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nysrage · 3 months

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THE HOUSE PARTY, Onyankopon.

synopsis: after long nights of studying & days of grueling tests, you needed an outlet to relax. you didn’t expect to do it with your crush though.

content: ony’s an alpha, college au, house party, sororities & fraternities, alcohol, explicit language, sexual tension, college ‘crush’ that’s rlly yo man, a smidge of fluff, & smut.

nys note: would you believe this was all inspired from the twitter link below… lol it’s giving ‘options’ remix for ony.

Midterms had finally come to an end and everyone on campus could finally take a deep breath. whether they passed or failed, they were all looking for an outlet to get school work off their mind. Including you. The first year of college has been an adjustment, juggling school and finally being on your own. exploring different sides of yourself, making friends and losing bonds that you thought would last forever. it could all pile up at times. plus the overwhelming tears were growing old, but you couldn’t deny that the main reason you seeked a party was because you wanted to see your lil ‘friend’ tonight too. midterms had the two of you so busy with little time to speak focused on nothing but your education. so you decided to join the scene with your girls.

The street of the apartment complex was full of people either just arriving, talking, smoking, or waiting to get behind that door of the house party. Thrumming of the speakers could be heard before even reaching the top of the stairs, the opening door pouring out clouded smoke soon as it opens. You and your group of friends navigate through the crowd. Each of your index fingers locked into eachothers belt loops so no one could get lost or pulled away without notice. The house dimmed and filled with ambient led lights. People of all different backgrounds crowded to each corner with either a cup, blunt, or some ass in their hands. Letting loose for the night and celebrating their time as a college student.

You and your group of 3 settled behind the enclosed circle of people dancing and catching ass. Finally happy with the view you had of everyone and the exits of the place, throwing back a couple shots and dancing to the music. Recording the whole moment on the camcorder your influencer bestie brought to vlog her stay. The content being provided to her back to back since the night began, and even more more since that whistle of the sorrors and frats began. The intro of ‘another nasty song’ oozing out of the speakers, groups of people surrounding the greeks as they lineup for their strolls.

The alphas happening to be right next to you and your friends, performing their stroll so perfectly. That black and old gold contrasting nicely against their skin. One alpha in particular catching your eyes. Onyankopon, your lil friend that you found yourself pinning over since you stepped onto campus. Nice chocolatey smooth skin, thick brows, full lips, and a small faded curly fro. Dimpled cheeks and pretty white teeth on display as he strolls, glancing over the surrounding people until they landed on you. Looking you over real good, biting down on his bottom lip between their signature words “Who You Wit?” Many of their seducing looks they give to their audience.

The dj transitioning into the throwbacks once the strolls were done. ‘party’ by beyoncé filling the room, as your favorite alpha towered over you. “okayy, friend! you lit huh?” you giggled, giving him a playful pat to the chest. “What’s goin’? Ain’t seen you in a minute.” acknowledging your nosy friends with a nod, busy whispering and betting on when y’all would cut the act. “Been out the way, y’all new jackets are nicee!” Toying with the zipper on his fraternities varsity jacket, looking himself over slightly with a smirk. “Preciatee it, preciatee it.. You look good too.” His monotone voice barely audible over the blasting music. Leaving you leaning in to hear his words best you could, “Huh? Couldn’t hear you.” just for ony to wrap his arm around your waist and bring you close, sexy voice speaking intently in your ear. “You look good as fuck right now.”

“Thank you.” whispering back shyly, all flustered and looking anywhere but his face. Refusing to fall into the trap of men, but the longer you two talked to each other the more you found yourself wanting him more. He was upperclass, only by a year but he was still very known around camp, and not bad looking in the least. Walking different girls to class, seducing woke with one look during his stroll, and always dressed to impress whether it’s chill or not. You wanted nothing to do with being another girl in his roster, but the two always seemed to gravitate towards each other.

Ony glanced behind him, scoping out the small space. “C’mere..” taking your hands in his and pulling you close to dance, swaying your body back and forth. Ony bending down to your height to whisper in your ear, “Missed you pretty girl.” His voice deep and smooth, traveling from your ear and straight to your core. “Looking and smelling all delicious tonight.” running his hands along your hips, admiring the slight fit your put on for the function. “Someone’s had a few, been partying good huh?” Dodging those little comments, trying your best to steer the convo but ony wasn’t having it. Not tonight. “This cool n’ all, I was really tryna be on sum chill tonight.”

“Really? after being tied down to class these past few weeks.” not convinced of anything but ony was persistent. “even after being tied down.”

Replying with a small hum, the tension between you was louder than the speakers in the room. Ony just staring at your pretty face without much to say, nerves leaving you rocking back and forth. “what..?”

“tryna follow me? need to talk to you.” Maybe it was the liquid courage but tonight you’d take your chances even if it was for one night only. So you let your friends know of your whereabouts, and followed him to his room.

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Walking around the space, taking it all in. Very neat, cozy, and smelled of mahogany teakwood. His desk area full of intricately placed papers and photos of his personal achievement, family, and friends. The click of the door and his voice pulls your mind away from the frames. “Why you keep playing?”

“We’ll your bold all of a sudden..” You huffed, typing away nervously at your phone. Randomly in your bestfriend message thread just to avoid those pretty brown eyes you always got so lost in. “M’serious. Why you playing games?”

“This got to be the liquor talking.” You chuckled, pushing your hair from in your face. “I don’t play games ony..” Finally meeting his eyes, arms crossed as the two of you went back and forth. “Mmcht, ain’t no need for liquid courage. This oblivious shit ain’t getting me where I need to be, and that’s with you.”

“There’s nothing oblivious here ony..” Trying to convince not only him but yourself. You couldn’t grow weak in the knees the first time he pressed your relationship, not when he could be filling your ear with anything he wants. “So you can tell me face to face that you don’t want me too..?” Voice sweet and sincere. His eyes darting nervously around your face waiting for your answer. Not one cocky or proud bone in his body that led you to believe he was feeding you bullshit for just another notch in his belt. All of those walls falling just enough to let him in, finally admitting to yourself that the attraction was mutual. “I c-can’t, cause I want you too.”

Ony takes a step forward, a small smile on his lips from your nervousness. Thumb lifting your chin to put that pretty face on display for him. Running the pad of his thumb along the soft skin of your face. “You know you my baby, lemme in that pretty mind of yours. So I can get to know all of you and make you mine.” and those words were sealed with the soft feeling of his lips on yours. A small peck that had you going back on every single word you meant to stand on. “You gone stay with me..?” Nodding your head with a soft smile. Ony pulling you in for yet another kiss, slipping his tongue in your mouth and intertwining it with yours. Swallowing the whimper you gave him when his strong hand collided with your ass. Kiss so hot and steamy that it lead you right into his bed, where you’ve wanted to be for as long as the two of you were friends.

“o-ohh my godd!” Moaning out loud as you wanted, every sound from his room drowned out by the thrumming speakers in the distance. House party still going strong whether he’d been occupied or not.

Lips red and swollen from how much you’ve been biting down hard on your lip while ony had you in doggy, taking his deep strokes. Moans falling constantly from your lips while your warm slick pooled around his pretty brown dick. Filling you up so full and caressing that sweet spot within, strong hips colliding with your ass as ony watches the recoil. “Mmm, damn that pussy feel so fucking good.” hand gripping at your fleshy hip, eyes focused on where the two of you were connected. listening to the beautiful sounds of his heavy balls slapping against your throbbing clit, and the gushing squelch of your pussy had him losing himself inside you. His moans and groans mixing with yours as he gave you every inch of that dick. “mh—ouu, shittt. mhmm.” voice shaking from that fast approaching nut he’d been holding out on. Wanting a few more out of you himself before he was finished with you.

“Yes onyy, you fuck me so good!” but after these few words from you, he found himself letting go. “Yea, you like this dick?” hips pistoning faster, pounding into you hard and steady leaving your eyes meeting the back of your skull. Wet two-toned pussy gripping him tight to suck him in deeper, as a strings of incoherent moans were exchanged between you too. “ima give you all the dick you want.” Angling his hips towards that spot that greeted him with a stream of squirt, drenching both your thighs and his pelvis. Dick barely staying inside from how wet you were for him. Pulling out and leaving hot streams of nut on your ass, panting and moaning as he came back to. That heavy feeling of something sitting atop of your ass never fading, “Your still hard..?” you questioned, looking back at him with your pretty fucked out face. Giving him that last push to have him standing at attention again.

“you thought i was done?” he chuckled, sinking back into you with a loud squelch.

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redclercs · 11 months

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DELICATE✰ CHARLES LECLERC.

INTERLUDE: this is why we can't have nice things.

— the one where everybody's waiting to see the fall out.

warnings: this is basically like the INTRO chapter with all media, we're going to pretend publications and broadcast timings are not mistaken or fake, okay? ok. am i myself if i don't mention taylor swift in every chapter? no. foul language.

masterlist ✢ next

By Tom Gill // June 23rd

Vic Presley confirms y/n hasn't reached out to her even after Vic called asked her to in a publication a few days ago.

"I think she has blocked my number by now," Presley said, "I am devastated by this. I didn't think it was like her to discard relationships so easily."

Presley and y/ln have been friends since 2020, when they met at the opening of the SENSE Club in downtown Los Angeles and quickly became inseparable.

"y/n really was— is my best friend. I miss her and I want her to come back to me."

Vic Presley also commented on y/n's split from Aidan Kim in her own way: "I hate that she hurt Aidan. I was not aware they had so many problems, that's definitely the kind of stuff you tell your best friend."

y/n was spotted just a week ago with alleged (and constantly denied) boyfriend, Charles Leclerc on a stroll around Central Park. Victoria Presley couldn't help but speak her mind on this.

"y/n has changed so much since she met that guy. I met him in Miami and Monaco, he's not one of the good ones. He's managing to isolate her from everyone who loves her."

