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satoshy12 · 7 months
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Like grandfather like grandson
Danny x Val Ra's al Ghul father of Alicia and Maddie Ex-LoA Maddie, who had good relationship with Ra. Danny and Jazz's very busy grandfather, Ra's al Ghul, pays a surprise visit to Amity Park, leaving Maddie Fenton both intrigued and happy. Jazz was happy to talk with her grandfather again; the last time they did was because she told him she didn't want to rule his cult.
Ra's was interested in his grandson; imagine his surprise to learn his descendant built his own group! And took care a problem he wanted to take care of.
Danny, even with his ghostly abilities, also inherits a part of his grandfather's legacy, he formed his own elite group. Drawing inspiration from the Assassins of the Assassin's Creed, Danny and his team don the iconic robes and hoods. And his relationship with Valerie Gray had deepened as their connection strengthened as they navigated the challenges while in battle. So they were dating again and much happier now too.
Together, they protect Earth from supernatural and extraterrestrial threats from the Zone and similar In a similar way, Black Ops do it, not knowing they were there to take it.
John Constantine most often uses them and pays them pretty well. Like most of the Justice League Dark.
+ Ra's had a lot of joy talking with his grandson about different ideas and how to lead them, and seeing old assassins who died serving him and their ghosts had joined the cult "okay Madeline" group of his grandson. For a group of only four humans, they were pretty effective too as he read the report his spies found about them. Jasmine didn't seem to fully want to join it, but it's good to see she is still as strong as before.
+ Maddie joined it and gave tips for it; it was like when she was a child and before she left. She didn't want to be his heir; her father wouldn't die anyway. She has no idea why he wants a Heir anyway.
++++ - So in a way, Talia and Damian are the replacements twice over, or even worse, three times over, for the position heir. - The other ones didn't want the heir position.
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bet-on-me-13 · 4 months
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Talia took a 20+ Year Undercover mission a while ago
So! Talia is the Daughter of Ra's Al Ghul, and has been alive and at his side for many years now. Decades even. She is well into her 100's, even though her physical Body looks like that of a 20 yr old.
And in all the years that she has lived, what's to say she didn't take a few years off as a vacation? Even Ra's must take a few years off every once in a while, leaving to spend time on some remote island he can relax on for once. So, one day in the Early 80's she decided to do the same.
But she wouldn't be completely relaxing, she would take the break to further the League's goals still. She decided to Dye her Hair, change her Name, get into an acceptable College, and study Lazarus Waters to their scientific limit. She decided to name if Ectoplasm, to avoid any unwanted attention.
And while there, she met a pair of men doing the exact same.
Jack and Vladimir were nice enough. Although their Research was more focused on Ghosts, or as she would call them, Pit Demons. They were convinced that Ectoplasm and Ghosts came from another Dimension, and if they could find a way to open a Dimension Gateway to this theoretical Ghost Zone, they could aquire Limitless Clean Energy (and maybe find a way to contain the Ghostly threat).
Over the years, Talia Maddie would fall for Jack. Eventually, even after she had completed her College Studies and Vlad had left contact with them, she decided to extend her Vacation to further study Ectoplasm with Jack. One thing led to another, and eventually she found herself pregnant. And then it happened again.
Jazzmine and Daniel were the cutest little babies. But she knew the danger they would be in if it was ever discovered that she was their Mother, so she trained them in everything she could so they could survive. She knew her time as Maddie Fenton was coming short, but she resolved to stay, at the very least until Jazz was an Adult.
She didn't account for Daniel becoming a Small Town Hero, but those were just the Trials of motherhood.
Then, the day came. She left a note on her bedside table explaining that she regretted what had to happen, and left in the middle of the night. It was better this way.
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The year right after she returned, her Father forced her to have a Child with his most prospective Heir. The Bat, he called himself. Oh he was Charming, there was no denying that, but unfortunately she was still working through her feelings about Jack.
She treated her resulting child poorly because of that, and that she regreted it deeply. She loved him, honestly she did, but it was hard to look at him and not remember Daniel. Still, she persevered.
The day she once again had to give up her son for his protection was the hardest of her life.
