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brainzz · 2 years

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i just wanna start off by saying that this isnt a pro mileven rant, not a pro monologue tag, definitly not me saying that i think el and maxs relationship doesnt need more developement or ANYTHING LIKE THAT okay so if u are gonna feel like arguing just know that ill block u bc i really dont feel like arguing abt this

the take that saving max should be enough motivation for el makes me so sad. like obviously she wants to. but shes been thru literal hell and back and shes so exhausted.

can we do a recap? her dad dies. she needs to move away from everything she knows and has been learning to know for the past couple of years. she feels like a weirdo in this new place. she feels like her bf doesnt love her because he doesnt use words to show it and els used to being loved thru words only because thatsthe only way people loved her for most of her life becuase nobody every cared abt her enough to do anything else. now apart from this emotional stuff shes got going on, her already feeling like shit abt herself, this literal kid has once again the pressure to save everyone and everything. she goes back to being the lab subject she so badly fought to stop being, not to mention the man that made her life hell is there, watching it all and she needs to trust him fully. she goes thru seeing and reliving her awful childhood, when even people like her though she was a freak. she trusts henry, shes happy to know hes like her and they understand each other. only to realize hes the cause of all of the bad shit that has happened since she left the lab. but she still blames herself because shes the one who opened the gate in the first place. so basically all of her wounds reopened and her life is going to shit and everyone and everything she loves is in danger. and she now needs to save max. what the fuck is she suppoed to do?? theres this 15 year old girl who feels like and unlovable monster who is the cause of everything and anything bad. and now??? the life of her best friend???? is directly on her hands????

why is it so bad for her to need verbal confirmation that shes loved unconditionally, that shes strong, that she can do this, that shes not a monster? maybe you didnt like the monologue itself. maybe you dont like mileven. whatever. you can not like either. but going as far as saying that it was unecesary for her to recieve those kind of words?

not to point out again, that el has gained her strength from anger so far. this time, her strength is coming from love. shes fighting not out of spite, not out of repressed feelings, but out of love, out of wanting to be a superhero because she feels like living and loving.

idk people disliking that just makes me so sad.

#also this not being a mileven rant doesnt mean i dont absolutly love mileven and the monologue i really really do but its not about this #i just belive el hopper deserves happiness #st takes #stranger things #stranger things 4 #stranger things season 4 #mileven #mike wheeler #el hopper #eleven #jane hopper #the monologue scene #11 hopper

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ultimateanna · 3 months

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Stranger Things (season 1)

Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown)

Dr. Martin Brenner (Matthew Modine)

Mike Wheeler (Finn Wolfhard)

Dustin Henderson (Gaten Matarazzo)

Lucas Sinclair (Caleb McLaughlin)

Will Byers (Noah Schnapp)

Jonathan Byers (Charlie Heaton)

Nancy Wheeler (Natalia Dyer)

Police Chief Jim Hopper (David Harbour)

Joyce Byers (Winona Ryder)

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lesbians4yoohyeon · 1 year

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imagine one night when el & max are having a sleepover, max looks at the clock and says "it's 11:11!!" and el is like "yes? i am here" visibly confused with the little confused look she does and they sit there for a second just staring at each other until max giggles and explains what 11:11 is to el. then one day all the party is together hanging out in the wheelers basement, el gets up off the couch, excitedly exclaims out of nowhere "it is me me time!! you need to make a wish everyone!!!" and everyone is just like ???? until mike is like "what are you talking about?!" with his hands thrown up in the air and max facepalming. then el is like "it is time to make a wish. 11:11? do you know it?" and everyone ahhhs in realization while max just sits there facepalming, her face as red as a tomato before she gently pulls el's arm to have her sit back down next to her. then el is sitting there confused looking around, then whispering to whispering to max "did i say something wrong?" and max whispers back "no, no. everyone is just... boring. that's all." and el ahhs in acknowledgement, going back to sitting shoulder to shoulder with max as if nothing happened.