Once again, Victoria urges y/n to contact her so they can rekindle their friendship. "I am not angry at her, disappointed maybe. But I will always have my arms open for her."

SEE ALSO:

→ Mia Kim, the talented sister of Aidan Kim, set to make big screen debut.

→ Were Mia Kim and Victoria Presley mocking y/n y/ln in new Youtube Video?

→ Mia Kim: "y/n should have kept her mouth shut, there's still shit to be exposed about her."

FROM THE DREW BARRYMORE SHOW — JULY 6TH

[Y/N]: ❝(...) What matters to me right now, is that people now I am nothing of what they're calling me. I am not perfect, nobody is. But I have never cheated on a partner or used someone else as a 'toy' and most importantly, I built my own career.❞

[Y/N]: ❝It gets exhausting, you hear things about yourself you never even thought possible. It could be laughable if it wasn't so cruel❞

[Y/N]: ❝My relationship ended in February, but I believe it was over way before that. I acted in a way that was not fair to my ex-partner nor to myself, and I expressed my regrets about it. He had the right to not accept my apology, but not to make stuff up about the whole situation.❞

[Y/N]: ❝He's feeding his ego, he's a man, after all. But doing it at the expense of my work and my reputation is disgusting. I want one producer or casting agent to come forward and say they gave me a role thanks to my ex-boyfriend's input, just one.❞

[Y/N]: ❝I have surrounded myself with different people. They have been a great support system, always motivating me, and holding me back when I'm about to do something stupid. This also means I have left some people out of what's going on with me, and it's for the best.❞

[Y/N]: ❝Taylor Swift, bless her soul, has given me a lot of advice. She's the sweetest person ever and since the same guy that is trying to drag me has gone after her in a few interviews, she wants this to be over as much as I do. I think he made a mistake by messing with Taylor too.❞

[Y/N]: ❝Rumors will keep running, but I am finally at peace with knowing who I am and who I can trust. But those 'sources' should know my patience is running out.❞

By Jenny Highland // July 20th

Mia Kim and Victoria Presley are the hottest topic right now, but not for the reasons both influencers wish, as they are in trouble!

Both Los Angeles locals have received a 'Cease and Desist' letter from recovering actress y/n y/ln this week, per her team's advice. This was confirmed by both Presley and Kim on Twitter, saying they are 'flabbergasted' that y/n is accusing them of defamation.

While y/n is far from gaining her place back in the public's heart, we are not blind to what Victoria and Mia have done for the past month, riding the wave to get views and followers talking about their shared time with y/n. Who has every right to ask them to stop, as she has done in several interviews throughout the month.

For many people, this makes it more evident that it was either Presley or Kim who contacted tabloids to get their five minutes of fame and sink y/n deeper.

Actions have consequences for everyone, and if y/n decided to pick this fight at this point in her downfall/rerise/wherever it is that we are with her, it's because she knows she can win, right?

─── team principal radio: ❝thank you for reading! please let me know your thoughts! I know I'm ending your patience with this slow burn thing but I promise you we're getting there! Charles is back next chapter and you'll see haha. again, your interactions mean the world to me and i'm sorry if sometimes i don't reply to your comments, i'm just awkward but i love you all♡❞

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definitelynotriana · 4 months

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Hey we just got the Disventure Camp All Stars Intro!

It was so good and they improved so much when it comes to animating the scenes :D

Let’s see what we found..

- So it starts off with Emily pushing off Oliver, Marcus and Nina. So by that I’m guessing that Emily is going to be an antagonist, she doesn’t seems very nice. And will probably cause more drama between the contestants.

- And JAMES AND LAKE LETS GO!! These two seem to get along pretty well. I reckon Aiden, James and Lake are going to be a power trio like Hunter, Ally and Tess last season.

- Speaking of Hunter and Ally, I think they might’ve had an issue that happened before the season started. They also could’ve started dating are now becoming extremely toxic and hostile towards each other. And they must be really loud for Fiore to making them to shut up.

- Also I reckon that Fiore and Alec’s arguments and issues haven’t been resolved, from this photo I predict that he’s just telling her all the things that make her a “mistake”, and I don’t think Fiore cares just by seeing the look on her face

- Miriam is on the look out immediately, considering that she was the winner of season 1, and her age. She’s probably thinking that people are going to target her, (which I don’t blame her for) and is probably looking for an immunity totem. I don’t think she’ll make it far though.

- Now the 2 antagonists, Yul and Grett. From the poster of Grett we can already tell that this will discuss weight loss, and her happiness and stuff. This relationship will most likely be toxic since well, Yul’s in this relationship. It’s either that Yul forced her to lose weight to keep dating her or Grett did it for her own happiness and Yul and Grett are actually a good couple, (though I doubt it.) Most likely, Yul will probably use Grett to get further in the game.

- The look on Jake’s face! I really hope he gets a redemption arc this season and makes it far this time, I thought Aiden and Jake would be friends but from this intro I really don’t think so anymore, hopefully I’m wrong? Anyway, seems like Tom and Aiden become friends, although I don’t think Tom and Aiden will start dating considering Aiden already has a good boyfriend. And by Ashley’s concerned face (not this photo), I reckon she’ll try and help Jake from getting jealous.

- We got a new trio!! And Ellie and Gabby! I never thought that Tess would be into painting, but it would be great for these three to get along this season. Especially away from the Ally and Hunter drama.

- Also the way James looks at Aiden!! So cute, also since when were Aiden’s eyes so round?? It looks different, or is it just me?

- And the season 1 cast! I think Jake is going to have some insecurity issues about Tom, considering that his trust has been broken many times. But I hope that Ashley and Miriam would help them (especially Jake) to be a better couple ❤️

- Connor and Riya being center stage! I bet they’re the main couple, I think over the time before the season Riya got famous and became rich, although from this shot she seems to be fame hungry or whatever you call it.

- Also James and Aiden are holding hands! I love them, Ellie and Gabby have their usual stare and stuff, and Grett and Yul as a couple too.

That’s all for now! And also congrats on finishing reading my very long predictions based on the amazing intro! Thank you Odd Nations Cartoons for working so hard!

You won’t hear from me for a couple days because I’ll busy for the next few days so I hope you understand if I don’t reply to anything for the meanwhile. I’ll maybe post again after Christmas next week!

See you next time!

#disventure camp #disventure camp all stars #tomjake #lgbtq #Disventure camp Aiden #disventure camp jaiden #disventure camp yul x grett #connor disventure camp #disventure camp ashley #disventure camp fiore #disventure camp tess #disventure camp hunter #disventure camp ally #Disventure camp Miriam #odd nation cartoons

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beautifulpersonpeach · 7 months

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Which members promotions were your favorite so far? Hobi might win for me because that listening party was super fun and Lollapalooza was crazy. Also More sits at the same table as SMFpt2 for me as far as being really shocking and exciting when it dropped!

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Hi Anon!

Nothing beats Yoongi’s D-DAY tour for me. My god what an experience. I was fortunate to attend multiple stops and I still have fever dreams in the middle of the day remembering how hard I was screaming along to Burn It and Huh, how my friend burst into tears during Snooze, how I choked up a bit during Life Goes On and finally lost it on The Last. The encore tours gave me the emotional equivalent of a blood transfusion. Seeing Jimin, Namjoon, and Jungkook on stage in a proper concert setting for the first time in almost a year, was really the best parting gift and I’ll always be grateful to Yoongi for it. I love that man very, very much.

That cute practice session Yoongi did for the ‘I’m so cute’ or whatever challenge with Jimin too, subbing ARMYs with screaming plushies and the live he did reading fan messages teasing us about his seven tattoo… and then that cheeky reveal after the tour ended…

Yoongi gave me everything and more with his album and the tour.

Other members too:

- SeokJin going to Argentina to promote The Astronaut with Coldplay was incredible. The planning and organizing behind that feat couldn’t have been easy but somehow they made it work and LatAm ARMYs were finally able to see at least one Tannie for the first time in a long while. That really was amazing.

- Taehyung’s Tiny Desk performances are 🤌🏽

- I loved how Jimin really thought outside the box with his promotions, choosing to go on many really fun Korean variety shows. These are shows BTS either hadn’t done ever or in something like 5 years. A lot of my K-ARMY friends loved how Jimin seemed to prioritize them fully in ways that hadn’t been done for a while.

- I tried hard to attend Joon’s small concert but work commitments didn’t allow that possibility, but I also really love his promotion choices. My partner (surprisingly) has become a tiny bit obsessed with Joon’s Tiny Desk performance lol, so I suspect Joon has gained a new fan.

- Think I’ve already talked about how Hobipalooza was the concert highlight of 2022 for me. Hobi had such a short time to put everything together, and I’m proud of him for going out of his comfort zone a bit sending out invites and throwing the launch party. I loved seeing him just celebrate his success, seeing the other members chill out and have a good time.

- It was nice seeing that at least one member did not forget Europe exists with their promotions (😭), so I’m glad Jungkook could make the trip over to promote Seven in the UK.

The rapline’s album projects are easily some of the best releases this year in any genre for me. And I’m not even trying to be biased. Corroborated by critics reviews, each album is a solid, cohesive, and cerebrally stimulating piece of art and I’m so proud of them for putting it together. It’s easy to see how BTS has become the biggest band in the world when you have these three men who can stand as respected artists in their own right, being the bedrock of the music created by BTS for the last 10 years.

Jimin’s debut with FACE ended k-pop in 2023. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but the industry as we know it, life as we know it, Jimin as we knew him, ended in March 2023. What Jimin did with Set Me Free Pt 2 still gives me goosebumps when I think about it. That song was a warning shot, a small mercy to the industry to warn them in advance of who Jimin is prepared to become as a solo artist and as Jimin of BTS, and I cannot overstate how excited I am for his next project. FACE as an album is the complete package. His songs are just good. Like, actually good. Good enough to play anywhere and any time. That’s the kind of music Jimin makes. Imagine hearing Face-off in a concert arena… imagine hearing the intro play before he comes on stage. Can you even imagine….

