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I'm gonna be honest for a second I'm pretty sure we actually do fit the criteria for OSDD-1b, but even if that's the case, I actually don't care for getting a diagnosis at all. Sure, there might be trauma to unpack, but that can be addressed without directly referring back to our plurality. Our system in and of itself doesn't bring us any distress, we don't have huge dissociative barriers, and whether we can be diagnosed or not has absolutely zero effect on our plural identity.
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#anti endos dni#plurality#plural system#endo safe#endogenic friendly#osdd#neurogenic system#adaptive system#positivity
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shout out to systems who don’t know a lot about their system
shout out to systems that don’t know their origins
shout out to systems that don’t know how many headmates there are
shout out to systems who don’t know if they’re median or multiple
shout out to systems that don’t know if they’re mono or poly conscious
shout out to systems who can’t tell who said what
shout out to systems who don’t know a lot about their system
#system#plural#fizzy plural#plurality#actually plural#plural system#mixed origins#mixed origin system#traumagenic system#traumatized system#neurogenic system#pluralgang#pluralpunk#median system#multiple system#endo safe
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even though our system was technically caused by trauma, we don't typically use traumagenic to describe ourselves. it feels like saying our trauma is what defines us, when that isn't the case. we're so much more than that now. we're a family. we've all helped each other and grown alongside each other. what i went through affects me much less now, because of them. and isn't that the purpose of a system like ours? to heal?
#system#plural#plurality#actually plural#system origins#adaptive system#neurogenic#neurogenic system#healthy multiplicity#non disordered system#anti endos dni#syscourse dni
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its the middle of the night and im bored out of my mind so… i made a tumblr. idk what to do on this site really but i want to find more endo/pro endo systems out there
mini introduction time ig. hi were petrichor/chorus - and im our host prairie!! collectively were a he/xe/it (and im a he/xe/it/she!). were a neurogenic + gateway + created system of 30+. main fronters are me, ranni, qq, and karl!! idk how active anyone else will be though. bodys 18!!
we’ll probably just post about either sys things, personal rambles, or whatever were into (current interests r ultrakill + elden ring!!)
fuck sysmeds/anti-endos, fuck maps. we dont have a dni just be nice
#sorry for all the tags just trying to find folks#endogenic#endogenic system#endo safe#endogenic safe#actually endogenic#neurogenic#neurogenic system#gateway system#plurality#plural system
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what's neurogenic?
neurogenic refers to a system created partially or wholly due to the brain's structure (and associated conditions like autism). it bears some similarity to protogenic in that many neurogenic systems believe they have been systems since birth, but a case could be argued that brain damage (and associated structural changes to the nervous system) could also cause a system to form.
at least that's how I understand it.
#sorry i have no idea how long this has been in my inbox. i only get like 50% of the notifications??#neurogenic#neurogenic system#please anyone else feel free to correct or guide me on this. my memory is Shit
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You should be believed.
You should be believed about yourself when you tell others.
You should not be interrogated about your own identity and your own problems just because you are that way.
You should be believed about who you are.
#endogenic#traumaendo#mixed origins system#enexto#endo safe#endo friendly#willogenic#plural#pluralgang#plurality#system positivity#neurogenic#mod gabie
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shoutout to mixed origin/multigenic/traumaendo/etc plurals whom use the label(s) not because different members have different origins, but because individual members come from a combination of multiple origins. Members that're both neurogenic & traumagenic deserve respect! Metagenic thoughtforms are important! Adaptive paragenic members deserve recognition! Not every plural member has just one origin affecting their appearance here - labels are descriptors, not cages!
#plural community#plurality#plural positivity#plural pride#multigenic#mixed origin system#traumaendo#metagenic#traumagenicinclusive#neurogenic#thoughtforms#adaptive system#paragenic#prism subsystem#pluralgang#plural
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Here’s some positivity for neurogenic systems!
“Neurogenic” is a broad label that refers to those whose plurality formed due to neurodivergence or mental illness. These systems have always been and will always be integral members of the plural community! Regardless of the specifics of how your system formed, if the neurogenic label resonates with your system, this one’s for you!
💖 Shoutout to systems who formed as a way to cope with depression, anxiety, a personality disorder, or the symptoms of some other mental illness!
