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asgardiannarnian · 4 months
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So I recently finished the Loki series, and I couldn't get this comparison out of my head.
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tellioari · 6 months
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Happy Halloween!!!! to celebrate, here's Edelwood trees!
Spawning rarely in all types of forest biomes, with an elevated chance in roofed forests, these trees consist of a single thick trunk with sprawling underground roots and mangey branches.
Since these trees do not drop saplings, as they only have bare branches, you will need to harvest one of the root blocks and kill a mob on top of it to grow a new Edelwood tree.
Sometimes, while in the forest near one of these trees, you may hear a strange sound. If you check the tree, you may find that it has some sticky, oily substance on its bark; this can be harvested and used to make soul lanterns and torches, or turned into black dye. In the future, we may add more correlation to other dyes to this tree; for now, it is a renewable easy source of black dye.
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pigsflyinginspace · 8 days
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Um. So. It’s been some days since I’ve visited. This will probably be the last you see of me for like 3 weeks. I love finals season. Yay. Anyway, have some sad Wirt.
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leahdrawsstuff · 6 months
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softichill · 2 years
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Never before have I wanted to pinch an OC's cheeks so badly
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ghosthauni · 6 months
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don’t lie here or you’ll turn into an edelwood tree !!
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jkl-fff · 6 months
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GUYS, I FIGURED OUT THE BLACK TURTLES!
It's a detail of OTGW that's lowkey perplexed me since the series first aired. What's with the black turtles that appear in every episode? What role do they serve in the story, and what do they represent?
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A small, seemingly inconsequential detail, but just the sort to occupy my mind every time I watch the show.
My first train of thought: Are they manifestations of The Beast's power and influence? If not, why does eating one turn Beatrice's dog into a slavering monster? But if so, why is Auntie Whispers purely benevolent despite eating one (and presumably much more)? Why aren't they themselves monstrous and malevolent? But also why aren't they, on the contrary, beautiful and benevolent? They're just ... sorta there, which suggests there's no supernatural nor moral element to them. Yet they're clearly not natural turtles, either ...
My second train of thpught: Are they representations of the Unknown's liminal nature, moving between land and water just as the Unknown is between life and death? Thus a foreshadow and a reminder of the brother's state? It would sorta make sense, given their omnipresence. Mirrored by the brother's Frog, whose amphibious nature is likewise liminal. And the weirdness of turtles specifically for this symbolic role fits the the weird aesthetic of The Unknown. Still, it didn't seem to quite fit.
BUT TONIGHT, I FIGURED OUT WHERE THEY COME FROM! THE OLD GRIST MILL!
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WHERE THE WOODSMAN HAS BEEN GRINDING EDELWOOD TREES INTO A DISTINCTIVELY BLACK OIL FOR THE LANTERN!
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SOME OF WHICH MUST BE WASHED OFF, LEAKING, OR EVEN SPILLED OUTRIGHT INTO THE STREAM THAT POWERS THE MILL, AND THUS CONTAMINATING THE ENVIRONMENT!
It's pollution. Industrial Revolution era pollution is the reason for the black turtles distinctive color and weird effects on some people, but not others.
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hatchetmanofficial · 6 months
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I like to think that Alan still has a part of him, that wants to weasel his way back into society, especially after meeting his Doe-eyes. But he can never have it. It's selfish of him to want.
Or Alan doesn’t believe that even if he can get away he can be redeemed/deserves it. Or could cope with being part of society.
Boss is unpredictable and very much so picks those who believe they are someone without a cause. I'd like to think that The Beast's song "Come Wayward Souls" applies to him.
I really enjoyed Over The Garden Wall, and especially Come Wayward Souls/Potatus Et Molasses. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWgVdUv9UHo
It’s a shame the show got pulled from streaming services in a lot of locations.
TW suicide, death, religion feel free to ignore and delete this ask if it’s too heavy or triggering.
I watched Over The Garden Wall years ago and while I haven’t actually read The Divine Comedy/Dante’s Inferno directly… I need to as I’ve found a great VN that also derives from it called 10:16 …I seem to remember some analyses that describe the sin of despair.
(Makes sense. Catholics believe suicide is a sin.)
That is why blithe Greg was aided unlike Wirt. He is a child, innocent of the sin of despair, and in turn his seemingly random foolish actions stave off disaster, ie. dumping the coins from the ghosts creates a bonding experience while getting to Adelaide’s house so Beatrice can change her mind about betraying them.
