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theladyofbloodshed · 1 year

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A little dive into Elsa's character... Spoilers for all of book 1 below

Elsa Sigrún Vesperis

Originally, Old was to be called Vesperis and it was to be an island kingdom in which Elsa was the princess who had to be smuggled out for her safety. I then thought “nah” as it was done to death, but I quite liked the name Vesperis. I just picked the name Elsa because I liked it and wanted to have Barin call her Elsy. Then I was visiting my grandma and one of her brothers had been researching the family tree. Unbeknownst to me, my great-grandma was actually called Elsy which was a weird coincidence.

Halvor’s name was Loki in the first draft then Thor came out and everybody named their dog that so that was changed. Halvor is from the Old Norse meaning “guardian” which suits him well. He’s always been a wolf hound in every draft.

The Chosen One

Although Elsa is “the chosen one”, I got tired of it being so prevalent in YA books where the character willingly took up the mantle with very little resistance. Elsa digs her heels in. She doesn’t want to leave home. She has constant doubts about her ability. She criticises Mazir, Cyrus, and Hakilian for not knowing more information and essentially leaving her in the dark.

Often, the Chosen One suddenly has an influx of power, they’re incredible with weapons etc. With Elsa, she’s really not good with weapons. She has no desire to get better without being forced to – and really doubts her ability to use it from a moral perspective.

Love Triangle

I’m never a huge fan of love triangles, so I tried to make it explicit in the Story of Old that although Elsa has both Barin and Felix in her life, Barin really is just a brother from another mother. (Barin will get more of a personal story in book 2). They are the only link to Old that each other has so they’re close due to that, but there is no desire for either of them. In an earlier draft, they did kiss in Lazarin during an argument, but it confirmed to both that there was no lust there. I decided to scrap it because I didn't like the scene.

Naivety

Often, heroines are gritty and worldly despite being teenagers. They’ve got supreme skills *ahem* world’s best assassin at 16. Elsa has never experienced life except from the rustic, fishing village of Old. She is naïve. She makes decisions that make you go arghhh no, Elsa, don’t be so stupid. But she is a teenager. She wants to forget about the Gods when she's sleeping beside Felix. She storms into danger when she's angry. But she will learn.

In book 2, she becomes much more independent and is forced to toughen up after the events of book 1. She goes through hell, but comes out the other side far stronger. By book 3, she’s almost unrecognisable. The same core is there, but Elsa is certain of herself, doesn’t rely on others to influence opinions, and makes her own decisions.

Beyond common sense, there’s nothing that makes Elsa “special”. She’s just thrust into the new world and forced to grow.

The Parentage Reveal

It’s a huge betrayal for Elsa to find out that her father had an affair – and that’s she is a product of that. It completely shifts her view of her father. Only Barin can understand her pain due to how strict Old’s rules are. Elsa worries that it will affect the Gods’ view of her, and worries how she’ll be perceived in Old. It will play an important role in book 2 with how Elsa views herself. Her anger towards Mac stays with her too because I found it so frustrating in books when massive betrayals are forgotten about after a few pages. papa archeron.

@nervousluminarypersona

#the story of old

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sapphroditewrites · 11 months

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this is gonna feel like a tangent but I promise it'll circle back around at the end

but the way the mcu handles the black widow/cap female cast feels so misogynistic once the topic of romance comes up & I'm scared of that course getting to Kate and Yelena b/c I do Not trust marvel

like the mcu already did Nat so dirty, but the comics aren't much better the way they had (mind controlled) Bucky train and groom her as one of the Red Room girls then to have them become sexual & Natasha still just gets pulled into Captain America comics just to be drawn in male gaze sexy poses over Bucky and then leave as if she's just a prop to "spice" things up

like she's not even a full Cap character but gets tossed in just for that, not that it's better for the Cap girls/the Craters the way they do the Aunt-Niece "love triangle" and have Sharon growing hearing all about Peggy's thing w/ Steve and watching old footage just to grow up and be the newer younger Carter for the same old man she watched growing up.

that part's even worse in the mcu b/c they used time travel + the loki show to confirm that he was her original uncle on top of all e existing weird shit! But at least the mcu didn't involve Bucky w/ the Red Room girls, thank G-d, but that's also where I'm worried b/c of the rumors w/ Yelena in the Thunderbolts movie. All the dudebros talk about Yelena like she's to "make up" for the fact that didn't get the Natasha "spicy" ship, and it just feels so misogynistic the way they keep getting treated like youthful "spicy" lampshades for the male Cap cast. I'm just praying marvel won't take inspo from the comics w/ her predecessors and push Yelena into a "spicy" ship for That audience 😞

i am SO sorry i didnt see this when you sent it but this is literally such a fucking valid and well worded rant bc you're so fucking correct

and honestly especially now with how everyone is suddenly turning their backs on the entire lgbtq community i'm fuckin terrified we're about to get some plain milquetoast ass love interests like i can taste it in the air

if they go for bucky and yelena, it will absolutely give off nat/bruce vibes and it will be uncomfortable and feel forced. i can imagine for kate they're gonna try to give her a citizen/regular love interest so that she has a reason to not go 'full hero' or whatever the fuck

but at the same time i also feel like disney is really kinda,, heavily beefing with ron desantis and at this point and i almost think they're close to the 'fuck you' full throttle thing? but maybe i'm just trying to be optimistic

#i mean technically spiderman isn't owned by disney so maybe im really just holding out hope for nothing #BUT #they do seem to be pushing back a LOT and testing the envelope #corporate pride sucks yes but when it's fucking mega corps like disney i gotta say im takin that as a W

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work-your-loki · 3 years

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i'm once again thinking of the narrative choice the show made to not allow loki and sylvie to realize their feelings organically and independently, but rather have them literally be planted in their heads by a (biased) outsider.

i'm once again thinking that in the same scene this theory was introduced, it was called sick and twisted.

i'm thinking about the very specific acting choices in that scene.

about how sophia di martino doesn't once call it love in the interview, but "those feelings" and "that way".

about the choice not to show us the discussion in the car and to allow us to see or hear sylvie's reaction. about leaving it up to interpretation what loki was going to say before he got pruned.

about how if loki is on a hero's journey and is meant to overcome his flaws, and we assume he's a narcissist (still not sold on this), falling in love with another version of himself is not overcoming, it's just indulging.

about how quick showrunners were to confirm that it's a romance, which feels so odd, since they're usually a lot more coy and teasing about such things.

