Jasonn : What have I done wrong?!

Jupiter : Everything. For your entire life.

not sure if anyone's asked you this before/yet, but so you have any opinions or thoughts of the relationship between all of the pantheons? general relationship and possibly some more personal ones?

I've read many different headcanons and fanfiction where people have mentioned their thoughts on it, but nothing they've ever gone into detail about.

there's nothing really preventing them from interacting *👀 I keep remembering the smallest tiniest hint of freypollo we got* but that doesn't mean they go out of their way doing it, yk?

OKAY SO-

The pantheons I'll be mainly focusing on are the Greek, Roman, Norse, & Egyptian ones. I'll probably make little nods to other ones too tho :3

Don't be surprised if this mainly centers on Apollo XD He's my guy <3

GREEK & ROMAN

Let's kick it off with these two!

"But aren't they the same-?"

Nope! The Roman pantheon started off as their own sets of gods - the thing is, they had very little myths written down so we don't know much about how they were characterized :(

Howmever. We do know that when they were synchronized with Greece's gods, you can see the little differences between them - for instance, the Roman gods were more Forces Of Nature than gods who went out and Did Stuff, like Greece's.

Jupiter for example! He didn't have the "fucks around" rep Zeus does! Jupiter from the Roman's perspective didn't go out and do much. He rooted on Aeneus, yes, but the myths of his children weren't quite as popular in Rome as they were in Greece (probably because they were. ya know. Greek heroes, and not Roman)

And Apollo. Oh, Apollo...the only major god who didn't have a Latin equivalent.

Rome loved you so much they adopted you and went "no. no. he was always here. no we aren't lying. see? he's in the Dii Consentes!" XD

Fun Fact: Apollo is basically multiple gods in a trench coat. Paion (Mycenean), Smitheus (Mycenean), Aplu (Etruscan), Apaulinus (Hittie), Grannus (Celtic), ect were all Apollo-equivalents who historians have concluded to be past incarnations of Apollo!

which is INTERESTING because...do those gods still exist in the RRverse? Are they connected to Apollo in some way? Are they little voices in his head? DO THEY HAVE DRINKS TOGETHER?

I have questions and I need answers.

Greek & Egyptian

Saving the Norse for last because we all wanna save Freypollo for last <3 the best for last lmao

RIGHT OFF THE BAT I'M GONNA SAY THAT ZEUS DOESN'T LIKE THE OTHER PANTHEONS! I BET HE DOESN'T!

Which sucks for him because Apollo has friends in Egypt XD

I do think Apollo and Horus would be friends! Not only are they both associated with the sun in some way, but they were actually identified with each other when Greece met Egypt!

Greece: Oh so you have a super-powerful son of the king of the gods associated with light? So do we! :D

Egypt: Oh my gosh we do! :D

You know the myth of Typhon? Apollo transformed into a hawk to escape, and you know who has a hawk head?

Horus. :D

also Horus took over the thrown from Osiris - sure, not in an overthrow way but still. he overthrew Set and claimed the throne

sounds like something we all want hmm...

Also, I headcanon that Helios and Ra go WAAAAYYYY back and Apollo only met Ra like. once. before Isis did her blackmailing and Ra disappeared.

SO WHEN RA CAME BACK, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN DURING HOO BTW, APOLLO HAS NO IDEA! HE'S ON DELOS AT THAT POINT! THEN HIS TRIALS!

So when he rolls up to the next sun god meeting he sees Ra and is like "wait what who are you- OH WAIT!"

And Ra's like; "WHO LET THIS CHILD BE PUT IN CHARGE OF THE SUN???"

Apollo: I'm over 4,000 years old-

Ra, pointing: BABY

(Headcanon that Ra & Amaterasu are like. the defacto sun god 'leaders' who keep the meetings rolling. Amaterasu was very tired when Ra disappeared and she had to wrangle these fiery gods together XD)

(Also Helios thought Horus was a lil' upstart XD)

Finally, I also saw someone else mention that Apollo could have learned some Egyptian magic and used it to create the border of CHB!

Headcanon Hecate snuck along with him and it's their little secret :3

Greek & Norse

HERE. WE. ARE.

LEMME GET MY MAP OUT

SO.

Green highlight is where Greece is. Blue is where Hyperborea is (see this post for details)

In that post, I came to the conclusion that Apollo Totally Definitely Has Met Norse Gods BECAUSE OF HIS WINTER VACATIONS!

AND IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE BALTIC SEA-

STOCKHOLM.

AND WHERE DID APOLLO MEET THAT HOT GOD WITH A TALKING SWORD???

A TAVERN. IN. STOCKHOLM!

FREYPOLLO LIVES (<-knows very well it's basically already canon XD)

Fun fact: the people of Hyperborea were most likely the mythological avatars of the Norse people! :D

SO I CONCLUDE-

Apollo takes a trip across the Baltic Sea and flirts in the Stockholm tavern and that's how Freypollo happens <3

Other Pantheon Thoughts

Hindu: This thought came while I was creating my @underrated-lovers-of-apollo-poll - Apollo & Indra!

