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cemeterything · 6 months

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just got this email from the library confirming my reservation of house of leaves is finally available and i can't get over their decision to attribute it to the fictional made up author from the book instead of the actual guy who wrote it

#🐉#im guessing this is because the book credits zampanò and truant as the authors #to increase the immersion so their system picked that up. but its still funny.

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sophieinwonderland · 3 months

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what are your opinions on Maladaptive Daydreaming being considered a dissociative condition as of 2022??

(the link is to the source for context: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349477165_Maladaptive_daydreaming_is_a_dissociative_disorder_Supporting_evidence_and_theory)

This is a great paper!

Just for clarity, Maladaptive Daydreaming isn't an official disorder. It does not appear in the DSM nor the ICD at the moment, and so it's not yet an official diagnosis dissociative disorder.

I doubt you meant for it to be interpreted that way, but I wanted to clarify for any readers who might come away thinking MaDD is an official dissociative disorder when these are arguments for why it should be classified as such.

Having said that, like I said, I do very much like this paper, and hope that MaDD can be added to the DSM and ICD in their next editions!

I especially find their continuum of control particularly fascinating, as it acknowledges these different characters as having increasing level of agency.

I'd love to see the authors' take on tulpamancy!

I really think this is incredibly important, as it establishes a form of plurality that is both disordered and can be endogenic, while including internal agents with their own agency and ability to act outside of the host's control.

#syscourse #madd #maladaptive daydreaming #maladapting daydreaming disorder #immersive daydreaming #plural #plurality #endogenic #multiplicity #systems #system #plural system #pro endo #pro endogenic #system stuff #sysblr #psychiatry #psychology #science

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plural-culture-is · 2 months

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immersive daydreamer plural culture is enjoying the story you have going on and suddenly you introject the character you were playing

(this has happened eight times now)

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#plural culture #actuallyplural #plurality #plural system #immersive daydreamer plural culture #anonymous

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artbyblastweave · 2 months

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Crying shame that Gene Wilder passed before they could adapt the sequel where they go to a space station and just fight a bunch of xenomorphs

#charlie and the great glass elevator #Wonka-themed immersive sim in the vein of system shock when #shitpost #thoughts

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captainhoers · 1 year

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so shadows of doubt is really good here’s something that happened to me yesterday

#it just came out in early access like a week ago so it's a bit buggy still #but it's an extremely compelling indie immersive sim #heck indie immersive sim feels like a contradiction in terms #but here we are with a game that feels exactly like deus ex but you're a detective and the murders are generated by the system dynamically #also probably already my favourite procedural generation game #also the procedural generation means you can share your stories without fear of spoilers

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devileaterjaek · 10 months

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#gaming #system shock 2 #system shock #immersive sim #fps #first person shooters #horror #sci fi horror #cyberpunk #shodan

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1stprototype · 11 months

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I appreciate how Nightdive made the final boss fight area resemble the super radical Japanese box art for the original.

#system shock #video games #FPS #immersive sim

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madd-many · 21 days

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parative culture is seeing those “ what would u do if ur paras suddenly showed up here “ posts n thinking .. thats real i did that .. i showed up here n now i do the chores :/

#user: hollow🐺👑#maladaptive daydreaming #immersive daydreaming #paragenic #parative #dreamway system

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granulesofsand · 19 hours

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We used to daydream maladaptively. It was distressing because we were afraid to talk about it, and dysfunctional because we would spend hours pacing or staring at the wall or redoing some repetitive useless task.

I think we used to be stuck in it so often because we couldn’t safely exist anywhere else. Our external lives, whether regular or extreme, were nigh unlivable. Our internal lives were often loops of trauma, reenactments and terror. We dissociated from both.

For some of us, we changed our internal lives as a result. Many of our genuinely safe innerworld locations came about because we revisited a daydream so often. We have a few bubbles off layers that were never part of our innerworld, but were parallel to it.

We still daydream in the innerworld. It takes a lot of mental energy to do vividly, so we mostly only get to when we have chores to do. Laundry is prime daydreaming time. Azure is the best at outerworld overlays, but they only do it when we’re meant to be sleeping or have to sit quietly.

We daydream together, bicker over the flow of a scene, have alters who embody paras, pilot different characters. It’s more common to daydream vaguely, alone, but it’s often collaborative if it’s done in the fronting realm.

