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sereniv · 2 years

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so i was going to make a post about how people need to learn what a comparison actually is, but when i looked up the definition and dug more into what exactly a comparison is, i realise that i actually needed to learn

because what i realise is that most people get it wrong, on both sides

A lot of people, myself included, conflate comparison into meaning "between these two(or more) things, one is worse/better"

Either through accusation or defending. Meaning one party accuses someone of saying A is worse than B through comparison, and the other defending saying that its not a comparison but finding similarities.

Both are actually technically right. Because the definition of comparison is to find similarities and/or differences only. It is not about figuring out which is worse or better

Which this is probably obvious for some ppl but ive seen it in the vegan community in defending and in the anti vegan or non vegan community for accusations

It all depends on intent and how something is said

theres a big difference between saying "There are similarities between A and B" and "A and B are the samr" or "A is just as bad as B"

Especially when it comes to social issues of oppression.

Because all oppression is comparable, but that doesnt mean its all the same or one is worse.

Even when there is a comparison that shows which oppression is more prevalent, its not about it being "worse", which is so vague. Its about understanding history, understanding society and how it works, and many other things

Basically, when someone compares animal agriculture to slavery or the holocaust by saying "its no different" "its the same" "AnAg is worse" etc, that is a hard comparison and is wrong, and those hard or even casual (finding similarities) comparisons should be kept for those who have history with the holocaust and slavery.

But it is NOT the same to draw comparisons, as in highlighting similarities, between oppressions, even if that applies to animals

I understand the kneejerk reaction due to the history of marginalized people being equated or compared to animals.

But you HAVE to use your comprehension skills.

There are vegans, actual vegans who go by the Vegan Society definition, who make hard comparisons and they are wrong and bad.

But when someone is talking about the harmful mindset of viewing someone who is a sentient being as lesser, and how in history and even in fictional stories how that leads to oppression like...its just not the same

No oppression is comparable in every way. Because each oppression is different.

trans oppression is different within the trans community depending on race or gender or looks or weight or abledness or even attractiveness. but there is still a common mindset which connects the trans community. And trans oppression is different from gay oppression but theres still a similar oppressive mindset that makes up the whole Queer community

and you can draw those comparisons, find those similar mindsets in all oppression

and you cant draw a line because someone is different from you, be them human or non human

and that is all these comparisons are. they ARE comparisons, id like to call them soft comparisons to differentiate them from hard comparisons like mentioned before

but there is nothing wrong with having a conversation about the oppressive mindset that affects everyone who is human and non human animals.

Learn to take a breath before replying, and figure out which kind of comparison youre dealing with. and when in doubt? just ask.

#im so sick of this shit #ive seen literally someone take something that was incredibly clear in their words #and just totally purposely misunderstood #its like saying 'i like apples ' and them saying 'so you hate oranges?'#that is a hard comparison i just made. i am saying both are equally comparable #because it really is. vegans have to be so fucking clear just to make sure no one warps what we say and misunderstands #and then somehow do it anyway #but its the same type of mindset that conservatives have. another hard comparison. bc its literally the same shit #the same arguments the same typing the same act #not all ofc a lot ofnthis comes from anti vegans not non vegans but still #just ask questions man. just be curious. and ask yourself why youre so angry about this topic #and whatever you come up with ask us. its that easy

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honeytonedhottie · 2 months

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how to feel enough⋆.ೃ࿔*:･🍦

STOP COMPARING URSELF TO OTHERS ;

comparison is the thief of joy. why should you compare yourself to other people? thats like comparing an apple to an orange, or a lily to a rose. everyone is uniquely different and no one person is the same.

to have a fair comparison, both things that ur comparing must be the same and since no one person is the same as another, comparing urself to others is illogical and incorrect. its unfair.

CHECK ON HOW YOU'VE GROWN ;

check on how you've blossomed and grown as a person by keeping track of achievements, big or small, or milestones to remind yourself that YOUR LITERALLY AMAZING. when you are consistent and persistent, when u look back and see how far that you've come its like a major confidence boost.

doing this regularly reminds yourself that you are not inadequate and that you are competent and capable of amazing things. dont be afraid to remind urself of who you are.

FEELINGS ARE NOT FACTS ;

just because you might feel like ur not enough sometimes, doesn't mean that its true. remind urself of ur core facts through affirmations, journalling, whatever u like. remember that

you are who you say you are

you are more than enough

and you are an incredible human being

identify the lies that you've believed about urself/the lies that people told u about urself. once you've identified these lies, work on changing them to truth. (im not enough -> im more than enough)

and remember that your talented, beautiful, kind, hot, WHATEVER U WANNA BE. the choice is yours, mwah ✨

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superectojazzmage · 11 months

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Watched the Nimona movie last night. Review I guess. It was pretty damn good. Definitely would’ve probably been regarded as Blue Sky’s magnum opus if they’d gotten to release it instead of being fucked over by Disney. Very cute, very funny, very powerful in the right moments. A thing that stuck out to me is that it’s really only an adaptation in the loosest sense of the word. It takes the core premise and beats of the comic but is functionally an entirely different kind of story that does its own thing. And given that ND Stevenson was heavily involved in production, I suspect that was intentional.

The comic was much darker and more downbeat in a lot of ways, plus it was significantly longer and thus could afford to be slower paced. But more than that, it was a lot more meaty in terms of themes and scope. The whole “LGBT allegory” element was there, but it wasn’t the sole focus, the comic was a story about a lot of different things; not just an LGBT experience, but also discussion of fantasy genre tropes and clichés, criticism of other fantasy deconstructions, character study, exploring what it means to be a hero or villain, critique of the glorification of crime and cruelty in underprivileged communities, corruption in governments, peer pressure, the senseless and self-perpetuating nature of violence, the worthlessness of revenge, etc.. And above all that, it was a story about trauma and people’s responses to it, with Ballister representing people who actually deal with their problems and move on while Nimona represented people who let their mistakes and suffering and grief consume their identity, or worse, use it as an excuse to indulge their worst qualities and take out their feelings on everyone around them.

The movie, by contrast, has a much more narrow focus. The LGBT allegory is front and center and basically the entire focal point of the movie, aside from a spattering of themes about the danger of zealotry and rigid fundamentalist thinking. This gives the movie a much tighter narrative and pacing that suits its inherently shorter runtime, but also leads to a ton of changes to the story either to convey a different kind of message or just work better in a different medium. Most obviously in how Nimona is vastly more sympathetic in the movie and essentially really is the silly gremlin the comic fakes you out into thinking she is, scrapping the comic’s twist that she was a genuinely bad person who was completely serious about wanting to be a villain, caring nothing for the lives she destroyed with her behavior and idolizing Ballister because she thought he was the same as her and would thus tell her what she wanted to hear (i.e., that she was justified in killing and destroying everything around her in the name of getting even). And in the changes to the Institution’s history and nature. And all sorts of other things.

