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anxietea413 · 27 days
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nico di angelo is an icon. he is the moment. he is everything. “with great power comes great need to take a nap.” ICONIC I TELL YOU. AND I HAVE ALSO NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ELSE TRUE-ER. also can we talk about how strong this kid is. bro entered and made it out of tartarus twice. as a matter of fact he went there alone and faced a primordial goddess who scared zeus the god of all gods twice. lets be honest, nyx's phrasing in tsats was kinda offsetting and weird. “our children.” and he survived in a minuscule glass jar with simply pomegranate seeds for almost a week? he transported the athena parthenos across the globe with two other people? that is strength at its finest.
the kid they're (probably) going to cast as nico is most definitely an incredible actor. he's going to have to depict the change to a sad little Italian boy from a kid who loved his sister (rip biana u are missed) and was obsessed with mythomagic cards.
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the-ghost-of-nyx · 1 year
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Solangelo
Nico: Sure, I don't get a "healthy" amount of sleep like some people do, but can they have their blood pressure drop as fast as THIS?
Nico: *Stands up and immediately blacks out*
Will, rushing to catch him: Neeks, nO-
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k-llforme · 1 month
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I'll tell you.
I have never truly seen a more fitting character to be headcanon-ed as Italian than Barty Crouch Jr.
(And I'm Italian, bro)
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iseetheuniverse · 1 year
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I need everyone to know that the translation for "is he gay or European" in Italian is "is he gay or French"
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lluvguts · 4 months
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luberto becoming canon in 2024 was not on my bingo card
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lukasadss · 4 months
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The luberto news,, oh I'm in shambles /pos
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malewifespike · 2 years
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like not to sound paranoid but seeing that there was another gay bar shooting (Oslo london) rly just confirms the anxiety I’ve been having about being in lgbt spaces throughout my europe trip. we went to a well known gay club in Milan last night and my friend and I were actively anxious about potential danger being in that space. hate it here
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theophagie-remade · 2 years
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Happy beginning of pride month I'm using today as an excuse to complain about something that's been on my mind for a while but like most things of usamerican origin some branches of the Slur Discourse™ in these past years have made their way over here too and two responses to the whole thing that I've noticed to be rather common are "it's useless to discuss [X] because there's no equivalent of it in our language" and "well, these kinds of arguments didn't use to be a thing here, so who cares". I won't get into the former here, but the latter... Do you not remember what happened when Immanuel Casto released Da grande sarai fr**io? Because you sound like you do not remember what happened when Immanuel Casto released Da grande sarai fr**io
#*i didn't censor it Just Because that's the actual title of the song and knowing the guy he probably did it exactly out of irony#mytext#rl#i said i wouldn't get into the other thing but actually i DO feel like getting into it SORRY#the whole ''there's no point in using a foreign word'' bit perplexes me too because it's applied in very arbitrary ways#meaning: lots of people know the meaning of and even use terms like butch dyke etc but have this very adverse reaction to queer#which is pretty ??? imo#what i mean is up until ~10ish years ago words like gay and lesbica were commonly used as slurs here in italy too#(at least where i am and personally i couldn't count all the times that growing up someone used lesbica against me as an insult if i tried)#and then it became less common which is the same process that happened in the anglophone world#and then you have these words that don't exist in italian but were/are being adapted to make up for this lack#and that by virtue of being loan words don't have any of the connotations that they might have had/have in certain parts of the anglosphere#and what throws me off is this difference of treatment because literally everything was born as a slur even our ''native'' words#(> see: the response to ic's causal use of frocio in da grande sarai fr**io)#and like. i don't really know how to say this in an eloquent way but. if you think that it's stupid of people to use foreign words or#engage with the discourse whilst using yourself foreign words then... what are people supposed to call you... if not an hypocrite...#italy
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banished-away · 7 months
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headspace-hotel · 10 months
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What i've been learning thru my research is that Lawn Culture and laws against "weeds" in America are deeply connected to anxieties about "undesirable" people.
I read this essay called "Controlling the Weed Nuisance in Turn-of-the-century American Cities" by Zachary J. S. Falck and it discusses how the late 1800's and early 1900's created ideal habitats for weeds with urban expansion, railroads, the colonization of more territory, and the like.
Around this time, laws requiring the destruction of "weeds" were passed in many American cities. These weedy plants were viewed as "filth" and literally disease-causing—in the 1880's in St. Louis, a newspaper reported that weeds infected school children with typhoid, diphtheria, and scarlet fever.
