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Walked into my roommate's room halfway through watching XO Kitty to tell her about how it was an enjoyable silly new Netflix show but that they weren't giving the queer relationships as much development and screentime as their straight counter parts.
Finished the season and had to burst into her room again to correct myself because HOW WRONG I WAS. I could not have been more wrong about the queer rep. Holy shit was I wrong.
#xo kitty#actually good bi representation???#in which her relationships with and feelings for boys and girls are treated as equally valid??#so incredibly rare and i'm living for it#this show is narratively a bit of a mess and you have suspend a lot of disbelief#but it's cute and fun#and I really hope we get a second season#after all the strikes :) when netflix and the other production companies will hopefully be paying and treating their workers better#(support the WGA DGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes my friends)
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Canon Events that have happened over the three episodes that have me going INSANE (like, these actually happened and are not Fanon.)
Buck asked Tommy for a tour of Harbour, not because he wanted to consider learning to fly, or leave the 118, but soley because he wanted to hang out with Tommy.
Buck used Christopher for information on Tommy.
Buck pretended to suddenly be into Basketball so that he could go to the game, just because he knew Eddie and Tommy would be there.
MADDIE MOCKED BUCK ABOUT OPENLY HAVING A CRUSH ON EDDIE.
Buck body slammed Eddie while playing Basketball (honestly, I still cannot get over the fact that he YEETED THIS BOII).
Tommy got Buck's address from Eddie and chose to come around to apologise to Buck even though, TECHNICALLY, Buck was the one acting like a spoilt brat all episode.
BUCK WAS KISSED BY A MAN. SPECIFICALLY, BUCK WAS KISSED BY TOMMY. And then proceeded to be swept off his feet by this man and was left starstruck in his apartment, after Tommy openly communicated that he had to go to work and wasn't just kissing and bailing.
"I'm an Ally."... Need I say no more.
Buck acted like a totally fucking idiot on his first date with Tommy, and proceeded to have Tommy cut the date short because of how unready he seemed. WHICH BY THE WAY, TOMMY AGAIN COMMUNICATED SO BEAUTIFULLY WITH BUCK AND PROCEEDED TO STILL CALL THIS MAN ADORABLE. HE CALLED HIM ADORABLE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
Buck accidently outed himself to Maddie because he was doing a ramble ramble about his lil buck'ed up date.
Buck told Eddie he was on a date with Tommy, and Eddie proceeded to be the bestie of besties to Buck and told him, they all loved him anyways. HE USED THE WORDS. Bucks face in that scene will forever make my lil gay heart WEEP.
Buck told Eddie he couldn't stop thinking about the hot pilot that kissed him. CRYING.
Buck proceeded to grow the fuck up and apologised to Tommy, face to face, out in a public space, knowing full well that Tommy could have dropped his ass there and then, but still wanted to show him how sorry he was, and that he was, in fact, ready.
BUCK INVITED TOMMY TO BE HIS DATE TO THE MADNEY WEDDING DESPITE ONLY technically GOING ON TWO DATES. AND THEN TOMMY. SAID. YES. HE SAID YES. YES.
Buck also then invited Tommy to Chim's bachelor party, HELD HIS ARMS OPEN ACROSS THE ROOM READY FOR A HUG, told Tommy off for his outfit, showing off true Clipboard Buck form, AND THEN TOUCHED HIS PECK.
Eddie, the bestie of besties, got all sappya and jokey when he saw Tommy and Buck together.
Buck got all pouty when Tommy had to go to work, BUT TOLD HIM TO BE SAFE. HE SAID BE SAFE DAMNIT.
Buck got all goofy and smiley when he saw that Tommy had arrived at the hospital, MEANING, that he was most likely texting Tommy all day updating him on everything that was going on, even if Tommy couldn't respond while attending to the fire.
