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whetstonefires · 4 years

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Do you think the DC fandom maybe, Infantilizes Tim a little too much? Like for a rich kid character who's main trauma for a long time was a getting left home alone too much there's an oddly amount of meta abt how much how much his parents hurt him~ compared to, y'know the two poor characters who grew up with physically abusive dad's+druggie mom's, or the two that were raised assassin cult's, etc

…well, yeah, I do kind of think that? His whole schtick for so long was being too old for his age in ways that didn’t sacrifice his jokey, relatable teenager energies. It’s weird how little of that we see anymore, sometimes.

And then DC broke him and discarded him and he’s sort of awkwardly hanging around getting reimagined as more woobie with every fan generation. It is weird!

But tbh I do get it. And I think the reason his parents’ failure of him and his vulnerability get played up so much, and Jason and Steph’s sufferings (while used a lot for things like motivation and context) not dwelt on quite so much in the same lugubrious style, are kind of the same reason.

Which is that canon didn’t commit to it. Jason and Steph’s experiences with bad parenting were foregrounded and retconned more dramatically awful several times. (There’s some definite classism in how that was approached imo, and I’m never budging on being mad about DC retconning out Catherine being sick and then ignoring her forever in all Jason characterization because a drug death invalidates a person ig, great message during the opioid crisis guys.)

They engaged and coped with it–Steph (and Cass, our #1 canon batfam parental abuse victim) pretty directly, Jason a little less so because of the dubious and fluctuating canon status of most of the content more specific than ‘poverty, homelessness, theft, parental drugs and crime in there somewhere,’ so most of his parent issues have been focused on Bruce. He sure has dug into them tho. 😂 Rarely well or productively, thanks DC, but it’s explicitly part of his character, is my point.

Whereas upper-middle-class Tim was always treated by the narrative as fortunate and unharmed by his experiences with his parents. Even though they were clearly behaving badly in several ways, and Tim showed signs of being harmed by it.

Tim outside of immediate moments of frustration always was of the opinion he was Fine, and Very Fortunate Actually.

Therefore a huge chunk of the numerous everyone who’s got parent-related mental and emotional harm, but has struggled to have that validated and hasn’t responded with a lot of anger toward the parent, identifies with Tim. The only one who’s never really lashed out at his parents for fucking up with him. The one who still needs it explored, because canon ultimately didn’t.

[editing post to put in a readmore because lol it’s long, post otherwise unchanged]

(Dick obviously didn’t ever have any Issues with the Graysons, but he Angry Teenagered at Bruce so hard it changed Bruce’s characterization permanently, rip.)

The things Jason, Steph, and Cass have been through are dramatic, obvious, and fit stereotypes because that’s what they’re based on.

That’s important content to have, but because it’s right out there in your face even people who identify with it quite a lot are less likely to feel the need to work all the way through it again in fanworks. That part’s there. It’s text.

(Well actually Jason having been physically abused kind of wasn’t? I think? It was mostly assumed on the basis of stereotyping and Jason’s not caring about the man much even as he felt possessive of information about his death, which is valid. I don’t actually know what’s up with Willis now, Lobdell did some weird shit that lacked emotional resonance or staying power because he’s Lobdell and has no soul.

Cass’ wandering years are also ludicrously underdeveloped. But very very few comics fans or writers can personally relate to being amazing child warriors with no grasp of language living feral under bridges. That part of her life is consistently represented in terms of absences, in terms of its deviation from the norm and the deficits of normality it left her with, which is typical but unfortunate.)

The interesting things to do with these characters are often informed by the bad stuff in their childhoods, but there’s relatively rarely that much more to say about the fact that those things were bad. They know they’re bad. They’ve had a lot of on-panel rage about it, as discussed above. Steph and Cass both beat the shit out of their dads.

Jason is, in fandom especially, a sort of Platonic ideal of a kid who’s mad about his bad childhood and really bad at figuring out where to point that rage.

(Damian is a whole other kettle of fish, because he’s been lumbered by so many detailed retcons coming so fast no two people can seem to construct compatible models of what his early childhood was like, and even more because he’s still ‘a child’ enough that he’s necessarily in a different stage of processing than someone who’s officially only a few years older than him at this point, but still functionally 8 and also 20 years older, and whose parents are no longer in the picture to continue screwing up.

Also there’s no question that if he brings up an abusive thing the League did, he will be validated by his current environment about his realization that it was in fact bad. There’s a lot of fic on that theme! But it doesn’t have the same tone precisely because it is usually understood that that support will be there if he wants it. Realizing that his previous context contained things that were wrong keeps being made the focus of his arc.)

The badness of Tim’s childhood, on the other hand, was mainly in subtext. Even when we were clearly meant to understand Jack was fucking up, like when he canceled plans with Tim at the last minute to go on a date with Tim’s stepmother, or that infamous time he came to apologize for not being a great parent and got mad Tim was distracted by a crisis on TV so he flew into a rage and took the TV and smashed it and was like ‘that’ll teach you,’ it wasn’t leaned into.

The story didn’t treat Jack as a minor villain to be overcome but like a sort of environmental hazard of childhood, like homework, to be endured and coped with. Tim said things like ‘it’s fine’ and ‘at least he left the computer.’

(And like. It’s not about having a TV and computer in his room. It’s about not letting a child have boundaries, pointedly not respecting a child’s possessions, creating an emotionally insecure environment, punishing minor infractions in proportion to their momentary impact on your own ego, physically lashing out at a proxy for the child…)

Rather like Tom King later didn’t understand about the punching from Bruce, whoever did that story (probably Dixon? I don’t care enough to check) did not understand how serious a case of bad parenting that scene was. That is most definitely textbook abusive behavior. (It’s a hell of a lot more common abusive behavior than being a lame supervillain or shooting you when you screw up, and a lot more specific than ‘was a thug, might have hit me, dead now.’)

And Tim was never allowed to be mad at his parents about it. It was fine. He needed to be ignored so he had the freedom to be Robin. He deserved his dad being mad at him because he was keeping secrets. He complained too much, although objectively he did not.

The universe punished him for ‘complaining,’ more than once. We cut straight from him shunting aside his disappointment that his postcard from his parents was just to say they weren’t coming home yet after all with ‘if it will stop all the fights they’ve been having lately it’s more than fine’ to them getting kidnapped.

He agreed not to come on the rescue mission. His mom never made it home, and his dad was in a coma for a while. And then ultimately Jack died as a result of Tim’s decision to be Robin, immediately after finally deciding to accept it.

So Tim walks around feeling a huge burden of responsibility for his parents’ deaths, and completely unable to process any hurt they did him as real or valid, especially in comparison with the far more blatant awfulness other people have been through, and canon is clearly never going to address it. Or even acknowledge it properly.

Let me repeat that because it’s kind of my main point:

People are fixated on getting Tim’s emotional abuse validated because that’s an incredibly important step in recovering from emotional abuse, and it’s one canon consistently denied him.

How ‘bad’ things are ‘in comparison to’ problems other people have is a bad and unhealthy way to engage with trauma. Okay? That’s just a really harmful framework to apply to pain.

It’s also a way that both Tim and people with experiences similar to Tim’s are encouraged to engage with their own experiences, compounding the existing problems.

So. Not a form of relatable DC was ever actually aiming for when they tried so hard (and pretty effectively) to make him a relatable character as Robin, but an enduring one for a lot of fans.

So Tim’s childhood is a natural target for fanworks in a different way than the traumas that have been made explicit and taken seriously by the text. And then a lot of that got compounded by the way the introduction of Damian as Robin was handled, and the lack of resolution that got. And his current status as not quite having a place in the family anymore.

So between the level of projection encouraged by that context and how relatively difficult to access Tim’s Robin run has become ten years after the fact, this has led to a lot of fanworks on these themes that are based mostly on other fanworks, and stray further and further from the original content.

So at this point there’s an entire wing of Tim’s fandom wherein this side of him has expanded enormously, and he primarily exists to suffer, frequently in ways that 1) escalate to a point that is inarguably ‘valid’ and hard to dismiss and 2) set him up to rebound from it in whatever way the writer finds emotionally satisfying or useful–being ultimately cared for and reassured by people who value him (the most infantilizing option but like, popular for obvious reasons), or unveiling his brilliant scheme that was causing him to pretend to be passive in the face of mistreatment, or turning around and using his genius ninja skills to wrest power back from his abusers, or just laying down some sick burns about being treated fairly.

But not that many of the last one, because that’s mostly done with other batfam members.

Tim’s become a vehicle for a lot of vicarious coping that Steph and Jason just aren’t appropriate for, because they get angry and they get even. And those are stories that exist already, so there’s less scope for telling your own.

And because Jason’s reaction pattern is ultimately so masculine (i’ll make them all sorry! with my guns! blam blam!) while Tim’s is pretty gender-neutral, the demographics of fanfic mean that the bulk of the people using Tim vicariously in this manner are female-aligned, which has over time feminized this archetype of him a lot. Sometimes in ways I find really uncomfortable, like there’s a lot of forced pregnancy stuff which activates my panic buttons. x.x

But, ultimately, it’s fandom. People are going to do what they’re going to do, DC in their perpetual fail has hung Tim out to dry in narrative terms, and I’d rather the people who are using Tim for victimization narratives over the people who can’t dismiss or discredit him fast enough now that his position has been filled. 🤷‍♀️ What we gonna do? Fave’s in an awkward spot. DC hates us. This is the life in this comic book pit. XD

Also if you’re the same anon who left me a callout about op of that weird Steph post in my inbox, or if you aren’t @ that person, 1) I refuse to get involved so I’m not answering that ask 2) those aren’t even particularly dramatic fandom crimes? That’s pretty normal? That’s just…Caring Too Much About Ships And Disagreeing With Me.

Do I also feel those opinions are kinda bad? Yeah. But I disagree with everyone about something. Chill.

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comickergirl · 4 years

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A (Spoiler-Filled!) List of Good Things in Star Wars, Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker, in no particular order:

(Because there are good things, I swear.)

SOME DISCLAIMERS before we begin! 1.) I liked The Last Jedi quite a bit! I mention this because I need the internet to know which side of the Star Wars discourse I’m on. XD 2.) I went into this movie expecting the worst. 3.) It was not as bad as the internet is making it out to be, IMO. 4.) But there are in fact some things that I really, truly, Do Not Like. 5.) But this post is not about that! This post is about the stuff I enjoyed. SO...LET’S GO! For real this time:

I actually don’t mind the road-trip, MacGuffin hunt structure! In fact, I think the first...I’d say half? Third? of this movie is very, very solid. I like all the different environs and planets and, AND...

I like that the main trio is together! Griping and sniping and hugging like the tiny found family that they are.

LEIA IS REY’S MASTER!

All of the Leia stuff was really nice. I think it’s a little obvious that they’re working with limited footage, but I’m glad that she was included, and did not disappear or die off-screen between films. We get closure.

LANDO!

Wait, no, I’m getting ahead of myself: Rey and Poe bickering about the Flacon, Rey being like, ‘YOU CAN’T LIGHTSPEED SKIP THE FALCON!’ and Poe being like, ‘APPARENTLY YOU CAN!’

BUT THE FALCON IS ON FIRE, POE.

BB-8.

(That’s it, that’s the bullet point.)

Okay, are we at Lando, yet?

LANDO!

(Another disclaimer: This film...really swings for the fences, in terms of its more...fan-service-y bits. And I look forward to a decade of disagreeing with other Star Wars fans as to which ones were good, and which ones were flat-out dumb. I think the Lando bit is one of the more...I’ll say tame? bits of fanservice? So I liked it.)

Lando’s hologram watch was truly Peak Retro Tech, I dig it.

In isolation, Rey’s Force Lightning was Really Cool.

(I did not think, for one second, that Chewy was on board that ship. Had he been, the Force Lightning would have been Less Cool.)

Rey healing the worm!

Oh, wait, speaking of the worm, I liked Random Slug Guy on the Falcon!

But where did all the Porgs go?????

D-0! Or is it D-O? Either way, he’s cute! And, as the young folks would say, ‘a mood!’

“No thank you.”

“Sad.”

I think, of all the planets they visit, my favorite is Kijimi.

I just like rainy/snowy, mountainous Star Wars planets.

(See also: Eadu from Rogue One)

I also like that the team gets to wear matching parkas as they dodge Stormtroopers.

I don’t have particularly strong feelings about the reveal regarding Poe’s backstory (Spice Runner) but I like the banter that accompanies the reveal.

Also, Keri Russle! Or, rather: Zorii Bliss.

Her helmet is very, very cool.

You know what else is great about Kijimi?

BABU FRIK, THAT’S WHAT.

C-3PO’s ‘taking one last look at my friends’ was genuinely quite nice. Actually, all of the C-3PO stuff was pretty good. He’s a character that can get...kind of annoying, but I think he was handled well.

I love that Hux was the spy, and I love his reasoning.

‘I don’t care if you win, I just need Kylo to lose.’

Another mood, tbh.

Whatsherface, from Killing Eve, was Rey’s mom, which was kind of a surprise. Mostly in a, ‘Oh, hey, it’s whatsherface. Neat.’ kind of way.

