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kizzys · 2 years
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The Byers-Hopper siblings in Stranger Things 4 Vol.1
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erikiara80 · 27 days
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You didn't really think we were working out of a shed, did you?
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Upside-down horseshoes and rainbows
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Light bulb in the shed, light bulb in El's closet
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Remember? No, I don't think they remember
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He's been chasing after the wrong kid
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Will! Hopper! Or maybe, Will Hopper?
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Breath, Will, come on!
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She wasn't breathing. Remember to breath
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Hopper says that he saw Sarah, and the next morning Joyce sees Will
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Thanks for joining us, and Sarah's drawing. Right after Will's vanishing
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Memories that are not your memories
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Time trickery and experiments on kidnapped kids, whose parents' brains MKUltra has turned to mush
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But Will says that he and El will fix it together. Hopper's cabin, or maybe their family
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gally6612 · 1 year
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So I was watching The Grinch who stole Christmas when I noticed something....
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Is it just me or does Cindy Lou Who look like young Chrissy Cunningham?
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hitchell-mope · 1 year
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Argyle: oh yeah, the five love languages
(He points at Mike and Jane who are wrapped around each other like koalas)
Argyle: touch starved
(He points to Lucas and Max who are tearfully giving each other compliments)
Argyle: my parents never told me they were proud of me
(He points to Dustin and Suzie who are talking about buying a computer like it’s a house pet)
Argyle: I love stuff
(He points to Jonathan and Nancy who are each on their eighteenth cup of black coffee)
Argyle: I’m so fucking tired god please just let me rest for five minutes
(He points to Jim and Joyce who are desperately trying to talk to each other about an unknown subject that may or may not be the upside down)
Argyle: hey pay attention to me
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gayofthefae · 3 months
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Okay the step-family thing has always been my favorite Jopper thing ever because Joyce really went all in with her feelings after Hopper died and it's hilarious "this is my daughter through marriage. No I didn't marry her father that's not important" "so you WEREN'T having detailed fantasies about railing me? damn, i thought we had something" but that isn't the point the POINT is
Are they...married? I mean like...no, obviously, he didn't sign any paperwork or anything but...like Owens DOES have connections he got that adoption shit done and so like as part of their whole witness protection situation thing...I just made a post but then it prompted the question is Hopper Will and Jonathan's step-dad?? I mean, El is their step-sister so....yes, right?
My main point here, though, is that Hopper does not know Joyce did that and that is hilarious to me. Like he gets back and she's just been claiming the title of "widow" this whole time and now what is their family situation lmao
They need to get married in season 5 if only because it is legally confusing if they don't.
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will80sbyers · 2 years
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do you understand how much I love all the good stranger things characters? I don't think you do
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myfandomistingling · 2 years
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Joyce Hopper:"I AM COLD AND ANNOYED AND I JUST WANT MY BOYFRIEND BACK, SO FUCK OFF YOU COMMIE PIGS!!!!"
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idiopath-fic-smile · 1 year
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this song is the 24th song @greenlikethesea or i have written set in the universe of @greatunironic's the most remarkable thing about you standing in the doorway is that it’s you. if my math and counting are correct, we have 44 more to go before we've written songs for every canonical original The Shotguns track from 1990-2003.
thanks to @bienmoreau, of course, for the album art!
it probably goes without saying that this is a song largely about Joyce. you get the sense that The Most Remarkable Thing's Eddie is super impressed with her. being so driven by love that she was willing to risk absolutely everything to drag her son back from the worst place imaginable...i mean, that's pretty fucking metal. Eddie probably learned a lot about love from Joyce just in general.
I departed from the aesthetics of this project a little, in that i tried to get the little percussion thing at the end by tapping on my guitar but the recording of that just didn't sound right so i ultimately used a Garage Band setting. if you know morse code, you'll see what i did but also you can probably guess ;)
Lyrics under the cut!
Her love is a beacon her love is an anchor her love is a fortress her love is in danger
She paces outside and they judge her and hate her anyway, anyway
But the flickering lights, she keeps in her sights
They urge her onward, to- night's the night
She strings up the bulbs she watches the walls she trusts in her lastborn she waits for the call
A storm is advancing the mightiest squall run away, run away
But the flickering lights they go dark and bright
Say he's not gone, so she stands and fights
I write about longing my ev'ry word reaches Our lady of hope has so much more to teach us
How love can create such a powerful creature in all ways, in all ways
And the flickering lights, they say that she's right
Forces that took him shall feel her bite
And the flickering lights, she keeps in her sights
they urge her onward, to- night's the night...