They shared an elephant ride that one time! Wouldn't it be fun if they also kissed? :3

also Indra is a storm god with thunder and lightning think of the angst-

Shinto: Amaterasu taught Apollo Japanese when he discovered the haiku for the first time - sadly, only Athena ever bothered to learn it to experience the haiku in its fullest. pushing my sibling agenda again haha

Because haikus always sound better in their native language <3

Hittie: This connects to the 'Apollo trenchcoat' thing earlier - if Apollo is like. the current form of Apaulinus, would the Hittie pantheon like. drop in from time to time like 'heyyyy we miss you <3'

Apollo: *trojan war flashbacks*

Apaulinus was heavily associated with Wilusa, whom historians have confirmed was Troy, and Apollo's first temple doesn't show up under AFTER the bronze age collapse and the war happened BEFORE that happened meaning HE WAS APAULINUS WHEN THE WAR HAPPENED MY HEART-

i need to look into more pantheons. it's so much fun making these connections and coming up with headcanons for the RRverse :3

What do you think it would be like if Jupiter/Zeus cared about Jason? He didn't win a father of the year award but at least he cared about Jason

See that's the thing, I think Jupiter/Zeus do care about Jason.

Thalia has described Jupiter as being more fatherly than Zeus. And yet Jason had never met Jupiter.

Because it's against the rules, he's never met him because he doesn't want to get attached. The life of a demigod is a hard one, and it's easier to watch from afar that get involved.

And yet, the one time (I believe) Jason prays to his father for assistance. Jupiter doesn't show up but he sends down lighting to annihilate Jason's foe.

Zeus seems to treat Jason like he would any other demigod. He may have gotten mad Jason spoke out against him, but he never attacked or punished him for it.

It's the bare minimum but it's there.

Jason: How come we never do any father son activities?

Jupiter, idly: We do sometimes. What about that time I watched you get out of that thing?

Jason, making a face: You mean when I was born?

Jupiter: Yeah. That was fun.

my personal pet peeve is when the pjo fandom (and rick himself) keep calling zeus jason's father, because no he's not, that's jupiter!

this is strange. and exciting. And that's a good thing. Jupiter wants to capture every moment of this in his mind. Hold hands and do not kiss, lie down next to each other, belly to belly, do not touch with your hands, light kisses on the temple, cheek, forehead, crown, soft hugs on the shoulders and lie on each other's lap. It's much more than just friendship, but less than romance, Jupiter is still amazed by this closeness, and that's more than enough for him. Perseus is beautiful, but Jupiter does not want to share a bed with him, instead he hugs him around the waist and rests his head on his shoulder as he prepares cupcakes in the kitchen to give them to a young single mother who recently moved into his apartment building. And they hardly talk. Although they don't need to talk, Jupiter understands too easily when Perseus doesn't want to hug, Perseus understands when Jupiter wants a kiss on the forehead. They drink champagne on Friday nights, watching some silly romantic comedy, Perseus' laughter sounds soft and unobtrusive like the first song of spring birds, their hands sometimes touch it causes pleasant goosebumps, Jupiter reads Percy aloud, Percy sings to him. They fall asleep under a warm blanket, lying incredibly close, it is pleasant to feel Perseus' warm breath on his nose. This is good, incredibly good, but Jupiter understands that he is not enough and that he is not the one who is needed. Perseus is getting better, but he still locks himself in the bathroom and sits there for hours clutching Jason's photo to his chest. His quiet sobs make Jupiter's nonexistent heart bleed. He finds a solution pretty quickly, it's simple, time-tested and correct, Jupiter is sure of it. During the next winter solstice, he asks Pluto, who is surprised, but quickly agrees and gives the order to Mercury. Mercury brings the treasured bottle of shining golden liquid a few weeks later. And Jupiter gets to work - it's difficult, especially difficult because it's not the essence of his divinity, but the essence of the soul and the divine principle of his son, labour lasts all night. The boy, blond, with pale smooth skin, so similar to Beryl and possessing wonderful eyes of Perseus, makes his first cry along with the first rays of the sun. Jupiter does not show any feelings for him, does not hold him to himself and does not calm him down, he does not belong to him, although he wants to - he just wraps the newborn in a soft blanket and puts it in a basket. Perseus first presses the baby to his chest and then raises gentle, somewhat melancholy eyes to him. He had already accepted that he would most likely become the father of a demigod. Jupiter shakes his head, No, he's not ours, he's yours and Jason's. Perseus changes before his eyes, his face brightens with happiness, his eyes become many times brighter, a wide smile oozing with delight dissects his face, he sobs, kissing the baby on the forehead. Jupiter is leaving, there is no place for him anymore, the time they spent with Perseus is over, now there is only a small family of a young father and a newborn son, he has a grandson and needs to come to terms. The storm is raging from his suppressed feelings, Juno is waiting for him in the bedroom, she is full of determination and tenderness at the same time, it is strange and similar to Perseus. "This is our boy," Juno says, taking his face in her palm, "Mine, yours, Jason and Perseus, he our boy."

