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finfanatic · 30 days

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Just finished the pinned post but just an fyi yes I call myself the h word!! Yes I am allowed!! I am intersex, have lived in my intersex body all my life, have been either fetishized or shamed as an intersex person as long as I've been interacting with people sexually... So yes, I be calling myself that word. You will see me use it. Apologies if it is offensive to you but I see it as just as good a word as intersex and that's all I've gotta say about it!

#intersex #queer discourse #intersex discourse #lgbtq community

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nomorerww · 1 year

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'eugenics' 🙄🙄🙄

Women's personal choices aren't eugenics. That's not how it works, regardless of how many males feel threatened by women's bodily autonomy. eugenics refers to say, gov't measures to stop minorities from exercising THEIR right to control over their bodies--- i.e. sterilizing women (usually) or men b/c they're deemed 'inferior' or problematic in some way.

if a woman doesn't want to have a fetus who will be an infertile adult and suffer psych distress that both parents and child will need good therapy for, that's their choice. if you're going to spend at least two decades living/raising/being responsible for a kid, you have a right to decide what you want to deal with or subject the kid to. CAIS/AIS are known to cause significant distress. and doctors still mess up care and/or rec unnecessary gonadal removals that cause a whooole host of issues in CAIS women (they don't menstruate however).

#intersex discourse

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girlinlavender · 3 months

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reminder that young, white, allosexual, alloromantic, cisgender queer people are not the only queer people and should not be the only queer representation ever. PLEASE, more black trans women, older people just discovering they’re asexual, genderqueer indigenous people, aromantic nonbinary teenagers, cute interracial lesbian couples, intersex people, etc, in media. The queer community is messy and beautiful and multifaceted and complex and colorful, and representing only the most “easily digestible” aspects of it does NOT make you a good ally or a good person. It makes you a fucking dick.

#queer #lesbian #bisexual #transgender #genderqueer #intersex #asexual #aromantic #pansexual #gay #nonbinary #queer discourse #queer representation

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intersexability · 4 months

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Here’s your friendly reminder that AFAB and AMAB are meaningless and obsolete terms!

#if you want me to elaborate on this I’d be happy to #intersex #actually intersex #afab #amab #lgbt discourse #lgbtqia #trans #transgender #trans intersex solidarity #transmasc #transfem

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cardentist · 2 months

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Fam how can one be trans in the direction of their assigned sex? I'm not even trying to make the idea sound ridiculous or anything. I'm genuinely curious and want to understand. I thought the whole meaning of trans was that you feel or act in the opposite direction of your assigned sex; if you're transfem but you're afab then to me that's just cisgender??? But like please explain to me how that's not the case if that's what you and others strongly feel so I may grow my compassion

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well ! while I personally am not intersex, I DO want to highlight intersex people first and foremost.

gender and sex are very Very complex, and I think generally people don't consider the way that being intersex can play a big role in that!

there are intersex people who are afab who are also trans women, there are intersex people who are amab who are trans men, there are intersex people with many Many different relationships with sex and gender and anywhere in between !

an afab person can be born with masculine sex characteristics and transition the way trans women often do. that person May identify as trans, they may not ! that trans person may not even consider themselves a woman depending on who they are and what they want !

I Do think there needs to be an effort to be aware of and make space for intersex people within the trans community, and really the wider queer community as a whole. as it's often something that's given a footnote without deeper thought into the ways that intersex people Actually interact with our communities.

which I don't blame people for not already knowing ! that's the whole point of trying to educate people in the first place ^^

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and as for Myself

labels are, ultimately, a form of gender presentation. what you call yourself is an extension of not only how you see yourself, but how Other People perceive you.

I could call myself nonbinary or I could call myself trans masc, and both would be Accurate. but people have certain traits and expectations and associations when they see those labels. there are assumptions made about the kind of life that I live, the things that I want, the things I might experience, that change depending on which labels that I use.

and that's not Inherently a bad thing ! I mean, that's part of why people Like labels. but it Can be a struggle for people whose gender is Funny.

I could Also describe myself as genderqueer or multi-gender or genderfluid or gnc or-. I've tried on lots and lots of labels, and for the most part I haven't thrown any of them out, I just keep them in a box under my bed and take them out when relevant.

I've been wrestling with the feminine aspect of my identity for a very Very long time. I've been aware that I'm some level of trans masc. that part was easy. I want a deeper voice, I want things about my body to change, I don't want people to look at me and see a cis woman.

but I Also like femininity. I've found that after accepting myself as trans masc and slowly growing an environment where I am Perceived as masculine, I've started getting euphoria at presenting femininely in the Same way that I did (and do!) get about presenting masculinely.

but that feeling doesn't carry over when I'm perceived as a cis woman. it's Quite Uncomfortable for obvious gender reasons.

and while I may not know the exact Words that I'd use to describe it (as I've said, I've been chewing on it for Many years now), I've gotten a clearer idea of how I Feel.

