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bucky-h0e · 2 months

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The Many Lives of Bucky and Alpine | Main Masterlist

This is a multi-series fic. Based around Bucky and Human! Alpine and the different lives they lead. The main story is Serendipity - this follows the 'canon' timeline, however the other variants will have their own canon events and timelines as well. Bare in mind that Serendipity will most likely get the most updates because of this.

This is a long-term, on going project - if you would like to request something, please do! Just be a little patient with me :)

Each timeline is separate from one another and has their own 'plot' and attributes, you don't have to read them all! Sometimes I will update with an Alternate Narrative - this will be marked clearly and is not vital to the timeline - just a bit of fun!

Remember, these are NOT shipping fics!

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Serendipity

Neighbour!Alpine and Bucky. This follows The Falcon and The Winter Soldier's events; post, pre and during.

Bucky Barnes now faces a difficult task indeed, navigating the 21st Century whilst making amends for his actions as the Winter Soldier. Left alone to his own devices, he fears he may continue the life of solitude, pushing away all who try to help. But what happens when a stubborn 106 year old meets a similarly stubborn (and downright bizarre) 21 year old? And for God's sake, what is her real name?

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You Feel Like Home

Half-Romanian! Alpine and Bucky. This starts just after Captain America: The Winter Soldier and through Captain America: Civil War; post, pre and during.

On the run from both HYDRA and SHIELD, James Bucky Barnes finds shelter in Bucharest and creates 6 rules for himself to ensure his survival.

One: Make no noise.

Two: Stay out of sight.

Three: Use only cash. Spend only when absolutely necessary.

Four: Follow the news reports. Any mention of his name, MOVE.

Five: Do not get attached to his neighbour's neglected, sick daughter.

Six: Stop breaking rule number 5.

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The Winter Soldier and his Angel

Avenger! Alpine and Bucky. Follows the Captain America Sequels, with Alpine as an Avenger and Steve's ex-handler.

Alpine Doe. Codename: Angel. Bought from the Red Room by a man who wanted his own version of Charlie's Angels. Hired by SHIELD under Natasha Romanoff's insistence after assisting them in bringing the scumbag in. Placed as Steve Rogers' handler and guides (drags) him into to the 21st Century. Now she fights alongside the Avengers, mainly Steve, and feels like she owes everything to them. She when Steve's once thought dead best friend shows up to kill them, she'll stop at nothing to reunite the two. She just wished he'd stop trying to stab her.

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Bucky Barnes: ex-Winter Soldier, now DILF.

Biological Child! Alpine and Bucky. Loosely follows The Falcon and The Winter Soldier with some minor (major) changes.

James Buchanan Barnes is no longer the Winter Soldier. Steve Rogers is considering retirement. Tony Stark retired and is expecting a second child. Natasha Romanoff is on a well deserved holiday. The World has not ended. Finally, Bucky can begin the journey to find himself once more. The same self that used to be quite the ladies man, not that he was complaining. Of course, that is until an mildly annoyed woman knocks on his door with a positive pregnancy test makes him realise just how much the super-soldier serum had affected his body and DNA.

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Pimp My ... Buzz Wagon?

Medic! Alpine and Bucky. Follows Captain America: The First Avenger.

The Howling Commandos are a very special breed indeed. Not only are they almost singlehandedly helping tilt the war effort to favour the allies, they are also somehow managing to get home safely despite the wounds that come with the territory. Annoyed at their lack of concern because Steve Rogers "...can heal a lot faster now!", Agent Carter recruits a medic to join the group. Whilst the less super-soldiery of the group have no real big complaints, Bucky Barnes can't help but argue with the fact that their new medic is an underaged girl.

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For You, I'll Set This Place Ablaze

HYDRA Prisoner! Alpine and Winter Soldier! Bucky. This one roughly follows the plot of Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

HYDRA is irritated. Wiping the Asset's mind is becoming tedious. They need a killing machine, with some level of cognitive function, not a mindless fool incapable of executing simple missions. Slowly but surely, the Asset's memories come back - each time quicker than the last. They are desperate. Perhaps, there is another way to make him behave. Their plan? Give him what he desires. A family. A support system. Make him believe the child is his. She knows no better. Give him something to cherish and to protect. Then rip it away when he fails. Soon, he will learn. HYDRA will always prevail. HAIL HYDRA.

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crimeronan · 7 months

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I’m new here and seeing a lot of your princess Luz AU, but idk what it’s about really or what’s going on. Is there a master post somewhere?

oh hi!!

i don't have a tumblr master post but i do have an ao3 series, four complete fics so far (56k words total). i'm talking about that universe. keep in mind that the fics are horror-based and much more serious than a lot of the shitposts here.

but this is a good time to put all the important bits of AU canon in one place! so consider this a quick exposition masterpost.

the premise:

luz wandered into the isles when she was four or five years old. she was subsequently caught and taken to belos, who decided to raise her as his heir bc, yknow. god must have brought this human to him. eyeroll emoji

a variety of horrific events unfold, which eventually lead to luz killing belos & taking the throne herself when she's nearly 17. with the intention of eventually dismantling the empire. all of this is pretty awful and traumatic for her, it's.... not a fun time. i CAN write a summary of the horrors if you want but it would have to be a whole separate post

other characters' roles:

hunter - hunter has the biggest role storywise besides luz and belos themselves. he's the captain of luz's guard and has been tasked with protecting her by belos. his relationship with belos is dark in ways that luz does not know about for a long time; he's intensely neurotic about keeping her from knowing anything. also he and luz are like Holy Shit codependent and it is Messyyy.

amity - amity is the youngest member of the emperor's coven and being mentored by lilith with the expectation that eventually she'll lead the coven herself. she and hunter have an intense, vicious, and occasionally violent rivalry (based in various jealousy issues & them both being neurotic). amity is very afraid of catching luz's attention bc of the power imbalance between them. but she also knows that luz killed belos.

lilith - largely unchanged from early canon lilith. she's the head of the emperor's -- now empress's -- coven, and intends to ask luz for help with healing eda's curse.

raine - raine is luz's music teacher, the head of the bard coven, and a secret rebel. they care Very Very Very Much about luz. after trespassing in her mind (fic #4 on ao3), they have a much better understanding of why luz has become so much more closed-off and cold and anxious. they've taken on a kind of protective parental role for luz that parallels eda's in canon.

darius - darius is also his secret rebel self, canon backstory intact. he has however gotten along with hunter for much longer in this AU than in the canon, for reasons such as: hunter is less focused on being a cop, hunter so transparently cares about luz that it's hard Not to care about him, n hunter is A Mess. so darius is constantly worried for hunter's wellbeing. similarly he's mentoring amity as a fuck-you to alador, he's pretty much the only adult she trusts besides lilith.

other characters - there are other characters that have yet to show up in any of the ao3 fics. willow as terra snapdragon's apprentice; gus as a wild witch who's still managed to make adrian hate him; vee having escaped to the human world and quickly blown her cover by turning into a toddler-aged luz; camila, after meeting vee and finding out the truth, trying to get to the isles to find the daughter who vanished well over a decade ago. these are all concepts that deserve their own stories, i just haven't written 'em yet.

#replies #princess luz au #princess luz au masterpost #<-so it's searchable. yay #toh #feel free to reblog if u guys want. this is hopefully a decent reference. if im contradicting or forgetting anything then sorry #long post

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frankencanon · 7 months

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I saw someone's modern AU fanart of some Naruto characters and when I saw Gaara it made me wonder...

How might we adapt Gaara's canon backstory into a modern no-powers AU so that he goes through a fairly similar character arc, with his relationships with his siblings and other characters being as faithful as possible to the original series...?

And I'm tentatively leaning towards untreated schizophrenia and subsequent insomnia to explain the lack of sleep and other characters' fear of him, followed later by his improved mental health and social relationships.

The insomnia would of course be caused by the schizophrenia (Shukaku won't stop screaming), and as for the schizophrenia...

In addition to the the obvious (talking to people who aren't there, etc)—I know television isn't the best source, but...

From what I remember of Fight Club and Mr Robot, from the outside the schizophrenia would sometimes appear like Dissociative Identity Disorder instead, where actions taken by the hallucination (Shukaku) would in reality be performed by the individual who is hallucinating (Gaara).

So Shukaku attacking people or saying creepy shit would manifest as little Gaara doing that instead—hence his siblings', father's, and the other townspeople's fear of him.

The only issue would be Gaara's Sand Defense...

Part of what made him so scary to everyone was that he was untouchable. Nothing you did would ever phase him; there was way for you to hurt him.

And for that, I am also tentatively considering giving him congenital insensitivity to pain—also known as CIP.

Something you've probably heard of before, CIP is when a person is unable to feel pain.

It's actually incredibly dangerous—imagine having appendicitis but not realizing until it's already too late because you're unable to feel it—but the reason I'm considering giving it to Gaara is because while it would not make him invincible—far from it, actually—it would instead give him the appearance of invulnerability.

Can you imagine seeing a kid get stabbed or break an arm or something, and he just stands there, completely unaffected, completely unfazed...

A little kid, just five years old or something, and he just looks down at the knife in his wherever and just...pulls it out. Without blinking.

An adult would find that creepy. But a kid, the same age as him? They would probably think him immortal or something. Invincible. Unkillable.

Little baby Gaara, unable to feel pain and suffering from untreated schizophrenia and subsequent insomnia... Why is it untreated? Because his father's an asshole, that's why.

Luckily when he's twelve his father gets murdered and him and his siblings are taken in by family friend Baki.

In the wake of the murder and subsequent scandel, Baki ends up deciding that it'd be a good idea for them to move—to get away from all of this.

They go to a new school where no one knows Gaara but they quickly become wary of him anyway because of his behavior...

Enter Naruto.

Naruto, who was put on medication for schizophrenia just a few months ago or so.

Naruto, who grew up hated by those around him because his similarly schizophrenic mother killed his father and herself after someone snuck into the hospital, into the private VIP section reserved for the president's wife (this is going a bit off the rails, whoops), and slipped some strong drugs into her IV which induced severe hallucinations and caused her paranoia to skyrocket—

(She was already at risk because she temporarily had to go off her meds since they would mess with the pregnancy and put both her and the baby at risk, but it should've never gotten to that point, it never should've gotten that bad, that out of hand—it was entirely That Man's fault, not that anyone acknowledged that afterwards...