Lol I’m starting to hurt myself with these imagines.

Taehyung’s album too is very good (though these days it only gets plays from me in the evenings). And while Seven isn’t my favorite release, it’s still a well made song that Jungkook of course has done a phenomenal job with. Twice now he’s had to promote it outdoors in very bad weather and he’s kept his vocals stable and well projected. He’s working hard and I’m hoping it translates well into work done for his solo album debut later this year.

I have almost no complaints in the debut solo showcases from all the members, in their promotion styles, and in the overall presentation. These albums were all very decent and respectable first showings from the members of the biggest group in the world. The response from the general public and professional critics has been very favourable, and the fandom has supported each member to be as successful as one would expect for anyone from BTS.

I’m a very happy ARMY in Chapter 2 ^_^

#bts #jimin #yoongi #Namjoon #taehyung #hoseok #SeokJin #Jungkook #bts chapter 2 #BTS solo debuts #face album #indigo #d day tour #jitb #layover #jk seven #the astronaut

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booksandpaperss · 3 months

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reasons to watch jujutsu kaisen

I made a poll asking if u guys have seen and are into jjk and a lot of y’all have not seen it at all so I’m making a list of reasons why it’s worth watching 🫡

-it has an amazing cast of characters! I think it’s one of the few shows I’ve watched besides arcane where I’ve genuinely felt like every main and supporting character has their own unique personality and motivations, and many of them are imperfect with flaws that directly influence the plot, so much so that I cld probably make a separate post on this

-the female characters specifically! jjk does this rlly shocking thing where it… considers women as people?? that are just as capable of having complex characterizations with strengths and weaknesses and motivations as male characters are??? and they’re not just onscreen for their bodies to be sexualized???? it’s quite refreshing and honestly a little shocking to see, especially in anime and especially in a shounen, and while Gege is not perfect at writing women it is still very nice to see that he actually cares. And it avoids the pitfall of “super op woman who has no weaknesses and never bleeds” bc pretty much everyone in this show bleeds and all the mains are op, not just the female characters. Plus the women who are fighters are drawn with actual muscles

-well thought out lore and world building that is almost as interesting as the characters themselves

-pretty much forces you to think deeply about the nature of the human condition

-certain supporting characters have a tragic past that is explored in a prequel arc and also is directly related to the present day plot

-features one of my all time favorite anime protagonists, and in my opinion one of the best shounen protagonists out there. n you can’t help but love him <3

-genuinely mind blowing animation, mappa animators seriously outdid themselves. the fight scenes will have you wondering if said animators have seen their families at all in the last 5 years, and 90% of all jjk shots look like they cld be on an HD poster

-several subtextually queer characters, whether intended or not (tho it seems very intentional to me)

-fascinating character dynamics that are both already well done and have lots of potential to build on

-intros and outros good enough to watch every time. I almost never skipped them when I was binging

-the men. if you are someone who is attracted to men then you will very much enjoy how they’re drawn, and if you’re not attracted to men you can still appreciate how the animators draw them the way women in anime are normally treated. it’s hilarious

-the fanfic for this anime that i have found so far is so good, and there are plenty of longfics to keep you entertained

and lastly, I cannot ethically make this post without a warning at the end: jjk is tragic. it is a tragedy. the author does not believe in the concept of plot armor. season 1 is manageable and not that bad, but I recommend preemptively assembling fix it fics before starting season 2 once you know you’re faves. :D

that’s all! hope this at least got u considering bc this anime is my new obsession rn

#jjk #elli’s random thoughts

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canadiancryptid · 9 months

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Spy x Family Episodes 13-15: The Dog Saga

So, these ones were sorta one long saga, so I'll be putting my notes in one long post. These episodes removed any doubt in my mind that this was one of my favorite shows I've ever seen.

Hey, new intro! This is so cute, I love it.

But this one shot gives me thoughts. I have so many questions about her past, and I can't stop wondering.

Yor is so bad at cooking, but at least she tries. She's not great at the traditional motherly stuff, but she's still amazing in her own way.

Those pet shop dogs have more abs than I do. I'm not afraid of getting biten by them, I'd be afraid of getting punched. Jeez.

Well, okay, maybe not. Those teeth look like buzz saws, so I'm definitely still afraid of getting biten, too.

Anya trying to help her Papa with his spy stuff without him knowing she's trying to help is always amazing.

"I'm not sure if I'm changing or if its just the times, but a kid like this being a terrorist is a hard pill to swallow"

That just says so much about how much his family has changed him. He can't see things the way he used to.

This dog looks like a cross between a fluffly dog, a polar bear and an otter, and he has the voice of an elderly human man. I love him already.

And he can see the future. Fun.

WHY DO WE HAVE MORE BACKSTORY ABOUT THE DOG THAN WE DO ABOUT ANYA?

Also, how to you get future vision from trying to science the dogs to be smarter? How does that work? I would understand if it was based on knowledge, but he's predicting Lloyd's death before he ever met him.

Those dogs ARE smart! If you aren't afraid of an angry Yor, then you're dumb. They no better than to mess with her after she turned the last fuy into a living bouncy ball. Human bodies are not supposed to move like that.

Anya just saved the world by drawing on a wall with ketchup. And nobody knows it was her.

Anya is SMART. She knows how to get her way. She knows the agency will ho along with almost anything to keep her happy and keep operation stryx on track. Because she knows about it in the first place, she knows she can make empty threats to derail the mission as a final trump card. We know she wouldn't, she wants to keep her family the way it is. But they don't know what's going on in her 4-year-old brain.

THEY'RE TOO CUTE I JUST CAN'T!

I'm not okay my heart is a puddle on the floor I love them so much-

So, I feel like there HAS to be some big reveal eventually. There's no way that doesn't end up causing problems. And I refuse to believe the whole "just leave the family behind and go to the next mission" plan was ever ACTUALLY on the table, even if he thought it was.

I think it's gonna end with either Lloyd quiting/retiring from the agency, or with the whole family becoming a part of it. Yor is already well suited for most of that stuff, and Anya has proven she can do the whole mission thing... well, as well as a kid her age can. Still, there's no way the family breaks up. No possible way.

And after getting that little bit of backstory from Handler, I think she'd actually be pretty understanding of either option. Looking forward to seeing how everything plays out.

So far, my only real complaint is how little we've seen of Yor. I mean, we see her as a mother, and she's amazing, but her whole assasin thing is just... there? Like, we know she’s doing that in the background, and she’s done a lot of impressive things, but we almost never see her as an assasin. She's the only one really out of the loop with the whole Operation Stryx thing, and with everything focusing on Lloyd and Anya, she doesn't get nearly as much time to shine. I really like her, but it feels like the show has been doing a lot of telling without much showing. It's not like we haven't seen anything, but it would be nice for her to have a little more time to shine.

#spy x family #anya forger #bond forger #lloyd forger #yor forger #you get three guesses as to who my favorite character is and the first two don't count #she's just so cute I love her so much #cryptid says stuff

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HELLO AND WHAT IS UP GUYS TODAY WE'RE DOING ANOTHER CS WEEKLY POST A DAY LATE

okay enough youtuber intro. gross

ITS TIME FOR THE FISHY DOUBLOON CAPER!! Not my favorite, admittedly, but some great moments in there for sure (see: carmen gets put in a fairly desperate situation for the first time in the series as carmen. nice.)

OKAY HERE WE GO notes under the cut because they're LONG

how cool would the intro have been if carmen's passport had gained a new stamp every episode for the place she went!!!

oh i totally forgot the acme b plot in this episode thats pretty good

s1 chase: not one single red thread to pull s2 chase, buying french michaels out of red string: is that a challenge

it was stuffed in her black sack

i love the mints. they had to set them up so bad so julia could follow them

fuck you chase. maybe if you ate less mints you could be nicer

IN LOVE WITH HOW JULIA GETS FED UP. YES GIRL. FUCK HIM AND HIS FUEL HE DESERVES IT

DAMN ZARI HIT HIM FROM REAL FAR AWAY THAT WEAPON IS NEVER THAT LONG RANGE AGAIN

julia he doesnt deserve you

they sneak "where in the world" into every line they can

have i mentioned the way cs draws water because its all so prettyyy

OH, WET pls

no, player we have to wait two more seasons for argentina ok

"not without any real clues" girl idk where you think clues come from but your birthplace could be a fantastic place to start looking

the equator joke was funny

bananafish? as in the anime? (doesn't know what im talking about at all)

quito!! fun fact: the first highest capital is Bolivia's, La Paz!

NOSE IS BLEEDING? BLOOD? In a KIDS SHOW?

omg they foreshadowed the fucking tuna it nearly smacked carmen..

