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clownrecess · 1 year
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(tw for beauty standards, exclusion, etc.)
I want to talk about the modeling industry and its severe need for diversity.
I'm someone who really enjoys watching runway models on YouTube, I like seeing the different clothes, walks, models, etc. I also really like fashion in general. But, for many reasons, the modeling industry is obviously really really messed up. There is a reason that's a lot worse than this one, but I dont feel comfortable talking about it, and also this fits my blog better.
Representation matters. It's important for everyone to feel seen, valued, and included. When the majority of models we see on the runways are thin, tall, able bodied, and predominantly white, it sends really harmful messages to people who don't fit into these narrow categories. It reinforces unrealistic beauty ideals and erases the beauty of diversity that exists in our world. This lack of diversity not only affects aspiring models who don't fit into the industry's limited mold but also has a significant impact on the self-esteem and body image of people who consume fashion media. It perpetuates the idea that only a certain type of person is worthy of being considered beautiful, which can be incredibly damaging to people who don't fit those standards.
I LOVE seeing disabled models, POC models, fat models, models with scars, etc.
"The industry isn't meant for *insert description here* people. It just doesn't work!" No. That is not true in the slightest! I have seen many fantastic models who are fat, disabled, etc.
We all wear clothes. And those clothes look just as good on minorities as they do on people who fit the beauty standard.
ALSO THE POSSIBILITES?? Models who use mobility aids just have double the opportunity to make a unique look. I want to see a design that incorporates the models mobility aid into it, makes it part of the art. Imagine a fashion show where designers create stunning garments that not only complement the model's mobility aid but also make it an integral part of the overall artistic vision. A beautifully designed dress that flows around a wheelchair, or a pair of stylish crutches that are adorned with intricate patterns and colors. The possibilities are endless, and the results would be truly breathtaking.
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riverofrainbows · 2 years
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I hate you preserving beauty at the cost of enjoyment.
I saw a video of a woman with extremely thick hair doing a thinning method at home. One comment said "my hairdresser heart weeps" because apparently her method may lead to frizz and impact a unified hair look. The woman had so much hair it was giving her headaches.
Its the same as people telling me when I had long hair never to cut it because its so impressive. Its people telling natural redheads never to dye their hair because its such a rare pretty colour.
Its transmasc people being told they were so pretty as a girl and are wasting that.
Its girls being told they are wasting their figure/physical attributes because they are not displaying them constantly and wearing comfortable baggy clothes.
It's people telling you to never go in the sun, not smile and not to use a straw because it will give you wrinkles. Its being told not to eat certain foods because they are bad for your skin, or to do eat other foods because they are good for your skin regardless of whether you enjoy either of those foods. It's being expected to put hours into your skin care and prioritise it over activities you enjoy so you have younger looking skin when you are old.
It's being expected to wear clothes that are uncomfortable because they make you look thinner/more like an hourglass. Not to move in certain ways because it will be unflattering.
It's telling people not to prioritise themselves and their interests in their decisions but instead to prioritise their skin/hair/figure/etc.
I did not agree to preserve whatever natural features i was born with like a one man historical society for myself just because i happened to be made of those genes. I have every right to use and enjoy my body in ways other people don't think fitting and that don't preserve features that currently fit societal beauty standards. I do not agree to hold aesthetic pursuit over comfort and health and happiness.
I know one thing. When i am old i will certainly regret every single day i ate a papaya for breakfast (i hate papaya) instead of a pancake and didn't go into the sun. I will not regret having wrinkles, i just hope they are from laughing.
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artist-rat · 3 months
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I feel your breath upon my neck / a soft caress as cold as death
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uncanny-tranny · 2 years
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Every now and again, I remember this meme (usually after seeing this exact situation) and I always want to spread it.
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gemsofgreece · 7 months
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Do you have any reliable sources about beauty in Ancient Greece that you can recommend? Something that would help a person draw mythological characters with more credibility?
