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erikiara80 · 7 months

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Them

Us

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twelvegate-blog · 5 months

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Thinking about this 😏

#byler #twelvegate #willel twins #will byers #el hopper #mike wheeler #jim hopper #joyce byers #jopper #stranger things

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chirpsythismorning · 10 months

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ST colour theory my beloved

#stranger things #willel #willel twins #willel literal twins #will byers #will has powers #twelvegate #st colour theory #red/yellow #iykyk #FIREBALL!!#byler #<- not byler related #El aka red is gonna need some back up aka yellow #‘strap two of these together and it’s bigger than an m-80’#also look up the color of a box of M-80…#yeah 😫🫡

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willbyerssupremacist · 1 year

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this is NOT my usual art style at all, i'm a realism type of person usually so this was out of my comfort zone but it was fun so here's some cute doodles of the party playing minecraft together <3

#byler #byler tumblr #stranger things #stranger things fanart #byler fanart #elumax #elumax fanart #dustin henderson #mike wheeler #will byers #max mayfield #el hopper byers #lucas sinclair #willel twins #stranger things au #byler au

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juxhex · 2 years

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pov you’re mike wheeler and you just said some outta pocket sht

#will byers #el hopper #jane hopper #eleven #stranger things #stranger things 4 #willel #willel twins #oops repost #juxart

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tsugarubecker · 2 years

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Honestly has it been talked about yet that Will develops a level of caring and understanding for El that Mike can arguably never achieve - or at least has not, yet - by being her brother?

Makes me think of El’s “will you be like my brother” comment from S1.

I just can’t get Will’s “it’s gonna be okay. We’ll fix it together. We’ll fix it together” out of my head. Add to that “we’re her brothers, we’re family”? I’m a mess. Add Will standing up when Angela dragged El away and becoming visibly upset because he knows she’s about to be hurt? I’m an absolute wreck.

Will is the brother El has always deserved.

Additionally, “we’ll fix it together” Will has powers have a nice day

#not the point of this post but JUST SAYING #willel #willel twins #willel siblings #stranger things #stranger things season 4 #st spoilers #will byers #eleven #eleven stranger things #el hopper #jane hopper #byler tumblr #byler

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shippingfangirl013 · 1 year

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Some S4 Soundtrack analysis that led me to some interesting discoveries (Part 1)

I’ve been meaning to post this for a while now, but after digging (and I mean DIGGING through the soundtrack and all of the music played in all 4 seasons, I finally found some interesting inspiration for the show.)

First up, a track called “The Box” that plays when Jonathan and Will have the talk at Surfer Boy Pizza.

This track has legitimately driven me insane because @chirpsythismorning mentioned it to me a few weeks ago while I was on vacation… and I took that time off and ran with it for analyzing. . .

So, what I found was that the track “The Box” actually comes from a very interesting silent Sci-Fi / Fantasy short film written by an incredible team of deaf artists! It’s about 20 minutes long, and it’s a rather powerful film.

Here’s the link if you want to watch it!

vimeo

Anyways, I thought it was rather interesting that “The Box” was playing when Jonathan and Will have their talk and Will doesn’t remember having a Lego stuck up his nose…

The shots in Mather that felt very much like it inspired a lot of the ideas surrounding Vecna and where NINA was placed in the show…

Now, a lot of these shots caught my eye while watching the short film…

But something else that is important to note is the description of the film itself…

It’s interesting, watching the main character battle within himself and there’s some odd flashbacks, almost, that he has that aren’t able to be explained within the context of the movie, they just occur - it’s one of those things that just is.

And after watching, I looked up the filming location for Mather… and it is Coyote Dry Lake in Barstow, California.

But I noticed that the shots and the blocking in Mather looked familiar to me because of these shots:

They didn’t film at the same place, but the setting and what they borrowed from the film Mather (2019) was intentional.

Anyways, “The Box” plays when Mather finds the seeds (I believe). It was kind of hard to pinpoint the music.

I’ll add more to this once I get more screenshots, but for now, I’m leaving this as is and I’ll edit it with updates later.

#Vimeo #willel twins #byler #stranger things #will byers #mike wheeler #willel #stranger things 4 #el hopper #jonathan byers #(for kayla to come back to)#stranger things s4 soundtrack #not exactly theories here #more analysis at the moment

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honneberries · 1 year

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Baby Byers/hopper siblings

This is canon willel twins real

#stranger things #stranger things fanart #fanart #will byers #will byers fanart #eleven fanart #eleven hopper #willel #willel twins #stranger things jonathan #jonathan byers #Jonathan and will #jonathan byers fanart #eleven stranger things #byers siblings #the best siblings

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byler-makemewanttobelieveitsokay · 9 months

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The Wonder Twins Sketches

These were some really early sketches of Will and El. They aren't necessarily accurate to the twins current looks or plotlines, but they exist, I guess, and I felt like sharing them.

yes these are drawn on lined paper. Yes I did do these in Geography and Maths class.

