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Okay. So the bad batch teaser is out and many fans have rightfully called out star wars out on the clones still being whitewashed. In response to this outcry, the bad batch stans have called out these angered fans for being overdramatic, stupid and theatrical, all over a cartoon. And while poc don't have a responsibility to teach you just how a cartoon can have an impact on us, I want to give it a try from my perspective. Its a bit long but try would you?

So, I'm brown, desi, and darker than most desis so I've basically been identified as the unfortunate child who didn't end up with the right genes in the family. Desi culture is obsessed with white skin, no surprise keeping in mind the British's involvement, but that's not the point. As a child, I really pissed off my parents for not bleaching my skin regularly and not washing my face ten times a day because by then, I considered any form of skin care as an evil. I hated that I had to do it all to get whiter and so I rebelled against any form of skin care. I hated all the damned whitening creams that were meant to make me beautiful because while it wasn't being stated explicitly, I was ugly for being darker.

In the 90s and 2000s, Desi movies from Pakistan and India showcased darker actresses as the ugly girl in the movie. The one who wanted the guy but wouldn't get him. The one who was pining for a guy who was however pining for the pretty white desi girl. And even if the dark girl somehow did end up winning the heart of the hero, it wasn't because he thought she was beautiful... it was because she had a great personality or was kind or whatever. But despite everything, watching Rani Mukherjee on screen, who I saw myself in, made me feel all sorts of giddy. When she did get the guy and he did tell her he loved her and she did get the happy ending, I believed it was possible for me too, despite being told by every passing aunt and uncle that I'd have a hard time getting a guy, if at all. Rani Mukherjee's presence on screen gave me hope because it told me that I could exist in this fucked up world and expect some form of happiness.

This sole example kept me going for a very long while. I'm not saying it helped me forget everything that had been engrained into my head for the first thirteen years of my life. It didn't make me rethink everything or made me more confident in my own skin. It didn't make me embrace my color, or my features, or my nose or my darker lips. But I knew I didn't have to be ashamed of the way I looked. And that there was more beauty in this world than the Eurocentric beauty I had been forced to accept as the only beauty since I was born . Seeing someone who looked like me has made a difference! This one person's presence on screen helped!

So, for those of you who are screaming out louder than the fans who are very rightfully angered by the whitewashing of the bad batch, you need to stop for a second. If you're white, you've never even had to think about this! That is because every actor in Star Wars looks like you! Bar some aliens and mace windu, the multitude of characters in star wars are white. The greatest jedis, the greatest villains, every skywalker, Kenobi, Rey, Ben Solo, Han, Padme and any other major character you can think of. You don't have to worry about how it feels to not be seen. You've been shown again and again that every princess looks like you and every actress resembles you and every hero has your face!

Polynesians were given a singular chance to see themselves in Star Wars as the clones who were modeled off a polynesian actor. This amazing role that showed us that people of all colors and races do exist! How hard is it to put yourself in our shoes, and empathize for one second, just how awful it feels to see that sole role snatched away ? That out of the millions of stories to tell about the clones, star wars chose to focus on the white versions of the clones. That they actually informed the fans, and proudly might I add, that they chose to model the clones off of white actors? That they went ahead and decided that for some reason it was okay that Tech have a British accent (???). Why is it so hard to understand that its absolutely horrible to see the one role offered to a colored guy, be transformed into a white man who, lets not forget, are supposed to be a new and improved version of the OG clones. And that the only one who most accurately resembles the clones, was made the bumbling brute of the group. And that the young girl who was a copy of Jango is not only blonde, but whiter than any clone ever seen on screens.

Can't you pull yourselves out from your own bubbles for just one second to understand the point of view of those against the bad batch? When they're telling you that the franchise's decision to whitewash one of the few colored characters is hurting them, cant you see why? That when an author tells us it was too hard to bother finding out how polynesian hair works, cant you see why the outrage makes sense? Every decision that star wars makes has an effect on the fans and its absurd for you to negate the impact that media has on all our lives.

#well... this is personal but idk man i think its so obvious why were angry and its so weird to see others say we have no right to be #like theres abolutely nothing in star wars for colored fans except a few examples and you wnat to take that away too?#and offer us nothing but poc as unredeemable villains now?#how can it go over tbb stans heads???#hoooooooooowwwwwwwww?#unwhitewashtbb #the bad batch #the fact that i have seen multiple people argue with me instead of understand my point and tell me its not that big a deal #and that how they as poc still enjoy these shows because tehy dont care?#FINE! DONT CARE! I DO!#But to be spoken over and told to shutup because we are making a big deal out of somehting is just fucked up

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thedepthsoffandomminds · 7 months

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The Subtleties of the Force - Part three

You are from this world, but at a convetion you stumble into the world between worlds, eventually falling into the Star Wars galaxy. Slow burn Anakinxreader content due to reader trying to keep the timeline straight.This is a long one, as I had put all chapters below so strap in. Begins at the start of AOTCFem reader, I hope you enjoy.

Part one here

Darkness knows nothing when it comes to despair. Pain understands naught when it is placed beside hate. Anakin could do nothing, his hands soaked in the blood of people he had loved.

“There is but one way to save them, what is left of your family. You must choose, Skywalker.” The Emperor approached him, a hood covering his now deformed face. Defeated and broken, Anakin looks up at the man he had once thought would be a friend. A man who had enslaved a galaxy of people and taken the person who had given him hope above all others. Killed the man who had trained him and held the life of his Padawan in his hands.

“What must I do?” He asked through tears.

“Become my apprentice and destroy the Jedi order.”

“I can’t.”

“You must, or our dear Ahsoka here will die. Will you gamble her life as you did your master’s and the woman you love?”

“You’re a monster.” He growls.

“No, I am an Emperor.” Palpatine cackles. “Make your choice.”

Anakin held your hand in his as he watched the Naboo royal starship break through the atmosphere. He never thought he would see Padme again, not after hearing that she had sided with the Chancellor. Yet here she was standing in her glory, still as beautiful as the first time he had met her. Though he felt nothing but a familial love for her now, his mouth still ran dry. You give his hand a squeeze, attempting to reassure him.

“I haven’t felt you this tense since, well since y/n here fell in the council chambers.” Obi-Wan quipped.

“It has been a long time.” He breathed out.

“We must all be on our guard today. This is unprecedented and may yet prove an unfavourable outcome.” Mace Windu had stepped up beside you, his hand giving your own shoulder a small squeeze as he passed you.

The starship powered down, dropping the landing plank. Padme stood beside Typho and walked down the plank, meeting Mace at the bottom.

“Master Windu, I cannot thank you enough for giving us this sanctuary. These are some trying times.” She spoke with every ounce of Senator she held in her bones.

“You are welcome, Senator. Though there is much to speak about.” Mace tilted his head.

“I agree, there is much I can give you all..” The trio began to walk forward coming up to Anakin, you dropped his hand and took a step backward.

“Husband. It is a pleasure to see you once more.” she placed her hands in Anakin’s.

“I am glad you are well.” He replied. There were no smiles between them and their hands quickly dropped as Padme greeted Obi-Wan and yourself. With no voice you simply nod your head to her.

“Senator, if you wouldn’t mind?” Mace gestured his arm toward the temple.

“Please call me Padme, there is no need for honorifics any longer.” She followed the direction of his arm.

“Something isn’t right.” you think into both Anakin and Obi-wan’s minds.

“The senator is not herself, it may be simple as a fear that we will not accept her. Give it some time, the council will determine what is right. In the meantime, why don’t you and Anakin take a walk?” Obi-Wan suggested before walking away to join the rest of the council. You silently follow Anakin as he walks away, his arms stiff at his sides.

“Anakin, wait please, I cannot keep up.” you call him. The blood pumping in his ears makes it almost impossible for him to hear you as he rushes up the hill side.

“Anakin, please.” You try again, when he still does not stop you halt your steps. Turn on your heel and walk over to a broken tree. You sit down facing away from Anakin. In the month it had taken for Padme to reach Anch-To you had regained much of your strength, but you could not deny how your head would spin at random times and your stomach would flip and wobble at the slightest of things. You lent on your knees resting your head in your hands and breathed slowly through the dizziness. A hand softly rests on your back and rubs a small circle.

“I am sorry y/n. I wish you would see the healers.” Anakin kneels in front of you.

“No, I can’t…I will be fine. I am sure it is just my mind coming back to me. I have regained some of the memories of you and I recently.” You try to lie. Anakin’s hand strokes your face.

“You can be honest with me, I want you to.” his blue eyes glowed in the sunlight that broke through the trees above you. Narrowing your eyes you wet your lips and take in a deep breath. Opening your mouth you try to talk.

“I…I am fi-” Your voice is scratchy and it hurts to make the sounds. Anakin smiles.

“You are the bravest person I know. Do you know that?” He kisses you, “If you say you’re fine then I’ll believe you, for now. Come on. I don’t want to run away and hide from my wife.”

The word stings you slightly but you simply stand and walk alongside him. Anakin folds his arm around your shoulders pulling you tight against his side. Moments like these happened rarely, the moments when you could truly see that Anakin was only twenty two years old. Still so young even after living through a war he could joke and play like a teenager. He could love like only the young can do.

"Anakin?" Ahsoka walked up to you both, "the council wants to see you."

Reluctantly Anakin withdrew his arm, kissing the back of your knuckles and left you with Ahsoka.

You wouldn't see him again for four hours, upon his return he told you that Padme had given intel across to them and Obi-Wan and he were being sent out with a garrison of troopers. Fear bubbled inside you.

"No." You cried the word as tears pricked your eyes.

"I have to, the council has given orders. Ahsoka will be with you and Windu. We will not be gone long." He rubbed your shoulders.

Obi-Wan knocked on the door of your hut. You lunged across to him, pulling him into your body. He hugged you close, tucking his nose against your shoulder.

"It's okay, dear one. We shall be safe." He hushed you and stroked your hair.

Your heart sinks as you watch them fly away. Padme steps up to you.

"Perhaps we can spend some time together, I have so missed you." She linked her arm with yours. You smile awkwardly, unsure of her. Though your mind knew there was history between the pair of you, as yet you could hardly recall any time you had spent together.