I want to be Visibly trans. I want to be perceived masculinely And femininely. I want to transition masculinely to present femininely (and sometimes butch, sometimes like your dad at the ace hardware store, I contain multitudes).

and of course, figuring out what I have going on has involve a lot of exploration ! it's the same way I figured out the whole trans masc thing in the first place. seeking out other trans people and other Things About trans people feeling things out.

I find ! that I have a lot of shared experiences with transfeminine people. both in how I feel about certain things, some of the presentation that I want, and in how people would React To said presentation.

my femininity Is Trans, I don't relate to cis womanhood. but I Do relate to trans femininity. which is really awkward for me, because it's difficult to describe it to other people fjksldljkasfdjklfasd

(I don't personally consider myself a trans woman mind, but I'm certain there Are people who are trans men and trans women at the same time. gender is complicated, sex is complicated. labels are malleable and sometimes situational)

Could I describe myself with a different label? probably ! I've got lots of them. but when I Don't put emphasis on this aspect of myself people assume that it's not there. insist that it Couldn't be there, and I don't know what I'm talking about. and those people who Would act nasty towards me probably aren't gonna change their mind just because I changed my bio. but it feels Nice to assert that aspect of myself when other people are trying to tear it down.

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part of me feels like I should post the intersex portion of this by itself, because people tend to engage more with shorter posts and there's nothing Short about my gender situation ljkfdasjkls

but ! I dunno, if this makes even one person understand the gray areas of gender and presentation a little more it'll be worth it.

thank you for taking the time to ask ! and especially for doing so kindly ! I do hope you'll see this

#discourse #long post #intersex #genderqueer #nonbinary #multigender #trans unity #queer unity #moral of the story is that gender is a fuck

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theforesteldritch · 3 months

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idk i feel like people who aren't intersex shouldn't have the loudest voices in saying how intersex people can identify. I'm sorry but lived experiences should be taken over what someone decided after looking at you when you were born, every time. And being intersex makes your lived experiences complicated as fuck. It's usually worst coming from perisex people, but even as another intersex person you Do Not Get to decide on how other intersex people identify with themselves based off of their lived experiences.

#saw some rancid discourse #im so tired #i really dont fucking know why people decided to take a cis perisex woman saying shes transfem and make it the fault of intersex people #just say you dont give a shit about us and go #intersex

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nonbinarymlm · 2 months

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The thing is, most people (in the US and Western countries at least, that’s where my experience is from) have some forms of privilege some forms of oppression. This isn’t saying everyone is equally oppressed and privileged, but most people have privilege in at least one way and oppression in at least one way.

And if you experience oppression in some ways and privilege, it’s much easier to see your oppression then you privilege.

Privilege is largely invisible to those who have it. Oppression grates against you all the time. So it’s much easier to see the forms of oppression you experience then the forms of privilege.

That’s why it’s so important for us all to listen to each other and not play Oppression Olympics. You can face very real oppression that really affects your life, and still learn a lot from other people who face other forms of oppression that you don’t. We have to listen to each other. In the queer community especially I think this is important, because there’s so many different ways to be oppressed and to be privileged.

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satyrradio · 17 days

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day 20283737 of waiting for y'all to realize that maybe we should be going after the ppl that want us dead instead of. yk. each other

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nekrotiize · 6 months

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For the record, since I post about intersex inclusion every now and then: I’m not intersex myself, I just find it deeply disturbing how readily people will ignore or erase their existence, and deny them a platform to speak in the queer community. I find it deeply disturbing that people will claim to be very much so down for non-standard bodies, and post positivity post after positivity post talking about the validity and beauty of non-standard bodies, but only ever be speaking of perisex, often binary trans bodies post/during-medical transition.

Intersex people practically don’t exist outside of specifically intersex circles. Discussions that are in plain words about them or inclusive of them specifically leave them out by only ever attributing gender/sex deviation in the body to the standard reaction to hormones, or the perisex binary trans body post-surgery. There’s never acknowledgment that this variation can happen prior to birth, only ever as an act of transition.

#sorry for the queer discourse on main I’m just thinking rn #intersex #queer #lgbt #nekro.txt

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hiiragi7 · 1 year

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@blaugrana-blues People say this about any intersex variation. Just how "different" do we need to be in order to be "intersex enough"? Do we need to all be true hermaphrodites to "count"? Do we all need to be infertile? Where is the line to you?