Weeds were also seen as "conducive to immorality" by promoting the presence of "tramps and idlers." People thought wild growing plants would "shelter" threatening criminals. Weeds were heavily associated with poverty and immortality. Panic about them spiked strongly after malaria and typhoid outbreaks.
To make things even wilder, one of the main weeds the legal turmoil and public anxiety centered upon was actually the sunflower. Milkweed was also a major "undesirable" weed and a major target of laws mandating the destruction of weeds.
The major explosion in weed-control law being put forth and enforced happened around 1905-1910. And I formed a hypothesis—I had this abrupt remembrance of something I studied in a history class in college. I thought to myself, I bet this coincides with a major wave of immigration to the USA.
Bingo. 1907 was the peak of European immigration. We must keep in mind that these people were not "white" in the exact way that is recognized today. From what I remember from my history classes, Eastern European people were very much feared as criminals and potential communists. Wikipedia elaborates that the Immigration Act of 1924 was meant to restrict Jewish, Slavic, and Italian people from entering the country, and that the major wave of immigration among them began in the 1890s. Almost perfectly coinciding with the "weed nuisance" panic. (The Immigration Act of 1917 also banned intellectually disabled people, gay people, anarchists, and people from Asia, except for Chinese people...who were only excluded because they were already banned since 1880.)
From this evidence, I would guess that our aesthetics and views about "weeds" emerged from the convergence of two things:
First, we were obliterating native ecosystems by colonizing them and violently displacing their caretakers, then running roughshod over them with poorly informed agricultural and horticultural techniques, as well as constructing lots of cities and railroads, creating the ideal circumstances for weeds.
Second, lots of immigrants were entering the country, and xenophobia and racism lent itself to fears of "criminals" "tramps" and other "undesirable" people, leading to a desire to forcefully impose order and push out the "Other." I am not inventing a connection—undesirable people and undesirable weeds were frequently compared in these times.
And this was at the very beginnings of the eugenics movement, wherein supposedly "inferior" and poor or racialized people were described in a manner much the same as "weeds," particularly supposedly "breeding" much faster than other people.
There is another connection that the essay doesn't bring up, but that is very clear to me. Weeds are in fact plants of the poor and of immigrants, because they are often medicinal and food plants for people on the margins, hanging out around human habitation like semi-domesticated cats around granaries in the ancient Near East.
My Appalachian ancestors ate pokeweed, Phytolacca americana. The plant is toxic, but poor people in the South would gather the plant's young leaves and boil them three times to get the poison out, then eat them as "poke salad." Pokeweed is a weed that grows readily on roadsides and in vacant lots.
In some parts of the world, it is grown as an ornamental plant for its huge, tropical-looking leaves and magenta stems. But my mom hates the stuff. "Cut that down," she says, "it makes us look like rednecks."
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muirneach · 1 year
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really enjoying the part of mean streets where there is four italian mobsters on the run and one outrageously gay man in one car
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gracelyns · 2 years
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so, yesterday I went to rome pride
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not to post like it’s still 2022 but how did nobody notice that goncharov was a Macbeth adaptation???
like. we’ve got our troubled protag (macbeth/goncharov) whose ambitious wife (lady mac/katya) pressures him into clawing his way to the top of a violent power structure (scotland’s monarchy/the italian mafia). he ends up ordering the death of a former friend because said friend realizes what he’s done (sending assassins after banquo/sending ice pick joe after mario, but the latter has more emotional depth since joe and mario were friends). valery takes on the role of the witches by supplying goncharov with ominous warnings and hinting that all is preordained as he tries to bring goncharov to justice. in reaction, goncharov attempts to destroy potential threats (sending ice pick after andrey and sofia, who survive because of joe’s failure to go through with it and subsequent death in the church scene), paralleling the assassination of the macduff family. it’s also when we get that sweet gunfight amid the historical ruins, but that’s not important rn. when katya learns that goncharov tried to have sofia killed, she breaks down and tries to shoot him on the bridge scene (“if you loved me you wouldn’t have missed” etc etc) before almost throwing herself over the edge, bringing to mind lady macbeth’s mental collapse and subsequent suicide. instead of birnam wood coming to dunsinane, we get the boat scene. when goncharov asked valery why he was so determined to bring him back to russia to be prosecuted instead of just killing him, valery told goncharov “you’re untouchable so long as you’re on Italian soil” and the boat isn’t technically on Italian soil. andrey and goncharov have their stand-off at the ship’s wheel, symbolizing their fight for control over the system. meanwhile, sofia and katya make their escape, getting the chance to survive and leave the system of violence that killed their shakespearean counterparts. goncharov doesn’t know that katya is still alive, so his speech winding up his pocketwatch when he’s talking about how her time ran out and how nothing could stop the clocks? that was his “tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow” moment! when andrey shoots goncharov and DOESN’T MISS, it’s not just gay, it’s his “man of no woman born” parallel. he managed to do what nobody else could. but this movie has no malcolm character to bring the system back to normal and take the throne/lead the mafia. it’s just andrey at the wheel. and the deafening ticking of goncharov’s pocketwatch, laying face-open in the pool of blood, before it runs out of time and winds down for good.