All in all, I feel if you go in comparing and contrasting the movie and the comic, arguing which changes are for the better or worse, you’ll be setting yourself up for disappointment in either direction because they’re two different beasts and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. So keep that in mind if you’re a fan of the comic watching the movie or a fan of the movie wanting to look into the comic. I think ultimately I still like the comic better, but that’s purely my personal opinion and there’s plenty that I think the movie did better.

Some other observations:

Riz Ahmed my beloved, thank you Mr. Stevenson for this perfect casting. Literally perfect for Ballister.

Acting in general was very good. You can tell this was a passion project for a lot of people, not just Stevenson.

Only two changes that are objectively bad are Ambrosius losing his awesome Van Halen hairdo and changing Ballister’s last name — Blackheart is a way cooler name than Boldheart and it’s a pointless change, one that I’d argue even hurts the narrative since it makes it too obvious that Ballister isn’t actually a bad guy.

The animation is really great with fantastic expressions, stylish movement, and wonderful aesthetics that perfectly suit the story, but there’s times where it feels a little off. But there are parts where it looks less “movie” and more “cheap mid-2000s CGI-and-Flash cartoon show from France”.

The humor can be a hit and miss, in a “going through the motions of a Hollywood animated comedy for kids” way. The movie excels when it’s either imitating the comic’s Old Internet sense of humor or going hard on the drama, but there’s bits where it seemingly slams on the brakes to do Illumination-esque Twitter humor and those bits definitely throw off the vibe.

Having an actual straight up attempted suicide in the climax was shockingly ballsy. I genuinely can’t believe they went there, but I’m glad they did because the film wouldn’t have felt nearly as raw without it.

I don’t know how they managed to make the Director even more of an asshole than in the comics, but they did.

#nimona #nimona film #nd stevenson #ballister boldheart #ballister blackheart #ambrosius goldenloin #movie review #animated movies #movies #films #comic books #dc comics #webcomic #web comics #indie comics #netflix #blue sky studios #lgbt film #lgbt fantasy

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charlithepuppeteer · 1 month

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school bus graveyard incorrect quotes pt. 1

Ashlynn: What's two plus two?

Aiden: Math.

Ashlynn: ...I will accept that answer.

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Logan: I started school with straight A’s. Now I’m not even straight.

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Logan: *talking about Aiden’s funeral* You do know we’re burying a great person today!

Tyler, shocked: Did someone else die?

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Ashlynn: Nothing feels better than winning Monopoly. Not love, not sex, not free pizza, nothing!

Tyler: I’m sorry, have you tried pizza?

Ashlynn: Yes, and it doesn’t compare to owning half the board and watching the light die from your friend’s eyes as you take their money and feel your friendship slowly deteriorate.

Aiden: I like you.

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Logan: *working in a flower shop and minding their own business*

Tyler, storming into the store and slapping $20 on the counter: HOW DO I PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVELY SAY “FUCK YOU” IN FLOWER???

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Taylor: Why are you two always out during rainstorms?

Ben, typing: It’s so peaceful and refreshing. I love the smell of rain.

Aiden: Tyler bet me I couldn’t get struck by lighting, but they’re WRONG.

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Aiden: Am I going to far?

Taylor: No, no, no. You went too far about 7 hours ago. Now you’re going to prison.

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Aiden: Comparing Taylor and phantoms is like comparing apples and oranges.

Taylor: We’re both unique in our own ways?

Aiden: Apples are superior in every way and all oranges should be eliminated.

phantoms: Which one of us is the orange?

(I think we all know the answer to that)

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Aiden: The shadow realm? No, I’m sending you to Ohio!

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Aiden: FIGHT ME, YOU NERD ASS SLUT!

Ashlynn: At least try to sound slightly more sophisticated when you threaten someone.

Aiden: Oh, I'm sorry. I should ask; dost thou want to engage in a duel, my good bitch?

Ashlynn: Somehow that's worse.

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*While planning to break in somewhere*

Aiden: Hey, let's do "Get Help!"

Ashlynn: What?

Aiden: "Get Help."

Ashlynn: No.

Aiden: C'mon, you love it!

Ashlynn: I hate it.

Aiden: It's great! It works every time!

Ashlynn: It's humiliating.

Aiden: Do you have a better plan?

Ashlynn: No.

Aiden: We're doing it!

Ashlynn: We are not doing "Get Help!"

*A Minute Later*

Aiden, carrying Ashlynn: Get help! Please! They're dying! Help Them! *throws Ashlynn at guards, knocking them out*

Aiden: Ahh, classic!

Ashlynn: *gets up* I still hate it. It's humiliating.

Aiden, laughing: Not for me, it's not.

(aww~. couple banter)

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Aiden: I hate when people ask me, 'What did you do today?' Buddy listen, I woke up at noon and then it was five p.m., okay? I don't KNOW!

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Aiden: School sucks.

Ashlynn: I know, but you have to do it so you can get a job.

Aiden: What are jobs like?

Ashlynn: They suck.

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Aiden: If a demon possessed me, I’d just be like, “Okay, take it from here, good luck man.”

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Aiden: *slams books down in front of Aiden*

Aiden: Boil up some Mountain Dew. It’s gonna be a long night.

Ashlynn: You could of said literally anything else.

Aiden: Cauldron boil and cauldron bubble, Baja Blast to fuel my trouble.

Ashlynn: I’m going to just stop challenging you when you say random shit. I won’t win. I realize this now.

#school bus graveyard #Ashlynn banner #Aiden Clark #Ben Clark #Taylor Hernandez #Tyler Hernandez #Logan Fields #Aiden and Ashlyn in love #they are blind

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zvtara-was-never-canon · 1 month

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So, sokkastyles makes this post about people who criticize Zuko for “I’ll save you from the pirates” act like he didn’t changed and if his redemption arc was non-existent or something. Which is somewhat valid, some people act like Zuko didn’t change and he did grow as person for the most part.

I pointed out “Most people don't pretend Zuko never changed. 'Cause he did. It's just annoying when people romanticize Zuko tying Katara to a tree and stuff when it isn't romantic. It's like romanizing Aang kissing Katara in EIP, it isn't romantic, he kissed her without consent”.

Then sokkastyles said this:

no, it is not like that. A cartoon villain tying the hero to a tree is not like kissing someone without their consent. People romanticizing it is fine, actually. What's not fine is for you to compare what in canon is a nonsexual act to Aang violating Katara's consent, and then tell zutara shippers they are

"annoying" for doing something you don't like that's totally harmless. Go away. You are annoying.