I'm thinking about michael waldron saying he pitched the show as a love story, but kate herron saying they decided to hone in on the loki/sylvie connection later in the filming process. and about how she was careful to say "not necessarily romantic".

about how something just feels different about the show. maybe it's the fact that so many women are involved behind the scenes? the complete absence of toxic masculinity that permeates so many other mcu projects? can't quite put my finger on it, but i'm feeling it all the same.

i'm thinking about that article that first broke the news that the show would confirm loki's bisexuality (true) and that he would have one female (true) and one male love interest (false/still pending?) was that idea scraped?

i'm thinking about the tired and overused cliche of the central trio consisting of one male hero, his emotional support male sidekick, and the spiffy, tomboyish female love interest (sylvie is obviously, and thankfully, far more complex than that). I'm thinking about how I was writing a story, I would love to subvert that, and how much fun it would be to first tell the story the regular, "normal" way, the way people are expecting it to play out.

about how this a show about loki, the ultimate trickster, but we haven't had a proper trick or twist yet. but if we did, and you went back and watched the entire series with fresh eyes, the narrative would still hold and you could say "ah, yes, i see where they were going with this."

about that line from frigga "always so perceptive about everyone but yourself" being repeated in the first episode and mobius saying "you do know yourself" and loki still getting it wrong.

about the strong visual choice to keep loki in the TVA outfit, which could have many thematic reasons, but at the same time always serves as a constant visual connection, always keeps them matching. especially in the last episode with everyone wearing outlandish, fantasy outfits.

i'm thinking about how we all immediately labeled it the "supermarket divorce", because it just felt like that. if you were writing this as a love triangle, would you have filmed that scene any other way? or would you have kept it exactly as it was?

about how the fandom is picking up vibes via fanart and memes that are immediately echoed in the next episodes. about all the fanfiction tropes we are so used to see confined in our corner of the internet, but we are so readily identifying on the show.

and ultimately i'm thinking that this post is probably going to age like milk by wednesday, but we only have a one day left where all timelines can still exist, before canon prunes all our theories and headcanons and hopes, so i want to go out full on clowning and not dreading.

EDIT: because this post gained more traction than i thought it would, I'm editing to say that you should also read this and this for a fuller picture and to make sure no one gets their feelings hurt by fictional bastards and money-grabbing capitalists.

#I was very hesitant to post this #becauce the way the showrunners are behaving on twitter is making me twitchy #but hey i'm so used to losing I won't even blink if the finale is a shit storm #those five episodes already gave us more than most ships get in years #loki spoilers #loki x mobius #lokius #mobius m. mobius #loki show #if we get a jet ski date I will consider it a win #no matter what else happens #my posts

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darkficsyouneveraskedfor · 3 years

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Fully Completely 2

Warnings: non-consent sex and rape (series), violence, mutual irritation.

This is dark!Loki x reader and explicit. 18+ only. Your media consumption is your own responsibility. Warnings have been given. DO NOT PROCEED if these matters upset you.

Series Synopsis: There’s a new face in Birch and he’s come to haunt your door.

Sister series to Smalltown Bringdown, When the Weight Comes Down, and Little Bones

Note: Here’s part two and things are getting aggressive fast.

Thanks to everyone for their patience and feedback. :)

I really hope you enjoy. 💋

<3 Let me know what you think with a like or reblog or reply or an ask! Love ya!

Chapter 2: Either it'll move me

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Usually your work kept you busy and if you were busy, you were content. Not that day. Not since that man ruined your lunch. You were so worked up that when you got back to the garage, you didn’t even finish your sandwich. You barely got anything done as what you did had to be redone in your distraction.

The night was little better as you planned to get the car done so the next time Loki bothered you, you could tell him to fuck off. If his headlight did come in before he left town, you’d send it down to Carl’s to have the work done. You would take the cost from what Bucky gave you to cover your time.

You were on your second coffee by the time you headed down to the garage, your apartment conveniently above as your existence was relegated to that single lot in Birch. At the bottom step you paused as you sipped from the travel mug and listened to the unexpected noise from behind the black door.

You locked all the doors at night, even that between the entryway and the garage that you kept propped open during the day. You stepped closer and tested the handle and bent to examine the lock. You glanced over at the painted front door and found that both had been picked.

Your fingers tightened on the mug. The last person to break into your garage, well, they weren’t around to bother you anymore after Jerome found out. You swung the door open and hauled the hot coffee across the garage towards the only sign of movement.

Loki sidestepped the splash, a few drops along his dark jacket, and continued to tighten and untighten the wrench. He looked at you nonchalantly and his mouth slanted. He shook his head as he let the tool hang perilously from his hand.

“Is this how you treat all your customers? This ungainly assault,” he peered down at the overturned cup beside his car.

“What the fuck are you doing in my garage?” you huffed as you marched over to him and reached for the wrench.

He gripped it tighter as you tried to snatch it from him and held you close as he sneered down at you.

“Two days,” he said “correct?”

“Tomorrow by my count,” you rebuked and pulled harder on the wrench, “not that it gives you any right to break into my garage and touch my stuff.” He let you yank the metal free of your grasp and you pointed it at his chin, “so leave or this time I won’t miss.”

He chuckled, barely bothered by the tool pointed at him as his green eyes sparkled, “your count is incorrect. I might be early but your work is due this evening so I will wait.”

“Not here,” you waved the wrench at him and grabbed his arm, “so get out and come back later then.”

His hand covered yours and he pried your fingers from him. He twisted your hand back and you gasped and swung the wrench with your other. You hit his shoulder as he raised his arm in defense and grunted at the sharp impact. He let you go and you swung again. He dodged and shoved you away from him.

“Do not presume to put your hands on me,” he warned, “you know who my brother is, that I associate with your cute local chapter--”

“I’m not one of them and I don’t report to them,” you snarled, “so get out now or you won’t be associating with anyone.”

“Mouthy little bitch,” he slithered, “you touch me again, or even attempt it--”

“I said get out,” you hit the hood of his car and left a dent, “It’ll be another day at least.”

His nostrils flared and his eyes narrowed. He fixed his jacket and sighed. He raised his chin and stiffly strode across the garage and through the black door. You followed feet behind him and made sure he continued outside. You cranked the lock behind him and listened to his footsteps crunch through the snow.

You might not report to Bucky and his goons but he was going to keep the rabble in line.

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It was just after noon but you knew Bucky would already be at The Asp. You ventured down the street in your heavy boots, your jacket flapping open in the wind as you were set on your destination and the conversation that awaited you. You nodded at the man who leaned a few feet from the door and sucked on a cigarette.

You entered and shook the snow off your lined denim jacket and kicked off your boots. You looked around at the mostly empty bar. You rarely went there as it was more trouble than you needed. The men were drunk and dirty and like many places in Birch, you just didn’t fit. You didn’t want to fit.

Bucky sat at his usual table, a woman you recognized beside him. She had been a year or two ahead of you in school and a couple behind Bucky himself. You knew she was his new girl but she never really looked happy about it. Knowing him, it didn’t surprise you. He always wanted more than he got.

You crossed to him and stood in front of the round table as his right-hand thug watched you curiously. You raised a brow at Steve and focused on the boss.

“We need to talk,” you said plainly.

“We do?” he asked genuinely confused, “I owe you something?”

“You do and you don’t. I’m not here about money,” you replied, “but it’s important.”

“Alright,” he pointed to the chair in front of you and gestured to his companions, planting a kiss on the woman’s lips before she stood, her lips slightly curled at the corner, and left you. He shifted in his chair as they went and nodded when he was ready, “sorry, if I knew you were on your way, I would’ve kept her in the back.”

You scoffed and shook your head. He was always obtusely arrogant. “I stopped fucking you, Buck, I don’t care who you’re with now.”

“Yeah, yeah, I remember,” he inhaled and placed his hand against the table, “so what is it?”

“This guy, Loki,” you began, “brought his car to me two nights ago.”

“Mhmm, I sent him down. I know I should come down myself but--”

“Please, you hate going down there,” you waved his words away, “it’s not about the car, it’s about him.”

“What about him?”

