base idea (Mysterio and Vulture both had disgruntled union moments in the MCU, but they left those roots so quickly that I don't think the concept of using leftist rhetoric as cover/justification for the crimes really applies since, they very quickly shift gears into revenge and greed respectively).
Someone's probably done this better orz.
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an-onyx-void · 3 months
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Thank you Beau DeMayo
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I want everyone to look at this image and tell me if that's not the look of someone longing but knowing it's not the time for what he wants.
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This happened multiple times before and he knew how to respond to Mobius so he could stand back and let him continue.
But that leaves me thinking, how did he figure out? How did he first reacted to Mobius demanding his attention? What did he have to say first to get to the conclusion that he just needed to say "trust me" and "watch" ?
Did he ever tried explaining it to him? How did that go? I need so much answers and that's a perfect opportunity for heartbreaking fics (or in the best of cases a cannon spin off)
But I can't sleep and my heart aches with Loki's tragedy. I feel like a child having watched a very well performed Shakespeare play for the first time in my life.
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buckymilf · 8 months
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sharing this post of mine here too since i love making my fellow bucky stans suffer
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thislilstangirl · 2 years
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the rage of princess shuri
very few character arcs have been as substantive and transformative as the arc given to shuri in wakanda forever. and what makes it so powerful is her undeniable rage.
shuri angry. at herself, at the ancestors, at the world. and there’s so much range in her anger. it’s cold and dismissive to her mother’s faith in the spiritual. it’s painful and untethering to herself and her beliefs. it’s hot and all consuming towards namor and the harm he causes.
and then with how mythical and fairytale-esque wakanda forever is in general. shuri plays with the princess archetype and instead almost becomes a vengeful goddess. eternal war was one death away. it just happens that the person she longed to kill was her mirror image.
a black heroine having the space to transform, rebirth by fire and fury, was an experience. i don’t really know how to put it into words.
“Is my mother’s life not worth eternal war?”
that might be one of the most heartbreaking, and relatable lines in the mcu. grief and anger crystallised into one question.
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noneorother · 7 months
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Aziraphale *IS* a real magician
Just not the way he implies. Of course. 🙃 Have you ever wondered what this is? The portal that he calls the Metatron on in S1, and discorporates the demons in S2? Yeah me too. I decided to find out for both of us. Turns out it's a modified Solomon's magic circle! (there are some angelic symbols in there)
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Which is, depending on who you ask, magic passed down to humans (King Solomon) from angels in biblical times. The grimoire that houses this particular version is from 1572, and is one of the oldest surviving ones in book form. So Aziraphale, in the historical sense of the word, is a Magician who performs spells. Want to see something interesting though? Aziraphale's been hiding an ace up his sleeve.
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If you look at the traditional magic circle, you'll see that the one I put up there is actually a small part in the center of this big one. Which also includes that weird triangle up there, which is called a Magic Triangle (of course) or a Triangle of Art (lol Aziraphale). It's used to summon demons and angels, and make them do things. Like tell the truth when they would rather lie. So do we think that Aziraphale has one of those too? Only one way to find out. Time to find a schematic of the bookshop and put it all together....
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The magic triangle seems to be contained pretty perfectly beneath the big persian rug that aziraphale has place under his desk that extends all the way to the bookcase and sofa. With the central mandala of the rug pattern placed on top of the circle space in the triangle.
Wouldn't it be weird if this came in really handy in the show?
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Like when an enemy with supposed memory loss shows up and he's trying to question him to make sure Gabriel is telling the truth? Yeah that would be a really good magic trick.
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ATSV Fun Fact!! - Mumbattan Cultural Details
Gayatri & Inspector Singh follow the Sikh Religion
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Have you ever heard of Punjabi Sikhs?
If you don't know - Sikhism is a religion that originates in northern India, specifically Punjab.
The turban Gayatri's father wears - along with his last name 'Singh' implies that her father is most likely a Punjabi Sikh.
I notice this the first time watching ATSV and was like 'wow that's so cool :)'
It only hit me today that 'Oh wait I don't think a lot of people know about this very-specific, rarely-mentioned religion maybe i should say something,'
And because I LOVE yelling about world culture, LET'S GO!!!
[a SHORT essay where I explain the basics of Sikhism, a religion built on equality and justice. And details in The Singhs design, and exactly why Sikh Representation matters]
So What's Sikhism about?
Often mistaken for Muslims - Sikhs are actually a non-Abrahamic religion, with 20 million followers worldwide.
But even with so many visible practicing members, most people know very very little about this beautiful religion!
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Sikhs believe in equality and unity - and defending the oppressed. Their book of faith, The Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is called 'Guru' for a reason - Sikhs see the book as not just a code of conduct, but as a living, breathing teacher for every practicioner;
From Wikipedia on Guru Granth Sahib: Sikhs since then [1708] have accepted the Guru Granth Sahib, the sacred scripture, as their eternal-living guru, as the embodiment of the ten Sikh Gurus, the highest religious and spiritual guide for Sikhs. It plays a central role in guiding the Sikh's way of life.