Damnit, Obito.

No, they found out Kushina was schizophrenic and they all automatically blamed her, assumed that her being schizophrenic made her dangerous and unsafe to be around, and that her son would be just like her...)

Naruto, who grew up with the adults around him constantly expecting him to snap—their wariness causing a similar wariness (distrust, distaste, avoidance) in their children.

Naruto notices Gaara, and he gets him help—tells Kakashi-sensei who tells Baki who had up till now had been warily avoiding the child, taking notes from Gaara's shitty father, and not bothering to consider why Gaara behaved the way he did...

Gaara is taken to get help. He's prescribed medication and eventually starts to get better, bit by bit. Shukaku quiets and Gaara is finally able to sleep—which surprisingly (it really shouldn't be surprising) does wonders for his mental health.

And throughout all of this, Naruto is an invaluable presence—the wonder that is having a friend who understands, and who isn't afraid of him...

Anyway, yeah. That's how I think it could work—just replace jinchūriki with schizophrenia basically... Plus some other stuff.

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※ Quick reminder: I do not have any of the disorders listed—schizophrenia, insomnia, or congenital insensitivity to pain.

My knowledge of these conditions mostly comes from television and the internet; please take it with a grain of salt.

I repeat:

I am not a reliable source of information for any of this.

Thank you for your time.

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elephant-in-the-pride-parade · 6 months

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WIP BIG BANG 2023 Done

Story Title: The Universe to Mend Fandom: Star Trek: Voyager, Star Trek: Prodigy, Star Trek Novels (Beyer) Link: AO3

Summary: A few years after the events of the books Eternal Tide and A Pocket Full of Lies, a grieving Q teams up with a temporally displaced Kathryn Janeway and resurrects Hologram Janeway and the USS Protostar in order to investigate the reappearance of the universal crisis that killed his son. But when they discover the Krenim Imperium, Kathryn’s most terrifying adversary, are behind it, will these two displaced Janeways and one exiled Q be enough to stop it? Warnings: torture, child loss, canonical character death, smut Characters: Denzit Kathryn Janeway, Hologram Janeway, Q, Mollah Janeway, Maquis Chakotay, Lady Q, assorted Voyager characters. Pairings: Denzit Kathryn Janeway/Q, Hologram Janeway/Maquis Chakotay

When I Started: This idea crept up on me earlier this year and before I knew it I had 8,000 words comprising a solid beginning and a solid ending, but no idea how to thread my way through the middle. How I Lost My Shit: This stagnated for a time early on, as aside from one direct message thread with @theredheadedcaptain who generously indulges my flights of fancy, I knew it wouldn't have the usual incentive - reader engagement - to bring me to the finishline. The fact that it was shaping up to be another near-novel length story was similarly daunting. I plucked away at the structure of it here and there and wrote the key scenes that caught my attention most, but with life as busy as it currently is, I needed something to really light a fire under me if I was going to actually write the thing in full. How I Finished My Shit: entering the @wipbigbang and having a deadline gave me the push I needed. I made a writing schedule for the first time ever. I used the average word count of my finished chapters to game plan how much time i would need to write the others, then i threw that out the window when five chapters in a row clocked in at over 5K. Writing sprints with writing friends also majorly helped me meet my goal. I had to revise my due date once, and wound up posting the last four on a plane where it was still my posting date where I had started, but borderline not my posting date when I landed. It was a nail biter, but now it is all posted and I couldn't be happier with the journey this story took me on! So shout out to @wipbigbang for providing the deadline-motivation that got me to the finish line.

#elephantwrites #that writing life #WIPBB #wipbb2023 #WIP Big Bang #wip big bang 2023 #Kathryn Janeway/Q #Kathryn Janeway/Chakotay #star trek voyager fanfiction #star trek novels fanfiction #star trek prodigy fanfiction #The Universe to Mend

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type40thiefoflight · 1 year

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Happy one year anniversary.

I’m still mad that Mark specifically wrote ISWM in a way that would bait us into thinking Engineer was Actor but then saying in his livestream that he isn’t. Besides this one statement, there isn’t anything to support this. If take the series at face value, without taking Mark’s remark into consideration, there is so much evidence pointing to them being the same character.

If he had written Part 1 to lead us on but then in Part 2 he gradually peppered in hints and a reveal that they were in fact separate characters, I wouldn’t be upset at all. I would consider that clever storytelling while playing with the audience’s expectations. I would think, “Wow, he really had us there, but what a twist!”

Instead we got a comment on an explanation stream that turned everything on its head.

However!

Here’s why Mark saying Engineer isn’t Actor doesn’t matter.

What Mark says in explanation streams can explain his vision and intention for his stories, but it can’t be considered canon. What he’s saying is “Word of God,” meaning that it’s something that he meant to be true but never made it into the final product. He can say something like wanting Actor to die from him and and Wilford playing Russian Roulette in the wine cellar, but until it shows up WAIA it isn’t actually canon.

He specifically said during his WKM explanation stream, “If it’s not in the story right here then anything else could be anything. What exists is what’s on the screen.”

That being said, here’s all the reasons why Engineer is Actor:

In his 10 Years of Markiplier ISWM explanation stream he said, “Engineer Mark is not Actor Mark, but Actor Mark might just be Engineer Mark.”

So what does this mean?

It means that just like Noir and Murdock, Actor is Engineer from another universe that the wormhole accesses. If you’re familiar with the Loki show, Actor is a variant.

“Who Killed Markiplier” takes place in one of the many universes that Captain gets sucked into while they’re traveling through the wormhole. That’s why ADWM and AHWM are from the viewer’s perspective. It’s the perspective of Captain seeing different variants of themself, Engineer, and the rest of the crew live out different lives.

The problem is that that particular universe just so happens to be the home of a sentient, inter-dimensional house that behaves similarly to the warp core crystal.

This means that there are two paradoxes that converge: One stemming from the warp core crystal, and the other from the house.

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Paradox 1: Time Loops:

Engineer finds a warp core he knows nothing about but still integrates into The Invincible II anyway.

A bunch of systems malfunction and the warp core goes offline before disappearing into a wormhole, attempting to resolve an unknown paradox. After repairing the systems, Engineer gets the idea for him and Captain to jump in to find the warp core and bring it back to close the wormhole.

This is not very successful.

What they do succeed in doing is dying a lot and get split up so they’re spat out in different universes at different times. At one point, Captain winds up in a weird, dimly lit version of the warp core room where it entrusts them with its crystal so they can resolve the paradox. Throughout their involuntary space-time jumps, they encounter many different variants of Engineer, including Actor wanting to go on a second date wearing the same suit from ADWM, him in his green room stating his parole is almost up wearing his red robe from WKM (a direct follow-up to Actor saying he only has five years of parole left in one ending of Date), and a noir detective who wants to ask them out on a date.

There are two certainties in the multiverse: Wilford Warfstache and a Mark variant wanting to date a Captain variant.

Engineer and Captain repeatedly encounter Agent Alu Minium from the Universal Stability Agency who accuses Captain of being deliberately responsible for mulitversal devastation. They eventually explain that the two aren’t in a time loop and resetting the ship each time; Captain is actually killing off each universe they go through whenever they make destructive decisions.

“The multiverse is littered with the corpses of your failures.”

After so many trips through the wormhole and attempts to fix things resulting in the ship getting destroyed, Engineer becomes distrustful of Captain and begins to believe Alu’s accusations. He decides to hole himself up in the warp core room and “rebuild” the warp core from scratch so he can use it to go back in time and stop Captain from destroying everything. Captain eventually appears in the warp core room, Engineer takes their crystal to power the warp core, and convinces them to let him go through the new wormhole back to the past.

Once back in the past, Engineer sneaks onto The Invincible II so he can sabotage the warp core, support systems, and Captain’s cryo-pod to try and prevent them from destroying the multiverse.

This backfires and causes a time loop. After another lifetime of universe hopping, Engineer sends himself, Captain, the warp core, and accidentally Alu to the void as a last-ditch effort to save the multiverse. The warp core initiates a universal reset so it can have another chance to resolve the paradox, starting another set of time loops. In every time loop but one, Captain lets Engineer go back to the past. In the last loop however, they instead decide to take the crystal from the warp core and throw it into the wormhole, finally resolving the paradox.

Engineer realizes that without him going back to the past, the warp core won’t be there to power the ship and he won’t be there to sabotage it and the systems so nothing malfunctions and the wormhole functions as intended. The multiverse explodes and is reset one final time with him and Captain making amends when faced with their new home planet.

Paradox Resolved.

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Paradox 2:

Actor and Wiford grow up in a house that can control space, time, and reality. After years of being exposed to this phenomenon, the two have absorbed and honed these abilities.

Wilford can teleport throughout the house by traversing the Upside-Down (the in-between dimension that looks grey and has floating dark particles everywhere). He also teleports onto the Invincible II, and can control time and wormholes. He can also traverse and bleed through the void dimension in the house as shown by him appearing in Abe’s noir pocket reality and Damien being able to hear his conversation with Abe from Celine’s. He has a pocket reality of his own that serves as his interview studio.

Actor gains immortality (or at least the ability to possess his own corpse), traps Damien and Celine in the void without a way back to their own bodies, possesses Damien’s body, is able to enter Celine’s pocket reality she is keeping Damien safe in, and utilizes the house’s reality-shifting properties to write stories where he is the hero and the District Attorney trapped in the mirror plays his oblivious sidekick.

Actor writes “A Heist with Markiplier” where he and Heist Partner steal a box containing a warp crystal from a museum. Immediately upon removing the box from its pedestal, reality around that spot glitches into red, blue, and green, indicating the triggering of an anomaly. Merely being in possession of this crystal causes a whole bunch of universe jumps where Actor and Heist Partner get into many strange scenarios and meet some weird people, most importantly Professor Beauregard. She identifies the crystal (well, the crystal’s box) as the instigator of the anomaly causing all the multiversal destabilization.

The crystal not only transports Actor and Heist Partner through alternate universes as shown by the different choice paths and Yancy’s tattoos, but it also controls time. Opening it in Ending 16 (The Interview) sends Heist Partner all the way back to “The Fall of Slenderman,” Wilford’s first appearance on Mark’s channel, before he closes it and starts interviewing Heist Partner. Opening it during Ending 6 (The End) rewinds everything back to the beginning of AHWM, where Actor decides to forgo the heist and asks Heist Partner out on a date, directly leading into his next story, “A Date with Markiplier.”