"I'm afraid y/n has training this afternoon." Mace Windu placed a hand on your back and guided you away from her. You silently thanked him for helping you, allowing him to lead you into the temple. Ahsoka jogged along behind you both. Mace had become a beacon of light for your darkness over the last month. His tender tones and fast knowledge helped you to keep focus and learn to control your force powers. It was he who had guided you to use the voice of your mind.

"They are both wise and experienced, Obi-Wan and Anakin will return unharmed." He reassured you.

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The mission had gone two weeks too many. Every day you stood in the same place watching the sky above you.

"You cannot will them back to you" Mace stood from his place on the low wall. He places a brown clock over your shoulders as rain begins to fall from the clouds above.

"I have a bad feeling, Master Windu." You look up to him.

"It has never been uncommon for the two of them to change plans."

"I need to go after them, master. I know something is wrong."

He sighs.

"I suppose you have never been wrong before. Alright, take Ahsoka with you." The master agreed.

"I want to go as well. Anakin is my husband after all." Padme crossed her arms over her chest. "Before you protest, I have all the credentials to get you through any blockade out there." She hissed out the words, taking no notice of you as she walked away. Her royal ship is already fueled and ready to go. Mace orders three Troopers to go with you and he hands you a lightsaber.

"I don't know how to use it." You question him.

"When the time comes you will know." He squeezes your hand.

Boarding the ship you cannot ignore the foreboding sense of death falling over you all. You sit beside Ahsoka for the first part of the journey, until she excused herself to get to sleep. It took a few seconds before you noticed Padme sitting down beside you.

“y/n, I wanted to speak with you, we have not had much time since my arrival. I think that is my own doing. I have been so afraid to face any of you, though Obi-Wan has been a great help.” Your silence made her continue to ramble, “I never sided with the Emperor. I was weak when he told me that everyone I loved was a traitor. I was frightened. He told me you were all Sith, I wasn’t sure what to think. But then, when I saw Jar Jar, I couldn't believe it. His eyes were yellow and his anger, I had never seen anything like it.”

You look at her, bringing your hand up to her face and closing your eyes. You feel Padme attempt to pull away but your hold on her mind is instant and you hold her still with the Force. Searching her mind you see it all, every word she had spoken was true, but each memory was clouded in black. Like a dark mist rolling in from the woods. That was when you saw it, a place you hadn’t meant to go, Anakin’s face appearing. Curiosity took the better of you.

“Another lover? How many is that?” He spat out.

“What am I supposed to do, Anakin? You told me all these things about needing me, burning for me and then the moment this war started you couldn’t get away fast enough. You hardly talk to me these days. Only returning here when it suits you.” Padme bit back.

Anakin rounded the small dining table, nostrils flared and ready to fight but he couldn’t. The jedi slumped into one of the chairs and dropped his head.

“You’re right, I have been awful to you,” he admitted.

“I think I understand. When you come here it’s always after you’ve been to the temple or on a mission with Obi-Wan. What happens?” She asked, reaching out to his hand. Anakin pulls away.

The memory lapses and you see another. Anakin and Padme are lying in bed, dark blue sheets resting over their bodies. Something is wrong, anakin is dreaming, his eyes twitching, breathy cries of your name leave his lips. Padme turns, pressing a hand to his shoulder.

“Anakin? Anakin wake up!” He shots up, almost knocking her away. Sweat drips down his face and chest. He looks at her briefly before getting out of the bed and stomping away. She follows.

“Tell me what’s wrong? What do you fear?”

“They are just dreams.” He clenches his jaw trying to hide the tear that drips down his face.

“Anakin, you may not love me but you can trust me, please tell me.” She moves closer to him.

“I dream of her, of y/n, of her dying.”

“Oh Anakin! How? Can we stop it?” Padme asks.

“I don’t know.”

Again the scene changes. Padme is hiding behind a pillar in the senate building when she sees you and Obi-Wan returning from a mission, The chancellor approaches you both with open arms Anakin and Ahsoka flanking him. There is an exchange, pleasantries she cannot hear, though she sees the way he looks at you. His eyes trained on your face, your body, your hands, like he is ensuring you have no injuries. As everyone begins to wander off he grabs your hand and pulls you back. The two of you speak, he holds your face in his hand but you pull away.

Padme pushes you away and you almost fall from the chair. You shake your head, opening your mouth trying to apologise.

“That was unfair.” Padme states, “Did you think I never noticed? He was always in love with you. I didn’t want to see it at first. It was the first thing that changed wasn’t it?” She breathed hard. “You made him use me, pushed us together for what? Nothing came of our marriage.”

“You were supposed to have children.” Ahsoka placed her hand on your shoulder, helping to calm your mind. “Y/n can’t give you answers, the Emperor made sure she lost her voice and her memories, but Anakin told me. In the world y/n comes from the movies showing you and Anakin having children, they save the galaxy from the Sith.”

Both Padme and you look up at the Togruta Jedi.

“y/n thought she was doing what was right for our world. You cannot blame her for anything you and Anakin chose to do afterward.”

Padme shrugs.

“You’re right. I think I will get some rest.” She leaves through the door to the rest of the ship leaving you and Ahsoka alone with the pilot. The now seventeen year old woman sat down beside you.

“Are you okay?” she asked, looking into your eyes.

“She does not hear me.” you glance back in the direction the Senator had gone.

“I feel the same thing you do, y/n. None of this is sitting right with me. We should keep a close eye on her. It all seems too convenient her arrival and sending Obi and Ani away like that.”

“I agree.”

In the silence of your minds the pair of you work out a plan to keep Padme close but out of the loop. By the next morning everyone was ready and the ship dropped out of hyperspeed, approaching the first blockade.

“You’re up Senator.” The pilot called back to her. Padme sat in the copilot seat and began speaking to the blockade.

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“Anakin?” Obi-Wan shifted, feeling his hands bound at the wrist and a heavy weight on his legs. A grunt told him that weight was his friend.

“What’s going on?” Anakin sat himself up while his head spun.

“We appear to have fallen into a trap. We’re better than this, how could it happen?”

“I guess we’re about to find out.” Anakin said, gesturing above them.

A hatch opened and the platform the two men were lying on began to rise upward. A stark brightness blinding them for a moment.

“Welcome to your final fight.” Count Dooku’s voice bellowed round them. General Grievous stood behind him beside Ventress. Surrounding them all was an army of droids.

“Do not worry, you are not here to fight us, but perhaps yourselves.” Dooku laughed.

“We will not fight each other.” Obi-Wan growls.

“Perhaps, we shall see.” the Sith lord waves his hand. The ground begins to move, sections rising and others falling away. A wall begins to rise, pushing the two jedi apart.

“Keep wits about you Anakin!” Obi-Wan calls out to his ex padawan before they are separated.

Anakin takes hold of his lightsaber but does not light it. He waits. The sounds of a cheering crowd can still be heard as a panel opens high in the wall. A puff of smoke comes into the room. Anakin Sees it and holds his breath for as long as he can, but the smoke is too thick and closes in around him. The sharp intake of breath he takes fills his lungs with the smoke. Anakin coughs, dropping to his knees, his sabre rolling away from him.

“What is this?”

“Stand up and fight.” a voice growls to him.

“Who is that? Ventriss?”

There is no answer but laughter. A green mist blows around him and five distorted night brothers stand around him. They attack. Anakin is unable to find his lightsaber through the smoke so has to fight hand-to-hand against the Dathomir zombies. One manages to hit him in the face. Knocking him to the ground. From the new position he can see below the smoke. The zombies are not real.

“A projection?” He whispers to himself. Using the Force to push himself forward Anakin flew off the ground and onto the wall where the projector was mounted. He ripped it from its hook and smashed it on the ground. The smoke cleared.

Holographic words flashed above him.

ROUND ONE COMPLETE

“Wonderful!” He huffed. The ground moved again lifting him up on a small platform with fire bursting out of the perimeter. Four battle droids walked into the room, pointing their weapons at him.

“This is where the fun begins.” Anakin lifted his sabre from the ground, and ignited it. The droids began firing, but it was no match for the Jedi and he destroyed them in seconds. “Too Easy!” He laughed. This time flames sprang from the walls, singing his curls slightly before he could duck out of the way. The floors changed again and more droids stepped out. Seven this time. The flames made it harder for the Jedi to destroy the droids but he was still able to. He laughed again, waiting for the complet round sign when the flames died and the room was plunged into darkness. Anakin heard the panels sliding across the walls and more droids walking in. Above him Viper Probe droids hovered, their red sights the only light in the room.

The firing begins and Anakin does his best to fight them. He takes out the Probe droids first, jumping on their heads and pulling out circuits. As he dropped back to the ground his foot slipped on the edge, sending him down with a thud. Winded Anakin pushed himself to stand, knowing he needed to do something different to win this fight. He closed his eyes and listened. In the quiet he could just hear the cogs and joints moving in the battle droid's arms as they held their weapons out in front of them. Three shots came out and Anakin used his sabre to block them. Again and again they fired until only two were left standing. Anakin waitied once more, he couldn’t tell which droid moved first, their actions simultaneous as two blaster shots flew out toward him. Anakin deflected one but the other hit into his shoulder. He cried out as he lurched forward.

“What?” This was no ordinary blaster, the wound had not been cauterised at all, blood ran down Anakin's arm. He turned to the Droid’s direction, throwing his lit sabre at it. The heavy metal clanked to the ground and the lights went back on.

ROUND TWO COMPLETE

Water fell from the ceiling, pouring like a rain storm had been let in. Anakin tried to cover his head as he retrieved his sabre. Across the room he heard more doors opening the lights had been dimmed once more so it was hard to see who had arrived.

“Anakin?” The female voice was too familiar. Above Padme spotlight lit her up. Her hands bound behind her back she is pushed to the ground.

“What is this? You were safe?” He shouts to her.

Before Padme can answer, the ceiling opens once more and you are lowered into the room. A rope around your unconscious body.

“What?”

CHOSEN ONE - MAKE YOUR CHOICE

Below you a tank of water appears, no it’s not water, he can see that the bubbling liquid is acid. He turns to Padme above her a spiked board hangs. Anakin’s eyes dart around the room so he can see his choice. If he saves his wife the platform she kneels on will drop causing a blade to slice through the rope that holds you. If he saves you and releases you from the rope the spiked board will drop and kill Padme.

“This is ridiculous, you know I would never choose between them.” he growls.