"surface crew is on high alert!" (pan to zack, barfing)

i love that zack's weakness is the ocean. he grew up in boston. literally being in the home of the fish makes him barf

i love how ivy is not helping at all she's so funny

zack barfs way too many times in this show sorry. they crossed the line when someone shoved her fingers in his barf and squelched em around. no. no thanks. stop making him barf

i have to think this episode was one of the earlier ones abby trott recorded for because she is so violently boston at every turn its hilarious

where the fuck is carmen's air tank. that thing on her back is her water jetpack. where is she breathing from. her tubing is connected to something that is. not big enough to supply her with oxygen for that long

woww the framing of that shot where carmen swims towards the ship...she sounds like she supposed to be very excited about it which i love for her

every single time im like surely she cant fit through that hole and then she does. the reason this is possible is because despite having hips CARMEN HAS NO ASS

i also like the little lookaround she does like idk

GOD the ship is so pretty i love how everyone immediately destroys everything inside of it

carmen "im swimming through the past" sandiego, destroying everything in the fucking ship that she touches

why the fuck is there just a crowbar down there

SHES JUST TOSSING SHIT OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL HISTORY IS TREASURE CARMEN YOU FUCKIN HYPOCRITE

love that player picks up the HGRHGDHSRHRGFGRGRGRGRGRGGWGEGEGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR of el topo before carmen does

the fact that carmen is not terrified upon hearing, deep underwater, a roaring, grumbling noise coming from nowhere is a testament to how stup

WHEN

SHE JUST GOES FLYING ITS SO FUNNY TO ME AJFGS

see el topo has o2 tanks what the fuck is up with carmen breathing underwater. she has to always be streamlined ig

no way can they fucking hear each other no way nuh uh

HE JUST RAMS INTO HER THATS SO FUNNY

i like how player waits until a very nice time to ask carmen what the fuck just burst out of the floor. little break in the action <3

hi. the way carmen says el topo. thank you (applause)

love how player doesnt warn zack and ivy. theyll be fine he said

obsessed with how le chevre's legs bend like the dancing stick bug meme

OH MY GOD THE PURE GAY ENERGY BLAST OF LE CHEVRE LANDING KILLED THEM

sorry side note ivy is so cute

le chevre is. yeah

I LOVE HOW CARMEN JUST S N A T C H E S HIS ANKLE YOU CAN SEE HER THOUGHT PROCESS ZERO IN ON HIS FOOT

the way carmen moves in the water is sooo satisying shes like a wikki stix she just bends

also love how carmen just bounces off of el topo

i also also love how her flippers just gently wave in the breeze

they just fling each other its so fucking funny. she steps on him. he flings her. she full body crashes into him

like how they just keep an arm around each other for a bit. chilling. buddies

do you think it hurts el topo how much venom is in carmen's voice when she sees him now?

anyways

the fish. wow that really did just happen

she just kicks his ass what did he do to her

ALSO this is one of very few fights where carmen is very actively in hand-to-hand!! she usually tries to avoid it i think...more evasive maneuvers/defense but shes BARELLING into el topo shes just doing everything she fucking can to fling him far distances

bubble transitions <3 its like bubble guppies fr

eternally beyond grateful that they dropped ivys weird. woke feminist how do you do fellow women thing ok sorry the fisherwoman thing was. out of place. le chevre is right there and youre worried about fisherwoman

le chevre, the frenchest fucker alive: you dont sound like youre from around here

the absolute terror on ivy's face is sending me. someone else (jackie?? was that you??) pointed out that she reacts like this because they met le chevre in boston harbor but he happens to not recognize them.....super cool i love that s1 and 2 were written together

not a single braincell in le chevres head

she was really about to try to wrestle and do the heimlech maneuver on an 97 pound fish girl no

she sounds so black sheep when she says "come on seriously" 🥺

NO im calling bullshit no way was carmen able to snatch that pipe in the two seconds el topo bodychecked her carmens got fucking superpowers she does not have pickpocketing abilities she has superpowers

we love the attempted murder <3 thats. so dangerous to do but carmen just is like teehee oxygen is gone!!! hope u dont drown or panic or get decompression illness teehee

the most gigantic tracker in the history of mankind

i like how carmen holds that gun whjhehgshsa if she werent underwater she'd be blowing the smoke off it

they didnt even try to come up with a convincing alias they just went with another california city wheeze

wait how is player connected to that walkie talkie. im pretty sure correct me if im wrong but i think that walkie talkies in ecuador dont connect to ones in ontario

theyre such siblings

gay saves the day once more

AGAIN WITH SHOVING THEM IN THE WATER or wait is this the first time?? TREND SETTING?? i feel like they did it once before this but ig not???

lets motor is the same thing as lets jet

HOLY SHIT THEY WERE SO FAR FROM SHORE

THE BUBBLE TRANSITIONS THIS EP SO TRUE

yes carmen speaking other languages i am of the opinion that she should have spoken so many all the time

she cute

i love how loud carmen is talking "SO ITS AN ECUADORIAN DOUBLOON" also hi dr marquez

I AM LITERALLY SUCH A CHILD THIS SHOULD NOT BE FUNNY TO ME "dick?" "dick." (innocent deer-like blinking) gay-bisexual solidarity

marquez: yeah im leading an excavation tea- carmen: i robbed that fucking boat

the deer in headlights look they give is so funny not one braincell avaliable

the way her accusing them drives them all into terrified scrambling

i also like how marquez just accepts the fact that they robbed the boat because they say theyre coin hobbyists (i mean. she doesnt. she follows them. but still)

i love dr marquez shes so cool. i like her voice also

you know carmen's about to do some craaazy shit when an archaeologist starts talking about history and they zoom in on her eyes going all different directions

zack and ivy being so insensitive is so fucking funny. kids do you know who your boss is

the sibling-like manner in which ivy shoves zack in the face to get out of the boat faster than he does is the funniest thing in the world

GASP! vile has a darker, sexier, even more obnoxious tracker!

lots a shit beeping in this establishment today

chase is such a dumbshit i love him as soon as zari reaches into her jacket he disintegrates. and then he saves it. such grace and talent

chase is just constantly ???????????????????????????

CHIEF! hi chief

what were the handcuffs even for

chase gets kidnapped and hes just like can i go back to work please

VILE DRAMATIC MUSIC DRAMATIC CLOSEUP

damn le chevre just pulled that slick wet thing out hot damn it was still dripping....what? the tracker. the tracker was wet. what did you think i was talking about?

"if carmen sandiego is after this doubloon" YOU GUYS WERE AFTER THE DOUBLOON WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

no. maelstrom never call yourself papa again

el topo just hanging over his shoulder <3

el topo is so cute

I CAN CHASE AWAY THE GOPHERS he so sweet

tfw your boyfriend is kissing ur boss's ass

mael just sitting there listening to them like 👁️👁️

mael is not even evil hes just stupid and petty hes so funny

WOO HOO ALTITTY SICKNESS LETS GOOO KNOCK THAT BITCH OUT

leonardo di caprio stars in the mole of wall street

who in vile was contaminating cheese OH MY GOD WONDER RAT???

i like how chief is just flat out like. yeahh we dont actually. know if they exist or not but we think so we really do

the scrambled brains joke was so funny chief has actually a lot of personality. i would like her if she were real yknow

the way chief snaps back to being formal when chase clears his throat its ok girl hes not important or competent

HAHA there are a lot of tiny callbacks to where in the world sprinkled throughout here that i never really noticed. gee carmen being the leader of vile sure is far fetched. that would never happen

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acme's introduction is actually pretty cool. a third party that could either help or hurt carmen but seem to want her captured either way

love that background dad who shoves a fish into his kid's face

zack's joints cracked more than jo's wtf

the way she goes "fish maharh-" and then passes out gets me every time its so comedic. she doesnt like. step out of the car and in the background, as zack and ivy are chatting, slowly look ill and then pass out, crashing to the floor. zack and ivy run over, terrified. NO she walks out and goes FISH MAHAHRaha.... and then puts her hand on her forehead and faints like a victorian woman and then moans on the floor for thirty seconds

she totally got a concussion from that right

THE PROGRESSION OF CHASE'S VOICEMAIL THIS SEASON FROM THE BIT ABOUT THE LOVESEAT AND ANOTHER THING LATER IS SUCH A GOOD LITTLE DETAIL

hi the way her voice reverberates just slightly in the empty garage. good sound design

omg carmen CAN sweat look jackie

ALSO look at my comic about this because just do

the whiplash of seeing coach brunt and then immediately hearing her speak in a gentle ecuadorian accent

the way raf enunciates words should be studied

chief forcibly transferring him is so funny. no. you have no free will you will be acme right now

mmm she calls out for them immediately <333 they are family. also thee panic at waking up somewhere unfamiliar and alone....what if she thought vile had her again. does she call for them when she wakes up from nightmares. i need to know

HI THIS IS MY FAVORITE FACE CARMEN EVER MAKES

carmens bag ROCKET LAUNCHED those tools across the room DAMN

see i feel like that throwing star had to be 3d it looked 3d?? also why does carmen have throwing stars. also dr marquez is literally the most trusting person on the planet

zack: dont be embarrassed! its ok :) carmen: literally couldnt be more emotionless. literally could not care less about the attention zack is trying to give her. did you find the fucking coin

carmen waiting until they had already wheeled it through the doors to mention it was being wheeled away for comedic effect is such a mood

zack reacting like ivy even though he was literally watching with carmen as the fish got wheeled away

carmen: le chevre. ivy, voice blasting through the halls: AGAIN??

yeah he would id you but he literally tried to skewer these two on a fishhook three hours ago

her face when she says bid to win is so cute

who gave zack the paddle.

150,000 DOLLARS!

ivys look of terror when he says that is so funny

AND CARMEN FACEPALMING

this poor fish market got scammed out of a whole 200 buck fish i hope carmen gave them some money

whats with the flaps in the floor

she WHIPS that poor eel. flytrap could never

LEAVE HIM ALONE

we love carmen pulling out the gun knowing full well the speech wont work

that poor fucking tunafish man

le chevre gets cornobbled

something something el topo on his way to slap some goat cheek something

love how top and bottom dont question why carmen has suddenly given up

i also love el topo taking no credit for slapping him with a fish hes luck uhhh yeah bro its the altitude

the lil whoosh as carmen catches the coin

JULIAS GASP AT THE MINTS

shes like ohhh my god he went into the electrical closet. ohhh fuck

wait a minute if the tube fell out first...how is there still a trail leading from that point. they didnt fall out of the tube so did he just have loose mints in his pocket. or

chief: we are so secretive julia argent: mints

THE ALARM ON ZARI AND JAWLINE'S FACES WHEN JULIA POPS IN IS SO FUNNY THE DISMAY

julia is so starved for compliments that she immediately smiles when the random blue projection who kidnapped chase in a dark closet tells her she's sharp

marquez: someday the world will know your name carmen sandiego marquez, a year later, watching tv: UM I DIDNT MEAN BY STEALING THE CROWN JEWELS HELLO

carmen's 👁️👄👁️ when marquez mentions that shes argentinian is so funny one time as a kid i was talking in my sleep and my mom mentioned the dream that i had been having when i woke up and it scared the shit out of me it was that exact expression

damn... damn these spot the difference games are getting hard

carmen e4: we went our separate ways carmen e9: HOOLY SHIT SHES TRYING TO FUCKING KILL ME

I THOUGHT PLAYER SAID "I HAVE FREAKING NEWS RED"

AW YEAH TRANSITION SENTENCE

GOD SAY GOODBYE OR SOMETHING SHE JUST PUTS THE HOOD UP AND LEAVES

CARMEN "BAD AT SOCIAL INTERACTION" SANDIEGO

like the boat looks 3d too methinks

next episode: team red is permanently blinded as zack drives directly into the sun

okay!! pretty solid episode. one of the classics. not my favorite though it feels a bit like they needed a caper to go with the acme plot and they just threw darts at a map

#carmen sandiego #csweekly #jackie this one goes out to you and all of the breakdowns i made u have in voice chat because i kept having the same ideas as you. im sorry

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Episode 89 Transcript: The Imagery of This Kind of Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

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G: Hello, it's Grey.