The Guru Granth Sahib is the spiritual leader of Sikhism, and it's treated as such.
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That's why in Gurdwaras - their place of worship - it's treated as such, being clothed and held in ornate structure, constantly fanned throughout it's readings (the fan you can see in the left picture).
They believe that by following the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, they can cultivate compassion, peace, and harmony in their communities, while diminishing 'Mara' - concepts like hatred or violence.
Sikhs believe that every Sikh should revere themselves as champions of unity. And because of this many Sikhs have the same last name -
Kaur for women (Meaning Princess) and Singh for men (Meaning Lion).
Having the same last name also does away with the Indian caste system, making it another point of equality.
In ATSV Gayatri last name is Singh. However from my understanding, her name would most likely be Gayatri Kaur in reality.
I think they kept her last name as Singh as a deliberate choice to keep her initials as GS, like Gwen Stacy.
So is Gayatri Sikh?
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Maybe - most likely.
But we can't be sure. Mainly because of her hair.
Gayatri has a short bob haircut, and while that might not seem like it matters, it does!
In Sikhism there are the '5K's - different aspects Sikhs wear to show their faith.
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Notice the first one?
'Kesh' is the practice of leaving ones hair completely uncut. That's why you may see a lot of Sikh men with long, long beards!
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And hence, the large turbans.
It's done as respect for God's creation - leaving it unaltered.
[Fun Fact! - Rastafarians, a Jamaican religion, also don't cut their hair for this reason. Think Bob Marley. Rastas call God - Jah]
So, Gayatri having short hair means she doesn't keep Kesh.
However, Sikh is a super accepting and open religion, and it's main focus is on acceptance of difference, not conformity - so she could entirely follow the faith without doing all of any of the 5Ks.
Also, if you're curious about the steel sword K - Kirpan, yes that's a thing!
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Sikhs of all genders are encouraged to carry a small ceremonial blade with them.
Instead it's a symbol of the commitment to fighting for what's right - and defending those who cannot defend themselves.
A Kirpan can ONLY be used to defend the life of yourself or others, which is incredibly rare.
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Why is this all so rad, cool, and important?
If you haven't noticed by now, Sikhism is a religion driven by justice. Not just in theory, but in really life as well.
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That's why you may see many Sikh police officers and politicians, even here in the West. Most of them wearing the emblem on their turbans.
In fact, Canada has SO MANY Sikh politicians, that in 2019 they elected 18 of them.
For centuries Sikhs have been dedicated to justice, and developing systems of support, whether that be political involvement or feeding those in need.
The biggest Gurdwara (a place of Sikh worship) The Golden Temple feeds over 100,000 people A DAY.
For FREE.
It's a practice called Langar. A communal meal anyone can enjoy. And of course, Langar food is vegetarian.
Making Inspector Singh a Sikh - and showing him saving people and being warm to his daughter on screen is great representation for a community so often overlooked! Despite the fact they are over 20 million practicing Sikhs.
It's a great detail for Indian and Punjabi representation in specific. It accurate shows their beliefs and commitment towards helping others, no matter the cost.
And from what we can tell, this choice came later in development. We know this because ALL of his concept art shows him with a turban, not keeping Kesh.
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It seems like someone later on down the line said 'Wait if his name is Singh I think he's Sikh and if he's Sikh then we're gonna have to redesign him and make that obvious oops'.
That, dear audience, is why you always have an Anthropologist in the writing room. Or some amateur anthropologist like me :)
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I hope you enjoyed reading this, I really enjoyed writing it!! Sikhism is one of my favorite religions and if you have never heard anything from the Guru Granth Sahib I HIGHLY recommend it, it's very optimistic and compassionate. Sikhnet(.)com is also a great resource!
I have no idea if this will pique anyone's interest, but I hardly ever see Sikhs reflected in media and I know many many people may confuse them with Muslim, especially since many women Sikhs keep kesh and cover their hair as well.
But if you ever wanted to know the difference, here it is! If you read this far, thank you SO MUCH. And if you're a Sikh and reading this, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
As usual, here's a photo of Hobie for your travels.
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BYE.
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hbfengxi · 2 years
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you don’t get it. you don’t get it. i will always think about how shuri all but ran to the ancestral plane, despite not believing in it. how, despite her misgivings, it was a chance to see her mother or brother again;
and i will always think about how she met killmonger instead: someone she deemed an enemy and a threat to those she loved and stood for. always separate and far away, always just a warning—look, this is the wrong path. you should never take it.
and how killmonger convinced her that they were the same. you chose me.
i will always think about shuri after, waking up on that cold metal slab, now hollow in a way no one else will ever be able to comprehend;
how, as she stood up, her loss finally seemed real to her, because even in a place where her wishes to see her family could have been granted, they weren’t. they didn’t come. to her, they chose not to, and so a man like killmonger guided her into her first breaths as the Black Panther instead.
i will always think about how broken by grief she sounded, and angry, and most of all, above all, so utterly alone:
“I saw no one Nakia! I SAW NO ONE! Why did they not show up? Why did they abandon me?”
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