Then after some brief discourse they blocked me and posted this https://www.tumblr.com/sokkastyles/747582627682336768/tying-someone-to-a-tree-is-just-as-bad-as-kissing?source=share

Maybe, just maybe I’m overreacting, but grabbing someone by the hand and tying them up is pretty serious offense that could happen, and is just as bad if not worse than kissing someone briefly without consent. But that’s just me, what do you think?

It really is comparing apples to oranges - but not in the way that idiot assumes.

The Ember Island kiss was "non-consensual" in the sense of "Aang didn't verbally ask to kiss her first" (which is common and normal to some degree no matter how much zutarians lie that "Well, EVERYONE asks first", especially considering they had consensually kissed twice before) but not in the sense of "Katara very explicitly rejected his advances and Aang FORCED himself on her."

She asked for time to think, he jumped the gun, she got mad, he realized it was a bad move and felt awful.

Meanwhile, the zutara tree scene is literally Zuko holding Katara hostage, taunting and threatening her. It's not sexual, but it is hostile - and zutara as a ship only exists because of people MAKING that scene sexual and writting fics of Zuko full on raping Katara. THAT is the base of the zutara ship, no matter how much they deny it. The pirate scene, in zutara fanon, has always been "What if Zuko raped Katara and that made her like him?" That has been the consistent fanon zutara spin on that scene.

Now, zutara fans would tell you "But it's fine to do something like that as long as you know it'd be abhorrent in real life. Fictional characters are not people that are truly able to consent to literally anything, good or bad, that happens to them in a story" - and let me be clear here, they're right. Katara and Zuko are not real. The victim, the criminal and the crime itself aren't real. Claiming "liking zutara is supporting rape" because of those fics would be like saying liking Avatar is the same as supporting the use of child soldiers in a war, or that the writers commited real child abuse against a fictional 13-year-old when they created Zuko's backstory.

But, of course, they can't just end it at the reasonable part. Them enjoying non-con subtext/fanon for their ship is fine because it's not real - but one poorly timed kiss means Aang is the devil and that anyone that likes Kataang is a raging misogynist and RAPE apologist, even though zutarians are the ones constantly going for rape for THEIR ship.

You see why no one takes these people seriously?

#anti zutara #pro kataang #pro aang

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jeannereames · 2 months

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Do you think Alexander and Hephaistion are similar to Achilles and Patroclus? I know that the comparison was later exaggerated and that we can't be sure of the Hephaistion-Patroclus comparison, but Alexander sometimes compared himself to Achilles so perhaps he once compared Hephaistion to Patroclus. My point is that I think that if the comparison was exaggerated it was for the reason that they look alike, I have even seen several people say that they are similar to each other or that Alexander and Hephaistion reminded them of Achilles and Patroclus, so I wanted to know your opinion on whether you think they look alike or not.

I'm not asking about the historical basis of this comparison, I'm asking about whether Alexander and Hephaistion are similar to Achilles and Patroclus, thank you so much :)

Are Alexander and Hephaistion similar to Achilles and Patroklos?

NO.

And for one very important reason. Achilles and Patroklos are fictional characters, Alexander and Hephaistion were real people.

As for whether they looked alike...we have no idea. Period. Full stop.

Yes, I know that will probably annoy, and possibly even alienate the asker, but it’s uber-important.

Achilles and (even more) Patroklos are 2-dimensional in Homer because he needed them as symbols. Patroklos has ONE primary purpose: to die. Plus a secondary purpose as the voice of compassion in contrast to hard-hearted Achilles.

Stop thinking of Madeline Miller, The Song of Achilles, and “Patrochilles.”

Reducing Alexander and Hephaistion to Achilles and Patroklos not only oversimplifies Alexander but completely erases Hephaistion and his very real capabilities as a commander and diplomat. He becomes just “the boyfriend.” I HATE THAT.

Other than the apparent devotion between Alexander and Hephaistion, comparisons end there. Remember, Patroklos had ONE job in the Iliad…to die. And to do so 1) forgetting he’s not Achilles (hubris), but 2) heroically, earning him glory (kleos). His death sets up Achilles’s descent into inhumanity, dragging the body of his worthy opponent Hektor behind his chariot. That is low, folks. Really, really low. He’s redeemed at the end as he and Priam share grief (a human emotion from the Greek point-of-view).

Hephaistion was not a character with a plot purpose. He was a real human being.

And he did not die in battle presenting himself as Alexander. He died of an infectious disease, possibly typhoid, and possibly aggravated by not following his physician-prescribed diet.

When Alexander visited Troy at the outset of his campaign, he made a lot of symbolic gestures that recalled Homer. Only one was to sacrifice at the tomb of Achilles, while maybe Hephaistion sacrificed at Patroklos’s. Both of which were not real graves because Achilles and Patroklos were not real people. Yet in the ancient world, even if/when the ancients questioned the gods as described in myth, they rarely/never questioned the heroes. For more on this, check out Paul Veyne’s Did the Greeks Believe in Their Myths?

But again, Alexander made numerous symbolic gestures when he landed at Troy. He was trying to frame his campaign in an epic tradition dating back to Homer. If he’s the New Achilles, he needed a New Patroklos. It was marketing.

We get NO other such comparison in our sources until Hephaistion died. Then Alexander aped Achilles’s mourning much like modern bereaved use the Bible or poetry to express the deep pain they’re feeling. Certainly, during their lives, they were NOT thinking that Hephaistion would predecease Alexander! It’s only after he did that these comparisons were made…and it’s more general than specific. Again, Hephaistion didn’t die in combat or while pretending to be Alexander.

So while I know the asker wanted me to compare them in themselves, that’s literally impossible. Like comparing apples to oranges. Fictional people to real people.

Alexander and Hephaistion were not big Patrochilles’ fans. I’m sorry to burst that romantic bubble, but I prefer to think of Hephaistion as more than just Alexander’s boyfriend and destined to die. He was one of Alexander’s leading commanders, and chiliarch at his death.

Let’s let him be that, okay?

(Sorry that all this probably reads snarky, but it’s something I feel rather strongly about. I hate seeing Hephaistion reduced to Alexander’s sidekick and romantic love-interest. He was much, much more.)

