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getlost0p · 5 months
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Vickie :(
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thesapphicsoldier · 11 months
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Happy pride month to the canon homos 🏳️‍🌈
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Oh- did I put Mike there? Whoops, my bad 🤭
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jaegerisim · 10 months
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Vent post y'all are gonna hate me for.
I viscerally hate how the Duffers treat most of their non white or queer characters and I hate even more viscerally, how y'all big byler blogs in your circle jerk of other 5 big byler blogs casually like to ignore many red flags the show has.
Y'all like to say: "tHe DufFeRs ArE gReAt WrIteRs" and it's like girl, who are you lying to??? They aren't top shit writers at all. The Duffers are pretty mid imo. Yeah, they run a good show that's fun to watch and theorize abt , but that doesn't mean they're good writers cuz they're not.
1. they completely side lined Will during s3 for the sake of their straight romances: lumax, jancy, mlvn, duzie and partly stobin (even if stobin wasn't endgame, thankfully, Steve's intentions were clearly wanting to date Robin and they gave it a lot of screen time). Will was sidelined bc he didn't fit the straight romance plotline bc they planned to make him gay or whatever. Now in s4 Will and his feelings have been used as mlvn toilet paper. Yes, we like to say this is build up for byler but canonically, Will's feelings have been used to clean the shit mlvn leaves behind.
2. Billy was sympathized a lot during the last 2 seasons. They gave him the sad backstoryTM in order for ppl to feel sorry for him. Billy's backstory is literally Jonathan's but whatever.
3. El's anger issues are constantly girlboss-ified. They down play her bullying situation and literally just use it for El to be a ''girlboss" without realizing how triggering that is. As someone who has lived bullying, seeing it be ignored by canon and fanon is super sad. The whole Rink-O' Mania experience must have been so traumatizing for her yet, everyone absolutely forgets abt it 🤷🏻‍♀️
4. Robin, Erica and Argyle are stereotypical characters. Robin is the quirky lesbian with social anxiety, Erica is the badass black woman and Argyle is the Latino stoner that sells weed to white kids and works as a pizza delivery guy.
5. Altho Argyle and Eddie both do drugs, (Eddie actually sells K-12 to a minor and nobody batted an eye. He has a huge fan base). Eddie is held in a pedestal bc "poor thing 🥺 he lives in a trailer with his uncle 🥺". Tell me a single fact you know abt Argyle that isn't "he smokes weed", "he is Jonathan's only friend", "drives a van" and "he works at a pizzeria". Exactly, Eddie is given a useless backstory and Argyle isn't.
6. Dustin stopped being important to the plot sometime around s2 and s3. He is only there to curse and be mildly funny. My guy needs to hangout with ppl his age cuz he only hangs out with seniors.
7. El needs to stop having so much "I'M THAT BITCH" screentime like I need in s5 for El's arc to not just be her becoming more powerful and falling in love with Mike. I need the Duffers to explore her trauma and problems.
8. Angela should have been run over by the van.
9. Patrick should have been given a backstory that isn't the basic "strict black parents that hit their kids cuz they are a disgrace". Patrick's backstory is actually racist af, fight w the wall.
10. As Lex already said, they didn't trigger tag the ep where Jason and his friends assault Lucas and Erica. Like wtf? Why was that necessary? Why did I have to see a black boy being held at gunpoint by some white guy?? Was it relevant to the plot?? I don't think so. And then I've got to see ppl online be like "Jason wasn't that bad. He was just mourning" like bitch you can stfu. This is what happens when you make the racist assholes conventionally attractive.
Also the fact that Lucas's arc is fulfilled by him fist-fighting Jason and "embracing his weirdness" aka accepting he is black. His arc was not fulfilled at all cuz that ending spoke so loud to me. It showed how little empathy ppl have towards the struggles poc ppl living in the Midwest have. Y'all circle jerks can only see racism when it's super obvious.
Furthermore, parents complained when ST showed "an excessive amount of smoking" yet nobody batted an eye when Billy tried to run over Lucas, when Erica (an 11 y.o ffs) was chased by white kids or when Lucas was held at gunpoint by Jason.