But it was unavoidable. The Coup that had taken her Father's life had also fractured the Organization, anyone could have taken their shot at her Son as the rightful Heir. She needed to protect him as she took care of the Traitors.
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Damian always knew he was the One True Heir. It was his defining character trait for his early years of life. Even though he had grown to be more than just that over recent years, he always felt like it was a key part of his identity.
Until now.
Because the BatComputer had just finished running a DNA Test on the Blood of a man who he had spotted on his Patrol the previous night.
A DNA Test that had come back, with results claiming that the man, who looked almost exactly like a younger male version of his Mother, was his Half Brother.
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Project R au except Danny is not the clone.
Instead Danny gets Ras Al Ghuls attention after overhearing that the baby in the tube was made from a bunch of "Robins/detectives" and a little of Phantom himself and looks the guy in the eye before using his intangibility to grab the baby-still not breaking eye contact- and saying, "Mine now." before disappearing.
Danny comes home and explains the situation to his sister and parents and they welcome the new baby into the family with open arms. When asked why they took dna from Danny, Jack immediately jumped in with, "Because we're Fentons!" As if that was all the reason needed.
Elsewhere Ras tells the bats about the clonenapping, conveniently leaving out the part about Phantom also being one of the babys dads. The bats go a little crazy trying to find out where thier baby is and why some no name villian (cause thats what they believe he is due to what little media coverage Amity Park has on him) wants with thier baby.
Then they learn about the ghost thing and then the research. At first they didn't believe it because they had dealt with ghosts before and they were nothing like that. But the more they looked the more they realized these weren't the kind of ghosts they were used to...
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bluerosefox · 4 months
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Mysterious Relations AU
Group Chat: [TwoHalfasMakeaWholeNERD]:
The(Better)Remix:
[Sent Imagine: it was a picture of a painting of two very wealthy adults stood with smiles as their hands were placed on a smiling child, with black hair and blue eyes, between them]
Lol, hey Template we sure you're a Fenton by blood? Cause you're looking very much like a Wayne clone tbh or something!
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TheOriginal: Firstly WTH THAT'S SO WEIRD. Secondly ELLIE did you sneak into the Wayne's place?! GET OUT BEFORE THEY SEE YOU! We don't need another Fruitloop on our case!
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An AU where Ellie travels to Gotham and is just hanging around in human form, got stared at by a lot of the older Gothamites, many of them commenting that she looks like a young female version of Bruce Wayne but with Martha Wayne favoring over Thomas, so being the curious gremlin she is she sneaks into the Wayne Manor (What, like it was hard?) and finds the Wayne family painting.
Ellie being Ellie snaps a picture with her phone and sends it to Danny, jokingly questioning his parentage.
She's so distracted by her messages to Danny she never noticed the elder gentleman standing behind her, ready to ask the young miss if she needed anything.
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dannyphantomiscool · 3 months
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I think something interesting in the damian&danny twins/danyal al ghul au that i don't see explored,,, basically ever, is how Danny heals.
I always see his personality made more similar to Damian's, which does make sense bc of his altered childhood. But i think it's far more interesting to keep it more canonincal.
He doesn't text w proper grammar bc he rejects the strict way he was raised. He makes puns and jokes and laughs freely because he was never allowed that when he was young. He freely admits to caring about his friends and family bc that is something he can have now.
I want to see a healed Danny. I want to see an Al Ghul that actually got to leave the league, got to heal and become normal.
And it'd add a really interesting aspect to his death, and Phantom. He escaped and he healed and then he still got fucked over and lost it all.
He's right back to having to fight constantly, his friends are weaknesses that can be exploited against him, and his parents are fighting him.
Danny directly and explicitly rejecting his upbringing and taking his life back. Eating nasty burger and playing doomed and having friends and crushes like a normal teenager.
And then losing it all.
(But better to be like his father than his mother.)
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aethertetsuya · 11 months
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DP x DC 💡 ♻️
Parent Swap
A Desiree Wish gone wrong (?) or maybe the kids had enough and decides to do something about their respective parents.
The Wayne kids had enough of Talia and Bruce relationship so they put them in a Parent Swap TV program. Brucie has no choice. Talia just wants to grant her habibi's birthday wish.
