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tgirlmouse · 8 months
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i don't feel nearly as ashamed or hesitant to talk about my queer tgirl attraction to men as my tguy brothers would feel talking about their attraction to women
obligatory "if you're a trans guy and your attraction to women is het, that's real and okay! your trans experience isn't a monolith and other trans people being different doesn't make you different or wrong"
like, think about it: hardly anyone bats an eye when a tgirl uses grindr or calls herself a faggot, but as soon as a man calls himself a lesbian, everyone gets on his ass. anything for an excuse to shit on lesbians, i guess. it makes me angry that nobody sees this hypocrisy or these ties back to the lesbian separatism that infected the community post-70s. it's not gone, it never went away
this isn't exactly profound news to anyone who gives a shit about lesbian history. just something i find interesting
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luzxii · 2 months
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If you start your debate with "bigender people who identify as both male and female aren't men they're bigender" you do not in fact support multigender people's identities
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1tz-4ll-m3 · 3 months
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If a label fits you, you have every right to use it. Even if it’s “contradictory”.
Being queer is not a club that people can exclude you from.
If your queer identity doesn’t hurt anyone, own it.
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Supporting mspec lesbians/gays, lesboys/turigirls, and other contradictory identities does not make you radqueer. If you support those things, you are in no way radqueer for it, because those identities are harmless and backed by a lot of history and culture (while radqueer identities aren't). Being inclusive does not make you radqueer. Radqueers are lying when they say no one will accept you, because most people are inclusive and they will all accept you <3
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kuchipatch1 · 2 months
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"We need more weird queers" Yall can't even handle bi lesbians
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doomgendr · 3 months
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lesbigay / bigayles flag
for people who use the labels bi, gay, and lesbian to pin down their complex attraction/identity!!
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higher quality + more versions on my twitter
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yourfavismspechomohet · 4 months
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love, there’s no such thing as a “bi lesbian.” someone can’t be bi and a lesbian. Coming from a lesbian myself it just doesn’t happen that way. Being a bisexual means that you like BOTH, being a lesbian means you ONLY like non men. It’s a mockery of real lesbians, it’s not a real sexuality.
Let’s take this apart separately, shall we?
“There’s no such thing as a Bi Lesbian”
Tell that to all the Bi Lesbians that follow me, and like my posts, and request for posts.
Tell that to the Bi Lesbians I reblog from and talk to occasionally.
Tell that to the older queers that identify as Bi Lesbians.
I guess apparently they don’t exist then. 🤷
“Someone can’t be Bi and a Lesbian”
Ah, this is a very popular one on this blog that I keep getting. I could link you to those, but I won’t. Here’s some ways you can be Bi and a Lesbian at the same time:
Biromantic Homosexuals
Homoromantic Bisexuals
Bi people who label themselves as Lesbians, to reclaim queer history. Because ALL Sapphics, regardless of if they were attracted to men or not, were referred to as Lesbians.
Bi people may also label themselves as Lesbians to reclaim being called a Lesbian by Biphobes trying to get them to pick one.
Bi people who lean more towards women, may call themselves Bi Lesbians.
Abroromantics/Abrosexuals may label themselves as Bi Lesbians because their orientation only swings back and forth between those two.
“Coming from a Lesbian myself, it just doesn’t happen that way.”
Well, for the second part, “It doesn’t happen that way”, just go back to the previous comments on “Someone can’t be Bi and a Lesbian”. It does and can happen.
Now for the first part “Coming from a Lesbian myself”. I hear this a lot. Not just from Lesbians, not just from queer people, but people of all different communities, one thing I hear all the time is “Coming from a [Blank] myself”. You need to understand that you are not the only Lesbian on earth. And Lesbians are not a hive-mind. You’re not all the same, and you’re not all going to have the same opinions. If that were the case, all Lesbians would look, talk, act the same way, and have the same views. But you don’t, because you’re not a hive-mind. Simply implying that all people of the same sexuality should have the same opinions is wrong. Believe it or not, I’ve seen all different kinds of lesbians who were Pro-Mspec Lesbian, who were Anti-Mspec Lesbian, and were neutral on Mspec Lesbians. And if all Lesbians had the same opinions, you would not be separated on these different opinions.