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Am I the asshole for not wanting to go out for dinner with Granddaddy?
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My (43, FtM) husband's (39,M) family experienced several very grievous losses, including my husband's stepdad and his maternal grandmother, in 2022. MIL is not taking things well, which is to be expected, but she has a tendency to use hubby's deceased dad against him if he can't or does not wish to do something (e.g. bursting into tears and going "I wish your dad was still here, he would have known how to fix the chainsaw and trimmed the trees!" "I wish your dad was still here, HE wouldn't have told me to call a plumber for the toilet!" Also going on utterly unrelated rants that upset everyone in our home and blaming it on her grief.) Worth noting she hasn't ever pulled these tricks with hubby's younger brother (27M) despite him living with her. Also worth noting that she has said some really nasty things about me, my gender and sexuality over the last few years simply because I encourage him to stand up for himself, and has apologised to him but never to me. Nonetheless, we are family and we abide. (This is relevant backstory, I do not need to be told she sucks, we been knew.)
PRESENT! Since Grandmother (hubby's grandmother, who hated me even more openly than MIL does for being trans and turning her grandson gay, and always played her kids, grandkids and great grandkids against each other) died, Granddaddy (84M, hubby's grandfather) has been a bit at sea. "NTA!" i can hear you shouting, but Granddaddy is actually a solid dude-- has never misgendered me, is unfailingly kind to me and has always made me feel like part of the family in a way *no one else* in hubby's family does. He's lovely, funny, intelligent-- used to work in aeronautics and loves that i love his sci fi books, and adores exchanging silly cheesy jokes with me when we hang out. He's *great!* 10/10 Granddaddy.
MIL is of the opinion that Graddaddy needs to be taken out to dinner *every night*. He can never have a night alone; he can never call an uber to go out by himself; and we certainly cannot make a meal and take it to his home to eat in. He MUST be taken out to dinner EVERY night because it's the only social interaction he gets.
It's killing our wallet, y'all-- we aren't poor, but we have three kids. We've whittled it down to us taking him out twice a week, but he doesn't want to go to McDonald's, he wants to go to the local Italian or fish place, and it's *not* cheap, especially when paying for six! MIL "takes him out" five times a week (which usually means dropping him off and going to the gym while he makes waitresses uncomfortable because he's from a different generation), but she has decided two days a week are on us (we aren't just going to drop him for play dates because that doesn't make him OR the waitstaff happy!). Mind, we never agreed to this-- she just decided it, and if we argue against it we get hysterics about hubby's dad.
I am autistic and truly do not like going out more than a couple times a month at most. I have urgently suggested that I could make dinner at Granddaddy's a couple times a month, but this is NOT acceptable according to MIL. We HAVE to go out, he's GRIEVING and LONELY, isn't he?
No, no one has actually asked Granddaddy how he would feel about this, and I am a monster for even asking them to.
AITA?
What are these acronyms?
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ernmark · 1 year
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During yet another quick research dip into Wikipedia, I stumbled across Macaroni fashion in the 1700s.
As in "Stuck a feather in his hat / and called it Macaroni"
I was aware before now that Macaroni referred to the Macaroni Club-- though I had been told that it was an actual fashionable club in Italy, whereas Wikipedia claims that it's a ribbing term for men who took a Grand Tour in Europe and became Worldly and Cosmopolitan as a consequence-- a club that's entered by doing a thing, rather than a specific group of people who know each other (the way we use the Mile High Club in the modern day). The name itself references the fact that people who'd spent time in Italy would come back with a taste for pasta.