Anomaly Resolved.

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How the Paradoxes Interact:

Remember when I said the house can manipulate space, time, and reality?

WKM, WMLW, DAMIEN, ADWM, AHWM, and parts of ISWM all take place in the past and inside the house. Or at least, they take place inside realities created in the void accessed by the house. That museum? Yup, that’s in the house too. The house can alter reality and the crystal can teleport across realities, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility that it would be attracted to and land in a place with similar properties to itself.

This means that when Captain throws the warp crystal through the wormhole when it comes out the other side it lands right at Darkiplier’s feet inside a reality connected to the house. He immediately recognizes the crystal, making it the same one housed in the museum.

“So much trouble, all for something so small.”

Based on his shoes and bit of sleeve cuff we get a glimpse of, he’s probably also wearing the same suit as when he brings Heist Partner to Warden Murder-slaughter’s desk in the void. It’s not clear how the crystal wound up in the museum specifically.

The huge wormhole ripped open by the warp core is allowing universes to bleed into each other.

Variants of Engineer bleed together when he glitches after going through the wormhole so many times in the “Jump in Again” section.

Actor’s character Heist Mark is in “Where in the World is Markiplier?” disguised as the man hunting him down. He uses the reality warping power of the crystal he stole to transform back when Captain calls him out on his disguise. Noir and Captain run into Abe, who seems to be existing in the same reality as him, meaning they hopped into a reality inside the house.

Engineer’s speech about good vs. evil is echoing his mannerisms from his experience as Actor wanting to be the hero vs Damien’s/Darkiplier’s villian.

The environmental lighting turns red and the WKM ending music (Who’s There 2 by Peter Sandberg) plays when Engineer realizes he built the warp core.

After putting out the fire on the bridge Captain gets transported to the Upside-Down, full of “Don’t wake the Captain” posters. They later get transported to the universe the Upside-Down showed them where Engineer is the only one alive on the ship. “I go and I come back and I go and I come back and I ALWAYS COME BACK!” could just be a Springtrap reference on top of being about Engineer’s multiverse jumps but it could also refer to Actor’s many deaths that didn’t stick.

Yancy is there and he and Captain recognize each other. He thinks they’re Heist Partner because they are. That’s another life they lived when traveling through the wormhole. His tattoos also shift to reflect the new choice paths and his knuckles say WARP CORE instead of DARK MARK.

Wilford appears on the Invincible II, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything when he can hop around time and space willy-nilly. BUT he does see us in WMLW when he’s simultaneously talking to Abe and complains about how he has to re-schedule our interview that happens in AHWM.

Celine is a variant of Celci, that’s why Noir has a sticky note in his locker “Dorene=Celci?” It explains why Celine’s pocket reality was a snowy forest; Celci’s the head of Cryo.

Dorene Whitacre is obviously Celine, she dresses nearly identically, constantly reminds Engineer that she’s divorced, and even quotes her brother’s [redacted] catch phrase, “Life is ours to choose.” She’s supposed to be asleep in her cryo-pod but isn’t: Celine is supposed to be asleep in Darkiplier but might be waking up? Darkiplier with Damien fully in control wears mostly black with some white, maybe Darkiplier with Celine Fully in control is the inverse? AHWM is the only time his suit is white with a black shirt rather than black with a white shirt, reflecting Damien’s mayoral tuxedo.

Dorene/Darkiplier can appear in the Invincible II the same way Wilford can: they gained the power to teleport and warp reality. How else could they bring Date and Heist Partner into their void for private conversations?

Heehoo from Unus Annus is canon now?! He’s probably just a joke reference.

Illinois finds Captain in the cryo-pod, no idea how he got on the ship.

Professor Beauregard comes back.

Captain sees Alu in the warp core room but it’s in the Upside-Down.

Field Reporter Jim from WKM interviews Captain at the USA.

Too many references to the WKMCU: Chef, Actor, Date, and Heist Mark, WMLW Abe and Wilford, all the stories Stan/Dad decided not to read

TL, DR:

Heist Partner, Date, and District Attorney are all Captain variants.

Actor and all of his characters are all Engineer variants.

Engineer is not Actor, but Actor is Engineer,and thanks to the overlapping paradoxes, what I just said is simultaneously correct and incorrect.

There might be a universe where Engineer is Actor who got way too lost in his role the way Engineer does with the bomb squad technician and camp councelor.

#iswm #actor mark #engineer mark #markiplier #markiplier egos #markiplier theory #yes this is a fleshed out revamp of a post i made last year #yes mark's remark was deliberate #you're welcome #long post

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archersgoon · 17 days

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celie disillusionment arc real & true

The Celie disillusionment arc is my personal theory regarding Celie’s life over the next five-or-so years post-canon. It’s mainly the assumption that she’s going to have some sort of upheaval regarding the intersection of her sense of duty towards Lumatere (and Isaboe) and her own personal love for it (and Isaboe, and her family, and Froi in particular), and that this will lead to her souring somewhat on her role in Lumatere’s foreign intelligence and how it impacts her relationships with others. The key assumption I’m making here is that Celie isn’t aware of Froi’s previous role as an assassin, at least not during the events of the main series.

(putting the rest under the cut because it got away from me somewhat)

I argue this for several reasons. First, no one else in her family has been told explicitly. They suspect, Abian and August in particular, but to my memory it’s never explicitly confirmed for them. Regarding Celie herself, there’s this section in Ferragost:

This is pretty clearly not the statement of a woman who knows, first of all, that her brother is in Charyn in the first place, and second of all, that he nearly got killed as a result of this specific action. To be honest, given what she says after the highlighted section, it’s possible she’d think on it very similarly even if she was aware, although in that case I do think there would at least be an aside. Anyway, the implication here is that she is not aware of Froi’s recent actions, though I have no idea what she thinks he’s doing at this point in time.

From here, it’s reasonable to assume that she’s also unaware of his prior extracurricular activities with Perri and Trevanion. It’s difficult to extrapolate any particulars of her relationship with Froi, but she refers to him as a “brother of her heart” in Ferragost, and Abian refers to her feeling something like this towards him during a conversation with Isaboe in the main series, so I’m assuming that they love each other quite dearly, even if they’re not very up-to-date on each other’s lives.

The other relevant piece of information upon which the arc is based is this:

While Celie is careful not to include her own thoughts on the matter, she’s Isaboe’s man through and through, and as such does come off as backing her in this situation. The question I ask is this: what happens if the half-truth she gives Celie isn’t enough?

Isaboe is Celie’s closest friend. She gives her truths she gives no one else (except maybe Froi; see QoC chapter 10, although I am not getting into the implications of that right now, see this post). Their friendship is just different and more special than the rest of Isaboe’s friendships. It seems that if Isaboe was going to be completely honest with anyone, it’d be Celie. We know that’s not the case, but I don’t think Celie does. At least, she hasn’t really confronted what it means, that her best friend would (and does!) lie to her if she deems it necessary.

Anyway, with those establishing bits out of the way, let’s get on to the actual meat of the piece: post-canon Celie. From here on out I do a lot of speculation, you may very well disagree, it’s literally fine.

I mentioned it before (here) but what I basically think is going to happen is a gradual ramping up of Celie’s responsibilities as a spy in Belegonia. At the end of Ferragost she did technically come under suspicion, but given that they found nothing and people don’t really like Banyon all that much anyway, she can probably play it cool, albeit after a period of low activity to allay any suspicion. Once that happens, she’ll probably start passing information north on a very regular basis (maybe they’ll even give her someone else to work with). I mentioned it here, but post-canon Lumatere does gain something of an upper hand in their dealings with Belegonia, which could allow for more active moves on their (and Celie’s) part. I do think, at some point, she’ll be asked to kill someone. Probably not for a while, and it’ll be the result of very careful deliberation (well, as careful as they get – I’m not super convinced this is a strength of theirs), but it will happen.

While she works up to this though, there’s also the matter of Froi. Everyone knows about that scene at the creek. I don’t care; the Monts saw it, the Turlans saw it, the valley-dwellers saw it. Everyone’s going to hear about it. So, he was in Charyn, and Celie didn’t know. She’s quick on the uptake though, presumably she figures out he was sent to kill the king pretty quickly. Went off the rails, but I guess that’s just his loving nature! Not really the behaviour you’d expect from someone who’d been doing torture on the regular though, so at first I believe she doesn’t realise. She thinks the Charyn king was his first serious assignment, because he’s not really suited to that kind of lifestyle. There’s this line in Ferragost, which suggests she’s not familiar with the local extrajudicial program:

Obviously, you can make the argument that she’s just not counting these ones due to their actions, and I think she probably does know about them on some level; but the wording of this really makes it seem like she’s not consciously aware of these things happening.

Celie knows Froi was sent to kill the king, but that seems like it. Except, as time goes on, she finds herself experiencing all sorts of weird and unpleasant emotions that she can’t really name. Finds herself lashing out, or retreating into herself, all this nasty stuff that’s so familiar, yet she can’t figure out why, until… oh. That’s right. Froi used to get like this sometimes, when they were both still living at home. She’d just put it down to his former life back then, obviously he was having trouble adjusting to life with their family.

So, I think she starts putting pieces together. She could probably figure out the general shape of things in terms of how local assassinations work, given her newfound involvement (even though they’d obviously keep her out of the loop as much as possible), and from there it’s not a massive leap to figure out Froi’s involvement. Presumably she discovers the link between that seal she swiped and Froi’s life being threatened at some point. They wouldn’t even tell her that much.