For example, something that would help someone draw a character described as beautiful or very beautiful (Helena, Achilles, Penelope, Aphrodite, etc.) and actually look like they would be seen as beautiful or very beautiful in the context of the work. Or even clothes and accessories! The popular idea of Greek clothing is kind of generic (you know, that idea of "just put on soft-looking white fabrics, put a laurel wreath on their head and they'll look Greek enough" and even women, even high-class ones, having rather simple hairstyles.)
I don't intend to post, it's more for practice. So if the source you know is very dense, it's okay because, as it is an exercise, the study part is important. In case you respond, I would like to thank you in advance for giving me some of your time.
Do I count as a reliable source? XD It's just that all the knowledge I have about this comes from snippets of information throughout my life and not so much a targeted study, the sources of which I would have kept.
I would argue however that most of the information you can find on the Internet (apart from ones manipulated by political motives, both western appropriation of the Greek culture AND wokism) is fairly reliable, because thankfully it is based on the very scripts and statues of the Ancient Greeks, so it's hard to go that wrong. Those are the legit sources.
For example, Homer uses two epithets to characterize Greeks again and again; καλλικνήμιδες and ευπλόκαμοι. The former means "with beautiful legs" and the latter means "with beautiful long hair". Both were apparently beautiful features Greeks took pride in. The leg one is particularly used for warriors, which means they had toned, long, lean and strong legs. The hair is used for both sexes, as both sexes had very long hair until the classical period, often worn in many braids. In general, up to the Archaic period, the beauty standards weren't dissimilar to the ones of Minoan and Mycenaean times. The long hair Greek men had before the classical era (and beyond it for some Greeks, such as the Spartans) is rarely seen in modern representations. I don't know if it was the beauty standard or the universal truth but Ancient Greek depicted themselves almost always with wavy or curly hair, almost never straight or curly with very tight rings.
The skintone difference between men and women was also a totally legit beauty standard - handsome men were tanned, which was a sign they were roasting under the sun doing tough, manly things, warring, sailing, farming etc Beautiful women are constantly called λευκώλενος which means "with white arms, hands". Women showed their noble demeanour or descent by staying at home being dutiful wives, avoiding the harshness of the sun, dust and dirt. Being fair was the beauty standard for women. This differentiation between men and women was ongoing from Minoan up to Classical times, and most likely beyond this as well.
Beautiful women are also described to have doe eyes or cattle eyes, meaning expressive and elongated almond eyes. Having quick-glancing, clever, shining eyes ("ελικώπις") was very valued too. Goddesses such as Athena are often called "γλαυκώπις" which means "bright, white eyed". Of course it doesn't literally mean "white", unless Athena was indeed imagined like that, but with bright, light eyes. Other than that, the eyecolour is not often mentioned. The majority obviously had brown and hazel eyes, however there were blue and green eyes, there is scant art about it. But it isn't clear what the beauty standard for eyecolour was - what interested the Greeks more was the shape, size and expression of the eye. They were charmed by spirited eyes. "The eye is the window to the soul" type of thing.
Being blonde was considered a sign of noble or even divine descent, therefore it was considered very beautiful and not very common. There are sources that Greek women in later antiquity died their hair with some dyes to make them appear a little lighter. So a beautiful Greek man or woman could be blonde, but not Scandinavian or grey blonde, more like dirty blonde, gold blonde, strawberry blonde.
Throughout all sources in existence, Greeks were very interested in the health and good physique. A handsome man had to be lean, strong and toned. I mean, there are countless six pack ancient statues at a time it was crazy hard to achieve this. Greeks weren't fond of the bear type of strong though, all male bodies in sculptures look lean, even the heracleian (herculian) ones which are sturdier are still lean compared to the modern very muscular or the bear type. Greeks also found proportions and symmetry very important.