BUCK. CALLED. TOMMY. A. BEAST. HE SAID THIS CANONICALLY. ARE YOU JOKING. HE FULLY ATTACKED MY MAN, WHILE HE WAS COVERED IN SOOT AND SHIT, SNOGGED HIS FACE OFF IN A HOSPITAL WAITING ROOM, AND CALLED HIM A BEAST. I AM DECEASED.
Buck, the idiot that he is, proceeded to out himself, to his entire family, by coming back into the room, most likely 15 to 20 minutes after leaving, covered in soot because he had been uncontrollably making out with his hot pilot boyfriend.
Eddie, the bestie of besties, GOT SO FUCKING SMUG WHEN HE SAW BUCK AND TOMMY WALK BACK IN THAT ROOM. HE PULLED THE SAME FACE I PULL WHEN MY FRIENDS HAVE COME BACK FROM MAKING OUT WITH PEOPLE AND I AM HERE FOR IT. EDDIE YOU BESTIE SLAY SLAY SLAY.
Hen, the queen that she is, has most likely spoken to Karen about her suspicons of Buck's sexuality, and procceed to say ABOUT DAMN TIME. SHE KNEW THIS WHOLE TIME. HER GAYDAR IS ON FIRE. I LOVE HER.
Again, all of these events happened IN ACTUAL EPISODES, not in a fanfiction. I am FERAL over this. Bi!Buck is the best thing to ever happen to me.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk and if you don't ship BuckTommy, leave.
#911 abc#911 spoilers#this is me talking about all the cannon events that have me currently going insane#none of these were from a fanficiton#all of these things actually happened in episodes#like this is all real life#isnt that CRAZY#i am so feral over this are you kidding#still not over that kiss from last night i cannot lie#buck called tommy a beast are you JOKING me right now#bi buck saved me#I am so hyped about this#listen i love buddie#i do#but#BUT#eddie as the bestie of besties is my favourite thing and i love how supportive he is of buck right now#as someone who is queer and did not have a single supportive friend when i first came out#this representation is everything to me#this is healing my childhood trauma#so how about we let tommy and buck be for a bit huh#and leave eddie to deal with his catholic guilt before he even considers having a gay awakening#thank you for coming to my ted talk#only good vibes in this house#any negativity will face my wrath#all the love for my firefighters#evan buckley#eddie diaz#tommy kinard#henrietta wilson
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more pet peeves from BG3 Reddit (and about a fairly common attitude from straight people in general): BG3 treating queer people as so accepted that their presence doesn’t merit any comment at all is ONE way to do representation. It is not the ONLY way, and yet straight people are queueing up to tell us that Larian has done it ‘right’ by ‘not making it a thing’. Heaven forfend straight people have to encounter queer people with actual related needs and opinions and a different experience of the world as a result of their sexuality or gender.
I am happy with the way they do queer rep in BG3, but like… it’s not the only correct or good way of doing it. Ugh.
#rant#bg3#representation#look Reddit has good stuff sometimes I swear#I can’t resist lurking until something inevitably annoys me too much lol#this has been in the drafts for ages#resuscitating bc of the whole F Blaxland thing#idk. just don’t like being told my representation is now sufficiently palatable by people#who clearly wouldn’t respect me if I expressed any negative feelings about the way society actually is for queers#also I think there could be a lot more trans/gnc/nb characters tbh#I’m a cis bi woman and yes#I get my rep#lots of it#but that doesn’t preclude criticism
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i have THOUGHTS and OPINIONS about BG3's nomination for Outstanding Video Game at the GLAAD media awards. a probably slightly confused and certain-to-be negative ramble below the cut.
Idk I just....the queer rep in BG3 is Aylin/Isobel, that one pair of gnome husbands with ambient blink-and-you-miss-it dialog, Nocturne, and the debatably-playersexual companions. The character creator is also lovely and trans inclusive. And....I'm pretty sure that's it. (edit: there’s also Lucretia! How could I forget everyone’s favorite drag queen necromancer.) If there's more rep than that, it's stuff that I, a flaming homosexual who looks for this kind of thing, have missed on all of my multiple playthroughs.
