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endotxt · 2 months
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The plural experience of HEAD HURTY !!!!!!!! ALL THE TIIIME !!!!!!!!!!!!
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disaster-cryptids · 2 months
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Good day/evening to every system except the ones that participate in validity olympics. How a system experiences their plurality doesn't concern you.
-Legion
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old-daemon-farts · 5 months
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Try daemonism before tulpamancy
*pats the seat next to me* Come here and take a listen real quick.
If you are considering creating a headmate to help with
Loneliness
Depression
Stress
Life issues
Anything else related to support...
You'd be better off finding your daemon. Why? Because daemons are typically built for this; this is their specialty. They exist already as a part of you! They've lived your life, seen your struggles, and understand who you are and where you are coming from. They feel everything you feel, see everything you do, and know everything about you. They know what you need.
Another benefit? They can be their own unique individual while still remaining intrinsically tied to you, your life, and your well-being without the risk of being incompatible or your self-interest not aligning. Daemons are a part of you, so they go with the flow of our life without wanting major control or influence. Two sides to the same coin. A feather attached to the wing...
Another nice thing about daemons is when you aren't interacting they merge right back into you. They continue to exist just as they did prior to separation and will continue to be there until you call again. The less you interact the rustier the connection becomes, but you don't risk losing them. They may come back with new personalities or names if a long enough time has passed (because *everyone* changes with time, daemons are no exception) but they are still your daemon.
They still are there wanting the best for you. Wanting you to succeed, to thrive, to survive. They are our built-in support systems. Before creating and hoping to influence a headmate to be the answer, look into meeting your daemon first. See if they can provide what you need. Besides, it's often a far easier process than creating a fully separate headmate from scratch (in my opinion, at least).
Never heard of daemons? Check out Daemonism 101
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z0urcherri · 5 months
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This blog is a safe space for both willogenic and endogenic systems. Don't agree? Block and fuck off. We won't miss you.
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Here’s some positivity for willogenic systems!
Many systems formed through one member’s conscious choice to will the rest of their system into existence. This is absolutely a valid way for plurality to manifest, and willogenic systems are vital and important members of the plural community just the way they are! It’s okay to choose to be a system and to will other headmates into being. Here’s to all the willogenic systems!
🌲 Shoutout to willogenic systems who practice daemonism, paromancy, imagination-based plurality, or some other form of system creation!
☘️ Shoutout to hosts of willogenic systems who spend lots of time focusing and working with each of their headmates to help them achieve sentience!
🌟 Shoutout to willogenic systems who didn’t have to put much effort into creating their other headmates at all!
💜 Shoutout to recently formed willogenic systems!
🌲 Shoutout to mixed origins systems who are partially willogenic!
☘️ Shoutout to systems who are questioning whether or not they have willogenic origins!
🌟 Shoutout to willogenic systems who sometimes question their validity and deal with denial due to their system origins!
💜 Shoutout to willogenic systems who formed as a way to cope with loneliness, depression, anxiety, trauma, or something else!
🌲 Shoutout to willomates and willogenic headmates who sometimes struggle to feel conscious or sentient!
☘️ Shoutout to those who willed their system into existence without putting any conscious thought into it!
Willogenic systems are beautiful, amazing, and such integral members of the plural community! Our spaces simply would not be the same without willogenic systems - your plurality is complex, unique, and special in its own ways. To those who chose to will their headmates into being, we support your choices and are so proud of your efforts! And to those who came into being due to the will of one of their system members, we hope that life and existence bring you happiness and fulfillment!
If your system is willogenic (or you suspect that it is), please keep your chin up and take pride in your system and its origins! Know that you are so cherished and valued, and we truly wish the best for you and your system in all that you do! Do your best to take care of yourselves, and have a wonderful day today!
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cw// fakeclaiming, prejudice against non traumagenic headmates
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here are some sources on endogenic systems!
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syscourser · 1 year
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kpopwerewolf · 3 months
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All systems are welcome to interact!
Please do not vote if you are a singlet :)
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Disordered non-traumagenic system culture is being willogenic and disordered, and feeling so horrible about our existence because at first glance just by that info we are the literal arguement against endos and feel like we're betraying folks over something we literally cannot change.
Our disorderedness isnt even connected to us being willogenic, but that doesnt matter to folks. It makes us terrified to even say both of these in even pro-endo places (including here).
(Willogenic basically means created)
🐺 of 🔷️ co.
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sophieinwonderland · 5 months
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An Anti-Endo's Message for Willogenic Systems. Spoiler: Every Word is Wrong!
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Starting off with ableist accusations of delusions.
They also don't seem to understand that willogenic systems don't generally will themselves to develop DID.
Maybe they're thinking of transDID. 🤷‍♀️
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Accusations of DID faking stretch back a long time. Long before people started paying attention to endogenic and willogenic systems. And there's no evidence the existence of willogenic or endogenic systems has increased this.
In the infamous fakeclaiming McLean Hospital video, the people he used as examples from TikTok were mostly diagnosed traumagenic systems. In the incredibly flawed papers on "imitated DID," many of the case studies claimed to have trauma.
Also, I have it on good authority from many, many traumagenic DID systems that yes, DID systems can create alters.
Oh, and this gets even worse when you delve into the comments!
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Now, system isn't really a medical term, and definitely isn't strictly used for people with DID or OSDD.
See Internal Family Systems therapy, for instance.
And outside of that, it's been used in non-medical contexts by non-disordered systems for close to 30 years.
I covered this particular talking point more in my Syscourse Primer.
Aside from the general misinformation though, I also do want to draw attention to the general ableism of calling people you think are suffering from delusions "insane."