Macaroni gentlemen were fashionable. Very fashionable. Kinda extremely so. Which leads us to caricatures like these of such people:
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But what really struck me was a contemporary description of members of the Macaroni Club:
"There is indeed a kind of animal, neither male nor female, a thing of the neuter gender, lately started up among us. It is called a macaroni. It talks without meaning, it smiles without pleasantry, it eats without appetite, it rides without exercise, it wenches without passion." -- The Oxford Magazine, 1770
Now take the above caricature and compare it to this one:
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Because when you look at the Fashionable Gentleman in this (yes, racially insensitive) cartoon, he's got big hair, sure, but nowhere near as big of hair as either of the Macaronis were portrayed as having. And for all his fashion sense, he's missing the Macaroni ruffles. His lady friend, however, is not.
Another quote from the Wikipedia page:
Design historian Peter McNeil links macaroni fashion to the crossdressing of the earlier molly subculture, and says "some macaronis may have utilized aspects of high fashion in order to affect new class identities, but others may have asserted what we would now label a queer identity".
And the thing that really gets me is that not too long ago, I noticed another bit of queer history from this rough time period, specifically the Italian cicisbeo-- often an openly gay man who'd act as a woman's companion at social events in place of her husband.
And I wonder how many young people went on their Grand Tour, stopped in Italy to see all these openly gay people in parties, and came back having learned a thing or two about themselves. And meanwhile the folks back home are all going "seriously, what's going on in Italy that's making all our boys turn androgynous? Is it the pasta? Must be the pasta."
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fantasybooktournament · 10 months
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Book Reveals for Round 1 of Mystery Book Tournament
titles and descriptions under the cut
The One with The Obnoxious Legal System is A Conspiracy of Truths by Alexandra Rowland
The world's most obnoxious old man has been arrested for charges of witchcraft by the world's most obnoxious legal system. The story follows him utilizing every tool at his disposal to escape death including his fruity apprentice, his ever-tired lawyer, and most of all stories. Half of this book is the old man telling a story to someone he is either trying to sway, trick, or simply entertain.
The One with the Rightful Heir is Magyk by Angie Sage
A child soldier nearly freezes to death and so must join the escape of the rightful heir, a powerful wizard, and the rightful heir's bumbling dad, brother and dog.
The One with No Indoor Plumbing is In Other Lands by Sarah Rees Brennan
Have you ever thought ‘hey going to a magical fantasy land might suck a little’? Our intrepid hero has been invited to a school for future heroes in a land of elves and trolls, harpies and mermaids…and there’s no indoor plumbing. Also they’re training children as warriors and have little to no respect for diplomacy.
The One with Vampires and Farms is The Queen of Darkness by Miguel Connor
In the far-flung future, the earth is irradiated and vampires rule the world. Humans are kept in farms, and our protagonist is sent to one to learn about an illness that is appearing in the humans which can infect and kill vampires. There he learns about the human cult, and gets told by them that vampires were once human.
The One with Possessed Nuns is Vespertine by Margaret Rogerson
A young nun in fantasy-France lets a powerful revenant take possession of her body in order to protect her monastery from possessed soldiers. No one believes she can possibly control the evil creature, but as she uncovers a sinister plot at the very heart of her country, she finds herself growing closer to the revenant by the day.
The One that Becomes Queernormative is A Strange and Stubborn Endurance by Foz Meadows
Protagonist starts off in a queer phobic society and is bound to marry a girl from the neighboring kingdom against his wishes, being gay. When his sexuality is dramatically revealed after he's being assaulted, the political bets seem off, but the other kingdom is queernormative and instead offers to marry him to his bride's brother instead.
The One with Sisters and Unsuitable Men is An Earthly Knight by Janet McNaughto
The main character's older sister has run away with an unsuitable man so it's up to her to marry a suitable one. But as she worries for her sister and hopes to find her, she encounters a strange man, rumored to have been kidnapped by the fae.
The One with the Magic Italian Notebook is City of Masks by Mary Hoffman
The main character, a young boy, is seriously ill but his life is transformed when an old Italian notebook gives him the power to become a stravagante, a time traveler with access to 16th century Italy. He wakes up in another time and place during carnival time and meets a girl his own age who is disguised as a boy in the hope of being selected as one of the Duchessa's mandoliers. Political intrigue ensues.