This is the tricky part, because I’m not 100% on what her response to this would be, that is, I don’t think she’d be surprised, by either the fact that he was doing all that or the fact that she was lied to, because that’s how Isaboe rolls, she knows that. Even so, it would be reasonable to assume this is an upsetting realisation for her, because subconsciously she probably assumed that her relationship with Isaboe was exempt from this. It also contextualises her family’s increasing distance from the palace. I guess what it really comes down to, is that they could do this again, and she wouldn’t know. She has three other brothers, Talon’s described as shrewd. Will he be used by the palace for the good of the kingdom? Will he have a choice? Should he have a choice? And there it is. Celie does her duty, always. But she doesn’t see it the same way for everyone. When Banyon has her rooms searched, she has this to say:

It pretty heavily implies that love, or even simply good feeling, should come before duty. At least for Banyon, since his duty is to the Belegonian crown, which to Celie should obviously come second to her duty (sidenote: genuinely, I don’t know what she was expecting him to do here). So, if she wavers in her sense of duty at all, it’s pretty quickly going to conflict irreparably with love for those she cares about (including Isaboe I think). First, her brother runs himself ragged in the name of penance for his past sins. Next, she sacrifices herself on the altar of duty. She says she wants a love like her parents’, at least once, and she’s decided she wants it with Banyon. That is very much not achievable given her current responsibilities, and is going to be entirely impossible once those responsibilities become both larger and stricter. What she wants is locked off from her entirely, and the only way her brother managed to be really, truly happy was to remove himself from the system entirely. There’s that barrier between them. It’s always been there, but it’s truly impassable now, like with Banyon. He cannot compromise his and his family’s interests in the name of Lumatere. I figure she probably resents him for this for a good long while.

So: Celie lost her chance at love (the only thing she says she really wants), and her brother is entirely separate from her and the rest of their family now. Harm came to him as a result of her actions, and she wasn’t told. It seems very likely that the same thing could happen again, and she’d have no idea. What if this time, someone is hurt permanently? Or dies? Any of her other brothers could be recruited at any point, with no hope of reprieve, and there’s nothing she can do about it. She has to kill people without any information on why (that she hasn’t gathered herself). The shine of spying has well and truly worn off. What happens now?

There are a few possibilities here. What I do think is inevitable is a permanent rift between Sayles and the palace. Whether Celie is a part of this is less clearcut, as is the extent of its impact in both personal and political aspects. It’s possible she could just put her head down, be a miserable, disillusioned (ha!) tool of the state, and get on with her job, maybe get married off to some foreign lordling in the future. Or, she could focus on her job, get into it, even the unsavoury bits (this is Celie’s villain arc, for the record). Maybe she starts questioning the entire system. One person with all the decision-making ability and all the information isn’t sustainable and isn’t fair (“No gods, no masters,” – Celina-May of the Lumateran Flatlands). But what I think (well, hope) is going to happen is some variation on this: in the long run, Celie is a lot less replaceable than Froi. Her in with the Belegonian royal family is going to be very difficult to replicate. Therefore, she has some bargaining power. With this, in addition to her deep friendship with Isaboe, I think she can set some boundaries. It’ll probably cost her the depth of that friendship, they’ll never be that close again, but she’ll be able to live. She’ll definitely still be doing the occasional assassination, but the reasoning won’t be as opaque. She could have long-term goals (it would certainly be nice if we could legitimise our own succession laws, and wouldn’t the princess-turned-queen be sooo grateful if we could help her?). Maybe she gets a heads-up if anyone else important gets involved in her line of work. Any risks to the people she cares about? She knows about them. Probably the relevant individuals don’t, but that’s alright. I don’t think Celie’s really happy unless she’s doing something at least a little morally dubious.

#lumatere

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saw ranking i binged them all again

one > six > two > four > five > three > spiral > jigsaw > 3d

saw 1 at the top. the forerunner. the patient zero, james wan played god and saw was his Light. i had to pay my respects to it and also Adam Stanheight is in it, one of the best characters period. living breathing memorable quote machine. the most cohesive one, one of the better law enforcement plots, the ending... i don't have to talk about it, we all know how iconic it is. i'll just say leigh whannell's scream still sends chills up my spine.

saw 6 had the best spectacle, best traps, great cinematography, also amanda's in it. the last bang for the franchise before the next three movies after it didn't reach anywhere near its caliber, let alone like... saw 5's caliber. the ending is iconic. i'm disappointed that william didn't survive and it would have been interesting for him to be the only main game subject to live ( i'm indirectly declaring saw 3d non-canon). but rodrick heffley did kill a man so atleast i can walk away with this tidbit of information to share to unknowing fools who never saw this franchise. the scene with THE HOFFMANATOR and the voice descrambler was the most fucking stressed i felt during a movie since i saw rob zombie's halloween 2 i was fucking Sick. even though I knew what was going to happen. bravo greutert

saw 2 was a better follow-up than some ppl give it credit for even though it's also the one where the participants get a little stupider. addison's trap was such a perfect example of this, but can i be mad at it? no. because the first time i saw it i guffawed so loudly. im pretty sure my friends are scared of my sick sense of humor. anyways this is the only film where we get to see john kramer in action where he's not in a flashback or immobilized state, and he's a glorious cunt to watch. my deeply self-delusional serial killer blorbo. donnie wahlberg is so fun to watch. he's so angry. all the nerve gas house participants are also pretty fun to watch even though they're all blank slates with one max personality trait i love them. obi tate i will never forget you and your 5 minutes of screentime... love you honey...

saw 4 is funnier than people give it credit for. a lot of this series is, actually. legendary transitions. eric matthews befriends a little rat friend. introduces THE HOFFMANATOR properly. rigg's addiction to going through doors. every bizarre twist in the last fifteen minutes. an entire potential arc from the last movie getting cut short abruptly by strahm shooting one of the worst characters in the franchise to death. i would pick this for a movie night with the boys

saw 5 has also plenty of funny moments. the fatal five's game becomes a really mean comedy with how they simply refuse to work together as a team. even though it was glaringly obvious from the tapes that they were supposed to. mallick's actor overplays his part and its magnificent. more THE HOFFMANATOR action. strahm performs a tracheotomy on himself to escape a trap and he sounds funny for the rest of the film.

saw 3 was carried by bahar soomekh and especially shawnee smith Period. jeff completely drags it down. otherwise it'll be higher. justice for amanda young and allison kerry. i think i would have connected with saw 4 more in a genuine way if kerry was being tested.

spiral, similarly to saw 3, has chris rock dragging down everything. he feels like a pretty stiff actor. luckily he's more bearable to watch than jeff or bobby. that said, having the bousmaniac back at the helm brought back some of the extremely bizarre editing choices that fuel this series' trademark humor. the shaking camera shot that looks like it was made by a rookie in sony vegas pro... chef's kiss mwah.

jigsaw is legitimately bad. weak cast of characters which these movies always have but this cast is weaker than usual. i don't remember anything about halloran and logan except corrupt cop and ex military jiggy apprentice respectively. i dont remember what kind of personality eleanor has. i don't tgink i was paying attention to this half the time except for the barn game which also wasn't super good

saw 3d... the opening trap (misogynistic implications aside), the horsepower trap and THE HOFFMANATOR were the only Really good moments. the new gibson guy is one of the best actors which i mean that he's one of the worst actors. bizarre lines, even more bizarre delivery. the bobby plotline is the worst main game bar none and the only one in the series i would genuinely call torture porn. i can take away some element of humor from jeff being slow ass motherfucker but not this. the traps aren't intriguing enough. the trap involving a woman having to not make a peep at all is so Subtle. and joyce did NOT deserve that. i still don't know how to feel about gordon being an accomplice... i don't know how to make it make sense for his character and his development...

#saw 2004 #saw franchise #saw movies

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Can you talk more about what Hermione is going thru in the latest chapter of Beasts? Like I can see her obsessing over the hearings is a bad coping mechanism and it true that it’s not fair to others hearing them 24/7 but like I also wanna give Hermione a big hug because girl is definitely going thru something but is not dealing with it properly (also will Ron/ Romione crumbs have me squealing can I just say how much I love you had HARRY checking in on Hermione?? Fandom has the terribly habit of thinking Harry doesn’t care/is uncomfortable to deal with Hermione emotions but in the books he does care and I love that you show him doing it more instead of leaving him in the “can’t deal with this Ron you deal with her” fandom cliche, caring platonic Harry/Hermione for the win!)

I would love to talk about this! Hermione needs a truly historic hug at this point in Beasts, no getting around it. I'm so glad you pulled that part out about Harry and Hermione - Harry does really care, and it felt important to show that, especially that that dynamic will continue even when Romione are officially together. That deep love Harry has for Hermione isn't going anywhere. (And yep I love the Nick Cave dancing scene from the DH film, it's my favourite scene in all eight films, cuff me)

While I don't want to say too much about where Hermione's at (lots more to come, I swear, and it's killing me not to talk about it because I do so love to chatter), I can definitely talk a bit about Hermione's mental state in general terms, and map out some of the thought processes behind where the two girls are at this stage in the fic. Full discussion is below the cut because it does contain some (mild) spoilers, so read on at your peril!

So - Hermione. The thing is that Ginny, for all that she's intuitive, kind and observant, is a limited narrator. We've already seen moments where we know Ginny doesn't always read things or people right - she's extremely empathetic and shrewd towards people she feels similarly to (so far, Harry), and she's by default compassionate to those who either ask directly or who clearly demand for emotional support and reassurance (Bea, Neville, Hannah, asking to come to the pub with them all). But with people she's different to - even if she loves them and is otherwise close to them - she doesn't always get it right. She struggles to work them out and to guess how the people around her are going to respond. In canon, we see this with her changing relationship with Fleur after Bill's attack. In this fic, I've tried to show this in her first meeting with Hagrid, for instance, when she thought he was intimidating and mocking her, or her certainty that Bill is doing the right thing staying well away from the Greyback hearings, when Bill has actually decided to walk into the fire and get involved. Ginny's going through it with her own stuff, too, right - she's blinkered.

What Ginny has seen of Hermione so far, and what the reader (hopefully!) sees, is someone who is being equally guarded about what's going on with them, but who is dealing with their shit very differently to how Ginny is dealing - or not dealing - with hers. It's not that Ginny isn't trying to get through to her, it's that she doesn't know how best to do it. When Ginny looks at Hermione, she sees someone who isn't asking her for help, who doesn't need Ginny as protection, but who is instead developing an obsessive and quite solitary interest in the trials and questions of post-war societal reckoning that Ginny thinks is unhealthy. Hermione judges Ginny for not taking more of an interest in an issue of historic importance and for being so avoidant: Ginny judges Hermione both for how self-destructive her coping mechanisms seem to be and for not being attentive enough to its effects on the people around them, especially the younger ones Ginny feels so protective towards. Chapter five is as close as either character has come so far to acknowledging this dynamic:

The fury comes quick, rising up in her. ‘You don’t get to decide what’s good for everyone. We are perfectly capable of deciding whether we want to hear all of this shit - ’ ‘Burying their heads in the sand isn’t going to fix anything. They need to know, they need to know what went on - ’ ‘You think they don’t know?’ She points angrily at the other Gryffindors staring at the two of them, blood rising to her face. ‘You think they don’t know what went on?’