On the other hand, according to statues of the Classical period and onwards a beautiful woman should have some fat on her, be juicy and soft, especially in the belly and the hips, signs of fertility. Nice arms were meaty and soft and nice breasts were perky and round. Legs were comparatively leaner and long, since as I said Greeks took pride in that. A beautiful woman could either be a little plump or toned, depending on the region again.
Based on the statues, ideal facial traits was a straight (not curvy), proportionate nose and medium or full curvy lips.
From the classical period onward it all became about the beard for men, in place of their earlier fascination with beautiful hair. A handsome mature man kept his hair neatly cut and had a strong, thick beard, not very long. Before a young man could grow a decent beard, the beauty standards for him were more feminine, with a boyish softer youthful charm (still ripped af though XD). Cheeks in young men and women are round, however the chin is usually well defined.
As for fashion. Fashion was indeed modest and somewhat plain after the archaic times, it is not a stereotype. What you could play with to make the outfit fancier is the accessories, jewellery, belts, pins etc. If you want something more special, draw early Archaic or Mycenean or Minoan women, whose clothing was very interesting and vibrant, with a lot of geometric cuts and bold colours.
Good make-up involved an emphasis in making the face appear whiter (chalk and lead hazard), charchoal for eye-liner and thickening of the eyebrows and red iron oxide for the lips.
Yes, please, skip on the excessive laurel wreath usage, not that it wasn't a thing but we can have enough of it.
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Late Archaic kouros. Note the sixpack, the tall toned legs, the long braided hair.
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Different skintone standards between men and women. Helen wears some fancy outfit here as well.
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Large expressive almond eyes in a Minoan woman. Also the make-up. Minoans are pre-Greeks, but they had similar beauty standards and fashion sense with the Mycenaeans and then they mixed with them anyway.
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Idea for elaborate Late Myceanean - Early Archaic fashion. Souce here, you're gonna like it.
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The Caryatids in Amphipolis are IMO some of the prettiest female statues in Ancient Greek art. This is a relatively recent discovery and the monument has not yet opened to visitors.
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Medici Aphrodite (Venus de Medici), Hellenistic era. Aphrodite was juicy.
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You might as well reach fifty, the sixpack and v-line are ALWAYS there. Beauty wise, men might have actually had it harder than women in Ancient Greece XD
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Ancient Greek jewellery with dates for reference.
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The statue of Antinous in Delphi is a statue we definitely do not talk enough about. Even though the body is toned and the muscles are defined, a beautiful young man is portayed with cheeks and softer angles in the face.
This is what I know, I think it's a pretty safe summary, however any followers with specific sources can add them in the comments. Hopefully all this will help you out with your practice!
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notdelusionalatall · 1 month
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tartagliatum · 4 months
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friendofthecrows · 28 days
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OK I need to talk about something unhappy (long post, but I have Something to Say):
(TW medical; TW weight discussion)
When I was in the hospital, not one but TWO nurses complemented how skinny I was. I was in the hospital because I was bleeding into my intestines due to a crohn's flare-up, and I found out while I was there that I was also extremely malnourished.
One nurse, while injecting a med intended to prevent blood clots, said, "your tummy is so flat and perfect, I feel bad injecting it."
...to a patient literally starving because they aren't absorbing the nutrients from the food they eat.
A common side effect of the most recent and popular class of crohn's meds (biologics) is weight gain, and unlike for steroids, this weight gain is mainly because of symptom relief and levels out over time. And yet, when you look it up, you find article after article about how to control your weight while on whichever biologic you're taking.
