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godsofhumanity · 2 years
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Ferdiad: That's a crazy idea, Cú Chulainn. Ferdiad: Absolutely insane. Ferdiad: It doesn't make any sense. None at all. Cú Chulainn: Cú Chulainn: So, you'll do it? Ferdiad: Of course!
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Fergus: Yesterday, I overheard Láeg saying “Are you sure this is a good idea?” and Cú Chulainn replying “Trust me,” and I have never moved from one room to another so quickly in my life
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15pantheons · 11 months
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Bres: When I first met you, I did not like you.  Lugh: I'm aware of that.  Bres: But then you and I had some time together.  Lugh: Uh-huh?  Bres: It did not get better. 
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dullahandyke · 2 years
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>see person with irish mythology url
>'oh sweet i'll check them out'
>pinned post is collage au fic of the ulster cycle
>'We Are Fundamentally Different People'
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colleenbrooke · 1 year
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Some incorrect fianna quotes made with the Perchance Incorrect Quotes Generator:
Caoilte: Oisín learned how to fold origami penguins from Diarmuid the other day. I told him, “I feel a little bad for the penguins, it’s hot here”, and the next day he put them in the fridge.
Fionn: Goll is not allowed to decide which one of us is the chosen one.
Fionn: I told Conán that his ears turn red when he lie.
Diarmuid: Does he though?
Fionn: No.
Diarmuid: Then why did you tell him that?
Fionn: Because I can do this.
Fionn: Hey Conán! Do you love us?
Conán, with his hands over his ears: No.
Caoilte: I won a new phone in a race.
Oisín: Huh? What kind of race lets you win a phone, Caoilte?
Caoilte: A race between the store owner, the cop, and me.
Fionn: You saved me! Why?
Goll: People would think I murdered you if I didn't.
Caoilte: I love you.
Fionn: How many people have you said that to?
Caoilte: Everyone.
Fionn: What?
Caoilte: I told everyone that I love you.
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atlantic-riona · 1 year
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hi, welcome to medieval Irish literature, where everybody dies
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4rimoire · 4 months
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THE MORRIGAN
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note that most of this will be based off of my own experience as someone who works with her, but i will also include traditional information as well!
DOMAINS AND ATTRIBUTES
the morrigan is a goddess of war / battle, sovereingty, death, and fate
some see the morrigan as a trinity of three sisters, others see her as a single goddess with three aspects. neither way is incorrect as the mythology is unclear based on what ive read. personally i view her as a single goddess with three aspects as opposed to three sisters under a single name
the morrigan is a shapeshifter, taking many forms in her mythology. a common form taken by her is that of a crow or a raven, other forms include that of an eel, wolf, and heifer. this is not a complete list, i would advise reading the mythology of the morrigan to learn more about her if you intend to worship or work with her. it details her other forms as well as general mythology surrounding her
ASSOCIATIONS
some of these will be my personal associations, while others are traditional and mythology based. personal associations will be marked with (P) and mythology based associations will be marked with (M)
crows / ravens (M)
heifers (M)
wolves (M)
eels (M)
samhain (M)
black obsidian (P)
black tourmaline (P)
onyx (P)
carnelian (P)
bloodstone (P)
hematite (P)
cloves (P)
cinnamon (P)
red pepper (P)
black pepper (P)
the color red (P)
the color black (P)
the color silver (P)
OFFERINGS
imagery of her associated animals (i like to offer crow / raven themed jewelry, this way i can wear it with me as a devotional act)
crow / raven feathers
crystals or scents you associate her with
food and drink you think she would like (have never offered food or drink to her, but i read that red wine and mead are accepted as drinks, and red meat and traditional irish foods are accepted as foods)
knives or blades
DEVOTIONAL ACTS
doing shadow work
celebrating samhain
working out
standing up for yourself / others
reading her mythology
making a devotional playlist of songs for her
wearing colors you associate with her in her name
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moiraimyths · 2 years
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Your game looks beautiful, but as an Irish person who's seen their country's myths and language misused and exploited by non-Irish several times before, I wanted to ask: are there any Irish people on your team? Or do you have Irish cultural consultants or something? I can't find anything about this on your website and it makes me a bit wary. Thanks!
Thank you for the question! We understand the hesitance, and if the absence of Irish team members dissuades you from supporting our game, we totally understand. We do have an Irish language consultant and cross-compare our translations/pronunciations on Teanglann, since none of the core team is fluent in Gaeilge, but regardless we tend to approach our use of the language with our limitations in mind. Most of the phrases we use are very basic, for that reason.