#asks #Patrochilles #Alexander the Great #Hephaistion #Hephaestion #Madeline Miller #The Song of Achilles #alexander x hephaestion #alexander x hephaistion #Classics #Homer #Achilles #Patroklos #Patroclus

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becausegoodheroesdeservekidneys · 1 year

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Have to say I feel kind of weird about that "gamer bros have conditioned themselves to not be attracted to real women" post because like. Did we forget that "changing what you're attracted to by jerking off to certain types of porn" was a real form of conversion therapy, tried mostly on gay men? I'm prepared to believe that fetishes operate on a different level to core sexual orientation or whatever, it's just, I dunno, the uncritical acceptance that you can recondition your sexual orientation through porn kind of skeeves me out, as a gay man :/

Well, I mean, fetishes *literally* operate on a different level to sexual orientation. That's a scientific fact, and it's precisely why conversion therapy doesn't work. There have been entire studies about this - my favourite was the one where they conditioned men to become sexually aroused by seeing a high heeled shoe in isolation without a woman even wearing them.

I heavily sympathise, don't get me wrong; I can absolutely see the pattern match that your brain is doing. But a sexuality is not a fetish. That's comparing apples to oranges.

With that said, watching that video... I can't even laugh at that guy, because he so nakedly and luridly needs help. I am not going to pathologise him, but I certainly got a Vibe from that video, and quite honestly the Vibe was "hyper repressed queer man who couldn't accept his own sexuality, and so imprinted on a story of Social Monstrousness like a duckling to allow himself to explore his sexuality in a 'safe' way (note how he breezes past sleeping with men because Ogtha's appendages mean "gender doesn't matter"!), and now is desperate to 'come out' about it to such an extent that he describes telling his entire workplace as the whole tale "all spilling out" and then still submits to social rejection a third time by telling his parents because he's desperate for acceptance."

And THAT skeeves me out as a queer woman, absolutely. That guy needs serious, serious help.

#asks #lgbtq issues

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chronicsyd · 1 year

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I’m gonna continue saying this till everyone hears me LOUD AND CLEAR:

The Reason yall praise Lumity while giving Catradora so much flack is because Lumity is “Rivals to Lovers” at Best. they never cross that territory that would put them into enemies. Not Once.

“Catradora is so toxic! Catra is so mean! Blah blah blah!” YES! they are ENEMIES that is apart of the “Enemies to Lovers” (Well specifically childhood friends to enemies to friends again to lovers but I digress) Enemies are toxic, they are messy- what? were you expecting them to magically hold hands and skip through fields like Adora was expecting in s5 ep6? Cause that’s not how this works.

I do think it would have been better if we had a bit of a longer run time with the show to showcase more of these two however yall have GOT to STOP comparing Literal apples to oranges in this case.

(I also want to give a bit of a think piece towards people saying that “Adora and Prime don’t have strong Antagonistic chemistry” and I think thats kinda the point cause Prime functions in a very similar way to Shadow Weaver in getting to Adora by using those around most namely Catra and that during the runtime of the show Adora and Hordak had ZERO antagonistic chemistry cause up till that point it was mostly “dumbass gay vs disaster gay” make of that what you will.)

#shera #SheRa and the Princesses of Power #catradora #toxic ship #enemies to lovers #rivals to lovers #sappic ship #yes im going to keep saying this #spop #catra #adora #amity #luz #lumity

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gwyns · 4 months

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Elain : canon that she doesn’t like violence

E/riel’s : aesthetic, fanart and headcanons of her dressed in Illyrian leathers, or wielding a sword, or covered in blood, or is secretly a spy for the Night Court.

I saw someone say that Elain would clean the blood off of Azriel after he comes home from a mission. Or that they want a scene in the next ACOTAR book of Azriel beating someone up, covered in blood, and Elain bites her lip and is like “that’s hot” ?? It’s canon that she doesn’t like violence. Didn’t she vomit after the battle in ACOWAR? And her being a spy doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t fit her character in canon. Wouldn’t we have got something of that in Az’s bonus chapter if she was training to be a spy or if she had spy like qualities?

If SJM holds a live stream interview where questions are allowed, I lowkey want someone to ask her if she’s ever thought about making Elain a spy or how she feels about blood and violence. Idk if SJM would say anything but *shrugs shoulders*

E/riel’s complain that Gwynriel’s put down Elain for being feminine, for her love of baking and gardening, but I’ve seen countless fanart of Elain as a warrior/spy and headcanons of Elain liking violence/blood. Not to say there aren’t some Gwynriel’s who’ve said that (I personally haven’t seen any) but it seems like E/riel’s are the ones reaching. Making their view of Elain different from canon.

why do they think elain would be ok around blood like that? even feyre, someone who has seen proper battle and killed people, doesn't like it. feyre doesn't like being around torture either but somehow elain would?? hey e/riels... BE REAL, please, for one second

and like??? elain would never, ever, in a million, BILLION years find az beating someone up "hot". not when she practically begged her sisters to leave graysen alone. hell, sjm has never really done that in general, clearly she doesn't like it either lmfao

oh god please i would love for sjm to shut down their little spy theories. anyone remember a couple of years ago how they were so confident that e/riel would be a sleeping beauty retelling but then in an interview sjm said she doesn't like that movie or even let her son watch it and suddenly they pivoted to something else?? i have never laughed so hard

ok let's look at this way: if elain has to change so much, literally a complete overhaul of her canon character, to fit with az... why wouldn't sjm just write a new, more well suited character? that'd be less of a headache... oh but wait! she did!! miss gwyneth berdara would like a word. for a fandom that claims to love and respect elain when others don't, they sure do try to turn her into someone else and then project that onto gwyn stans, claiming we're self inserting and wanting her to be elain when i have never, not once, seen a gwyn stan want gwyn to be any different

i have unfortunately seen some weird and toxic gwynriels but weird and toxic e/riels far out number them. oh and for the record, i've never seen or heard of gwynriels stealing art, doxing people, harassing sjm's irl friends and publisher, faking cancer, or telling sjm they'd harm her child if they didn't get their way so... really it's like comparing apples to oranges

anyway (most) e/riels suck and gwynriels, alongside eluciens, are literally the glue that holds this fandom together. i love you all even if this fandom is a cesspit most of the time, thank you for making this a fun space <3

#also before a dumb bitch hops into my inbox yes i know sleeping beauty was a fairytale first #and that the written story varies heavily from the disney movie but my point stands #sjm takes inspiration from both #asks #anonymous #antielriel #anti e/riel

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hello-nichya-here · 3 months

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Since you're the MJ expert, I have a question for you about a thing that's been confusing me. You said he was a shy guy that wasn't comfortable getting too explicitly sexual and didn't like how his brothers treated the women they slept with, but that he also flirted with fans and the In The Closet video is just him getting it on with a model. Was he really not okay with that kind of stuff or did he just say so because he didn't want another stain on his reputation?

I am far from an expert, but let's hope I can help you understand it better.

The part involving the fans is kind of comparing apples to oranges.