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flaringgoosebumps · 2 years
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Dear Vecna
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I forgot to include Lonnie but Vecna pls take him instead
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shipperssafehaven · 1 year
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my season five dream team ups bc i'm bored and have too much time on my hands
1. will/mike/robin/nancy
this group is literally what dreams are made of. first, you get a continuation with the ultimate slow burn that is byler. second, you get ronance which is always a plus & possibly a jealous nancy when vickie is added into the mix. third, you get nancy/mike sibling bonding for the first time in what feels like forever. and fourth, you get a will/robin "you're like me" moment. the power this group holds would be magical.
Give me a frightened & an adorably idiotic Will who is seeing visions and clocks but doesn't want to worry anyone so he keeps it to himself because everybody else already has so much going on. Let him space out at the Wheeler house only to be caught by Nancy.
Then it proceeds with Will begging her not to tell anybody but Nancy snitches to Mike because she knows the drill and is not letting another kid die on her watch. And since she's avoiding both Jonathan and Steve because she wants to know who she is outside of them, she ropes Robin in to help instead, leading to a limitless amount of gayness <3 (bc as much as i am excited to learn about vickie, i don't really have the desire to see robin with her clone).
Give me a terrified Mike who's scared to lose Will and is angry because Will actually wanted to keep him in the dark about this. Give me the most queer fight in tv history:
"i can't believe you weren't going to tell me this. this isn't a game-- you could die, will! just because you got out once, doesn't mean you'll make it out alive this time around!"
"you aren't even trying to see my side of things! if I have a connection to vecna then that gives me the perfect opening to end this once and for all!"
"there is no ending this, will! he's going to kill you!"
"that's a risk i'm willing to take."
"well, i'm not!"
2. el/lucas/dustin/erica
i really want to see el outside of mike and pairing her up with lucas/dustin/erica would do just that. dustin teaching her things and erica teaching her how to properly put her bullies in their place >>>
plus we'd get the best sibling duo that is erica and lucas. if i don't get a protective lucas who's going through it and afraid of losing his little sister (since he technically already lost someone he loved) then i'll riot
and don't forget the lucas/el bonding we'd get that would also feed into my elumax delusions. them teaming up to get max back and slowly bringing each other back to themselves & just being so vulnerable and happy in one another's company is a need
oh and as a treat, if dustin and erica stumble across kas in the upside down and it looks too much like a certain metal head so they have no choice but to get to the bottom of things on whether eddie's death truly meant the end... then i'd be down for that
3. jonathan/steve
i've been waiting for this one since season one. i want them to be forced to work together and go from reluctant allies to i'd lay my life down for you without hesitation
let them have development outside of nancy! let jonathan accidentally meet steve's neglectful parents and have him understand steve. let steve have the absolute displeasure of meeting lonnie and calling him out when he talks down to jonathan & say "you didn't want him as a son? no, you didn't deserve him as a son!" let jonathan be on the verge of tears bc nobody has ever stood up for him like that before.
these two could learn so much from each other. let steve teach jonathan how to work his damn way around a tie. and let jonathan teach steve what it's like to have a family and that it is in fact not normal to be so brushed to the side and disregarded by your own parents.
let them be BEST FRIENDS. the potential has literally been there from the start!
and for the love of god give me this moment:
"i never thanked you for the camera you got me for christmas back in '83."
"i told nancy not to tell you it was from me."
"she didn't."
oh and if argyle is not tagging along and bringing up the mood and smoking pot with the both of them, then i don't want it. they'd be a trio for the ages.
4. joyce/hopper/enzo/murray/wayne
probably my most basic answer but i am in desperate need for established jopper fluff with their besties tagging along for the ride. and i have been a bring wayne munson into the gang truther since volume one so i am DYING to see this.
hopper and wayne bonding over losing a kid.
enzo, murray, and joyce being a comedic trio.
them all being badass and saving their kids. murray giving byler a much needed moment of clarity. jopper having moments with el, will, & jonathan. enzo introducing to the gang his son (who possibly becomes a member of the party.) wayne completely crumbling when he sees kas for the first time.
the potential of it all... 🥂
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winter-bitch · 1 year
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stray st twitter posts that never made it to tiktok
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foreverautumn89 · 10 months
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@rainingongallifrey
Stonathan at the Jopper wedding, Stonathan proposal and Stonathan wedding I talked about doing is just headcanons just to remind you. I don't want to disappoint if you expect a story and its just headcanons. Don't hate me.
