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fantastic-nonsense · 2 years

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Helena Bertinelli should get Batman legacy rights for wearing the mantle during the No Man's Land crisis. Because she wasn't trying to replace Barbara Gordon's Batgirl, folks. She was trying to replace Bruce Wayne's Batman. She called herself The Bat. She saw herself as acting in Bruce's stead and several people thought she was him for months. She specifically told Bruce "Gotham needed a Bat" and he implicitly accepted that justification. She's not the second Batgirl; she's the fourth Batman. She should get credit for it.

#batman is a gender-neutral mantle and helena proves it #frankly the ONLY reasons people even attach her to 'Batgirl' are because of that weird freakout Babs had over her wearing the symbol #and the fact that Cass ended up with her costume #helena bertinelli #huntress #batman #no man's land #batman no man's land #barbara gordon #bruce wayne

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bubblesxo · 2 months

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OKAY GUYS

so. you know how a lot of people hc about the gotham accent in general dc media? well i always love this hc because accents are just so cool to me. so hear me out (this post is specific to the gotham tv show universe but can be generalized to any universe a cataclysm/No Man's Land event has occured)

earlier i was on tiktok and i found a video talking about the human tendency to create accents over time. (the video talked about how friend groups and families create accents/dialects which is?? so cool?? but i digress)

anyway, this led me to learn about a study about a group of scientists living in antarctica and how, over the period of just one winter, their vowel sounds had begun to merge together to create the beginnings of an accent. so now, i'll relate this to the cataclysm event.

to cause this event, during which gothamites are cut off in basically every way from the outside world, the bridges around gotham are bombed and destroyed (at least in the gotham tv universe). in this same universe, the time in which they are completely undisturbed (besides one guy communicating over a radio to one lady) is 97 days (over 3 months), at which time a military strike force (kinda. they're evil) is sent in to basically kill all of the criminals there. however, these people really only communicate limitedly with police, gang leaders, and like one time with bruce wayne. but that's about it. reunification with the outside world only began after day 391. that's over an entire year of near-complete separation from the outside world.

now, they already started off most likely having some kind of accent, especially noticeable in the people who lived primarily in the city. (even if the accent isn't particularly strong/differentiated at the time.) however, now they've spent an entire year together, alone in a big city. this has the makings of a stronger accent (at least for those who were stranded in gotham when this event occurred).

one of the important things to keep in mind when considering accents/dialects is the use of specialized vocabulary words, and lemme tell ya, gotham 100% has that. even excluding all of the names they have for people and the general gang info these people have, they still have multiple different terms for parts of town (ex: the financial district = penguin's territory, etc. with the other gangs in power at the time). on top of even this, the amount of stuff that just casually goes on in gotham is seen to completely flabbergast outsiders all the time. they likely have slang that is used to refer to various things the rogues do, or things about violence, gang wars, rations, barracks, etc. there is SO MUCH opportunity for an accent to originate here??

of course, once the events of No Man's Land end and reunification happens, a ton of gothamites who weren't there during it move back in and the accent is dispersed among the population. it likely is in part shared and, over time, becomes part of common vernacular, and, in part, deteriorates, especially regarding things that are no longer as common in the distant future (ex. referring to the financial district as penguin's terf 10 years after this happens would be a bit odd). however, i do believe that this would create a lasting impact on the overall population of gotham, even if only minorly.