(after that, wherever el is, she always checks if it's 11:11. when it is, each time she says "it is me me time!! make a wish everyone!!")

#stranger things #elmax #el hopper #max mayfield #the party #y'all idk what this is #i just had a thought #like i wonder if el knows what 11:11 is?#and it would be so cute if max told her during one of their sleepovers #i have so many more imagines/aus of the party saying or doing goofy shit i need to write them all on here omg #but yeah. el is so cute #and max just let's her continue doing that and saying it that way bc why not? it's cute plus she's not doing anything wrong so 🤷‍♀️#st scenarios #st hcs #st headcanons #stranger things headcanons #stranger things hcs #elmaxisms

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shit-talker · 1 year

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If the boys from the black phone were all 1 friend group griffin would have the biggest scary dog privilege ever. Nobody would bother that guy. Ever.

Vance - literally the toughest guy around, has and will beat kids up over a pinball game, has been arrested, probably on multiple occasions.

Robin - the second toughest guy around, has and will beat up bullies and anyone who talks shit, fears no god.

Bruce - owns at leats one bat, best baseball player there is, popular as fuck, could probably ruin your life with a single rumour

Finney - actually killed a guy with a phone cord, doesn't give two shits about anything, has a sister who will throw rocks at you for fun.

Billy - is the local paper boy. He has your address. He knows where you live. He will find you.

#the black phone #black phone #finney blake #griffin stagg #billy showalter #vance hopper #robin arellano #bruce yamada #ethan hawke #like i wouldn't mess with him #would you??#those boys could probably hide a body #and he's what? like 11 or 12??#thats power

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chirpsythismorning · 6 months

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The Bizarre Love Triangle playlist is finally here!

📝 ☎️ 🎨 🛼 🌈⏮️ 🫀 💡

I've been working on this playlist for almost a year now, sharing piece by piece slowly with gifs accompanied by lyrics, which are meant to encapsulate what I think each of these characters were feeling at the time. This playlist goes in order narratively, so if you want the full experience, be sure to click start below to see where it all begins!

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Tracklist

You're the Inspiration

Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow

This Is the Day

The Great Pretender

You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'

Who Can It Be Now?

I Need You

Bizarre Love Triangle

You've Really Got a Hold of Me

I'm Not In Love

Words

Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word

Dust in the Wind

I've Been Losing You

I Want to Break Free

Enjoy the Silence

Secret

Always on My Mind

The Chain

It's Too Late

How Can I Be Sure?

Alone Again (Naturally)

Alone

Just the Two of Us

The Promise

Never My Love

At Your Best (You Are Love)

Landslide

Wouldn't It Be Nice

The Flame

Is This Love

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?) - BONUS TRACK

I Know There's Something Going On

Slippin' Through My Fingers

More Than Words

If I Can't Have You

What You Won't Do for Love

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Time For Me To Fly

I Will Survive

Blue Moon

If You Leave

Somebody to Love

Don't Dream It's Over

#bizarre love triangle playlist #stranger things #happy stranger things day #a present from me to you!#byler #platonic elmike #willel twins #mike wheeler #will byers #el hopper #music #things to know:#-- you have to be familiar with the color theory to understand why I chose: red for el / blue for mike / yellow for will #-- some songs fit perfectly for the moment while others only have like one or two lines that fit so keep this in mind #-- there are a few songs that have titles that match the title/context of the songs that follow them and that was merely a coincidence #-- it would've been cool if el getting track 11 / will getting track 12 was a coincidence but that was entirely intentional <3 #-- will and el both have 13 songs while mike has 17 songs #that's bc this playlist actually started out as a mike playlist with the same title bc bizarre love triangle is just literally his pov #but then i came across songs that fit really well with both will and el's pov and so i switched it to a trilogy of sorts #there also just happen to be a lot more songs that match with mike's pov more than the other two #el's pov is a lot of questioning whether your s/o loves you back and the shift from that to letting go and being happy/moving on #so there's only so many songs that fit into that #will's pov is sort of loving wholeheartedly in the most pure way while also feeling like that person will never return those feelings #there are a lot of love songs from that pov but more often than not they have lyrics that fit more with mike's pov than will's #there's definitely songs on here that fit with both will and mike's pov but it just turned out it fit mike's more in the moment #mike's pov is sort of a mixture of both will and el's where he assumes his love is unrequited / has fears about letting go of what he knows #mike's pov is also not in the forefront in s4 as much as we're used to it being previously so this offers a nice glimpse into his thoughts #-- the bonus track contains the pov of the entire bizarre love triangle and it's epic #-- also keep an eye out for some special features!#Spotify