🫣
PS: Also working on the family camping trip that includes Stonathan/Stoncy/Jancy which is one major factor in what is taking the wedding ones so long to post. Plus there is a lot going into the weddings ones and Lonnie shows up to start shit so of course its taking longer.
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erikiara80 · 11 months
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Hint in S3 that Joyce and Hopper were probably a couple in the original timeline
At the beginning of S3, Hopper asks Joyce out, but she declines. That evening, she watches an episode of the sitcom Cheers where a woman named Diane (like Hopper’s wife), tells her friend that a man, Frasier, asked her to marry him after he drank some Chianti. 
Screenshots credits to @chirpsythismorning​ Tagging you too @lilitblaukatz​ and @shippingfangirl013​ 
In the sitcom, Diane leaves Frasier at the altar. Joyce never shows up at the restaurant. And she and Hopper have been separated by everything, from evil scientists to time manipulation. 
But it’s the name Diane and the mention of Chianti, imo, the hint that Hopper and Joyce were together, and that they were a family at some point in the past.
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Then there’s a flashback of Joyce and Bob. When I rewatched this scene, knowing what we know now about Vecna and timelines/time loop theories, I nearly spat out my tea.
Bob: They’re funny. I just wish they’d just get back together again already (Joyce: Me too)
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He doesn’t say I hope they get together soon. They were a couple in the past. And Diane and Hopper had a child...
Also, in 3x02 Hop gets really drunk with Chianti. 
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But there are many other hints.
Some of my favorite
This one is insane, lmao.
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Joyce’s line in one of the S1 flashbacks: I don’t know who’s been raising you. Then the transition from Will’s drawing (the fireballs/cabbages) to a close up of Hopper’s eyes.
All the Will-Sara parallels in S1. But especially this one. It’s like Hopper is watching Will dying here.
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This
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Joyce calling Will, then Hopper. It’s interesting, because it really seems like she’s saying Will Hopper.
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In 2x04, Will tells Joyce and Hopper that now he knows things that he never did before, and has memories that aren’t his memories. He’s talking about the possession, but if Jopper were together and then they were separated because of a time loop or brainwashing, this scene could be another way to hinting at the truth.
Also: My theory is that Sara is an altered memory and is actually Will or the combination of Will and El, Hopper’s kids, that the lab made him believe he lost. MKUltra was known for this kind of brainwashing.
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Twin imagery. In every season. And always connected to Will, El, Joyce and Hopper. I think Jon is really Lonnie’s son-the reason he’s the only one who mentions him. And that Lonnie is the “Biff” of Stranger Things.
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I also love that in S3 and S4 Hoppr and Joyce keep saying things like Let’s call our children, our kids are in danger... I mean, it makes sense, but IF Joyce and Hopper are Will and El’s parents, when we’ll rewatch the show, we’ll realize that the truth has always been there, from the beginning, like David said. And it’s beautiful.
Not a Willel twin post, but here some gifs of those moments: Joyce, Jim and their kids
The school scene has so many hidden hints
This is why I don’t think they’re misdirects. Along with the big hints we’ve seen throughout the show, there are also many small things that we can only notice if we pay attention. 
The hat of the boy behind Will is an Beatlejuice Easter egg. It looks like the hat of Winona Ryder’s character, Lydia. So this could mean: Will and El between Joyce and Hopper. The kids and their parents. 
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We see the same boy with Winona’s hat later (the boy under the arrow is important too, lol) and a girl with a school project about the Wright Bros. Yep. Will and El are the (W)right bros. But we already know that they’re siblings. El lives with the Byers. Nothing new. So why these hidden hints if it’s something we already know? Maybe because Will and El and Will are actual siblings.
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The presentation scene is crazy. 
Here “Joyce” and mini-Hopper in his cabin, mom and dad, but this time there’s also something more specific. A pic of the Tower Bridge on the wall that is paralleled to the two trees connected by a string in the diorama: twin imagery.
And the kid who looks at us with the school project about the father of microbiology.
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Anton van Leeuwenhoek, the father of microbiology. One of his main discoveries: spermatozoa. But there’s more. The shirt of the kid behind Will. Maybe I’m delusional, but doesn’t it look like a DNA filament? 
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So, the (W)right Bros, DNA filaments, the father of microbiology who discovered spermatozoa, Hopper, “Joyce”, Will and El. We even get some Twelvegate crumbs, because it’s 11 o’clock, so the minute hand is on the 12.
I don’t think these are coincidences or things they put there just for fun. In fact, speaking of DNA filaments, there’s also this shot in S1. Joyce and El are talking about Will in a classroom with microscopes (twin imagery again) a DNA filament (biological mom?) and that tape that makes it look like Joyce is tied up... Possible hint that she was part of the program, too. 