The nomination makes complete sense. It is groundbreaking for a AAA game with this level of mainstream success to have this kind of queer rep. But like. I hope it doesn't win.
#a lot of this definitely has to do with my own feelings about playersexual romances#versus writing actually truly bisexual characters#yes yes yes i know i know people love to argue that the bg3 companions are bi not playersexual#because of some of the ambient walking-around dialogue they have with each other#i disagree#astarion is unambiguously queer because of his bit with sebastian#aaaaaaaaaand that's it!#my benchmark as always is whether my oblivious straight friend would catch that these characters are queer without me needing to point it o#and honestly even the sebastian thing only barely clears that mark#when you start needing to pull non-cutscene dialogue that not every player will see to build a case that a character is canonically queer#rather than playersexual twitter canon#i'm sorry but that's not a convincing argument#i fully agree with you that shadowheart and lae'zel are having passionate hate sex#but that doesn't make it good representation
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Day 3 - Bisexual Character
I had so so many characters to choose from for today, yet so little time to draw today !! I’m bisexual myself and having to choose just one physically made me explode like the gusher candies from Max and Ruby.
So miette cookie it is today . the woowoo, even , if you will .
#werewolf cookie#werewolf cookie run#cookie run pride 2022#cookie run#they ended up looking somewhat feminine but I think it’s nice !#god I love the bi flag colours they are so nice.#i love being bisexual in general actually#not to rant in the tags of my own post but .#it makes me so incredibly?? giddy??? to see anything bisexual related#bi headcanons? SO TRUE ILY!!!!#i didn’t understand before how nice it is to feel? represented? even in fan media / interpretations#i had that sort of through good representation of women. However it feels? different? when it’s my sexuality#anyways .
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why is the morning show so underrated?????? i think it might be apple tv's best show yet i binged it all and im starving for more why is there no fandom i am lost and lonely and im having withdrawals symptoms i think this is bad everyone drop what you're doing and go watch the morning show please u have a chance to save a life here!!!
#started for jennifer aniston stated for every single one of the actors and writers and all the crew#its so good like genuinely it blows my mind#and it has queer representation??? what#bi main girly??#healthy wlw relationship??#a straight ship that I PERSONALLY actually ship this is too good im afraid its gonna get canceled after s3#the morning show#tms#alex levy#bradley jackson#also i would genuinely marry laura SO FAST i dont care if shes a fictional character i have an engagement ring waiting
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i think the reason why a lot of 20-30 something gays are finding the experience of watching heartstopper so bittersweet is not that we look at these two boys and think "wow that could have been me" but rather because of the inevitability of the question "what if this series had existed 5 or 10 years ago?" its not like the world looked super different in 2016 or 2013 or 2010... but in terms of queer visibility, having an 11th grader google "am i gay" in a teen drama feels incredibly momentous. the closet is such a lonely place especially when you don't yet know that you're in it, and i can't even begin to imagine what that one little scene might do for someone who's in that very same situation and feeling like the loneliest little freak on the planet. not to mention the overwhelmingly positive reactions TO the show on social media and the fact that its a popular mainstream thing AND actually meant for a young audience
#its just....#i dont even WANT to think about it because i know it'll just make me sad#and id rather be happy for all the wee gay boys who get to see themselves in this show#but inevitably you start thinking back on your own experience and#like im actually struggling to come up with a single memorable film or tv show that featured positive gay representation#when i was their age#like i was 15 when brokebavk mountain came out in germany lmao and it wasnt even a big thing initially#i remember queer as folk being on tv late at night but i was obviously way too young for that#like those two names are synonymous with gay media for a reason#there just wasnt any other representation in the 00s#and happy healthy same sex romance? i mean... its still a rare thing even now#i just#ughhhh#its hard not to be like super emotional#also because its so. fucking. corny.#(complimentary)#and not to mention the fact that one of them is bi#there are lesbians#elle is trans#and lastly: good adaptations always make me super happy#i feel like representation wise books are always slightly ahead of the curve compared to the film and tv industry#and like... when it comes to diversity and variety not just in terms of characters but also subject matter.. but obviously their reach#is v limited compared to a goddamn netflix show that's launched in god knows how many countries at the same time#so like when a beautiful story like heartstopper manages to secure a production deal#i mean its just incredible#anyway. back to fucking crying