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henrysglock · 8 months

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Olivia Dunham (Fringe, circa 1985)

El Hopper (Stranger Things, circa 1986)

It's a reference, your honor!

#fringe #stranger things #el hopper #olivia dunham #subject 13 vs number 11

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deepenny · 1 year

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I saw someone looking for the Stranger Things 2 posters on twitter and I am a media hoarder so here you go

Part 2/3

#stranger things #stranger things 2 #will byers #noah shnapp #11 #el hopper #jane hopper #millie bobby brown #lucas sinclair #caleb mclaughlin #max mayfield #sadie sink #dustin henderson #gaten matarazzo #mike wheeler #finn wolfhard #netflix

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purpleangelsele · 11 months

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I’m sorry but-

How tf is El not already an independent individual who can make her own decisions. Yeah she might not know much when she met Mike but that doesn’t negate the way she feels for him even when she couldn’t put her feelings into words yet. She’s not stupid evidently.

So can other shippers stop claiming she can’t be in a relationship because of her limited knowledge of love?? She can be in a healthy relationship with Mike because she feels happy with him. Why take that away just to promote other ships and claim that she will be better alone. Like she wasn’t separated from him enough times in the fucking show.

She is happy and in love with him.

Let. It. Go.

-Sel💜

#mileven #mike wheeler #el hopper #mike x el #pro mileven #pro el hopper #let her live #and actually figure things out for herself #doesn’t mean Mike is bad for her #they both deserve to be with eachother #because they both learn more about themselves while with eachother #it’s not a bad thing to be inexperienced in love #-not everyone is a fucking expert especially if they’re 11-12 years old #they have the longest relationship in the show though because they both want to be in this relationship #no one is forcing her #and no one is forcing him #my post

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canigohomenoow · 1 year

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manifesting being in my promising scruffy young teen with a troubled backstory and a mouth on them who is on a mission and accidently finds an unwilling father figure but then you both secretly grow to like each other over the course of life or death situations era

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ultimateanna · 3 months

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Stranger Things (season 3)

Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown)

Mike Wheeler (Finn Wolfhard)

Lucas Sinclair (Caleb McLaughlin)

Will Byers (Noah Schnapp)

#stranger things #stranger things 3 #eleven hopper #jane hopper #jane ives #eleven stranger things #stranger things eleven #eleven #11 #011 #millie bobby brown #will byers #noah schnapp #lucas sinclair #caleb mclaughlin #mike wheeler #finn wolfhard

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chirpsythismorning · 2 years

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One of the most common misconceptions about ST is that Hopper is the one who started the whole ‘leave the door open 3 inches’ thing as an overprotective father. When in reality… it was Mike, the boy who is constantly paralleled to said overprotective father…

#stranger things #mike wheeler #mike and hopper parallels #elmike #i love them so much #they’ve been right in front of us all along #protector/guardian vibes #girl was legit 11 and just broke out of a lab… she needed a home and a family… not a bf #nah why is he giving of platonic protective vibes #like bffr #byler

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himynameis4 · 1 year

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Upsidedown 10 Dimensions Theory

Okay, with the recent flood of dimension/time travel theories following Stranger Thing’s references to A Wrinkle in Time, Interstellar, Arrival, etc, (espec w/ @will80sbyers theories which are super interesting so GO READ THEM), I decided to toss my hat into the ring.