Rey jumping out of the Star Destroyer and into the Falcon and Finn’s open arms: A+

Hmmmm, hmmm, what else, what else.

Oh! All of the ex-Stormtroopers/defectors! That’s a cool concept. Liked that.

Also their wooly horse things.

Okay, so we’re coming up on another fan-service-y bit, and as such, YMMV. But I, for one, loved that Leia had a secret lightsaber tucked away on that island, and that we got Young!Luke and Young!Leia training, even if they still haven’t quite mastered the CGI de-aging for Leia in particular.

(I love the Jedi Academy Trilogy Expanded Universe/Legends novels, and that sequence took me right back to reading those books in the library in middle school so YEP. That bit of nostalgia gets a thumbs-up from me!)

Also loved Rey in Luke’s X-Wing and helmet, even if it’s kind of ridiculous to think that the thing would still work, after being submerged underwater for...how long?

The Palpatine scenes were legitimately Creepy.

The Final Showdown goes on a little too long, I think, and I’d argue that this portion of the film...is where opinions will diverge most sharply. So, again, I’m just gonna focus on the stuff I liked.

Liked that everyone came!

“It’s not a navy, it’s just...people.”

BABU FRIK, BACK AGAIN!

For the five seconds he was a decent human being, Ben was...not awful.

I appreciate that he was thrown down a hole (in true Star Wars fashion!) so that Rey could Have Her Moment.

And,

Okay.

In isolation. ...What a moment it was.

Be with me.

Looking out beyond the devastation of the battle, seeing the expanse of stars, hearing the voices of Jedi past...

“I am all the Sith!”

“I am all the Jedi.”

TWO LIGHTSABERS, FORCE-LIGHTNING-ING PALPATINE’S FACE OFF.

YES. GOOD. YES.

...And then...other things...occur.

Boy. Do they. ....Occur.

....

............................

We’ll just jump right to the reunion of the main trio which was lovely.

ALL THE GROUP HUGS. ALL OF THEM.

I appreciate what they were trying to do in the final scene. I’ve seen some reactions on the interwebs and the consensus is, ‘that was dumb’ and I can understand that.

I feel like the Rey Skywalker thing might have landed better if certain plot points...were discarded, but. I didn’t hate it, like I hated some other stuff, so. I’ll give it...a half-thumbs-up.

And, as always, I loved the score. Particularly: Rey and Leia’s themes.

So there we go! Some positive stuff about TRoS! If we want my ‘official ranking’ regarding this film, I’d say it’s somewhere firmly in the middle. It’s got enough frustrating stuff in it that I can’t say I really loved it, BUT, it does not retroactively ruin the entire franchise for me, which was my deepest fear.

And if nothing else....we’ll always have The Mandalorian. XD

#hark! a text post!#star wars #star wars spoilers #episode IX spoilers #star wars: episode IX spoilers #tros spoilers #ros spoilers #star wars: the rise of skywalker spoilers #ALL THE SPOILER TAGS #long post

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unproduciblesmackdown · 3 years

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another prompt saga

April 8th: Talk about friendship. How important are friends to you? Do you find it hard to make and maintain friendships? Are your friends generally supportive? Is there anything about having friends that confuses you?

another big question for me to go on plenty of tangents lol

well i haven't often had friends Really, there's like, being amicable with classmates, being friends with people While We're At School Together, being friendly acquaintances lmfao, or like, the occasional "yeah ig we're sort of friends, not exactly very close tho" lol and then rarely where yeah i'd call someone a close friend, although naturally, it's not like i completely discount those other, less close relationships. and, even more so, not like overall i'm like "oh friendship? yeah that's pretty frivolous and unimportant and it's just something mildly entertaining vs the Real Shit & True Emotional Support & Love of your biological family and romantic soulmate" lol, Friends Are Important and it's entirely serious 2 me

also natch i Do find it hard to make and maintain friendships lol. goes back to like, preschool and being around a bunch of age peers regularly for the first time, where my "best friend" defaulted to this one person who sought out interacting with me when i was otherwise doing my own thing during preschool recess, and i was pretty enthused about getting invited to a bday party one kid invited a bunch of us to, because that was like, a Friend thing, and a fun social thing, and i was included.....that i Do remember just feeling like, socially, everyone else was playing a game i didn't know the rules to and so couldn't expect to participate and, furthermore, i ought to stay out of the way of whatever everyone else was doing, where i Did often choose to do stuff by myself, but it's like, you know, the way "autistic" is even used figuratively (which. i have a lot of disdain for) because it's like oh the defining thing really is that telltale "doesn't want to interact with other people or form relationships, probably because also they have no feelings / normal and intrinsic qualities of Humanity" but it's like, if you pay any attention or god forbid ask autistic people about their own experiences, sure everyone has their own varying social approach and anyone might not always be raring to be the center of the party or Not want to do their own thing, but it's not that oh all autistic people aren't interested in social connection, but that like even when you are a small child it's like, oh all these other kids are interacting in this way that isn't really my social style and that shuts me out, and/or attempting to interact with people results in this even subtle, quiet rejection / exclusion that can be picked up on. i wasn't making friends and was often keeping to myself / keeping my head down as it were, but it wasn't because i didn't want to have friends or socialize. my mom was insistent i was a Shy Child lmao and i'd always argue that i wasn't Really, without further explanation though lmao, but it's like, again that i felt that sort of emergent exclusion, and there wasn't any space to interact much on my terms at all, and like, yeah i often stayed quiet / didn't want to mingle with other kids / if i was in a Situation i wanted to know the How To of navigating it / what to expect

being friends with people at school was fine, except the drawbacks of stuff like "we're only interacting at school, rarely hanging out outside of that" & "someone in the same grade is in a diff class in elementary school so we just never see each other now" & "for some reason that 2nd grade teacher made a whole giant Example out of me and a friend, god forbid, not paying attention or whatever the fuck, so now i feel like we can't interact at all anymore" & "changing schools entirely between elementary / middle / college" & "not being in school" lmao similar to work friends too, we're At Work, might not see each other outside of that, might change jobs & stop seeing each other, & still overall rare, b/c the Preschool Experience never Really stopped imo, had different versions of it even into college and like, being at jobs with other adults lmao, socializing is still Like That, came up with the Je Ne Hate Quoi where like, people kind of just Know to exclude you / consider you an exception to whatever other social stuff is going on.

and then like, the difficulties even when socializing / interactions Are happening, where like, it's always funny like. i'm very Verbose / Chatty and very opinionated but like, this will surprise people, that i Talk actually and have a ton of takes, b/c i was keeping to myself / not sharing that with them and so it's like well, that must of course be the realest version of me, no way i was filtering myself, i just must have Not Wanted to talk, and/or had nothing to say & hence no thoughts or feelings i might wanna share lol, of course....and tbh like, it sure Can be true that i don't wanna talk lmao like. i wanna talk About Stuff that isn't really "personal" generally, which can be like, yeah i wanna talk about this book, or about birds, or about this trivia topic, or whatever, whereas idk so much how to do like small talk about your day or otherwise share Casual things about Yourself, like, idk, being aware my interests are things about Myself but also aware that it's Weird / wasn't the kind of stuff you were supposed to talk about, and i felt that things about my life were otherwise Not The Right Stuff, or too boring (never hanging out, not doing much except being at home reading / doing shit by myself or w/siblings) or too Unfun (able to pick up the sense that At Home Shittiness was a private matter lol......) and it'd be like, idk what to say, things about myself don't seem to fit..........but also it can be that i do not enjoy the Vibe of an interaction lmfaoooo like, i truly do not want to talk to you people. like that i can sometimes vibe with someone inebriated people better lmfao because then, idk, they have some sense of humor and can muster some enthusiasm for anything, but also i'm not really a fan of knowing that someone isn't sober lmfao like. ppl will be like "omg were you drunk" like no, that was just my personality, whereas i am not Heartened to know other ppl Will have to have been drunk to get on my level, for example, don't understand when people cannot muster being even a little silly. it's goofaround hours. but then you have like, being around a bunch of cishet people when they're drunk, and their humor is as nonexistent and boring as ever but they're even louder / more insistent about it, nightmare. and, yknow, just people talking and i'm like "i'm not interested in this at all, whether re: conversational Style or Subject, i would not want to participate" and times when it's like. i know if i was gonna chime in with what i Would say you would not be able to handle me here lmfaoooo so. i truly would prefer examining the wall and thinking about my own shit or texting with someone i do like talking with

but that yknow, in groups / conversations i would be at least someone interested in, i can still be like, idk, Hesitant To Talk b/c of all the instances you've been taught like oh you're socializing Wrong and everyone hated that, sorta like the post about making a comment about salsa that brings the gc to a halt and you're wondering how you fucked up and if salsa killed someone's parents and forgot or whatever, i've been Disheartened re: hanging out when it's like, well, nice to be included, but i'm a friendship third wheel here, not being included in the entire convo and nobody misses it, there's been instances where it's like, two people talking, i chime in, i am completely ignored multiple times, this is frustrating lmao. or there's been times i've tried to put myself out there in a way, like yeah sure i'll hang out with this group, but also i'm anxious and it's like, if people are doing homework i'm also bringing this thing i'm working on as this parallel task, only to find out down the line like people then regarded you as a joke or something b/c it was Rude or Wrong when you know, actually that was you reading some weird shit that didn't exist into the situation, and just like, idk it's wild how people will have like "graciously" declined to express something to your face, and you either can pick up on shit at the time but not be able to say anything which just reads to people like "oh they didn't notice this / that means you can push it a little further next time even" or like, figure out later that something that seemed positive or decent actually ft. people not liking you / not wanting to include you Yet Again, and as a bonus you're left with you know, having to always worry about if people Seemingly being amicable & accepting is actually them wishing you weren't there or solidifying some Interpretations of you that they're then gonna Talk About or Act On behind the scenes, like, beautiful thank you, always very touching, so glad you were so Considerate of someone's feelings and Nice about this where it just ends up being this whole letdown / feeling like even more of a rejection if there was this weird like stringing along lmao like. can allistic people be normal for five minutes

anyways and tied to that sort of, it's also like, simultaneously Cagey About Things and always worried about like, i could tell this person this thing and maybe it'd be Incorrect for the interaction and they won't care, whether because it's too mundane and boring a thing about you or because it's too #Real, i think i glimpsed something a month or so ago about like "do other autistic people have trouble where like, you can be friends with someone a long time but not get particular Close to them" or whatever lol, where like, well i have to hold everyone at arm's length and often Then Some because there's just matter of fact stuff about me that i nonetheless think i can't or shouldn't share, if i talked about something it might be out of the blue b/c i just was hardly confiding in people about it, or it's boring, or it's like, i don't actually feel like i'm close enough with this person that saying this isn't gonna be like "whoa overshare!! i just feel awkward & weird!" lmfao like. there were people i hung out with in person the year i lived out of my car and i did not mention this at all to them / kept it a secret b/c it's like, not out of like ohh this is a secret b/c No One Can Know, some people Could know lmao (shoutout to the person i Did confide in about these problems and who talked with me at what must've been like 3am in that timezone when i was like "well the rich people around here made sure to get cops to harass an unhoused person, e.g. me, would you believe it, it sucked" lmfao) it's that i knew idk, it would be pointless, they'd just feel weird about it and switch into that "for some reason, this is being Nice" where everyone will go into full Putting On A Front mode to be Polite like, that really sucks actually lmao could you Not. but it's like, idk, all this stuff where it's like "this thing about me / my life would be too Boring or too Awkward or Depressing or Etc Etc" turns out to be isolating / alienating b/c like, of course it would be. and idk nobody i ever made friends with in person i was Confiding in, not a ton of them re: me either, because you know. being cagey and wary, on top of like ohhh this person is Standoffish if they're hesitant to interact with people generally or do their own thing or i don't think they're socializing Right / have incorrectly inferred their feelings/motivations/intentions or whatever

and furthermore on that lmao it's also like, again, while i'm Verbose & Opinionated people will think i'm quiet & have no takes to provide because it's also like, even when it comes to stuff i sure feel i Could talk freely about, it's like, if i have a different opinion here will that just be a conversational Interruption ruining things for the real participants, probably nobody wants to hear me talk about this Subject, probably nobody wants to / would let me talk about it at much length without interrupting, even Online lmao i can be just going all out in terms of [how much i can talk about something] and while people can be Into that at that time it's like, people aren't into that beyond that one back and forth on one day, shoutout when people do enjoy the extensive discussing and/or have patience for it other times lol.