At this point in the fic, we can speculate about what Hermione's going through. She's been made Head Girl of a student body who lived a very different war to hers - both were traumatising, but in different ways. She's already troubled by the direction postwar wizarding society seems to be moving in, from what she's heard on the wireless, a society she just fought hard to rescue but which has consistently rejected her on account of being Muggleborn. She's on top of her school-work, still, but worrying about exams that are objectively months away (also, back to worrying about school and exams after a literal war - school that was always, in part, about her proving her abilities and right to belong in the wizarding world). She's sat in Defence lessons with a much more intense and acute knowledge of the material earned in exceptionally traumatising circumstances. She's very lonely. She's separated from the two people she's closest to, Harry and (especially) Ron, after this extremely intense year together, and right after her and Ron have finally found their way to each other, after so long. Her and Ginny used to be close, in an adolescent, fair-weather friendship kind of way, but the year they've spent apart has taken them in such different directions, especially with friendship groups. While Ginny, at least, seems to have some downtime via a much closer friendship with Hannah and Luna after sixth year together, her time helping out Hagrid, and even the support of the Quidditch team (even if she's avoiding them rn), Hermione seems to have no close friends around, only a fellow Head Boy she likes well enough but has never been close to, and who actually was sent to Azkaban for being Muggleborn, whereas Hermione was not. Even Crookshanks is giving her the cold furry shoulder, and, so far, we've seen her go to London at the first chance she got, something Ginny was hugely envious of. We know she did this, both to see Ron and Harry, but also to see her parents, who we know are back from Australia and living in the UK, but who we don't know much about (yet).

Downstairs, Hermione’s sat — of course — by the wireless. Her hair’s pinned back from her face, her blouse is pretty, fitted, and she’s wearing her new scarf, though the common room’s much too warm for it. But her face is grave, eyes closed as she listens to a woman’s tearful voice whispering down the airwaves. ‘I thought - I thought I’d lose my daughter - ’

Hermione absolutely isn't a cruel or unkind person. You're completely right that she absolutely doesn't mean to upset the other students by subjecting them to the wireless every night. But she truly believes it's important, politically and morally, for them to listen to the Greyback victims and to see these huge ethical faultlines that run throughout wizarding society, that began long before Voldemort and threaten to continue after him. She and Ginny just have very different ideas, at this point, about what's best for the students of Hogwarts. The thing that's interesting about writing this arc (I talked a bit about this here) is that, in the same situation, I'd be much more of a Hermione than I would be a Ginny, for better or worse. I'm desperately trying to tread the line between respecting that neither character is coming from a malicious place, and that neither is truly right or wrong in this situation, just showcasing that they both came into the war as very different people and are even more different on the other side of it. There's so much more to come on Hermione, I swear. The scene between the two of them at the end of chapter three is still one of my favourites I've written on who Hermione and Ginny are to each other, playing around with the memory of their past closeness, the things they're not talking about that they have in common, and the idea that these two have the potential for real arcs of growth and development through their friendship that Harry and Ron get in the canon series, but that the young women of the series also deserve, too.

‘Little Women?’ ‘It’s a Muggle book. My mum used to read it to me, when I was little. It’s about sisters during the American Civil War.’ ‘What’s so little about them?' She peers at the cover. 'They look quite normal-sized there. Are they gnome sisters, or what?’ Hermione manages a smile this time. ‘It just means they’re young, I think. Not quite grown-up women yet.’

#beasts #hermione granger #the girl is going THROUGH IT #if you wrote this fic from hermione's perspective she'd be like 'damn why does ginny smell like hippogriff the whole time'#thank you for reading and for this question anon!

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Soo, because I'll otherwise loose my mind, here my ranking for the eight stories (of course, big spoilers follow, also for the endgame)

1. Osvald

This was pretty much a safe card to get into my favourites. A broken science man, who first starts out with wanting to avenge his wife and daughter, but then realises that his daughter is alive and saves her? That's good shit for people with father issues right there.

But what really got me with him was... everything around him. How he slowly warms up to the other travel companions, how he lets other close to him again. In the last travel banter with Partitio he talks about how he realizes that he managed his journey only because of his companions, and how he finally sees the sense behind small talk and. It's so great. He was my starter and even though it was really funny at the beginning how that lone wolf suddenly was surrounded by five children, Temenos and Castii, I could see him lead my squad at the end against Vide. That's what I call character development.

And I know that after the epilogue the first thing he did was run back home, confronted his fear and hugged his daughter. Trust me, I'm Square Enix.

2. Ochette

I'm sorry, but I couldn't put her lower. Ochette's story was so nicely put together - I love how all three legendary Pokémon beasts have separate stories, but one element that unites them all: how humanity destroys nature without reason or remorse. But still Ochette stays strong and kind and has hopes and... God, that was great to see. That moment when she befriended Glacis and the other companion was honestly beautiful.

The only thing that annoys me is the fact that the dark huntress was so... irrelevant at the end. I expected a plottwist around her, something like 'haha, this character from story X was actually her!' but... no. Shes just an evil fanatic who has only one appearance when she gets killed by the other companion. A little bit lackluster tbh.

But yeah, Ochette is my daughter and I would kill for her.

3. Castii

That third chapter. God damnit.

I'm really surprised how much I liked Castii at the end. Once again, family issues and all, but also... her story is so dark. She could save the day, but so many people had to pay for it and it was so brilliant how you could go into the empty village from the beginning (it was even part of the demo) and ask yourself "what the fuck happened here?" before all becomes clear. Its so bittersweet and I'm all here for it.

4. Partitio

I know, his story is not the most... logical one. But sometimes you want to live in an indulgent fantasy where you beat capitalists up and then they see the errors of their ways and where a rich sugar daddy aristocrat gives you 80 billion dollar because you inspired him enough. But yeah, he's just so fun and I love how, even though so many people change throughout OT 2, he always stays the same idealistic optimistic moron who inspires the people around him. And how Ori pretty much confirmed that the reason she saw hope again was because of Partitio? Whoof.

Also my head canon is that Mister Roque and Pepe had something going on while they built Orerush. I mean... come on. Two single men, with no woman by their side but really close, and Partitio even calls him uncle in german? Thats sus right there.

5. Throné

Technically, this story is right up my alley. I don't know what it keeps from being higher up except the fact that the Claude twist came a little bit out of nowhere. But there are so many small scenes that I love, how the girl in Mothers Garden swears revenge and still gets a happy ending, how happy Father is that he still got to be a father (his whole story was fantastic btw), how you're not thrown into Lostseed but travel there throughout her last chapter and then are met with such despair. And yeah, the end was similarly bittersweet as that of Primrose from the first game, what I love. At the end, freedom reeks of blood, but... it was worth it.

6. Agnea

The step up for the fluffy stories from the first to the second game is insane.

But yeah, I talked about it once already, but what makes this story special for me is the journey in her mother's footsteps. When her father gave her her dress at the beginning it nearly teared me up lol.

But yeah, her whole story is just so sweet and cute and anti-capitalistic (she kinda has Karen-energy but in a good way) and how it all tied together at the end with all the people from the different chapters coming together at the festival of graces was great. And this story has easily the most background lesbians (the traveling group, Dolccinea and Victoria...), it's amazing.

7. Temenos

...yeah. This is my biggest unpopular opinion from this game xD

But yeah, what really annoyed me about Temenos' story was, similar to Cyrus' story from the first game, that it tries to be a detective story, but... it's the most predictable story of all lol. From the beginning I was like 'yeah... the sacred guard was responsible, wasn't it?' and it kinda took my investment in that story out of it. Also I like Temenos and Crick, but not as much as most of the fandom, I'm afraid - there was something that didn't click with me, I guess. Even though the Stormhail-Route was still pretty sad ngl. And even though Kaldena was my third to last end boss, she still nearly killed me, so here's that.

8. Hikari

Hikari is really a sad case because his story could have been even more tragic and sad. But he suffers the most from bad writing - Mugen is such an 'evil for the sake of being evil' antagonist while being the stupidest person ever (that moment when he killed everyone because 'they could be vengeful later!' made me literally facepalm) and I still don't understand why Ritsu hates the emperors and their war mongering so much, but then ends up working for the biggest war monger of them all. I lowkey expected him to betray Mugen but... no. He's just vengefulTM and randomly turns good two seconds before dying.

But I liked Hikaris arc and turning the shadow hold into the light hold was a great idea. Generally his first and last chapter were pretty atmospheric and I really grew to like Kazan as a mischievous, but sympathetic ally that his betrayal really stung. Generally, the second game had much better written and more engaging stories than the first, it didn't have any Tressa-like story where I didn't particularly care about anything. But still, Hikari kinda deserves better.

#octopath traveler #octopath traveler 2 #octopath traveler 2 spoilers #octopath traveler II spoilers #octopath spoilers #generally I liked all stories in some way or another #but as always i have thoughts lol

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Spidersona | Ecto-Skeleton's Earth

General Information

Ecto-Skeleton's Earth is Earth-CC.

Ecto-Skeleton operates in Louisville, Kentucky.

Ecto-Skeleton was murdered when they were eighteen, and was bitten and subsequently resurrected close to their nineteenth birthday.

Upon entering the Spider Society, Ecto-Skeleton is twenty-five.

All of Ecto-Skeleton's rogues are either members of their family or their former friends from their past life. Except for their Black Cat variant, Catheart, who is their love interest.

Ecto-Skeleton is also known as the Crying Spider in their universe.

Canon Events (& How They Got Fucked Up)

While Ecto-Skeleton was supposed to be bitten by the spider, it is heavily implied they weren't supposed to die and lose their memories. This event broke their canon events.

Gwen Stacy's Death: Since Ecto never ended up with their Earth's Gwen Stacy, they survived.

Upside Down Kiss: While this event does happen, it was with the wrong person. Due to the fact Ecto pursued a relationship with their universe's Felicia Hardy, the kiss was between Spiderman and Black Cat instead of MJ.