🐾 Shoutout to systems with autism, ADHD, or other neurodivergences who became or have always been plural due to their neurodiversity!
🌻 Shoutout to systems with schizophrenia or who regularly experience psychosis whose hallucinations caused or are integral to their plurality!
🌀 Shoutout to systems who are questioning if they’re neurogenic!
💫 Shoutout to mixed origin systems who have neurogenic headmates!
🌱 Shoutout to neurogenic systems with members who are queer, trans, otherkin, nonhuman, POSIC+, or who have other identities or labels not considered “normal” by society!
🎈 Shoutout to systems who use the label “neurogenic” without knowing precisely how their system formed, just that it originated in their mind!
🌈 Shoutout to systems who are proud of their neurogenic origins, who talk about their experiences and advocate for neurogenic visibility!
✨ Shoutout to systems with dissociative disorders like DID or OSDD who consider themselves both traumagenic and neurogenic!
💜 Shoutout to closeted neurogenic systems, or neurogenic systems who use the quiogenic label - you don’t owe anyone any information on your system’s origins!
🌺 Shoutout to neurotraumagenic systems, and those whose personal trauma history and mental illness/neurodiversity have played equal roles in their system’s formation!
For all neurogenic systems, no matter what exactly was the catalyst that caused your system to form, you are a welcome and important part of our spaces just the way you are! Know that your system is real, your plurality is valid, and you make the plural community a brighter, more beautiful place by being here!
We hope that every neurogenic system and headmate out there can have a wonderful day today! You’re doing a great job and we are so very proud of you. Please do your best to take care of yourself and your system, and know that you are so loved and appreciated by those around you!
#multiplicity#plurality#pluralgang#actuallyplural#system positivity#plural positivity#plural pride#system pride#neurogenic#neurogenic positivity
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i just think it's really wild that people act like plural systems and DID don't exist at all when i saw it with my own two eyes growing up. my mom had it, i remember watching her switch and seeing a literal toddler talk out of an adult's mouth. it's just really weird that people act like it's this new internet phenomenon when it's really not, and if you know what to look for, you'd realize there are actually tons of systems all around you in every day life, not just on the internet.
a lot more people are systems than even realize it, too. my mom never knew formally about DID or plurality but i can 100% tell you with confidence i watched her become completely different people, with completely different voices, handwriting styles, body language and age ranges many, many times over the years, and not on purpose. i could tell my mom wasn't doing this on purpose. not always, but we are often times this way because our parents or guardians were.
#pluralgang#plural gang#actually plural#plural system#plural community#plural pride#plural positivity#system stuff#multiplicity#multiple system#systems#endo safe#endogenic system#endo system#osdd#did#dissociative identity disorder#mixed origin#neurogenic#quoigenic#spiritual system#gateway system
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MAJOR UPDATE: Questioning systems or systems in a doubt spiral pls read.
I recently told my therapist about potentially being a system. This was a scary move because she has previously had some iffy takes about systemhood. But I told her because I trusted that she would meet me where I was at and help me navigate , at the least, the general idea of not understanding my own brain if nothing else which I was ok with. I told her and it went as expected. I explained why I thought I might be a system but also the doubts I had about it and how it was distressing me to not understand myself. She agreed to use the language I was using for it and was happy to help me through (as is her job) and also because whether it was systemhood or not it was something in me that was trying to be seen and we would work on figuring out what it was.
Fast forward a few session, and I was going through another bout of "what the fuck even is my brain". I was starting to realize that my "systemhood" is very different from the things I've been seeing online. In the ways that it's different to other systems is:
- I'm always in the front, always in the captains chair
- I have no amnesia because I never switch out
- My hyper-vigilance never lets me dissociate fully though i definitely "check out" in my own way
- Head mates just feel like vague ideas or emotions
But the ways that are similar are:
- These vague ideas or emotions have opinions and feelings that are different from my own.
- Though they are vague, I can definitely tell they are separate from what I have come to understand as "me"
- I become "a different person" in the sense of my attitude, vibe, behavior, and opinions change from where they were 5 mins ago, but I am still me, just a different me.
Anyway, I was already trying to make sense of all of this and was not planning on talking about it with my therapist because nervous...