Behind him a new platform rises to his waist height. Upon it stands a box. He has seen this box before, long ago on his home planet of Tatooine. Misbehaving slaves would be forced to put their hands into the box only for it to be sliced off. A punishment for any slave who thought to steal from their masters. Anakin’s throat ran dry. This was his choice. Save his wife, the woman he loved or lose a hand. He knew what he would choose, but his Master’s voice echoed in his mind.

“I will not choose.” Anakin stands stoic in the middle of the room. There had to be some other way. Something he could do to keep you both safe and keep his arm. Resigning himself to his fate Anakin steps up to the box, his fingers resting over the opening. He had seen a man lose his hand this way not long before he was sold by the Hutts. He looks up to you hoping he would feel less if you were holding his eyes. Your body swings lifelessly and he sees your eyes. Realisation Sweeps over him.

“This isn’t real. They aren’t here.” he shouts out to whoever was listening.

ROUND THREE COMPLETE

The bodies are taken away and he stands alone, waiting. The pain in his shoulder is draining him as blood flows freely from the wound. Anakin kneels down with his hand covering the wound as he waits for the next round.

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“How utterly irritating.” Obi-Wan groaned as he straightened himself up. Three rounds of mind tricks had taken little time for him to fight through. Though the last one had been difficult, their captors had not thought it through. Pitting the entire Jedi council against his own life would once have been the exact way to force him to death. Yet, when he saw his Padawan standing amongst them he worked out their mistake.

Obi-Wan stood waiting for the next round as the wall to his left began to lower. Lightsabre held tightly in his hands as he looked round.

“Anakin? Is it you?” he asks quietly.

Anakin lifts his head, sweat pooling around his hairline. He nods.

“It’s me, are you real?”

“Yes, and it appears round four must be done together.” Obi-Wan kneels down beside his friend, peeling Anakin’s hand away from his shoulder. “You have done well, I was lucky to only get caught by the flames.” he joked showing Anakin the singed material of his breeches.

“Some heroes we are.” Anakin tried to laugh, but it came out strangled. “Do you think this will just keep going until they have killed us?”

Obi-Wan’s heart missed a beat when he looked at Anakin. The brave face of the war general had slipped, and two frightened eyes of a child looked to him. He put a hand on Anakin’s good shoulder.

“We will find a way out of here. We always do. Afterall, I need to get you back to y/n before you miss the fun.”

“You know?”

“Of course I know. We are both connected to her in different ways. I am not sure she has realised yet.” Obi-Wan pulled Anakin up to his feet.

“She will not see a healer.” Anakin said.

“I don’t blame her, after the last one.” Obi-Wan tried to joke.

Round four began in a rush of heat, blowing directly above the two men. Hundreds of Droids rolled out around them.

“What do we do? We can’t take them all by ourselves.” Anakin said over his shoulder as they stood back to back.

“Oh you don’t have to, they are just here as backup and to keep you in your place.” Ventriss walked out to them, a smile dancing about her face. Behind her General Grievous, Count Dooku, Savage Opress and three bounty hunters walked in.

“Your fight is with us,” Dooku announced, lighting his sabre.

The fight was fast, people moved in all directions deflecting blaster shots and sabre strikes. Grievous nicked Obi-Wan across his back as Anakin sunk his own lightsaber into Ventress’ chest. There is a moment when Savage has Anakin held against him but with Obi-Wan’s help they struggle away. Anakin has no time to find his bearings as pain comes down on him, his right arm feels like it's held in vise, heat radiating to his elbow. He looks down seeing the red sabre through his hand.

“Anakin!” Obi-Wan calls out, rushing forward. Grievous kicks him to the ground, using the Jedi’s loss in concentration to beat him into the floor. Bloodied Obi-Wan drops, unable to stand. A blaster round shoots through his gut as the bounty hunter, Boba Fett laughs.

“He was to be my kill!” Grievous growled at him.

“NO! OBI-WAN” Anakin tries to rush for his master when his collar is clutched and Dooku lowers his lightsaber through Anakin's arm, slicing it off. The pain is too much for him, and the last thing he sees is an Imperial officer stepping up to Dooku.

“We have them, the Senator and the displaced girl.”

“No, y/n.”

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You stand with hands bound in front of you, Ahsoka on one side and Padme on the other. Palpatine walked toward you, a smile drawn over his face.

“Ahh how lovely to see you all. My dear Padme.” He holds his hands out to her and she takes them. With a wave of his hand the bonds drop from her wrists. “You did well, my dear one. Come, take your place once more at my side.” Padme looks back at you. The apology she mouths leaves a taste of sulphur in your mouth.

“Take the Padawan away, she has been a thorn in the side of my apprentice, he can do as he wishes with her.” He commands one of the guards, who drags Ahsoka away from you.

“Now, I have long awaited our meeting. So much has been told to me, of your grand knowledge. From what I understand you took away my greatest achievement and so I plan on taking away the things you love the most. It was a delight to watch you fall, to lose the very thing that made you special. Tell me, do any of them care now you cannot tell them how to defeat me?” he hissed the words at you, yet, you felt no fear of him. Idiotic you knew it, but something was telling you that he was nothing, that he would be nothing.

"The not talking thing, AHH now that was a bonus… we lost you for a time but I knew my dear Padme, soon to be Empress would not let me down."

Empress? You shoot your eyes to Padme, she was sitting on a small throne, staring in the space before her. A mind trick.

"You're controlling her?" You risk asking him. The Emperor laughs.

"Yeeessss, oh they have taught you well. Now we shall see how well."

Your body stiffens and rises into the air. You tip backward the Emperor holding you in place. The feel of him trying to crawl into your mind felt like rats running on a tin roof, their claws scratching at your lobes. You clench your jaw, pushing against his thoughts. No, that isn't the way. Retreating back into your own mind you start to lock it down. Hiding away any knowledge you have of Anch-To, of Anakin and anyone who could be used against you. In your struggle to close yourself off you slip a memory to the front of your mind.

You're a child watching Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith for the first time. The yellow writing scrawls up the television. There it is the reason you had done it all. The Emperor saw Anakin kneeling to him.

"Ahh yes, so he was to be mine. Then I shall have him again." The words felt like ice though you.

A door opened where you couldn't see, Dooku waltzed in, smugness radiating off him.

"No, y/n." Anakin groans as he is shoved to the ground before the Emperor. Palpatine keeps you in the air.

"Lock them all away. It's time for a few games. We will draw the Jedi out and they will come to their deaths."

Part four

The next part will take me a little longer to get it. I hope you're enjoying the story so far. Let me know your thoughts.

#anakin pov #star wars anakin #anakin skywalker #anakin x reader #anakin fanfic #anakin and ahsoka #anakin and padme #obi wan x reader #obi wan kenobi #star wars

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character bashing in sw fics is so funny to me bc it's always like... "well my blorbo may have commited war crimes BUT AT LEAST HE WASN'T A BAD JEDI DAD" (i've been reading a lot of qui-gon stuff and it is rough out there... people always complain about qui-gon leaving obi-wan on a war-torn planet with child soldiers but they never ask themselves if obi-wan had bad vibes or was unpleasant to be around). u r literally writing about star wars characters. every one of them sucks. it's part of loving star wars is to accept all your favorite characters are horrible except maybe like... grogu. grow up.

Excuse you, Grogu ate that frog lady's eggs which is clearly worse than any warcrime.

No but seriously the shit Qui-Gon gets just perplexes me. There is so much good stuff to dig into with his character and instead people just skip right over that and go straight for the bashing. He can be such a compelling character!

Even just excluding the Jude Watson books and just going of canon, there's so much.

Like, just the implications of being trained by Dooku, the kind of childhood that would have been, and thinking about the reasons Dooku had for joining the Sith. That was his father figure, that was what he grew up in the shadow of! Makes me insane to think about the kind of person that would create!

Or the reverse, the kind of person Qui-Gon would have to be to shape the Obi-Wan we know.

Like, just the things you can fill in this character with from the negative space around him.

If you want to make Qui-Gon into a bad dude you're gonna have to try harder to sell me on it lmao.

Another character that gets bashed on so much is Mace Windu and like, I'm not going to touch on the racism present in that but like. He can be an antagonist in the narrative without being written as an outright dick, you know? His character works really well as a source of conflict in a story but you gotta put the work in to make it make sense for who he is and his motivations instead of just making him shitty for shitty sake. I hate how often fandom puts Mace in stuff and makes him 'guy who is a dick to Anakin for no reason' instead of making him a complex and compelling character with honestly pretty valid reasons for his tension with Anakin. (also i hc that just being around Anakin gives Mace shatter-point induced migraines so Mace can't help but be a little snappish anytime he's near Anakin for more than 2.5 seconds. But because Anakin's brain is a traumatized rat on a wheel spinning round and round in a self destructive spiral, he takes Mace bitching at him as a sign that Mace hates his very existence when really it's like Mace looks at Anakin adn thinks: that motherfucker (affectionate))

Sorry- my sleep meds are hitting hard so I am probably writing gibberish

#mmm the screen is starting to get blurry i should probably go to bed now #going to be real fun to see if any of this makes sense when i wake up tomorrow

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sarcasmismydefaultmode · 10 months

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A Star Wars What If...? ~Inquisitor Dedra Meero

@queeniewildrose, you asked for my headcanons for a Force Sensitive!Dedra, here they are:

(I’m turning this idea into a cosplay so this’ll actually help me remember my own headcanons for later...)

1. So taking Denise’s age as a guide, we know that Dedra might very well have lived through the Clone Wars. We can also surmise that she had a rough, deprived upbringing from comments made by both Tony and Denise in interviews. As a general headcanon for Dedra, I’m guessing it’s the equal and opposite of Syril’s, in that she was raised by an emotionally abusive, distant parent but it was her father, not her mother. In my headcanon, Dedra’s mother died when she was young and she was left to fend for herself by a domineering, cold father who blamed her for her mother’s death and planted the seed of her need for control and the desire to prove herself for whatever little crumb of approval she could get from her sole remaining parent.

2. Though born on a poor, Mid-Rim backwater planet of little consequence, Dedra is found by the Seekers of the Jedi Order, tested, and with her father’s permission, she is taken to Coruscant to be trained as an initiate.