The Fentons are running a bit low on cash since they ended their GIW contracts. So when the idea of getting a "vacation/research" opportunity to Gotham appears, they take it. The catch is its a Parent Swap Program.
Let chaos begin.
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ourrechte-blog · 1 year
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A Funny Take on Danny being Damian's Brother
You've probably seen this. Danny Fenton is adopted by the Fentons and is actually the son of Bruce and Talia named Danyal, making him Damian's brother. Now here's the humorous take
In this universe, Damian does have a brother named Danyal. He has meta powers too. Just a lowkey version of Luffy's, so a punch that should logically pierce his chest? It just causes his back to stretch out and just hurt a lot. And due to cosmic coincidence, whenever he's angry, a random green light from the environment would hit his eyes, making them seem to glow
But he's not Danny Fenton. In fact, Danny Fenton isn't even from this universe
But Jack got the house sent to another universe. Again. So the Fentons decide this is vacation time until Jack fixes things. And while Danny's out, he runs into Damian. Or Talia
In any case, cue random friendly attack as a bonding exercise. Which Danny counters with a move identical to Danyal, leading them to believe he's Danyal. They don't believe his denials and think he's poorly pretending to not know them. His denials are especially hard to believe because they both have the same "scary eyes" and tankiness
The Fentons are not going to be amused by this random family trying to abduct their son and would insist on a DNA test just to clear things up. Except the DNA tests matches Danny with DC parent. Not willing to take things lying down, the Fentons run their own DNA and matches perfectly, to everyone's surprise. Then a third test matches Jack with Bruce 100% or Maddie with Talia, depending on who runs into who first
And the real Danyal? As soon as he hears about this, he's gonna want to smuggle himself to DP with the Fentons when all this is over. DC is kinda a shithole compared to DP. Besides, it’s not like the Fenton parents are observant enough to notice 2 versions of Danny if he gets caught anyway
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~Danny and Damian argue when Phantom accidentally (using the Fenton-bazooka) rips Ra's apart molecule by molecule.~
Danny: This killer club is yours by birthright, take it and rule!
Damian: No, it's yours by right of conquest, take it! My father won't be happy if I start killing again.
Danny: Will my parents jump for joy?!
Damian: Yes, tell them that you exterminated the creepy undead that lived on ectoplasm, and they will give you extra pocket money!
Danny: I will not rule this puddle! The Ghost Zone is enough for me!
Damian: ...annoying. Mum!
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brothebro · 1 year
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Meme compilation. Many thanks to my discord pals for providing me with meme prompts 💙
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ace-s-fav-dp-posts · 2 months
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So I've seen DPxDC stories where Danny is Damian's twin brother or just full blood sibling in general and not biologically a Fenton at all, where he's Bruce and Maddie's son, Talia and Jack's son, stories where he's either Bruce or Talia's kid with some other random person and was adopted by the Fentons.
Stories where either Jack or Maddie is Ra's kid and Danny (and Jazz) are thus Damian's maternal first cousins.
I've even seen a few stories where Danny was just literally Ra's son, either by blood or by adoption.
I know of one specific post where Danny is Dusan's son and Mara's older brother, but that's it.
I have yet to see a single prompt where either of Danny's parents are descended of either Dusan or Nyssa even though both of them are far more than old enough to be grandparents.
Hell, Dusan is calculated to be around 750 years old by some people, while Nyssa canonically had her bloodline wiped out by the Nazis, a bloodline that included a great grandson and she has a confirmed birth year of 1775 (so she'd be nearly 250 years old in modern day).
So the idea of Damian's first cousin being an adult pushing 50 with kids older than Damian himself would be completely logical (if you go ahead of sticking the show aged DP characters into the 2020s).
Though to be honest if we go this route I'd pick different Fenton Parents and generational displacement from Ra's depending on which of Ra's kids Danny and Jazz are descended from.
If they're descended from Dusan, then I'd pick Jack as being his son, and Mara's older half brother, who is older than her by like 46 years.
The Fenton's are actually aware of their connection to a quasi-immortal assassin, but Jack and Maddie do their best to keep their kids out of that life.
Which Dusan isn't supper accepting about. But he also only discovered Jack when he was already an adult, and if he wants to be invited to his grandkid's birthdays and be allowed to drop Mara off at the Fenton house to be watched he just kind of has to accept that his son and grandchildren aren't interested in the Al Ghul legacy.
