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silly-media-enjoyer · 8 months
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Image Description: The "I bring a sort of X vibe to X that X don't really like" edited to say "I bring a sort of all these rules are made up vibe to sexuality and gender that exclusionists don't really like"
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queerbatting · 1 year
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people need to realize that dissolving the lines between gender also means dissolving the lines between sexuality. you cannot say gender is fake and then say sexuality is strict and rigid.
there are multigender/genderfluid people who are lesbians and gay men at the same time. there are mspec lesbians/gays/straights who have a complex relationship with gender and their sexuality. there are gay men who are women and lesbians who are men because male isn't the opposite of female.
"conflicting" labels are a part of many people's queer experience, because the human experience isnt simple enough to be put into neat perfect categories. if you truly support trans/genderqueer people, you need to accept the fact that gender and sexuality is complex and there will be people whose identities you don't understand
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bisexualsafespace · 5 months
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We don’t owe you simplicity.
Good.
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icarusxxrising · 7 months
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moonshinedyke · 6 months
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I am literally fucking BEGGING you all to also acknowledge the racism behind the terms "non-man" and "non-woman" and how they're used in queer definitions.
Black and Indigenous queer people have literally been talking about this since the definition was COINED but there's literally NO acknowledgement of this when pointing out why "non-men loving non-men" and "non-women loving non-women" are shitty fucking definitions to force on a whole community.
"Nonman" and "nonwoman" are terms that have been historically used to describe the degendering of black people in society. And words can obviously be used to mean different things- we don't have to stop using these terms altogether. But forcing these terms on a whole community of queer people is really fucking antiblack.
Not to mention that it blatantly degenders a lot of 2S lesbians and gays as well. It basically tells them that they can't be 2S and as a lesbian or gay at the same time, because then they would be "contradictory." I seriously hope I don't have to explain how racist it is to exclude a large portion of Two-Spirit people from your queer label because they don't fit into your neat little white gender binary.
Like these definitions aren't bad to use for yourself personally- but stop forcing them on all lesbians/gays. And if you're advocating for why these shouldn't be used as the most prominent definition, PLEASE acknowledge the racism aspect of it.
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antisocialbimbo · 8 months
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Shoutout to the coolest motherfuckers around
- AMAB (trans/enby) lesbians
- Masc presenting transfem AMAB ppl
- Lesgays / Gaybians / Fagdykes
- AFAB intersex transfems
- AMAB intersex transmascs
- AFABS who are transfem anyway and AMABS who are transmasc anyway
- Transmascfems / Transfemmascs
- ALL transneutrals
- Mspec gays & lesbians
- Lesboys / Gaygirls / Velaurians
- FTM mothers
- MTF fathers
- Neopronoun users
- Xenogender users
- MTF Femboys and FTM Tomboys
- Loveless aromantics / Romance repulsed aros
- Aplatonics / Aplatonic spectrums
- Lesbians with Bfs
- Gays with Gfs
- She/Her Gays
- He/Him Lesbians
- Any enby who uses he or she pronouns
- Transsexuals
- Invisibly disabled queer and trans people
- Visibly disabled queer and trans people
I LOVE YOU ALL SO SO MUCH PLEASE NEVER STOP BEING YOURSELVES 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
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tgirlmouse · 7 months
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i don't feel nearly as ashamed or hesitant to talk about my queer tgirl attraction to men as my tguy brothers would feel talking about their attraction to women
obligatory "if you're a trans guy and your attraction to women is het, that's real and okay! your trans experience isn't a monolith and other trans people being different doesn't make you different or wrong"
like, think about it: hardly anyone bats an eye when a tgirl uses grindr or calls herself a faggot, but as soon as a man calls himself a lesbian, everyone gets on his ass. anything for an excuse to shit on lesbians, i guess. it makes me angry that nobody sees this hypocrisy or these ties back to the lesbian separatism that infected the community post-70s. it's not gone, it never went away
this isn't exactly profound news to anyone who gives a shit about lesbian history. just something i find interesting
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ppl who support xenogenders and general genderfuckery but draw the line at mspec gays are so fucking confusing to me. like yess destroy gender expectations be free express yourself in concepts but if you try to put a pinky toe outside of what i consider an acceptable sexuality i will smite you
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asunnycoffee · 3 months
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I’m actually so tired of the way twitter gays will be like “you’re bi and date nonbinary people? You’re gay and go both ways?? Youre aromantic but date people? That doesn’t make ANY sense.”