“He broke into my shop this morning. There was… well, I got a few licks in and for the sake of you I’ve held back but you need to keep him away from me. I’ll fix his car but I’m not dealing with him anymore. He’s a pompous asshole who thinks he can just do whatever he wants.” You stopped yourself, usually not one to go on at length, “he’s your… associate, as he would say it, so he can deal with you, not me.”

He considered you and pulled his hand back to scratch the stubble along his jaw. His blue eyes were intrigued if not surprised.

“He… coming onto you?” he asked.

“No,” you blinked at him dully, “no, he’s just annoying me. You promised me the shop would be my space. He picked my locks, Buck, so you let him know what’s what.”

“He’s new in town,” Bucky sighed, “but I’ll talk to him.”

“You better,” you stood, “because I don’t care about whatever business you got going on, the next time, I’m gonna pop his eye out with a--”

“Don’t be dramatic,” he snipped, “I’ll take care of him, alright?”

“You better,” you said as you backed away, “or you can find someone else to fix up your bikes.”

“Really? You know it won’t come to that,” he sat forward in irritation, “go, he won’t bother you.”

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The next day you looked over the front of the car. Aside from the cracked headlight, it was as good as new. You rolled up the garage door and took the keys from the hook. You drove the car out and steered it along the snowy street and parked just outside The Asp. You got out and headed inside to hand off the keys to Bucky with a promise that you would take care of the light when it came in as long as he kept Loki away.

You returned to the garage to close the door and checked the time. You were overdue for lunch and hadn’t been back to The Chipped Saucer since that eventful day. You were hungry and too lazy to climb up to your apartment and dig through your fridge.

You crossed the street and entered the diner as Kimmie looked up from the harlequin novel she hid behind as she stood by the till. She marked her page and closed it before she grabbed the carafe from the machine and crossed to your table. She poured you a mug and confirmed your usual order.

There were a few of the older residents enjoying pie and coffee at the other tables but the snow still kept many in their own houses. You might try the strawberry rhubarb before you went. You didn’t indulge in sweets often but it smelled good.

Kimmie brought your sandwich and as you finished the first triangle, you were disturbed by the last voice you wanted to hear. You didn’t look back as the door chimed behind the new patron and you continued chewing as you once more reviewed the newsletter.

To your chagrin but not unexpectedly, the figure appeared at your table side. You bit into the next portion of your club sandwich and ignored him.

“Hello, darling,” Loki sat across from you as he had days before, “I saw that you attended to my vehicle at last. Fine work, I must say. I do hope the headlight arrives soon.”

You said nothing and kept eating as you looked out the window and slid the newsletter aside with your other hand. You took the last gulp of your coffee and swallowed. You raised your cup and looked around, “‘scuse me,” you called out, “when you have a second.”

He laughed to himself and you felt his gaze on you. You pushed aside your uneaten crust and went about your meal as if he wasn’t there. When Kimmie refilled your coffee, he ordered a tea and a bowl of the daily soup.

You barely withheld your grimace as you watched Babs across the street by her bakery. She dusted snow off the open sign before she retreated back inside.

“I’m pleasantly surprised by the food here,” he mused as he stirred a plume of milk into his tea.

“Can’t you take a hint?” you snapped, “I don’t want you near me.”

“Believe me, at first, the feeling was mutual, darling,” he said.

“I told you not to call me that,” you frowned at him directly and he smirked.

“I like the way it makes your eyes go,” he taunted, “admittedly, that first meeting I would’ve liked nothing other than to never encounter you again but the more I poke and prod you, the more intrigued I am.”

“If you don’t stop--”

“You’ll go back to Barnes, hmm?” he intoned, “yes, he did speak with me but I might enlighten you on one fact. The man requires my business more than a mechanic, especially as there seems to be healthy competition in town.”

“You have your car, you’ll have the headlight done, and you can be on your way out of town,” you growled, “and you can be far away from me. Whatever stupid game you’re playing at, I’m not biting. I meant it when I said I won’t miss--”

“Darling, this is not an invitation,” his eyes strayed from your face for just a moment and he considered the buttons of your flannel shirt, “a man like me doesn’t ask, he expects.”

Your eyes rolled so hard it hurt. You pushed your plate away and pulled out your wallet. You left your tab on the table and stood. You shrugged into your jacket and glanced out the window at the white main street.

“Whatever you expect, it’s not going to happen,” you rebuffed, “but I told you what you can expect if you come around me again.”

You left as you had days before and stormed across the street without looking. You dodged out of the way of a slow rolling Ford as it honked and you waved them off. You stomped up to the front of your shop and realised too late you were being followed.

You spun around at the door to face Loki as he slid to a stop. He grabbed your arm and drew you back from the painted wood. You hit his chest and he barely flinched as he flicked your chin with his finger.

“Oh, darling, let’s not drag this out, I do love that temper--”

“Get off--” you pushed him and he nearly slipped and took you down with him as his leather soles held no traction on the frozen ground.

He threw you back and you hit the corner of the doorframe and gasped out as it forced the air from you.

“I promise you, it won’t last. I will damp out that flame and bask in the smoke,” he neared again and you kicked out. He fell to his knees as the force of it had you on your ass.

You crawled away from the wall as he tried to stand and you grabbed onto his leg and pulled him back down. He slid back to his kneeS and gripped the collar of your coat. You hooked your arm around his neck and he jabbed your stomach, not as hard as he could, but a warning.

You brought your other arm up as you struggled to get a foothold and you managed to push you both back. You fell in tandem into the snow, your arms locked as he forced his fingers under them to keep them from snaking tighter. He was strong and you knew you could only do so much. You had to keep him on the ground.

He elbowed your ribs and you released him sharply. You rolled away from him as you panted and scrambled on your hands and knees. The frigid snow seeped through your jeans and burned your palms. You heard him behind you and you turned as you climbed to your feet unsteadily.

He was half-keeled as he got his feet set and his dark hair hung over his forehead as he glared through the strands. He stood straight and pushed back the mess of tangles and you faced him, ready for another brawl.

“Oh, this will be fun, darling,” he brushed the powder from his suit and his cheek twitched, “You needn’t worry about Barnes, you should be more worried about me.”

He puffed out a breath and spun swiftly, nearly slipping again on the icy walk. He headed back down to the street and you saw the tension between his shoulders as he pulled his jacket straight. He hurried across the road and you turned back to the garage.

It was a brief retreat, a chance to plot, you knew that much. You only had to outlast him and if you were anything, it was stubborn.

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imposterogers · 3 years

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im happy loki is canonically bisexual confirmed verbally by the show and the director BUT as a bi person i think if there will be kissing/romance in the show and it is NOT also set up as a possibility that said kissing could be between loki and a man marvel are taking the cowards way out.

me @ marvel: love triangle love triangle love triangle

#they said they would now give it to me #loki #loki spoilers

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plutonicbees · 3 years

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how old is eli in the mcu??? has it been confirmed at all? if kate is supposed to be 22... just confused here

I was ranting to my friend before the stuff about hawkeye came out, and I had a theory that if they were to make wickling/billyteddy canon, they would make them a very very background relationship, something that could easily be cut out or dubbed over so that disney could still profit from china and russia when releasing young avengers stuff. [think loki's brief one-hand comment about liking princess and princes as his coming out, they'd do that type of thing]. they'd make the eli-kate-tommy triangle the main relationship to focus on, add a ton of drama and do a whole ass love triangle story. obviously not so sure about this now considering that kate is going to be much older.