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erikiara80 · 3 months

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Thinking thoughts.

Time. Home.

Mom is coming.

Mom!

The (W)right Bros

This whole scene. Dimitri's son, not slow or stupid, top of his class. And Hopper says 'Then you're not his father.' In 4x01 we learn that El struggles in school.

Is this a subtle way to tell us that she IS Hopper's daughter? Also, that bald guy in the frame. Maybe it's just me, but he reminds me of Sarah. So, Hopper is El's father, not Sarah's?

And when Hopper mentions a wife, we see two bald guys. Twin imagery. El and Will? And the wife is Joyce? Of course, this could also be a subtle reference to Henry, Virginia and Victor.

Will and El's connection and, imo, their connection to Hopper, have been hinted at since S1.

Their true connection. They're family. And they both have powers.

#willel twins #twelvegate #will byers #will has powers #el hopper #jopper #joyce byers #jim hopper #st analysis #stranger things

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willelmaxfriendship · 1 year

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will the artist moodboard !

in addition to the elmax small town au moodboards, i made a will the artist one afterwards to fit the willel twins !

here's will the artist xx

#my moodboards #will byers #artist will byers #painter will byers #willel #willel siblings #willel twins #willmax #stranger things

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twelvegate-blog · 1 month

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I think I've found more evidence that this strange line in an article about a basketball game is about El feeling abandoned by her parents when she was a child (because they forgot her, and she became a lab kid)

...fell to his knees and began to cry as though he was a child abandoned by his parents

... I got down on my knees, got down on my knees

#willel twins #willel twins evidence #el hopper #stranger things

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chirpsythismorning · 11 months

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willbyerssupremacist · 1 year

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el would bring random animals into the house and keep them as pets. will would be so confused. jonathan would be on board with the idea because he thinks it's hilarious.

#will byers #willel twins #willel wonder twins #willel #jonatha byers #byers hopper family #byers hopper siblings #byers siblings #byler twitter au #el hopper byers

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aemiron-main · 1 year

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have you seen @chirpsythismorning ‘s thoughts about Hopper and Joyce being Will and El’s biological parents? and if you have what do you think about it

WillEl: Schrodinger’s Twins

Hello, anon! I had seen some of those thoughts previously, but now that I’ve gotten this ask, I’ve decided to take a deeper look onto it!

So, do I think Will and El are biological twins? Yes and no. Not that I’m undecided, but literally, yes AND no. They both are and aren't related, depending on the timeline.

Looking at this post, there’s something specific that I disagree with:

“El nor Will are related to Henry by blood,” This is something I can agree with but ONLY when we consider Edward. IMO, one way or another, in at least one timeline, El is a Creel. There’s very little doubt about that in my mind.

However, I think she’s most likely the daughter of Edward Creel, rather than Henry Creel, and Edward and Henry don’t seem to exist in the same timeline. And I agree that Will is never related to Henry or Edward/is never a Creel.

So, Mike and El are both Creels/related in the Edward timeline but El is NOT related to Will in the Edward timeline.

AND

If Mike and El are NOT related in the Henry timeline, and El IS related to Will in the Henry timeline.

Then that’s how I can see the Creel-Wheeler and Willel twins stuff coexisting without Mike and Will being related, as even through timelines, they would not be related, as Will is never a Creel, and the timeline where El is a Creel is the one where she is not related to Will. This would also track with Will seemingly having two different birthdays (March 22nd and May 22nd)- one where he shares a birthday with El, and one where he does not.

If I had to choose between El and Mike being Creels vs WillEl biological twins though, I think there’s more evidence to support the former, although like I said, they can coexist when we consider Edward and timelines.

So, if Edward is El’s father in one timeline (the timeline where she’s NOT biologically related to Will but IS biologically Mike’s cousin), then who is her father in the other timeline?

This is a difficult question because we don’t know how many timelines there are, but I think there’s these options:

1.) Henry

Since Karen is only related to the Creels in the Edward timeline, Henry Creel could still be El’s father without Mike and El being related (and therefore without Mike and Will being related if Will and El are related). However, this would mean that Henry is also Will’s father if Willel biological twins is true, and it would also mean that Mike and Will ARE related through timelines, so I think we can write off Henry as being El’s father.

2.) Brenner

He's an option I guess, but I don't really see him being El's biological father (setting aside henry/edward/brenner parallel weirdness)

3.) Hopper

There is a line that I noticed when it comes to the question of “could Joyce and Hopper have had kids?”

Especially since right after that line about Joyce and Hopper screwing, somebody yells “WILL!”