Are people with CAIS and persistent mullerian ducts who can still have children no longer intersex? Are people with C-CAH who do not present with ambiguous genitals at birth no longer intersex?

Why are you so hellbent on turning intersex people into some mysterious foreign group that you can't conceive any ""normal"" person being a part of?

Aside from many intersex people not showing obvious physical signs, aside from PCOS and NCAH and various other adrenal disorders having so much symptom overlap you cannot visibly tell the difference without testing, aside from PCOS itself being widely misused currently by the medical field and constantly inappropriately diagnosed upon the first meeting with a hyperandrogenic patient without even doing any testing at all when it's meant to be a diagnosis of exclusion, aside from PCOS not always meaning "just extra hair" - Why does it hurt you for people to identify as intersex?

Why is it so much of an insult to you to be lumped in with us that you felt the need to comment this on my post?

You also do not have to identify as intersex if you do not want to, but there is absolutely no need to drag down others who do just because you felt personally attacked by a post aimed at intersex people with PCOS.

I am also going to link you three studies/reviews about PCOS and just how much overlap it has with other intersex variations so you can see how pointless it is trying to make a distinct difference between the lived experiences of those with PCOS and "The Actual Intersex People" because I am tired and I hope you will read these if your question was actually in any sort of good faith.

Relative Prevalence of Different Androgen Excess Disorders in 950 Women Referred because of Clinical Hyperandrogenism

Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and NC-CAH: Distinct Characteristics and Common Findings. A Systematic Review

Differentiating Polycystic Ovary Syndrome from Adrenal Disorders

Regardless of the cause, if you are visibly not within the "socially acceptable" sex binary, you're going to get treated like shit. There is absolutely no reason to want such drastic seperation between PCOS and the rest of the intersex community, we need to work together against oppression and discrimination, not apart.

#intersexism #discourse #pcos discourse #intersex #pcos #can intersexists just fuck off my posts for once #terfs and radfems can fuck off too im tired of them being all over my intersex posts #polycystic ovarian syndrome

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sillyzter · 5 months

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LEAVE INTERSEX PEOPLE ALONE.

we can and WILL identify as ANY identity.

Kiki is SO tired of be shamed for identify as aphroflux/transfem/transfemmasc.

WE ARE ALLOWED TO RECLAIM THOSE IDENTITIES...

And for fuck sake PERISEX PEOPLE STOP USING SHI/HIR PRONOUNS.

#actually intersex #intersex positivity #intersex pride #intersex #afab transfem #amab transmasc #axab #queer #queer discourse #queer community #queer liberation #intersex community

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voredere · 3 months

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you guys are so fucking ignorant about intersex people that it's insane. you have this view of intersex women fitting neatly into some stereotype of "regular afab with pcos" and you clearly have no fucking clue how AGAB is determined. i do understand the frustration with terms being misappropriated, this happens all the time for mixed poc as well, but when you turn the whole thing into a witch hunt based entirely off of deeply intersexist assumptions on how being intersex can work, you show that you're just as disgusted with us as cis perisex people are. we are nothing but a gotcha to you.

anyway when i defend "afab tma" and "afab transfems" im defending intersex women who had their sex reassigned at birth against their will and still materially live as trans women, i'm defending intersex women whose circumstances you do not understand that materially live as trans women, and im defending intersex women who do not have an assigned sex at birth and chose one based on factors you don't know or understand that materially live as trans women, and i'm defending intersex women who have self identified as "afab" based on their personal perceptions of their body rather than their legally assigned sex that still materially live as trans women.

"if your experience can be neatly described as cafab--" is just so revealing as to how little any of you know about how AGAB is actually assigned for intersex infants. there is no one standard. it comes down to the whims of your parents or doctor and no two people have the exact same experience. there are thousands of ways to be intersex.

you need to stop making assumptions about someone else's body and history and lived experiences based on what YOU imagine "cafab" is supposed to mean, or what it meant for the token intersex person in your friend group. it's not about "oooh we get mistaken for trannies sometimes" it's about materially living the same fucking experiences and circumstances as a trans women, being denied the option of being cis, being materially treated as trans without exception for our entire lives, and pointing out that women with this experience exist. to claim otherwise is as simple as saying you believe intersex women are inherently liars.