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And later we actually see Joyce handcuffed and we get this disturbing shot, that could mean that Brenner did something during Joyce’s pregnancy. He interfered. And then he took her girl away from her. 
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Some thoughts
If all this is true, maybe Brenner chose this family because of Agent Orange. Or maybe part of Hopper’s story is true. After she had Jon with Lonnie and left him. Hopper wanted kids too, but didn’t tell Joyce about the risk of having children with him, and he contacted the wrong doctor to help them. A parallel with the Creels, only Hopper didn’t call Brenner because he wanted to get rid of his kids. Quite the opposite. But the result is the same. And Hopper, like Victor, feels cursed. 
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I just find it interesting that it’s always Hopper who makes deals with the lab and convinces Joyce to agree. 
At the lab in S1, she yells at Brenner: You took my boy away from me! But I’ve always found it a bit weird. At least in this timeline, it’s the Demogorgon that took Will. So while I understand what Joyce means, it makes more sense if this is a clever reference to the timeline of the article at the end of the season, the one when Will was actually at the lab, or a hint that Brenner took her daughter away from her, not Will.
If the theory is correct, all these hints could be used in flashbacks in S5, to explain everything. And show that the truth was always there.
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More hints because, why not? lol
A hidden hint at Will and Hopper connection at the end of S3 and S4
And after another mention of Chianti, Joyce and Hopper almost make out in Russia and then they’re twinning.
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This post about MKUltra, Joyce and Terry 
Also this post  
This one about El and blonde sisters, or this one
March 22. Will’s birthday. Joyce says it twice. This could be a reference to Henry, who’s possessing Will in S2. But imo, it’s also about the other kid that was born on that day. El.
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Twin imagery everywhere. I’m sure it’s also related to the Martin/Richard Brenner and Henry/Edward mystery. But Hopper, Joyce and their kids have been front and center from episode one. So this is about them too. It’s all connected.
And speaking of Russia and making out, lol.
At the beginning of S4, Joyce opens the doll that Murray says could be pregnant with an explosive device. A mom with her kids, a boy and a girl, stare at her, confused. 
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A few episodes later, Owens says this: ‘It’s a fancy bomb. We used to store them in these silos, but we haven’t used this one in years. In fact, there is no bomb here at all. So we repurposed it to hold something much more powerful than a missile. You.’ Oh, after jokes about working out of a shed.
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So, Joyce has a doll that could be pregnant with a bomb but isn’t. And then we learn that one of the silos that were used to store bombs has been repurposed for El, who’s not a bomb but something more powerful.
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And the doll is actually “pregnant” with the proof that Hopper is alive. 
Imo, the mention of pregnancy connects Joyce, Hopper and El. And the boy and the girl that stare at Joyce when she breaks the doll could mean that Joyce was pregnant with two powerful children.
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rainingongallifrey · 10 months
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Wait what is Lonnie doing there?
@foreverautumn89 I remember its head canons I'm still excited anyway. But-But-But why are you TORTURING ME? Why is Lonnie going to be there ruining the Jopper and/or Stonathan weddings?
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Please just let them have happy lives and don't invite Vecna to this thing either. If Lonnie ruins either wedding, I'm going to riot.
Oh wait...El is going to be there. She'll make things right and throw him through a wall.
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hitchell-mope · 1 year
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Some modern au headcanons
Mike played Ted and Karen against each other one Christmas and got two iPhones. Purely so he could give one of them to Jane.
Jane loves the spy kids and shrek franchises. Most for Antonio Banderas.
Dustin roped Steve and Max into watching supernatural with him. Dustin watches it for the lore. Steve watched it for the car and the ladies. Max watches it for Jared Padalecki. None of them like the roadkill in the trench coat though
Lucas in the only on in the party who can cook competently if he has to. Max can work a water tap. Dustin can shake down a vending machine. Mike can make waffles. Jane can eat the waffles. Will can burn toast
Will’s most watched film on Netflix and Disneyplus is the Peanuts movie. He sees Charlie Brown as a kindred spirit.
Jim’s a fan of classics. Colombo. MacGyver. Hawaii 5-0. Not the remakes though. Just the originals. He’s also a big fan of the law and order franchise
Joyce is a big fan of old sitcoms like the golden girls and Mary Tyler Moore.
Nancys favourite Disney film is sleeping beauty. And yes. Her and Jonathan have gone as Aurora and Phillip for Halloween. Twice.