Hey, hello! could you please rate and voice your opinion about my letter - beginner anon.

Shared parentage is an awesome way to go. I’m slightly concerned for the baby because of al the gods involved in his creation but Percy has always been deserving of fatherhood.

Juno and Jupiter being soft in the boy who’s technically their grandson would be adorable but Percy would probably defend the baby with everything he has.

Jason: The moon controls the tides and the human psyche. Wolves know that, that’s why we howl at her.

Jason: It’s tribute.

Therapist: Hm.

Therapist: Let’s talk about your father.

Jason: No.

The meaning of the name Lester Papadopoulos

I've talked about how names in the Riordanverse have power and how Zeus chose Lester's name to reduce his power. Now it's notable what Lester's name actually means. In English, the name Lester derives from Leicester which means fortified place (additional reference). Some sources say the name meaning originates from campers on the river Legra. In Latin the name Lester means legion's camp. I'm sure I don't need to go into detail about this since the meaning's relation to Apollo is already pretty obvious. Lester, the name, is a reference to Camp Half-Blood/Camp Jupiter. Zeus' way of telling Apollo that he is no more important than those demigods at the camps and that camp is where he now belongs, not Olympus.

Papadopoulos means son of a priest. Zeus isn't exactly a priest, but he is certainly a high up religious figure who priests worshipped. Papadopoulos is a reminder to Apollo that he is and always will be Zeus son regardless of whether he's Lester or not. It's Zeus' way of saying that Lester is his property.

Also, Papadopoulos is the most common Greek surname. It's how Zeus tells Apollo that he's no longer special, he's just another mortal -- a commoner whose only notable attribute (in Zeus' opinion) is his father.

If Camp Half-Blood and Camp Jupiter were to fight CHB would win. This is based solely on the fact that they actually know how to think outside the box.

They’re also crazy.

percy would legit be one of the hardest ppl to get over if you had any type of feelings for that man

like swear you’d like be waiting for him to do smth bad or look ugly waiting for that ick and IT WOULD NEVER COMEEEE

like if you look at nico bro is SCRAPING THE BARREL for ANYTHING to dislike abt percy

percy smiles a little too bright nico has to turn away and mentally remind himself that percy was one of the last ppl to see his sister alive

rachel legit can’t like him so she probably just watches from afar and she’s chill anyway

if calypso found out percy planted that little flower she gave him and subsequently learned he liked planting and kept that flower alive in her memory??? ITD BE WRAPSSSSSSS

like percy is legit just such a good person that anytime someone has a crush on him 🙏🏼 thoughts and prayers bc that crush is haunting you for the rest of your life

ik moving to new rome is gonna kick start that too bc i feel like chb everyone’s gotten used to him yk everyone’s like “sigh there’s percy and his beautiful face and nice laugh and good morals and self sacrificing ways sigh annabeth sure is lucky love those two together tbh”

but now they’re being introduced to all these new ppl who have to learn that percy is simply percy and bro is wifed up

percy, as he arrived at camp jupiter, in his amnesiac era: Hi! im percy. do i know you?

nico, professional gaslighter since the 1940's, sweating bullets: I've never met this man in my life.

It's common trivia that the children of the Big Three have ironic fears.

Percy, son of the sea, fears suffocation.

Hazel, daughter of wealth, fears precious ore.

Nico, son of the underworld, fears the dark.

Bianca, daughter of death, feared dying.

Thalia, daughter of the sky, fears heights.

And though we don't get much screentime with Jason's past, I loved him feeling crushed under the expectations as a son of Jupiter, trained from 2 years old, and volunteered as Praetor.

The son of the king of the gods feared leadership.

Mischaracterizing Nico di angelo as some 'shy gay boi' instead of a teen who was raised in homophobic, early dictatorship 1924 Italy is gross.

Nico isn't shy or embarrassed about his queerness the boy has internalized homophobia, 1920s Italy was not a safe place for queer people and Nico's early experience with queer people was likely seeing them belittled, berated or abused.

I would put actual money on saying that Nico's first reaction to his own or others queerness isnt embarrassment or confusion but revulsion, fear, shame or hate for it, especially after dealing with feelings of isolation and otherness from both Camp half blood and Camp Jupiter.

He isn't some cutesy shy boy who gets flustered he's a teenager struggling to accept and understand himself after, in his formative years, most likely being told what he feels is wrong, shameful or unnatural.

(also not to mention the culture shock it would've been for him to see queerness an gayness being accepted in the 21st century and in both ancient Greek/Rome an how he'd have to rationalize that with his already made world view)

Beryl: I think Juno’s trying to kill me because of Jason. You need to do something about him.

Jupiter, grumbling: I’ll never understand how something that came from inside of you became my responsibility.

The Greeks would've easily won the Camp Jupiter vs Camp Half Blood battle. Not because of any logical, strategic reasons though. Its because they're batshit crazy

gentle reminder that jason grace sincerely thought that becoming a tree was a puberty thing for all Zeus kids, and lowkey freaked out + Annabeth started cackling at that. He is such a himbo I love him sjsks