What if the Upsidedown as we see it—the one that mirrors Hawkins, the one that’s “stuck” on November 6th, 1983—isn’t just an “alternate dimension,” but another timeline? A timeline where November 6th was the day that everything was destroyed?

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^ This video was my first introduction to dimensions, time travel, dimensional travel, etc. Perhaps there’s a better video breaking it down out there, but this video has shaped my understanding of the dimensions.

If you don’t want to watch the video, here’s a mildly-butchered explanation of the relevant dimensions.

3rd Dimension—*our* dimension, the one we all exist within, which has length, width, and depth

4th Dimension—Time, think of it as *our* Timeline

5th Dimension—Multiple Timelines

6th Dimension—dimension above the fifth

I don’t really have a good way to explain the 6th dimension, and I do recommend watching the video—I’ll probably be consuming more dimension-related explanations to get a better grasp on the concepts, but here’s the basics.

To travel through a dimension, you fold the dimension above it.

The travel through the 3rd dimension, for example, you’d fold the 4th dimension, Time. But folding time, you could travel throughout space instantaneously—in no time at all.

If you want to travel through Time—specifically, *our* timeline, you’d fold the 5th dimension (Timelines, plural).

If you wanted to travel throughout Timelines (the 5th dimension)—alternate “universes” where things are ever so slightly different, where perhaps you have brown eyes instead of green, or you got a promotion instead of getting fired (or, on a grander scale, the dinosaurs never went extinct)—you’d have to fold the 6th dimension, because you’re trying to travel throughout the 5th dimension.

So… after I reviewed how dimension/dimensional travel/time travel could theoretically work (assuming stranger things chooses semi-realism), one thing was bothering me—which dimension is El folding when she creates portals to the upsidedown? And which exactly *is* the upsidedown, anyway?

If El was folding the 4th dimension, Time, then the Upsidedown would have to be a physical location in space, in our universe. Another planet, maybe, or something like it. But why would another planet mirror Hawkins exactly? Could Venca/Henry have transformed the planet to match Hawkins?

If so, why?? And why have the upsidedown exactly resemble Hawkins on November 6th, even though time hasn’t ACTUALLY stopped flowing in the Upsidedown?

Because we know time isn’t actually flowing differently in the Upsidedown and the Rightsideup. If it was flowing at a different rate, for example, Nancy and the Hawkins crew wouldn’t have been able to coordinate their attack against Venca, because time wouldn’t have been moving properly for the crew in the Upsidedown.

Not to mention, we know that the place El banished Henry to didn’t look like the Upsidedown.

This is where Henry landed:

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This is the Upsidedown Will & El see:

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So, what gives?

From the beginning of Stranger Things, when Mr. Clarke broke was explaining theoretical science to the boys after Will’s funeral in Season 1, these alternate locations were framed as “universes.” Mr. Clarke talks about multiple worlds, infinite variations on one another. What he’s describing sounds an awful lot like the multiple timelines that exist in the 5th dimension.

(Here’s a link to Mr. Clarke if you wanna rewatch that for reference:

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His explanation is obviously crafted to fit the show, especially with the talk of “tears” and “gates,” but it matches up.)

So. The Upsidedown could be an alternate universe, a variation on our own. Aka another timeline.

If it is another timeline, then that means El and Henry’ve been folding the 6th dimension when they create their doorways.

(Theoretically they—or another character like Will—could learn to fold the 4th and 5th dimensions, to teleport and time travel, but that’s a different conversation).

If the Upsidedown is this other universe, other timeline, why is it how it is? And how did it transform from the “realm” Henry was banished to, into a warped mirror of hawkins?

Well, what if the realm Henry was banished to wasn’t the upsidedown at all?