While if it's Maddie who's descended from the Al Ghul bloodline, then I'd want her and Alicia to be descended from Nyssa's line, specifically Vasily Vasilevich, Nyssa's great grandson.
Nyssa thinks he's killed by the Nazi's like the rest of her descendants but because he's an infant someone actually manages to smuggle him away before he actually enters any camp. He eventually ends up smuggled all the way to the United States, where he's given a new name, and raised as an American by the family that took him as their own while fleeing from the Nazi's and smuggled him to the state's in the first place.
So Maddie and Alicia are both Nyssa's great great granddaughters, while Danny, Jazz, and Dani are Nyssa's great great great grandchildren. The Fenton's (and Walkers if we go ahead with making that Maddie and Alicia's maiden names), have no idea that they're descended from a weird eco terrorist assassin cult...
Until Jazz insists on the family doing one of those at home dna tests after Maddie casually dropped family lore about how her dad wasn't the biological child of her grandparents, and that they'd ended up taking him in when fleeing Europe from Nazi persecution, and no one knew who his birth parents were or if any of his biological family survived or not. Or even the name his biological parents gave him.
Jazz just thinks this is going to be a fun family history project where nothing weird will happen, unbeknownst to her Tim Drake has created backdoor access to every single one of those at home dna testing databases he can find, specifically looking for hits on the Al Ghul family tree.
That man might be old as fucking dirt, but Talia's existence (and backstory of being conceived at Woodstock with a random hippy lady) is proof that Ra's is more likely than not still producing swimmers and going around banging random women much to Tim's horror.
And Tim wants to know if any oopsie Al Ghuls pop out of the woodwork before Ra's does, at the very least to try and prevent any more from getting indoctrinated into the League of Assassins.
I just feel like either one of these would really hammer home that Ra's line really is comprised of largely unaging immortals (if they have access to a Lazarus pit and want to), who's outer age doesn't really reflect their actual age at all.
WIth Mara and Jack being half siblings but also like 40+ years apart in age, or Maddie being Nyssa's great great granddaughter but looking basically the same age.
Because DC's never really pushes that when it comes to Ra's. Sure all of his kids are adults, but all of them are also seem to be frozen between the ages of like 30 to 50 years old, with Ra's himself looking around 70-ish, and then all of his grandkids (who we get to see) are literal children.
So if you were to take a family picture of Ra's and the descendants (who matter and) we get to see in the comics, it would just look like a normal family portrait or family tree. The grandparent looks 20-30 years older then the Parents/Aunt/Uncle generation, who looks 20-30 years older than the child generation.
Like I just feel there should be more family line fuckery going on with the Al Ghul family than there is in canon.
Or hell you could make Jack or Maddie Talia's kid if you go with the really old canon of Talia also actually being a lot older but using the Lazarus Pits to stay physically young. I think she's like 150 in that continuity but using the pits to stay in her 30s or so.
Then you could just have Jazz or Danny show up and Damian introduce them to the Batfam as his niece and nephew, played best with Damian being around ten, but Danny and Jazz in their late teens or even early 20s.
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satoshy12 · 5 months
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Polycule Talia, Jack and Maddie
It all started when Damian chose Bruce over her, and Talia, while never admitting it, was massively depressed about it. Imagine her surprise as this tiny astronaut-dressed child tried to cheer her up, and that was how she met the rest of the Fenton's later.
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Don't ask how.
But somehow that led to Talia joining a polycule with Jack and Maddie.
It had been a Maddie's idea, and that was how Danny and Jasmine got a new mother.
Jack was like how her EX-BELOVED always was before public; but he really was a loving Himbo.
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Even Ra likes Jack much more than Bruce; this husband of his daughter didn't even once try to change her views.
Ra liked Maddie, Danny, and Jasmine too.
Maddie tried to kill him the moment she saw him the first moment, that alone shows she can protect each other and family.
Danny liked his sword mom, and Jazz liked to talk with her too.
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For. Talia: This was life; she had a good relationship, and they let her help her father, not like Bruce was against it.
So she was having a second home stay in Amity Park with her Mad Scientist husband and wife and step children.