“Being a bisexual means that you like BOTH, being a lesbian means you ONLY like non men.”
Being Bi means that you could just about like any gender. It doesn’t just mean both, as in men and women. Bi people could definitely just be attracted to women and men, but they’re also Bi people attracted to all different kinds of genders under the Nonbinary umbrella.
As for being a Lesbian, it means that you’re attracted to women and Nonbinary people. And if we can agree on that, we also have to agree that there are other Nonbinary genders where one identifies as a woman AND a man, that you may also be attracted to. Saying that Lesbians don’t like men excludes Multigender people. Even if that’s not how you mean for it to sound, I can tell you that a lot of Multigender people feel that way.
Also, a common misconception is that Non-Men and Non-Women is okay to use for Gay and Lesbian definitions. It’s not. What you probably didn’t know, is that the terms have racist origins. Black and indigenous queer people have literally been talking about this since this definition was coined. “Non-Men” and “Non-Women” are terms that have been historically used to describe the degendering of black people.
Forcing these terms for queer definitions is Anti-Black, I could forgive you if you didn’t know that and stop using those definitions after now knowing the origins.
But if you still use these definitions even after knowing this, congratulations! You’re racist! Pretty sure there was a book about this, “Bad faith and anti-black racism” by Lewis R. Gordon.
“It’s a mockery of real lesbians, it’s not a real sexuality.”
Mspecs have just as big a part in Lesbian history as Lesbians.
All sapphics were Lesbians regardless of if they liked men.
The term “Bi Lesbian” has been around since the 70s. I’d like to see you try and tell an older queer Bi Lesbian, that they’re “mocking” Lesbians and that their sexuality isn’t real. They probably accomplished more than you have in your entire life, because you want to fight with people on queer labels that you think are and aren’t valid because apparently no queer identity is acceptable unless you agree with it.
Love, wether you like it or not, Bi Lesbians and even male Lesbians have always existed and will continue existing. And they don’t need your permission to be themselves.
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noahizslay · 1 month
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mspec lesbians, mspec gays, lesboys, turigirls, straightbians, straightcians and other mspec monos, as well as, afab transfems, amab transmasc and other "controversial" labels are valid as fuck!
y'all should understand that genderfluid, multigender, varioriented and intersex people exist and their experiences towards their sexuality/romantic orientation and their gender is unique and should be celebrated not hated.
if you don't understand any of these labels, educate yourself and please be kind to people. in the end of the day we are all human beings and we all deserve to be respected.
bye my dear humans :)
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canine-abomination · 2 months
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Anti mspec mono people know that mspec doesn't always mean "attraction to men and women" right. I mean obviously other queer people understand that labels can be complex and have multiple definitions. RIGHT??
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has anyone done this yet
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haunted-thing · 5 months
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Image id: rectangular flag with seven stripes that are, in order, : medium purply magenta, pinkish purple, lavender, pale reddish orange, orangy red, medium pinkish red, dark redish magenta/end id
pt: metian/end pt
metian
being both an mspec lesbian and mspec straight for whatever reasons .
taglist: @puriette , @jiiamp , @squidedibles , @idolkisses, @ithriel
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lesboyofdeath · 3 months
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Mspec lesbians: I am a lesbian, I am also attracted to men
Exclusionists on tumblr dot com: so you think all lesbians should kiss men?? Even the ones who aren’t attracted to them??? Kys.
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1tz-4ll-m3 · 3 months
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If our queer ancestors saw the amount of queer discourse there is online, fighting over labels and who’s valid and who isn’t, when nobody is getting hurt, they would be very disappointed.
I’m just saying.
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luckytheburger · 5 days
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"Homoromantic bisexuals are valid but bi lesbians aren't" so close! You are actually just Fucking Stupid
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xxcalicofemmexx · 1 month
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bi lesbian wallpapers! ft. the og bi lesbian flag, my beloved 💖💖
Bi Lesbian: Someone who identifies as bi and a lesbian. An intentionally vague term, for a broad umbrella that community can gather under. Mostly used by multigender, genderfluid, and otherwise nonbinary individuals, though it is not a closed label.
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