All of this happened while they focused on Max's guilt and mourning that, yeah, are important but certainly not less important than racism!!!
11. In s3, they gave us that whole Nancy vs The Bigots arc that was honestly just triggering and useless. It didn't help Nancy's character at all, quite the opposite it put unnecessary angst.
12. Lonnie being presented as an abuser just for him to never be spoken of again. Can we please get to explore the trauma he left the Byers's with?
13. The fact that both queer relationships are considered "sloppy seconds" is extremely sad. Both Vickie and Mike are rebounding from their failed relationship with Robin and Will. These 2 ships have caused more commotion than Jancy and Jopper together! (These last ships are technically sloppy seconds too but everybody forgets that. Shocker!!)
14. Last but not least, ppl blame Argyle for being the one to get Jonathan into smoking weed as if Jonathan probably wasn't the one looking for it. Let me tell you, that you only find weed if you look for it.
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demobatman · 11 months
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remember when i asked for these months ago <3
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'robin knows the most queer stuff bc she's queer' this and 'steve knows the most queer stuff bc he has gaydar' that what about VICKIE? give me confident bi vickie who figured it out years ago and has a collection of zines and learned all about queer history and spent a summer in Indy just standing there all -_- while stobin's collective braincell bounces around like the DVD screensaver trying to hit the corner as they try and decypher bisexuality
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dinitride-art · 1 year
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Robin and Vickie <3
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frozenfrogz · 1 year
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When you don't have to wish and imagine that their cannon bc they already are.
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byler-alarmist · 8 months
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Disclaimer: I am not anti-Vickie by any means. I think Vickie seems very sweet (although there may be something going on with her we don't know) and I will fully support her and Robin if the Duffers can prove to me in S5 why they work together.
That said, I am going to examine the one, glaring issue I have with Rovickie. If you're not put off by that, read on!
So, most of the criticism leveled against Vickie is that we don't know anything about her. That's true; we don't.
However, my main criticism is:
Does Robin know anything about her??
All we hear from Robin in S4 is that Vickie is the girl of her dreams, but we never hear why. In all her gushing/agonizing to Steve, Robin never tells us what about Vickie makes her so special.
Is she smart? Funny? Ambitious? Kind? Is she a pro at playing poker?
Even Tammy Thompson, whose role in S3 was purely offscreen, got a shout out of traits that Robin valued ("she has dreams!").
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We can't say the same for Vickie. All we know is:
-she laughed at one of Robin's (Steve's) jokes
-she likes Fast Times
-she talks a lot when nervous
-she possibly likes boobies
And those last two were only figured out by Robin in the final episode of S4.
If Robin's feelings for Vickie are more than mere infatuation based on looks, wouldn't Robin have told us more than the most surface-level things about her?
And if your immediate response to this "well, she just hasn't spent enough one-on-one time with her to know!" .......that's exactly my point.
The writers have shown time and time again that the shallow relationships where tbe couple got into it without really talking or getting to know each other do not last .
I'm reminded of Lucas telling Mike "you're just blind because a girl isn't grossed out by you." 👀
All this in the same season where Robin is spending one-on-one time with Nancy, getting to know her and respect the things that make her "her". Rather than just looks, Robin gets to see Nancy's drive, intellect, leadership and bravery.
She calls her a "genius", says she is "full of surprises", and learns even more about her when Nancy opens up about her relationship inecurities. Robin sees her complexity.
I don't know about you, but to me, this is the core of why Rovickie is not as compelling as a ship. If they are meant to be endgame, why was Robin paired with Nancy all season?
Surely there could've been some plot device to bring Vickie into the fold, just like Max was brought into the Party back in S2.
Vickie could've been trapped with Robin and the older teens after some supernatural things happened at rhe pep rally or other school function and they got separated from the rest, or she could've been related to the Creels and the gang needed to ask her for help. It's a TV show; they can do whatever they want.
Either way, they decided not to involve her in the main plot of the show at all, preventing both Robin and the viewers from getting to know her fully. I believe this was intentional and will have consequences for their relationship in S5.