As lovers of history, mythology, and philosophy, we are very aware of the exploitation you reference, and for that reason we aim to represent these myths thoughtfully, with historical and colonial contexts being kept in mind. We would even go so far to say that the exploitation and erasure of Irish Celtic history and religion is a recurring theme in our game. Of course, we're not perfect, so we are open to someone letting us know if any of our information is egregiously incorrect! Our lore and world-building is largely inspired by Lebor Gabála Érenn, with other tales from the other cycles (as well as miscellaneous folklore) scattered throughout. We intend to do the spirit of the myths justice and as accurately as possible, bearing in mind multiple interpretations/variations on certain myths, and the fact that some tales are irrevocably changed due to colonial meddling, i.e. the Christianization of the pantheon. You can also learn more about each of the Fates and our approach to storytelling from our Press Kit!
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Fiana / フィアナ and the Freeblades
Fiana (JP: フィアナ; rōmaji: fiana) is a Thracian village where Leif found refuge sometime after the fall of Leonster in Fire Emblem: Thracia 776. The village is named after the fianna, Irish and Scottish bands of warrior-hunter-mercenaries. This is clearly reflected in-game by the Fiana Freeblades (JP: フィアナ義勇軍; rōmaji: fiana giyūgun, lit. Fianna Militia, rather than the Japanese フィアナ騎士団; rōmaji: fiana kishidan, lit. Fianna Order). Some believe that serving in a fian was a rite of passage for young men.
Of course, we can't talk about fianna and not mention THE Fianna, namesake of the Fenian Cycle, one of the four main sections of Irish mythology. The Fianna was an order meant to serve the High King led by Cumhall mac Trénmhoir, but he was killed after his elopement with Muirne and the conception of their son Deimne. Cumhall's killer, Goll mac Morna, would then be chief of the Fianna until Cumhall's son returned and proved capable to lead as his father once did.
Some major characters of the Fenian Cycle serve as namesakes of some of the residents of Fiana and other members of Leif's army. The most obvious connection is that of Leif's loyal vassal and father figure Finn (JP: フィン; rōmaji: fin). Cumhall's son Deimne studied under the poet Finnegas, who searched for the Salmon of Knowledge. Upon the fish's capture, Deimne was to cook it. In the process, however, the boy burnt his thumb and instinctually put it to his mouth, granting him the salmon's wisdom. His Thumb of Knowledge would reveal anything when put in his mouth. Deimne also received a change of name at that time, becoming the iconic Fionn mac Cumhaill (or Finn MacCool).
As for why Fire Emblem's Finn is a knight of Leonster, there are two reasons for this. On his father's side, Fionn was descended from the tribe of Uí Thairsig from Leinster (which is the name of Leonster in Japanese). Additionally, Finn's name could tie to Fin MacKinealy, an alternative name of Cian, the namesake of Quan.
And since it's relevant, yes: the substitute character Deimne is named after Finn's birthname. In Japanese, his name is written ディムナ (rōmaji: dimuna), while the more standard form for Deimne is デムナ (rōmaji: demuna). Either way, the pronunciation is incorrect; the m seems to be silent in most English pronunciations, while in Irish it's pronounced like the letter v [dʲɪvʲ(ə)nʲə], similar to Macha.
Moving on to a native of Fiana, Osian is the Welsh name for Oisín, the son of Fionn and Sadhbh. Fionn found his lover in the form of a deer while hunting, and she returned to human form when she was spared. The two settled, but the druid Fer Doirich that cursed her into a deer returned to shift her form again soon after getting pregnant. Seven years later, Finn would find a young Oisín on Benbulbin, a common hunting ground for the Fianna. Oisín would grow to be the greatest poet in Ireland, with most of the Fenian Cycle's tales being written by him. The most famous tale starring him is Oisín in Tir na nÓg, in which he took Niamh, daughter of Manannán, as a wife in the land of Tir na nÓg. After three years as king, he returned to Ireland to reunite with the Fianna, only to find that three hundred years had passed outside of Tir na nÓg. As soon as he dismounted the horse Enbarr, the hundreds of years caught up to him. Post-Christianized stories say that both he and Caílte mac Rónáin were the only survivors of the Fianna after the Battle of Gabhra, and would live long enough to meet St. Patrick and relay the legends of the Fianna to him.
In Japanese, Osian's name is オーシン (rōmaji: о̄shin), officially romanized as Othin. While Othin is another name for the Norse god Odin, the katakana resembles the common form of rendering Oisín in Japanese, アシーン (rōmaji: ashīn).