So, in one timeline Edward and Terry are likely El’s parents, and in another, Joyce and Hopper are likely El’s parents.

There is no doubt in my mind that El is a Creel in at least one timeline. The evidence is absolutely there for it.

James has made some great posts about this resemblance here, here, here, here, and here.

And I think that anyone using the resemblance between El and Joyce as evidence for them being related also then needs to consider the very strong resemblance (and constant parallels) between El and Henry/Edward, because otherwise, it feels like cherrypicking evidence rather than looking at what the evidence actually is. I'm NOT saying that chirpsythismorning is cherrypicking evidence, I'm just saying this in a general sense, which also includes me needing to acknowledge that there is a resemblance between Joyce and El just like there is between El and Henry/Edward. Hell, we literally see El with the name "Eleanor," with a blonde wig (like Henry/Edward), wearing a dress VERY similar to Alice's style of dress, with roses on the wall, staring into a mirror (all of Henry/Edward's mirror imagery), and then she later gets referred to as Mike's cousin in that EXACT outift. El and Mike are absolutely Creels in one timeline.

However, I think that El is Edward’s daughter, not Henry’s and that in the timeline where El is Edward’s daughter, Will and El are not biological twins, and Mike and El are only related in the Edward timeline.

Summary

Timeline 1:

Edward Creel is El’s biological father, fathering El in the lab as part of Brenner’s attempts to recreate him.

Terry Ives is El’s biological mother.

Joyce Byers is Will’s biological mother.

Mike and El are blood cousins.

This is because in the Edward timeline, Virginia Creel is Victor Creel’s daughter/Edward’s sister and Alice Creel is Victor Creel’s wife/Edward’s mother.

Their roles are swapped from what they are in the Henry timeline.

And this makes Mike and El cousins because Karen Wheeler is very, very likely Daughter Virginia/Edward’s sister in the Edward timeline (with Connie Frazier being Mother Alice), and so, if Edward and Karen are siblings, then their kids, Mike and El, are cousins in the Edward timeline.

Karen Wheeler is a Creel (Daughter Virginia)

Hopper and El are not blood related.

Will and El are not blood related.

Joyce and El are not blood related.

Timeline 2:

Edward Creel does not exist in this timeline. Henry Creel is not El’s biological father. El is not a Creel. Mike is not a Creel.

Joyce Byers is El and Will’s biological mother.

Will and El are twins/blood related.

Mike and El are not cousins/not blood related

Karen Wheeler is not a Creel

Hopper and El are possibly blood related, as he is possibly her father and Will’s father

Brenner and El are possibly blood related, as he is possibly her father and Will’s father. However, I think Hopper being the father is more likely, as he seems to be Will’s father in one timeline and if Will and El are twins, then he’s also El’s father.

I hope this makes sense. Narratively, do I love the idea right now of Hopper being El's biological father? No. But I'm confident that if that's what ST is doing, then they're going to do it well, and I also acknowledge that there does seem to be a fair bit of evidence pointing to it. Who cares what I do or don't like if the evidence is there for it! And again, I'm sure that if they're doing it, it'll be done well without undermining the found family themes in ST. And I absolutely, firmly believe that El is a Creel in one timeline, and that Mike is also very likely a Creel in that same timeline. Will is never a Creel, though.

This theory combines the Wheeler-Creel analysis with Jo’s “Willel twins,” analysis which, frankly, I think is the best way to approach this because it means we don’t have to ignore any evidence (such as all of the things that point to El being a Creel AND all of the things that point to Willel twins).

As well, I also think there’s a chance that Will and El aren’t related in any timeline and that El is Edward’s daughter in one timeline and Henry’s in another (and Will and El are never related so Mike and Will still are never be related) and that Hopper is simply Will’s biological father, not El’s, but right now I’m leaning towards what I laid out in this post with twins in one timeline vs not twins in another.

Also, if anyone is still confused about what the hell I’m talking about with Edward Creel, where he came from, how Karen and the Wheelers etc play into it, you can find a post explaining Edward here. And here is the initial post about Karen Wheeler being Daughter Virginia from the Edward timeline.

#stranger things #edward creel #eleanor creel #mike creeler #willel twins #st anons #st asks #st analysis #st creel timeline weirdness

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shippingfangirl013 · 10 months

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#it’s a mystery tool that will help us later #twelvegate #no because it’s actually insane that Will is in a hospital gown in that scene and I NEVER noticed #say it with me: Wardrobe is intentional too.#stranger things #will byers #willel #byler #< target audience #el hopper #the (time) hoppers #Byers-hopper fam #stranger things 4 #jonathan byers #willel siblings #joyce + hopper = willel twins #willel literal twins #Willel twins #will byers has powers

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