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not to talk spn on main once more but I'm seeing this bisexual Dean post floating around and every time I see it reblogged I wonder more and more if anyone on this website actually knows what Canon means
#damien.txt#like.... it has to be in the show for it to be canon guys#there is literally nothing in the show that puts Dean in the position of 'canon bisexual'#like we can say all we want about subtext and benny but it's not actually there!#and there was never any intent of fulfilling that! fucking almost 2 decades of this and CW is STILL queerbaiting you fools#also like i don't have a problem with 'dean is bi' posts like go off bestie if you like him bi then good for you#but the posts that are like 'dean is canon bi and if you don't admit it it's bi erasure! this is good representation!'#like.......... that's just false. like it's literally just not true.#but whatever i'm not spn on main and all this doesn't really matter#it's just funny to me i guess#spn
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ba/d buddy made me feel the way hear/tstopper made me feel, and i really couldn’t stop thinking about it ever since i’ve watched it.
#( out of character. )#no but seriously i think like ba/d buddy actually struck me more idk man#the whole series is on yt with subtitles and i was casually watching it lately when i had a moment off#the cutest shit ever#like for a bl series ?? never have i seen a series that defied stereotypes to this point#the chemistry was so good#enemies to lovers?? but it's done so well??#ALSO bff siblings and both of them are bi/pan ????#they rly said our bloodline ends with us#as they should their parents are not it#some of their friends are on thin ice also#it wasn't perfect but it was like. such a fun little show#if anyone has seen shoutout#no but i love that like. they said both siblings can be queer and in relationships with queer partners#the representation bro#i love it
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Hot take? A show with queer people in it from the beginning was never queerbaiting and— very literally and technically— never could. In the first episode, a gay man comes out to his family. And he doesn’t stop being gay after that; it’s a major plot point and part of his character going forward. You’ve had a married lesbian couple from the jump who are proud and unapologetic about their love for each other. The story has also portrayed several queer couples and stories in episodic plots, including featuring queer weddings.
Buck didn’t suddenly “become” bi. Queerness is not when straight people “turn” queer. He has been attracted to men the entire time; he has always been bi. Understanding yourself and your sexuality as a queer person is often so difficult under heteronormativity. Sometimes, it takes time.
Hell— Buck checking a guy out some time in season 3 or getting flustered by the idea he might like a guy, etc, etc, are not even examples “queerbaiting,” nevermind how the show already features queer stories.
I genuinely think some of y’all are just mad that he’s not sucking face with the man you want him to, and are being weirdly homophobic about it. “Buck kissing this man is kinda off-putting, lmao.” “Buck and his bf’s relationship is awkward. IDK, but it weirds me out.” “There’s something so cringe about Buck’s relationship—” “Who dates someone they haven’t been friends with for years first? It’s kinda creepy…” “I think their relationship is a weird mess. It’s not as meaningful as a slow burn.”
Life isn’t fanfiction and fanfiction tropes don’t make good writing. Most relationships start out with a “hey, I’m interested in you, let’s get to know each other.” You’re just transparently uncomfortable with two men expressing that interest in each other outside the arbitrary rules you’ve established to make a mlm relationship “legitimate” or “meaningful.”
[Fanfiction] tropes— from “there’s only one bed” to “we’re forced together, but fall in love anyway”— are responses to the sex-negativity and purity culture norms forced upon gender and sexual minorities. They provide a workaround for these norms but never a direct challenge. It’s like the Family Guy episode “Prick Up Your Ears,” where conservative Christian abstinence-only sex education leads to kids having ear sex. Ear sex is the workaround to the abstinence and purity rules they’d been taught, not the challenge. We still have stringent rules around who can touch whom and under what circumstances. Tropes reflect this. So, a trope like “there’s only one bed” provides the characters with a justification for their intimacy without directly challenging why it is taboo.