She was teaching Danny how to read the stars and Jazz how to use a sword.
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elyon-rose-hydra · 2 months
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DC X DP Prompt #2
So what if Maddie Fenton was an Al Ghul.
Ra's always seen Madaline as his favorite (much like he does with Damian in Demon Twin AUs), but Maddie wants out and explore the world of Science further.
So as a young adult she fakes her death, she finds a cabin in the middle of the woods in Spittoon Arkansas.
Alicia took in Maddie and declared her, her sister.
Years later Ra's Al Ghul finds out his favorite daughter is alive, married, and has four children.
When he watches his son-in-law at first he doesn't like how loud the man is but is pround on how strong the man is and that he can fight and that he is protective of his family and really loves his daughter
He watches his eldest grandson who for some reason has red eyes. He is worried about his firery-temper though
He watches how smart his granddaughter is and how skilled she is with a bat
He watches how his grandson reminds him of a mellow Damian but can be feral. Ra's is also intrested in how when he gets angry his eyes glow pit green but brighter.
He watches his free spirit youngest daughter and can also can be a bit of a gremlin and eyes also glow green when angered.
Ra's doesn't like the man named Vlad and his plan to ruin his daughter's life by killing her husband, marrying her, and forcing his grandson to be his son. He will have to deal with him later.
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radiance1 · 10 months
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Ok new random au idea thing.
So, the basis of this au is that Danny isn't actually as ok as he could've been after the portal incident, yes, he still has ghost powers and yes, he can switch between the two but is core is unstable.
It's fully formed yet lacks some of the key features of a regular ghost core, one of them being wherein they pull ectoplasm from the surroundings to keep themselves going but Danny's does not.
So him going ghost has a timer.
His parents also find out his secret when he couldn't keep the ghost transformation for long, and they don't try to kill him or anything, but they do pull him down to their lab to figure out if there was any way to reverse what happened to him.
Which there wasn't. But they did find out something else.
Right under Danny's heart rested a fully formed core. Which is not something that should be possible, it makes him physically weaker, less aware of his surroundings and slow in his movements.
They blame it on how his core is actively pulling in the ectoplasm in his blood needed to keep him alive to sustain his ghost half probably, but even that is a stretch considering how his ghost half isn't all that stable either.
At least compared to other ghosts.
So, they made it mandatory that Danny take shots of ectoplasm into his bloodstream consistently so his core wouldn't begin to draw the ectoplasm from his own blood. And it worked, Danny no longer felt so fatigued and could stay in his ghost form for far longer than he could before.
But Vlad, unlike him. Didn't need to take any shots of ectoplasm or anything of the sort, he was proper, genuine halfa. With all the perks of being both human and ghost with none of the drawbacks of Danny.
Vlad wasn't obsessed with Maddie here, no. He hated the both of them, he blamed them for the accident he got into and losing all those years of his life withering away in a hospital. So when he found they had a son, a son who was basically a feeble, weaker version of him.
He decided to take away something like they took away from him.
Danny was left in a remote location for hours on end, his core starting suck away the ectoplasm in his bloodstream until barely anything was left, and then it started taking the blood.
He was barely even coherent when his parents finally found him, injecting him with a syringe of ectoplasm to keep him stable enough until they got back to their lab. Jack and Maddie then decided to dig out a big hole, single out the life-giving effects of ectoplasm until there was nothing but that and dump him in it.
They did have to cut open his chest, to give his core proper access to the pool. They pretended not to notice how barely any blood sprang from the cut.
When they finally placed him inside, two things happened.
Danny's core was energized, supercharged, even.
Such supercharged energy exploded.
His latent ice abilities expelled from his core, covering the lab and everything in it. Before the entirety of Amity Park as well and a good chunk of the surrounding forests. Vlad was relatively unaffected, his fire core melting through the ice easily until seeing how said ice creeped back up no matter how much he burned through it.
So he decided to just turn his back and leave, it wasn't any skin off of his back whatever happened. Jack and Maddie probably also died from all the frost so really it kinda just saved him the trouble.