I know cassie is 14 at the end of endgame, and will probably be older by the time the young avengers get together, and the actress for america is 15 (I think she actually might've been 14 at the start of filming for MoM), so she probably will be 15 as well.

anyways the idea of the young avengers in the mcu makes me very ranty and honestly gives me a headache, I am terrified :)

#eli bradley #kate bishop #billy kaplan #teddy altman #tommy shepherd #cassie lang #america chavez #young avengers #mcu #marvel

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mischiefvariant · 3 years

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anyone notice he tried change the subject when Sylvie says Mobius cares about you, it just felt bit weird . Is it but hinting/baiting at both ships but not confirming either really.

listen ok yeah that moment was so weird and there's been a couple of other ones like it where they simultaneously hint at both lokius and sylki and it's making me LOVE the idea of a sylvie/loki/mobius love triangle (saying this as someone who usually hates love triangles) cause oh my god could you imagine... the idea of loki choosing between a dilf and himself is so fucking funny. as long as they all stay friends tho i need that trio to live i love them all so much

#answered

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runnyeggsnham · 3 years

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"I hope you see this Anon"

D'aww thanks for thinking of me! I have read the article and yeah, it confirms the notion that there may be factions within the writing and production teams on how to tell the story, but no one agreed on what was best for the characters. It was like they were balancing "throwing a bone" at the queer community against making sure homophobic fans aren't put off by providing a pseudo-heterosexual love interest. A character, by the way, whose real plot function is to set up the multiverse and positioning Loki as a would-be hero. The problem, and I've learned this myself as a writer, is that the audience can tell when the artist is being genuine in their motivations or not.

Ironically, the way they set-up Sylvie cannot help but be compared with the way they set-up Mobius. They almost have more plausible deniability about the Mobius and Loki subtext if Sylvie hadn't been written as a counterpoint. And that highlights another problem: I had trouble connecting with Sylvie even though I wanted to like her. There was something about her character that felt either incomplete or unknowable, and that emotional distance is apparent in her interactions with Loki. It also doesn't help that the actors were directed to be like "teenagers inexperienced with love". That may be cute with teenagers, but in adults it looks super awkward. Not to say that these characters don't have challenges with love and trust, but the portrayal off those challenges simply felt "off".

Meanwhile, Mobius is set-up as the character who trusts Loki, wants to help, offers an opportunity to do something different, asks for help finding the Varient, and actually listens to what Loki has to say. He's definitely not perfect (i.e. his jealousy blow-up and nut-kicking punishment. Which honestly, I think was played for slapstick comedy as well as an emotional moment for the audience, and is not supposed to be perceived as full-blown torture as some fans believe).

It's kind of hilarious, but I think they created a love triangle without actually MEANING to.

No problem! 😄

Yeah, the production was all over the shop. And it's so weird how much of a circus the marketing campaign has been. Like, it feels like each group was told a different thing while they worked and now that it's aired, a memo was sent out to get everyone aligned? Because everyone was saying their own thing lol. Like not that they were all given a different story at the time, but that each group was given a different angle they were told to focus on...or some were like half-finished mission statements, which is the vibe I get from Holt's answers lol (like the quote about her doing the nexus event soundtrack more subtle first, but it didn't work, so she had to change it? Did no one tell her from the rip it was supposed to be a sweeping romantic moment?)

"Ironically, the way they set-up Sylvie cannot help but be compared with the way they set-up Mobius. They almost have more plausible deniability about the Mobius and Loki subtext if Sylvie hadn't been written as a counterpoint." Exactly! Excellent point! Mobius is the one introduced first and that has these types of moments with Loki first, so they really had to differentiate Sylvie right away with something more, a greater connection factor, to really emphasize why this one is romantic and the other is not. But...what is that, then? The nexus event?

Everything about that moment is undercut immediately by them bonding over what makes a Loki and Loki, which is a terrible time to remind the audience of their variant connection, and then within 10 minutes we get Mobius, our warm and calm and level character absolutely pained and freaking over the "narcissism" of it all...after making Loki pseudo-breakdown in the time loop room and come to that narcissistic conclusion himself? Like, okay, the writers can say it wasn't jealousy-motivated, but I'm sorry, you can't have Loki frame his narcissism as a bad thing...and then expect the audience not to agree with Mobius when he's using that same framing device to accost Loki for this romantic connection a few minutes later. Did the writers really not see what they were doing there, making that angle of a connection with Sylvie look like a regression for Loki's character? The heck??

And then Mobius gets specifically inserted into Loki and Sylvie's dynamic, so it's impossible to not compare the subtext of both when he's the one bringing Loki and Sylvie's dynamic for the audience from the subtext into the explicit text! And that's the problem, isn't it? One cannot look at Loki's growth - look at the choices Loki makes, the way he thinks and the points he fixates on, the clothes he's still wearing - by the time he meets Sylvie, compare that to how he started the show, and not consider the role Mobius played in that change.

Plus, Sylvie doesn't stop being presented as a counterpoint once she and Loki meet. The writers just keep doing it: Loki gets a chance to react to losing both of them, he gets a chance to feel betrayed by both of them, he gets similar conversations wherein he reflects on his growth with both of them, where he genuinely promises trust, and on and on. And the writers insert Mobius as the enabler or precursor of feelings discussions, twice; arguably the discussions that make Loki and Sylvie respectively think of each other in such a context. That's wild. And we the audience are not supposed to compare?

"It's kind of hilarious, but I think they created a love triangle without actually MEANING to." They did and it is hilarious! I actually find it hysterical. I'm just along for the ride, Anon, I have no expectations of canon anything personally, so just...to look at all the tropes they accidentally included? Pfft! Insane. Also, even the physical touches become prominent on rewatch to me, because Sylvie initiates all the ones with Loki (Lamentis twice, Void, Citadel) that get the camera's zoomed-in attention, but the ones that get that extra attention from the camera with Mobius are either Loki-initiated (tie) or offered by Mobius but left for Loki to make the decision (Pilot, Void).

"There was something about her character that felt either incomplete or unknowable, and that emotional distance is apparent in her interactions with Loki." Agreed, big time. Another reason I got to the finale and like I said last reply I think, I got this sinking feeling like 'oh, she's gonna be tragic and alone, isn't she?' The writers kept her too mysterious imo. She's sympathetic, but we ultimately know too little about her. And when she has opportunities to really open up to Loki, she doesn't. Which makes the romance feel all the more forced, to me, because if the writers are just going to create and use her for plot function at the end of the day, why not leave the romance up to interpretation or lean into a siblings thing so for the first time, completely unprovoked, Loki is the one in a sibling-type relationship to be betrayed? There's still love there. There's still heart-shattering pain for him to process. "...but in adults it looks super awkward." It really, really, really does. That "teenagers inexperienced with love" quote is...yeah.