When I was 11 and I should've been gaining lots of weight during puberty, I started losing it instead, and when I insisted I had no idea why, my doctor told me I had anorexia. I didn't even know what anorexia was yet, and my dad tried to step in and inform her that I ate a lot. WELL over what most people my size ate. I ate as much as him, a 6'2 and heavy-set mountain of a man. So the doctor said I must be throwing the food up after eating, and asked how long I spent in the bathroom after meals. If the doctor hadn't already decided that my being underweight was a vanity thing, maybe the answer would've been a sign that they should refer me to a GI clinic. Instead, she insisted that I weigh every morning, naked, with my dad's supervision so I didn't lie, and that he check the toilet after every time I used it to make sure I wasn't secretly throwing up. This went on for a year and instead of gaining weight, I kept losing it, and faster. My dad brought up my obvious GI issues, but the doctor's advice at this point summed up to, "We don't know what's causing it if not an eating disorder, so we will just have to see if fixes itself." I got down to 69 lbs at 5'4 before it began to "fix itself." Though, I stayed underweight. I got scouted for modeling three separate times, and my mom told me I shouldn't make that decision so young because the industry is exploitative. I got endless compliments. I still do, and when I do sex work, how skinny I am is a frequent line of praise people tell me.
I decided some people are naturally skinnier (true, and I have a narrow build on top of that), and that since people liked it, it probably wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't bad enough to look sick, after all.
Lying in a hospital bed trying to keep down an Ensure that my body did NOT like, only to be complemented on my tiny waist by the nurse that gave me the Ensure, it really just settled in.
There is no looking sick enough for people to stop praising thinness. There is no valid enough reason for gaining weight for people to stop writing fear-mongering articles about how to lose it.
I want to gain weight so that my body has enough energy to do things like "stay awake for an entire day" or "go for a 15 minute walk." If I do so, I throw away being desired (not entirely, but much of it). Ultimately, it isn't a choice at all. I want to feel like an actual living thing and not land in the hospital again. But it is absolutely fucked that our society makes it a trade-off.
And if I can indulge in some bitterness, I hope that every doctor who saw my thinness as a sign that my health was "not too bad" instead of a warning sign either learns and changes or dies of some sort of wasting disease.
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princess-vibes25 · 4 months
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Whenever someone tries to say something about how the body positivity movement is all about telling people being fat is a healthy lifestyle, I tell them about how I, at the ripe old age of 9 years old, wanted an eating disorder because I knew it could cause irreparable damage to your body so that you would have problems gaining weight even if you managed to recover. That’s right, I would rather having a potentially fatal mental and physical illness than live my life with the baby fat that I naturally had.
My first memory of hating my body was when I was either 4 or 5 and my mom got me one of those cute little kid bikinis for the Fourth of July with little Stars and Stripes all over it so that I could have fun in the blow-up pool in our backyard. However, looking at myself in the Disney princess vanity mirror, I wanted to cry. And even though I was so young and obviously I wasn’t going to look like a skinny model, I still immediately panicked and changed into a one-piece before hiding that kid bikini in the bottom of my drawer.
Today I am a mid-size young woman that still sometimes goes into a depression about my body, but I know that in the big picture, I have recovered greatly from those years of looking at myself in the mirror and telling myself that no one would ever love me (though sometimes that particular thought worms it’s way into my brain).
That is what the body positivity movement is. A way to tell little kids that hey, looking different than the starving models on the runways and in movies isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In fact, even just having bigger girls on the screen and not as jokes or awful caricatures would have made me feel so much better about myself.
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Once the marauders made a book called Snivellus show. It was all about Snape's bad moments at hogwarts. (They made sure he had bad moments at least once a day so they could take his photo for the book)
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And the picture was on the cover
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jukain4216 · 3 months
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Watching people hate on TWS Dohoon for "looking Filipino" reminds me why I hate kpop stans so much
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ohmuqueen · 1 year
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I don’t even know what’s the worst thing about this, but I wish I could yell at SOMEone
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notdelusionalatall · 5 months
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i am pissed
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citrus-blade · 6 months
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Victoria's Secret - Jax
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Dream had been working for this all his life, ever since he was little. Exercising every day, eating as little as possible and making sure to look perfect. And now here he was, auditioning for the top designer of the last ten years, Technoblade.
The man was famour for leaving behind traditional clothing, putting man in skirts and lacey underwear and women in clothes similar to the ones of Adam Sandler. But damn did they all look amazing.