Time went on, and the ice encased world of Amity Park did not. Years passed as the ice slowly spread, the ectoplasm from the (somehow still activated) portal leaking through to cover the ice covered town. The ice spread further out into the forest, absolutely consuming it along with everything in it, the mass amounts of ectoplasm helped formed multiple ghosts though.
It was many, many years later until life stepped into the city again.
One Ra's Al Ghul.
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minnesota-fats · 2 years
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Continuation from my other TWIN AU
So I like to think Danny is SUPER good at acting and pretending that he doesn’t realize when he actually started to see Jazz as a sister when she would hold him close when he woke up from nightmares (like Damien would do) and call him a little astronaut, or when he would call him baby brother and make him feel special and loved—until it was too late!
Or when that nerdy kid obsessed with tech became his best friend by being a social outcast with him.
Or when that edgy goth girl who moved to Amity Park near the same time he did became his second best friend when she decked that stupid blonde kid for taking Tucker’s glasses before Danny could.
Danny at the age of 13 decided that these people mattered to him yet could never replace his baby brother of a twin Damien. It was a 13 when it look like his mission would be ending soon. And it was at 13 when he decided that when the portal would be working to blow it up (make it look like an accident) and grab Jazz and take her with him back to Nanda Parbat with him.
And if she refused….
Danny would deal with that when he gets there, for now he just sits and waits, training in secret everyday.
Today was his 14th birthday. “happy birthday Damien” he said out loud when he woke up that morning.
He goes downstairs and finds Jazz making him pancakes. This was nice. He hoped Damien was having a good birthday, maybe he got to train with grandfather that morning? Maybe their mother got him a gift? A new weapon perhaps, maybe a pet? Damien always wanted a pet—so did Danny but Damien was the more responsible of the two of them.
Jazz hugged him when she saw him, she smiled and ran to the other room to get him his gift. Danny sat and waited for her to come back before he started to eat.
Her parents barged up from the lab saying they finished the portal…. Jazz snapped at them saying that it can wait because it’s Danny’s birthday. Danny tells her it’s fine and that he is actually excited to see the portal. Danny’s mission will finally be over… he could go home and see his brother again, this would be an amazing birthday he thought. The Fenton parents excitedly pulled/carried Danny and Jazz to watch them turn on the thing.
Danny look on and watched as they made a show of connecting the extension cords but after a small spark and an excess amount of energy nothing happened….
Jack and Maddie both bowed their heads in defeat before saying they were going to take a break from the portal. Danny internally cursed the fates! He begrudgingly walked away with Jazz in tow, she asked what he planned for the day, it is the last week before school after all! Danny smiled and told her that Sam and Tucker were coming over to hang out.
Sam and Tucker hear about the portal and want to take a look, Danny uses this as an excuse to go down and try and grab the blueprints/look at where the Fenton parents went wrong.
He goes in and comes out dead….
As soon as he is out he is surprising calm/WAY more calm than Sam and Tucker who are crying because their best friend just DIED!!!
Danny manages to get them to calm down and tells them that he is ok.
They go home and Danny goes to take a nap cuz that was a lot! Sure Ra’s would get on Danny’s case for being so stupid and then resting, but Danny thinks he desirves a rest. He just got shocked and brought back to life, it’s not the first time but still! Lazarus Water really takes a lot out of you…. The more Danny thinks about it he gets more and more confused…. Why wasn’t he experiencing Pit Rage? Why hadn’t he gone an a killing spree like how he did when he was dipped in the pit when he was younger…? Danny held his hand out in front of him. There were scars running up his arm like lightning from where he turned on the portal, they glowed a faint green in the dark.
Death Scars. A voice in the back of his head told him….
Something about his experience with the portal was different than when he was dipped into the pit back in Nanda Parbat…. Danny stood on wobbly legs at the dead on night and using the shadows like how he was trained stalked down to the basement, it was almost like he was invisible…. Wait…. Was he invisible???? Another weird thing to look into….
There in the lab Jack and Maddie were excitedly taking notes and running tests on the portal. Danny—using both his skills as an assassin and his new found invisibility—snuck down and watched them work. They may be eccentric but that didn’t mean they weren’t smart, they talked about theory’s and ideas for hours until they decided to go to bed. Danny watched and waited the whole time like how he was trained to do. When they finally went upstairs for the night, Danny slinked out of the shadows and took a look around.