You’ve convinced yourself that shipping— and thus the tropes it employs— is more subversive than actual representation, and the people caught in the crossfire are actual queer people.
Also— for the love of fuck— stop comparing every mlm relationship to RW&RB.
#911 ABC#911 Fox#do you know how long it took me to understand#that my crushes on men were crushes#and not just ‘Wow. He’s neat. I really wanna be friends.’#‘Wow. I like his vibe and style. I wanna… be friends? Be— hold up.’#I thought I was asexual#‘Well. I have no interest in dating a girl. But I also just really wanna be really very good friends with guys. So I must be ace!’#No. Wrong. I was very mistaken#I also very much hate what RW&RB has encouraged in cis het ppl#evan buckley#tommy kinard
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Reasons to read Six of Crows
1. Actually good representation
- all the crows have ptsd of some sort that actually affect their actions
- religion also affects their actions (eg. Inej with her saints and unwilling to kill, Matthias with djel)
- Jesper and inej are darker skinned
- wylan is gay and jesper and Nina are bi
- wylan has dyslexia that he's really ashamed of because of his father(and when he told Kaz he(Kaz) literally just shrugged!!)
- Kaz is physically disabled (his leg) and needs to use a cane
2. Nina is canonically thick and curvy but is still described as beautiful and badass
3. Again with Nina
- she does eat more than the other crows and they don't judge her for it
- when she starts to eat less bc of parem her friends panic and try to get her to eat more
- and when she starts eating again they're so fucking happy
4. All the crows have their own horrible backstory and yet none of them have ever been in a toxic relationship
5. The boundaries that characters set are actually respected (eg. Kaz with his gloves and no-touch rule)
6. It's so funny ("My ghost won't associate with your ghost", "I'm going to get someone to burn my kruge for me / you could pay someone to pay someone to burn your kruge / I'll pay someone to pay someone to pay someone to burn my kruge / you know what the really big bosses do? They pay someone to pay someone...", "MAYBE I LIKED YOUR STUPID FACE" among other examples)
7. There are such impactful and beautiful quotes ("I would come for you", "I have been made to protect you" etc)
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9. To elaborate with the 'horrible backstory' thing
- Inej is a victim of sex trafficking
- Wylan was nearly murdered by his father's men for not being able to read
- Matthias was brainwashed from a young age to hate Grisha
- Nina (and other Grisha) were kidnapped and abused by Matthias and his fellow drüskelle
- Jesper's mum died when he was 7 years old
- Kaz's dad died when Kaz was 9 and left him and his older brother (Jordie) to sell the farm and go to Ketterdam. Jordie died from a plague a short time later and Kaz had to use Jordie's dead, plague-ridden body to swim to shore after being mistaken as dead and loaded onto the Reapers' Barge along with Jordie and then find a way to survive with no money and no family to go to
#its just an amazing story in general#it changed my life for the better#that may be a bit of an exaggeration but who cares#ill add to this when i remember other bits#six of crows#crooked kingdom#grishaverse#soc#ck#gv#kaz brekker#jesper fahey#inej ghafa#wylan van eck#nina zenik#matthias helvar#idkwhattoputhere123
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My colleague: morning, how're you doing?
Me, internally: Evan Buckley was kissed by a man who is a carbon copy of his best friend. He clearly realised that actually kissing men is kind of a thing for him and is looking forward to progressing and exploring gay things CANNONICALLY. I'm vibrating, giggling, completely distracted and don't know how long it will take to come down. I'm still processing everything and it's overwhelming. One of my fave characters is canonically bi, and came out in later life. This is the representation I've been begging for for YEARS. I don't know if I'll ever recover
Me, externally: yeah I'm good thanks.