then supposing i Am talking to people lmao it's like, idk i'm an acquired taste or what have you, like, on top of the Talking A Ton it's like, the being opinionated and argumentative and sometimes pedantic or whatever on top of being irritable, could stand to be a bit more patient lmao, The Hater Friend to use the figure of speech lmao i have hardly been in a Group to be The [Any] Friend lol, also if my sense of humor doesn't fit it's like well how am i supposed to be silly, if being sometimes Enthused doesn't fit, again kinda an issue......have described myself as A Bit Much, humorously, but already not doing that as Much b/c it's like, i think i'm still too much like considering other people's opinions too "objective" here when like, first of all that's never accurate lmao, second of all i can easily forget that idk, i can at least in theory expect people to just regularly Like me and Enjoy interacting with me lol so. an acquired taste few can sample..........like hey even if other people don't vibe with me, it can just as much be the case that i'm not vibing with other people, don't worry lmao. and yknow, kinda parallel to Masking to seem acceptable in any casual social situation it's like, if i feel i'm suppressing my whole personality here / putting up a front / like i have to Get Through what should be a friendly interaction rather than be able to enjoy it myself, it's not exactly that rewarding. and plenty of times it's like, i like to be around people, but it can be strangers, i don't feel like "oh i wanna go out to eat / see a movie / go to this event, but if i can't get any friends to go, guess i can't!" like get out of the way i'm readily doing shit alone, it can even feel Better that way if otherwise it's like, now this occasion is about performing peak Agreeability for this other person/people, and like, not like i have ever been like "yes i have people i can readily ask to hang out and they'll be like Ya" anyways lol so. used to operating solo, where you can't be like "aha this is because this person has no Human Interest in Human Connection" when it's like. well it was never all up to me was it

well and so also it helped when i was 14 and able to be Online consistently, vs at home lmao. time for online friendship, which i don't think is like, oh that's not Real, like what sorry have you never known about people who have Remote friendships before, phones & letters & telegrams and also [nowadays when many ppl are Remote even if they usually lived near enough to hang out with] where it's like, you have this different format for socializing that can sure play out differently than Real Time, In Person interactions, and ever since i'll be posting mostly to myself lmfao but able to thusly talk about Interests and like, people will come along who want to talk more about it, then we do. i suppose also it can sure help that i'll draw (and Only draw, lol) for said interests, although tbh i think most of the time it's the extensive text posts that do it? really and great litmus test or whatever lmfao like, well already this person must not hate the verbosity. and then you can end up vibing with these people further, or not, but it's like, again, there's this chance for From The Start like, oh this person Likes that i have this niche interest, they like &/or don't mind talking A Lot about it lmao, vs in person introductions where that can sure happen but it's like, that's gonna be chance & spontaneous, whereas ppl might have the opportunity to Seek Out this interaction / content of yours......even online though, i'm still like, not as inclined to reach out or make the first interaction move or whatever lmao so. and then it's like, people make galaxy brain remarks like "ohh people who are very Online don't have friends, irl, they aren't Personable, irl," like yes congratulations i'm autistic and i don't have many In Person friends generally, sometimes maybe not any, don't really know where people think they'll land their argument here. like, follow it through, are you just calling people losers. is it "social media makes peopel Not social" like nobody is Doing Anything when they're online or everyone is embracing strangers and having heart to hearts every weekday morning with whoever is nearby if only they weren't on twitter? plus the fact that like, if i don't have access to people i interact with online, that doesn't like, force me to become neurotypical so that i then have a thriving in person social circle, it just means i'm more isolated? meanwhile, turns out it helps a lot if it's like, yeah i can Expect to interact with people

and then still like, all the time it might be like i still can feel Confused as it were about How To Talk To People lmfao like. there's not much "Just Be Yourself" when being yourself has meant filtering yourself, actually, and being v self conscious about trying (and often failing) to appeal to other people (which, then if you do succeed, it's like oops this person likes me but if i've been putting up a front the whole time, not super Validating) and not exactly a ton of practice getting to do Otherwise, and it can again be like. is this too boring to talk about, or just somewhat arbitrarily like "oh i'd better Not talk / say whatever" for no real reason lmfao, i Can just get like. Real Time Chatty as it were, but it's difficult actually lmfao like i need a lot of momentum, and it's easy for that to be Not the case.......and just like, again that it's easy to forget you don't have to be in "nobody wants to hear you talk" mode, or think like, okay, i can't just say anything, i have to say something Good, aka of interest or funny or whatever lmao but then it's like well i guess i Can just say anything. don't much know how to do that tho

(also, sidenote from "wtf is thinking being friends w/someone online is faker than when you're friends with someone sort of from being in the same building every weekday, what is the conclusion of 'what a loser geek whatever if you care about connecting Online who can't be popular Offline'" where it's always funny when someone is also like "wow even in person Fandom is, like social media, something that only people who suck at socializing Normally are into" lmfao like. not very relevant b/c nobody wants to really be in a broader fanbase rather than find particular kindred spirits through it, and who actually wants to go to comic con or whatever, sounds like a nightmare, but it's still such a faux analytical perspective lmfao like, again, first of all, what's the Conclusion to your argument here? and secondly honestly like. all versions of Small Talk are kinda gonna be bullshit, even amongst say, nt people, there's nothing Universal, and people can certainly be inconsiderate / preclude any genuine connection via what they might consider to be this neutral part of the ritual, and yknow, i find it kinda exhausting like it's peak Time To Mask and then i'm hardly in the mood to Really talk further, like yknow what. idk i'd be annoyed if someone demanded i Correctly Complete some sort of fandom reference by way of greeting, but i'm also annoyed when someone demands i Correctly Complete whatever maneuvers you're supposed to do with a rhetorical "how are you :)" lmfao like. you're a cringe nerd in the rigid social ritual of pleasantries fandom)

anyways and uhh yeah i also yknow, hashtag alana beck, it's like, glad to pretend Friendly Acquaintances makes sense, i guess it can, but it's great when it's like, oh i Don't have to only expect to be really peripheral in people's lives, or to only be friends with people i don't feel like i vibe with That much or also talk to that much about anything, when i can definitely feel like Yes this person is a Friend, no "are they actually closer to an acquaintance at this point" disclaimers needed, again, taking it back to the fact that friendship sure is Significant to me and when i have it that's v important thanks

so it's like uhhhh yeah difficult to make friends, don't have general appeal or whatever lol, ppl aren't on my wavelength or i'm not on theirs, hard to talk to people even though it's not because i don't/can't talk plenty lmfao.......and re: being Supportive it's like well, i don't really tell people In Person i'm autistic but naturally if you follow me Online here i am talking about it lol, and not like anyone who already knew me & was friends with me was like "oh nvm don't like interacting with you now" and i also gotta mention the like Handshake Lgbtq lifehack, where plenty of times it can be like, oh if we vibe on That wavelength it can be easier to befriend people, and/or that people will at least be more like, amicable / supportive based on Knowing you're handshake on that lol. b/c really it's like, i'd also like to just be allowed to talk and/or simply be around people even if we are not Personal Friends, aka that you can expect to be treated decently with some basic respect / consideration and like you're generally allowed to exist and be present and interact with people where you're not only guaranteed to Not be punished / excluded for it if someone's your individual friend and allows you to be here, so. once again it's like, can allistic ppl be normal for 5 min

#still behind on this naturally lmao but when it's now 1am and i've chosen to do a whole essay #it's like whew time to make dark dinner for now #30daysofautismacceptance #2021

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Felicity

Tv series (1998-2002)

Spoilers...

I’ve gradually been watching Felicity for the past few months & have completed watching the series. I gotta say it’s charming & oddly addictive.

At the beginning of the series Felicity (Keri Russell) is an extremely shy & introverted character. She’s adorable. We see her proudly graduating high school but also feeling some trepidation about it. Naturally.

She sees her high school crush, Ben Covington, (Scott Speedman) at their high school graduation & decides to just go & talk to him. She regretted not getting to know him before. So she fixes that. Her yearbook had some sort of printing issue so they gave it to her on graduation day. So she asks Ben to sign her yearbook.

Surprisingly he sits down & writes a very thoughtful message to her. It’s sweet & inspiring. She decides to follow him to New York & she gets into NYU.

In tv land one can get into school in just a couple months - ya know completely ignoring the hundreds of people waitlisted lol That made me chuckle when watching. No big deal though.

Felicity gets to school & realizes Ben was just a nice guy & wasn’t in love with her of course. So she gets a bit of a reality check.

She makes a few friends & lives in the biggest dorm room on the history of planet Earth!

My room in my old dorm was ‘big’ and it had 3 feet of space between the beds...much bigger than my sister’s dorm lol

Felicity is likeable because she’s sweet, smart, shy & confused & just trying to figure her life out. All she knew is she didn’t want med school as her parents kept trying to shove it down her throat.

Ben is a nice guy who struggles with feeling stupid sometimes (though is actually really smart). He struggled with some of his classes & lacks a clear path for his major.

Occasionally Ben has these lines & that message in the yearbook which made me stop & go ‘you’re a writer’. I kept thinking he was going to become a writer...then in season four he decides to be a doctor. Okay...it was an alright decision & I like his academic plot lines in season 4 so no real complaints there.

We meet Noel Crane (Scott Foley)who is super dreamy. He’s smart, nice, outspoken but sensitive. A straight laced student & Resident Advisor (RA) who becomes Felicity’s friend & has a crush on her.

Throughout the series that’s the love triangle. It was interesting but there was far too much emphasis on it. Often it overshadowed the more interesting storylines on the show, IMO.

Noel pines for Felicity & loses sight of his life then soon graduates without a plan then later develops depression. I thought that was a great storyline. Noel’s family history of depression was compelling & how the character described it was very well done.

Back then tv shows didn’t talk about mental illness but this was handled delicately.

Noel gets help & gets better. He gets his life back on track, pursuing his dream of graphic design. There’s a line where he gets teased for liking computers...ya know as only ‘nerds’ like that stuff 😂

Felicity’s roommate Meghan Rotundi (Amanda Foreman) is a bit of a goth/Wicca practitioner. Every other character wear clothes I assume that are from The Gap so Meghan looks very different in her black mesh clothes & dark makeup. Nice contrast but I feel like Meghan’s development was overlooked for the most part of the series. She’s very blunt, unapologetic, sometimes mean...but she also cares for others even though she’ll deny it.

In her romantic life there’s growth but not academically. It’s only in the end of the last season does she realize she wants to pursue psychiatry. I think there were some missed opportunities there.

Though I will say I like that her uptight parents accept her for her quirks & clothing choices.

Sean Blumberg (Greg Grunberg) ...I have mixed feelings about his character. He’s an ambitious inventor & sort-of businessman. He owns a loft where Ben sublets /shares with him. Sean’s nice, caring & excitable. He’s also several years older. Around 5 or 6yrs difference I think.

His age difference was brought up several times, as if it were supposed to be important. In my last year of school I lived with a woman who was 15 years older than me. So what? Not a big deal. I’m not sure why the show kept pointing it out.

The only issue with his age is that at one point he’s 27 and STILL has no steady job. None! He’s all-in with his inventions that make no money & his family isn’t rich so how does that work now? He has a loft in New York with zero income? One episode talked of him owing money but come on, get rid of the loft, downsize then get a job, even if part time. *sigh*.

At the start of the series I liked Sean but then they turned him into a pathetic leech who gets mad & throws tantrums easily. He became incredibly annoying.

When I was near the end of the series I started to think that Sean would actually make a good salesman. Imagine him trying to sell cars, just the right amount of pushy. Though they put an episode in that made him look like a buffoon when making a sales pitch. So I feel like the writers were confused or trying to sabotage his character because he still ends up leeching off his buddy Noel & they end up business partners. 🤷‍♀️

Sean & Meghan date & eventually marry. I thought they were cute together at first but not as long term. I feel like Meghan would murder him due to being sick of his shit.

Elena Tyler (Tangi Miller) becomes a good friend to Felicity. All the ladies care for each other a great deal. Elena is very intelligent & a hard worker. She had a few romances & nearly got married. But I’ll be honest I found her boring. Not sure why. I think the most interesting part of her character was that she chose not to marry her fiancé Tracy. I thought it was a very smart move. And I found her background with her mom interesting but they didn’t do much with that.

Richard Coad starts out as an annoying member of the dorm. He & Noel become friends then later gets befriended by the group. Richard is a neurotic, blunt talking mess. He’s somehow still kinda adorable though does have some rough spots. I really liked him up through season 3. Season 4 he was in much less and then the writers turned him into a racist moron. Even if he had those thoughts I feel like his character would be more subtle & not as rude due to his overly developed sense of self preservation. Plus he’s not stupid, just blunt & a bit disconnected.

He did apologize but still it felt just so...wrong. Out of character even.

In any case I think the writers should have made him a little more like Rob Benedict, the actor who played him. Rob’s loveable.

Javier Quintata (Ian Gomez) is the owner at the coffee shop Dean & Deluca. He’s the boss but becomes very close with everyone, especially Felicity. I really liked him at first. Eventually his personal favours become outlandish & his stories started to make my eyes roll.

He & his devoted husband break up over non-issues. Why? It added nothing to the plot. Javier also wants to pursue acting at NYU. He’s really not good so it came off as a dumb idea & all scenes in acting class become annoying. I feel like the writers didn’t know what to do with him. I’d have preferred if he pursued a different dream- one that made sense. Like maybe all the years working with coffee & pastries inspires him to want to be a chef? 🤷‍♀️

Felicity. Throughout the series she’s shy, gradually getting more of a backbone. She admits to loving art & wants to pursue it. Her parents constantly pull her down , try to talk her out if it, even bully & manipulate her. She is for the most part uncompromising. I loved that! She held her ground & from a person like her, who always kept the peace at the expense of her own happiness, that’s amazing.

We see her grow though she spends far too much time angst-ing over Ben & Noel. Often she seems tortured with very few moments of being free & having fun.