(to those of you who keep up with my de-aged!gotham bruce au, this is going to be featured in some of the up-and-coming chapters (slang that feels off to others, weird references, a stronger accent, if only slightly, etc.). if you have any ideas or thoughts on this topic feel free to chime in!!! i love chatting and some help brainstorming on this would be appreciated <33)

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haveyoureadthiscomic-poll · 6 months

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#batman #batman no man's land #dcu #dc #dc comics #poll

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azulso · 2 years

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Doctor Leslie Thompkins needs more screen appearances

Batman - No Man's Land: Spiritual Currency

#Doctor Leslie Thompkins #Leslie Thompkins #Batman #Bruce Wayne #Batman No Man's Land #Spiritual Currency #Batman Spiritual Currency #No Man's Land Spiritual Currency #Gotham City

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about-faces · 1 year

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TOP 22 TWO-FACE STORIES OF ALL TIME

13.) Batman: No Man’s Land novelization by Greg Rucka (2001)

After an earthquake rocks Gotham, Two-Face becomes a wasteland warlord, dealing with conflicted allies, outside threats, and his own doomed crush on Renee Montoya. Adapted from the year-long comic event from 1999-2000, and superior to its source in most respects, especially where Harvey is concerned. Track down the stellar full-cast audio adaptation by Graphic Audio.

#top 22 twoface stories 2022 #harvey dent #greg rucka #batman #batman no man's land #renee montoya #the question #twoface #two face #novelization #jim gordon #james gordon #long post

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somebodys-nuisance · 1 year

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Hello again. Just wanna give everybody a quick reminder that No Man's Land is possibly one of the greatest arc ideas that any comic book has ever had ever.

Welp, back to work.

#batman no man's land #isolating literally the most crime-ridden city in all of the DC universe?#incredible #what a master work #batman #bruce wayne #batfamily #robin #ultimate batfam timeline

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warrioroftruthh · 8 months

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started reading no man's land. gave up in the middle of the first tpb

#batman #no mans land #no man's land #batman no man's land

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thetrickster-blr-blog · 2 years

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Top 10 Favorite Joker Designs

1. Classic 1970s-1990s

2. Alex Ross

3. Dark Knight Returns

4. This lovely coat from an issue of Azrael

5. Earth 3 Jokester

6. Beyond The White Knight

7. Batgirl Annual #1

8. Justice League: Drowned Earth

9. Harley Quinn Animated Series

10. The Joker War

#the joker #jack napier #joker #jokester #earth 3 jokester #batman beyond the white knight #alex ross joker #jorge jimenez #batman no man's land #harley quinn animated show

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comfortfoodcontent · 2 years

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Batgirl - Cassandra Cain by Paul Pope

From Batman: No Man’s Land Gallery

#batman #batman no man's land #batgirl #cass cain #cassandra cain #paul pope #dc #dc comics

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flybynightwing · 2 years

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Sometimes I think about the symbolism of the Batcave being built atop a literal fault line through Gotham, and then I think about how the comic is pretty clearly not aware of that symbolism.

Batman comics are an endless font of fascinating narrative rabbit holes.

#batman #batman no man's land

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pyroreadscomics · 8 months

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I've finally reached No Man's Land in my Catwoman read through and...

#A HUNDRED ISSUES?#I don't whether to be impressed or terrified #Batman No Man's Land #90s comics #fair enough #it is a whole year worth of basically every bat book's issues #but still?#Did people actually manage to keep up with this event?#Also #I do actually plan on sitting down and reading through this at some point #but not for a while #because good lord I have shit to do and don't have (quick mental math) a month's worth of free to time to dedicate to this rn

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crossoverworldtree · 2 years

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Cataclysm/No Man's Land

The Great Battle in New York in 1999/2000, when King Ghidorah battled Godzilla at the behest of a guardian of the earth (Mothra) left scars. The Battle lay waste to great sections of New York in which repairs did not begin for almost 10 months. During those 10 months, sections of New York were quarantined by the government due to various… exposures. The draconian tactics enforced by the US government were largely decried, as many people found themselves trapped behind a high electric fence. Humanitarian efforts occasionally entered, but none were allowed to leave until a year had passed for the Radiation and Chemical toxins to dissipate.