3. As an initiate, Dedra excels in academics and Force abilities. Her lightsaber skills aren’t quite up to the same level but she’s so proficient with the Force, her teachers wonder if she’d even need bother with a lightsaber if she makes it to Knighthood.

4. However, there are reservations about her. Dedra is solitary and detached from her peers, preferring the quiet of the Archives to any games with her Clan members. Although detachment is taught by the Jedi, her teachers are a little disturbed when they realise just how detached Dedra is, how lacking in empathy or compassion. She suppresses her emotions rather than deals with them in a healthy manner, and deep, deep down, there’s a festering pool of fear, rage, and hate that she successfully keeps buried from everyone except perhaps Grandmaster Yoda or Mace Windu if they’d ever taken the time to look.

5. In the hope that a more personal approach might break through Dedra’s icy shell, she is taken as a Padawan. Perceptive in the Force, she senses her teachers’ disquiet and learns to mask her coldness and mimic just the right amount to get by. She learns to see empathy as a way to sense others’ emotions to her advantage without it affecting her judgement.

6. Despite some lingering misgivings, Dedra takes the Trials successfully and becomes a full-fledged Jedi Knight. Throughout her training, she showed an aptitude for seeing patterns in data and events that others missed, and a talent for perceiving the bigger picture even without the use of the Force. With that in mind, the Council assigns her to the equivalent of Republic Intelligence, whatever passes for it before the advent of the Clone Wars, working with civil and local police and intelligence agencies across the Galaxy.

7. Doubts still linger about Dedra, despite her never putting a foot wrong. She’s just a tad too efficient, too good at her job, too good at getting the information she needs within the limits of her role and training. The decision is made to assign her a Padawan in the hopes that becoming a teacher herself might succeed where her Master failed.

8. Years later, after the Great Jedi Purge and Order 66, Dedra could only bring herself to recall them as ‘the Padawan’. Just like she could never bring herself to remember her mother’s name. Names bring pain.

9. For, you see, the Padawan succeeded. At first, irritated and unimpressed, Dedra kept them at arms’ length but slowly, over the years they spent together, fighting and working side-by-side, begrudgingly she found herself growing...attached. She cared.

10. And then the Clone Wars began.

11. Skilled as she is with the arts of investigation and perception through the Force, Dedra and her Padawan are assigned to Intelligence. Though nominally given the ranks of General and Commander respectively, Dedra and the Padawan work often undercover which gives them some breathing room when Order 66 is triggered.

12. Called to report in, Dedra and the Padawan are ambushed and the Padawan gives their life to save Dedra’s. And Dedra’s heart shatters as it had done once before. And the Dark eagerly reaches out to quell the pain and rage.

13. Once the Clone troopers are dead and Dedra has escaped, she begins the onerous task of rebuilding herself after the loss of her Padawan and the only life she’d ever known. The claws of the Dark Side have sunk in deep by this point...

14. The war has done its work in making Dedra question everything she had once accepted as right. Corrupted by endless conflict and slaughter, and her own unaddressed, festering darkness, Dedra has already begun to see the Republic as doomed, its death a necessary one after its failure to bring peace to the galaxy, peace that Dedra starts to distort into order, frustrated and hemmed in by the rules of the Jedi, the limits to her powers, the actions she can take when interrogating persons of interest. Unlike the Council, Dedra found herself agreeing more and more with the transfer of powers from the Senate to the Chancellor, coming to see the former as a weak, dissolute, self-absorbed body of useless politicians.

15. The Jedi are not spared Dedra’s growing contempt. She comes to see their restraint, their detachment, as weakness and cowardice. They have the power to do so much more than they allow themselves, they could enforce order peace but they refuse, clinging to the dusty, failed strictures of democracy. But she says nothing, keeping her doubts and growing contempt within, because her Padawan would be so disappointed if she knew the depths of Dedra’s disillusionment...

16. Until it doesn’t matter anymore. And all that is left is the anger and the pain, burning away the crumbling foundations of Dedra’s atrophied heart until there’s nothing left but the contempt. For the Republic, for the Senate, and for the Jedi that let their people be slaughtered, that were too weak to prevent it.

17. When the Inquisitorius catches up with her, the Grand Inquisitor immediately senses Dedra’s disillusion and her teetering on the precipice of the Dark Side. It doesn’t take much to make her fall, though she spends plenty of hours in a torture chair. (It’s practically a rite of passage for the Inquisitorious after all...)

18. Dedra falls to the Dark Side and becomes the Tenth Sister. Just as she burned her Padawan’s body, she burns the memory of the Padawan’s name from her memory, locking it away with a cold, dark corner of her memory where her mother’s ghost dwells, and lets the festering pool of rage and fear that had lingered inside her since childhood consume her.

19. Just as she did as a Jedi Knight, Dedra turns her hand to intelligence gathering and investigation. She is mercilessly trained to a higher standard of lightsaber combat as all Inquisitors are, but she still prefers to rely on her Force abilities. They become ever more potent under the shadow of the Dark Side. Soon, she becomes the Inquisitorius’s go-to for interrogation, capable of extracting any information she seeks within minutes. Sometimes, she doesn’t even bother using the Force to break her captives’ minds to her will, her mere presence is dark enough to push even the most resolute prisoners to madness and terror.

20. Dedra was always ambitious and that hasn’t changed. All Inquisitors jockey for favour but Dedra does more than jockey. She listens and watches and learns, becoming the unofficial spymaster of the Inquisitorius. The other Inquisitors loathe and despise her but they dare not move against her, not yet. Because Dedra is ten steps ahead of all of them, second only to the Grand Inquisitor before his death, and Lord Vader himself.

21. And this is where the events of Andor come in. They still transpire as they do within the first 4 episodes, but rather than Dedra sounding the alarm, someone else does. Perhaps Heert, perhaps Partagaz himself, regardless, the latter turns to Colonel Yularen who, in turn, consults the Emperor. The Inquisitorius is winding down by now, there aren’t many surviving Inquisitors left and with the slow extinction of the Jedi nearly complete, the Emperor has little use for them. Except Dedra’s penchant for seeing patterns and the bigger picture has brought her some acclaim, along with her skill as an interrogator and investigator.

22. She is loaned to the ISB for the investigation. The ISB supervisors all react the same, with shock and derision, but they don’t dare be anything but subtle about it when the object of their disdain is capable of snapping their necks with a twist of her fingers or strangling them to death without so much as a touch. They pretend indifference but everyone, even the likes of Blevin, struggles to suppress a shudder every time the black-cloaked shadow that haunts the ISB walks past them with cold indifference. Complaints to Partagaz and Yularen fall on deaf ears as the Tenth Sister takes charge of the investigation, discovers the link in the wake of Aldhani, and puts Blevin in his final place when she chokes him to death before the entire assembled ISB Board for incompetence.

23. Dedra has the might of the Emperor behind her but she knows she too will face the same fate as Blevin if she fails. Beneath her cold exterior, the fear and the hate bubble away, always close to the surface but never breaking it. The ghosts of her mother and the Padawan rattle the bars of their drowned cell in the depths of Dedra’s memory but she is too blinded and deafened by the Dark now to see or hear them.

23. The events of Andor continue, but with Dedra conducting Bix’s interrogation without Dr. Gorst’s assistance. She interrogates Maarva and inadvertently causes her death when Maarva successfully goads her, but uses it as a lure to trap Cassian.

24. Dedra still makes the same mistake as before (though, I have to say, this felt like an uncharacteristic mistake for Dedra, not to check all possible routes of infil and exfil for Cassian into the town...but I’m guessing it was a story choice more then anything), and Cassian rescues Bix. However, Dedra pursues them to the shipyard and she and Cassian play a game of cat and mouse among the junked ships while he covers his friends’ escape. Dedra goads Cassian into revealing himself by telling him the truth of Maarva’s death, or at least an edited version, but she underestimates him and he draws her into a trap that nearly kills her and allows him to escape.

25. Syril saves her life, gets her back to the Imperials, with Dedra now facing the wrath of her masters and a burning hatred, hatred for Cassian Andor, adding to the terror and rage inside of her. Resolved to hunt him down, she finds an uneasy, intense ally in Syril Karn for the hunt to come...

26. And as for Syril? He still approaches her, fixates on her, is mesmerised even more by the power she holds. She almost makes a public example of him when he accosts her outside the ISB but instead choose to let him escape with his life, if not his dignity, intact after Force-choking him for a few seconds. She refuses to acknowledge the strange, unwelcome, foreign feelings the incident invokes in her. It’s the most she’s felt since...since the Purge. Since the Padawan. And she absolutely does not like it...

#Lieutenant Dedra Meero #Dedra Meero #headcanon #fanfiction #SW: Andor #Andor 2022 #Star Wars #SW #Star Wars: What If...?#Inquisitor!Dedra Meero #Force Sensitive!Dedra Meero #writing

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The violence ask game:

1 (besides characters named Scott)

1. the character everyone gets wrong

Cruel Caveat: besides characters named Scott

I just want to point out how mean that stipulation was before I begin, but in the same breath, it does challenge me because my Scotts (McCall & Summers) are such tempting, low-hanging fruit.

I've been on a Star Wars kick lately, and so I'm going to talk about Mace Windu.

Everyone (general) points to Mace and gets upset with him because he didn't grant Anakin the rank of Jedi Master or because in the final episodes of The Clone Wars, he dismissed Ahsoka by calling her "citizen".

Mace Windu was not an unfeeling robot. He was a human being who felt love and anger and fear, just like any other sentient being. But, as a Jedi Master, he learned not to be ruled by said emotions. It's especially frustrating because if these people would actually watch the movies or the show, or read the comics, or generally just engage with the media they're complaining about, it does disprove the notion that Mace was a stone-hearted ass. In fact, it was Mace who, along with the rest of the council, agreed to train Anakin, with Yoda being the lone holdout in the end. It was Mace who encouraged Obi-Wan to have faith in his padawan in AotC. It was Mace who told Anakin to sit the fight with Palpatine out because he recognized how emotionally conflicted Skywalker was about potentially fighting a mentor-figure.

I'm actually rereading Shatterpoint, which is, in my opinion, one of the best Star Wars novels ever written. It's entirely focused on Mace Windu and his complicated relationship with the Dark Side and his love for his padawan, Depa Billaba. I'd highly recommend reading it.