I loved how in season 4 she befriends fellow artist Owen. I feel like that was huge. I loved how they went to galleries together & talked about their art & life. It was refreshing. I love that Felicity’s honours art class was so important to her & everything around that plot.

I hated however, how she always put others first.

So...I have to mention Felicity’s haircut from Season 2. I didn’t find it that bad...but apparently Keri Russell got death threats from it. Complete insanity!

Though I do think as it was 1999 back then, people were more uptight with personal style. If she had dyed her hair pink instead people would have flipped out too.

I do think there were better hair styles to choose from though. I think if she had a cut her hair to chin length & straightened it it could look pretty & still have a big impact. Something like that.

But honestly it’s just hair. I had a horrible haircut one year in university but it grew out on a few months & was fine. No big deal....but I wasn’t on tv so no one cared I guess 🤷‍♀️

In the ‘series finale’ , Felicity abruptly chooses medicine. Why??? That uncompromising love for painting just gone....And back to medicine? I wanted her to be an artist!

Every artist has a day job to support them. Felicity was acting like she was going to starve because she couldn’t sell her paintings.

I wish they found her a day job she really liked to support herself. I wanted her to be all-in.

Or they could find her a middle ground. That internship at the architectural firm, she could have realized she wanted to be an architect or something. Something other than medicine.

I really like though that she chose herself finally. Then Ben follows her to school. That was perfect. I just wished she didn’t want to be a doctor. I feel like that goes against everything she wanted.

Overall a great series. I love how they approach mental health - Felicity’s too. She was getting therapy regularly. It was nice to see. Very healthy.

I like JJ Abrams’ work but I (like everyone else) question the last several episodes. Nonsensical & out of place.

Personally I think the show should have put less emphasis on the romantic relationships & drama & more on self discovery by all characters. That’s more interesting...then sprinkle in a few moments here and there. A few episodes on love etc each season. We didn’t need the constant longing looks & drama of Will they won’t they.

I know I’m in a minority when it comes to such things but I feel the media - tv & movies especially focus WAY too much on the romance.

Then of course people like me who are borderline Asexual (except when it comes to fictional characters lol), I find it exhausting to always be bombarded with romance from all angles. However, if Felicity (and other shows) just used it occasionally & not every single episode I wouldn’t mind.

It’s just hard to care about a show if it just feels like it’s only about relationships and not much about life. But that’s just me.

The storylines that had me intensely interested in this show were:

- Ben’s relationship with his dad

- Ben gaining self confidence & realizing he’s actually smart

- Noel’s graphic designs & career

- Noel’s mental health

- Meghan’s rebellious nature & wanting to see what happens when she gets over the need to rebel (though we didn’t see much of it).

- Felicity’s parents’ attitude - I wanted them to see that they were wrong & admit it to her (though they don’t) 😞

- Wanting to see Richard find something he was really interested in & good at (which never happened)

- Wanting Felicity to have fun! Random silliness or parties...they rarely partied or did weird outings to things like paintball or bowling. College is for doing a million things. I wish tv land would do more if this

- Wanting Felicity to stop making decisions because of her love interests

- Wanting Felicity to go on a summer trip or internship to Europe on her own (never happened)

- Wanting Felicity to choose art (also didn’t happen) & support herself with either a job she simply likes (dog waking, tutoring, retail etc) or something in the art field (art therapy, illustrator etc)

To me these should have been the priorities & add romance occasionally...

But overall the series was good. The acting was really good from everyone. Even minor characters had pretty good actors. So well done!

The actors are great in other projects too. Keri Russell was in The Americans, even the Rise of Skywalker. Never saw them but I heard great things. Personally I really liked her in Austenland, August Rush, Mission Impossible 3 (small but great role), and I LOVED her in the movie Waitress.

Definitely give the actors a watch in other projects, even if you have mixed feelings about them in Felicity. They’re all good.

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June 22: 1x03 Where No Man Has Gone Before

Today, the second pilot, aka Kirk fights his ex-boyfriend, the superhuman space mutant.

Whaaaaat TV screen by the chess set? That’s such a funny transition for me for some reason.

Spock thinks he can win lol. I love that he’s sassy from the start. And throwing shade at Sarek, which is how I choose to interpret “my ancestor married a human woman” when he very well knows it’s his dad.

“Materializer.”

For a moment, I thought Spock was of a lower rank but then I realized the pilot uniforms only showed three different ranks so who even knows.

I’m barely even paying attention to the plot, I’m too distracted by the outfits and the banter.

Are you certain you don’t know what irritation is, Mr. Spock????? Are you SURE?

THIS ELEVATOR SCENE IS STILL MY FAVORITE IN THE WHOLE SERIES. Kirk is so obviously in love with Spock already, like just the way he looks at him??? And Gary is bitter. Did you finish your GAME GUYS? How was the GAME?? You like that CHESS?

Lol at Kirk’s microphone. I love how different the pilot is and how much more obvious the differences are because it’s sci fi. (Their screen/windshield is also hilarious for some reason? It looks very fake.)

Sulu is head of astrophysics?? Really got a demotion there. This needs to be a thing in fic though, somehow.

Kirk is so brave. Gonna explore this weird space thing to save future space travelers.

New drinking game: take a shot every time there’s a random shot of Kirk looking beautiful.

My mother asked if Gary was hoping he could hold Kirk’s hand when the alien force field attacks and I said yes. Dig it in there Mr. Kirk.

Kirk and Spock flying the ship.

Sulu looking gorgeous.

Some gratuitous k/s arm grabbing.

Love how they show the ship has no warp by having it move really slowly across the screen. But actually--completely underrated problem that I forgot about it what with the whole Gary God Complex thing--if you have no warp capabilities you are stranded for real.

It took me a suuuuuper long time to figure out why most esper people died and two became supermutants. The force field targeted the most susceptible but was too much for most of them.

Also I love how the force field was just literally never explained. It just is. Nor was it explained that that other ship was, which Kirk seemed to think shouldn’t have been in deep space in the first place.

I can’t believe Dehner is telling a literal alien “this is how this thing is and there’s only one version of the thing and these are the limits.” Like??? He has all sorts of abilities you don’t know about? Why do you assume that things as they have been observed on Earth are the only way things can be, especially outside Earth? When you are talking to someone whose very existence would be impossible by your measure?

Looking at medbay, can’t help but feel that McCoy really spruced up the joint.

Gary rearranging himself just so for Jim’s entrance.

I legitimately don’t know what “this long hair stuff you like” is. I was born in 1988 so, that’s my excuse.

A STACK OF BOOKS WITH LEGS

IN LT. KIRK’S CLASS YOU THINK OR SINK.

Kirk is giving Gary those “I love you” eyes. They’re exes. Clearly.

I mean “I outlined her whole campaign for her”? First, putting unnecessary characters into a story because the short version is homosexual is ITSELF homosexual and second--that’s very gay on its face.

Kirk is clearly trying to be the Cool Ex (and, uh, boss) and Gary’s still bitter. “Friend Captain.”

No privacy on the Enterprise I see.

“The one you used to know,” Spock says, clearly jealous.

Love poem from 1996--so ancient.

Imo Spock is glad for this opportunity to shade Gary Mitchell openly. Finally, I can tell Jim my real thoughts: we should kill him.

Dr. Dehner is awfully enamored of this whole “new kind of human” thing given that she must have some knowledge of Earth history, including, you know, the horrifically deadly WWIII fought over exactly this idea but w/e.

Sulu bringing the math.

Spock saying “Jim” again. He definitely actually does this a lot? Maybe later he pulls himself back on purpose on account of Too Many Feelings.

D E L T A V E G A .

Forgot they poached that name. Should have kept it a mining planet. I wonder if it is supposed to be the same place and if Ambassador Spock was thinking about Gary while he was there.

“You’re talking about Gary!” This Kirk and Spock scene is really good too. Just about as good as the elevator scene. I literally cannot read this through anything other than the “ex and future boyfriend” lens and it makes it so much better. (Not that it’s not a good story on its face because it is. But just like the additional layers??)

“Our task: maroon my ex-boyfriend on this abandoned planet.” They’ve known each other 15 years.

Kirk and Spock taking Gary down.

That is 100% a drawing taken from the cover of a 50s sci fi novel.

Spock is so ridiculously, comically armed. Pacifist who? They keep on saying he doesn’t have feelings and yet ALL I see are feelings. Arming himself to the teeth for Jim. Clearly bitter about Jim’s feelings for Gary. Ready to thrown down all the time.

RIP Kelso. Good thing he got that commendation.

“Command and compassion is a fool’s mixture.”

“Don’t wake up Spock until I’m gone or he’ll follow me.” True.

Just Jim and his ridiculous weapon now, off to ruin Gary’s date.

Kirk and Spock would love all these flowers.

“You were a psychiatrist once--ten minutes ago.”

“Did you hear him joke about compassion?” I know the powers corrupted Gary but...did they do all the corrupting? Or did they just allow him to say some stuff he really means?

That “phaser rifle” looks like a supersoaker. (Mom: it probably is.)

Gary claims to know Jim so well but he doesn’t even know his middle name.

He’s so dramatic. SO DRAMATIC. Calling Jim “James” all the time; clearly his personal name for him when they were together. Whereas Jim continues to call him by his last name, which is funny.

And then Spock sees Jim is about to get sad and makes sure to come right over. “I felt for him too,” he admits, reluctantly.

It’s weird how much more dated this ep looks imo. Like I strongly maintain that even on the basis of style TOS ages very well (better than TNG which is 90s to the hilt), but this one looked very...50s/60s sci fi. Not in a bad way, just in a very obvious way. I feel like even the Enterprise looks a lot different after the pilot, in ways I can’t really explain or describe or pinpoint. It’s just subtly.... more unique. More real.

Mom and I were discussing where this fits in the timeline. She thinks early 5 year mission, which is what I’ve always assumed...but I’m bothered by how 99% of the crew is different. So now I’m thinking, like, pre-5 year mission? Maybe like a short mission? This is Kirk’s first command, maybe they sent him out for like a year first. It doesn’t explain how Gary and Spock have “worked together for years” but Dehner could have been wrong about that, or she could have meant they both have 15 years + in Starfleet.

The AOSverse should have rebooted Mitchell instead of Khan and that’s all I’m saying about that but it’s true.

I have always assumed Gary is First Officer in this ep but I don’t remember it actually being mentioned and now I’m wondering if we’ve all just collectively made that up.

Next up is the absolute classic The Naked Time. Maybe I’ll find an opportunity to watch it in less than a week’s time?

#star trek tos #the year 2020 #2020: fandom thoughts #2020: star trek

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Top 28 Korean Drama Words & Phrases for K-Drama Fans 1. 장난해 (jangnanhae) – Are you kidding me?

This expression could be a statement or a sarcastic question. This is often used among friends of the same age or to someone younger. This means ‘are you kidding or ‘are you kidding me?’

In Korean dramas, you’ll never hear this being said to someone older or someone holding a higher position than the speaker unless the person means to be rude.

2. 혹시 (hoksi) – By any chance

This word is used at the beginning of a statement or a question where a person is having doubts about a particular thing. The word 혹시 (hoksi) means ‘by any chance’ or ‘maybe.’

3. 콜 (kol) – Call/Deal

This is an expression Koreans consider as Konglish. This means ‘call’ or ‘deal’ and is used when you are up for the challenge or when you are agreeing on something.

4. 뻥치지마 (ppeongchijima) – Don’t lie

This expression is used when the person you are talking to seems to be lying. It came from 뻥을 치다 (ppeongeul chida) which means ‘tell a lie.’ 지마 (jima) is from the polite expression 지 마세요 (ji maseyo) which usually denotes “do not.”

5. 오해 하지마 (ohae hajima) – Don’t misunderstand

We usually hear this phrase in romantic comedies or romance dramas. A person says this when he or she wants to hide his or her true feelings or intentions. But this phrase can generally be used when you don’t want others to misunderstand or misinterpret you.

The word 오해 means ‘misunderstanding.’ The word 하지마 (hajima) from the polite expression 하지 마세요 (haji maseyo) means ‘do not.’ If you want to sound polite then you may say 오해 하지 마세요 (ohae haji maseyo).

6. 이렇게 (ireoke) – Like this?

이렇게(ireoke) is a phrase that could be used to ask someone how to do something or instruct someone to perform something in a certain way depending on the context. This phrase means literally ‘like this’ although the nuance can be ‘what should I do?’

7. 아싸 (assa) – Oh yeah

This expression can be used in many different situations. It is used when a person just got something he or she wants, won the jackpot, or when a person feels lucky.

8. 그럼 그럼 (geureom geureom) – Sure, sure

In dramas, we often hear this when the character is agreeing to another character’s ideas and opinion. It means sure or of course. And sometimes, it can also be used at the beginning of a sentence that indicates condition. It can be used to mean if so, and then.

9. 잠깐만 (jamkkanman) – Wait for awhile

This phrase is usually used when you want another person to wait for you. It literally means ‘for awhile’ or ‘wait for a while.’ You can add 요 (yo) to it to be polite then that would be 잠깐만요 (jamkkanmanyo).

Another variation of this expression is 잠시만요 (jamsimanyo).