Best Friend Death: Instead of Ecto-Skeleton losing their Harry Osborne, their Harry Osborne lost Ecto-Skeleton which led to a rogue origin story instead of a way to motivate Ecto.

Police Captain Death: Due to being killed by a serial killer, Ecto refrained from getting close to the police due to the serial killer still being at large. Any death among law enforcement won't effect Ecto in anyway.

Death of a Father Figure: While Ecto is a child of divorce, they were supposed to reunite with their father only for him to die later. Due to having no memory of their parents, their father became safe from the eventual meet up. Similarly to the best friend event, Ecto became the death that spurred their father to become Earth-CC's Chameleon and spurred their mother to become Earth-CC's Owl.

Bonding with the Symbiote: While this event does happen, instead of being slowly corrupted Ecto bonded with the symbiote and eventually convinced it to find a better host that aligned with their ideals. The symbiote would later latch onto one of Ecto's new friends.

Gwen Stacy Romance: Due to Ecto pursuing a relationship with Catheart, Ecto never met their Earth's version of Gwen Stacy and therefore never had the romance common among spider people and subsequent death.

Mary Jane Watson Romance: Due to Ecto pursuing a relationship with Catheart, Ecto never met their Earth's version of Mary Jane Watson and therefore never had the romance common among spider people.

#spidersona: ecto skeleton

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valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn · 8 months

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Let’s pretend for a moment that Wanda’s antis are right and she actually did sign up for Strucker’s experiments knowing full well that he was Hydra. Would that make her and Pietro irredeemable? I mean, they didn’t exactly join Hydra’s ranks; they volunteered to be lab rats. There’s kind of a difference.

I suppose if this were true then the question would become “for what purpose did they volunteer?” I could see it being spun similarly to the five Winter Soldiers from Civil War who volunteered to be more efficient agents, but I don’t think something like that would be in character for either twin.

I think there would be at least a small gray area if they knowingly used Hydra to get powers and then planned to either abandon or straight-up destroy them. But then again, if you think the “if you work with Nazis then you are by definition a Nazi yourself” mindset should be applied in that situation, then I could understand that too.

Obviously this is a moot point since the only account of their recruitment shows otherwise and from what I know nothing contradicts it, but I just want to look at the worst possible scenario.

I'd say intention matters the most. If they knew they were Hydra and they only joined them with the intention of using them to get powers so they could then betray them and go straight to the US to kill the Avengers... it's still messed up but I wouldn't call it "joining Hydra". That'd be more like "using them".

Now, assuming that was the case and they had always known, but their plan was to leave and not stop/kill them, I would have an issue with that. These people were killing Sokovians right, front and centre in their experiments and it would be out of character for the twins to not care about that. In fact, judging by their immediate rejection of Ultron once Wanda sees the many deaths he intends on causing, it wouldn't make much sense that they'd be selective when it comes to saving lives: if we don't count Johannesburg, they never attack citizens, quite the contrary. Their battle is with the Avengers, no one else. And Wanda isn't exactly a fan of killing people either, we can see that in Lagos when she basically leaves it to Sam to be more forceful while she just uses her magic to stop them (never kill them).

My point is... using Hydra like that doesn't make you a nazi but the problem is you're there with them while they're doing unspeakable things to other people. And if you do nothing to stop them and you just focus on yourself and what you can get out of them... then yeah, that's despicable. I wouldn't expect the twins to stand up against them immediately post-experiment (we can only imagine the mental state they were in at the time), but once they had full control of their powers and they were alert enough... not doing anything to destroy that base and just running away is messed up, no doubt about it.

However like you say, this is speculation and it's still up for interpretation as I don't think canon stated at any point that they knew for sure they were volunteering for Hydra. The prelude comics make it clear the twins didn't know they were Hydra, and these bunch of nazis weren't exactly advertising themselves (much less in a country that had been invaded by American troops, it would have been pretty stupid to do so), so how were the twins supposed to know? Also, I highly doubt they met Strucker right away, the scientists conducting the experiments as seen in WandaVision were two nameless goons accustomed to seeing volunteers die at the first contact with the Mind Stone.

Assuming lab rats would be informed of everything Hydra did or didn't do is plain dumb. So Agent Brexit had no way of knowing Zola was Hydra but the twins are supposed to know everything that happened in that base? That's hilarious.

#wanda maximoff #pro wanda maximoff

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partsandservice · 2 years

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A theory linking FNAF 2 and The Silver Eyes

I don't know if people are really interested in FNAF theories/speculation on here, but I wanted to post this anyway since I think it's really interesting. It might make more sense to call this an interpretation rather than a theory, as I don't think it was meant to be canon, but it's one of those things that fits together well and solves some unanswered questions.

So as everyone knows at this point, the novel trilogy is not canon to the game's timeline, however it has been established that characters and events can occur in parallel in both universes. The novel even introduced characters like Charlie, Henry, and the name William Afton before he was ever named in the games. I've been thinking about the events of FNAF 2 and I've thought of a way to tie together the stories that I think is really interesting.

So first what's canon: FNAF 2 has four minigames that depict events around the deaths of several children. Most of them show the death of the child who would become the puppet (later confirmed to be Charlie), the death of five children in the Missing Children Incident, and the puppet giving life to them, allowing them to possess the five main animatronics from the first game.

However, the SAVE THEM minigame is notably different. Instead of the MCI, which occurred at a previous Freddy's location, this game map depicts the FNAF 2 location. This heavily suggests there has been another series of deaths directly before or during the events of FNAF 2. This minigame also depicts the purple guy as a security guard, which lines up with him being the "first security guard" that Jeremy Fitzgerald replaces. Throughout the game nights, phone guy tells us about an ongoing investigation in the restaurant that seems to be these new missing children, this leads to the restaurant closing down by night 6. Phone guy also tells us that the first security guard has disappeared by the time the investigation gets serious.

Despite being central to the story of FNAF 2, there is not much canon information about this second series of deaths. There is very little evidence to suggest that the toys are possessed as well, their positioning in SAVE THEM seems to suggest instead that witnessing these murders made their AI malfunction, causing them to attack staff members and other adults. But in that case, what was the fate of these 5 other children?

This is where The Silver Eyes comes in. That book contains a lot of similarities to FNAF 2 in its overall story. One of the most obvious that many have pointed out is that William Afton poses as a security guard, "Dave Miller," to watch over the original Freddy's location. Many people have decided that "Dave Miller" would be a good candidate for the fake name William used as a security guard in the games as well. The rest of the theory is a bit of an extension of that logic.

In The Silver Eyes, Charlie Emily (a teenager in this universe) and some of her old friends break into the old Freddy Fazbear's location in 1995, the ten year anniversary of the MCI. They meet Dave Miller, a creepy but unassuming security guard who offers to show them around the restaurant. Eventually, towards the end of the book, they end up trapped inside, with Dave attempting to kill them, they only really manage to escape due to the intervening of Golden Freddy (in this universe possessed by their friend Michael Brooks).

So now for the real theory: What if the set of main characters in The Silver Eyes are the actual identities of the victims of the 1987 deaths, with the way they died paralleling the events of the book? It would solve a lot of unanswered questions about FNAF 2.

In SAVE THEM, the pizzeria seems to be closed down for the night, and considering we see purple guy there it's likely during his night shift. This always confused me, if it's the middle of the night, how did five children get inside? Did he trap them in a back room until everyone else left?

Similarly, the bodies are spread out all across the pizzeria, notably different from the original MCI which happened entirely in the back room. There are signs of struggle and pools of blood all across the pizzeria. It looks like the 5 kids we see ran around the restaurant and tried to escape, but didn't make it out in time.

All of this makes sense if we assume the kids in the game broke into the restaurant at night and met the security guard, Dave Miller, who led them into a false sense of security before attacking. This explains the events of the minigame perfectly, as well as paralleling the Silver Eyes. It would also explain how the deaths could happen during Dave's nightguard shift the week before the game (likely Thursday or Friday night), but an investigation doesn't really begin until a few days into the next week. If the kids snuck out of their homes at night, rather than being actual Freddy's patrons, it makes sense it would take a few days for their parents to realize they were gone and put together where they went. This overall lines up very well with phone guy's dialogue throughout the game.

As for the identities of the children, this is less clear cut but it makes sense that it would be the five main characters of The Silver Eyes (John, Jessica, Carlton, Marla and Lamar, minus Charlie of course). As this game takes place in 1987, they would have been a few years younger than in the books, making them young enough to be killed by serial child murderer William Afton but still older than the average customer of Freddy's. They would be in the age range of young teens who might be interested in breaking into a restaurant at night for fun.

The characters of Silver Eyes also mostly move away from Hurricane after the MCI. This is mostly due to the fact their close friend Michael Brooks was one of the victims. As Michael is not an MCI victim in the games, it makes sense that their family would have stayed around to see the opening of the new 87 location. They would likely be less connected to the original deaths and more likely to sneak into the restaurant for fun. They also would not have him as Golden Freddy be able to save them as he does in the books.

That's basically the theory, again it's probably an unintentional coincidence but I think it's a very interesting interpretation that makes FNAF 2 make a bit more sense as a story.

#fnaf 2 #the silver eyes #fnaf theory #fnaf #oc

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duckbang · 2 years

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Don't worry guys, this would be wholesome!

I said, as i proceeded to

Red

-ex-criminal

-used to be white (symbolism is up for debate, barely anyone in his current friend group knows this)

-knows more about gangsters and crime than he does about animals. Also a hella good fighter

-damaged bean someone save him

-he has pants

-and fire powers

-because f you

-he looks good in pants

-oh he also has a sword from his crime days

-has killed too many people

-nightmares :(

-but now he's a good bean

-:D

Green

-green

-was kidnapped by Chosen during the early Destroy Everything Tyrranise days

-had no clue anyone else of the colour gang existed except Yellow

-cuz yellow was kidnapped along with him

-cho and dark raised them as their own kids tho (no homo)

-views cho and dark as his parents

-emotionally attached

-builder guy

-ended up helping Dark make his virabots (he agreed to it dw! Dark doesn't force his, ahem, kids)

Yellow 🟡

-same story as Green

-kidnapped by Dark tho

-also hella smart

-like if there was a Mx Intelligence award yellow would be winning since, uh, age five

-also views cho and dark as her parents

-helped dark in designing virabots (again, not forced)

Additional notes about Green and Yellow: despite their guardians, the two are relatively normal people. However they have inherited a certain degree of evilness from Dark and a certain degree of hidden compassion from Chosen. When Chosen attacked Dark (AvAs 3, flashback) and further events leading to the showdown, the two were extremely confused. Ultimately when Sec KO'd Dark, the two got extremely angry and almost killed Chosen and Second in their rampage. Chosen had to fight back to defend himself and others, but accidentally killed them. He has never been able to forgive himself for this.