Michael didn't like being forced to hear/see his brothers having sex with fans in the same room he had to share with them, not just because he was a kid (raised by a VERY religious mother) but also because who the hell wants to be in that situation? It's awkward and kinda gross at best, and a severe violation of boundaries at worse.

And Michael's disaproval of how his brothers behaved wasn't just about the sex itself - it was about his brother's spying on women to see them undress without their consent, or ignoring a girl's discomfort when she wasn't fully okay with having sex next to a 7-year-old, or taking a fan's virginity and then IMMEDIATELY kicking her out of the room and telling her to never try looking for them again, or treating the girls so poorly Michael was scared they had been raped.

This is all very different from cheeky flirting and taking a fan's number - which was the level of flirting Michael was comfortable with, at least on camera. And considering all the women that were involved with Michael at some point, some of which were not exactly on good terms with him after it, not once ever described him being disrespectful or cruel like his brothers, and claim that he was indeed shy and VERY insecure but did still like to flirt, I'd say neither one nor the other was an act for the cameras.

Plus, there's the obvious factor of "A 40-year-old man that has actually flirted, dated, slept with women and has been married and divorced twice is not gonna behave the same way as a child/teenager that is constantly being forced into situations he has repeatedly said he is not comfortable with (be it dealing with relatives that are having sex with someone literally right next to him, or being locked in a room with two prostitutes because some weird adults having a problem with a 15-year-old boy being a virgin)"

But you are correct for assuming some of Michael's public behavior was based on him (and his managers) wanting to have more control over his image and wanting people to see him as something not fully accurate to the real MJ - you just picked the wrong part of his behavior to question, because the shyness was always genuine, but the sexual stuff sometimes wasn't.

Michael had been target of gay rumors for a LONG time - from the mid 70s till today. And while nowadays an artist being gay, or at least seen as such, would not be a big deal, back then it was a scandal - and Michael had been getting labeled as a bad influence by some conservatives because of his "ambiguous/feminine/androgynous look."

The Bad Era was him starting to embrace a more edgy, masculine, very clearly straight and sexually active persona - they even chose the girl for the "The Way You Make Me Feel" video based on the fact that Michael thought she was hot and she had a major crush on him. He was still supposed to be single, to avoid ruining the fans dream that one of them could totally be his wife someday, but he was now not just allowed to desmontrate interest in women, he had to prove said interest did in fact exist.

The Dangerous Era was supposed to be the follow up to that - and "In The Closet", which is about a secret affair, was originally meant to be a duet between him and Madonna of all people, but that ended up not happening because:

1 - She was FAR more comfortable with being VERY explicit in her lyrics and videos than he was.

2 - She wanted to toy with the "In The Closet" concept, by presenting as male while Michael would present as female - which was the exact opposite of what MJ wanted, since the ironic name of the song is a very clearly meant to subvert the public's expectation that at any second Michael would be coming out as not straight.

3 - Their personalities did not mesh at all, and Michael genuinely did not like Madonna.

When that plan was scrapped, they went for a different approach, that would be faking the "reveal" of a secret, scandalous affair between Michael and the girl that provided the vocals for the song, with "In The Closet" sort of being the "couple's" response to the media speculation - but that idea also ended up not being used.

So, they settled for Michael just picking a model he liked, and the two of them having fun on camera - and even though Michael enjoyed hanging out, working and flirting with Naomi, he also said, in a private conversation with a friend that he had no idea was being recorded, that he did not like doing the more explicit parts of the video, and some scenes (like her basically grinding on his lap) ended up being cut.

He was also NOT happy about how the crew kept telling the girl to get more aggressive and touch him more despite not wanting to because Michael was repeatedly saying to everyone present that he wasn't comfortable with that (seriously, IMAGINE the outrage a situation like that, with the genders reversed, would cause today).

Then the disaster happened. The false accusations of child molestation were all over the media, and the gossip went from "Hahaha, is MJ a faggot?" to "Should he be in jail forever?"

From that moment on, whatever privacy Michael was still desperately holding onto went right out the window. His relationship with Lisa Marie Presley became public, as well as the fact that he had been making moves on her while she was still with her first husband, and the two of them were repeatedly asked "Okay, but do you guys actually fuck?" and very much not believed each time they confirmed it.

Their messy divorce, Michael's second marriage (that was all about him getting to be a dad, with the wife not even living with him and the kids), and their on-again-off-again affair/relationship during said marriage was also very public.

So while I do think Michael's cheeky flirting with fans later in life was genuine, just like his first marriage, it's pretty clear that there's a reason everyone suddenly got to take a look at his private life - it was further proof of his innocence.

#asks #michael jackson

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weirdozjunkary · 11 months

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I need to yell about the unnecessary hate that Ruby Gillman has been getting from most viewers, specifically a certain quote they keep saying or what they compare the movie too. Cause it makes me so fucking mad when I see it.

“Ruby Gillman is just Turning Red 2 (but bad)”

Now to be granted, I haven’t watched Turning Red (it just never really interested me much enough to go out of my way and watch it). I have seen a decent amount of clips, but I haven’t seen it in full. But to compare Turning Red and Ruby Gillman is just fucking infuriating.

Here are the resemblances from each movie from what I can tell:

A young girl who wants to fit in at school and has a crush on a guy, finds out that the women of her family are gifted with a magical form that turns them into a large creature. She has a fight with her mom at some point.

…. That’s it. That is the bare minimum of the resemblances that I can see.

Yes, they are obvious when pointed out. But the thing is, kids argue with their parents all the fucking time! Of course the quarrel between their moms are going to be similar. But thats not the point of the fucking movies!

Turning Red is about generational trauma, what it was like to be a Chinese Canadian in the 2000’s and healing from the trauma of your parents (that is what I have heard and seen).

From what I can tell, Ruby Gillman is, in basic terms, a teen superhero movie (with underlying messages to not be afraid to be yourself). Literally the whole ‘I don’t like my new powers’ to ‘I like my new powers’ then training montage, then ‘I’m gonna save the world’ mixed in with a Kaiju fight.

Yes, I can see the similarities. But comparing these two is like comparing an apple to an orange. There’s only like four things that are similar, but that’s it.

And again, those kind of tropes have been done before in their own ways! And it’s frustrating that they’re comparing this movie to only turning red, but not comparing it or turning red to other movies who follow a similar format.

Ruby Gillman is not a perfect movie, you can take a red marker to it and find some things wrong with it. But to blatantly call it a ‘bad sequel’ or ‘ripoff’ of another movie that has one or two obvious similarities is just fucking upsetting to me!