"I think was played for slapstick comedy as well as an emotional moment for the audience, and is not supposed to be perceived as full-blown torture as some fans believe." I think you're right, Anon! Because we see Sif again too and get a mythological reference, and those bits are fun. It also reads imo like one of the few times Loki would've gotten...punished? For his mischief. So of all the memories Mobius could choose, he finds a rare instance of Loki not being protected by Thor or Frigga on Asgard for an act of mischief. And it's mischief on Loki's part, not malice or any of his truly bad wrongdoings, nothing of his torturous lost year before New York, etc. I really don't think Mobius considered what Sif said in that incident, because of how he reacted later. He's human. He's allowed to make a mistake. And Loki forgave him, to which Mobius immediately after essentially sacrificed his life for Loki, so. Really don't get that torture perspective of some. 😕

#lokius #wowki #//#////#(has anyone done a gif set of Loki indignant about losing his Asgardian leather and then how he proceeds #to love the jacket Mobius gave him and roll around in his TVA uniform long after he could change it... or....?#because if not...I am Tempted.#or if anyone else does it please tag me!!#🤗#I just think it's Neat.)#anonymous #tv #commentary #answer #p;spark

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Not to long form Loki meta in 2021 (sorry to my followers, but most of y’all know me personally....) but. Season 2 wishlist!

Season 1 wasn’t perfect, but I generally had a grand time watching it. It felt a lot like RTD-era Doctor Who--has some flaws, but you can tell everyone had a good time making it, and I had a good time watching it, and I’m glad there’s going to be more.

So some things I’d love to see in season 2:

1. More exploration of Loki’s bisexuality. I’m really glad that Kate Herron made a point to get this confirmed, but more please! Whether that means a boyfriend or just references to past boyfriends is, I think, dependent on how many episodes the season gets. Without throwing a rock into the hornets nest of the selfcest discourse (seriously, don’t bring it here, make your own post) the Loki/Sylvie romance did feel a little rushed, so if they’re going to commit to that, I’d rather they stick with it then messing with a love triangle or something. If the backstabbing at the end of time has killed that dead, then yes. Boyfriend. Either way, have Loki reminisce about past lovers (was the reason Sif and the Warriors Three were all kinda done with Loki outside of him being Thor’s Kid Brother they have to hang out with because he’d dated most of them at one point? Hmm?)

2. On that note, more genderfluidity. They definitely dropped the ball on that. I’m cis so HOW that should be done is not really my lane. I liked the scene in Original Sin where Thor remarks that “These are fair maidens” and Loki responds “So am I, sometimes” so something like that would be good? But again, I do not want to talk over genderfluid folks on this topic. Just you know, do better, MCU.

3. A follow up on the idea from episode 5 where Loki remarks that “We’re more powerful that we realize” when watching Classic Loki’s massive illusion of Asgard. The idea that magic--or at least, magic as learned on Asgard--is in part confidence could be really interesting. MCU Loki is weaker in magic than Comics Loki, and while the show did do a lot to try to close that gap, they do have to make it work with “Well if he can do this why didn’t he do it during Thor/Avengers/Infinity War/etc.” Loki’s a character with a lot of self-loathing he compensates for with a vastly overinflated opinion of himself, and neither of those things are true confidence. His most impressive magic display (moving the falling building) seemed to happen when he wasn’t really thinking too hard about it, so the seeds of having Loki’s magic get stronger as becomes more grounded are already there. Classic Loki was depressed, but he did also have a lot more actual confidence than any Loki we’d seen up to that point.

4. Thor and Loki growing up, and also Thor and Loki reunion. Some scenes like in Good Omens, with Crowley and Aziraphale through history. It’s made blatantly clear that Loki misses Thor desperately, so it would be kinda weird if they never saw each other again. I just want them to hug, guys!

5. A longer episode run! Six is, well it’s FINE, but I think eight to ten would be ideal. I know Marvel Studios has a lot of stuff to fund, but it’s not like this show is a risk on the financial side.

6. More Ravonna Renslayer! COVID apparently really messed with some stuff they wanted to explore with her, but we’ve got another go around on this. More Ravonna!

#loki series #loki series spoilers #loki #seriously don't discourse at me I don't wanna deal with it #long post

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WHAT IF Episode Predictions

The picture above shows 25 confirmed MCU cast members who will be reprising their roles for the Disney Plus animated series depicting various what if scenarios throughout the cinematic history.

“What If: Peggy Carter was given the super Soldier Serum?” has already been confirmed. Based on the list given we can assume that Captain America: The First Avenger alums will be Dominic Cooper as Howard Stark, Stanley Tucci as Dr Erskine, and Neal McDonough as Dum Dum Doogan. There is a comic with this storyline but based on the cast unless Red Skull is the big bad maybe Toby Jones goes full MODOK?

“What If: Killmonger’s uprising was a success and he remained King of Wakanda?” Kinda feels like a glorified YouTube’s How It Should Have Ended... but mainly I believe it’s definitely more like fan service or plain fan fiction as Hayley Atwell’s Peggy Carter and Michael B Jordan’s Erik Killmonger definitely have strong followings. But here there is a story to tell. Wakanda could succeed in a world take over and would Chadwick Boseman’s T’Challa see his side or continue to become a freedom fighter?

“What If: Captain America was never found?” Agents of SHIELD already did a phenomenal “What If: Hydra Succeeded in Captain America: The Winter Soldier” storyline where they were Agents of Hydra and a secret resistance. But if Cap was never un-iced does that mean there’s still no one willing to fight for the price of freedom? Enter Sam Jackson as Nick Fury and Jeremy Renner as Agent Barton, Hawkeye. After Avengers (2012) Barton simply disappeared until Avengers: Age of Ultron. I say that should there have not been a Steve Rogers that Fury would have went to Barton who he obviously trusted enough to allow him a sanctuary home off the records, to help him stop this internal takeover. Sebastian Stan would return as the Winter Soldier and I think Toby Jones returns here as computer Arnim Zola.

“What If: Kurt was Ant-Man instead of Scott Lang?” Hear me out because I find this one kinda interesting. David Dastmalchian’s Kurt is not only a professional heist man himself but he’s also a brainiac like Scott where it was him who hacked and disabled the laser grid. Michael Douglas returning as Hank Pym originally chose Paul Rudd’s Scott Lang because he was brilliant and a crook so skilled yet expendable. But he wasn’t expendable after all! He has a kid that he loves and wants to turn away from crime in order to be with. So he could effectively be the middleman between Hank and Kurt in place for Janet Van Dyne to help whip him into hero shape.

“What If: The Guardians of Galaxy were never a thing?” When a was set into motion originally Karen Gillan’s Nebula not Gamora was assigned to get the orb from Xandar. It could be assumed that Nebula wouldn’t have hesitated to kill Peter Quill in doing so. But this would obviously bring her a whole lot of problems from Michael Rooker’s Yondu Udonta and his Ravagers like Sean Gunn’s Kraglin and... Chris Sullivan’s Taserface? Maybe Nebula might turn on Thanos so then Djimon Hounsou’s Korvath turns on Ronan and then Taserface turns on Yondu forming Queen Nebula and the Boys.

“What If: Jane Foster found Mjolnir before finding Thor?” Again it is HUGE that Natalie Portman is returning to the MCU and of course it’s because the prospect of the damsel but brilliant Jane Foster becoming her own hero. I believe that gets exploited and she becomes Thor earlier in the timeline here wherein her research she finds Mjolnir before Thor and even finds it before SHIELD. Consider that young arrogant Chris Hemsworth as Thor might not have taken too kindly to this blasphemy of his precious Hammer and might even evoke the help of his God of Mischief brother Tom Hiddleston as Loki to help get it back. This actually is less in the vain of a Shakespearean love triangle as much as an odd couple of brothers trying to best an OP chick that one of them or both end up falling for. It could be what Portman’s forgettable Your Highness was trying to be.