Another thing about Mace that I delight in pointing out is that he was basically the head honcho for the Jedi Order. Everyone always points to Master Yoda because he was given the rank of Grandmaster, which is really just a title bequeathed to the "oldest and wisest" of the Jedi. The true authority of the Order was the High Council, which was led by the Master of the Order. That was Mace... until the Clone Wars broke out and he relinquished the title to Yoda. But until then, he was the guy in charge, and I love that for him.

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

Let's keep on the Star Wars topic today.

The Jedi did not kidnap babies! They are not emotionless droids. They were not hypocrites for joining in the Clone Wars. And they did not enslave the Clones.

I could go on and on here, but I shouldn't need to.

24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

Racism.

I was going to put down a specific ship that always seems to draw in people whenever you criticize it. Or even just me posting about how I like a certain character attracts said character's most ardent haters who then proceed to try and shout you down. But at the end of the day, the racism within fandom is always its biggest problem (followed closely by its misogyny and homo/transphobia), and any time anyone attempts to tackle the subject, it just makes the most for the most vile discourse.

Because people will go out of their way to tell you how they're not racist, they just only seem to hate the black and brown characters because "they're not that interesting" or "they're badly written". And that second one never seems to be a problem for them, because they can take the most boring white character ever and make a biblical epic to flesh them out, but the same is never even attempted for characters of color. Instead, they rely on racist stereotypes and tropes.

I remember back in 2020, when I received an ask about John Boyega's comments about how his character (Finn) was treated in the Star Wars sequels. I pointed out the similarities between how he was treated by the Reylo-shippers and how Tyler Posey was treated by the Sterek-shippers, and even though I tagged it correctly, people lost their freaking minds. How dare I call either ship racist, even though both ships were rooted in racism and violence.

Especially on here, where anonymity still reigns, and everyone talks about how liberal and progressive the people on here are, people were very upset that I would point that out. People did not like that, even though I didn't tag anyone or mention anyone specific.

#ask game #i choose violence #mace windu #mace windu defense squad #(not that he needs one)#in defense of the jedi #fandom racism

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herehaveafandom · 10 months

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For the choosing violence ask game, literally as many as you can for Star Wars

oh jesus ok

I've seen people talk about Satine who believe she was weak, that she betrayed what it means to be a Mandalorian, that she didn't deserve Obi-Wan, etc. While I don't idealistically with her views entirely, I sympathize with her point of view and I don't think she was at all weak. She was trying to do what she felt was best for her people based on her knowledge of history and the current political climate. Do what you have to, queen. Also, MACE WINDU. I'm sorry that the (stressed out, under immense pressure) leader of a massive order wasn't sweet as sunshine to the rule breaking Jedi master about the rule breaking kid he picked up who will grow up to be one of the world's most prolific war criminals and murders. I admit that I think the Jedi order had its faults but I am a Mace Windu stan 4ever

hey. hey. Look me in the eyes and tell me you think Rex bottoms. That man is a fucking Dom top who gets shit DONE. He has half of Torrent on their knees for him. The way he put his hand on Echo's chest? Shoots an eel in the eye and goes fucking "Call me sir?" He had them swooning I know it. His dick game is pristine. Side note but I feel like Bail Organa gets pegged on occasion (lovingly of course he and Breha are couple goals.

Uhhh. Hm. People who are generally mad abt Mando giving up the darksaber- I completely agree that it was right choice. For two seasons we all went "lol it's so funny how mando hates being the main character! He just wants to do side quests and raise his kid! Lol it's funny how he keeps being the most important person he hates it!" and then when Mando followed through on that character by giving up the darksaber people who got pissed "BUT HES THE MAIN CHARACTER". like tell me you don't understand the character without telling me that. Also people who Hate star wars but Keep Watching It and then come onto fandom side and insult it in every way - there's a difference between being critical of a thing (I am!) and just bringing the vibe down for everyone. Yes star wars and the fandom by extension have a lot of issues. Id also have to say the racist/homophobic/generally hateful takes. Also Reylos.

I've never actually blocked anyone!

I'm not on discord server lol

YOU KNOW. Like ok if you want to ship reylo FINE but don't come to me talking about how I'm misogynistic for not shipping it. I actually have taste thanks. I'm not the world's biggest fan of master/padawan ships - qui/obi or obikin - but at least those people are generally polite and I can just scroll past if I chose.

I don't know that this has happened? If anything hate for a character makes me more inclined to like them.

Gooooood where to begin. I am the only person who knows Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker. When people reduce Luke down to "dumb, naive, sunshine boy" it makes me mad. Yes, that is a big part of his character, and may even be most of his character in ANH, but you don't get Luke unless you understand his more mature and dangerous side. Yes, Luke is generally the optimist to Leia's realism, but I believe that is a choice Luke makes. Remember, Luke grew up on Tatooine, so he can't be entirely innocent. Luke knew how to take care of business with Jabba. If you reduce him down to dumb sunshine I feel you take away from the character.

The sequels. The sequels. The sequels. They massacred and disrespected so many characters. God. They were so wrong. Beyond that, the split canon of Legends vs Disney. I actually really like so much of the old Legends canon I'm mad it's not real anymore.

The infighting, and as said above, people who just seem to hate Star Wars harshing the vibes for the rest of us. I'm not talking about things like acknowledging the bias and bigotry in both canon and fandom, because that's important, but people who just seem to hate every piece of media put out regardless of content. why are you here. In actual fanon proper, I'm going to be honest, mischaracterization. I understand everyone interprets things differently but sometimes I'm like. Did we watch the same thing here bestie bc he would not fucking say that.

fun fact the only thing i have filtered on tumblr is overwatch. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT I DON'T CARE

Oh easy Saw Gerrera. I understand why people don't like him - he's hard to watch - but I think he's an amazing example of the kind of leftist infighting we see in our politicial climate today. He's not my favorite character or anything, but I do look forward to it when he's on my screen.

Kylie Ron. Enough said.

Ok this is a weird one but in all the prequel/clone wars fics I read, why does everyone assume Jedi, especially Obi-Wan, have an aversion to seeing a medic?? Did I miss something? Like if it was established in canon at some point let me know bc why?? The medics are always chasing down the Jedi and threatening them until they come in to get healed...like why wouldn't they go anyway? What's up man?

well fanart is varied. I guess a lot of characters overshadowing one another.

I mean this in the nicest way possible: I don't really understand why people like Obikin. I completely agree that these men are Not Normal about each other, and they have a New Type of Relationship but...Obi-Wan has been raising Anakin since he was nine. It's not even the age gap, just...I don't get it. No shade or shame but like. Not for me. They can be strange about each other in a different way for me.

FUCK ME I LOVE A FIXIT. LOVE A TIME TRAVEL BETWEEN OT AND PT. LETS THROW CHARACTERS INTO SITUATIONS I LOVE IT. I've particularly been thinking abt Darth Vader interacting with Dooku. Idk but I think it'd be fun. ALSO I LOVE FICS EXPLORING THE VARIOUS CULTURES OF STAR WARS. Star Wars has million worlds for you to make up shit about and I love them all. YES TELL ME ABOUT JEDI HOLIDAYS OR TWI'LEK RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. Shoutout to @fialleril and their amazing series abt Darth Vader being a double agent, which really set the standard and created content that people still use today about Tatooinian Slave Culture.

CAN WE HEAR A LITTLE COMMOTION FOR REVA SEVANDER? ok so we didn't really SLEEP on her but now that Kenobi is over I dont see much stuff about her :( I love her she was amazing. Also let me shout out some favorite fics real quick - the above mentioned "Double Agent Vader", "Cosmic Oddities", a Mando/The Last of Us crossover, all of Blue_Sunshine's work but especially their series "The Desert Storm" and the follow up "Rise and Fall" about a time traveling Ben Kenobi, Deniigiq's series "center stage", Killbothtwins' series "the massive machinery of hope" (more time traveling with one of my favorite characterizations of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon). For the adults looking for something spicy (and by spicy I mean downright smut), Iridan's work "a simple thing" has not only set the standard for Bobadin works, but is one of the best fics I've read PERIOD. Booktok authors WISH they had this level of skill. It's amazing and should be turned into a novel. All of the above fics are on AO3, go check them out and show them some love!

Padme/Anakin. It is heterosexual nonsense and I love it.

Some sections of TCW. I'm not generally a military/war movie person in general, so those sections focusing on that can feel a little long to me. Generally star wars doesn't bore me though!

I'm going to be killed for this, but...Andor. I LIKED IT I DID I JUST. DIDNT LIKE IT AS MUCH AS KENOBI. Yes it was important and relevant and YES it was great. I just think maybe the tiniest bit overhyped. I STILL REALLY LIKE IT THO DONT KILL ME.

Now lets talk abtJaster Mereel can we talk abt jaster mereel ive been dying to talk abt Jaster Mereel

Din/Bo Katan. Before season 3 I would have said no but season 3 got me bitch I can't lie. It's about the fealty.

Star war's flaws. the racism and homophobia and misogyny. yikes!

I DONT CARE IF YOU HATE THE PREQUELS SHUT UP ABOUT IT

#anyway.#star wars

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Thank you!