I like this movie! It’s just silly wacky nonsense with no real deep meaning that makes you think, it’s a good movie to just enjoy it! And I’m so upset that people think it’s terrible just because of A, B and C. And I’m not saying this because of the giant Kaiju stuff, even though that was a bonus. But really, it’s just a fun movie to watch! You can dislike it for your reasons, but to hate it just on what I said is stupid to me

#rambles #rants #textpost #ruby gillman teenage kraken #turning red #movie rants #ranting about things I like

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thatorigamiguy · 1 year

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Toothbrush

Jaune was quietly working away at some notes in his hands, researching better ways to refine his fighting style when he felt a sudden weight on his left shoulder. A smile formed on his face as he looked up to see Neo sitting on his shoulder with her usual smug smile on her face.

Jaune: “Oh hey your back! You get all of your errands done that you needed to do for Roman?

She nodded her head in response, though she put her hand to her head before leaning back in feigned exasperation before letting out long suffering sigh.

Jaune: “All boring work huh? Well at least your done for the day, so that's something right?”

Neo shook her head side to side in a “fair enough” gesture, before giving Jaune an actual sincere smile as she leaned down to pecked a quick kiss on the top of his head. Jaune's smile widened at the gesture, before he went to ask her one last question.

Jaune: “Oh, did you get the thing I asked for?”

Neo rolled her eyes, as if to say “Of course I did, who do you take me for?” before hopping down from his shoulder and presenting his requested item with a flourish: two double packets of toothbrushes.

Neo: (Signing) Grabbed them on the way home. You know babe, I'm not usually one to do anything for free, but I'll make an exception just this once.

Jaune ignored her remark, she always said the same thing every time he asked for a favor and he typically paid in back with ice cream, before grabbing the packets out of her hand.

Jaune: “Perfect! Thanks Neo, you're the absolute best!”

Neo: Of course I'm the best, no need to state the obvious Jaune.

Jaune rolled his eyes at her response, before planting his own kiss on her forehead. She giggled in response to his affection, a feeling of warmth bubbling through her as her eyes rapidly shifted colors.

Jaune: “Well, I definitely owe you for going out of your way to buy toothbrushes for me. Give me a few minutes and we'll got get a bowl from downtown, how does that sound.”

Neo was already nodding in agreement, before she paused with a confused look on her face.

Neo: ...Buy? What do you mean buy?

Jaune shot her his own confused look.

Jaune: “You know, buying these toothbrushes for me?”

Neo looked at him blankly, her eyes slowly shifting colors as she tried to comprehend what he was saying as the two stared each other down.

Jaune: “...Neo. Did you steal toothbrushes?”

Neo: Uuuuh... yeah?

Jaune gaped for a moment, before giving her a very unimpressed look.

Jaune: “Seriously Neo? Toothbrushes?”

Neo: What? You thought I was going to actually pay for them? Come one Jaune, I'm a thief by trade, of course I was going to steal them!

Jaune: “You used a highly developed set of skills to steal, of all the things in the world, 'toothbrushes'? Look, I get that you and Roman are criminal masterminds and that I'm not exactly innocent either, but toothbrushes?”

Neo: (Glaring) Hey, get off my ass about it! So what if I stole some toothbrushes, big fucking deal! And why are you complaining about what I steal? I stole us a couple PlayStation Fives last week and you weren't complaining then!

Jaune: “That's because one is a 500 Lien console that's nearly next to impossible to get without sacrificing a newborn child, and the other a couple packets of toothbrushes that cost two lien a pop, at best! Neo, that is literally comparing apples to oranges, and besides, stealing petty shit like toothbrushes? That's small time stuff Neo! That's what amateurs and two-bit crooks do to get by, not professional thieves! You're better than that!”

Neo gaped at Jaune, before flushing as she really thought about it. Okay, maybe stealing toothbrushes was an absolute waste of her talents, and she really can't flex on people when there's nothing to be recognized. Finally, she threw her hands up in a huff, before shooting Jaune with another glare.

Neo: Okay fine! So stealing them was below me, what do you want me to do about it?

Jaune quirked a brow at her question, before crossing his arms as he gave her a very stern look.

Jaune: “Simple: You're going to return them, and then buy them.”

Jaune was met with another blank stare, before Neo's eyes shifted into an angry looking red.

Neo: THE FUCK I AM!

But Jaune stood his ground, his stern expression not wavering as he stared down the angry shortstack in front of him.

Jaune: “Oh Yes, you are.”

Neo: Oh no, I'm not!

Jaune: “Oh Yes, you are!”

Neo: OH NO, I'M NOT!

Jaune: “OH YES, YOU ARE!”

Neo: OH NO I'M-!”

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Cashier: (Smiling) “And your total with come out to four lien and twenty-five cents! Will that be in Lien or Card?”

Jaune returned the cashiers smile with his own, before gently nudging a scowling Neo into handing over the five lien in bill in her hand. The glare she shot his way could have melted steel, but Jaune merely gave her an expectant look in response. Their brief stare down lasted only a second, before Neo looked away in a huff as she all but shoved the bill into the cashiers hand. The Cashier didn't even falter once at her abrasive attitude, quickly opening and opening the register as she produced change for the odd couple.

Cashier: “and here's is your change sir, and I hope the two of you have a great day!”

Jaune: “Thanks, you too!”

Neo: You fucking suck, you know that right?

Jaune: “Keep up the attitude, and I'll skip out on buying us ice cream altogether.”

Neo winced, before looking up at Jaune with a pout.

Neo: Jerkface.

Jaune merely rolled his eyes in response, before he picked Neo up and perched her on his shoulder.

Jaune: “I love you too Neo.”

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Jaune wasn't disappointed in the fact that Neo stole, it's that she stole way below her expectations and that she should be focused on stealing bigger and better things. So I guess he kind of has his priorities straight, but I'd honestly expect less from the man who stole a fucking military airship. The idea for this entered into my head because the thought of Jaune and Neo arguing over stealing insignificant shit sounded like something that would be completely normal for them argue and banter over and it amused me.

#jaune arc #neopolitan #jaune arc x neopolitan #silent knight #shitpost #rwby shitpost #humor #jaune bounces back and forth between being chaotic lawful and chaotic neutral #depends on the situation #or whatever problem his murder gremlin brings home to deal with #ice cream #it always ends with Jaune getting them both ice cream

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So this one guy who blocked me because of a perfectly civil comment pointing out the flaw in something he was saying rather than actually respond and try to debate it then posted this.

Which may as well read:

It's the nostalgia strawman, the same one mentioned 5 and a half minutes into this video. It also comes up in this one and this one. And as the arguments posit in those videos, it's bullshit used as an easy way to avoid true critical engagement. However, I still want to say my piece on this post, even if the person who made it tried to stop me through blocking.

"All the writing problems in KH3 are present in KH2"

Hahahahahaha, no. Absolutely not.