Like seriously do you not know what this community is about. The literal definition of queer means peculiar. Sometimes queer people are fucking weird and messy and don’t make sense and sometimes and it’s both confusing and beautiful. Some of you will literally be like “um there’s no such thing as bi lesbians” yet you still have the sheer and utter fucking audacity to be like “I love weird gays!”.
Yeah, you sure love your sanitized version of what it means to be queer. You don’t actually know what it means, you just think “lesbian means girls who like girls, gay means boys who like boys, bi means people who like girls and boys, and-“ when the entire fucking point of it is that not everyone fits into the boxes you assign them. Exclusionists can go eat a dick.
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murielsbottombitch · 8 months
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the progressive leaving people's body when they hear about mspec gays, he/him lesbians, she/her gays, multigender people, oriented aroaces, xenogenders or any other "weird" queer label:
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y'all care so much about queer people until we aren't queer in a way that aligns with your binary world view
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doomsdayradio · 4 months
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i love you mspec lesbians and bi lesbians and pan lesbians and omni lesbians and ply lesbians and abro lesbians and mspec gays and bi gays and pan gays and omni gays and ply gays and abro gays and mspec straights and bi straights and pan straights and omni straights and ply straights and abro straights and abros and gaybians and lesboys and trans man lesbians and turigirls and trans woman gays and enbyhets and aplatonics/aplspecs
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miraculouslumination · 9 months
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Just because twitter is collapsing and we'll probably be getting an influx of users coming back with extreme terf/exclus brain fungus;
Mspec lesbians and mspec gays are not your enemy!! They are not Ruining the Sanctity of lesbianism or gayness. They are not the reason why cis men are lesbophobic, and they are not why bigots can't take gay people seriously
They are NOT a community that uses a label made to describe a lesbian who is attracted to trans women. It was not made by terfs. It is a label that is largely used by queer people with a beautifully complex sense of sexuality, and/or oftentimes gender identity/identities
Mspec lesbians and mspec gays are simply a subset of the lesbian and gay community, much like the asexual lesbians, or aromantic gays, or the trans* lesbians or the non-he/him gays. These are diverse communities, and have been for decades, even centuries.
No one in the mspec lesbian and mspec gay communities are demanding anyone to do anything, especially in regards to a stranger's own sexuality. All they ask for and want is understanding, respect, and care. Just like the rest of us - just like you.
Mspec lesbians and mspec gays are people who have probably gone through a lot of inner reflection on who they are and what label they want. As you most likely have, as well, and so have I.
We all start off with the same question - "what am I?" - it's just that we all end up with our own answers, each one similar and different to each other.
We are a community. A family. Having a kneejerk "but!! My feelings!" is inevitable, especially with the more complex or obscure things, but that is something that should be temporary and then let go.
Do not let that hook of fear dig into you, because it won't lead you toward the bright future you want.
Fight it, open your mind, and listen to us
The world is always weirder than you think
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silly-media-enjoyer · 8 months
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reminder that being queer is not a medical condition and you don't have to fit in a specific set of symptoms to use certain labels. just call yourself whatever you'd like even if you don't fit in the commonly accepted definition.
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myceliumbutch · 9 months
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You say you want a "radical counter culture gay movement" but you're too busy arguing about identities that make you mad!! You've missed the whole point!!
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icarusxxrising · 7 months
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If you were someone who was anti-Ace during Ace Discourse and anti-Neopronouns/Xenogenders during Neo/Xeno Discourse and anti-Nonbinary during Nonbinary Discourse, but you've now accepted those things, except now you're Anti-Bi Lesbian, then you never learned why what you were doing was wrong and simply followed the crowd.
You still have internalized phobias that you never addressed, you still have issues regarding controlling other people's queer experiences, and until you actually and genuinely sit back and realize WHY being Anti-Ace, Anti-Neos/Xenos, Anti-Nonbinary etc. Was wrong, you are always going to be the bigot in the community. Learn self introspection, learn why you continued to be against queer identities you didn't understand, or you will always find yourself on the wrong side of the goalpost, and you will never grow.
Take a second to think about an argumentative sentence you've used and replace "bi lesbian" with any other queer identity you used to hate and you'll realize that at the root of it all, it's the same queerphobia but with a new subject to target.
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sapphic-boy · 4 months
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Who's gonna get kicked out of the pride meetup first
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