C: Hello, it's Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen the show many times...

C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian and hope Dean Winchester dies.

G: Yeah, we are both Asian, and that is super relevant [C laughs], I think, this episode. Well, this week, we will be discussing 5.07, "The Curious Case of Dean Winchester," written by Sera Gamble, story by Sera Gamble and Jenny Klein, directed by Robert Singer.

C: What is Jenny Klein's deal? Is Jenny Klein the cause of this evil? Probably not, 'cause Sera Gamble is the cause of much evil, but, like, did she make it worse?

G: She wrote "Caged Heat," which is a Megstiel episode.

C: That one has a Megstiel kiss, so I think she's fine and she probably has never done anything wrong, probably. That's what I think.

G: I am familiar with all of these episodes! She was in "In With the New, Out with the Old," which I think- It's an episode I remember from Season 7, and then "Torn and Frayed," which I think is the Samandriel episode. She's also part of "Rock and a Hard Place," which is the new- like, where they re-virginize. [both laugh]

C: "Just My Imagination" is well-liked.

G: The Sam episode, yeah. [C: Yeah.] It's so funny that like, when you get to the further on and Supernatural, you'll have, like, one episode in a season that's just the Sam episode. Like, they give him nothing.

C: 'Cause there's not enough Sam episodes in the world, yeah.

G: Well, this is also a Robert Singer episode [C laughs] which is soo true! [laughing] It's soo true! It literally is. Like, Robert Singer, I know who you are, [laughs] and we know each other intimately, and I know him when I see him. Like, there's this one shot where- it's supposed to be funny, so it's fine but like- Dean is climbing up the stairs, and Sam looks at him and then points at the, like, floor level, and then it pans and it zooms to the number 2, and I was like, "Robert Singer is here with us right now." [C laughs] Well, what did you know about this episode before going in?

C: Absolutely nothing. Like, when I encountered pieces of it, it was like, oh, I know this happens in Supernatural somewhere, but I didn't know it was like, this episode. Like, I know about our mutual Ellie being like, the number one Sampatrick warrior, but I didn't know until midway through that Patrick would be here.

G: They kind of slay. [C: They did kind of slay.] Like, Patrick slays as a character.

C: Yeah. He does feel kind of heterosexual, but like, [G: No, he doesn't!] I feel like Sam could change him.

G: He is so gay or European! [C laughs] Like, let's go!

C: Yeah, I think he was just so European that I couldn't see the queerness, but like, I feel like I view him as a guy who's like, heteroflexible, and Sam is his exception or something.

G: Noo. [C: No? No?] That man's bisexual for real. [C: Alright, alright.] I believe it in my heart. I am also- I am number two Sampatrick truther.

C: [laughs] Nice. I'll take number three, then. I think there's very few people. [G laughing]

G: I mean, their dynamic is fun, and Patrick is well, sympathetic, and like, not evil. [C: Yeah.] Even the show acknowledges that.

C: I think if they had encountered each other later on when Sam was further in his witch journey, like, I don't know. Something could've happened.

G: Sam could learn a thing or two, yeah. [C: Yeah.] Sam loves a witch. [both laugh]

C: Yeah. And Irish people.

G: Oh my god, you're right! No, Rowena is Scottish, I think.

C: No, I was talking about Eileen! Do you not care about Eileen?

G: Oh, yeah! Sorry, I was thinking about Rowena, as I am all the time.

C: Yeah, no, you said the witch thing, yeah. Yeah, I think the the Sam/Patrick/Rowena/Eileen and Max Banes polycule will truly conquer the world one day, yeah. [G: Exactly.] Right, I knew that there was going to be a scene, like, in a brothel with Asian sex workers and that Dean would like, lift the blanket of the guy to like, check something [G: Look at his dick.], I guess. Was that what it was?

G: You know, I see people being like, "And Dean is bisexual because he checks this guy out,

which is crazy!

C: Yeah, no, I at first knew that scene just for the the blanket movement thing, and everyone was just being like, "Oh my god, bi Dean Winchester for real," [G: Completely unrelated to bisexuality!] and then at some point, Danica watched this episode, and then she was like, "This episode is so horrible." I did not remember which episode. She just told me about the scene and was like, "This is so horrible." I was like, "Wow. Bi Dean Winchester posting ignores racism once more, I see." [G laughs]

G: Literally! It's always like, bi Dean Winchester posting ignores racism and misogyny. Like, why do we do this? I feel like there's sufficient evidence if you want to look for it.

C: Yeah, you can just find other scenes where Dean Winchester is bisexual and not being misogynistic or racist.

G: Yeah! Yeah! Ah, well.

C: Also, I don't know. I feel like checking someone's dick, like, is not a particularly bi thing to do. It's a very straight man dick measuring contest thing to do.

G: It is, yeah! Like, straight guys love dicks. They do, right? [C laughs] Like, they love to draw it, they love to talk about it, to joke about it.

C: But, you know, whatever. And then obviously, I knew about the little, like, leap in the air that Dean does when he comes down from the apartment building-

G: Ah! He is cute.

C: - 'cause people put that in AMVs all the time. [G: Yeah.] I think those were the bits that I recognized when I came to them, but yeah. I didn't know anything in advance from the title, and I knew very little of the plot.

G: Yeah. I mean, I knew that there was an episode where Sam bluffs so hard and so raw in a poker game, and I knew that there's an episode where Dean gambles away his age. I didn't, for some reason, [laughs] connect the dots that they were the same episode, which is so funny.

C: Poker shows up a good amount in Supernatural.

G: Yeah. I mean, while watching the episode, I was like, "Oh, yeah they're one and the same," but that was like a while watching the episode realization. Prior to it, I just knew that Dean was going to be Benjamin Buttoned or whatever. That's not true. That's not what Benjamin Button is.

C: Yeah, that's not what Benjamin Button is, but they did mention it.

G: Is there a "Then" sequence this episode?

C: I don't think so.

G: Yeah. No "Then" sequence. Nothing prior has ever happened in Supernatural.

C: It's true.

G: Yeah, we start the episode with a woman reading, like, a newspaper or something on her couch. Her husband comes into the house, runs upstairs, doesn't greet her or anything. And she's like, "Haha, not even a hello," whatever whatever. But then we go to the bathroom. The guy is gripping [laughs] the sink, just like in all the movies, and he is looking at the mirror, and in the mirror, he is rapidly aging. Like, there's this one shot where he bends down and he has a full head of hair and he goes below the mirror, then he when he comes back up again, it's bald. Like, his hair- his head is bald, which is pretty fun, if I'm being honest! And yeah, it's just happening. He's just getting old. He stumbles against a glass, like, case and then it smashes, and then the wife, like, hears this, goes upstairs, goes to him, she opens the door of the bathroom, and then she does, like, a horror movie scream. And I was like, it would be so funny if the only reason she's screaming is because her husband is old, but it literally is. [C laughs]

C: I mean, he's also dead.

G: No, I mean, you don't know that. Because the way they say it is "He died of old age." So he could have just been lying down there, and you won't know until you go down and check that he's dead. [C: Sure.] But I guess it's also the aspect of "there's a foreign guy"- not foreign. [C: Yeah, there's a stranger.] There's an outsider in my house.

C: Also, the scream sounds like the word "no," [G: Yeah!] which I think is a very silly thing to scream. [G laughs] Like, were you expecting this? Like, "no" is like, you understand the situation and you don't like it. I don't think she understands the situation yet. But yeah. Yeah. He went to the witch that makes you old. Question. I have no clue how the fuck this age thing works because like, [G: Yeah.] the guy later, in the brothel, he wins his years back so like, he becomes younger. But like, this guy was 25, and, like, he lost, like, what? Like, 70 years or something? Did he want to become a baby?

G: No, he just kept on betting and betting and betting in the hopes that he'll win it back. [C: Okay.] And also, the way it seems is like, you don't go unless the guy tells you that you ought to go, so he can just keep you there on the chair.

C: Like, he was 25 and he was like, "I want to be 15"? Like, what age was he aiming for as a 25-year-old?

G: Oh my god, you're right! You're right! And also, why is he- I just did not connect the dot that he was 25 because he looked 35 or 40.

C: Yeah, but they said at the morgue he was 25, right?

G: Yeah, yeah, he was, yeah.

C: Like, what age was he aiming for? And I think maybe you don't necessarily have to cash them in because the guy who wins 13 years later, I don't see him grow younger-looking, so like, what determines whether your years get cashed in or if you're just adding to your lifespan?

G: I don't know. I think the guy cashed it in, like, it's just- it's not immediate, you know?

C: It's more subtle 'cause it's 13 years, yeah.

G: Like, Bobby takes a while to grow older. I was confused a little bit by the fact that this guy was 25, [laughs] and then he added 25 years, and then he was 50 and died from old age. [C laughs] But no no no, what it was was he just kept adding to the 25. 25 is just the beginning, like, that's the initial.