I miss daydreaming. We have a section of the archive of perfected scenes in each series, where you can view other alters’ work as writing or video. The layers with the parajects are lifelike, for better or worse.

We don’t have much time to do it anymore, and we stopped because we had to for our continued survival. System policy dictates that “you can’t daydream if you’re dead” — we can’t prove it, but it helps keep the “angel of death” thoughts away (where some of us were taught that the only way out of the pain was to die).

It’s one of those almost cultural things that I’m not certain I consider disordered. It doesn’t currently inhibit our functioning, and I’m not distressed now that I know it’s a valid experience. We’re getting good at taking ourselves seriously, which means I can work through the shame that came with feeling alone — we rarely spoke about the daydreams, so we only had to overcome our own fears. I guess I’m just not one to consider any experience “crazy”.

I’d have to find someone who remembers the more maladaptive days, because I can tell I’m idealizing the habit. We still are not bad or broken for finding solace where we could. Just like our CDS, immersive daydreaming kept us alive and as well as we could have been.

#internal reenactments #immersive daydreaming #maladaptive daydreaming #osddid #did osdd #traumagenic system #adaptive system #cdd system #cds system #pluralgang #plurality

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comicbookluv3r · 8 months

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Dreaming?

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sophieinwonderland · 10 months

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what do you think the connection between maladaptive daydreaming and tulpulmacy is? theres a known cross over between dissociative system and maladaptive dreaming because of the way inner world building and physically seeing alters is easier while daydreaming. would any of these traits also help with tulpulmacy? i ask because, i read the guide to creating a tulpa and everything says "take your time" but for me its very weird because i dont really NEED to take my time? its like...i'm just kinda able to procure it in my minds eye?

Oh! There's definitely a connection!

On Wonderlanding alone, yeah, you've been training those skills your whole life. Wonderlanding is really just multi-player daydreaming.

I also think some Maladaptive Daydreamers might be making tulpas or proto-tulpas automatically without realizing it, which helps in the creation of intentional tulpas.

It's pretty common to have paragenic systems born of daydreaming. Interact with the same instance of an imagined construct over a long period of time and it will likely become sentient.

So many describe their paras behaving in ways that are outside of their control and reflective of personhood.

One reason I think it's difficult recognizing plurality in maladaptive and immersive daydreamers, as well as other sorts of imaginary friends, is what I call the M-bot Paradox.

M-Bot is an AI in the Skyward Flight books. He's intelligent, being able to think and feel, but dismisses all of his emotions as being fake as he's just simulating human emotions. He's programmed to dismiss his feelings as not real.

I think a lot of paras and imaginary friends operate under the same principles. They're made believing they aren't real. They develop their own memories and personalities. But if the host asks if they're real, they're likely to reply that they're just imaginary.

At least, that's how I was.

I actually needed an external push before I really started thinking about my existence objectively and realized my feelings were real. Because before that, I KNEW I was imaginary. I was programmed to believe that.

So there are probably a lot of plurals with these sorts of accidental tulpas who just don't realize that they're plural because their headmates don't realize they're real.

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sparethedreamer · 8 days

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A fairly common experience among immersive and maladaptive daydreamers (and presumably among neuronarrators, though we can't claim much knowledge on Neuronarration as a distinct phenomenon. Assuming there are differences between them.) is the deep-pitted longing for your created world(s). For your life(ves) there. For them to be real and tangible and material.

Sometimes this life in reality seems so ill-suited to us.

I miss home. I miss feeling like I truly belong in the world as myself. I miss the feel of it all. I miss the sensation of being in tune with a world.

Though there certainly are hardships and perils in the paracosm, they seem to be more worth the efforts of enduring and conquering. If only because I'd be struggling against them while in a world where, and with the beings with which, my soul actually belongs.

I know all the counterpoints, arguments, and concerns against this wish, yet I cannot keep my heart from yearning for it. Please spare me any lectures you may have.

-seemingly a blend of Kaisa, Aoryn, a dragon, and perhaps others.

#immersive daydreaming #maladaptive daydreaming #paracosm #longing #belonging #i miss the wind #and the smells #and the feelings #of a place I've created #and only been in daydreams #plurality #otherkin #dragon #paragenic #plural system

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fm-synthesizer · 1 year

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