Chosen

-come on he's Chosen

-hated Alan

-his idea to get the colour sticks out of Alanspc because alanspc not safe

-only green and yellow existed. Mission successful.

-took care of green and yellow with Dark

-had a random change of heart about Alan

-was furious to find out that Dark had asked G and Y to help him with the virabots

-might have lead to their divorce argument

- accidentally killed Green and Yellow after showdown (read note above)

-extreme amount of guilt and self hate over that btw

-aaaa

Blue

-blue

-beanie

-addicted to netherwarts

-was created after Green and yellow disappeared

-Red wasn't on the stickfight website then

-had no clue g and y existed until that day at the showdown (they died soon after anyway. Eh)

-did become friends with Red when he showed up at the website

-and with Sec

-peaceful life

-randomly saw Vic's ghost in the forest one day

-went insane over it

-neither of the other two believed her

-managed to track down the ghost, found it was not a ghost, brought it home

-has unofficially adopted Victim btw!

-???

Victim

-void man

-void glitch

-out of Void man

-sees Blue

-also loses his mind because the next Instant the Void pulled him back in

-bullies the Void with viruses and code bombs

-gets permanently thrown out of the Void

-reunites with Blue

-happy :D

Second/Orange

-all canon events, sufficiently changed to fit lore mentioned above

-????

King

-all canon events edited to fit above lore

-???

Purple

-all canon events, but never left b and g in the End because. They weren't there. Other lore similarly edited

-??????

Order of events

Victim creation and deletion

Red starts existing in a different space as White

Chosen creation

Dark creation and destruction of alanspc. Tyranny on internet.

Creation of Green and Yellow

Chosen and Dark get them away

Blue creation

Stickfight creation

Red joins stickfight. As Red

Orange creation

<canon>

Victim gets out of Void

Showdown, Dark death

Green and Yellow death

In other words, I think i should stop saying that something can be wholesome.

But anyway, welcome to my evil au!

#animator vs animation #animation vs minecraft #alan becker #evil au duckbang

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sweetbitterimpossiblecreature · 3 years

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A Brief And Concise Summary Of Is Wrong With The ACOTAR Series

I think we can agree that a lot of ACOTAR is pretty iffy. Consider this a very brief refresher.

What's Wrong With Feyre/Rhysand (juxtaposed against Feyre/Tamlin)

Rhysand drugs and sexually assaults her in Book 1

This is "for her own good". Because he "has no choice". Despite the fact that, from what we know of the plot, Amarantha thinks that Clare Beddor was the one Rhysand was diddling, and is only interested in Feyre because Rhysand, "her" man male, has taken an interest in her.

If we extrapolate from this we can figure that Rhysand is the one directly putting her into danger.

Now, let's be clear: drugging someone is bad. Sexually assaulting someone is bad. One could argue there were extenuating circumstances. But if, in such a situation, what your mind goes to is "I know, I should assault this person... for their safety" I have questions about your moral qualities. There were a million things he could have done. He could have done whatever he did to Clare - that is, remove her ability to feel any pain - easily. He could have helped her escape. Under The Mountain, he - while still there unwillingly - has a lot of power, as Amarantha's side piece. Maybe this would have resulted in him being punished- however, he is hundreds of years old and a badass motherfucker, and she is a nineteen year old human girl.

Now, onto Tamlin. Obviously not a lot of people really ship F/T anymore after ACOMAF, because compared to F/R, it's boring. I read another person's post about it, which was very enlightening: they said that Feyre's personality is essentially a mirror. When she is with Rhysand, she's snarky and malicious- because she is "bouncing off" his energy. When she's with Mor she's super feminist and "in awe of her strength". On the other hand, Tamlin is kind of an empty character. He's a pretty boy with anger issues, which should be more interesting than it is. SJM manages to make him bland. Because Feyre has nothing to bounce off of, (a lot of this is from the person's post), she and Tamlin together is mainly just him introducing her to his world.

What Tamlin Does: prevents a skinny twenty year old from going on dangerous missions with him and combat-trained soldiers, accidentally blows up a room with her in it, and, at the end, prevents her from leaving the house.

This is not a Tamlin apologist post. Obviously it was really fucking gross of him to do that, and their relationship was toxic. However, a lot of his abuse stems from their inability to communicate, as well as own negligence. He does not knowingly and purposefully sexually assault her or rape her mind. And tbh, leaving a girl without combat training at home while he goes on missions with a bunch of muscled sentries is... kind of reasonable?

Again: not a Tamlin apologist post. It was abuse. However, if Rhysand is "allowed" to sexually assault, mind-rape, and drug Feyre "for her own safety", why is Tamlin demonized for preventing her from leaving his mansion "for her own safety"?

Another pertinent point: Rhys is never punished for sexually assaulting her. It is brushed off as part of his "mask" or that his hand was forced. Jesus Christ my dudes, his hand was not forced under her skirt. If he has to maintain his gross rapist abuser tyrant oppressor mask... why? Who did that benefit beside him? None of his actions remotely helped Prythian. They were done solely for his buddies - five people safe in a rich hidden city - and no one else, which is explicitly stated.

Finally, the power dynamic is fucked up. Feyre is less than twenty five years old. Rhysand is 500. There is a tendency in fantasy romance to romanticize a centuries year old man with a young girl, because the man does not show symptoms of age, and so it is easily ignorable. However, can we just briefly acknowledge how fucked up it is? Rhys is over five times older than Donald Trump, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, and other known predators/abusers. She is twenty. That is really fucking gross. She is in a vulnerable position and he takes rampant advantage of that.

If he had wrinkles, liver problems, and erectile dysfunction, more people would acknowledge it.

Let's be clear: I'm not saying writing a book with an uneven power dynamic is automatically bad. For example, in The Locked Tomb series, which is in my opinion THE BEST FANTASY SERIES THAT HAS GRACED THIS EARTH (lol i'm starting fires), one main character Harrowhark Nonagesimus is in a position of power over Gideon Nav, the other main character. However, this is not glossed over or romanticized. Gideon resents Harrow for this- there is a relationship of mutual antagonism, fraught with unwilling familiarity and intimacy from growing up together. They are roughly the same age. While there is a certain power dynamic (in that world, there is a dynamic of necromancer and cavalier, i.e. sorcerer and sword) the "empowered" character (Harrow) emphatically respects her and does not abuse this power, although both would of course deny this, and she does make a show of threatening and being aloof. In short, while Gideon obeys her, Gideon also has power over Harrow, and the idea of what is essentially slavery is not romanticized.

Feyre Doesn't Face Any Consequences For Her Own Actions

Let me present a radical notion: a guy preventing you from leaving his house does not justify completely fucking ruining his country and harming the people inside it.

In other words: Tamlin does not deserve what she did to him.

I know that sounds iffy. We're conditioned to think that if someone is an abuser, then they are the scum of the earth, they deserve to die, torturing/murdering/doing anything to them is completely A-OK. However, here's another radical notion: someone harming you does not justify you doing worse.

Obviously, the effects of psychological abuse can cause you to hurt other people (see: Nesta), but Feyre deliberately and maliciously (oh, God, that insufferable POV of her in Spring Court; she reads like a cartoonish Disney villain) dismantles his country. She uses sexual manipulation (Lucien), torture (causing the sentry to be whipped), and mind-rape (who didn't she do this to? lol).

A summary of the entire first half of ACOWAR: "It smelled like roses. I hated roses. For this capital offense against my olfactory system, Tamlin and the entire Spring Court deserved to burn in hell. I knew exactly what I was doing. I smiled at him sweetly: no longer a doe, but a wolf. He didn't see my fangs.............." *aesthetic noises*

Man. I'm starting to think SJM had a horrible experience at a Bath & Body Works and took it out on the rest of us. Don't do it, Sarah!! I know Pink Chiffon and Triple Berry Martini are way too strong, but don't take it out on an innocent population!!

She steals from Summer Court (there are, yk, other solutions to theft. Like maybe asking politely) and ruins Spring Court. Her boyfriend - yeesh sorry, MATE - does nothing while a dozen Winter Court children are murdered.

Now: moral ambiguity is not automatically bad. Again using The Locked Tomb as an example, in the second book (spoiler alert), Harrowhark has a sort of moral ambiguity. She was raised from the beginning to worship the King Undying as God, and so she obeys him without question. Because of this, she commits a lot of crimes in His name: she "flips" - i.e. kills - the life force of planets, and she plots murder (albeit the murder of someone who tried to kill her first). There is no attempt to justify this. There is also no attempt to paint her as a virtuous and yet also badass Madonna figure. She is desperate, plagued with the "wreck of herself", and the book clearly displays her moral pitfalls. While her POV is of course colored by her mindset, it also is limited by her lack of information, and we as readers can acknowledge that.

BACK TO ACOTAR: Feyre is seen by everyone as gorgeous, formidable, and essentially perfect. Rhys sees her as flawless, "made for him", wonderful, beautiful, blah blah blah. (THEY ARE SO BAD FOR EACH OTHER; THEY EXCUSE AND GLORIFY EACH OTHER'S CRIMES, IT'S SO BAD, GUYYYS). Tamlin is insanely batshit in love with her, or whatever. To the Night Court she's the High Lady. In this way she personifies the Mary Sue character. (Excerpt from the TV Tropes page on Mary Sues: "She's exotically beautiful, often having an unusual hair or eye color, and has a similarly cool and exotic name. She's exceptionally talented in an implausibly wide variety of areas, and may possess skills that are rare or nonexistent in the canon setting. She also lacks any realistic, or at least story-relevant, character flaws — either that or her "flaws" are obviously meant to be endearing. She has an unusual and dramatic Back Story. The canon protagonists are all overwhelmed with admiration for her beauty, wit, courage and other virtues, and are quick to adopt her as one of their True Companions, even characters who are usually antisocial and untrusting; if any character doesn't love her, that character gets an extremely unsympathetic portrayal." Sound familiar?)