C: Yeah, and it doesn't have to be, 'cause Sam starts with five.

G: Yeah. Ah, Sam! I love Sam Winchester! [C: Yeah, I love Sam Winchester.] You know the the lore, whatever, that, like, Jared Padalecki is actually really good at poker.

C: No, I was not aware of this.

G: Apparently, he- like, that was something I hear a lot when this episode is in discussion, that like, they gave Sam the poker- like, the "Oh, he won poker with the poker guy!" because he is actually good at poker IRL.

C: Well, Sam Winchester is not good at poker IRL. Jared Padalecki is. Those are separate things.

G: Oh, yeah! This is true. So sorry. So very sorry.

C: Yeah. Don't say that about Sam. [G laughs] But yeah.

G: Never compare Sam Winchester to Jared Padalecki.

C: Yeah, those guys just look similar. That's it.

G: Yeah, unfortunate! So Sam and Dean, in a hospital. They're holding up their CDC badges, and the doctor is like, "What? You expect me to believe you're CDC?" And for a while, they're like, "Oh no!" But then the doctor goes, "It's because you guys are early and the CDC never is."

C: Well, Dean says, "New administration. A change you can believe in." which is like, an Obama thing, I suppose, [lauguhs] which I did think was kind of funny. I don't think Dean votes, though.

G: Oh! CDC is a government body?

C: Yeah. The Center for Disease Control.

G: Yeah, but I thought they were like, different. I thought CDC was kind of like a World Health Organization thing, so they're not of the US.

C: No, it's US-specific.

G: I wonder if we have something like that. Do we have a CDC? We do. We have Center for Disease Control and Prevention. [C: Yeah.] Or do we? [laughs]

C: [laughing] You said you did.

G: No, because I am not sure. Oh, so, yeah, we we have Philippine Center for Disease Prevention and Control, so we have a CDC. Wow! I mean, we ought to, obviously, [C: Yeah, everyone should.] but- I know that. No, I just thought it was like, a branch of the WHO! Of the who.

C: No, yeah, the US's control over the world discourse will do that to ya.

G: Yeah. Well, they go into the morgue. The doctor pulls out the corpse of Mr. Xavier, and he's 80 years old! Fun stuff. So he gave away 60 years? 55? Damn. Why? I mean, you're right. It's because- I mean, I'm right! It's because he just kept on betting. But, kind of crazy. Like, at some point, just give up. Like, just accept being a 40 or 50-year-old man.

C: Also, if you won all 55, he would be negative 30 years old. [laughs] Like, I don't think he wants that. He would also be dead!

G: He was just in it for the game. He was like, "I want the thrill." Yeah. Also, like, 80-year-old? I don't think you die of old age at 80 year old. At 80 years.

C: See, I don't know what- is it like, what age you were meant to die, and like, it zooms you forward, and then if it's past that, you die.

G: Well, I feel like 80 years old is not death of old age age. That's just old age age.

C: Yeah, I agree.

G: But whatever. He was born in 1984 he's 25, as you said, and the doctor ran the DNA twice, so it is him.

C: The US life expectancy in 2009 was 78.34, I think.

G: For white men?

C: Just for people.

G: In general.

C: Yeah, so you could die of old age.

G: What is it for white men? I'm sure those are different. [C: Yeah, that's true.] It could be smaller for them.

C: It is lower for men, typically.

G: Yeah, because women live longer.

C: Oh, it was 76.2. Wait, is that US?

G: So he may have died of old age.

C: Yeah, he could have, but also, like, life expectancy also involves dying of things that aren't old age, so.

G: No, yeah how is life expectancy- Is life expectancy the same as average life, like, length?

C: Average lifespan? I think.

G: Because it could just be that less children are dying, if that's the case.

C: Yeah, life expectancy is just average age of death. He could have died of old age indeed.

G: Yeah. Bobby apparently gave them this case, which is interesting that he did lead them there already, but he did. And he's asking if there's anyone else missing in town, etc etc. And he tells Sam and Dean to check it out. And as they're about to hang up, Dean asks, like, "Okay, how are you doing, Bobby?" Dean was like, "Yeah, like, just in general, how are you doing?" And Bobby doesn't like this. He goes, "Oh, you mean my legs. Well I'm weeping in my Haagen-Daaz. Idjit." And then he hangs up. And, I mean, this is like, Bobby is a bit frustrated with everything this episode, so this is a running thing this entire time. He's pissed at Dean, specifically. It is fasc- it is so funny to me because at the end of this episode, Dean and Bobby has a heart-to-heart-

C: And Sam is off getting a gonorrhea shot. [laughs]

G: - and the show makes the point of having Sam leave. [laughing] It is hilarious to me! That's literally their coworker. Like, when Dean was like, "Bobby, we're family"-

C: Okay, Sam says he's off to get a gonorrhea shot, but I think he's spreading an STI to Patrick first [G laughs] through the typical method.

G: Bruh. Well.

C: Sam was too busy having gay sex to give the "don't kill yourself" conversation to Bobby.

G: "Noo, don't kill yourself, Bobby!"

C: Yeah. Oh, and also, I think that after the phone call ends, the shot lingers on Bobby for a second alone in his house, and he just looks kind of dejected. [G: Yeah.] So yeah, it's a precursor to like, he's being all sarcastic and stoic and things, but he's going through it.

G: Yeah. Do we know how many weeks or or maybe months it's been since- 'cause this was in November.

C: Okay, Sam and Dean departed a week- like, for a week. They were apart for a week. They looked for the Colt for three weeks-

G: No, it will show you. This is in November. When was 5.01? So "Lucifer Rising" was in May.

C: "Sympathy for the Devil" was in September, though. Like, we can't do it one-to-one because of like, hiatuses and things.

G: No no no, like, November! The timeline- in the timeline. Not the showing. [C: Oh.] 'Cause this was aired in October, but in the timeline, it's November. So this was in November, and Bobby gets stabbed around May, perhaps June. So it's been a while. It's been a while!

C: Wait, so it's been six months?

G: Yeah, I suppose. And they're waiting for the Apocalypse to start, still.

C: Wait, how has it been six months if he got stabbed on day one of the- of the Apocalypse starting but not starting, and then Sam and Dean were apart for a week, and then were looking for the Colt for three weeks, and then had like, two cases since then. Like, that doesn't that make six months.

G: "Free to Be You and Me" is apparently in August.

C: How long were they apart? 'Cause it was like a week later sort of situation. Are we saying that the- that between 5.01 and 5.02, there was like, 2 months?

G: How is that possible?

C: Okay, 5.02 is in August, but then 5.03 was only a week later, and then they come back together, like, immediately because Sam calls right after the Lucifer dream and then Dean calls back, like, basically the next day after the Zachariah shit.

G: Yeah. And then three weeks. [C: Three weeks until 5.05.] And then I suppose we don't know how long last episode is. [C: Until 5.06.] Yes. Could have been a while. And then we also don't know how long between that and this. So there's that. [C: Okay.] They really will be spending an amount of time in Supernatural that we don't see. So he could have been, like, "Cas, we've talked about this" at any other time than the crane shot. 'Cause, I mean, I'm sure they have talked to Cas in between- in those two months-

C: In between 5.01 and 5.02?

G: No, like, 5.02 and 5.03, because we don't know how- What the fuck is this timeline?

C: No, it's not! It's not! It's not, though, because-

G: Bobby was still in the hospital!

C: 5.03, it was only a week- yeah, it was only a week because they said- Like, they had a one week later thing, and then Sam immediately called Dean, and, like, that happened right before.

G: What is happening?? It seems to me immediate that 5- I mean, I suppose Bobby's recovery would have been quite long in the hospital.

C: Yeah, I guess he would have been in the hospital for a few weeks. Okay, so it has to be a big gap between 5.01 and 5.02? No! No, because- [laughs] no, it doesn't make any sense! None if it makes any sense.

G: This is all a stupid conversation. Whatever. Whatever. Supernatural is so- the timeline is not good enough for me.

C: Sam and Dean are interviewing the wife of one of the missing persons in the city or town. They see a photo of him with a tattoo on his arm. They also learn that he always works a bit late on Tuesdays. So Dean's like, "That's suspicious." So he searches the house and looks inside the pockets of the husband, Cliff's, coat. He sees a receipt for Madame Liu's Golden Palace for $250, and he immediately clocks that this is a brothel. I think I would just think that it's like, a restaurant or a spa or something. I don't know what it is about the name besides Dean Winchester's automatic association-

G: I mean, it's pretty much- I would assume that it's because of the date. And it's like, working late, well he's not. He's somewhere.

C: Yeah, yeah. I guess so. I don't know. I guess when I assume affairs, I assume people are going to expensive restaurants or something. But yeah, I guess it could also be this.

G: I mean, it doesn't seem to be an affair thing. More of just sex work- buying sex work thing.

C: Yeah, yeah, but I guess when I hear "working late," I assume affairs, usually. [G: Yeah.] And I guess, I don't know. I'm like, "Maybe they just have a regular date on Tuesdays."

He Sam go to Madame Liu's Golden Palace.

G: I have a question. [C: Yes.] What is the rate of having an Asian district in the United States for like, towns? Because this doesn't seem like a particularly big town. Or is it? I'm not sure.

C: They said it was a big town because earlier, on the phone with Bobby, they say, "There's like, two missing people but that's normal for a place this size" or with this population.

G: Well, we don't know what the population. Just says couple missing persons, usual for a town this size.

C: Yeah, but that implies that the town is large enough. I don't know what state-

G: What's the difference between a town and a fucking city? Like, the rurality?

C: It's like, a population thing.

G: Well, yeah, I assume.

C: It's like- cities need to have at least 100,000? Or no, what? No.

G: So this is a town, but it's not a small town. It's not a city either.