10. 글쎄요 (geulsseyo) – Well, I don’t know

This is an expression we commonly hear in dramas when a character is being asked for an opinion, idea or an answer and he or she doesn’t know what answer to give or they want to have some time to think. This expression can mean ‘I don’t know,’ ‘well,’ or ‘let me see.’

11. 어쩔 건데 (ojjeol geonde) – What are you going to do

어쩔 건데 (ojjeol geonde) means ‘what are you going to do?’ Again, this may only be used towards a person really close to you or someone of your age and to a person younger than you. It would sound rude and impolite when used to a stranger and to an older person.

12. 뭘 봐요 (mwol bwayo) – What are you looking at

This question is usually used when a person is looking at you in a strange way.

In dramas, you would usually hear this question among characters who have the same age or is addressed to someone younger. More often than not using 뭘 봐요 (mwol bwayo), although it has 요 (yo), it could be disrespectful when used in the wrong tone. This means what ‘are you looking at’ or ‘why are you looking at me.’

13. 무슨 소리야 이게 (museun soriya ige) – What is this sound

This question can be heard in dramas when the characters hear some strange sound or they hear a sudden noise. 무슨 (museun) is another form of 뭐 (mwo) and 무엇 (mueot) that means ‘what.’ The word 소리 (sori) means ‘sound’ and 이게 (ige) means ‘this.’

So, when you hear a strange sound and you want to know what it is you may ask 무슨 소리야 이게 (museun soriya ige).

14. 어떻게 (eotteoke) – how?

This is a common expression you hear in Korean dramas which is expressed when a person doesn’t know how to do something. Sometimes, it is also used to express empathy to another person.

15. 하지마 (hajima) – Don’t do that

This phrases consists of the verb 하다 (hada | to do) + 지마 (jima | command to not do something). 하다 (hada) + 지마 (jima) = 하지마 (hajima). It is a shortened version of 하지 마세요 (haji maseyo).

This phrase is heard in dramas a lot, along with 가지마 (gajima | don’t go). It is often said in a pleading tone by whichever character is getting dumped in that particular episode.

16. 하지말라고 (hajimallago) – I said ‘don’t do that’

If the other person doesn’t respond to the speaker’s ‘하지마’ (hajima), then he or she will keep teasing the speaker. Then the next line out of the speaker’s mouth is often ‘하지말라고’ (hajimallago).

The 라고 (rago) ending is one of the many ways to use reported (indirect) speech in Korean (along with 다고 (dago), 자고 (jago), and 냐고 (nyago)). Using these endings is a little bit tricky and requires some study, so just learn this phrase for now.

17. 거짓말이야 (geojinmariya) – It’s a lie

Often part of the drama plot will involve somebody lying, and eventually being found out. The word 거짓말 (geojinmal) means lie. 이야 (iya) is the standard informal ending for nouns.

18. 거짓말 하지마 (geojinmal hajima) – Don’t lie

Combining the word ‘lie’ with the phrase ‘don’t do’ results in 거짓말 하지마 (geojinmal hajima). This expression is also very common in dramas.

19. 죽을래? (jugeullae) – Do you want to die?

Often this is said when somebody is really annoying the speaker. The ending -을래(요) (eullae(yo)) means ‘to want’ and is often used as a question ‘do you want?’

In this phrase, it is added to the end of the verb 죽다 (jukda | to die). However, you can also use this ending in other situations such as 뭐 먹을래요? (mwo meogeullaeyo | ‘What do you want to eat?’).

20. 나 먼저 갈게 (na meonjeo galge) – I will leave first

Often in dramas, somebody will have to meet at a café with somebody they dislike. Usually, this person is an evil mom trying to bribe her in an attempt to stop her from seeing her son.

If one person is leaving first, then in informal situations he or she will sometimes say 나 먼저 가 (na meonjeo ga) or 나 먼저 갈게 (na meonjeo galge), both of which mean ‘I will leave first’.

Read about how to use this phrase properly here.

21. 그래? / 진짜? / 정말? (geurae / jinjja / jeongmal) – Really?

When somebody finds out some exciting gossip, then he or she will almost certainly say one of these three words.

All of these words mean ‘really?’ in English. They are all used with about the same regularity as the next so learn them all and use them to sound more natural. You might also hear them with a 요 (yo) at the end, such as 그래요 (geuraeyo), 진짜요 (jinjjayo), and 정말요 (jeongmallyo).

22. 세상에! (sesange) – What in the world!?

This phrase is used to show disbelief. It is often used by the character playing the evil old man who is surprised that he hasn’t been shown the proper respect by the main character (despite his repeated attempts to ruin said character’s life).

23. 안돼 (andwae) – It can’t be (it isn’t allowed)

When used in normal Korean, 안 돼(요) (an dwae(yo)) means that something is not allowed.

For example, you could say 수영하면 안 돼요 (suyeonghamyeon an dwaeyo) ‘Swimming is not allowed’. However, in dramas, it is often said by the female character (speaking to herself while crying) just after being dumped. She is literally saying ‘he is not allowed to leave me’ as she can’t believe that she got dumped.

24. 사과해 / 사과하세요 (sagwahae / sagwahaseyo) – Apologize!

In dramas, people are constantly asking each other to apologize for trifling things. The other person then refuses to apologize for those things, leading to the two people ending the episode apart.

The verb ‘to apologize’ is 사과하다 (sagwahada). The ending -세요 (seyo) in this context shows that you are asking somebody to do something. The fact that the word is a homonym for the Korean word for ‘apple’ hasn’t been lost on the cheesy Korean scriptwriters who use this terrible pun on a regular basis (for example, in 꽃보다남자 (kkotbodanamja)).

25. 너 미쳤어? (neo michyeosseo) – Are you crazy?

From the verb 미치다 (michida | to be crazy), this phrase is used on a regular basis in dramas, As this is one of the more rude Korean drama phrases that you will hear, be careful in real life as people will find you very rude if you say this phrase to them.

26. 미친놈 (michinnom) – Crazy guy

Often said under someone’s breath, this word is made up of 미친 (michin | crazy) and 놈 (nom) which means ‘person’. However, it has negative connotations. It can be used with other adjectives such as ‘나쁜놈’ (nappeunnom) too.

27. 오빠 (oppa) – Older brother

Watching dramas is a really great way to get the hang of the Korean pronouns and their proper usage. Instead of the word ‘you’, Koreans use a variety of different words based on people’s position in society. The most common are:

한국어 (Korean) Romanization English Meaning

오빠 oppa a slightly older male who you are close to (used by females)

형 hyeong a slightly older male who you are close to (used by males)

누나 nuna a slightly older female who you are close to (used by males)

언니 eonni a slightly older female who you are close to (used by females)

이모 imo a middle aged women (lit. – aunt) who you are slightly close to (for example the shopkeeper in a shop that you frequently visit)

아줌마 ajumma a middle aged women (not as close to you as an 이모)

아저씨 ajeossi a middle aged man

선배 seonbae a school friend from a year that is above you

후배 hubae a school friend from a year that is below you

28. 사 줘 (sajwo) – Buy this for me

Often used by the whiny rich girl who is a love rival of the main female character. 줘 (jwo) comes from the verb 주다 (juda | to give), and is the informal way of saying 주세요 (juseyo). If you use this expression, be sure to use your most whiny voice possible.

#korean #KDrama #KWorl

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bllover4lif · 5 years

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About Me Tag

Special thanks to @chiefofpigs for tagging me!!

The rules are:

1. Tag the person who tagged you

2. Answer the questions

3. Tag 10 people

• How tall are you?

Last time I checked, 5′5 or 5′6.

And yet, I haven’t grown an inch. 😭😭😭😭😭

• What color and style is your hair?

My hair is a very very VERY dark brown hair, to the point where it looks completely black. For almost a year my hair has been in comb curls but now it’s in 2 stranded twists. Also when my hair is twisted, like it is now, if you look real close, you can see my natural brown highlights.

• What color are your eyes?

My eyes are the same color as my hair, brown but almost black looking.

• Do you wear glasses?

Yes. I’ve had cataracts since I was young, but was never confirmed until the 9th and 10th grade. I had the surgery done on the left one last year in February. And the other one will be done this summer!! Yes, that still means I need glasses.

• Do you wear braces?

No, and thank god I don’t. I don’t want to.

• What’s your fashion sense?

Um... (Laughs shyly) believe it or not, I’m not really sure. I have no real style.

It used to be matching colors. Now it’s more of a dark color scheme, with the few light colored clothes. I almost always wear shorts, pants, or capris. Also, I always wear tennis shoes. I never wear skirts, dresses or anything fancy unless its a special occasion (i.e. dresses for church or a wedding). I hate open-toed shoes, with the exception of wedges and gladiator sandals. And don’t even get me started on makeup. Mainly because I don’t know how to put it on. Also with my eyes, I’d be afraid of making it worse. I do have purses and cute bags though.

(Also, if you were to ask my mom, she would say I’m from ‘Grannyville’ due to not wanting to dress like how most other black girls my age I’ve seen walking around. LMFAO 😂😂😂😂😂)

• Full name?

Jude Asia Morgan

• When were you born?

December 23rd, 1999

And yet, I still feel so old. I wonder why?

• Where are you from and where do you live now?

I was born in Kenner, Louisiana. However, the majority of my family was born in New Orleans, LA. Currently, I live in Baton Rouge, LA.

• What school do you go to?

I am a freshman (about to be sophomore) at LSU (Louisiana State University),

• What kind of student are you?

I am a very quiet student who keeps to herself but warms up over time. For some reason, I fear people think I always look angry. I’m also the biggest procrastinator I know. And my mom always tells me not to do that. I stay up until 3 am or even later, even though 3 is my limit. And I always study for tests at the last minute (and for some reason, don’t always fail).

• Do you like school?

Yes. Especially college. I’ve never enjoyed it so much. With more freedom, why not?

• Favorite subject?

Mathematics, but I also love computer and technology subjects as well. I also love reading and writing classes (although my reading comprehension is horrible)

• Favorite TV show?

Don’t really have one. I rarely watch TV much nowadays. I do watch anime though if you count that. Some of my favorites is Cute High Earth Defense Club, Cute High Earth Defense Club Happy Kiss, Yuri on Ice, and Yona of the Dawn. But ultimately it depends on the genres. I love male sports, male idols, BL, reverse harems, adventure, action, comedy, and supernatural. They also need males leads and not many girls.

• Favorite Movie?

None really. I always fall asleep during a movie, except for a good few. My favorite maybe... Hidden Figures? And maybe The Martian?

• Favorite books?

Sherlock Holmes by Arthur Conan Doyle (currently reading)

Micheal Vey series by Richard Paul Evans

Maximum Ride series by James Patterson

Any book by John Green

The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton (#1 best book in the world, IMO)

*All in all, I am a huge bookworm. I love tons of books. I may start reading Harry Potter soon.

• Favorite pastime?

Well, let’s see. Naps, sleeping, cooking, naps, writing (recently), reading, naps, playing otomes, drawing 3d cubes (and sucking at it) and more naps!!

* Yes, I really love naps. 😂😂😂😂😂

• Do you have any regrets?

Not really. Maybe I wish I could have worked harder in middle and high school and then maybe I wouldn’t have gone through so much stress and depression at that time.

• Dream Job?

Something with math, like a teacher or an actuary. My ultimate goal is to have a masters or a doctorate in math so I can become a mathematician. Maybe something with computers and technology, like robotics or engineering. I also always wanted to be a chef. So at the moment, who knows?

• Would you ever like to be married?

Of course!! I have my whole future planned out.

• Would you like to have kids?

Yes.

• How many?

I want 5-6 boys and 1 girl.

• Do you like shopping?

Yes and no. It depends on what I’m shopping for. Books, yes. Food, yes (especially at Sam’s and Cosco due to the free samples). Clothes and shoes, I would if my mom wasn’t always complaining about what I choose there.

• What countries have you visited?

None. I have been to other states, such as Tennessee, Texas, Virginia (Washington DC) and a few other southern states. I do wish to travel to Japan, North and South Korea, Nordic countries, and Canada.

• Scariest nightmare you have ever had?

I would say either:

1. One where Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton visited my house and threw a party and wouldn’t leave nor let me leave (LMFAO)

2. One where I rode a bike holding a pillow and after waving to 2 of my older brothers, the bike went out of control and started falling and screaming to my death into this deep prison looking ravine (which caused me to fall out of bed)

3. One where I was inside Call of Duty: Black Ops and I was in this area overlooking another one filled with Nova 6. My head is very fuzzy about it, but someone drove a big truck and crashed causing Nova 6 to spread everywhere. Everyone started dying (I blame my brother for this dream). and I woke up crying.

* For those who’ve never played, Nova 6 is a deadly gas that kills anyone within 20 seconds of exposure. You have to have a special suit to walk around in, but if you took too much damage, your suit would crack and you would be exposed. Don’t worry. I don’t think it’s real.

Now that I’m looking, I would say most likely number 3. I can and l NEVER will forget such horror. 😭😭😭😭😭

• Any enemies?

No. Not that I know of. Maybe my older sister's cat?

• Any significant other?