From here on out, we’ll be calling the realm El sent Henry to after the Hawkins Lab Massacre “Henry’s Realm,” because Henry refers to it as a realm in his monologue to El & it simplifies things.

So, in the very first video I linked, the narrator says that by traveling back in time—ie folding the 5th dimension to travel through the 4th—a person can create a new branch/timeline.

Well, if something as simple as bending the 5th dimension can result in a new timeline, what about someone making a gate through the 6th dimension?

Essentially, my theory is that the upsidedown is an alternate timeline of Hawkins—one that potentially deviated from the timeline our heroes are in (the Rightsideup) on November 6th, 1983.

Here’s how I think it could have happened:

El makes contact with the demogorgon, and, as a result, Henry

A gate starts to open between the Rightsideup and Henry’s Realm because of this mind-contact

The process of opening a gate via bending the 6th dimension creates a deviation in the rightsideup’s timeline (if you watched the video with Mr. Clarke, imagine his paper plate being folded in half, and then one half of the paper plate being folded again—now, when the pencil tears a gate through the plate, there are three holes)

There now exists a gate between Henry’s Realm and this deviated timeline, as well as the deviated timeline and the Rightsideup

Due to the direct connection to Henry’s Realm (unlike the rightsideup) this deviated timeline experiences an immediate influx of toxic chemicals & vine growth that rapidly shape the terrain (killing all human life & most other organic life, as well, but leaving things such as Nancy’s journal behind). This results in the rapid creation of the upsidedown

Henry sends a single demogorgon through to explore the newly-created upsidedown (aka the deviated timeline), and has said demogorgon continue on to the rightsideup, to our El, our timeline, and the lab

By the time Will arrives in the upsidedown, the initial chemical reactions that took place and resulted in the destruction/creation of the upsidedown have already occurred. There are other toxic chemicals remaining, but nothing lethal enough to instantly turn Will to ash

El, when she banished the demogorgon at the end of the season, banishes it to Henry’s Realm. This is why it’s not in the upsidedown when she wakes up in the upsidedown.

Okay, that was a lot, and i know it. I also don’t know how clear i was (sorry about that). There are a few reasons I think this makes sense, though.

For one, there’s only the one demogorgon in season one. We don’t see any demodogs, etc., or any evidence of the mindflayer. If the upsidedown was newly created, it makes sense that moving from Henry’s Realm to the Upsidedown would be a process done over time, which is why the shifting colors of the upsidedown (more reds in season 4) & the sudden appearances of demobats make sense, as more and more of Henry’s Realm’s creatures shift dimensions.

We saw the way the clouds in season four rotted organic material, and the way Jason practically dissolved.

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Both times, the dissolving happened very rapidly.

Then again, the upsidedown could be an alternate timeline without being an alternate timeline directly created by the opening of the gate on November 6th. Maybe it’s a mystery, how it became what it is now—all they know is that something happened in that timeline’s November 6th, and that until that point, the timeline was similar enough to our own for Nancy’s journal entries to be exactly the same.

Either way, i love the idea of the upsidedown being the sight of… well, not a natural disaster, exactly, but you get the idea. Like, hey, that journal belonged to a version of Nancy who’s dead now, along with alternate timeline versions of everyone we know and love plus the entire rest of the world, and it’s very likely we could see a similar destruction of our timeline if we don’t stop Venca/prevent more of these toxins from entering via the gates.

Not to mention the idea that, hey, Venca was banished to an alternate timeline, will we have to deal with alternate timeline versions of him? Does everything we do every trigger an alternate timeline? Is an alternate timeline created every time El opens a gate?

Basically, playing more with time and space and reality.

Idk if i explained this clearly enough, but i’m having a lot of fun with this concept! If anyone has any similar/alternate thoughts, or reasons they think this couldn’t work, please share!! I love talking ab this stuff lol.

(Edit: @givehimthemedicine bc ik you do a lot of how-the-upsidedown-works theorizing lol)

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