C: I think different censuses and things have different definitions, 'cause like, this other thing says, like, it has to be under 2,000 to be a town. That can't be- Whatever. I don't know. Sometimes they just say "town."

G: I was just wondering, like, because this it is an Asian district, or whatever it is the place that they're in. Because later, when they're walking outside of the motel it has a lot of signs that are like, in Chinese or whatever script- the Asian scripts that sign is written in. So I was like, what is the commonality of that in the United States? I'm not sure.

C: I mean, there's some cities with well-known Chinatowns.

G: Of course there is, but like, that's why I was asking is this a small town or not. Because I'm assuming if it's a big town, there really would be. Or a big city, there really would be. But what is the-

C: We don't even know what state this is in, so it's hard to say. Oh. What the fuck?

G: It's in Chicago, Illinois.

C: Yeah, okay how do the Wiki people get where an episode takes place when it doesn't say.

G: Well, I don't know.

C: They called Chicago a town? [both laugh] They're crazy.

G: Wait, so we're in Chicago, Illinois? [laughs]

C: If we're in Chicago, yeah, I believe that there's an Asian district there. [G laughs] If we're in Chicago, yeah.

G: Well, wonderful.

C: Why did they say town?? Okay. Wait, but also, where do where did they say it's Chicago at any point in the episode?

G: Well, let's ctrl+F "Chicago."

C: It's nowhere in the transcript.

G: Maybe it's in, like, the script script.

C: Maybe. I think it's- yeah, no questions about an Asian district in Chicago [laughs] given the size of Chicago.

C: They're at Madam Liu's, and they walk in. I mean, it's a brothel. What are the decorations like? It's like, red and pink [G: Red, yeah.] are the colors, and Dean's like, "Well I hope that my dick can get hard when I'm this age," and Sam says, "You will die before you can test whether or not your dick can get so hard when you are old." And then they stop outside of room 44, which, like, they hate this client so much. Like, they want this client to die. [G, laughing: Yeah.] They put him in room 44? Okay, first off, I'm surprised they would make a room 44. Like, I feel like if I was a sex worker here, I would not step foot in there. I'd be like, "What with the rates of violence against sex workers I'm not going inside the fucking death room. Who decided that this was a number?" But like, to put a client in here, they hate his ass. His "blah blah blah, the second girl was for free" that is so not true. They probably just charged you double and said that the second girl was for free to like, get you to pay up, bro. [laughs] They want you to die. They put you in room 44. But yeah, I don't- everyone knows that four is like, an unlucky number in China 'cause it sounds like death? [G: Yeah.] Yeah, okay. I'm still shocked that they would make a room 44. I know that it's just the- I think it was just Sera Gamble being like, "I have a very surface level understanding of Chinese culture, and in an episode where people die, I think that it would be fun to put an unlucky number there." but I feel like if you think about it from, like, the standpoint of people running this business, they would not make a room 44. But yeah, anyway. [laughs] I won't get stuck on this 'cause there's more things coming up.

G: There's hospitals here in the Philippines that do not have a fourth floor, you know? Like, I feel like it's a big deal.

C: Yeah. And yeah, I think that in an industry where there's a high rate of violence against the employees, like, you would not put a room 44. You're not risking that shit.

They break in. There is a guy, and he is young, and he is having sex with two women, and they are both Asian.

G: Yeah, there's like, a part where, like, only one girl is above the sheet, and then the other woman comes out, and Dean is like, "Ooh." Ah! [C: Yeah.] Horrible. And they're both Asian! [laughs] Both Asian!

C: [laughs] Yeah. And they're both Asian. Ugh. [G laughing]

G: I mean, I don't know how we're going to talk about this. We have said everything that needs to be said.

C: Yeah, we said it already in "Tall Tales," I think.

G: Yeah, one of our most watched- one of our most listened to episodes, that one, I think. [C: Yeah.] If you only listen to us because we're both Asian, that is hilarious to me. [both laugh] So like, yeah, okay.

C: Yeah. Yeah. We really do not provide that much- we did a little bit of research for one episode and then we went back to like, doing nothing forever. [both laugh] Yeah. But yeah. I don't know. There isn't much to say that hasn't already been said. Like, he did come to this place specifically because he wanted to sleep with Asian women, and he is a white man and his wife is a white woman, and yeah. I don't know. I wonder what's going on there psychologically. Nothing good. [laughs]

G: Yeah, and Dean is very amused by all this 'cause he also has an Asian fetish!

C: Yep. Yep.

G: I'm- Ugh. Yeah. Well. But yeah, there's like, a zoom-in on the guy's tattoo, which is, I was like, "Robert Singer, I see you."

C: Yeah. So Sam notices this and realizes, "Oh this is like, the guy that we're looking for, even though he's young" and he proves that it's the guy by pulling his ID out of his wallet.

G: "Do you know Mr. Whitlow? Oh, you don't? That's strange, [overlapping] because you're carrying his wallet!"

C: That was Sam practicing his poker skills. That was him thespianing it up.

G: We need to put Sam in the theater! Who would Sam play? Who would Sam play?

C: I don't know. I mean, we already know that he was tree number two in Our Town.

G: He literally should play Don John! We've said this before! [laughs]

C: Oh! I mean, yes. [G: Of course.] But, well, Sam is Don John in Super Ado About Natural. I don't know if him being Don John means he would be best at playing Don John, you know what I mean? [G: This is true.] I feel like he needs to play a role that he's like, having fun in. I feel like if it hits too close to home, he might not be able to get into it.

G: Well, what role would he have fun in?

C: Tree number two in Our Town, [laughs] but-

G: You know, I think he could play Curly. Why not? [C: Huh.] [laughing] I have a very limited repertoire of like, stage stuff that I know.

C: Can Sam sing?

G: Yeah, why not? I think people would be like, "It's so sweet that they're letting him sing on stage [both laughing] even though he's bad at it!"

C: I think- Okay. I think Sam could play Curly in just like, an absolutely ass production of Oklahoma! Yeah, I see it.

G: You know that that scene in When Harry Met Sally where they sing and Harry does that little dance?

C: [laughs] Sam should do it?

G: I think Sam should 100% do it. Like, his practice is singing along to the When Harry Met Sally version of "Surrey with the Fringe on Top."

C: Yeah, so Dean goes over to the bed and he pulls off the the sheets to look at the guy's dick but also to check for a birthmark that his wife said was somewhere, probably on his dick. Cliff asks the two women who were in there with him, "Could you give us some privacy?" and then there's a shot over at the two of them in a mirror, and then Dean winks at them, and I think he should die, probably, is what I think about that.

Also, just in case, like, people haven't listened to the "Tall Tales" episode or, like, just don't remember- 'cause I feel like we keep referring you back there, but like, not everyone's going to do that. I guess- I feel like sometimes, us being very vague about what we hate about scenes [G: Yeah.] where like, an Asian woman is portrayed in sexual light or where like, Dean is attracted to an Asian woman just makes it seem like, we're against people being attracted to Asian individuals or like, against Asian women doing sex work, and, like, that's not the case. I think what it comes down to. I think- Well, first, like, attraction to an Asian individual and like, an Asian fetish are different things, and like, Dean specifically- It's pretty clear that he has an Asian fetish, what with the Busty Asian Beauties subscription and everything. And the issues with Asian fetishes is just that I feel like it goes beyond being attracted to specific features. It's also like-

G: The idea, yeah.

C: - There's an idea of what an Asian woman is in your mind that's built off of, like, the US's contact with Asia which has been very, like, colonial, very war-based.

G: Yeah, it's about the perspective of the exotic, which is what a lot of Asian fetishization is based on. The othering.

C: Yeah like, there's an attraction to- yeah, to othering, to, like, the idea that they wouldn't be very good at English, or like, have timid personalities or things are like, a big part of it. Like, the desire for power over someone that you think comes from, like, them being Asian. And then, I think specifically with Asian women and sex work, like, I feel like it really just comes back to the Page Act for me where, you know, it was like the first law in the US that was like, barring immigration based off of race, and it was specifically to prevent Chinese women from entering the US because a lot of the Chinese women entering the US were, like, coming to do sex work, but, like, also, like, they did not care about that for any other nationality. It was the idea that Chinese women were uniquely immoral, uniquely dishonest, and like, having sex with a Chinese woman would, like, give you diseases [laughs] more than engaging in sex work with any other group of women. And, like, how the idea of Asian women and sex work has just been like, further bolstered by the Korean War and the Vietnam War. And it's just like, when you portray in, like, a TV show, an Asian woman doing sex work, there is that history that you have to contend with. And, like, you have to- in Supernatural, where very few Asian women are characters, very few have speaking roles, very few are portrayed as people, the prevalence of Asian women being sexualized and being associated with sex work is like, a problem. [G: Yeah.] And like, if these women had lines and personalities, like, I think I would let this episode individually pass, mostly. Also if Dean didn't do that fucking wink. But like, it would still be a problem for Supernatural as a whole. But like, because Supernatural as a whole does this, and because the women here don't have any lines, are just here to be naked briefly and for Dean to find hot briefly, like, it's bad for the episode and it's bad for the show. So I guess that that is our "ugh." That is where our "ugh"-ing comes from.

G: Yeah. So and yeah, you know how in 5.04 we were talking about how the ratio of sexualized Asian women in the show and how [C: Yeah.], I don't know, like, a lot of times when they have an Asian woman in the show, it always [C: Is for Dean to find hot.] either falls under a specific stereotype or for Dean to be attracted to in a specifically-because-she's-Asian way. And with Risa, actually, that's not particularly the case. [C: Yeah, that's not part of it, right.] But here, for example, like, it's so obviously the case. [C: Yeah. We're at Madame Liu's, yeah.] And also, because me and Crystal were talking about this episode, like, just by ourselves, prior, we were talking about Lia, and we were talking about how there was an implication of like, a sugar daddy situation with her first scene in the show. But the show went out of their way to portray her as separate from that, you know? And she's a white woman.