“What If: Planet Hulk Remastered” This one excites me the most! Mark Ruffalo may very well never get a solo Hulk film but what about a featured episode? I say simply reboot the old Planet Hulk (2010) animated film but with Ruffalo, Taika Waititi returning as Korg, and Jeff Goldblum returning as himself The Grandmaster. They don’t need no stinkin’ Asgardians for a revolution just enough pamphlets!

“What If: Thanos was truly inevitable?” Josh Brolin to return again as the Mad Titan would need to be for a just reason. He retains the Gauntlet and resets the universe to his own making only to find that any universe he makes might continue to resist him. Maybe greater powers might come to judge him for his playing god. Either way this will be an opportunity for Brolin to really expand this character either to his philosophy or to his madness which I am sure Brolin would love to do.

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Desires #8

Pairing: Loki x reader

Summary: Vanaheim needs allies and since you are the eldest daughter of its king, you are a victim of arranged marriage with one of Odin’s sons - Loki.

Chapter warnings: language, fluff, slight smut

Chapter word count: 2000

“Shh! Shh!” Loki’s hand covered your mouth, muting every sound you made. “You have to be quiet,” he laughed, listening to the steps outside of the cupboard you were in.

You were leaning against the wall, your legs wrapped around Loki’s waist, his length buried deep inside of you.

This wasn’t the first time you had sex in weird places. After your first time the tension between you two was unbearable. You still didn’t know whether you were pregnant or not and you wanted to use your time together the best you could before you would get fat and swollen.

You looked down at his smile. You acted like horny teenagers and he was all there for it. He was giggling and his cheeks were red, he was watching the door and waiting if anyone would open it. You pulled him to kiss and he gladly gave it back, moving again and causing you to moan.

The door burst open and you screamed out of shock, clinging harder onto Loki.

“Caught you!” Thor laughed and leaned on the doorframe, wiggling his eyebrow.

“Would you mind closing the door, brother?” Loki hissed and you hid your red face in the crook of his neck. Thank gods you didn’t waste time undressing, just slipped and rolled the unnecessary garments otherwise this would get ten times more awkward.

“Ah, yes, sure.” Thor winked and to your terror squeezed into the cupboard and shut the door.

“What the fuck are you doing?!” You squeaked, trying not to touch him in your vulnerable state.

“I need to talk to you.”

“You could’ve waited outside!”

Loki stepped from one foot to another, changing his angle inside of you and making you squirm.

“Can you please not move?” You sighed and squeezed your thighs onto him harder.

He smirked and faced his brother.

“Get out.”

“You remember the ball is today, right?”

You widened your eyes and peaked at Loki. He forgot about it as well.

Your parents were going to be there. You were going to see them for the first time since your wedding, the whole ball was the celebration of the end of your honeymoon.

“We remember, get out now!” You hit him with your magic and he stormed through the door.

You sighed heavily and looked at your husband.

“You could’ve done that earlier.” He kissed your neck, but you moved away slightly.

“The moment’s over, we should be getting ready.” You kissed him softly and he reluctantly slipped out of you and put you back on the floor.

You fixed your dress and got out of the cupboard as gracefully as you could.

You watched yourself in the mirror, feeling weird in the leather, flared dress. It was black and green, of course. Loki’s colours were yours now and you had to get used to it. Your hair were slicked back and waved at the ends and you felt so idiotic. You didn’t look like Loki’s wife, you looked like his sister. Heavy golden earrings and bracelets were made to match the crown that was lying on the vanity next to you, but you couldn’t force yourself to wear it. Everything was going to be so… official after tonight. The honeymoon was fun and games, but now you were going to have duties, everyone would call you princess and you would have to wear a crown.

Loki entered the room and stopped when he saw you. You could see him in the mirror, eyeing you from head to toe.

“You look beautiful.”

“I look like you.”

“I just said it.”

You laughed and turned to him, bending your fingers. He slowly walked to you, raised his hand and softly caressed your cheek before pressing his lips onto yours. When you parted he reached for the crown. It was similar to Loki’s, made of gold with a small triangle on the forehead and horns, but much shorter than your husband’s. You didn’t really like it, but didn’t protest when he gently placed it on your head.

“That’s my wife,” he sighed, admiring you.

“This is really weird that you enjoy seeing me like that,” you laughed silently. “Maybe I should start wearing your clothes? I feel like that would turn you on more than I ever could.” He frowned and you laughed louder. “Or you could just shapeshift me into you, and you could finally have sex with yourself!”

“That’s it!” He grabbed your waist and lifted you up, your back met the cold surface of the mirror when he slammed you onto the vanity. He tried to fake anger, but you could see he was smiling. “Such a naughty girl…”

His lips fell on your neck and you squirmed when he sucked on it, leaving a hickey and then licking the spot.

“We have to go,” you murmured when he began to roll your dress up.

“How am I supposed to leave now, when you’re not wearing any underwear? It will be the only thing I’ll be able to think about.” He was kissing you up your jaw and nibbled your ear.

“Well, you’ll have to try, because we have to go now. And no,” you interrupted him before he could say anything “we don’t have any time for this.”

He sighed and helped you slip down the vanity.

“Let’s go, my beautiful wife.”

When you reached the ballroom you held his hand tight. He smiled at you calmingly and stepped through the door.

“Price Loki of Asgard and his wife, princess Y/N of Vanaheim!”

You felt nauseous. You hated such ceremonies and being in the spotlight was definitely not your thing. Your parents weren’t making it easier as well. They were sitting on the thrones prepared for them and watching you judgementally. You wanted to throw up, run away and hid under the sheets, but you couldn’t. You held Loki’s hand even tighter.

“Are you alright, love?” He asked, frowning at you. “You look pale.”

You could only nod. You regretted eating dinner. And breakfast. And every possible meal before. Your head was spinning and you were sure you would throw up any second. You covered your mouth with your hand.

“I’m going to be sick,” you cried silently.

“What?”

All you could do was to storm out of the ballroom despite the shock gasps and throw up to the nearest plant pot. Your husband quickly approached you and grabbed your hair.

“Love…?” He wasn’t sure what to do with you, throwing your insides out to the pot.

You heard clacking of heels.

“Mother, I think she’s ill.”

And on the top of it Frigga. She was the last person you wanted to see now, you didn’t need to listen about how badly you behaved. But instead of talking she kneeled on the floor next to you and placed her soothingly cold hand on your forehead. She frowned and moved it on your stomach.

“She’s not ill,” Frigga stated. “She’s pregnant.”

Oh fucking hell.

Just the thought of that made you throw up again.

It’s been a few weeks and you really hoped you weren’t pregnant. You even started to think that maybe you couldn’t have children with a Frost Giant, but now that Frigga confirmed your state… You swayed and fell on your butt before Loki managed to catch you.

“Are you sure?” You asked silently, your throat burning.

She nodded and surprisingly gently fixed your hair. You could swear she had tears in her eyes when she looked at Loki.