Not at the moment. I did fall in love with my crush in my senior year of high school. We knew each other since 10th grade. He went to a different school run by the same principal as mine, and he would come over for certain classes. We met on a field trip through a friend, and we confessed on the last day for seniors to be at school. But we broke up days before my graduation, so not even 2 weeks. (Don’t worry. It was just because we didn’t know how to have a long-distance relationship while we were at different colleges and we didn’t want so much stress on us. I’m not upset at all. A little lonely, but not upset.)

We still talk though. I’m sure he still loves me and after college, we may get back together. Our families accepted us almost immediately, even though they never met us until our graduations. So to answer, yes and no. And currently, my friend from middle school and her family are trying to get me and my crush together. We both love each other so much, but it’s hard to confess our true feelings as we are both very shy. But they already know we are the perfect match.

• Do you believe in miracles?

No, not really. Things just happen.

• How are you?

Very very tired, and very very stressed. I’m going through my last 3 of 8 finals this week and I have to pack and move everything out the dorm by this Saturday. Being a college freshman (a sophomore in August) is a lot of work. But I feel pretty positive that my grades this semester will be much better than last semester.

Not to mention, now that it’s summer, I plan to post my very first Ikerev fanfiction!! Please look forward to it!! 🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

Also, I get to write more (Yay!!) and get more routes to play (Yay!!). I can take as many naps as I want. And I’ll be stress-free!! ... Until next semester when I move into my apartment and start school again. So honestly... I feel really chill. I love my life!! 😍😍😍😍😍😭😭😭😭😭

Tagging: @incorrectikerevquotes, @alloveroliver. @edgarbright, @alloveroliver-ash, @ikemenfics, @ikemensengokufandom, @ikemenrevolution, and whoever else wishes to do this. See you soon!! Bye bye!!

#about me

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shtcablogs · 5 years

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All The Times I Lost My Sh*t While Watching ‘thank u, next’

Our Heavenly Father Ariana Grande has blessed us mortals with first musical and now visual perfection via ‘thank u, next’. If you haven’t seen the music video yet, then what the hell are you doing reading my blog? Go watch something that’s actually worth your time.

If you lived in a bunker Kimmy Schmidt style for all of the early 2000s, I’ll quickly break down the parodies in this video for you. We start with “Mean Girls” - the gossip montage, the Plastics, and the winter talent show scene - more on that later. Then we hit “Bring It On” - the flirty toothbrush scene and the Toros cheerleaders. Then we’ve got “13 Going on 30″ - the part where Jennifer Garner crashes her childhood best friend’s wedding and cries into her old dollhouse. Lastly, my personal favorite of the bunch, “Legally Blonde”. Ari pulls up with Bruiser, gets her nails done, sunbathes on the lawn, etc. The entire video is a mash-up recreating scenes from those four movies. Now what you came here for, the 20 moments from the TUN video where I straight up lost my shit, chronologically. Here we go.

1. AARON SAMUELS

You give us Aaron Samuels within the first 20 seconds? Right then and there I knew this music video would change my life. I hope Ari tapped that.

2. WIDE SET VAGINA GIRL

You know this chick from “Mean Girls”, or you at least know her famous quotes from the film. “I saw Cady Heron wearing army pants and flip flops. So I bought army pants and flip flops.” “I can’t help it if I’ve got a heavy flow and a wide set vagina.” This girl isn’t even named in the movie but her quotes are still relevant 15 years later.

3. MEAN GIRLS FONT

Damn this font gets me hype. What a f*cking mash-up.

4. THE BURN BOOK

Literally all I want to do on a Friday night is scrapbook with Ariana Grande about our ex-boyfriends. Her burn book would be a lot thicker and more attractive than mine, but that’s another story.

5. SEAN’S PAGE

Hello, this is the shit I live for. This is Big Sean’s page, Ariana’s first real famous boyfriend. It reads “Sean [heart] / so cute / so sweet / (could still get it)”. COULD STILL GET IT!!! OKAY ARI!!!!! But yeah I don’t blame you, he could get it from me, too.

6. “SRY I DIPPED”

We’re now onto Pete Davidson’s page. On the top, Ari writes “sry I dipped”. SORRY I DIPPED. I noticed this blurb the very first time I watched the video with my friend Lardia. “HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE WHAT SHE WROTE ON PETE’S PAGE? REWIND IT!” and then we laughed for a solid minute. Such a savage and nonchalant thing to say. You were engaged to this dude, for crying out loud. I love it.

7. HUUUUGE

Also on Pete’s page, “HUUUUGE” with four U’s. She broke the dude’s heart, but I think this kind of makes up for it. She just informed the entire world that her ex is packing major heat. Good for you, Pete Davidson. Cash in on this attention.

8. KAREN CHECKING THE WEATHER

“It’s like I have ESPN or something. My breasts can always tell when it’s going to rain.”

9. THE JINGLE BELL ROCK

Definitely one of the most memorable scenes from “Mean Girls”, the winter talent show where the Plastics dance to “Jingle Bell Rock”. I love twerking to Christmas music.

10. YOU’RE DOING AMAZING SWEETIE

I’M NOT CRYING, YOU’RE CRYING. I screamed so loud when I first saw this that I woke my neighbor’s baby. Having Kris Jenner parody Amy Poehler’s role of Regina’s mom in “Mean Girls” is the most genius idea of the 21st century. Kris is often compared to Regina’s mom, mostly for an early episode of KUWTK where Kim poses for Playboy and Kris films her from the sidelines with a camera phone. And that’s where “You’re doing amazing, sweetie” was born.

11. I’M A COOL MOM

This KJ dancing GIF is everything to me. The hoop earrings, velour tracksuit, old school camcorder, it’s a f*cking look and she pulls it off like no other. My only dream in life is to become famous enough that Kris Jenner will agree to make a cameo in one of my projects. And then we become best friends and spend our days drinking dry martinis and handling crises. She then decides that the family has gotten too large for her to manage alone. We become business partners. I manage all of the grandkids. I constantly pit them against one another so they’ll work harder and maintain that competitive edge. They call me Aunt CA. Kris becomes older and starts forgetting things like how to work the ice machine and the names of Kim’s ex-husbands. She doesn’t trust anyone but me to take care of her, so I move in. I legally change my last name to Kardashian. Kris passes at the age of 96. I grieve for months but finally find the strength to go on. Business must resume, that’s what Kris would want. I continue her legacy and the grandkids become even more famous than their parents. The Kardashians/Jenners/Disicks/Wests/Thompsons/Websters/whoever the fuck else they decide to have kids with are a multi-generational dynasty thanks to Kris and her apprentice, me. I wear a “What Would Kris Jenner Do” gold diamond bracelet and look at it every day and think fondly of the great times we had together. She may be gone, but she will never be forgotten.

Jesus Christ. Talk about a rabbit hole. Back to the music video.

12. THE TOROS

“I’m sexy, I’m cute. I’m popular to boot! I’m bitchin’, great hair. The boys all love to stare!” Classic film. Extra points for the pregnant cheerleader. That shit’s hilarious. Also I’ve never seen anything cuter than tiny ass Ariana Grande in a cheer uniform.

13. SUNBATHING AT HARVARD

ICONIC. Legally Blonde is one of my all time favorite movies, mainly for Elle’s wardrobe and hilarious antics like laying out/studying in the middle of campus and going to buy a Macbook wearing a bunny costume. This is definitely one of the best shots in the music video.

14. PAULETTE

HOLY SHIT IT’S THE REAL PAULETTE. Jennifer Coolidge is freaking hilarious and masterfully played one of the funniest characters of all time IMO. The mid-music video convo with Ari and Paulette in the nail salon had me rolling. “Well, I’ve only gone out with one guy that had a big front tooth, and I liked it cause he never got anything stuck in the front teeth. Have you ever gone out with someone that had no teeth at all?” So silly but in the best way.

15. THE DOLLHOUSE

Ah, the good ol’ dollhouse from 13 Going On 30. Ariana looks so simple and innocent in this costume, it’s so unlike the rest of the video. I loved the single tear rolling down her cheek.

16. BRUISER ON A POOL FLOAT

Of course they needed a Bruiser. I will say, that’s a big fuckin’ chihuahua. It’s gotta be someone related to this video’s dog, because surely they could’ve cast a more normal sized chihuahua?

17. THE BEND AND SNAP

YASSSSSS. Ari’s got the best bend and snap I’ve ever seen, other than maybe Elle Woods herself. Also I just noticed that lady in the purple jumpsuit and beaded braids looks identical to the woman in the movie from this scene. It’s all recreated to perfection.

18. THE UPS GUY

Zamnnnn get it, Paulette. UPS guy is a smokeshow. “I’ve got a package.” “He’s got a package.”

19. F*CK YOU

Mood always. Just me in my dorm room, working on my fitness, studying for my Torts final, wearing a crop top, flicking off the haters.

20. THANK U NEXT, BITCH

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BEST PART OF THE VIDEO. NOTHING WILL EVER COMPARE. MY NEW RINGTONE. HISTORIANS GET OUT YOUR PENS. KRIS JENNER JUST WON 2018.

THANK U NEXT, BITCH!

In the name of breaking the internet,

#ari #ariana grande #thank u next #thank u next bitch #thank u next video #lost my shit #kris jenner #legally blonde #bring it on #mean girls #13 going on 30 #list #celebs

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todokori-kun · 7 years

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WELCOME BACK!

<3 I really missed you, and it’s so great to hear you had fun! (and omg yes so ready to see all those beautiful pics)

Yaaayyyy join me in MCU feels hell. And oooh, you have a ship for the fandom now! Like, Stoki’s still my favorite Steve pairing but Stony’s really cool too…you know I ship almost everything XD (also am I the only person who sorta hated almost everyone by the end of CW? Like, of course they’re still my favs and there are still some cinnamon rolls, but, come on. Why couldn’t you all just get along ;-;)

Speaking of Illumi, do you know that Hisoka/Illumi is an incredibly popular ship in the HxH fandom? Probably because both of them are so horrible that they have like 0 friends other than each other. Nobody else wants to hang out with these losers. (Chrollo tolerates Hisoka and the adults in Illumi’s family seem to spend enough time with him to give him orders, but that’s about it.) It’s a trash ship with two trashy people and tbh I love it XD

So continuing with the eye jokes, imagine. Hisoillu version of Helpless. Hisoillu version of Satisfied.

“Look into his eyes and the sky’s the limit”

“Intelligent eyes in a hunger-pang frame”

(I know you did thise one before but still) “But when I fantasize at night, it’s Illumi’s eyes”

just, I’m imagining animatics for this with the ‘camera’ zooming in on Illumi’s dead fish eyes every time the lyrics mention them. It’s hilarious and also mildly terrifying

(though I guess if we’re actually making a Hamilton AU Hisoka’s way more likely to do something like Say No To This…)

idk if I’d want to be a parent either really LOL. Kids are adorable but I don’t think I’ll ever be responsible enough to raise one…

If Ishida makes a plot twist or something about it being someone else pretending to be Hide I'm actually gonna get mad. Dude. Not only would that bring the Hide feels right back it’d just make absolutely no sense omg

(also you read the new chapter, right? So, let’s talk about Juuzou and that huge death flag)

I’ve heard of Soul Eater and considered reading it but it’s not really the kind of thing I’m into…artwork’s cute, though, and Death the Kid seems like an interesting guy so maybe someday XD

AGH I’M ACTUALLY SORTA JEALOUS BECAUSE WOW I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO WATCH THAT LEGALLY HERE IN KOREA. (unless I ask my dad for help but he doesn’t like manga/anime at all, so…) But yes, I’m really happy Lizzy finally got her moment this time! Now anime-only fans can’t complain about her being a ‘shallow’ character so hopefully there’ll be less fighting over Lizzy in the Kuro fandom :D

FINALLY. Fellow Death Note fan <3333 Who’s your fav? Do you have any ships? Are you done with the anime??? :D (also do you know…you picked a really interesting time to join the DN fandom. The American live-action movie just came out and it sucks so freaking bad, like I haven’t even watched it yet and just from the reviews/clips, here’s what I got:

-They turned Misa into this Harley Quinn-type character. Only without any depth.

-Light/Misa is an actual canon ship, like, it’s not abusive or one-sided like it is in the anime/manga, it’s just…a thing. Light loves Misa. Misa loves Light. It’s like every cringey high school romance movie ever, only with more murder

-They freaking bent the Death Note rules just so Light could get away with all sorts of ridiculous stuff

-L cries, L rants, L is overly emotional

-Light tells L where he hid a page from his Death Note. Light doesn’t deny being Kira. Light shows Misa his Death Note when they like barely know each other and she’s still a complete stranger to him. Light acts like an idiot.

-Oh sure, he’s Kira, God of the New World, but he still cares about going to prom with his girlfriend and making stupid faces as they pose for pictures

-So much unnecessary gore. Heart attacks are Kira’s thing, Light isn’t that emotional about his kills, he doesn’t care as long as the 'villains’ are dead, so why???

-Apparently Rem does not exist. Sayu doesn't exist either. Light’s mom is dead (probably so he can angst over her)

-Light Turner. Light TURNER. Out of all the surnames they could have chosen…

-And now, for the most unforgivable sin:

How dare they not include the Potato Chip scene)

And then random things: JJ and Light have the same voice actor. Yurio and Mello (imo…have you met Mello yet?) could be long-lost twins.