Something they double down on, while also saying willogenic systems need hospitalized.
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And they double down even further, saying that forced hospitalization is necessary for people.
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And I'll say that I don't completely disagree with this there being cases where it's necessary.
At least, I think there are some very, VERY extreme circumstances where people will need to be temporarily hospitalized, such as if they're an immediate danger to themselves or others. There may be no other choice. (Say, if someone has a delusion that they could fly and had plans to test it by jumping off of a roof to prove to people they could.)
Without any sort of immediate danger though, forced hospitalization is likely to do far more harm than good.
This should only be a LAST RESORT option
It's overused as it is. And guess what? The medical community doesn't just lock up anyone who has any sort of delusion!
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Not all delusions are harmful! Or, at least, not all delusions put someone at an immediate risk of causing harm to themselves or others.
And this is without touching on how "believing in something I don't like" isn't even a delusion.
At worst, the unfalsifiability of the claim puts this in the same realm as religion. You could just as easily apply this same logic to suggest anyone who feels the presence of God when they pray is delusional.
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Part of the reason this is sticky is... who determines who is of sound mind? What gives them the right to strip away an innocent person's rights?
Because like it or not, forced medical confinement is imprisonment without trial, when no laws have been broken. Even if there are extreme cases where this may be necessary, the standard for this needs to be a lot higher than it is now.
And notably, they're suggesting we need a lower standard where anyone with any sort of delusion, or anything they deem to be a delusion, should be forced into confinement.
That is completely unacceptable.
What's even more confusing though is that they seem to suggest in another comment that the thing that makes people "insane" is using the word "willogenic" instead of "tulpa."
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So it's not even wanting to lock people up for the belief they have people in their head...
But for calling them a word the OP doesn't want them to?
Imagine calling for people to have their rights stripped away and be forcefully confined because of disagreements over how a word is used!
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And maybe this is getting nitpicky now...
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But no they didn't...
They later showed a picture of this, where a willogenic anon asked how to BUY headmates. But they did not mention selling any.
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The actual owner of that account, as far as I know, didn't identify as willogenic.
Oh, and they also posted another image as "proof" of this which didn't mention buying or selling headmates.
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Oh, wait! That one is mine!
@artistry-andfandom
What was this screenshot even supposed to prove? Why did you use my post as an example of buying and selling headmates???
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[ID: Ten pixel ampersands of various flags in order being TraumaEndo and DID by monstersandco, OSDDID, Adaptive, Quoigenic, Spontaneous, Willogenic, OSDD, UDD, and inclusive plural. End ID]
All created by our spouse& @monstersandco via the same app we use. We will still add these to the rentry under spouse& made pixels :) They are willing to make people's personal system flags (possibly simplified depending on complexity) with this shape!
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endotxt · 1 month
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Stop faking DID you fucking attention seeker. You aren't even faking the right fucking symptoms. You dumb fuck. Kys
HELP???? We never said we had DID at all this is so funny omfg rfyuhbdskj brb i am CRYINGGG GYBFIUONDK
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misanth-sys · 3 months
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We wanted to say I think tulpas are very cool, I like them and if you’re a tulpa hello! Have a wonderful day. That’s cool you can make a little brain friend all by your own self. The tulpa community is very chill.
I don’t know if willogenic or parogenic are the same types of things as tulpas? Correct me if I’m wrong. But hey, still pretty cool. - Em
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varii-corvid · 2 months
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I think a lot of system self fake claiming can be refuted by the fact that plurality has noticeable neurophysical structural impact on the brain, endogenically and/or traumagenically. You and your headmates' existence affects your reality in a tangible way whether you realize it or not. Headmates physically exist as a matrix of neuronal structures and electrochemically rewire the brain. It's amazing how adaptive and powerful the brain can be. When I realized I could separate my consiousness into multiple sensoral-visual feeds and give them to my headmates, it blew my fucking mind. Plurality is a science and an art form. If you are feeling like you aren't real, know you have an impact on the people around you and someone will see the real you.
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tucuteboything · 1 year
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anyways :)
all systems/plurals/collectives are valid and that includes ones with origins you don't like :)
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Here’s some positivity for created systems!
While many systems formed spontaneously or as a result of trauma, there are many systems out there who were created as a conscious decision from the host, or someone inside! This is an incredibly important and valid plural experience, and this post is for those systems!
🔆 Shoutout to created systems who formed as a means to cope with loneliness, isolation, trauma, neurodivergence, disability, stress, or anything else!
💕 Shoutout to systems who had to devote lots of time, energy, and hard work into making your system what it is today!
✨ Shoutout to systems who were created through spiritual or metaphysical means!
🏵 Shoutout to those whose systems were created easily, whether on purpose or by accident!
🌿 Shoutout to tulpas, willomates, thoughtforms, soulbonds, and other headmates in systems who were created, whether consciously or unconsciously!
🌺 Shoutout to systems and headmates who use their own terminology or choose not to use labels to describe their creation!
💙 Shoutout to created systems who often doubt themselves, worry about being fakeclaimed, and sometimes struggle with their existence!
🌈 Shoutout to created systems who advocate for themselves and other created systems, and to those who have to mask for their own safety!
Listen - just because there is not much research into the existence of created systems does not mean that you are inherently wrong about yourself, your system, and what y’all experience. You know yourselves more than anyone else! If you truly believe you are plural, a system, or otherwise not alone in your own mind, please know that you are a welcome and integral part of the plural community just the way you are!
As always, we love y’all! We’re rooting for you! We believe in you! And we wish the very best for you! We may not be a created system ourself, but we want to stand up for and support y’all however we can. :)
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