Granted, I did make sure to bolden "all" since of course it's an objective fact that some of the writing problems in KH3 are indeed present in KH2 - both Tetsuya Nomura and Masaru Oka are writers on both, so it would be impossible for that not to be the case. However, let's see if this person's examples of such shared problems holds up.

Retcons

Nope. There was only one retcon in KH2, which is the retcon around Ansem's identity, which I've already discussed at length. That is literally the only time where something from a prior game got changed around, and it was already being set up in CoM. That is lightyears ahead of the retcons in KH3, several of which are retcons on a more fundamental level than just who someone really is (ex: Xigbar being Luxu is a retcon that I hate, but it's not affecting anything fundamental - it's the retcon of what he did in the past that is the true problem.)

A glut of characters with strange and poorly explained motivations

Nope. The motivations of DiZ and Organization XIII respectively were not remotely strange given their circumstances and were explained very clearly; some could argue they were overexplained. A world of difference from, say, Ansem and Saix's obsessions with Subject X, a character who isn't even a part of KH3's story.

New mechanics that don't get adequately explained

All right, I give them this one. Hell, that's been a thing since KH1.

Relying on you to play and understand side games to grasp the baseline plot.

Nope. There was only one side game at the time of KH2, which was CoM. And it was only needed to fully grasp KH2's prologue....and I say fully grasp because KH2, prologue included, was conceived before CoM was, so the prologue was always going to be intentionally confusing. Once we reach the actual baseline plot with Sora, Donald and Goofy, CoM is no longer an issue since they act like they're picking up fresh off the end of KH1.

Awkwardly rehashing the plot of Disney movies for 90% of the game and then having the bulk of the plot in the last 5 hours

Nope. The linked videos already debunked this fallacy, but for elaboration: KH2 did actually have plot-relevant events occur in half of the Disney world visits and it had a midway point where a huge chunk of the plot transpired, meaning "the bulk of the plot in the last 5 hours" is a damned lie as far as KH2 is concerned. Meanwhile, "awkwardly rehashing the plot of Disney movies for 90% of the game" makes one question if this person played either KH2 or KH3, because it doesn't apply to either of them! Three visits in each of them rehash the movie's plot (KH2: Land of Dragons 1, Port Royal 1, and Pride Land 1; KH3: Kingdom of Corona, Arendelle, The Caribbean), with one visit also having many elements of the movie's plot (KH2: Atlantica, KH3: Olympus), but otherwise the Disney worlds did their own stories.

Shafting Kairi

Half-right. Both games did shaft Kairi, but comparing the way KH2 did it with the way KH3 did it is apples and oranges, since Kairi was still a civilian damsel in KH2 and despite the shafting got to participate in its conclusion and begin her own path as a combatant; Kairi in KH3 was a combatant who spent most of the game training for that combatant role and it ended up resulting in her not participating in the conclusion because she died, got restored, only to be kidnapped and then die again. And no, Re:Mind doesn't retroactively absolve KH3 of this, especially given that the positive treatment Kairi receives there doesn't even last into the Limitcut Episode and the following game, MoM.

Imo KH3 does a somewhat better job at threading its information into a smooth plot than KH2

Nope. The "information" you speak of, objectively, is all information about past games or even future games. The only information that is relevant to pushing forward the narrative of KH3 as was established at the start of the game ("gather these specific seven Keyblade wielders to go fight Xehanort and his organization at the Keyblade Graveyard") is the stuff with Vexen and the replicas....which not only had a huge chunk of it missing until Re:Mind, but also might not have even been needed since Nomura said he considered doing the story without resurrecting Roxas and Xion in the climax.

So in total, this post only had one thing completely correct (both KH2 and KH3, and all KH games for that matter, have new mechanics that don't get adequately explained because Nomura is just like that), and one thing partially correct (both KH2 and KH3 shaft Kairi, but pretending the shafting is in any way equivalent is a logical fallacy). Everything else listed isn't actually comparable to KH3 at all, proving once again that this isn't a nostalgia filter issue. It's a legitimate observation that KH3 suffered terribly from the decision to bog it down with connections to so many other games and from Nomura and Oka getting rid of all their co-contributors like Kazushige Nojima, Daisuke Watanabe and Harunori Sakemi.

#Disney #Square Enix #Kingdom Hearts #Kingdom Hearts II #Kingdom Hearts III #Opinion #Analysis #Comparison #Fandumb #Stupidity #Objection #Correction #Truthbomb #Anti-Kingdom Hearts #Anti-Square Enix #Anti-Nomura #Anti-Tetsuya Nomura

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I was reading your post about the megumi character trope and this is related but not?

Anyways, as someone who likes both sasuke and megumi, and I've come to like sasuke recently as I've finally checked out naruto, but it's bizarre to me how superficial their similarities are and it's crazier how people reduce their characters to their aloofness or dar hair or things like that and use that as a way to judge a character overall when their character arcs are so different imo. I have issues with how sasuke's character was handled in the story, but I've become very fond of the things he did for the story overall, so no problem for me, but I'm not sure megumi's arc will end or proceed any similiar to sasuke's with revenge as the main motivation, or at least I don't think so, I'm a couple chaps behind, but yeah, the way both characters process their own trauma or how their motivations are different enough for me to ignore the superficial ways in which they are similiar

I say it's also tough liking both in fandom spaces because naruto is still really popular and jjk is in the spotlight currently, so fandoms can be tense with each other and it's exhausting to see the slander going every which way lol

They say this as a way to slander mgm, but the "Megumi will never be sasuke" is funny because I don't think he's trying to be???

HOLA!

WELCOME to THE ULTIMATE SHONEN BATTLE FOR THE BEST "QUIET AND ALOOF DEUTERAGONIST-KUN": MEGUMI VS SASUKE!

Who's better? Well... let's ask the internet...

ok nvm. NEVER ask the internet for an opinion. ESPECIALLY when the Naruto fans who think Kishimoto is the mother of all anime tropes get involved.

This isn't even a question of whether Gege took inspiration from Sasuke for Megumi because 1) Sasuke himself takes inspiration from a Togashi character and, 2) "quiet and aloof deuteragonist-kun" is one of the most prevalent tropes in animanga--the trope is not even unique to shonen, hell even the 3-man team isn't unique to Naruto.

Nothing against Kishi but... he's doing the same thing every mangaka or author EVER has done--copying tropes.

At least Gege subverts them.

Let's taco'bout it more under the cut because I have many words to vomit about the topic.

Also... man, this is a fantastic conversation to have because, based on the comments I've seen about why Sasuke is "objectively" better, I feel like it comes back to a lack of introspection, dare I say toxic masculinity (?), and perhaps just not understanding or relating to Megumi as a character.