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HBH Bi Representation∘—✧₊
there's some discourse going around about the bi representation of Missy and Malakai being "pointless" since their current main partners (who they very well may end up with) are the opposite sex and I just want to voice out my opinion just so that it exists online that I heavily disagree.
Though sexuality is obviously about sexual attraction, queerness is an identity that exists outside of one's relationships and especially with Malakai and how he was exploring his sexuality at the beginning, I saw myself in all the uncertainty, in all the chaos, in all his overdramatic spiraling, to say the least.
They are more than their partners and I personally never felt like I was being misrepresented just because of who they were currently with.
But also, it's so useless for me to track how many hetero-presenting relationships there are on this show when the biggest representation win for me is that this actually feels like a queer community. The HBH characters feel more than a sum of their parts, compared to other shows/film where even if there are a few really good representations of queer people, the main group as a whole doesn't necessarily feel like that queer community my younger self was seeking all their life.
In truth, there are so many ways these characters could be romantically linked which would make for really interesting dynamics. And to me, every single one has a chance of becoming a plausible canon scenario which makes Heartbreak High such a groundbreaking show. I have my ships and my OTPs but I don't see how I could ever lose when the group as a whole truly feels like a super warm and safe and gay af found family regardless of who ends up with who.
#heartbreak high#heartbreak high season 2#heartbreak high reboot#amerie wadia#malakai mitchell#missy beckett#quinni gallagher jones#darren rivers#ca$h piggott#harper mclean#anthony vaughn#spencer white#spider white#ant x harper#harper x ant#malakai x amerie#amerie x malakai#missy x spider#ant x spider#amerie x spider#ca$h x darren#malakai x rowan#darren x ca$h#amerie x harper#bi representation#queer#queer rep in media#queer community#found family#lgbtq
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AITA for not changing my OCs backstory?
Saw some recent posts about people fighting over RP characters so I thought I'd throw mine in.
I (F25) am in a RP server for peoples OCs. It's a small server for friends or friends-of-friends so everyone is either a friend or an aquaintence.
There's a channel specifically for people to post their OCs to see if anyone wants to RP with them. The posts are basically references with the characters name, appearance, backstory, etc. and a list of things the person wants to RP with them (smut, angst, medieval, coffee shop, roomates, etc.)
Anyways, I started RPing with two other people, Amy (F23) and Jenny (F25) recently and things were going good. We were doing a modern with magic type RP and all of our OCs met each other at a bar.
Eventually as the RP progressed my OC revealed that she thought she was a lesbian and then realized she was bi (they were all sitting at a table together commenting on other people in the bar and who they thought was cute).
Amy suddenly stopped responding to the RP so it was just me and Jenny, and I just figured that Amy was busy with college stuff so I didn't want to bug her about responding.
A few days later I get a DM from Jenny saying that Amy is REALLY uncomfortable with my OCs backstory. I'm of course confused and ask her why Amy didn't just message me. She told me Amy was really upset and didn't want to talk about it. I say "If she doesn't want to talk about it why is she telling you to tell me? If she has a problem she needs to tell me so I can fix it."
About 20 minutes later I get a message from Amy with a list of problems she has with my OC. The list said:
My OC is lesbophobic.
Your OC is saying that being lesbian is a phase (not at all what my OC's dialogue said during the scene, the word "phase" was never once used).
There's not enough lesbian rep in things and you're taking away even more.
You're replacing actual lesbian rep with an inferior straight character (yes, she used the word inferior).
She basically demanded that I change her backstory and make her a lesbian again, or AT LEAST make sure she ends up in a relationship with another woman.
I was pissed.
I replied back and said:
"Please go back and highlight the dialogue line where my OC stated that being a lesbian was a phase, because I searched the word "phase" in our channel and I couldn't find it. That word wasn't even used once during our RP, by any of us.