Also:

I’ve fallen into Steven Universe hell and now I’m imagining so. Many. Gem AUs. Have you ever heard of SU?

(look:

1- don’t stress about the messages, and come on, I’d never get mad at you over something like this! You’re way too awesome.

2- I don’t really know what to say 'cause I’m bad at comforting people, but ugh, it sucks to hear that school’s tiring you out! Queen Luna’s gonna get through this, though. I mean, you’re great at so many things and you’re freaking smart and…this is awkward but maybe you understand Evans Language by now? XD Guess I’m just trying to say that I’m sure you’ll do great, and if you ever need someone to talk to I’m (almost) always free *hugs*

3- Um. So, other than tumblr, I think the only way I can talk with you right now is if we email each other? The email address I used this time is my real one (or rather, my dad’s, since I don’t have one of my own yet…) so maybe we can talk about this more through email and find a better way to contact each other? If that’s ok with you can you send me a message there?)

P.S:

I’ve started college and have no idea what I’m doing

*slams head against keyboard* guess who managed to get sick. It’s only been a week since school started. Whatever, I’m still going to school, but I woke up breathing like a fish on land, bc asthma. Yay.

I’m definitely gonna upload the pics today!!

Okay, but one thing I’m wondering about, is How? Not in a malicious way or anything, I’m genuinely curious to why you ship Stoki (and where it began). Was it that redemption fic you told me about or did you ship it before?

Tbh, I didn’t hate the characters in CW, I hated the situation. Because there’s so so much pointless conflict that could easily be solved if everyone sat down and talked like normal people. But nooo we have to go around attacking each other. ((ALSO CAP’S LETTER TO TONY, I AM DEAD))

I’ve already learned (and experienced) that shipping is a very weird and unusual thing, so I’ll be honest and say I’m not even surprised that ship exists. At least it has some basis XD

I’m actually tempted to go through the lyrics of the whole musical and find every single eye line there is, only to replace it w Illumi’s eyes.

Not only zooming in on the eyes, the word itself is louder than the rest XD man if only I could draw…

Tbh I’d say I’m responsible enough (HA, that’s more or less a lie), but I’m honestly way too irritated with the little ones to be able to have one of my own. My cousin recently celebrated her 3rd bday and I was stuck looking after her during the party, bc all the adults were talking among themselves and I swear to god, I haven’t moved that much since I had to run 2km for PE. Where do they get their energy. Not to mention the adults thought it would be a good idea to leave me w her, because I’d already drunk 3 glasses of wine (i was bored and not allowed to do anything other than stare at emptiness or look after a 3yo). Turns out my tolerance isn’t that bad after all.

Lol let’s be honest, Ishida would totally do that. He knows the fandom would riot and that’s the whole point.

All the death flags. Tbh I don’t know how I feel about it. It’s obvious that either Touka or Juuzou are probably gonna die and I wan’t neither (If I have to choose tho, I’d rather Juuzou survives.) Also Naki. HNNNNNNGH

I think you’d actually like the manga? It takes a pretty dark turn compared to the anime and deals with lots of mental issues (the whole theme of the later volumes is Madness). Also, lots of death XD Well, the artwork changes drastically, so which one are you talking about XD

The girl in the coat (left first pic, middle 2nd) is the same person for reference. Death the Kid was one of my first anime crushes. The guy has OCD and is a total badass.

MUHAHAHAHA I think someone uploaded the Lizzy fight to youtube so you can probably find it there, but I am in love. The animation is beautiful, so that’s also a huge plus. All in all, it was handled really well.

Death Note

So last I’ve watched is ep 25, aka the one WHERE L DIES. And i am not okay. I am nowhere near okay. Nope. Not at all.

Oh i’ve heard all about the adaptation. Tbh I find the whitewashing hilarious. Setting the movie in America removes so much of the series’s logic, so why? L being the way he is is probably my favourite mistake. They took the best character and ruined him completely. POTATO CHIP SCENE NOOOO But my question is: did everything go just according to the keikaku?

Have fun w SU! I’ve watched it for a while, but gave up at some point. I might pick it up again if I have the time ^^ Word of advice, watch out for the fandom, they’re among the most toxic ones I’ve ever encountered. One time, they almost drove an artist to suicide because she didn’t draw Rose ‘thick enough’. So yeah.

What did I do to deserve you as my friend TT^TT Thank you so so much, those words mean more than you can imagine.

Um. Looks like we’ll be staying here, because I never, ever check my mail, despite getting school assignments there, so yeah. If we used mail, you’d probably get a response every leap year.

How does the education system work in Korea? Like, at what age do you start going to which school?

Also, I’ve told you about Mystic Messenger? I think you’d like the newest update, because damn, it’s creeping me out. Also, it’s in Korean, so + ((My thoughts during the prologue of the new route: Nani the fuck))

#evans #submission

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haltandcatchfiretothemax · 7 years

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Stuck with me, stuck in the middle with you: Cameron & Donna continue to confound in “FUD” (or, an inverse H&CF recap)

"FUD" picks up where the pilot leaves off, with the arrival of IBM's representatives. It also picks up the pilot's character dichotomy of Cameron the Mystery Gal versus Donna the Housewife, but deepens both of them and the other characters in unexpected ways.

The show masterfully uses IBM's visit to trigger a surprising amount of development, and without prolonging their stay. IBM's inquisition is over within the episode's first four minutes, but that's all it takes for them to sow the eponymous fear, uncertainty, and doubt! Before the opening titles roll, Cameron is paranoid about her expendability after she finishes the BIOS (and also her liability), Gordon is unsure of how useful his extensive microcomputing experience (and failures) will really be in fully realizing this project, and J*e manages to lull himself into a false confidence that his plan went off perfectly and that his prior personal implosion at IBM is in the past.

He finally reveals the big idea to Cameron and Gordon -- "2X FAST, 1/2 PRICE" -- and that's when all the feels start to come out. Gordon panics at first ("…that's physically impossible, I mean it's literally a physics problem"), but, typical engineer, within a few minutes he's ecstatically solving the seemingly unsolvable. Naturally, Cameron has the opposite reaction, seeing not a worthy hardware challenge, but a serious failure of imagination, and one that she signed on for without actually knowing what she was getting into. She and Gordon clash immediately over the project's basic worth, and he talks down to her for a few minutes before Bos and Debbie come to escort her to the 'clean room'. On top of having to contribute to an offensively boring project, she has to do so in a beige box of a room while a middle aged white dude lawyer sits there reading his fishing magazine watching everything she's doing. Confined creatively and physically, and stuck making a beige box in a beige box, Cameron confronts what is clearly her own personal hell.

Gordon's apparent contempt for Cameron implicates Donna, who is relieved and overjoyed when Gordon comes home in time for dinner to tell her that IBM is gone and the project is underway. As in the pilot, Donna only appears in this episode in relation to Gordon, and acts as his better judgment. Initially she charmingly insists that whoever they got to write the BIOS "must be the real deal if you're on board." But later, after she meets Cameron in the Cardiff ladies' room, Donna deduces that her husband is keeping a lot more than a colleague's gender from her. Donna is visibly mesmerized by Cameron, but is also attentive enough to her family's needs to not be distracted by her, or to trust her on sight. Delightfully incapable of coddling Gordon, she responds to his eventual admission that he lied about Cameron and also didn't have very much say in her hiring with a wearily ominous, "Yeah, well…let's just hope J*e was right." The conflict between Gordon and Cameron manifests as tension between Gordon and Donna, introducing a strange but impossible to ignore dynamic between Cameron and Donna.

The dynamic between Cameron and J*e is a lot darker, and their interactions in this episode (which, no, are not romantic, so don't start or @ me) are difficult to watch. Cameron lasts less than a full work day in the clean room despite being legally mandated to be there, moving to some kind of concrete basement space replete with chainlink fence accents? (Every punk in Dallas is trying to set up shows there, I bet, every punk I know in present day NYC & Philadelphia would be.) There's this running not-joke of Cameron consistently not ever being where she's "supposed" to be; she isn't supposed to be at Cardiff at all according to Gordon, isn't supposed to be sleeping there instead of finding an apartment, and most of all she is never in her assigned workspace, much to the aggravation of her coworkers.

Which is how J*e realizes that he has no control over her, but damn if he doesn't try. He purposefully inserts himself into her space (…ew), repeatedly, to try to pressure her into following his plan of opening the IBM binder instead of writing her own BIOS from scratch, a criminal offense that could land her in prison. (Which, who would say no to that show? But, focus, Jamie.) He tries to sales pitch his way into forcing her to get on board, but then becomes really and truly rattled when he realizes that he unequivocally cannot smooth talk her, and also can't shame or exhaust her into humoring him or just going with it. (Note his reaction to, "Wow, did you practice that in a mirror?" He starts to really lose his cool, and Cameron doesn't hesitate to interrupt or dismiss his spiel.) He invades her new workspace, talks down to and over her, and eventually yells at her, screaming in her face about 'getting in the game,' and to her credit, she doesn't cave. ("Why don't you go do whatever it is a product manager does?" Way to keep it sassy, C.)

What really are the odds of Cameron going to prison, or of J*e (or Gordon?) turning her in? I don't know, but it would be a convenient way to get rid of her, and J*e and Gordon do agree to let her go after she finishes the BIOS. J*e tells Gordon he plans to do this, interestingly, after Cameron manages to chase him out of her workspace by aggressively propositioning him, and going out of her way to make him very uncomfortable. (But that scene is worthy of its own post, if I ever have the wherewithal to write it, ACK.) Again, ICYMI: J*e does not like that he can't control her, and no, it's not hot, it's just disturbing.

Since Bos has been doing his job during all of this, he knows something fishy is happening. He's the only one who isn't completely shocked by IBM's unexpected but inevitable final offensive. J*e is forced to admit that he didn't foresee the raid, but even that isn't enough to knock any sense into him. If anything, by the time he, Gordon and Cameron confront each other in the Cardiff parking lot (the first time we see them all together since the beginning of the episode), J*e has fully doubled down on his need to regain control of this scheme, even if it requires a bewildering but admittedly spellbinding, shirtless monologue about how different and dangerous to the world the three of them are, and how much potential they have if they could just work together and rise above this new threat of Cardiff's recent financial decimation. There's no room for infighting; it's only a few days into the pc's development, and they've all already invested far too much, and begun to learn the real cost of doing business.

If nothing else, J*e's monologue convinces him, and when he gets to work the next morning, he seems elated to see Cameron and Gordon. But Cameron is there because she literally has nowhere else to go, and Gordon, stone-faced when J*e smiles at him, has no real choice. J*e can spin whatever story he wants, but Cameron and Gordon (and by extension Donna, though not onscreen with them here) know that they're really just stuck with him, and each other.

Stray bytes:

I didn't even get into the bathroom or dressing room scenes, what kind of camxdonna blogger am I?! I've said if before though: Cameron goes shopping after she meets and gets thoroughly cruised (!!!) by the unattainably perfect and deceptively prim Donna. Donna is already having an effect on her, if not a positive one.

Gordon, with his cushy job, nice house, cute kids, and utter gift of a wife calling Cameron an 'entitled school kid': L M A O

This scene is saved by Bos though imo, when he comes in and refers to Cameron as "Slim" <3 <3 <3

Not to get overly deep with it, but the way Cameron figures out what J*e is doing and unhesitatingly yells back at him suggests life experience to me, i.e., that she's used to being berated, but I'm thinking by her mom. For the record, I'd also completely buy Cameron responding by shutting down, because every survivor is different.

How satisfying is it when Gordon sees Cameron's work for the first time, and says it's 'brilliant'? Judge not, betch.

That very last scene though. “Is that right?” As always, Cameron sees right through you, dude.

"…Carl's a no." Bos is the both the show's moral compass and sole source of humor. That doesn't feel like coincidence.

Every time I watch the parking lot argument, I think of Carrie Bradshaw shouting, "Stop it! You're MIDDLE AGED!" at Big and Aidan. It also makes me think of, "I know cooler heads should prevail, but am I the only one who wants to see this?" It s too easy to imagine Cameron thinking both of those things, at the same time.

#so i finally got this done...yayyyy....#again no cut for accessibility #cameron howe #donna clark #donna emerson #halt and catch fire s1 #1x02 #FUD #the h&cf rewatch #hacf to the max original recaps #halt and catch fire to the max originals!