As he was looking a green blob flew out of the open portal and began to mess with Danny’s hair. Danny jumped away to look at it and turned invisible, the blob mimics him and trills in excitement when Danny turns back and continued to mess with his hair. Danny looked at his reflection and was shocked that he didn’t find the usual image of Damien’s face looking at him but rather a white haired boy with Lazarus water in his eyes….
What is he?
What happened that made him turn into this rather than go mad like before?
…grandfather probably wouldn’t mind if he did his own research before coming home…. Maybe he could use this to his advantage.
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rainybyday · 1 year
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Thought Ramble Time!
(Also, this is, like, biology class time so unless you know what happens to a body when exposed to chemicals you might not get this. Good Luck! :D )
I suggest that those who do not what a biology lesson with a long post should leave to save themselves the headache this was. 
Ok so here’s the thing. The fandom likes to make the Lazarus Pit and Ectoplasm as one of the same things with the Pit being a corrupted version of Ectoplasm. The corruption of the ectoplasm is the reason why Jason is always in a Pit Rage or something of that sort. 
Let me lay this out. 
Danny is a Halfa who is both a human and a ghost. Jason, while different for everyone, will be a Liminal since that's the most common occurrences that people like to write him as. (No, I’m not saying he isn’t a ghost or halfa or anything like that, this is just an idea ramble from the au bin, ok?!)
Jason was dipped into the Pit/Ectoplasm while Danny was ripped apart and put back together in multiple secessions in seconds. 
What I am trying to say is how different they both are in means of creation and the different sub species there can be.
Ok so let's start with the easiest - Jason.
Jason was dipped once into the Pit which is ectoplasm. That means he is contaminated with ectoplasm in his body and rewriting his DNA from the exposer of a chemical that no living being should touch. Ectoplasm is for the dead but, while brain dead in a sense, he was very much alive. Think of how someone might get exposed to a nuclear bomb and having their body changing and dying from such occurrences. That right there is what is happening to Jason’s body. Jason is technically dying yet still very much alive, so the question is, how is Jason still alive?
Well, it might be because he is immune or has something in his body that is preventing that. If we look at the history of the Pit, only the al Ghul’s and a selective few are able to leave from the Pit alive while everyone else dies. I think it's because they have a gene or something rare in them, like being the one in a billion kind of rare that makes them immune/prevent them from dying from ectoplasm exposer. Thats like saying someone has type O blood or such. 
If that was the case, then Ra’s would also count as well from the millions of times he used the Pit yet still come out alive. 
However, exposer doesn’t mean no mutations. I think they both do have mutations that either affect the brain or nervous system (which can explain some of their actions honestly) because of the violent and instant exposer they both had. Such violent methods will have consequences on their bodies even if their bodies are keeping them from dying. 
Now what if someone is exposed to the ectoplasm but not skin to skin exposer? Well, that's how we have the Fenton’s. 
The Fenton’s are scientist who study ectoplasm and worked hard on their research of that area but based on how unsafe and lightly they seem to take from being exposed by ectoplasm, much less a house hazard of open chemicals, they are being exposed in a slower degree. 
Jason was out right exposed to ectoplasm right off the bat in a violent clash while the Fenton’s had years of exposers on them including Vlad Masters. They study the substances, while careful at first, are way more carefree in handling ectoplasm though the years to come. This gradual exposer of ectoplasm is what will mutate their bodies for years so that they, too, are immune to ectoplasm. Not naturally mind you, by a biochemical change of exposer that could have lasting effects on them such as change of eye color of disfiguring or brain damage. 
As of right now, Jason Todd, Ra’s al Ghul, Maddie and Jack Fenton are the Exposer Group. They are the people that got exposed by the ectoplasm/Pit and were either mutated or biochemically changed in a way. 
Now for the off springs. 
For both Ra’s and Maddie/Jack Fenton, they are already exposed and adapted to the ectoplasm, hence, the mutation in their bodies. This mutation is designed into their very DNA, which would also be passed down if given to an offspring. 
Namely Talia al Ghul, Damian al Ghul nee Wayne, Jazz Fenton and Danny Fenton. 