King Ghidorah Flyby:

During the attack, or just prior to it, King Ghidorah flew overhead blasting all in sight. To simulate such an attack, players take Wind Damage within the radius of the creature. This radius is over a 500ft wide, though ducking inside can save people from the worst of it (or just allow a wall to take the brunt of the blow, negating the damage or reducing it using the inanimate object chart). Everything exposed within the radius takes 30 points of damage from the wind alone. Then, they must dodge Shrapnel carried aloft: against 16 or suffer 45 Slash/Stab damage. Occasionally King Ghidorah will let loose a blast. Determine who will be hit by having the players roll and add their willpower (Drama Points function as normal). The lowest roll (or the lowest 3 who fail to get at least 9) are targeted by King Ghidorah and thus must dodge a gravity beam from the behemoth normally.

Radiation Effects:

Godzilla leaves a trail of destruction where he goes. Most of it is fire and collapsed buildings. Some of it is in raw radioactivity. Godzilla’s path through New York is contaminated. For the first 30 days after the Cataclysm, people who visit his pathway incur 10 rems per hour. After that, it is reduced by 1 rem every 30 days until it fades into the background. However, Godzilla bled on New York in the course of his battle with King Ghidorah. Those visiting those areas where he bled out (in Gotham) results in a dose of 40 rems per hour. If a chunk of Godzilla is located, that chunk releases 20 per hour--and there are some unscrupulous people who will pay top dollar to get their hands on such a sample.

A character recovers from radiation exposure at a rate of 1 rem per day, so it is suggested they are closely recorded. Once 100 rems are reached, the character truly begins to suffer (See Conspiracy X for details). Radioactivity is resisted with a Constitution (doubled) Roll vs. 18 with negative modifiers added for larger and larger doses.

Scrounging:

Scrounging became a way of life for the year No Man’s Land lasted. Picking up the pieces left behind by those who fled and general looting becomes a means of survival for some groups. It’s not exactly easy. Scrounging uses an Intelligence and Crime or Knowledge roll to determine where to go for a required part or item. Then a second Perception and Notice or Crime roll is needed to uncover the item. As time goes on, it becomes harder and harder to find places that haven’t been scrounged and scroungers become more creative in finding what they need. Each month of No Man’s Land places a -1 on all Scrounging rolls in addition to other circumstances.

Factions: One of the effects of No Man’s Land was the formation of large gangs as the only remaining society left. Each fought for control and No Man’s Land didn’t really end until the Police and the Batman took over the last bits of territory held by these gangs. Only then could reconstruction really begin. Territory was marked with urban tagging and some darker practices in some areas. The factions are as follows:

Cops – Also called the "Blue Boys" since, technically, they weren't cops. The police are overworked and stressed as many people turned to them for aid after the attack. They are trying their best, but are stretched thin. The Cops gang generally included all civil service representatives—from lawyers to nurses to firefighters.

Bat-Family – The Bat-Family keep their territory in order, but it is distinctly their territory and not that of the police. Only near the end of No Man’s Land did Batman ‘seed’ his territory to the cops (it was a plan between him and the commissioner). The Bat-Family, at the top, consisted of what generally comes to mind with that group. They also received aid from the Spider, the Shadow and Superman on several occasions—as they could slip by the quarantine with ease. They also received aid from an unlikely source: the Manhattan Gargoyle Clan. Other members of the “Gang” came from all walks of life: prince and pauper alike held rank in Batman’s organization. Many of these were also informants of the Shadow at one time or another.

Two-Face and Penguin – Both Crime Lords extended their reaches as far as they could, living as medieval kings in their territories—with a near total feudal system in operation. The original gang members being akin to landed knights or lords in the new system, and the helpless civilians trapped within the territory became their serfs.

Jokers – the Jokers gang was possibly the most dangerous, marking their territory with joker-venom laden civilians and bystanders—often impaled on makeshift pikes or rigged with venom-laced traps. They ran berserk through the streets, reveling in the carnage for almost a full month before settling into a similarly feudal system as that of the other major players. Other gangs—Vultures, Scorpions and others—held onto territories of their own but were absorbed into one crime lord or other territory.