There is the Ourobous scene. And yet, paradoxically, while presented as an acknowledgment of her flaws, it is in fact a rejection of them. She sees her own brutality... and instead of recognizing that she has these deep, deep moral flaws and realizing that she needs to grow and be better, she in fact "accepts" them.

Guys: Self love means: "I'm important to me, so I'm going to get a massage today after work", or "heck, why not splurge on some expensive lotion, you only live once" or "you know what? I had a tough day today. I'm going to get that strawberry cupcake". SELF LOVE DOES NOT MEAN "oh, I accept all the war crimes I have done, I love myself". LOVING YOURSELF DOES NOT MEAN ABSOLVING YOURSELF OF ALL WRONGDOING.

It's this refusal to acknowledge wrongdoing that is so grating about ACOTAR. It's so goddamn one-sided. And you can tell that after Book 1, SJM decided to completely change the trajectory simply because of how jarring Book 2 reads compared to the first one.

Also: Feyre is a very, very young girl (compared to the other ruling fey) who did not know how to read for the majority of her life. She has no experience whatsoever in politics. Her being High Lady is not a win for feminism.

Rhysand: He Sucks

First, he is 500 years old. He should be written as such, not as some 20 year old virile frat boy feminist. Fantasy is all the more compelling for its elements of realism, which is a concept that SJM does not appear to grasp.

Second of all, his morals are absurd. He is written as the Second Coming of Christ, as someone who can do no wrong, ever, and his flaws only serve to make Feyre love him more. Anything shitty he does is written as part of his "mask" and she can See Beneath It and knows that it "hurts" him to maintain this "mask".

Fellas, WHY DOES HE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THIS MASK???? There is no reason for it. If A) he does not give a shit about Court of Nightmares (we'll get back to that), only about Velaris, and B) Velaris is hidden/protected from the world, what is he pretending for?

It would not hurt him politically to be seen as someone who cares about his country.

"Pretending" to be "Amarantha's whore" does not in any way shape or form benefit the macro-world that is Prythian. In Amarantha's name, he commits atrocities. He commits war crimes; he systemically oppresses entire societies. It doesn't even really benefit Velaris, because Velaris is already hidden.

Let me put this in a real-world perspective. This would be like if Donald Trump was suddenly like: "I know I was a shitty president but IT WAS ALL PART OF MY MASK, WHICH WAS TO PROTECT THIS MICROCOSM OF PRIVILEGED PEOPLE THAT I CARE ABOUT". Like: okay? Sorry, or whatever, but I don't actually give a shit. What about the parents of the children who died? What about Clare Beddor? What about the people who were held in slavery, murdered, tortured?

Rhysand: omg it sucks that my cousin Mor was oppressed by this toxic misogynistic culture from the Court of Nightmares.

Also Rhysand: lol whatever, who gives a shit about Court of Nightmares. They all suck. They meanie. Lol what did you say? That there might be other girls just like Mor who are oppressed by this system? Lol whatever. I can't do anything, I gotta maintain my Mask. I gotta sit on this throne and show the entire Court that not respecting women is completely okay.

In summary: by parading Feyre around as his "whore" (!!) he demonstrates by example that it is completely okay for the Court of Nightmares to abuse their women.

A good ruler cares about all his people. Rhysand cares about a tiny tiny fraction of his people: those who were fortunate enough to be born into Velaris.

God, I'm exhausted. Onto Nesta:

The only character who successfully breaks the Mary Sue effect Feyre exerts on her people is Nesta. Her POV for the first half is a joy to read.

Obviously it sucks that Nesta was a huge bitch to Feyre for the beginning of her childhood. However, it was wrong for Rhysand to threaten her- he is a man male with a huge insane amount of power, and it is not okay for him to threaten to bring the brunt of it down on a young girl because she was a bitch to his girlfriend.

I've seen a lot of discourse on the morality of F/R sending her out of Velaris. Here is my two cents:

It was okay for them to cut her off of their money. If they don't want to enable her self-harm, that is their choice. Again, it's their money, even if it wasn't fairly earned (Rhysand born into an enormous fortune).

It was not okay for them to banish her from Velaris with the implication that she was an embarrassment. Let me explain.

If Rhysand and Feyre are talking to her as sister/brother-in-law, then that is that. They have the complete right to express disapproval and try to help. However, they should not be using their royal privilege against her.

If they are talking to her as ruler to subject, then they have the power to banish her from the city. However, a ruler would not give a shit about a random subject getting drunk and having sex. So, they should not be talking her about her problems as a ruler to subject.

I've heard it compared to her being sent to rehab. However, rehab is a system designed to help people with certain problems. It has specialized medical centers and involves therapy. Nesta gets her life threatened multiple times. It is not rehab.

In summary: why did SJM inflict this upon us. Throne of Glass was actually good! GAHHH! After the first few books she completely whipped around and introduced the idea of males and mates and fey and that C is actually A and the quality took a huge nosedive. Sigh.

Final horrible but unmistakable truth: The entire ACOTAR series reads like a bad A/B/O fic. I hate to say it but it's true. We're lucky there were no heat cycles. OH WAIT

#anti sjm #anti rhysand #anti acotar #anti acofas #anti acomaf #anti everything #anti feyre #to some extent #mentioned: the locked tomb #mentioned: gideon the ninth #mentioned: harrowhark nonagesimus #anti #strongly anti #pan-int #that's my ao3 tag!#meta #my post

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sandlessdesert · 3 years

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mxy recovery in yiling au

resident mo xuanyu liker here to give yall more mxy and his found family in yiling.

please check out the other parts first!

PART 1 | PART 2 | ADD. INFO (you are here!)

im not super concrete on the timeline/how things play out, as this is more just driven by the whims of me wanting to see mo xuanyu happy :D. i’d love to hear your ideas on how this comes to be.

as previously stated, wei wuxian and the wens manage to live in relative peace in the burial mounds.

five years after wwx dies in canonverse, a sixteen year old mo xuanyu is removed from the lanling jin sect, and escapes mo manor a few months after his mothers death.

wei wuxian begins teaching mxy safe practices for demonic cultivation given the few times hes tried to demonstrate it for him gave wwx a heart attack and nearly sent both of them to wen qing.

wwx would have preferred to NOT teach him demonic cultivation, but mxy at this point isn’t really used to relationships where he isn’t explicitly being used for something and therefore is trying to be “useful” so he doesn’t get discarded. wwx would prefer to let him have a choice over what that use is than force him to do something.

over time mxy realizes what wwx is doing and that he really just wanted for him to have a means to protect himself. this takes a long time though.

shortly after, a 9 year old wen yuan is a bit jealous that mxy is stealing his xian-gege’s time and being allowed into the demon slaughtering cave when no one else is really allowed to. wwx explains mxy is allowed in because he’s his disciple. a-yuan declares himself wwx’s new disciple on the spot!

wwx, unable to say no to his a-yuan, wwx takes him in as a “student” aka just letting him run small errands that are safe. (although eventually, wwx does begin teaching him basics of cultivation when he’s old enough)

two years later, (i’m a bit unclear on the canon timeline here so correct me if this doesn’t make sense) xue yang defects from the jin sect through boredom or inconvenience, before he actually kills anyone, eventually seeking out the infamous yiling patriarch. his ability for demonic cultivation is much lower than the canonverse given that no one has been able to raid and sieze wwx’s research post-mortem because he isn’t... well, dead.

some character relationship things under the cut! this got longer than i thought it would fhsdjhf.

as wwx has three students and TECHNICALLY xue yang joined last, actual child wen yuan calls adult xue yang “mei-xiao shidi” and xue yang nearly threw hands with the kid in response. wwx and mxy bribe xy with candy or something to call him “yuan-shixiong” he is 100% doing this to be a little shit because he’s being raised by wwx, not lwj here.

similarly, mxy is “da shixiong” but more often just “yu-ge/yu-gege” according to wen yuan.

the three disciples have been trying to get wwx and lwj together after watching them somehow not get together for literal years and its EXHAUSTING.

everyone thought maybe a-yuan’s innocent teases of calling lwj nd wwx father and mother would have done something?? to hint at it? but it doesnt work?

xue yang tries being direct with wwx but wwx clearly doesnt take it to heart. obviously he’s just being rude or playing a prank or something.

mxy is in pain seeing someone as pretty as lwj throw himself at wwx where wwx doesnt even notice meanwhile his own love life is absolutely awful, not really being able to shake the reputation of his past life in the jin sect or his current life where he lives in the burial mounds with the wen remnants.

mxy and wwx work together to create spiritual devices and sell/distribute the safer and more practical inventions to the locals of yiling to make money.

xy and mxy are fiercely loyal to wwx, but do not hesitate to chew him out to wen qing. xue yang will also physically fight him if he’s spouting bullshit and mxy isn’t in the vicinity (both for mxy’s sake and because he would try stopping xy.)

i wanna be clear, while this is a recovery au, wwx and everyone else in the burial mounds are not perfect nor are they therapists. all of them are dealing with their own trauma, wwx in particular can be unstable and explosive from time to time. being in the burial mounds is HARD and they will occasionally unfairly lash out at each other or do the wrong thing. they can never “fix” mxy or his trauma or erase his past abuse. but the point of this au is that despite their issues, despite them sometimes unintentionally hurting their loved ones they are found family and they care about each other deeply. through mutual love and respect and patience he didn’t get before, mxy does get to recover :)

random other things (mostly just wen yuan stuff because he’s my favourite character)

wen yuan is learning the basics of normal cultivation as well as demonic cultivation and is developing a golden core. wei wuxian gifted him suibian since it’s sort of useless to him.

lan wangji visits from time to time to check in and play cleansing for them all. one day he teaches wen yuan how to play it on the xiao when he’s not around (lmao you think they have the ability to maintain a guqin given the circumstance?). everyone in the burial mounds loves when lwj comes around to play since it usually ends up with a small concert of three echoing out of the cave.

#mo xuanyu #mxy recovery au #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation #written as gen ship but the more i work on this the more it seems like subtle xueyu #ryn talks a lot

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