The One with the War Against Colonizers is Fire Logic by Laurie J Marks
The last living member of a border tribe, a deadly philosopher-soldier, a truth-seer, a gentle man, and a man who can see the future form a beautifully queer family around a drug-addicted blacksmith who holds the power of the land itself so that she can end the war against colonizers that has continued for 30 years
The One with the Healer's Quest is Dreamer's Pool by Juliet Marillier
The first in a mystery fantasy trilogy about a wrongfully imprisoned healer and her quiet but strong prison friend who get busted out of prison by an otherworld being. In exchange, for seven years she must endeavor to help anyone who asks for it. A gentle local prince has fallen for his fiance through their sweet and poetic correspondence but is shocked by her cruelty when she arrives, can the healer discovers what has happened and help solve his problem?
The One with Imaginary Friends is Hexwood by Diana Wynne Jones
A pre-teen girl who relies heavily on the advice of her four imaginary friends goes into the local patch of woodlands one day and discovers it's much bigger on the inside. There, she meets a depressed sorcerer/assassin who makes a child out of her blood and his to fight against his enemies on another planet. Meanwhile, someone on Earth has started up a machine that's said to be able to make dreams come true, and this is a big problem for the evil interstellar megacorp that's been dumping prisoners on Earth and stealing their flint.
The One with a Time-Traveling Dragon/Furnace is If That Breathes Fire, We're Toast! by Jennifer J. Stewart
A boy moves with his mom to a new place where he meets a girl and a time-traveling dragon/furnace who teaches him about himself.
The One with the Multiverse is Nine Princes in Amber by Roger Zelazny
An amnesiac man finds himself embroiled in deadly political scheming, thrust into a strange multiverse in the hope of trying to claim from out under his various rival siblings feet the throne to the city at the center of reality.
The One with Mage Trials is Spellslinger by Sebastian de Castell
In a magical society one must complete their mages trials by 16, or else become a slave to that society for the rest of their life. The main character is a 15-year-old boy who has one last chance to complete his trials. Only, his magic is gone. With his fate looming, he meets a mysterious traveling stranger who shows him a different path than the one that has been laid out for him by his people.
The One with the Loser Noble Scholar is Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
Loser noble scholar shacks up with the best swordsman of the city and makes him fight a bunch of duels mostly out of boredom but also a bit because of politics. Feels slice of life ish though there are stakes
The One with the Nonbinary Cleric is The Empress of Salt and Fortune by Nghi Vo
In this novella set in an imperial Chinese inspired fantasy world, a nonbinary cleric investigates the story of an empress and her ...controversial rise to the throne, as told by an elderly handmaiden who knew her.
The One with Geese is Thorn by Intisar Khanani
Between her cruel family and the contempt she faces at court, the Princess has always longed to escape the confines of her royal life. But when she’s betrothed to the powerful prince, the princess embarks on a journey to his land with little hope for a better future. When a mysterious and terrifying sorceress robs the princess of both her identity and her role as princess, the girl seizes the opportunity to start a new life for herself as a goose girl.
The One with the Teenage Witch Coven is The Scapegracers by H. A. Clarke
Lesbian teenage witch accidentally becomes adopted by popular girls. They form a coven and vow to get revenge on those who have been wronged. Chaos ensues.
The One with the Angel and the Demon is When the Angels Left the Old Country by Sacha Lamb
A demon and an angel decide to go to de goldene medina to search for a girl they know who's disappeared on the way over.
The One with an Unsettling Future is Zel by Donna Jo Napoli
High in the mountains, a young girl lives with her mother, who insists they have all they need -- for they have each other. The girl's life is peaceful and protected -- until a chance encounter changes everything. When she meets a beautiful young prince at the market one day, she is profoundly moved by new emotions. But the girl's mother sees the future unfolding -- and she will do the unspeakable to prevent her daughter from leaving her...
The One with the Bioweapon is Hell Followed With Us by Andrew Joseph White
It's post an apocalypse, that was started by a cult, that twists people into horrible body horror monsters. A trans boy raised in the cult is infected with a bioweapon by them and shortly after escapes. He joins a group of queer teens where he finds friends a community, and he bands together with them to take down the cult.
The One with Arabian Nights AND Hades & Persephone is Keturah and Lord Death by Martine Leavitt
Arabian Nights + Hades and Persephone! A mysterious danger plagues an unexpected kingly visit, and a young woman embarks on a quest to find her one true love before all is lost...
The One with the Lion is Sarah's Lion by Margaret Greaves
A princess longs to travel so is locked in her room. A lion comes to her. Eventually, she has to choose whether she will stay or go.
The One with the War Veteran is The Curse of Chalion by Lois McMaster Bujold
War veteran with chronic pain contracted by a goddess to save her chosen queen
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