And yesss i love the idea of a jedi trained under THE Mace Windu yet they cant be taken seriously due to how inexperience they are on the bettle field

Like maybe dispite them being inexperience the clones love them because they truly care for the clones and are very loyal to them they have a heart of a jedi but not that of a general maybe this Jedi knows something isn't right about this war and always gets this sick feeling in their stomach when they are around Anakin but they can't figure out why maybe they try to go for a diplomatic route in most situations but that backfires

I just love the idea of this Jedi just not beinh cutout for war that is not what they signed up for

I want to know about the medic Clone! Pleas tell me more

And yes! That's where my other OC comes in clone CT-9420 otherwise known as Bull lead commander and right hand of Broco of unit 604 Bull is a hardass and takes no bullcrap hence the name he believes there shouldn't be no short cuts to doing things the mission must always be accomplished his color is dark pink along with his unit I like to imagine him and Cody get along great and are actually quite close he cares for Rex but they do bicker about how to run their squad Bull just thinks the 501s need more discipline. So they won't act on impulse and so they won't die that is always Bull's main goal none of his brothers dying Bull is also close with the wolfpack and Fox although he worrys for Fox sanity

Yes Broco survives Order 66 Anakin may have turned to the dark side because of Broco I imagine Padme does call quits with Anakin and confesses to Broco her feelings and Broco for the first time in his life acts impulsively and accepts to being with her during that time Broco trys to tell Anakin but he is to angry and hurt about Padme it isn't until ROTS when picking a new Jedi master they call both Anakin and Broco they of course pick Broco but he declines the offer making everyone shocked Broco reveals he broke the jedi code and fell in love and has been in a relationship with Padme (cue Obi-wan shocked AF face) and that he resigned from being a Jedi he then leaves not unil being confronted by Anakin who is hurt and Pissed Broco tells Anakin that him and Padme never did anything while she was with him it was only until she broke up with Anakin then they started there Relatonship and that he has been trying to tell Anakin for a while Broco soon also reveals that Padme is pregnant with Anakin's kids and that they don't have to hate each other they could work things out to come with him and Padme they could all three talk that there is a solution of course Anakin doesn't listen he is too angry to hurt too heartbroken this is the moment he snaps

In my version Padme stays alive along with Broco and they escape with Obi-wan Broco trys to take Bull with him but Bull is too far gone so him and Padme change their names and raise Luke and Leia in secret afraid Anakin will find them

Well I’m sold! I like this new Jedi you’re helping me create lol. So he trained under Windu, everyone had high expectations for him but because he’s not cut out for war, he feels like he’s failing them. His clones love him, but he can’t quite connect with his fellow Jedi generals, let alone the Senate and any other leaders. He struggles with acid reflux because of his anxiety, which only grows the longer the war goes on…. I’ll just need to think of a good name for him now 🥰

I’ll put the rest under the cut since this post ended up rather long lol.

And then my clone battalion (that this Jedi will lead) is the 116th, with Commander Crowe. He’s the clone in my profile pic lol. He’s a pretty chill guy, lets the squad do whatever they’d like, enjoys kicking his feet up with a beer and some cards, etc. But on the battlefield, he’s hardcore. Best on the defense, can hold the line like nobody’s business, never lets a droid get through. Also competitive and keeps a kill count, which he’s scolded for by other units but doesn’t care.

They picked up a civilian at one point, Dr Joan Vo. Crowe took her under his wing (pun intended) and taught her a lot, and in return she took care of all their medical needs. She became a sister to them.

Sadly… the battalion’s ship does blow up during the height of the war, killing everyone except Joan, who was away at the time. I wrote a little about that part of their story in this chapter of The Sniper and the Medic. I think my new Jedi would have to be on the ship too, unless I want him to somehow survive and maybe find Joan and help her through her survivor’s guilt? I’m not too sure.

Sorry that was a lot to dump! Lol. There’s just a lot to say about these characters 😁

Bull sounds awesome, I love him already. I can totally see him butting heads with a lot of the other clones who aren’t as rigid/strict as him, even my clone Crowe. But perhaps there’s still room for friendships in there, especially if Bull’s main motivation is for all his brothers to live, I don’t think even a reckless clone could argue with that. It’s sad that he ends up swept into carrying out Order 66. Any hope he could snap out of it and leave the Empire, like Cody? Lol

Ahh okay interesting, Broco chooses Padme. What do Luke and Leia think of him? Do they know he’s not really their dad? Does he and Padme end up with any kids of their own?

Also random question, what color’s his lightsaber? I’ll have to think about mine as well hehe

#star wars #not the same anon 💚#the clone wars #OCs #others ocs #Jedi #clones #Commander Crowe #oc joan vo

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inklore · 8 months

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What are your favorite things about each adam driver character?

oh jeez ok buckle up for the several long paragraphs i am about to write that no one's going to care about it because it's going to be feral nonsense ok <3 i'm just going to talk about my top favs since there's so many adc's and we'd be here all day.

— KYLO REN/BEN SOLO: putting our emo boy first because he's the first one i fell for (insane cause i went into the films ready to hate him because he killed off a fav of mine but then he took off his mask and i was like ....ima hear him out). as someone with both mommy and daddy issues it's no surprise i gravitated towards him and actually loved the dynamic he had with his parents because it's completely up to interoperation (i have read no sw books so exclude them), but han and leia both hint to them being not great parents. so thinking about the internal struggles that ben probably went through to become kylo and how easy it probably was to taint his mind because of absent parents or parents who didn't really know how to be their best for him literally sends me spiraling. not to mention this lil fucker is resilient as hell and he literally is just a ball of feelings and rage and doesn't know how to handle them because he was never taught how to and hellooo the call is coming from inside the house. his lightsaber is also superior (besides mace windu's). i will forever be bitter they focused hella on his relationship with rey than anything else (also this is no hate because i love rey ok). like i get it but also adam had the range to play as ben, to be something other than driven by trying to convince some girl to be on the dark side and take her down. like no hate but my boy deserved a bit better writing.

— ADAM SACKLER: i only watched girls for him and then i ended up really enjoying the show which was huge surprise but it just makes the rewatches that more special. but this little perverted freak is just so chaotic and toxic in his own way and it just makes me go dumb. because he's the little weirdo your girl friends will be like yeah stay away from him but he's the one who will love you so deeply to the point where it's a little scary and chaotic and toxic and dependent but he will also lift you up and do what he can for you and he's big as fuck and can carry you around everywhere, build you things, make you things, plus watching him in plays and little movies and shows ughhh. he's chaotic boyfriend material. a chaotic messy himbo if you will. he's just so unapologetically himself and has a lot more depth than one would think from first glance or the first two seasons of the show. and he's incredibly sensitive!! ok i'll shut up (but if we focusing on thirst um...the dirty talk?? yeah).

— PHILLIP ALTMAN: aka adam sackler's less-chaotic but a bit more toxic due to mommy issues counterpart (if we're being honest), i really have no real ground breaking explanation as to why i have intense feelings towards this man. it could be because the movie i really love the movie he's from?? like i don't know but when i think of him i just want to lay down and listen to lana and really think about how i could fix him by making him worse. i also think this character has hidden depth we didn't get to see and there's a lot of unspoken familial issues going on there and like he's a little lost (relatable). plus he's silly and his little dance hip thrust could convince me to forgive him of everything. plus the line "the stuff that's going on in fossil fuels is just really sexy" kills me each time.

— JUDE: i honestly think this character is insane. like he has a darkness to him that people either don't mention or just overlook because there's a kid involved. but even before said kid was involved he was...something else. like he's the worst baby daddy but also the best but also you get it but also you're like...do i get it because there's something off here?? like it's just one of those characters you're like do i like him? do i want him? is he okay? am i okay? what's even really going on with him? i just love it lmao.

— PATERSON: husband. boyfriend. material. that is all. you know the quiet soft boys that just make you want to scream into a pillow and be like 'when will it be my turn?' yeah, that's this man. he's everything!

#honorable mentions clyde and charlie <3 #theres so much more but at this point ima just be saying because i wanna fuck them lmadkdj #also please discuss with me about any and all adc's i want your opinions #i'm also too lazy to read this back so enjoy the spelling mistakes #▸ laur answers

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blarfkey · 2 years

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For the Blorbo etc fandom questions, do Star Wars?

Ok so I meant to do this a long time ago and couldn't find the post with all the questions on it and it showed back up on my dash (lol, dash) so lets do this!

blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most): PADME AMIDALA. I saw her at nine in TPM and lost my shit and have never been the same. I love everything about her, even though they basically character assassinated her in the last movie. I am very picky about how she is done, though, because I don't think she's this perfect angelic kind soul, I think she more do no harm but take no shit and she's incredibly intelligent and the original idea they kicked around for ROTS where she lured Anakin to Mustafar to kill him bc it needed to be done is more true to her character than what did happen.

scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped): Does the Tooka/Loth cat count? bc I have an obsession. If not, currently its Baby Leia in the Obi Wan show bc dear god they did her perfectly. And also grogu but I think grogu is everyone's scrunkly

scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave): So many! First off, Rose got such a shit end of the stick. I adored her character so much and she would have been so great with Rey if they had been able to share any screen time. I also really love Ahsoka even though a lot of the fandom kind of shit on her, I never felt like she ways a mary sue or boring, she was a greatly developed character and she fit right in with Anakin and Obi-Wan.

I also kind of fell in love with Chirrut in Rogue One and I wish I saw more of him once the hype for that movie died down.

Lastly, Cid from the Bad Batch Show. She's a grumpy, crotchety old lady alien who saves their ass and makes them pay for it and we never see those types in Star Wars. I even based an OC on her as a background character in one of my DA fics.

glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week): Riyo Chuchi! She was such a kick ass character in TCW and we barely got to see her. Also love all the handmaidens for Padme, but especially Sabe. I love Captain Tarpals from the Gungans. And weirdly enough I really like Max Rebo and the two headed announcer from the pod race.

poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave): I am an unapologetic villain lover so obviously Kylo Ren/Ben Solo. I think his character is really tragic and the fandom at large either completely demonizes him or they completely woobiefy him and I like it in the middle. He did some really really shitty things that he shouldn't be off the hook for, but neither do I think the fact that Snoke manipulated him since basically birth and he's never been alone with his own thoughts and his own influence in his entire life until TLJ should be swept under the rug.

I really loved Hux in TFA and the vibe of like stepbrothers who hate each other and compete for Dad's approval with Kylo Ren over Snoke was hilarious. He seemed ruthless and cold and calculating and all of that is very sexy and then . . .they ruined it lol. I have my own version of him in my head that I keep and coo over.

DJ from TLJ is also that perfect mix of kind and self serving and chaotic and I desperately need more of him in any capacity, also Benecio Del Toro is unbelievely attractive.

And you know what, I'm gonna say it: I like Jar Jar Binks. I thought he was funny as a kid, I loved him in TCW especially those episodes with him and Mace Windu and I don't think he deserved quite the level of vitriol he got, he was clearly a fun character for children and the adults can fuck off. Also I quote him all the time

horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason): Probably Hux. I think it's fun to see him lose his cool, like he did with Poe in TLJ. And I am enjoying seeing Obi-Wan a bit of a wreck in his show.

eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell): When I was a kid it was Qui Gon Jinn, haha. If you read the Obi-Wan apprentice books he was such a dickhead, and even in TPM the moment he met Anakin, he just tossed Obi-Wan aside, even his last words were about Anakin, and you could tell it hurt Obi-Wan even though he was supportive of it.