(Also - that means they didn’t pay the coins to the ferryman to cross Acheron/the Styx! Charon’s Obol. Put into the mouth or on the eyes of the dead for that purpose. They also played a song for clemency like Orpheus.
Technically they haven’t paid for passage or received rites so cannot cross over into death and are trapped on the Earth side of the bank! Forced to wander/given more time before crossing. This may have been key to finally getting out of there. Though a villager in Harveston did say it wasn’t their time.)
And Greg is only ever in real danger when he loses hope, gives up and chooses to sacrifice himself for Wirt.
Wirt only breaks the curse when he has a realisation and dares to hope. To act. Otherwise he would have been trapped as the new employee, the new woodcutter/soul reaper/perpetuator of the cycle.
So… The Beast, and perhaps the Boss, do prey on despair and the lost. And potentially suicides but I’m not sure.
The Edelwood trees also recall The Wood Of The Suicides, which is yet another reference to Dante’s Inferno that I first encountered in The Sandman series. (Though those were in hell.)
So. With Over The Garden Wall being a child friendly allegory for purgatory or hell… I’m actually wondering if Carver, Alan, and Stitches may be dead without being aware of it? Or at least no longer strictly living, caught halfway in the liminal space of the uncanny town.
Stitches was constructed from the remains of three people. Carver doesn’t resemble his past self, retain much of his humanity or remember much about his life. 
Alan… was an unprepared 14 (?) year old runaway who was homeless for at least a year in Canada (?), which means he very likely experienced at least one bitterly cold winter without adequate shelter or clothing. Due to his genetic condition he may not have even been able to feel cold or pain to know how much peril he was in and find shelter, or he was lost.
I don’t know whether he was ‘rescued’ while still alive as an alternative to dying or whether he could have actually succumbed to exposure (or to despair in a tragic literal sense) and been found then.
I wonder if this is a Charon situation, if Alan replaced a disobedient employee and a future victim may replace him. (Perhaps Stitches is being lined up, or was created to watch Alan.)
Are the employees psychopomps? 
Or cultists enacting sacrifice?
Both?
In a way Alan cutting down people with his hatchet recalls the cutting down of the Edelwood Trees, that being a metaphor for death.
(I wonder if the choosing is similar to that of the employees - if he takes the despairing, those lost in life, or those who get lost in the forest. The victims are cut down with a hatchet, reaped to feed/fuel the Boss/the Beast.)
Which is more traditionally represented with a field of wheat being reaped by Death’s scythe.
A cornfield, another scary liminal space where people get lost, with similar reaping imagery, has also been associated with evil supernatural entities. 
A good example is He Who Walks Behind The Rows, implying an ancient evil god/cult worship and human sacrifice. Giving a hint of why the Boss might be making them do this.
Much in the way the Ancient Greeks believed they needed to placate gods and ghosts with blood.
Doe Eyes is a pull to humanity and life. Orpheus trying to lead Eurydice out of Hades. 
Or maybe the coworkers are just metaphorically ‘dead to the world’ through being taken in by the cult and largely isolated from society. (Stitches though is absolutely on some level dead or was never alive.)
I’m also seeing some Twin Peaks/Deadly Premonition parallels with forests/trees, weird towns, and another entity like BOB feeding on suffering.
I remember reading that the Boss may have been partially inspired by Bill Cipher too, so I’m wondering if the town is a little pocket of supernatural chaos. 
Bill (a yellow pyramid) was in turn inspired by Nyarlathotep, who liked to start cults and spread chaos and discord amongst mortals - and where Nyarlathotep is associated with pyramids The Boss is embodied in a similarly angular form of a diamond shaped sign. A yellow sign! 
The Yellow Sign is a symbol that is usually used by the Brotherhood of the Yellow Sign, a cult that worships the Great Old One Hastur. It is said that the symbol can bestow supernatural powers such as mind-control and possession, and is used to get people under the control of the King in Yellow.
Actually… Past traumatic event in Doe Eye’s life and (spoiler) aside, that may also explain Doe Eye’s nightmares and inability to sleep. As well as their pull to the forest.
So while I’m half recalling all of this or extrapolating from googled snippets maybe all of these things together are hints to the Boss’s eldritch nature.
However, he can still influence his employers. If he sees someone get out of line, he would simply have to put them back in place. Alan, however, never gave Boss any hassle, not even when he first found him. You could say he has a clean track record when it comes to his job. Until doe-eyes that is. When I say that Boss kinda has favorites. He truly does.