Robin and Steve play wingman for each other when they go out and meet girls.
Max is trying to teach Lucas skate boarding. In return. He’s trying to teach her how to cook. Neither endeavour has been very successful. Yet
Will and Jonathan shared a room after Jim and Jane moved in before Jonathan moved in with Nancy. Now Will shares with Max.
It’s an open secret that Karen and Ted are far from just the social drinkers they claim to be.
Erica’s role models growing up were DW Read and Angelica Pickles. But are any of you really surprised?
Max’s dark secret is she has a bureau full of minions merchandise
The Hargrove’s doesn’t exist. Max is a Hopper just like Jane.
It’s an unspoken agreement between Nancy, Mike and Lucas that if both Ted and Karen die before Mike’s 18th then the Sinclair’s can adopt Mike if they so choose.
Dustin in the only one with tumblr. He’s got a enough blocked tags to fill Notre Dame up to Emanuel.
Steve’s a driving instructor. Dustin’s his only successful student.
Joyce and Jim are married with their four kids. Jonathan, Will, Jane and Max.
Mike makes it no secret that his favourite out of Nancy’s peer group is Jonathan. Jane’s is Argyle. Will’s is Robin. Dustin’s is Steve. Lucas and Max’s is Nancy.
Dustin and Will the only two who actively enjoy the muppets. Mike like the Simpsons. Jane likes Futurama. Lucas likes Friends. And Max likes new girl
Lucas is a whovian (the Clara era specifically). Max only watches Star Wars for Finn. Jane got Mike interested in Star Trek. Dustin and Will are Harry Potter fans. They’re both hinny and romione shippers so there’s very little arguments.
The Byers have a dog. The Henderson’s have several cats. The Wheelers have a hamster. The Sinclair’s have a horse.
Jane and Mike are speed dial number one on each other’s phone’s.
There’s no upside down and no Brenner. But Jane still has telekinesis. Except without the nosebleed’s.
Robin’s a big musical fan. But the only way she got Steve to watch them with her is by telling him about what the women look like.
Nancy found herself uncomfortably attracted to Skimbleshanks when she watched Cats 2019
Jane convinced Mike to watch once upon a time. Mike likes Emma. Jane likes Killian. They both hate Regina. And they both think Henry should’ve had more magic than he did.
Jonathan and Nancy are only living together. But Mike still calls Jonathan his brother in law. Half because it makes Ted go puce. Half because he’s already planning their wedding. He’s even gotten Holly in on it.
And last but not least. Lonnie’s dead. Car crash. No-one misses him. Joyce only went to the funeral out of respect for his mother. Jim proposed at the wake.
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gayofthefae · 2 years
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How is housing gonna work? Cute fanfic trope of Will in Mike’s room is cute and all but they wouldn’t just let Jonathan sleep in Nancy’s every night and where would Joyce sleep?
The cabin has one bedroom, which is El’s, and Hopper slept on the couch. I guess maybe like El and Will could share and both Joyce and Hop could be on the living room chair/couch? But then where is Jonathan? Or maybe the cabin could stay the same and Will and Mike could stay together, Holly go with Nancy and Jonathan take her room?? But then where would Joyce go, Karen takes the main bedroom and Ted sleeps in the La-Z-Boy so on the couch by Ted? Jonathan and Nancy will be 20 after the 3 year jump so I guess they could have their own place (but idk about introducing a new set with everything else already going on??) Oh! And not to mention a) is Argyle staying (and where are his parents) and b) Dmitri Antonov??? Is he...here? They mentioned him moving to Indiana (and if so, where is his son? and if not, how is he not being hunted still?)
OH. BOOM SOLVED IT. Murray literally lives in a fucking BUNKER. And it is now the APOCOLYPSE. Can’t believe I didn’t think of it before, that’s perfect. Also only hilarity can ensue if Murray is harboring the Byers/maybe Hopper-Byers + Antonov and Argyle(who not only left Cali but also stole a pizza truck btw??). We know that Murray has a place to sleep upstairs, a pullout sofa in the study, another bedroom, and a couch in the living room. So he would still be sleeping there, leaving 3 other places (four if there was a second couch/chair I think?) for the remaining Jonathan, Will, and Joyce. Okay, figure it out, Argyle and Dmitry ig. Wait, but why would the Hopper-Byers not live together? 
You know what! We have never seen the extent of Murray’s bunker! Executive decision, everybody move to Murray’s bunker because that is the funniest option and still allows for plenty of same room/same bed etc. or whatever kind of living together tropes you want.
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