Now it's Bastila Shan from KOTOR, I think she is an incredibly arrogant bitch and I definitely enjoyed turning her to the dark side and then killing her.

#asks #star wars #omg this was so much fun #thank you dash

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pat-the-togorian · 1 year

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Pat's Angstpril Day 17: Running Away

I marched to the Council Chambers with a spring in my step, ears happily pitched forward. I’d been doing well to improve in my studies as compared to my overwhelming entrance to Jedi training so late in my childhood.

And then, the meeting started.

I’d never felt so laid bare.

The Datapad that held all my best work, report cards on my improvement with my lightsaber, and notes of praise from Aheka and Sinvulkt sat forgotten on Obi-Wan’s armrest, amidst the scowling faces of the rest of the Council. They didn’t want to know about my progress. They wanted information. I’d been grimly proven right about the suspicions I’d raised to Aheka. The Council hated me.

Obi-Wan looked at me with sadness and suspicion. “Pat, you are indeed a prodigy as a Seer, and in Force Seek and deciphering Force signatures, but you must be aware of the pitfalls of your fears,” he advised. I knew it hadn’t been an easy time for his own Padawan, but it felt like he saw right through me, and worse, saw too much of Skywalker in me.

“That’s putting it lightly,” Mace Windu grumbled. “Your fears and attachments have already disrupted the important assignments of others… your very own Master included.” He was clearly upset that Sinvulkt’s Shadow mission had been interrupted by our Battalion. “I have half a mind to ask you, right now, to defend your actions.”

“A disciplinary hearing, this is not,” Yoda’s voice burst in. “But your fears, you must rectify. A gift your Sight is, but the future, in motion, always is.”

I nodded silently, afraid that my voice would break if I tried to speak. But I felt them so strongly… how could I promise to lose my fear overnight?

“On your current path, we cannot endorse your Knighthood,” Windu warned again. It was clearly a loaded statement, implying that far worse would befall me than being held back a year from my Trial.

I nodded, trying not to look too sullen, or too heartbroken. I felt like any single thing I did would only make them view me as so much lesser.

I trudged back to my quarters, shoulders hunched and tail dragging. This wasn’t how it was supposed to end up! My friends, my Master, my Grandmaster… the Council saw me as a discredit to all of them. And that would never do.

The Jedi Order had never been so big on possessions, so I hardly had to prepare at all. I left my lightsaber, belt, and my dressier robes neatly on the bed, wearing only my simple tunic. I cradled the leather Padawan braid that usually hung from my right ear, with the bead made from the first shiny stone Sinvulkt had gifted me. A couple of fat teardrops fell onto it. I left the room, feeling a foot shorter than when I’d left it this morning. The weight of the Padawan braid felt so heavy, I dropped it on the floor as I slunk away. I’m sorry, Master… for everything.

It went against everything I wanted, but I still headed for the door.

For a few hours, I sat in the late-afternoon rain on the Temple’s front steps. I shivered, shaking drops loose from my fur. Get used to this, I berated myself. I forced my mind to come up with a plan. It wasn’t likely the Order would ship me somewhere else, aside from potentially my home planet, or the Agri Corps… but that was what they’d want for me, wasn’t it? Resisting living as their little worker bee was the last kind of pride I had left.

Suddenly, I heard a ruffle of feathers, and the rain drumming numbingly on my skull dissipated. The water beaded and ran off of Sinvulkt’s feathers as she raised a wing to cover my hunched form.

“I-it didn’t go well,” I shakily told her. “Th-they… want this for me…”

“You don’t have to,” she whispered. “You can stay.”

“But… who would want me to stay?” I whispered.

Sinvulkt hissed sharply. “What we don’t want is for you to be out here alone with your doubts. What we want is for you to get back in there and fight for yourself. You aren’t being kicked out of the Order, right?” Her eyes flashed with some distant memory.

“No… I’m not,” I gulped and replied with a bit more effort.

“It’s your choice, Padawan,” she finished. “Far be it from me to stop you from running. But you can also come back and give yourself a chance.”

I nodded slowly and drew myself back up. Sinvulkt folded her wing back from its use as a makeshift umbrella and reached out her hand. In it lay my Padawan braid.

“Th-thanks,” I murmured, looping it back over my right ear. “Really. For…for everything.”

She gave a slight smile. “The reason you belong here is inside you, Pat.”

@formeralleycat

#angstpril2023 #starwars #fanfiction #day17 #taaoej #the amazing adventures of excentrics jedi #angst #whump

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finsterhund · 1 year

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I feel bad about this but despite getting to see characters I like in live-action for the first time the Ashoka series trailer really didn't do anything for me. Like yeah Thrawn and "heir to the empire" They said the thing!!! But ehhh. Don't know if it's burn out or what.

Star Wars, largely regardless of quality, being my comfort food when I'm doomer suicidal as all hell suddenly not working might be evidence of me slipping into a danger zone so that's very much 🙃

Hoping it's temporary and this weekend I'm planning to lock Scott outside of my bedroom with a big beef bone and finally read the Thrawn Trilogy after putting it off for six thousand years (sorry Fishy but holy shit does Scott hate when I try to do literally anything that he's not able to participate in.)

Was much more hyped by how this week's episode of Mando was droid centric and having reprogrammed B1s. 🥺

I love them so much aaaaaaaaa

There's one specific scene where a B1 goes back to old programming but like, they do so in the funniest way. They're like tugging handfuls of clothes out of a box and throwing them around all over the place and it's so fucking funny to me because everyone's like "battle droids are fucking everything up" and it shows this little guy in peak "I fucking hate boxes" energy just doing inconsequential naughty cat behavior.

The old dude kissing Dooku's ass I found pretty funny tbh djfjfjfjtjdjdhfjsbfjsjfjdh ok grandpa separatist warcrimes.

Also I don't fucking trust those mandalorian mercenaries (lead by the one dude) Bo Katan has history with. They're sus and racist. "Ohh Din is adopted so he's not a real mando" for fucks sake do y'all "true mandalorians" even have a viable breeding population at this point? The found family aspect of you guys was literally present in the old EU/Legends for fucks sake. Apparently according to one comic the shape of your fucking helmets was based on the skull shape of the now extinct race that were the "first Mandalorians" like some thousand fuck years ago???? So yeah he's suspicious.

People probably complained about the actor cameos(?) but I felt their characters were fine honestly. They're random extras on some random planet that's flashy and weird. Maybe retreading old ground a bit too much with another entry in "Princess Weird Hair" territory but at least it's consistent so if people were complaining about her for reasons other than Star Wars not trying something new and having another Weird Hair Princess I don't particularly see why. Only one who looked like they were "guest starring themselves" was Jack Black and he was random ex imperial human dude and his acting was fine so I don't think that's really a problem. Got the vibe that the character was forced into military at a young age despite being a silly eccentric soul and after the fall of the empire finally gets to have an adulthood being himself and he's making up for lost time. Who fucking knows. Like I said he's just a random extra who I don't even think will appear again. Star Wars having prominent actors in supporting roles that you can really notice as being those actors has been a thing since the beginning really. I never really experienced that though because of my age. Especially in the original trilogy where I had no idea what some of these actors were known for before and they're literally just type cast as their character to me at that point. I feel Alec Guinness would not like that one bit but I literally cannot see him in any other character. And Prequel Trilogy was largely the same way to me. Like Samuel L Jackson is first and foremost Mace Windu in my brain. I watched the marvel movies and was like "Mace Windu eye patch!!!" Doesn't help that I'm "actor blind" and tend not to even recognize actors a lot of the time in the first place. I only recognized Jack Black in this episode.

Wanted to see more about the Mon calamari prince and his squidhead gf. Is he the same one from the one episode of clone wars? A sibling? Wasn't there a comic where he died? I don't remember and didn't read it. I know this is the Mando show but I do want the franchise to explore specific aliens and their individual worlds/struggles more often. This might be controversial of me to say but having a little standalone movie or short series or something about some jawas goin on a little adventure, something akin to that one ewok movie I think I'd like to see. Maybe go a bit artsy 80s dark fantasy vibes with it. God this is just because I keep thinking about Jim Henson creatures again isn't it? Jawas weren't even puppets for fucks sake Andy. Yeah.

"Visions" felt like more like cool art demos and creative experiments than stories but if there were canonical little miniseries that just went off on tangents like how each episode of Visions was standalone and untethered I feel that's something the franchise could benefit from.

I suppose I could just as easily say I want brand new little scifi fantasy practical-effects-centric alien universes if I'm being honest. But I feel at this point nobody wants to do that because time and money. I'm only really getting my fix from whatever Disney allows Star Wars to do at this point. Where's the Star Wars knockoff equivalent of Kyle Edward Ball? Who's going to make the grimy 80s puppet and model starship skinamarink? Doesn't even have to be good I'll still at least try to eat that shit up lmfaooo

I do think the perpetual 7 year old in me might finally be experiencing Star Wars burnout though. Which scares me because as I said a while back, my inner child is the only part of me that has a will to live.

I've lost motivation for pretty much everything please let me still stay excited and feel creative through Star Wars aaaaaaaa 😭

Continuing to put off the season finale of Bad Batch because I have reason to believe it's sad and I don't want to be sad skdfsdlfjsd I am baby coward.

#text post #spoilers #sw spoilers

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smhalltheurlsaretaken · 3 years

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You know what? I find it super interesting that the Order wasn’t too harsh on Anakin. In fact, you could even make the argument that they were too easy on him, if anything (which is an interesting parallel with Rael).

There are like a ton of instances of Anakin either not doing his job (and this isn’t me hating on him, I like Anakin, it’s an objective fact) or directly disobeying orders, and never facing any consequences for either. In fact, I don’t think we’ve ever seen Anakin actually be punished for anything (but if you can think of one time in the movies or TCW where he was not reprimanded or scolded, but actually punished for something - please tell me and I’ll amend this).

Consider:

Anakin loses R2 (after going against Obi-Wan’s advice to leave the system and staying to fight instead), R2 being full of like half of the army’s intel.