The other axebro of Fiana, Halvan (JP: ハルヴァン; rōmaji: haruvan) is a bit less clear-cut. The name seems to be a corruption of バルベン (rōmaji: baruben), from the aforementioned Benbulbin where Oisín was found. Notably, the name Benbulbin is an anglicization of Binn Ghulbain, which is believed to be named after king Conall Gulban of Tyrconnell. He was a companion of Caílte mac Rónáin much like Oisín, telling St. Patrick of the Fianna and the etymology of various toponyms of Ireland. Gulban was also supposedly the first noble to be baptized in Ireland.
You've likely deduced this already, but Ronan (JP: ロナン; rōmaji: ronan) is named after Caílte mac Rónáin (JP: キールタ・マック・ロナン; (rōmaji: kīruta makku ronan). Another member of the Fianna and nephew of Fionn, Caílte was known for being a brilliant storyteller, being attributed for some of the tellings in the Fenian Cycle. He also was known to speak with animals and for running incredibly swiftly. That's right - Ronan's high speed and movement are rooted in the mythological figure he's named after! No real basis for his magic growth, however.
Lastly, Nanna's brother Diarmuid gets his name from the second most famous member of the Fianna, Diarmuid Ua Duibhne, a demigod raised by the god of love Aengus. He eloped with Fionn's fiancee Gráinne, creating great tension among the Fianna until Diarmuid's death. In his youth, Diarmuid received a "love spot" beneath his eye that made women who looked at it head over heels for him. This aspect was likely the basis of his personal Charm skill.
Diarmuid's Japanese name, デルムッド (rōmaji: derumuddo) comes from the standard rendering of Diarmuid, ディルムッド (rōmaji: dirumuddo).
Interestingly, the leader of the Fiana Freeblades, Eyvel (JP: エーヴェル; rōmaji: ēveru), seemingly does not relate to the Fenian Cycle at all. The closest I could find was the possibility of an intended reference to Ailbe, the wife Fionn took after he found Gráinne to love another man. However, there is a multitude of other possibilities to consider, which can be found in a future post!
Is there a character with a Fenian namesake that I missed? Or a connection between character and inspiration I glossed over? Please, let me know in whatever means you prefer!
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any new projects ahead? (btw feel free to tag this as ask so i can look at it later!)
Well, as always I’ve got some fun YouTube videos planned for the future (a voice roulette, another incorrect quotes dub, probably more owl house comic dubs, a video essay about why bad media can make better fandoms), and Jonaya and I are gonna be starting a recurring stream series where we read the entirety of the progeny trilogy for our first anniversary, since the fic is a big reason why we got together in the first place :))
If you’re wondering about things Bigger than my YouTube channel, as you might know I’ve been working on a musical about domestic violence and Irish mythology. Idk if I’ll be posting any more songs from it any time soon, but my collaborator and I are hoping to put on a live cabaret featuring songs from the show some time in the near future, so if you’re in the nyc area, keep your eyes peeled for that :))
And of course, I’m always working on stuff with Studio June! I’m sure you know about Friendsim 2, but we’re gonna keep making games once that’s over, so definitely keep your eyes open for that in the further future!!
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incorrect-tuatha · 3 years
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godsofhumanity · 3 years
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Cú Chulainn: Don’t kill me, I have a wife.
Fand: You think I care about that?
Cú Chulainn: No, this isn’t a plea for mercy. It’s a warning.
Fand: Wha-
Emer: [kicking down the door] ARE YOU READY TO DIE?!
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"Good morning. As you begin your day, remember that violence is always an option and often the answer."
— Conall, probably
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15pantheons · 2 years
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Scáthach, to Cú Chulainn: Look at you! All cute and small! I could just eat you up!  Cú Chulainn: *proceeds to kick her in the shin and run away*  Ferdiad, walking past: Rule number 1, don't call Cú Chulainn cute or small.
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greekschist · 3 years
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Demeter: Hestia, do you smell that? It smells like Irish Spring.
Demeter: And betrayal.
Hestia:
Demeter: Hades took my fucking daughter.
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godsourvia · 3 years
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Danae
(Gustav Klimt 1907)
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According to the myth, Danae was the daughter of King Acrisius of Argos. The King receives a prophecy from the Oracle, which foretells that he will be killed by Danae’s child. In an attempt to defy fate, he locks up his daughter in a cellar. However, the ever crafty Jupiter turns himself into golden rain and enters her room. The fruit of their union is Perseus, who years later, fulfills the prophecy and kills his grandfather.
In his painting, Gustav Klimt blends Symbolism with Art Nouveau aesthetics. In Danae, the figure of the young woman and the golden rain dominate the canvas. The purple cloth represents her royal origins and the Art Nouveau circular designs represent her female nature. The artist candidly explores female sexuality. However, the heavy ornamental style decreases the sexual tension of the piece.
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