However, my therapist ask me about it first. She asked some clarifying questions about my partners system vs my own and how they are different. When I explained what I just wrote above to my therapist she said "Thats what I thought and I owe you an apology."
Basically, my therapist, like any good therapist should when confronted by something they don't know a lot about, had been doing research on complex forms of trauma and coping. Things in the same vain as CPTSD and Plurality including those two topics. She had specifically been reading a book called "The Body Keeps The Score" (TW it is a book about trauma and studies of trauma so it has details of case studies that some people may find incredibly triggering). I did some research on what exactly the book was talking about in regards to "systemhood" and from what I've found, chapter 14 at the end of a section called "Writing to yourself" and the first parts of chapter 17 have interesting information regarding systemhood and how its not entirely limited to things that are diagnosable like DID or OSDD. It seems to talk about how we all have several selves and trauma can get in the way of those selves communicating effectively. My therapist told me about this book and what she learned from it and apologized to me because the book made her realize that she was wrong and that I was in fact a system....
The session ended and I just kind of sat there... not sure how to feel but definitely feeling relief and validation.
After doing research on the book to write this I have some words of wisdom.
If you are a questioning system or are doubting your validity remember this: The human brain is so incredibly complex and no one actually understands how it does anything beyond its basic physical functionality... the conceptual abilities of our mind are a mystery. How we define self is just theory. If you don't fit into boxes, labels, identities, or diagnoses that does not mean your experiences aren't real. You are going to be ok. Understand YOUR mind and how it works for YOU, not through a label or diagnosis. If those things come later, great! Do not let them destroy you just because you don’t fit perfectly. I am a system. Simply. No types, labels, or diagnosis. I am a system. I have a unique experience because my brain is no one elses. I am a system. I may not have people in my head in the traditional sense but I'm also not alone up here either. I am a system. I am a system. I am a system. Nobody has the right to deny me this for they do not live behind my eyes.
As I understand myself: I am a system.
#median system#questioning system#plurality#system#actually plural#actual system#actually median#questioning median system#plural community#neurogenic
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Shout out to neurogenic systems!
(Pt: Shout out to neurogenic systems!)
Shout out to systems formed from trauma caused by neurodivergency
Shout out to systems formed to deal with symptoms of neurodivergency
Shout out to systems directly formed from neurodivergency, even if their neurodivergency isn't usually associated with plurality
Shout out to headmates with roles related to neurodivergency, like symptom holders
Shout out to systems that form tons of headmates related to their hyperfixation/spins
Shout out to systems who formed headmates in an attempt to understand neurotypical society!l
Shout out to systems formed from identity issues from BPD
Shout out to systems whose plurality is intertwined with delusions or hallucinations
Shoutout to systems formed from the paracosms in MADD/immersive daydreaming
Shout out to systems caused by neurodivergencies not mentioned here, sorry I didn't include ya :/
You're all valid, no matter what caused your system, and I hope you have a wonderful day!
#joypunk.txt#plural#endo safe#plural positivity#plural pride#pluralgang#pro endo#system#system positivity#neurogenic#bpd system#symptom holder#paragenic#dreamway system
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System Introduction
Hello, we're the Kazan World! We're an adaptive neurogenic system with a varying member count. Welcome to our blog! Our vision when starting this is to have a place to infodump about our system lore, and trust me, it goes deep.
To start, though, here's a simple introduction to who we are! We joined the plural community in November 29, 2020, though we've been a system for much longer. We'll go more in depth about our system origins at a later post. We're bodily 19, born in Brazil, transmasc, and collectively autistic with a special interest in geography.
We only include non-dormant members into our numbers count, though it typically varies somewhere between 15-50 active members. At the time of writing this post, our count is 18. We're introject-heavy and have members from various sources, mainly from anime. However, there are two groups you'll see most often: the host's family and our Hetalia introjects.
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Host's family
(also sometimes known as Kazan Family)
Niko - (they/them): We call them the host, but our definition isn't the typical one. They're a personification of our collective identity/singletsona, and also serve as a leadership figure in our system. The rest of the family sorta branched out from that initial identity (though we don't consider ourselves median), and now are the younger siblings of the host.
Nile - (she/they): Niko's twin and a former persecutor. She formed in mid 2019 at a time when our body had depression, and regularly acted out against the system since then. They took some time in isolation and only formally rejoined our system at the start of this year.