He had sent in his portfolio with his best pictures a few weeks ago and had gotten a reply only a few days back. An invitation for an official audition, showing his walk and posing in his own best outfit. The chosen outfit was a mix of different pieces of different designers.
A transparent white blouse with riffles that let through the lacey black bralette and a red lacey corset over the blouse. To that black shorts with a big bow at the back and slightly highed boots. He looked amazing, he knew it. This was the day he had worked to ever since he was small.
And he rocked that walk, it was probably the best walk he ever did with the best poses he had. People around him whispered, Techno's assistants seemed to be happy, clapping their hands and smiling widely.
But then it happened, he stood in front of them all and Techno had rejected him. Dream couldn't believe it, neither could Techno's assistants or the other models. Defeated Dream got dressed in his usual clothes, ready to get back home and cry himself to sleep.
However, when he stepped outside he notices the strong rain and with no umbrella he had no other choice but wait it out. After a few minutes none other than Technoblade left the building, walking past him. With all his courage Dream grabbed his arm, asking why Techno had rejected him.
His answer was simple, yet humiliating. Dream was simply too thin, looked too malnourished and that confused Dream. He told Techno that all his life people told him he looked too big, that he had to loose weight. Only a few months back he lost even more cause another designer told him his thighs were too fat.
Techno frowned at him, told him that it was bullshit. That society went too far with those unrealistic beauty standards which only made people sick and insecure. Dream accepted the rejection now, letting go of the designer with a defeated sigh,
But Techno kept staring at him and eventually suggested a deal. He told Dream that, when he'd gain some weigh in a healthy way, he'd let him model his next collection. As a starter Techno offered to invite him to dinner that evening and with a smile Dream accepted.
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lifeonkylesfarm · 5 months
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tw beauty standards, eating disorders
genuinely, the makeup, beauty, and cosmetic surgery industries are all so fucking toxic, and they'll do anything to stay in business
whether it's "you need this makeup to look beautiful" "you need this surgery to look beautiful" "wear makeup but do it for you queen" "get cosmetic surgery to empower yourself and be your best self girl!"
it doesn't matter
either way, they're convincing us that 1. we need or should change ourselves and our bodies, 2. that we are not okay as we are; we are not enough as we are, and 3. beauty is important, beauty is value. they have to convince us of these things so that they can stay in business. but in the process, they are a major contributing force to eating disorders and the chronically low, everlastingly horrific self-esteem of women.
in feminist circles, we talk a decent amount about makeup/cosmetics, but we rarely talk about cosmetic surgery and how harmful it is.
I feel like whenever I see talk about cosmetic surgery it's basically just "is Kim Kardashian's ass fake or real?" that talk alone is harmful. women are shamed for their bodies but then shamed for getting surgery to make them what society says they should be.
but also just,,, the way that I have seen people genuinely try to present cosmetic surgery as empowering. this is not plastic surgery, it's not reconstructive, it's not the surgeries trans people get or the surgeries people get after having breast cancer. this is the pressure to totally alter your body, literally just for men. they won't frame it like it's for men. they'll never frame it like that. it's always "feel comfortable in your body!" but the reason women don't feel comfortable in their bodies is beauty standards, beauty standards that are built into PATRIARCHY (i.e. for MEN, for male consumption)
women are taught to pick apart their bodies into alterable pieces, parts to improve, rather than a cohesive vessel that is the form we take in life.
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salty-eggg · 13 days
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Reaaaally not enjoying these pits of body dysmorphia I find myself falling into often lmaoo one minute I'm like "I'm above beauty standards. It doesn't bother me at all, my body is ever-changing and it's stupid to subscribe these arbitrary expectations" to "hnnnng my face is too round literally everything else would be Fine if my face was slimmer, I need to work out Immediately and eat less cause if I don't I will Explode oh my god I'm so ugly"
Like just fucking relax and let me enjoy these photos I took w my bf😭
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