I hope one day you look at what you are now and are ashamed of it. I hope one day you become a better person. And I hope one day you become proud of getting out of this mindset, of this self destructive ideology. Once the Right is done with Trans people they'll come after Bisexuals next, then Gay and Lesbian people, then they'll force women back into the kitchen and strip away MORE rights. We do not have a chance unless we stand together, not torn apart.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I live in a country which was ruled by a far-right government for the last 8 years. Wanna guess who they've come after first and foremost? They've come after WOMEN. Abortion was banned. Women were insulted by right-wing men almost on a daily basis, as well as LGB people, who still have no right to get married here. Trans people, on the other hand, are able to undergo "gender affirming" surgeries and change their gender officially.
The Right has been coming after women and homosexual people years before even a concept of being trans was named.
And they do to this day. If you think that women and LGB people are somehow privileged and trans people are the only ones being oppressed then you're a fucking idiot.
So no, I won't stand together with people who think that my struggles and oppression are an identity one can just have or not have. I won't stand with people who think that women enjoy their position in the society bc hey, if they didn't, they could always transition! I won't stand with people who think WOMEN = long hair, makeup, dresses, being silly and cute, MEN = short hair, pants and actually having a personality. I won't stand with people who think that lesbians who don't like dicks are transphobic and therefore evil.
I used to be on your side. Now I'm not and I'll never be again. Because YOUR ideology is self-destructive. Y'all are literally undergoing dangerous, unnecessary surgeries to fulfill your fantasies. Y'all hate your bodies. There's nothing destructive with being a woman who accepts her sex and who cares about women's rights. I hope YOU will wake up one day.
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Survey Results: Genders
Questioning
The first question asked participants to indicate whether they were multigender or were questioning. 1196 participants (81.03%) identified as multigender, while 280 (18.97%) were questioning whether they identified as multigender.
Gender categories & combinations
Every gender given was sorted into one of five categories: Fully male, fully female, partially male, partially female, and not binary at all. The following data describes which combination of gender categories people had.
Note on categorization:
Although not all people who are men or boys identify with the term “male,” and not all people who are women or girls identify with the term “female,” men and boys were categorized as fully male and women and girls were categorized as fully female for ease of simplicity. People who identified as “everything” or “all genders” were categorized as both fully male and fully female. Demiboys and demigirls, as well as other gender microlabels that were connected to maleness or femaleness, were categorized as partially male and partially female. Genders not at all connected to maleness or femaleness were categorized as “not binary.”
It was impossible to know how each person considered themself beyond the options they selected and the labels written into the “other” option, but that information was used to find the closest likely option.
Every gender is unique, and it is very simplistic to divide gender into these categories, but this simplicity is necessary for useful data. Otherwise, I would have nearly 1500 different categories.
All participants were divided into one of the following nine categories:
Fully male and fully female (532 participants, 36.04%)
Partially male and partially female (110 participants, 7.45%)
Fully male and partially female (134 participants, 9.08%)
Partially male and fully female (29 participants, 1.96%)
Fully male and not binary (288 participants, 19.51%)
Partially male and not binary (89 participants, 6.03%)
Fully female and not binary (68 participants, 4.61%)
Partially female and not binary (62 participants, 4.20%)
No binary genders at all (164 participants, 11.11%)
[id: a pie chart representing the above data, in the colors of the gilbert baker pride flag]
To display the number of binary genders that each participant had, this data was divided into larger categories of “both binary genders,” “one binary gender,” and “neither binary gender.” This was done twice. In one version, “binary genders” only included people who were fully that gender. In the other, “binary genders” included people who were fully or partially that gender.
Both binary genders, fully (532 participants, 36.04%)
1 binary gender, fully (540 participants, 36.59%)
Neither binary gender (404 participants, 27.37%)
[id: a pie chart representing the above data, in the colors of the trans pride flag]
Both binary genders, partially or fully (805 participants, 54.54%)
1 binary gender, partially or fully (507 participants, 34.35%)
Neither binary gender at all (164 participants, 11.11%)
[id: a pie chart representing the above data, in the colors of the trans pride flag]
Multigender people who were, in some capacity, both male and female made up the majority of respondents, but it was not a very strong majority. This is an indication that multigender identities not composed of a male/masculine gender and a female/feminine gender are more common than many people would likely expect, based on an informal tumblr poll.
Gender modality
Gender modality refers to the relationship between someone’s gender identity and what they were assigned at birth. The most common gender modalities are cisgender and transgender, but for many multigender people, it is more complicated than that. This question asked “Which of these gender modality terms do you identify with?” and allowed for participants to select multiple options.
A majority of participants identified as trans, with 1197 people selecting that option (81.10%). Additionally, 90 participants (6.10%) identified as cis.