Poison Ivy – Poison Ivy was first captured by Clayface and held captive in her home. Batman freed her two months in, and she took over the parks and channels between them, turning them into fruitful gardens for the city (a "Neutral Zone") as Batman’s boon for freeing her. Her “Gang” is actually dozens of orphaned children created during the panic and destruction. She did not release them after No Mans Land, however. When the police came to ‘rescue the children’, she resisted them, growing thorny protective vines around her home before sending the children into the spirit world to escape.

Morlocks – The Morlocks, already underground, suffered greatly from the attack and were forced in part to the surface. They took in some more people after a while, but the stress got to Marrow quickly. They allied themselves with the Batman but kept their homes distinct as they remained underground for the most part—and their enemies the CHUDs began appearing on the surface thanks to all the chemical and radioactive material the two Kaiju left in their wake.

Other Dangers:

Because of the radiation and mutative alien DNA of the Ogdru-hem King Ghidorah, many mundane creatures were mutated. Roaming throughout the city—peaking in population in the central months of the event—are many monsters: Giant Mutated Vermin (Ants, Rats, Slugs, Bats, Rabbits, Spiders), Ghouls, CHUDs, Lepus Gigas, and a population of Triffids (at Poison Ivy’s beck and call). These beasts hunt and haunt the rubble, abandoned homes and ruins of No Man’s Land, preying on each other and unfortunate humans alike.

Abandoned Dogs also roam in packs through the streets looking for food where they can. As time goes on, they grow more and more feral and that can include people. Cats quickly turn to wild natures as time goes on. Though not dangerous, they can scratch a player who’s not careful. Feral Dogs, however, operating in a pack, is the Wolf of No Man’s Land. These packs range in size from 3 to 10 on average.

#Batman: Cataclysm #No Man's Land #Batman #Batman No Man's Land #Godzilla 2000 #Marc Cerasini #CHUD #Morlocks #Setting

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sporkberries · 1 year

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Robin(1993) is a comic where things happen

#the 90’s and early 00’s were a wonderful awful time #seriously like tim’s robin years are insane #man lost his mom got a step mom went to 8 schools dated like 3 girls had all his friends die #had his dad threaten batman with a gun poisoned lady shiva his dad died #he made up an uncle!!!#went to fucking boarding school #SNUCK INTO NO MANS LAND #survived an ebola epicemic #helped form a super hero team #it just keeps going #dc #tim drake #robin #spork art #1k #5k

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lemonlimestar · 2 months

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not haunted, infested (helena u will always be a batman to me…)

#helena bertinelli #bart (as in bug art)#the bat #batman #huntress #oooooo u wanna read nml so bad #helena’s there :)#dc #dc comics #batman no man’s land #no man's land

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scintillyyy · 2 months

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anyways it is important that steph grew up in the suburbs. it is important to her story as an outsider of not just the batfam but gotham city itself. her relative isolation in the suburbs means something.

similarly, tim's childhood spent in flux & boarding schools, but his home base being gotham city itself (through his parents' various apartments throughout the city) is also important to his story. gotham city is the epicenter of security for him. he may have to leave sometimes, but it is the place where he returns home, where he has any semblance of 'this is home' (until they move out to bristol ofc, and that becomes home). he grew up in the city, many different parts of it. that's important!!

#anytime i read something that says steph grew up in the city and tim in the suburbs-#jack's reluctance to move out of the bustle of the city out to the outskirts in bristol my beloved #batman 480 & batman 481 my beloveds #there is also an interesting interconnectedness between bristol & gotham city #that doesn't exist between other suburbs of gotham & gotham also means something 2 me #steph wasn't touched by contagion #she was sent to a shelter also in the suburbs during cataclysm #during no man's land she was firmly outside of gotham the entire time #the circles are circling

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kermit-coded · 3 months

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what if i threw up!!

#ough if i think about bruce and dick for too long i explode #soda speaks #dc #dc comics #no man's land #dick grayson #nightwing #batman #bruce wayne #batfam

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