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toushi · 7 years

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Thank you to everytone who tagged me and sorry for the late response c’:

I tag: @tsukis @gintoukis @nikiforv @josenji @sarapyon @aomine-s @sougu @ackermanss @oohiras @ferid for any of these (or none at all, it’s up to you c:)

rules: copy/paste and replace my answers with yours and tag people ^^

a - age: 20  b - biggest fear: failure  c - current time: 2:40pm  d - drink you last had: water  e - every day starts with: "no” f - favorite song: Perfect, by Ed Sheeran  g - ghosts, are they real: yes  h - hometown: Somewhere near Paris c:  i - in love with: Anna and Kuroo ♡  j - jealous of: envious of wealthy & healthy people  k - killed someone: :^) ... no(t yet)  l - last time you cried: two-three days ago because i was very anxious m - middle name: Sin i dont have one  n - number of siblings: two  o - one wish: tranquility p - person you last called/texted: called my mom to let her know my sis who went with her forgot her phone at home q - questions you’re always asked: "why are you so quiet” :)))) i strongly Hate™ this question  r - reasons to smile: wonderful people with beautiful souls ♡  s - song last sang: Barcelona, Ed Sheeran t - time you woke up: 11:10am (finally could sleep in after waking up all week at 5am rip me)  u - underwear color: blue v - vacation destination: Japan + Philippines (I really miss it)  w - worst habit: i procrastinate way too much now  x - x-rays you’ve had: one for my back y - your favorite food: mom and dad’s cooking  z - zodiac sign: leo

Tagged by @juminss & @sarapyon ! thanks bbies ♡

1) Coke or Pepsi? coke 2) Disney or Dreamworks? disney all the way !!! but i love dreamworks too c: ♡ 3) Coffee or Tea? coffee 4) Books or Movies? books but i dont have time for them anymore ; u ; 5) Windows or Mac? windows, i dont understand mac tbh lmao 6) D.C or Marvel? i dont have a preference since i’m not a fan of either 7) Xbox or PlayStation? PlayStation 8) Dragon or Mass Effect? are those videogames ? because idk what they are lol c’: 9) Night Owl or Early Riser? early riser, though i love to sleep in lol 10) Cards or Chess? cards 11) Chocolate or Vanilla? CHOCOOOOOOOOOOOOO ♡ 12) Vans or Converse? vans 13) Lavellan, Trevelyan, Canadash or Adaar? what 14) Fluff or Angst? both :^) but angst man ... i def need more of it and see my faves suffer bc i’m a sadist. but an emo sadist bc i cry when they suffer even though i asked for it. *cough* 15) Beach or Forest? beach 16) Dogs or Cats? DOGGGSSSS !!! but i love @aomine-s‘s cats c: 17) Clear Skies or Rain? clear skies 18) Cooking or Eating out? simply eat ; i dont like to cook and i dont wanna go out lol 19) Spicy or Mild Food? SPICYYYY :^) 20) Halloween/Samhain or Solstice/Yule/Christmas? CHRISTMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS ♡ 21) Would you rather forever be a little too cold or a little too hot? a little too hot (i cant stand cold at all) 22) If you could have a superpower what would it be? time travel 23) Animation or Live Action? animation, but i love stage plays :) 24) Paragon or Renegade? again, i’ve no idea what this is c’: 25) Bath or Shower? shower 26) Team Cap or Team Iron-Man? iron man 27) Fantasy or Sci-Fi? fantasy 28) Do you have three or four favorite quotes it so what are they? "When you’re hungry, eat” (Monkey D. Luffy) :^) ; “Give back double what people do to you” (Sakata Gintoki) ; “Always help someone. You might be the only one that does” (Unknown). 29) YouTube or Netflix? youtube 30) Harry Potter or Percy Jackson? HARRY POTTER !!!!!! 31) When do you feel accomplished? when i’ve done something i’m satisfied with 32) Star Wars or Star Trek? i haven’t watched neither 33) Paperback book or Hardcover book? hard cover have a beautiful charm imo c: 34) Fantastic beast or Cursed Child? i havent read/watched them but i’m drawn to fantastic beast contrary to cursed child 35) Rock or Pop Music? pop-rock 36) What is the most important thing in your life? my family/friends ! 37) Mountains or Sea/Ocean? sea/ocean 38) How do you express yourself? i rarely express myself irl because i’m shy and introverted ... but when it comes to texting / group chats with people from tumblr, it’s easier for me c: 39) What’s the first book/film that really counted to you? i cant remember c’: 40) What’s your element (air, water, etc)? water 41) If you could travel anywhere, where would you go? Japan 42) If you could have any job in the world, what would it be? Archaelogist 43) If you were granted three wishes, what would they be? Be rich without working, let my family and me be healthy, and let there be peace and equality in the world. 44) If you had to eat one food for the rest of your life, what would it be? My mom’s fish amok 45) What’s your Spirit Animal/Patronus? Ibizan Hound, according to Pottermore 46) Would you kill yourself and save your friends or kill your friends and save yourself? Save them 47) If you had to become a mythical creature which would you be? a phoenix 48) Your favorite song? Perfect, Ed Sheeran 49) A4 or A5 notebooks? A4 50) If you had to give up on someone you love, making this person forget about you, and never see him/her again, to save his/her life, would you do it? I would, which I already am doing, kinda. 51) Did you ever wish to become someone else? If yes, then what would you do to make yourself better? Yes. but I’ve learn to accept who I am c:

tagged by @aizawashoutta & @sougu thank you so much <3

rules: answers these questions and tag nine people you want to get to know better.

relationship status: with kuroo single

favourite color: blue, pastel colors, red

lipstick or chapstick: i dont wear makeup at all lol

last song I listened to: We don’t talk anymore, covered by Jungkook

last movie watched: Moana

top three tv shows: dancing with the stars is the only reason i’d turn my tv on lol / as for animanga : hq!!, gintama, one piece

top three ships: it’s very difficult for me to have ships but i love iwaoi, hakyona & hijigin

Tagged by @akutagawah ! Thanks mom ♡

Five Things You’ll Find In My Bag:

first-aid kit

tissues

an umbrella

pills/pain killers/etc.

a bottle of water

Five Things In My Bedroom:

my laptop

tons ... of school books

i have my own little “pharmacy” as well lol

family pics

the Philippines flag

Five Things I’ve Always Wanted To Do In My Life:

travel aboard a ship

travel to other countries and get to know the people who live there

do a road trip with friends (so much travelling ikr lol)

i ... dont know lol

Five Things That Make Me Happy:

friends & family

anime/manga

kuroo tetsurou

make gifs

historical discoveries

Five Things On My To-Do List:

graduate asap

buy a car

get my own appartment

get a summer job

learn more languages

Five Things People May Not Know About Me:

it’s really hard for me to start/keep up convos in real life

i have a bunch of beauty marks here and there all over my body

i’m patient and understanding, but i can bite the Hardest :)c

i’ve been through depression

i’ve a strong attachment to ancient asian beliefs / tradition

#tagged #you don't have to do it of course c:

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katieistotallywrite · 7 years

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Disney Marathon: Golden Age (1937-1942)

I’m a huge fan of Disney movies, so I thought it would be fun to marathon them all with my two best friends. Before we eventually get to Pixar and other films, I wanted to start with the currently 56 animated film canon. We recently completed the first 5 Disney films, so I thought I’d talk about my opinions on them. I can’t say when I’ll do more since it’s so hard for me and my friends to all get together, but I’ll post as soon as we finish another particular era of the films.

The first five are from what many call the Golden Age(though there’s debate about the movies up to and including Jungle Book being part of it too), also known as the Tar and Sugar Era because of the huge contrasts between the cutesy and sweet moments and the dark and depressing moments, more than any other era of Disney. Here are my thoughts:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937):

The first full-length hand-drawn animated film and the first animated film in color(not the first animated film ever like Disney claims)is a huge legacy to have. It’s an incredibly innovative and important film not just in animated history, but film history, and even now, many people consider it THE greatest animated film of all time. Eeehhhhhh...

I like Snow White, don’t get me wrong, but I respect it more than I do like it. I can definitely appreciate what Snow White did for animation since it probably wouldn’t be the same without it. And for 1937, the animation in this movie is still beautiful, even now. It doesn’t look 30s, but it certainly sounds it. The songs and character voices are very of their time, ESPECIALLY Snow White herself. I can’t stand this girl’s voice. It’s so shrill. And out of all the Disney Princesses, she’s probably the least progressive other than Aurora from Sleeping Beauty. I do find the dwarfs very likable though. They’re definitely the best part of this movie. The movie also doesn’t have a very focused plot either; it has a lot of filler. That’s not a bad thing mind you, but it is something I’ve noticed that’s apparent through a lot of the earlier Disney films. It’s a good movie, but not a great movie in my opinion. It’s my fourth favorite of the Golden Age.

Pinocchio (1940)

I fucking love this movie. Pinocchio was a huge improvement over Snow White in every way, at least in my opinion. Of all of the movies in this era, Pinocchio had the most focus on its plot. Sure, it had filler, but much less and in much shorter time. I love all the characters in this movie, from Pinocchio, to Jiminy Cricket, to even the many villains in this movie who never get their comeuppance. This movie exemplifies the Tar of the Tar and Sugar era, being not only one of the darkest films of the era, but of the entire Disney canon. The donkey transformation scene alone is enough for me to not want to show it to a younger child, but it is an awesomely freaky scene. And of course it gives us what has become the anthem of Disney, When You Wish Upon a Star, which is such a beautiful, inspirational song.

Not to mention the animation in Pinocchio, even now, is simply amazing. The character animation and the backgrounds are so well crafted and beautiful. Seriously, before CG was even even conceived of, someone had to animate Monstro and all of the water in this movie by fucking hand. It’s astonishing how much care went into this movie. Every time I watch it, I find more to love and that will always continue, I’m sure. As much as I’m singing the praises of this movie though, it’s just my second favorite of the Golden Age. Why? You’ll see later on.

Fantasia (1940)

I like Fantasia quite a bit, hell, I LOVE parts of it. But this is definitely my least favorite of the original five. I feel like this is mainly because it’s the only film of the Tar and Sugar era that I didn’t grow up with. I saw this later on when I was in middle school. Nostalgia, along with emotional attachment, are a huge reason certain movies rank higher than others for me. This is another case where I respect the movie more than like it obviously, but there are lots of things to like.

While this one probably focuses the least on plot of the original five, it is not a problem in this case because Fantasia doesn’t really have a long, continuous story; it’s basically a series of shorts set to music. Some of them are truly amazing, such as the Nutcracker Suite, Night on Bald Mountain/Ave Maria, and of course the iconic Sorcerer’s Apprentice. All of them are strong, but I do feel like the Rite of Spring goes on a little too long compared to the other shorts, and the Pastoral Symphony has some pretty obvious animation errors(look closely at the baby Pegasi as they land in the water). The animation errors are forgivable though because the rest of the movie is well animated and really pretty to look at, made even better by the beautiful classical music it’s set to. It also helps that the music was performed by one of the greatest composers and orchestras of the time. But this definitely seems more like an education program than a real film. A really excellent educational program that I would absolutely watch again, but parts of it are hard to get through; mainly the Rite of Spring imo.

Dumbo (1941)

Due to the disappointing box office return(at the time) of Pinocchio and the utter failure at the box office(again, at the time) of Fantasia, on top of the animator’s going on strike, the budget for Dumbo was a lot less than the previous three movies. Dumbo was basically a longer short with a slightly higher budget, but compared to the previous films, the animation quality doesn’t hold up nearly as well. It still had excellent character designs, but aside from the Pink Elephant scene, the animation wasn’t nearly as consistently good. Not to mention those crows are incredibly racist nowadays(though surprisingly progressive at the time the movie was made).

With all of that said, this is my favorite of the Golden Age. Why? Simple. It makes me cry. Many Disney movies made me cry at one point or another, but Dumbo is one of the few that ALWAYS does. It’s the scene where he’s reunited with his mother. The combination of the song, Baby Mine, with the visuals of his mom’s trunk nurturing him despite barely fitting through the bars of her cage ...I dunno man, but it makes me an emotional wreck, to the point where just hearing that song can make me tear up. You can seriously feel the emotions Dumbo is feeling and it pulls at my heartstrings. TV Tropes describes characters similar to Dumbo as a “woobie” and I honestly think Dumbo is the ultimate one, considering all of the sad shit happens to him when he’s a fucking baby. Anyway, the point is, Pinocchio may be better by an “objective” standpoint, but Dumbo holds a special place for me for sentimental reasons, pushing this movie to the top for me.

Bambi (1942) I forget how good Bambi is every time I rewatch it. It has the same thing a lot of movies of this era have with the filler, but the filler is very pleasant and fun to watch. And I always forget how stunning the backgrounds are. You can tell the background artists poured their hearts into it. The same can be said about the animation. The animals, particularly the deer, are noticeably better designed and animated than the ones in Snow White. The animators did a lot of research on the real life animal counterparts so they could get the movements just right, and it really shows. Take out the dialogue, add narration, and Bambi could practically be a nature documentary, except during the sillier scenes.

One thing that bugs me about it though is how it handles the “tar and sugar” stuff. While the scene before the death of Bambi’s mother juxtaposes well with the aftermath of her death and is overall very powerful and heart wrenching, I find the scene after the aftermath where Bambi and the Great Prince of the Forest are walking in the snow is followed immediately with the twitter patted tweeting birds to be incredibly jarring. Like in a really off putting way. Unlike a lot of other movies of this era, this scene doesn’t juxtapose well at all. That said, Bambi is really good despite the problems I have with it. It’s my third favorite of the Golden Age.

That’s my thoughts on the first few movies in the Disney canon. I’ll talk about the next era of films whenever me and my friends have finished watching them. If anyone for some reason wants to know more specific thoughts on these movies(because I glossed over A LOT and didn’t go into a lot of detail), send me an ask!

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