Angel - (fluid pronouns): Caretaker and former protector. It followed a similar story as the above, though in different ways. Angel and Nile used to see each other as enemies, but now they've become much closer.
Migi - (she/they): Originated as a concept of right brain. She emerged in February 2020 along with Hidari, and has always been one of the most regularly active headmates. They used to be an emotion holder.
Hidari - (any pronouns): Emerged in February 2020 along with Migi, as the equivalent concept of left brain. She finds pleasure in performing tasks, following orders and helping the system with organization.
Mica - (they/them): Memorygenic, the youngest of the family, and a big fan of Undertale.
Isav - (he/him): Memorygenic and a former host. He helped kickstart our special interest back in April 2021, and became the host for a sidesystem that eventually overtook the main system. Also very homosexual.
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Hetalia Introjects
Introjects from the anime Hetalia. They're personifications of countries and have exomemories based on the manga plus real historical events. We'd love to meet more people who know the source to be friends with, but please avoid questions relating to heavy events unless we willingly bring it up first. We have loads of introjects from the source, but here are a few who front most often:
Alfred/America - (he/him)
Arthur/England - (he/him)
Japan - (he/him)
China - (any pronouns)
Veneziano - (he/him)
Romano - (he/him)
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And that's it, it's nice to meet you all! Don't be shy to ask questions about our system, we love answering them ^^ Until next time 👋
#plurality#plural system#endo friendly#endo safe#pro endogenic#system intro#actually plural#neurogenic system#adaptive system
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A reminder that trauma can cause other than dissociative disorders, such as depression, schizophrenia, borderline etc and some of them can be a type of plurality, such as my system from diagnosed with delusional disorder and hallucinations
I’m traumagenic too!
#plural#system#endo safe#plural community#plural system#actually plural#pro endo#endogenic#endo system#endogenic system#neurogenic#traumagenic safe#plurality
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System is doing weird things right now and it's uncomfortable. Best way I can describe it is automatically purging headmates who haven't been active in a couple months to save space. It's normal and not a negative experience for us to lose members sometimes, but not on a large scale like this. My head hurts.
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Can you do the endo and traumaendo flags in the circles?
NOTE: I am mearly doing this as a request. This does not say my personal view on this type of discourse. I personally don’t care about discourse when it comes to this so do not bring this up to me.
Endogenic, Traumaendo, Traumagenic
Spirigenic, Xenogenic, Willogenic
Quoigenic, Neurogenic, Othergenic
DNI is listed within my pinned post. Please go read it before interacting with any part of my content. Ask to tag!
#🎨 post#liom#mogai#liomogai#system#plural system#plural#Endogenic#Traumaendo#Traumagenic#Spirigenic#Xenogenic#Willogenic#Quoigenic#Neurogenic#Othergenic#pride#pride emote#pride emoji#pride pixels#pride pixel#system emoji#plural emoji
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flag id: a flag with 7 stripes, which are light yellow-orange, red-orange, dark dull seafoam green, faded seafoam green, soft seafoam green, red, and dark pink-red. in the center of the flag is a faded seafoam green circle, a bit taller than the center 3 stripes, with the adhd butterfly symbol in brown within it. end id.
banner id: a 1600x200 teal banner with the words ‘please read my dni before interacting. those on my / dni may still use my terms, so do not recoin them.’ in large white text in the center. the text takes up two lines, split at the slash. end id.
cogadhdgenic: a system origin in which the random thoughts one has due to adhd seem like slightly different people, making almost every thought a headmate
[pt: cogadhdgenic: a system origin in which the random thoughts one has due to adhd seem like slightly different people, making almost every thought a headmate. end pt]
for @wut-igay! the flag is based on the adhdgenic flag, with the center green stripes representing each thought/headmate (based on the headmate, alter, and system member flags). the term is 'cog' from latin 'cōgitātiō' ('thought'), 'adhd', + 'genic'!
tags: @radiomogai, @liom-archive, @mad-pride, @narcette, @genderstarbucks, @sugar-and-vice-mogai | dni link
#cogadhdgenic#adhdgenic#neurogenic#system origin#system flag#system#plural flag#plural#mad pride#mad pride flag#mad flag#my flags#new flag#liom flag#liom term#liom
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