Also, there's nothing wrong with something being a "phase". People don't get one chance to pick a sexuality or gender and then get stuck with it for the rest of their life. Sometimes it takes people a while to figure themselves out. Sometimes things change.
My OCs sexuality is literally based on my own personal experiences. I thought I was straight, and then I thought I was a lesbian, and now I realize that I'm actually bi. I'm not lesbophobic for changing my mind, that's not what that word means.
If you want more lesbien rep then go make more lesbian characters. I'm not "taking away rep" because it was never there in the first place, and again, my OC is based on my OWN EXPERIENCES, and I as a person do not exist to provide representation. Why is lesbian rep more important than bi rep? I can name multiple, canon lesbian characters but I can only think of one character that canonically likes men and women.
I'm not replacing lesbian relationships with a straight relationship because even if she dated a man she would still be bi, not straight. It's fucking disgusting that you think a relationship or person is "inferior" because they're not the sexuality you want them to be. She's based on me, do you think I'm inferior for something completely out of my control?
I'm not changing shit about her backstory, especially not to coddle the feelings of biphobes."
She responded with a huge rant that I'm not going to post here but the TLDR is "You're lesbophobic and you hate lesbians and you're awful and dangerous and you don't care about good rep fuck you." and then blocked me.
I told Jenny what Amy had said and she said "Idk, it's not really a big deal to change it? It was a small part of her story and it made Amy uncomfortable :/"
So AITA for not changing it?
It IS a small, insignificant part of her story that wouldn't change anything if I removed it but for me it's the principle: I'm tired of bisexual characters (and people!) being treated as lesser or not as good as "real" LGBT+ people/relationships.
Also I'm planning on making comics with my OCs and I make sure that there's at least a few lesbian, gay, trans, etc. characters in each story so that EVERYONE gets rep. Which matters way more to me than "rep" that only like 15 people in a discord server will see.
What are these acronyms?
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im sorry but this shit pisses me off. i don’t care if it’s a joke. where’s the punchline. even in 2022 gays still do not have equal rep in shows. the fact that only in the last couple years have we gotten actually semi-decent queer rep shows how much queer media is still needed. a lot of people still don’t even know what the word “bisexual” means, much less terms like “asexual” or “aromantic” or “nonbinary”. whether you’d like to admit it or not, it matters that a show actually has a bi character and explicitly says the word bisexual— a popular show at that. ik some of you guys have forgotten that the rest of the world isnt as acquainted with queerness as your online lgbt friend group, but a show on a major streaming platform saying “bisexual people exist” is important. it needs to be said, and it needs to keep being said until people stop forgetting and erasing bi people.
and yeah, the line “masculine guys can be gay” might seem like a stupid obvious thing, but a lot of people don’t consider masc guys to be gay at all, just like they don’t expect lesbians to be fem. i’ve been told several times that i don’t “look gay” and that i must be confused because i should like “boy stuff” and dress masculine if i really liked girls. people need to be reminded that anyone can be gay, as ridiculous as it sounds. we need to be seen as more than a stereotype and im sick of you “edgy” gays shitting on every piece of queer media like it’s twilight.
the show that these tags are in response to isn’t even adult media. honestly it’s hardly even YA. this show is for kids and teens who are discovering who they are. growing up, i never had ANY sort of representation. i didn’t grow up thinking it was okay to like girls, or that i could be interested in people other than boys, or that i even had the option to not like boys at all. queer representation is not only important, but it’s crucial. straight people get to see themselves everywhere, and never as comedic relief or the butt of a joke. queer kids grow up thinking that what they are is humiliating, that they should be ashamed of being those people who get laughed and made fun of on tv (and irl). in 99% of media, gay and trans people have been a laughing stock. the most representation a queer could get a decade ago was a white cis fem (but not TOO fem) gay man who was only a side character, was never shown with a partner, and served primarily as a clown, like queerness is a circus and cishets are the audience.