While Talia, Jazz and Danny are of direct offspring, Damian is an offspring of an exposed offspring. Please keep this in mind. 
Ok so since these four are offsprings of those who are exposed and consequently, had their bodies biochemical mutated, that means their bodies also have the mutation that is of the exposer of exoplasm. Originally, this can either mean they have the same mutation their parents have, but since having DNA from unnatural mutated donors is still a half on half chance (because a baby has half its DNA from mom and half from dad) that would mean that Talia would have half of Ra’s mutation while Jazz and Danny have a full mutation in their bodies (because both Maddie and Jack has it) with Damian inheriting 1/4 of that mutated DNA. 
Reality would show that mutation is a bad thing to have and for your offspring, however, it would seem that having the mutation might be a good thing since there is not many flaws, unless natural human flaws, are displayed by both the comics and the shows. 
This inherited mutation can explain some things like the four’s more intelligent minds or maybe immunity to some diseases. The mutations can be identical for all four or it can be different for each one. However, it has to show that Jazz and Danny will have the most mutation compared to Talia, and Talia compared to Damain. 
Originally, the four were going to be called the Inherited Mutated Group, but that's wrong since these four are continually getting exposed to ectoplasm as well. 
Danny and Jazz are self-explanatory if you look at the food they fight and the house they sleep in. This version of their house can explain that either the LOL is contaminated as well or that Talia and Damian are making constant trips to visit the Pit. Either way, a constant exposer of ectoplasm will enhance their mutation and potential affects to this as well. Their affects won’t be as harmful since they are all from the mutated line, meaning they are born to adapt to the mutation rather well, but that's doesn’t mean they won’t get a mutation that is at a disadvantage to them either.
Another thing to note is that both Damian and Talia were instantly exposed to ectoplasm as well, as in skin-to-skin exposer.
So as of now, Talia al Ghul, Damian al Ghul nee Wayne, Jazz Fenton and Danny Fenton are all part of the Mutated Group. 
Now to the last group which features Vlad Masters and Danny Fenton. 
While both are from two different lines, they both do end up in the same subgroup which is to be recreated with the ectoplasm in an instant creation exposer. 
When both Vlad and Danny were zapped by the Ghost Portal, they were ripped apart molecule by molecule and put back together forcefully before being ripped again and put back together. Again. In an endless cycle that was too fast for the human eye can see, yet lasted seconds for both of them.
Now here’s the things. 
Vlad was part of the exposed line who was recreated, which means his body was not made to take in ectoplasm but was forcefully adapted to do so. This would cause mutations to his body to be less efficient and more harmful on his persona since his body was original not meant for a reaction of ectoplasmic chemicals. 
Danny, on the other hand, was born to accept the mutation in his body unlike Vlad. So, when Danny got zapped, his body was far more adaptable, and if I was to go as far as to say, wanting the need of ectoplasm in his body since his body was born mutated. This would mean that his body is more accepting to the mutations and changes his body will undergo and at a faster rate (hence why Danny was able to gain his ghost powers faster than Vlad).
Ok, so now that I said this, Danny and Vlad are of the Recreation Group. 
And you would think that we are done but no, we are not. 
Danielle. Uggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. 
I- I was going to say she is more mutated and grown backwards or something like that but my brain hurts so I'm a stop. 
But yes, that's my biological mutation DNA brain ramble. 
So list time!
Exposer (Instant) - Jason and Ra’s al Ghul [Bodies are immune and exposed]
Exposer (Gradual) - Maddie and Jack Fenton / Vlad Masters [Bodies are mutated]
Mutated Line - Jazz and Danny Fenton / Talila al Ghul and Damian Wayne/al Ghul [Direct line of those exposed, DNA mutated]
Exposed Mutated Line (Gradual) - Jazz and Danny Fenton / Talila al Ghul and Damian Wayne/al Ghul [Continues exposer even when natural mutation / Enchanted mutation]
Exposed Mutated Line (Instant) - Talia al Ghul and Damian al Ghul nee Wayne [Mutated line that is violently exposed to chemical, hence, instant mutated change. 
Recreated Exposed Line (Gradual) - Vlad Masters [Recently mutated and recreation of biology]
Recreated Mutated Line - Danny Fenton [Mutated and recreation of biology]
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