One final thought- in early S4, Robin tells Steve that she has found the girl of her dreams but can't get the courage to ask her out, whereas Steve goes on a ton of dates but has no idea what he wants.
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I think it would be VERY interesting if their roles were actually swapped, i.e. by the end of S4, Robin is the one who doesn't really know what she wants, and Steve is the one who realizes he has found the (person) of his dreams.
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azuries · 1 year
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extremely self indulgent doodles of vickie and mike bc who doesnt need a gay guardian
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gaytoru · 11 months
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the duffers like this shit for some reason
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chirpsythismorning · 7 months
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SHES PERFECT!!
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getlost0p · 4 months
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Little rovickie doodle and Vickie charm idea 🤔
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navnae · 1 year
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We’ve talked about Robin being able to spot Eddie having a crush on Steve but what about Vickie noticing that Steve has a crush on Eddie and Robin’s shocked because how could she not tell that her best friend has a crush on someone.
It all starts when the party is hanging out together and that means all of the older teens alongside the younger teens. All of them were at Steve’s house for a movie night which wasn’t out of the ordinary and they made that their routine for awhile. For some time Robin started inviting Vickie to these late night movie sessions because honestly the more the merrier and of course that would give everyone the opportunity to tease Robin a little about how flustered she gets around Vickie especially Steve. Nonetheless, Vickie fit in nicely with the group and every movie night was fantastic with endless amounts of fun. It was one night in particular where everyone was in their own world while talking amongst themselves and that’s when the conversation finally was brought up.
“So, how long have Steve and Eddie been dating?” Vickie whispered to Robin as they sat on the couch. Robin’s eye grew wide when she turned to face Vickie with nothing but confusion on her face. She laughed lightly at her girlfriend’s clear misunderstanding of Steve and Eddie’s friendship. Robin shook her head as she laughed.
“Oh they are not dating in the slightest. They’re just really good friends is all.” Robin explained simply. Vickie hummed in response as she nodded her head but Robin could tell that she didn’t quite believe her. Now Robin had al these thoughts in her head that wondered why would Vickie assume that, “What made you think that?”
“I don’t know. It’s just obvious that something is going on. Well, at least in Steve’s case that is.” Vickie shrugged as if she wasn’t saying that she could tell that Steve had some kind of feelings towards Eddie. Robin raised a brow when she started to understand what Vickie was implying.
“Wait… are you saying Steve likes Eddie?” Robin whispered the last part and Vickie only giggled in response. The way Robin looked like she saw a ghost, pure shock on her face once she started to connect the dots. Vickie managed through her giggling to nod and made Robin look towards the kitchen where the pair was having a conversation. When she started to analyze Steve’s behavior that’s when she finally saw it.
The way Steve would lean against Eddie whenever he laughed or when he would put his hand on Eddie’s arm randomly. What ever Edie would tell Steve it was easy to see the blush spread across his cheeks and he couldn’t hide it either. Robin couldn’t deny that Steve looked at Eddie in a way that she’s never seen before, he was truly captivated by him. She just sat there while trying gather her thoughts then she turned to Vickie who was still laughing at her expression. After all this time of them hanging out together Robin had no idea how she missed that her best friend had a crush on someone. Now she had that floating in her head when the night continued on and her eyes kept darting to where Steve and Eddie were, they were snuggled up at this point and it seemed like they didn’t really care if anyone noticed.
How could she not know?
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This is so shitty I’m sorry, I haven’t written something original in a hot minute. I hope this makes sense 😭
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sunflowersand-bees · 1 year
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What a fucking queen <33
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katimanki · 1 year
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🧡🤍💗 X 💗💜💙
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I KNOW HOW EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED THE RONANCE-BYLER PARALLELS BUT LOOK IT GETS MORE CLEAR
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SEE HOW ROBIN'S LOVE INTEREST IS ON THE RIGHT???
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SEE HOW WILL'S LOVE INTEREST IS ALSO ON THE RIGHT???
AND NOW
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I could like, go kms or something rn
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