#intersex #perisexism #idiotic discourse #defining tme/tma based on agab is defeating the purpose #anyway i'm blocking this rhetoric on sight #if you erase intersex women you don't deserve to be around me

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intersexability · 4 months

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I genuinely think we need to stop using the terms AFAB and AMAB, at the very least as commonly as they are currently used. There are times when those terms are helpful, but most of the time, they really aren’t and just perpetuate unnecessary division, a false binary, and intersexism

#intersex #actually intersex #afab #amab #trans #transgender #nonbinary #lgbtq #lgbtqia #lgbt discourse

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jadwiga-abremovic · 7 months

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"WhY ShOuLd InTerseX PeOple Be In The Acronym"

Well, for one thing, "preventing lesbianism" is still a reason why doctors do clitorectomies on newborns.

#actually intersex #intersex #lgbtia #lgbt #pride discourse #hermaphrodite #dogs are gonna bark

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cardentist · 2 months

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well ! I figured that was gonna happen, so lets not waste a good essay.

I feel like it's not controversial to say that there is a Lot of underlying transphobia in how people with "weird" gender and labels are treated. but in particular I'd like to highlight how multigender/genderfluid/genderqueer people/etc are expected to "pick a side" based on their agab (or perceived agab).

and this absolutely extends to nonbinary and intersex people as well. people viewing nonbinary people by their agab regardless of their identities, presentation, or real lived experiences (or punishing nonbinary people for not fitting what they Assume those things would be based on them Being nonbinary).

as well as the way that intersex people are erased and refused to be understood. it is, for instance, treated as ridiculous or even outright Dangerous to think an amab person could be trans masc or an afab person could be trans fem. ignoring, of course, that there are intersex people who Aren't treated like their agab. who are visibly read as trans and transition in ways that suit their agab.

and of course, intersex people have all sorts of relationships with gender and sexuality that influence their experiences.

but there's Also just this baseline kneejerk rejection of seeing multigender people as anything different from half trans. or rather, people don't like it when people relate to and share experiences with what they perceive as the "wrong" trans labels.

I've talked about this before, but I've been shuffling around labels for a very Very long time. both trying to find something to fit the way I feel, And in trying to figure out my feelings at all.

I've Always identified with both masculinity and femininity in some way, but for a very long time I've never enjoyed being Perceived As a girl. was I genderfluid, was I nonbinary, was I trans masc and gnc, what was I indeed. why was I comfortable, even Happy presenting femininely in some cases, but I feel antsy when my hair gets anywhere longer than "basically bald."

gender euphoria at the idea of going on T and wearing clothes that hide and change the shape language of my body, but Equally receiving gender euphoria at dressing and being perceived as Feminine without being perceived as a cis woman.

and in much the same way, when I Do present masculinely I enjoy not reading as a Cis man. that visible transness. that duality of masculine and feminine.

in the end I've found that my euphoria with femininity hinges on exactly that. I Want to transition, I want a deeper voice, I want my face and body to change. but I Also want to keep some of those traits that are read as feminine. some of the shape language of my body, my boobs, my presentation.

no matter how I choose to label this feeling, this desired presentation and desired interpretation, what this means for me is that I have shared experiences and desires with many other groups of trans people. trans people Can look and want to present as anything mind. but it is, for instance, not hard to imagine how someone in a dress with visible breasts and a masculine voice and facial hair would be interpreted and possibly treated.

and I think binary people really don't Like the idea of sharing experiences with the "wrong" sorts of people. they don't Like sharing experiences with nonbinary people, with multi gender or gender fluid people, with intersex people.

and I think I think there Needs to be some awareness of this. that trans spaces are always going to be fuzzy at the edges. that there will be men who are Also women and women who are Also men, and that not being a threat to anyone who's one or the other.

and I think there Also needs to be an awareness that this intolerance to people with Weird genders and presentations and labels. Is Transphobia, regardless of who it's coming from.

not to inherently demonize anyone struggling with feelings of discomfort, but to ask people to Examine that feeling. especially before they choose to interact with people who are different from them.

everyone has prejudices, everyone has insecurity, everyone has biases and difficult emotions that they're trying to work through. and there's nothing wrong with that, but there needs to be an awareness and recognition of it. to make the active effort not to react to someone you don't understand with a negative kneejerk.

sometimes things that sound unintuitive make perfect sense to the person it's relevant to, sometimes things that sound intuitive are wrong. you don't Have to understand somebody to leave them be to do their own thing. and if you feel that someone's existence is harmful, sometimes it's a good idea to check that emotion.

#discourse #long post #trans unity #queer unity #intersex #multigender #genderqueer #nonbinary

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intersexcat-tboy · 4 days

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On today's episode of trans intersexism:

Perisex trans ppl claiming sexual harassment is deserved if the other person is "disrespectful" (pointing out facts and science)

Love how their comment also completely ignores the existence of those who have dysphoria rooted in not having both

#trans intersexism #intersexism #intercommunity discourse #queer infighting #exorsexism

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