so i don’t CARE if young queer media is cringe. i don’t CARE if you don’t like it or if you think it’s forced or stupid or pointless or even if it’s just for a corporation to profit off our existence. the point isn’t why it was made or how bad you think the writing is, the point is that it exists and that there are now young queer people who can finally see themselves, not as a joke but as real people, on screen and go, “that. that’s what i am.” and im elated for this younger generation to be able to say that when i couldn’t. so i don’t care if you’d rather just be called a faggot again like in the good ol days when we were dropping like flies and everyone hated us. if cringey tv shows and bad writing is the price for queer kids to understand themselves better and for cishet people to get a better understanding of queer people, then it’s a small price to pay. shut the fuck up and let queer media exist
#text post#long post#heartstopper#gay#lesbian#wlw#mlm#queer#this show is for young people#grow up#top posts
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Double standards regarding Hannigram and Clannibal.
I need to take this out of my chest because I thing is a HUGE problem within the fandom of Thomas Harris´ Hannibal universe.
I´m a die hard fan of both the movies and the books. I kinda liked the TV Show but was never my cup of tea, specially with the mischaracterization of Hannibal.
Ignoring the fact the Hannibal is a misandrist in the books, like, he really hates men and the only good personal experiences that he ever had came from his mother, sister, step-aunt and Clarice.
I didn´t really care that they made him pansexual/bi/whatever in the tv series, but the whole point of Hannibal in the books/movies is that he doesn´t psychological or physical abuse those he loves or those who he finds interesting/not rude, like Barney.
I found extremely disturbing Hannibal killing women like stepping on flies. He doesn´t kill ANY women in the books or movies, maximum he did was bitting off the cheek of a nurse and we don´t know if she was rude to him before, treated him bad or whatever. Not justifying the attack but the fact that he never killed any women in the original books.
Also... killing Abigail in front of Will was the cherry on top. He would NEVER kill a sister figure to him or someone that he is taking care off or deeply loves.
What Hannibal did to Will in the series is what domestic abusers to do to women, killing their kids to get revenge on them and to mentally hurt them for life. It was completely fucked up and out of character. And people say is "beautiful" because they are "murder husbands"??? like are we been serious?
And then other fans and the media saying that the end of the book of Hannibal could never work on TV or movies because is not "feminist" that Clarice chose to run away with the only man in the world appart from her own father who didn´t mentally abuse, objectify or mistreat her.
Like... what??? Hannibal NEVER hurt Clarice physically nor mentally. He tried to brainwash her to get Mischa back... but was not to hurt Clarice in the process. He didn´t want to cause any harm to her on purpose, yeah, what he did was wrong too but hopefully Clarice was tougher that he expected and she end up offering herself to him as a lover.
Like... you guys hate the ending of the book because at the end she willingly ends up with him and live a happy life together in Argentina... but love the ending where after years of physical and mental abuse towards Will, they both jump together and throw themselves off a cliff... ?????
Like, if Hannibal didn´t tortured Will and did the same he did to Clarice, I would have actually loved the series, but this aweful toxic and abusive gay represetation really needs to stop. You are romantizicing abuse and are deeply DEEPLY misogynistic.
Is the same shit over again that happened with Killing Stalking, where even the author had to come up and say that IT WAS NOT a dark romance webtoon but a thriller.
Like be for fucking real... Hannibal murdering women left and right, torturing Will, trying to kill him, imprisoned him, killed his sister/daughter substitute of Mischa and that´s better that him genuinely trying to help Clarice with her trauma, healing and stitching her wound, giving her a luxurious life in Argentina??? Come on...
So a murder and toxic gay representation can work on media but not a fucked up heterosexual couple running away from a society that really failed them...
The tv series would have worked better if they did the same in the books but with Will (they didn´t have Clarice rights anyway), both running away together to Argentina without Hannibal destroying him physical and mentally.
#hannibal the cannibal#hannibal fandom#clannibal#hannigram#hannibal lecter#hannibal nbc#hannibal books#hannibal x clarice#will x hannibal#thomas harris#red dragon#silence of the lambs
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