I think Alan was too young, beaten down and scared to rebel and so obeyed without question. I think the Boss liked that. Alan is wolf coded but was as obedient as a lamb. Or the Boss’s loyal dog, used to guard and attack.
I had a blast reading through all of this
thank you tumblr user krowspiracyanon!
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anistarrose · 6 months
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so the Tavern Keeper's song "The Beast is Out There" actually spells out the Beast's modus operandi in thorough detail, right? it explicitly spells out that his promises are lies, that the Edelwood trees are grown from his victims, and even that the lantern is "his."
this is all delivered, folktale-as-a-warning-style, to Wirt and Greg when they appear in the tavern as lost travelers — it may even play a part on Wirt seeing through the Beast's trick in the finale. this is a warning conveyed to residents of the Unknown through song — these people aren't oblivious to the Beast; in fact, they're "all" well aware that he's out there and he can't be trusted.
so, with this in mind, why is it so strongly implied that the Woodsman hasn't heard this song?
the Woodsman claims, probably honestly, that he had no idea where the Edelwood trees come from. and he never had an inkling that the Beast's soul was in the lantern all along — maybe a very faint one, but not enough to counteract his denial and desperation. nothing like Wirt's immediate intuition.
so, was the Woodsman's denial just too deep, or had he really never heard the song? had he really never been warned? he's been seen very near to the Dark Lantern tavern, but it seems he never entered, and this has... heartbreaking implications to me.
because clearly, he was feared and ostracized due to carrying the lantern! the Tavern Keeper was superstitious enough about bluebirds, for crying out loud, so of course she'd object to the Woodsman stepping foot in her tavern when "he who carries the lantern must be the Beast!"
but even before the Woodsman became the lantern-bearer — was he never given a proper warning then, either? were he and his family outcasts then, too? if so, was it by choice, or were they just ostracized by superstitious townsfolk before the Beast ever had them in his clutches?
I mean, think about the naming conventions in the Dark Lantern episode — the Tavernkeeper. the Butcher. the Tailor. the Highwayman. and then the Woodsman. the names seem almost designed to call attention to how these characters should be connected — but they aren't. why aren't they?
and, hell — why did the Woodsman's daughter have no one to turn to who'd help her look, when her father went missing? why was there no support for either of them? did they just... never have anyone in their lives besides each other?
anyways, if you can't tell, the Woodsman is one of my favorite tragic heroes.
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xovera-toz · 9 months
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After Wirt returns from the hospital, he starts visiting the graveyard more often. There are a handful of abandoned graves that clear up right about that time, too.
No one can guess why he spends so much time there, or the connection between the graves. They appear to be random people, after all.
People try asking his little brother, since he spends most of his time with the boy, but Greg's claims are unbeliavable and childish. Sometimes he says they've met them, they are their friends, and so on. Other times he tells stories not unlike fairytales with speaking birds and evil woods.
Asking Wirt himself turns out to be even more confusing, since his only answer is "they were nice people, once" and nothing more.
His poetry, however, tells of emotions hidden, and has a certain line that has appeared quite often between beautifully woven lines...
"We'll meet again, under the edelwood tree."
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eruanna1875 · 6 months
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So, this song.
One line that I find very interesting is the line "A ribbon to wind thy soul and to bind love to thy breast".
Why?
Because it's the exact opposite of the Beast.
The Beast winds lost souls in edelwood, trapping them forever in sorrow and despair in his dark forest.
But in Pottsfield, the only thing that will wind any soul is a simple ribbon, made for festivity and joy round a maypole, and easily untied.
The Beast binds burdens to men that they should not have to bear. The Woodsman should never have had to wander the woods for so long, trying to save the daughter that wasn't lost, trying to recompense for a failure that was never his.
But in Pottsfield, the only thing that is bound to you is love, and that is a thing that binds itself willingly, not because it has no other choice. The Pottsfielders stay because it's nice here. No burden is laid on them to stay, but stay they do.
These aren't the only differences, either!
The way that the tasks given by the Beast are arduous, ugly, and never-ending, and accomplished always in shadow. The way that the tasks given by Enoch - as punishment for crimes, no less! - are simple farm chores to bring in a happy harvest, done in daylight and finished in a few hours.
The way that the dead in the Beast's forest become blank faces in twisted trees, all identity stripped from their features. The way that the dead in Pottsfield are greeted by name, and given new faces, both carved and painted with great detail.
Even when they overlap directly, they are not the same. When the Beast sings a particular tune, it is a siren song, calling forth the unwary and luring people into the darkness. But when it is played in Pottsfield, it is only a little fanfare, as if announcing that the wayward souls are about to be restored.