Gender modality terms beyond trans and cis were also popular among participants. The most common of these terms was transfemmasc, an identity referring to people who identify as both transmasculine and transfeminine. 212 participants (14.36%) identified as transfemmasc. 70 participants (4.74%) identified as isogender, an identity referring to people who are neither transgender nor cisgender, and 82 participants (5.56%) identified as both transgender and cisgender. 164 participants (11.11%) did not identify with any gender modality terms.
An “other” option allowed for participants to write additional gender modality terms they identified with. 15 participants (1.02%) wrote in “genderqueer” as their gender modality. Additionally, 6 participants stated that their intersex identity factored into their gender modality.
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Ok, going to add to the "Trans Noelle antlers" discourse.
First, disclaimer this is all just for fun and stuff not telling you that Noelle is or is not trans, just had some thoughts after thinking what causes antlers to grow.
Let's go through the debate cycle again.
"Noelle is trans because she has antlers."
"Noelle is a reindeer and both male and female reindeer have antlers."
"Male and Female reindeer loose their antlers at different times"
I want to add another step to that cycle.
"Would HRT affect when Noelle sheds her antlers?"
From this paper, testosterone lowers when male reindeer are about to lose their antlers, but those that are castrated (and thus dont have any T in their system) actually keep their antlers over the winter in the long run. The study also shows that hormones like estradiol are likely what lets female reindeer keep their antlers into spring.
Now this can mean many things for Noelle. If Noelle is on HRT, she would likely have a similar Antler cycle to IRL female reindeers if she like cycled her hormones or something.
(Basically similar to how some folks try and change their hormone doses to match a menstrual cycle, except for Noelle this would be a yearly cycle and not monthly.)
Or, maybe Noelle doesn't cycle her HRT, and in that case idk what would happen. Maybe she'd lose her antlers later then male reindeer, but earlier then female ones. Maybe if its high enough it would keep her antlers for longer, or prevent them from shedding or something? Idk I just skimmed the article and I feel like I'm already doing to much to research a lesbian deer girl from a video game.
Even if Noelle was on puberty blockers, then she'd at least keep her antlers for the winter, like male reindeer without testosterone.
(Also, if Noelle was a deer and not a reindeer, then hormones/blockers would likely prevent her antlers to grow in the first-place once they've been shed.)
I have only just learned (in April) that this is inaccurate for deer. If Noelle was a deer and started blockers before growing antlers, the above is correct. If she started blockers after developing antlers, she'd still grow antlers, it's just they wouldn't leave the velvet stage and wouldn't naturally shed.
I have no clue what HRT would do though because I don't think scientists have injected male deer with estrogen. (COME ON SCIENTISTS DO IT FOR SCIENCE!)
Now I guess there's one more question, if Noelle is trans, would she be able to access HRT or puberty blockers?
Well, Rudy at least supports her identity, so he likely wouldn't have any problem with Noelle medically transitioning.
If Mayor Holiday was transphobic, and had the authority to keep Noelle from gender affirming care like Hormones or blockers, you would think she'd also put her hoof down on her daughter presenting femme too. (and Rudy might have something to say if his transphobic wife tried to prevent his daughter from transitioning.)
Money likely wouldn't be an issue seeing as Noelle's mom's the mayor, (and has been for awhile) and even then the large ornate gate at their house makes me think that Holiday's are on the richer side.
Only way I could see Noelle being trans and not on Hormones or Blockers is either if she for some reason didn't want them, or if Hometown is located in some transphobic country or municipality that banned trans-kids from accessing gender affirming care, and the latter honestly seems a little too depressingly real for a Toby Fox game.
(Insert something plagiarized from Shadow of Roserade's video on UT/DR's queer joy.)
Now, dispute all this arguing and stuff I think there's one factor we're ignoring here; we're assuming that reindeer monster biology and IRL reindeer biology are analogous.
We don't know how monster reindeer antlers work. Maybe all reindeer monsters have them, but they don't shed them so we cant use antlers to determine if Noelle is trans. Maybe AMAB reindeer monsters grow antlers, their permanent, and Noelle got hers before medically transitioning meaning she'd need like "antler reduction surgery" or something to remove them when she's older.
All the above theorizing means is that if Noelle has a similar antler cycle to IRL female reindeer, it doesn't mean she's cis because HRT can affect that.
There's no way to confirm if Noelle is or is not trans unless like more concrete evidence shows up in later chapters, like estradiol tablets in Noelle's room or something.
The most we've got is unused sprites for Noelle's room in queen's mansion that show pill bottles (Shown earlier in this post). This is still not enough as we don't know what these pill bottles are. They could be anything from anti-depressants to medicine for Rudy! (also the fact the sprites we're never used.)
TL;DR, there's no way to tell if Noelle's trans or cis, and trying to track when her antlers shed is futile as HRT would likely effect that.
I'm still going to pretend she's trans though as I love the headcanon for no particular reason. (spoiler alert, the reason is I'm trans!)
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