Consequences: Obi-Wan yells at Anakin for 30 secs and Anakin is sent to get R2, like he wanted to. (s1ep6)

One episode later (after disregarding Obi-Wan’s advice to wait for reinforcements):

Consequences:

A sigh and a glare, for putting multiple people at risk. That’s it. The transmission cuts off there, Ahsoka says Obi-Wan has a point, and nothing more comes out of it. (s1ep7)

Later (s1ep22):

Consequences for skipping out his meditative retreat (the time off he was given by the Order): none that we see or are told about. We don’t know if anyone was even aware that he didn’t go on his retreat. Also, see his argument when Padmé says she doesn’t have time to go on a romantic vacation:

Anakin, a very important General but still a very young man, was given two weeks of completely unsupervised time off in the middle of a full scale war.

And again (s2ep):

Consequences for keeping Mace, Obi-Wan and Yoda waiting for hours:

Nothing. Master Windu, the highly respected head of the Jedi Order, High General in the GAR, the boogeyman of the fandom, the ‘mean, horrible, awful Jedi Master who didn’t trust Anakin and didn’t like him and was always scolding him about all sorts of stuff and hated him and was mean’, didn’t have one word of reprimand for the 20 yo kid who kept him waiting all night and didn’t even give the barest of excuse or explanation for not answering his comm.

And this isn’t me setting out to bash Anakin or whatever! I’m not interpreting anything here, just showing examples of Anakin doing things that should earn him a very stern talking to, at the very least - considering his age, his status, and his rank in the army - but where we never see anything actually happen. That’s like the whole Prequels era, really. Anakin is never punished for his actions, until he is (see last gifs). I mean:

Consequences for flying into the command ship during TPM: none that we see or are told about.

Consequences for going to Tatooine in AotC, then going to Geonosis against direct orders, thus putting Senator Amidala in danger twice: none that we see or are told about. He is knighted a few months after and then given Ahsoka, and the Jedi all seem to think it’s a great idea, meaning people didn’t make any big deal out of his disregarding orders.

Consequences for flying to the Abregado system in s1ep2 to rescue Plo Koon, against the Council’s orders: Obi-Wan makes a snarky remark to Cody, Yoda makes a snarky remark to no one in particular, and Palpatine lies to Anakin about ‘the Council being furious’ when we just saw that they weren’t.

Consequences for disobeying Obi-Wan on Mortis in s3ep13: none.

Consequences for lying to Obi-Wan’s face about Rex’s helmet in s7ep2: Obi-Wan passive-aggressively asks him if he’s said hello to Padmé, nothing more comes out of it.

Consequences for almost botching the Rako Hardeen mission (and unwittingly trying to kill Obi-Wan): Yoda is the one who apologizes to him.

Consequences for being in a relationship (which isn’t technically forbidden, but it’s still far from ideal, especially considering Padmé is a Senator) and lying about it: the Council hints that they know about him and Padmé in the Clovis eps (s2ep4, s6ep6), Anakin always vehemently claims that they’re only friends. Nothing happens.

Consequences for being a known troublemaker: Yoda unironically praises him for it (+ the Council members love bantering with him + he gets to call them by their first names.)

Consequences for constantly disobeying Obi-Wan, the Council, Yularen, and basically everybody ever:

For all his troublemaking, Anakin never actually gets into trouble, and I just think it contrasts nicely with the rather predominant view that the Jedi were overly critical of him, unduly harsh, and constantly on his back.

#long post #meta #my meta #anakin skywalker #jedi order #padmé amidala #obi-wan kenobi #anidala #yoda #in defense of the jedi #intergalactic therapists #jedi positivity

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Mace canonically hated Anakin since TPM though? He's a good man and I will never argue with that, but it's disingenuous to pretend that he gave a damn about Anakin when he actively disliked him from their first meeting. Even Yoda didn't like him and I think it's sad cause he was only 9 at the time.

So, you do understand that a person in a leadership role being "stern" is different than them "hating" someone, right? It's important for me to know that you can see the difference.

I will never understand how people can watch that scene and think the Council (Mace in particular) is "mean to" or "hates" Anakin.

Argument: when they tested him, they mocked him for caring about his mother - he's only 9 years old!

Me: did they "mock" him though?? They pointed out that his thoughts dwelled on his mother after he tried to hide how he was feeling from them. And when they pointed out that he was afraid to lose her he immediately became defensive. Now, that's totally understandable, he's 9 and until a day ago he only ever had his mother. But the Council pointing out that they sense fear in him does not mean that they hated him, it was them acknowledging his (understandable) attachment to his mother and fear of losing her would make him more susceptible to the darkside (and guess what, they were right in the end).

Argument: Mace was so mean when he said "no".

Me: was he though? He was no nonsense and his tone left little room for argument (yet Qui-Gon still argued), but mean or hateful he was not. If you think that tone of voice was mean or hateful you either are projecting some subconscious racism because its hard for you to handle a black man in an authority position (which is a whole other issue and a big part of the Mace Windu hate), or you are one of those people who assume any type of disciplinary action = authority figure hates you, which good luck surviving adulthood if that's what you think.

If the Council was angry with anyone in this scene it was not the 9 year old, it was the Jedi Master who in his arrogance ignored all protocols and unilaterally decided not only to promise a child he'd be a Jedi (before being tested), but also risked his mission to do it. A Master who likely caused a PR nightmare for the Council because he basically won them a slave - can you imagine what that could've done with regards to the Jedi's reputation in the Republic?? No, of course you can't because why would anyone look at this scene from another perspective?

The Council is frustrated with Qui-Gon in this scene, not with Anakin. If anything they have the child's best interests in mind by denying his training, but Qui-Gon proceeds to Karen and bully them to try and get his way.

But there is nothing in that scene that depicts the Council or Mace Windu "hating" Anakin Skywalker. As someone who Manages a team of people, I can attest that you can be stern with someone without "hating" them.

And if you can't tell the difference then you're professional life is going to be miserable.

#star wars #mace windu appreciation #pro mace windu #jedi council appreciation #sw tpm #baby anakin #anakin skywalker #why does everyone misunderstand that scene #mace doesnt hate anakin

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mrfandomwars · 2 years

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In Defence Of Ki-Adi Mundi

Heyo! I'm here because I am Done™ with the general hate he gets.

So! Consider this post a defence against common misconceptions that there are on the fandom, I promise I will do my best to make this reasonable.

Warning: As some parts of the fandom hates Ki-Adi for things that are now Legends, I will do my best to include them as well.

More under the cut.

First things first:

Ki-Adi does not care about his men (Clone Troopers/The Vode):

I, personally, never saw anything that may indicate that, if anything I saw the opposite.

Proof A:

Episode 6 "Weapons factory" season 2

As you can see here, Ki-Adi clearly cares for his men in this scene, so saying that he doesn't care should already be disproven just from this scene, specially adding the fact he orders the wounded into the tanks in "Landing on point rain".

But let's continue, as I know some antis would turn around and say that he only did the later part so that they weren't slowing them down, even though he could have easily left them behind or go into the tank himself and left the vode to try and figure how to get the tanks around instead of, y'know, doing literally this while injured:

Proof B:

He leads the Marine's in front of the battle, something we have proof that people that did not care about the vode didn't do it.

The proof? Krell, a fallen Jedi.

Ki-Adi did not care about his (now legends) family

For this, I pull this:

-and this line from wookieepedia:

So, based of this two things alone, I wouldn't immediatly say he didn't care, maybe because of his duties as a Jedi he couldn't put their lives as his most important thing but I assume that his wives were given a choice on whether or not they could marry a Jedi.

"But MR!" you may cry, "what about how he didn't care that his family was dead!?" for that I say:

The panel most people use to reference that, Ki-Adi is literally trying to convince Anakin to not get stuck in the past by thinking that Obi-Wan might be alive because they couldn't find a body and he used his family as an example to the fact that not always it was possible to recover the bodies of dead loved ones, there's literally nothing wrong with that.

Don't believe me that it wasn't what he meant? Then read the comic page yourselves:

Also, he still dislikes Jabba the Hutt for capturing his daughter and almost killing her:

Ki-Adi went too far in suppressing his emotions

Two things:

1. I find that this misconception usually comes from the idea that Jedi, suppress emotions, which they do not, and you can see that if you actually watch the series, or read any meta honestly.

2. People show emotions differently, sometimes their actions speak louder than their words. Besides, Ki-Adi does show emotions throughout of the series:

Regret over the fact that his men were hurt:

Sadness:

And that's just off the top of my head (and what Tumblr allows me to put with the image limit).

And so no, he is not emotionless.

Ki-Adi disliked/hated Anakin and/or Ahsoka

First of all, there are already some posts talking about how the Jedi Council Did Not Hate Anakin, so if you are basing off your opinion that Ki-Adi hated Anakin because of one of the Council scenes where he spoke, I recommend reading them before coming back here with it in mind that being stern and pointing out when people are lying does not equal hate.

Second of all, relatively on the Ahsoka matter, most people use the whole Temple Bombing arc as a reason to show that he at least disliked her.

When, might I remind you, she was a suspected criminal, you can't argue that the only evidence was the video, as by the time she was judged by the Council, not only had she had that but also had her escape (which ended with a few vode murdered may I remind you), her working with a known Separatist, resisting her re-arrest even if she was captured at the end and being found with the nanobombs.

And as Mace Windu said:

And we all know what Palpatine would have done had he seen any opposition early (it rhymes with Border 76).

"But MR!" you may cry, "The Council (which included Ki-Adi) had already decided that she was guilty before that on To Catch A Jedi!"

Oh? You mean after she escaped, and dead clone troopers obviously killed by a lightsaber were found, after there was already a damaging video against her + an investigation (implied that it was run by Tarkin, I will give you that) declaring her guilty of their murders? After that?

(And Yoda uses the word "may" btw, when he says that they believe that Ahsoka was behind the crime, if that means anything to you.)

Add the fact that she was later found with Ventress and the bombs + the whole conversation with Tarkin earlier in The Wrong Jedi ... well, tbh, they didn't really have a choice.

Finishing on this matter, I recommend you to read some meta on the matter to also further your understanding on where I'm coming from.

ALSO,

Do I need to remind you that he literally went along with Anakin and Ahsoka's game of who killed more droids in Landing on Point Rain, when not even Obi-Wan joined? If he hated them, he would have scolded them or at least scoffed at them, not join them.

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In conclusion, Ki-Adi often times receives hate even though it is unfounded and undeserved, and suffers from this fandom echo chamber.

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