Do you think maybe the song was theirs before it was ever twisted by the Beast?
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docgold13 · 6 months
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Profiles in Villainy
The Beast
A veritable personification of the unknown, The Beast roams the forest, ruling over darkened spaces with vast and dangerous powers.  He possesses a lantern that he must keep lit at all times so to sustain his life.  Yet the only fuel that this lantern will accept is the oil extracted from the rare Edelwood tree. 
The Beast seeks out victims, those brave or foolish souls who venture into his woods.  He does all in his power to cause these victims to lose all hope.  Once said victim has lost hope and fully gives in to despair, this enables The Beast to transform them into an Edelwood tree; trees that he can then cut down and use to fuel his lantern.  In other words, The Beast subsists on lost hope and he will do all in his power instill despair into those he encounters.  
As manipulative as he is mysterious, The Beast is indifferent to the pain and suffering caused by his actions. He is quite well-spoken and will attempt to lull his victims into a false sense of security, accomplished by feigning concern. He is a master of deception, knowing exactly what to say to get people under his power. 
When the brothers, Wirt and Gregory, ventured into the forests, The Beast set his sights on the two lads.  Gregory was naive and impressionable and almost succumbed to The Beast’s manipulation; whilst Writ was much more dour and sensible as well as highly suspicious of the villain.  
It is likely the brothers would have perished at the hands of The Beast had they not been rescued by The Huntsman.  This Huntsman saved Wirt and Gregory and extinguished The Beast’s flame, seeming destroying the creature once and for all.  
Actor Samuel Ramey provided the voice for The Beast, appearing in the 2014 animated mini-series, Over the Garden Wall.  
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park-jimin-isnt-real · 7 months
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"devil town" masterlist
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🍂 pairing: platonic ot7 x reader 🍂 rating: pg 🍂 genre: autumn?? a lil spooky, a lil whimsy, a lil mystery; not quite angst, not quite fluff 🍂 au: "over the garden wall"-esque 🍂 summary: you take a chance and spend a month in Devil Town: a quaint little place nestled deep in the woods of The Unknown, where the air is always a touch chilly, things are never quite what they seem, and no one will tell you anything. 🍂 series tw: everyone is dead or nearly dead, major character death (not onscreen), near-death experiences, talking about death (a la "this is the story of how I died"), ambivalent/bittersweet ending, unreliable characters, will be updated as this goes on 🍂 track: Devil Town ~ Cavetown (full playlist) 🍂 main masterlist
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🍂 Somewhere Lost ~ the guide
You wake up on a bench in a forest, with no memory before then or recollection of how you got there. The person greeting you gives you three options: going into the Great Unknown (to never be seen again), wandering the woods (until you become an Edelwood tree), or spending a month in Devil Town.
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🍂 The Clouded Annals of History ~ the fool
You learn a bit more about Devil Town and what you're doing here... and maybe bargain part of your soul away in the process? It's hard to tell.
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🍂 A Place That Few Have Seen ~ the daredevil
coming soon...
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🍂 A Mysterious Place ~ the wanderer
coming soon...
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🍂 The Unknown ~ the protector
coming soon...
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🍂 Long-Forgotten Stories ~ the coward
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🍂 Those Who Travel Through the Wood ~ the loner
coming soon...
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ambassadorquark · 6 months
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mr beast trapped my daughter's soul in the fucking dark lantern i'm chopping the edelwood trees to keep this thing LIT!
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coramatus · 10 months
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Commiseration
Something for @peacheenie feat. their MC Ingo complaining about the stuff they get put through and Woodsman Ingo having a Wirt moment. All made possible thanks to the @ultimate-submas-tournament!
Don’t worry, MC. The Woodsman’s just a sad guy who just needs a nap like 98% of the time.
…Unless you poke his lantern or claim to be a family member he is positive is dead.
Then all bets are off and you’d best run for your life. 8’)
Transcription under cut:
MC: Then I kept getting killed by Beni until I figured out how to not die by him. Word of advice? Respawning sucks.
MC: So what’s your story?
Woodsman: I’m just a woodsman. I cut down Edelwood trees and harvest the oil for my lantern.
Woodsman: A lantern that is a constant reminder of my failures.
Woodsman: Endlessly hounding my ride on the tracks of despair.
MC: …
Woodsman: …
MC: Damn, dude. Are you ok?
Woodsman: I haven’t slept for three days straight.
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