I've written before about Megumi's character development and how relating to him has a lot to do with how deeply you can be introspective about yourself. I won't address character development much here, so if you want to, you can read that post here.

But when it comes to Megumi vs. Sasuke, it's almost like comparing apples to oranges. Yes, they're both fruit (quiet and aloof deuteragonist-kun), AND they also have a different flavor profile, different texture, different scent... the list goes on.

And the way I see it, if someone can't see how the differences between Sasuke and Megumi make them fundamentally different despite sharing the same trope, then they can't "objectively" claim one is better than the other.

So I'm going to go ahead and just say it.

I don't like Sasuke. I never did and I never understood why he was so popular.

The comments about Megumi having the depth of a kiddie pool?

I feel the exact same about Sasuke.

I literally can't think of much to say about him other than he was pissy and had a sour attitude the whole time... umm... he wanted revenge and power... ? I guess?

And you know what? It's perfectly ok that I don't like Sasuke because my subjective opinion does not mean that someone who loves Sasuke is wrong about loving him. After all, my opinion should not be a measuring stick for someone who loves Sasuke.

In fact, I have moots who think very highly of Sasuke AND Megumi, and like them for different reasons. So I actually try to refrain from speaking negatively of Sasuke because I respect my moot's opinions and know that perhaps I am not seeing something they can.

That said, when we compare Sasuke and Megumi, we're measuring the characters against standards that don't apply to either of them.

Since Sasuke is on a revenge character arc, you can't really talk about how he explores his sense of self in order to re-define it (which is one of the main reasons I love Megumi). Sasuke wants power, but that just means he has to train harder.

Megumi does go the training route, but in the end, perhaps it was a moment of clarity and introspection that helped him level up, not just the physical training.

Likewise, since Megumi is on an arc meant to re-define his sense of self, you can't really talk about how he went about seeking power to reach his goal because Megumi is not interested in power for the sake of power, and/or does not have grandiose aspirations.

As you say, their motivations couldn't be more different.

Now, I think it bears repeating that when I started watching jjk, even though I liked him right from the beginning, I thought Megumi was underwhelming af given his trope.

But that's only because, again, I was measuring Megumi against the wrong standards.

In retrospect, I also do feel like Gege wanted Megumi to be perceived as "underwhelming given his trope" (MOST ESPECIALLY SASUKE imo), otherwise the payoff in chapter 58 would not have had the same impact.

So anyways.

To your point. Existing at the intersection of these two fandoms must be an interesting experience because most of the bad comparisons are rooted on surface level similarities.

Thing is, being able to see the nuance between the two characters and why neither is objectively better than the other, does require the ability to read below the surface AND to at least have a certain degree of emotional investment in the story and the characters.

Also, can I just say fandom wars are so pointless?

It's just a bunch of people who can't handle the idea that other people could have a different opinion because they see their opinion as the ultimate truth.

And don't let me act like I'm not the kind of pretentious asshat who will say something like "Megumi is a purposeful deconstruction but Aki is a copy" because I can be quite elitist myself. I just also don't take my opinion too seriously because I know I don't own the ultimate truth about what is and isn't good media.

Also I like to indulge in trash tv like every normal human being in this planet so that alone makes my taste questionable.

To that point, I saw a really good quote that is so relevant to your ask:

The price for certainty means that other people must be wrong. And that leads to holy war.

Lionel Corbett

"uwu Megumi is weak"

But... there's something that has been nagging me about why people don't like Megumi in general that is highly related to how his predecessors, Sasuke included, set the bar we use to measure the trope, most specifically in Battle Shonen.

And that's that the way me measure what makes Megumi a good character is based on toxic masculinity values.

Now... I'm not an expert on the topic, so please correct me if I'm wrong or need to expand my perspective here but...

There's something inherently "toxic" about how people are approaching both Megumi independently of Sasuke, and Megumi compared to Sasuke.

Like... if Sasuke wouldn't curl up in a ball because he's had to experience a traumatic event and instead just keeps on going, that's called repression and/or suppression and it's both not a healthy coping mechanism AND not realistically written.

So what if Sasuke would never?

Why is it wrong for a character (or a real human for that matter) to feel so defeated after the trauma they've had to face?

I am more interested in learning why we are so obsessed with looking down on a fictional character for feeling down on himself... like, Momo, are you ok, dude?

Do you ever allow yourself to feel all your feels or do you just berate yourself when you feel down on yourself?

And why are we measuring trauma on a scale of who has it worse just so that we can cancel someone else's trauma?

Actually, the fact that we can sit here and talk about who has it best and who has it worse like it's a competition?

That's gaslighting, and it's toxic af.

But again. The problem is that jjk fans themselves hate on Megumi independently of whether they compare him to Sasuke or not.

And I'm not sure whether kin here just has shitty reading comprehension skills, but...

I'm noticing a trend that has EVERYTHING to do with my female gaze and it's the fact that I kind of don't give a fuck about power scaling.

Like, it's cool. I'm not hating on people who do, you know. I'm just saying I don't care for it. But what I'm trying to say here is that people hate on Megumi for weird reasons...

Like... I don't think Hyena here is reading the same manga if he can't tell that Megumi has had character development, unless what he expects in terms of character development is...

Which is fine too... I loved dbz back in the day.

Who could ever forget Goku looking like he has to poop so bad his hair grows really long?

But like... are we fucking for real? JJK is far too nuanced to limit your experience of the manga to flashy fights and power ups only.

Again, if this is the standard we are using to measure Megumi as a character, no wonder people are disappointed.

So I say let them eat cake.

No shade to all of the people who I screenshotted here, but they're going to have to come up with smarter arguments to back up their subjective opinions about Sasuke's supposed objective superiority and why Megumi sucks.

In all honesty, the fact that Megumi is perceived as weak strikes me as toxic masculinity.

I get that some people read fiction to escape from their daily lives and not have to face the failures and successes they experience in the real world, but I personally want more human characters who fail and cry because that's more relatable to me than Goku's super powered instinct Saiyan form or whatever its called.

I guess we all read for different reasons. All I'm saying is "don't hate on Megumi for shortsighted reasons."

To bring it back to where it all started, let's be real here:

Megumi will NEVER be Sasuke

and that is fantastic news because Megumi is Megumi and that's exactly why we love him.

Dear anon, I think I went on a rant there hahahaha.

BAH! I just get so annoyed when people hate on Megumi for shallow reasons. Like, if you don't like him, you don't like him and that's that. But like some of the comments about him are just...

LOL!

Thank you for stopping by anon!

#fushiguro megumi #god i love jujutsu kaisen #fushiguro megumi lovers unite #ask the mental gymnastics anime girl

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