“I am so happy for you.” She covered her mouth and shook her head. “That’s wonderful news. Odin will be so proud of you, son.” Her eyes shot from your belly to Loki.

“Hold on,” you panted. “You can’t tell anyone.”

She raised her eyebrows.

“And why is that?”

You looked at Loki and he helped you get up.

“I- We haven’t decided if we want it yet.” You clung onto Loki who slowly nodded.

Frigga’s smile faded.

“How can you not want it?”

“We’re still young and-“

“You’re both over a thousand years old!” She shouted angrily. “You’re going to be young for much, much longer. Don’t give up on that chance, daughter.” You blushed when she called you like that. She barely ever said your name, let alone call you her daughter. “You can still live your life after you bear a child. Believe me, I know something about that.” She caressed Loki’s cheek. “This is probably the most important decision of your life, son, but-“

“That’s not his decision to make,” you said, your voice much steadier than before. Loki froze next to you and Frigga raised her brows with shock. You moved away and fixed your crown. “It’s only my decision.” You used your magic to clean yourself and the pot you vomited in. “And I’m done talking about it. Don’t tell anyone.”

You grabbed Loki’s hand and dragged him back to the ballroom. Everyone seemed to be uninterested in what happened, you supposed that Frigga told them something when she followed you. You sat at the long table with thrones prepared for you and poured yourself some wine.

“What are you doing?” Loki asked you coldly, swapping the wine with water. You rolled your eyes and sipped it in silence. Your head was still spinning.

You were pregnant. Officially. Did you want the baby? Were you ready to raise it and love it? You weren’t even sure if you loved your husband, let alone give birth to his child… Gods, you were sweating. A thousand years without sex and you got pregnant the first time you finally had it. Lucky you.

You felt like crying.

You looked over at Loki. He was leaning on the handrail opposite from you and wasn’t looking at you. Was he mad at you? Because you didn’t know the contraception spell? Was this your fault, after all? You were so stupid. How were you supposed to be a mother if you weren’t able to properly take care of yourself?

Unwittingly you laid your hand on your stomach. You would get big as hell. And heavy. Your feet would be swollen and you would carve things. Would your body get back to normal after giving birth or not? You had healing abilities, of course, but did they work like that, too?

You didn’t want it.

“Not my decision to make?!” He was shouting at you for at least half an hour and you were crying and not looking at him as he was walking around the room and breaking things. “That’s my fucking child as well! We made it together, don’t you remember? Or should I remind you?”

“But you’re not the one who will be pregnant and give birth,” you stuttered, bending your fingers.

“You will not push me away!”

You just stared at him for a moment before you got up from the bed you were sitting on and came over to him. He was furious, his hair was a mess and he had sadness in his eyes.

“I'm sorry.” You wrapped your arms around his waist and put your chin on his chest. “I never meant to. It's just... a lot to digest.”

He grabbed your face in his hands.

“I know, but we're in this together. You are not alone and I don't want to feel alone either, do you understand me? I don't ever want to be alone again.”

“I'm sorry...” You murmured and reached to kiss him. “Will you forgive me?” He nodded and kissed your forehead. “You just have to understand that this is much more serious situation for me. It's mother's duty to raise a child and-“

"You have to realize one thing, Y/N,” he said. ”You are not on Vanahaim anymore. I am not planning to leave it all to you. We will raise this child together. We are both responsible for it.”

You sighed and cuddled him.

“Thank you. For everything.”

You were not that scared anymore.

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In the canon of infidelity drama, Harold Pinter’s Betrayal may hold the distinction of being the least … adulterated. A lean story of a seven-year affair between a woman and her husband’s best friend, it isn’t weighed down by details of dreary marriages intended to make the lovers more sympathetic. Nor does it detour into too-typical revenge fantasy: After the woman confesses to her husband, both the affair and the marriage carry on — as does the two men’s friendship. If you enjoy your tales of extramarital liaisons with, say, a side of boiled rabbit, Betrayal may not be for you.

But as a focused exploration of human duplicity, Betrayal is an unembellished marvel and this Broadway revival gives the 1978 play a smart, stripped down treatment. The cast, imported from last spring’s London production, includes Tom Hiddleston (Loki in the Marvel films and forthcoming Disney+ series), and Charlie Cox (the title role in Netflix’s Daredevil). Along with British actress Zawe Ashton (Velvet Buzzsaw), Hiddleston and Cox come with long theater resumes; they are both terrific sprung from their comic book trappings.

Director Jamie Lloyd, a frequent Pinter interpreter, responds to the spare text with a staging to match: The set is framed in bare, graphite-colored walls, furnished with only an occasional chair and folding table. There are no costume changes, unless you count the retucking of a shirt. (The scenic and costume design is by Soutra Gilmour.) Virtually the only props are the bottles and glasses that keep our three principals in the drink. The lighting (by Jon Clark) is stark, throwing shadows of the three characters up on those empty walls and echoing their doubled lives.

In a script based on an affair Pinter carried on during his first marriage, his only narrative indulgence is to tell the story in reverse: The play opens two years following the end of the affair with a chaste if flirtatious reunion between art gallerist Emma (Ashton) and literary agent Jerry (Cox) on the day after Emma and her husband Robert (Hiddleston), a publisher of some of Jerry’s authors, have decided to separate. Over the course of a tense 90 minutes, Betrayal winds back to the moment nine years earlier when everything we’ve just witnessed now seems inevitable. From the start, we know what the characters do not: How this will end. In exchange for that insight (which hardly qualifies as a spoiler: What love triangle ever turned out happily?) we are treated to pleasurable shocks of irony and melancholy.

A production this minimalist depends on its performances. Hiddleston’s turn has the restraint and winning edge of a poker sharp. Robert often knows more than either his friend or wife suspects, giving him a power and calm unusual in a cuckolded husband; Hiddleston wields that advantage with a chilling smile. However, in the moment when his suspicions about his wife are confirmed, there is real emotion, teary eyes and all. We’ve already learned Robert can be cruel, so this display, coming when it does, is affecting.

Cox, too, is well fit to his part: The also-married Jerry is affable, appealing — exactly the good-natured sort of fellow you would not expect to have set up a daytime-use flat with his oldest friend’s wife. As the woman between them, Ashton begins tightly coiled upon herself, twitchy and punctuating Emma and Jerry’s post-affair catch-up with nervous smiles. Thankfully, as we return to earlier days, Ashton drops some of that mannered approach to show us the woman, both cool and practical, who navigated a divided life until it no longer suited her.

Though the action consists mainly of two-person scenes (two lovers, two spouses, two best friends), Lloyd keeps all three actors on stage. Seen by the audience but not by the speaking characters, the odd-person-out wordlessly reminds us that he or she is never out-of-mind for the others. It’s a simple yet stirring device. In fact, the formula is so effective, it is jarring when Lloyd messes with it: Why bring out a child actor to illustrate the daughter to whom the characters only refer? Some comic business with a (scripted) Italian waiter also unnecessarily ripples the show’s otherwise sleek tone.

The dialogue, particularly between the two men, suggests the thrilling volley of a tennis match. But Robert, as we are frequently reminded, is a squash enthusiast. Whereas in tennis each player stays on his own side of the court, in squash the competitors share a confined, four-walled game space — collisions are inevitable. And, as with great infidelity dramas, that too is part of the spectacle. B+

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#Tom Hiddleston #Zawe Ashton #Charlie Cox #Entertainment Weekly review article #EW #jamie lloyd production #harold pinter play #Betrayal Broadway #bernard b jacobs theater #Theatre tom #tom as robert #zawe as emma #charlie as jerry #tom hiddleston stage performance #Broadway debut #new york city

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A CAVALCADE OF RANDOM THEORIES FROM SOMEONE WHO JUST ENTERED THE “AVA’S DEMON” FANDOM

in no particular order. some are a little dark. tw: suicide mention, sexual assault/abuse mention spoilers below.

-Gil’s demon is Nevy, who represents Envy. He is confirmed gay and seems to have a small thing for Odin, if his blush at the snacks Odin gave him is anything to go by. He will eventually fall for Odin, who will eventually fall for Ava, and thusly, Gil will end up making a pact with Nevy to “save Odin from Ava” (AKA get rid of Ava so Odin can fall in love with him instead). He won’t quite understand his driving motivation is romantic love, and instead believes that he simply “deeply cares” for Odin.

-Nevy will either lie and manipulate Gil into killing off both Ava and Pedri in revenge for them having broken her heart in their complicated love triangle, or she will be completely for Gil killing Ava so she can have Pedri instead.

-it’s no coincidence that Gil’s color scheme is the exact same as TITAN’S. just as TITAN serves as an antagonist to Ava and Odin, Gil, in his lovesick jealousy, along with Nevy’s baggage, will be an antagonist as well. There might even be a chance that Nevy and Gil will partner up with TITAN in order to go up against Ava and Odin. After all, if Gil can’t have Odin, and Nevy can’t have Pedri, then no one can.

-Gil being gay and being unable to see Maggie in a romantic light will lead to Maggie’s pact failing and her and Tuls fusing together into a terrible monster.

-Tuls is lying to Maggie when he is explaining the magic of his flowers to her. They aren’t “love potions” that induce romantic feelings. He’s the demon of lust, not love. His flowers are just potent aphrodisiacs that could MAYBE guarantee a night of passion between Maggie and the flower’s recipient, but are unable to guarantee a healthy and lasting relationship in the long run. Maggie is doomed to have her heart broken, no matter what goes on between her and Gil, or her and whoever her flowers are for. And once she doesn’t even have the hope of falling in love, and Tul’s magic is gone, it’s up to her to save them both from becoming a fusion monster by finding Ranunculae and letting Tuls speak to her. Though, if the above ever happens, Maggie MAY just intentionally fail the pact out of spite, so she AND Tuls are doomed forever with no one to love.

-Maggie’s pact is doomed to fail no matter what happens in the story. She chases love but doesn’t understand what it really is and will therefore not have a happy ending, no matter how hard she tries.

-Alternatively, Maggie’s pact might be to find someone who loves her. She might fail with Gil, but since Ava is still with her and trying to help her because she too, in some way, loves Maggie, Maggie might already be protected from failing the pact because there is one person around who legitimately loves Maggie, even if it might not be in the way she had hoped for.

-Whatever happened between Maggie and Ava in the past led to Maggie having some very dark thoughts. In Maggie’s dream world, we see that she has a necklace made of her own hair around her neck. At first i thought it was some sort of odd keepsake, but it’s actually a cut noose. Maggie once experienced a point in her life so grim and so low, she made a noose out of her own hair and tried to hang herself.

-Maggie’s past involves being the victim of sexual abuse/assault. Maggie is 15 years old, but would be what some might consider hypersexual with some of the things she says and does, i.e. making innuendos, making sexual advances, having a long string of romantic partners (at least six, according to Tuls), and getting very attached to people she doesn’t know due to her attraction to them. Though this could easily be chalked up to Maggie being 15 years old and in the throes of puberty and all the hormones it brings on, it should be noted that a common response to sexual trauma at a young age is becoming too focused on sex and relationships than is normal.

-Odin’s sisters represent the two ravens from Norse mythology who acted as the god Odin’s eyes and ears and messengers. Crow and Raven are both loyal to Olai. Olai knows something about the disappearance of Magpie. It will be revealed that Olai sold her to Titan, killed her, or otherwise did away with her. The other two triplets will be so heartbroken and enraged by this, they will defect and join Odin’s quest in finding their/avenging their lost sister.

-Olai, Odin’s brother, is based off of Loki from Norse mythology.

-Magpie’s real name is Magdalai. Magdalai sounds a lot like Magdelene, and the most popular Magdelene was Mary Magdelene of Bible lore. In Bible lore, Mary Magdelene was “cleansed of evil spirits” and became a follower of Jesus, following him and serving him until his resurrection. Magpie was very certain she was a Vessel and carried within her one of Wrathia’s warriors, and she was so sure of it, she even told Olai. However, that proved to be a very big mistake. Olai sold her away for - something, possibly more scavenger tech to work with - and Magpie eventually wound up with some of TITAN’S followers, who recognized her for what she was and forcibly removed the “demon” inside of her. Magpie is now a brainwashed follower of TITAN. If they found a way to control the demon inside of her, along with her, then she could be a powerful warrior for TITAN, possibly a dangerous antagonist that the four, especially Odin, will have to fight in the future.

-A very common theme with TITAN is mice, or rats. All the elite soldiers are given “ears” and a mask that makes them resemble mice/rats. TITAN even refers to Strategos Six as “my little mouse.” This might be in order to showcase that TITAN sees everyone beneath him as “lesser beings” or even “vermin,” and it might also align with the technology motif (Labs have rats that they use for experiments to further their knowledge), but it might also be a clue to who he’s based on. There are lots of gods, some goddesses and even characters in literature with mice/rat motifs, but I have yet to find someone that “fits” TITAN. (MAYBE Apollo? but i feel like that’s not quite right). I mean, TITAN is supposed to be the “Crystal Dragon Jesus” of this world, but that doesn’t mean ALL of him is based on Jesus, right? maybe looking more into this motif will clue us into his true nature more.

-Nevy’s whole character is partially based off of The Little Mermaid, from H.C. Andersen’s story. She, too, sacrificed all for love and paid a high price for it. One could say that The Little Mermaid was driven by envy for legs and the world above the ocean, and was punished for her foolish actions. There are a lot of similarities between the two characters. Nevy, like the Little Mermaid from the fairy tale, loses her voice and cannot speak for some time. She also, like the the Little Mermaid, is trapped in the afterlife after her great loss and cannot move on, just as The Little Mermaid becomes an air spirit in the original tale and cannot enter heaven/earn a soul until she does 300 years of good deeds. At one point, she even dissolves into sea foam, which was also part of the actual Little Mermaid’s final fate.

-Ava made a pact with Wrathia for a new life once she helps her defeat Titan. Over the course of the story, Ava will forge the life and experiences she wants with Odin, Maggie, Gil and everyone else around her she considers an ally. When they eventually do defeat Titan, Wrathia will uphold her end of the pact, and gleefully so, thus causing Ava one last bit of pain before Ava is gone forever. HOWEVER, Ava will then be reborn as Wrathia and Pedri’s offspring in their egg, and the multi-galactic kingdom that Wrathia sacrificed an innocent child’s entire life for will then belong to the reincarnation of that innocent child. poetic justice, and Ava has a whole new kingdom to keep her friends safe and happy in.

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