C: Yeah, when she shows up again, she's like, "Oh, there's more to me than meets the eye" or whatever [G: Yeah.], and she has an emotional arc.

G: And like, in this episode, she is the one who is given that liberty. I mean, obviously, it's a different situation, but it's the same issue I have with that woman from El Salvador who spoke Spanish in 5.05 where I was like, this is fine if it wasn't so obviously for a punchline. If they have literally any other person in the show who speaks, like, broken English with a Spanish accent or whatever for literally any other role or idea, and it's just part of the show that you have characters who are like this all the time- But because they made it intentionally that it was for this intention and it was, in a way, to make fun of her accent, that makes it offensive. It's about the general lack of diverse set of characters in the show, and then when they do have someone, it's specifically to point at that difference. That's what's frustrating. And yeah, obviously, this one has different layers because Dean is known to have an Asian fetish, but- [C: Sure is.] [laughs] I can't believe Dean is just known to have an Asian fetish! [C laughs] Like, I can just say that, and I'm completely right! Like, that's so- well, whatever.

C: It's horrible. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the way Dean is like, the trashy but lovable everyman character, and it's like, "You know, like, every red-blooded American man just has an Asian fetish" [G: Yeah.] seems to be what they're trying to say with this character. And it's like-

G: I hope not!

C: "Well, I hope that's not true." Ugh. Yeah, so the women leave after Cliff hands money to only one of them, and that's the last we see of them. He says, like, "Please don't tell my wife. She thinks I'm dead, and I just want that to continue." He was just going to stay here? Or I guess he would have left eventually. Whatever. Whatever. Cliff goes like, "Okay, like, the way that this happened, it was a game." [laughs] And Sam says, "Like Xbox?"

G: Just like me for real.

C: [laughs] I love him! I love him. He's so fucking funny.

G: He's like, "Just like Yakuza?" [laughs]

C: Literally. [laughs] Just like Yakuza. And Cliff goes, "What's Xbox?" And then he explains that it was a poker game where, instead of cash, you play for years. What he won was 25 years of his life. There was a guy who was dealing the chips, and he chanted something over them, and then it worked. He's young again. He says that, you know, his health issues have cleared up, and "one of those ladies was here for free!" which implies that he was so hot that one of the employees here just wanted to sleep with him, just of her own volition. [G: Which does happen.] Which, I mean, it's not impossible that's such a thing would happen, but yeah, it is- Yeah, I don't know. I think there is a specific pride and fantasy involved in, like, being so attractive or charming or whatever that, like, it becomes "real" with a sex worker, and I feel like sometimes, that kind of a fantasy can cause one to overstep boundaries in a situation where one is purchasing services, and, I don't know. It's kind of annoying to see it in this episode. The description of the guy who did this, his name is Patrick, he's about 35, he has brown hair and an Irish accent, which is wonderful! [laughs] It was great to hear it this episode.

G: Yeah. He has black hair, and I think it looks beautiful. I think I've never thought of Sam as having brown hair before, but like, put him beside Patrick, and it was like, Sam does have brown hair, and Patrick has dark brown hair. It's pretty nice!

C: Slay. So he moves around from bar to bar, and you don't find him, he finds you. They head out, [G: And Dean turns around.] but Dean lingers in the doorway. He stays there- the shot stays on him for so long, and I'm like, "What horrible thing is about to happen now?" [G laughs] And the horrible thing that happens is that after Sam has headed out- because Dean's like, ashamed to say this in front of him, I think, is he turns around, he tells Cliff, "Oh, and uh, stay classy." And it's like a moment of like, #solidarity [laughs] between Asian fetishists, I believe. And that is terrible. [laughs] So yeah. That's that scene.

G: We go to Sam and Dean. Dean's on the phone with Bobby, and he's relaying, you know, what happened to Bobby, and Bobby is like, "Oh yeah, there's lore regarding this, and like, you know, traveling card player. If you play him and you win, you get years back. And most folks lose." And like, it is fascinating to me that this is just one guy. Like, he's just been around so long. And I also do wonder like, why is he here in, apparently, Chicago, Illinois? I mean, when I first formulated that that question in my head, I was like, [C: In this random town.] "in this small town Americana," and then now it's like, "Well, he was in Chicago, Illinois, so I guess that's fine. Like, that is a big city."

C: Yeah, he listened to the Sufjan Stevens song, and he was like, "I gotta see this."

G: Exactly. Just like me. I don't know. Maybe one day, I'll go to Illinois [laughs] to be like, "Just like Sufjan Stevens!" [C: Exactly.] Yeah, maybe I'll go to Kansas too to be like, "Just like Dean Winchester," but that's super irrelevant. Bobby is asking, "Are they going to go to visit a bar?" Dean's like, "Yeah, we're going to split up." And Bobby's like, "Okay," and he hangs up, but before we leave Bobby, he gets keys [C: His car keys.] and he starts going. So yeah, Bobby is going to the fucking card player.

G: So Dean is in a bar. Him and Sam has split up. And Dean, apparently, has a lead, and so he starts asking the bartender about where Patrick is. And at first, the bartender wouldn't tell him, but eventually, he slides a $100 bill, and-

C: 100! [G: Yeah.] That wasn't, like, fake- that wasn't a fake $100. What? He actually gave him $100 cash?

G: Yeah, yeah.

C: Crazy. Inflation is wild! They were giving $20 bills to, like, sneak into morgues before this.

G: Yeah! And Sam scolded him for that, right? Like, he gave $40 and Sam was like, "What the fuck is wrong with you?" [both laugh] No, and the way- the thing Dean does, too, it's like, "Oh, my friend Ben told me," and the guy's like, "I don't know any Ben," and then he slides Benjamin- what the fuck- what the fuck is his first name? [C: Benjamin Franklin.] Yeah, Benjamin Franklin. He slides Benjamin Franklin, the $100 bill. [laughs] It's so corny, but it's super fun. He goes to, I don't know, behind the bar. And also, there's this weird scene where he's already walking, and then there's a voiceover of the bartender going, "Round back. Take the elevator down." [laughs] And, like, you know they added it because they forgot. Like, they were like, "That's so weird!" But like, it's not weird! Just don't put the voiceover!

C: Yeah, like, Dean just was told instructions and he's going. That makes sense to me.

G: And like, when they showed this, I was like, [laughs] "Crystal's gonna going to be so pissed about this fucking stupidass voiceover." As he's walking, Bobby is there, and Dean is shocked that Bobby is here. So Bobby was in Sioux Falls. We're back to Google Maps. Sioux Falls to Chicago. [C laughs] [C: Drive time.] It's all flights. All of them are flights. It's an 8 hour 40 minute drive.

C: Wait. [laughs] How did he get here?

G: [laughs] I have no idea. So it was it morning, and now it's evening?

C: He was definitely in his house.

G: He was definitely in Sioux Falls.

C: We saw him in his house. It's not like he was in Chicago earlier when he discovered the case. I mean, it is night now, but like, it wasn't- Was it that bright earlier today?

G: I mean, it could have been day.

C: I mean, bars are open late. It could be like, past midnight or whatever.

G: This is true, this is true. So it could be very late right now and very early a while ago. [C: Yeah, I believe it.] But yeah, Bobby bet on his years, and he lost, so now he is- [C laughs] There's this one scene where Bobby goes, "I lost!" and then we, like, do zoom-ins, I think, and we see, like, more crow's feet appear on Bobby's face. How old is Bobby right now?

C: Supposed to be? I don't know. I guess I should look up Jim Beaver's-

G: Well, not Jim Beaver. Bobby Singer! He was born in 1950.

C: Well, so was Jim Beaver. [G: Yeah.] Okay, so he's like, 59 now.

G: That's not- is that true?

C: 2009 minus 1950?

G: No no no, I know, but like, is it realistic?

C: I mean, it's Jim Beaver's age. What-?

G: [laughing] You're right, you're right.

C: Jim Beaver was born in the same year, [laughing] so, like, yeah, that is what a 59-year-old looks like. That's how old Jim Beaver was there.

G: [laughing] Because that's literally a 59-year-old. That's crazy. Well, I'm sorry for disrespecting you, Jim Beaver.

C: Okay, this injury happened less than a year ago. [G: Yeah.] Couldn't he have just, like, tried to win one year? Wouldn't that have done it? How-

G: Maybe, again, he kept on trying. Kept on-

C: Okay, sure, alright. That works, I guess. I don't know how poker goes at all, so this makes sense to me, I suppose.

G: Well, you can't have just one year because both of you are going to bet, so it's at least two years.

C: Oh, so both of you put a chip in? Okay.

G: Yeah. I think. I also know nothing about poker.

C: Okay, so like, he could have put, like, one chip in, and Patrick could have put like, 24? I have no idea what poker is or involves. Apparently, chips and cards.

G: No, it could be like, he put in 10 and then the other guy put in 15. So it's not 24-1.

C: He doesn't overdo it on what he puts in because he doesn't want to kill people.

G: This is true. Or is it? Well, maybe he just kept on playing and playing.

C: [laughs] He wanted to kill Dean.

G: He wanted to kill that guy.

C: I mean, no. Dean was the one who decided to play for 50. [G: Yeah.] That wasn't Patrick's urging.

G: Didn't Patrick warn too, like, "Don't do that."? [C: Yeah.] Or that was Sam. He was telling Sam, "That's a suicide mission." [C: Mm-hm.] Agh. Are they in wuv? [laughs]

C: They're in wuv. I think if Sam and Dean hadn't, like, had their talk in 5.05, and, like, Sam was still feeling, like, trodden upon in their partnership, he could have considered going with Patrick and learning a thing or two. I believe in this alternate universe.

G: I am less inclined to believe. [C: No?] But I see the vision.

C: Hm. I think it's like, I think Sam would deliberately lose a lot. I think- Okay, yeah, you're right. He's probably not in a place where he trusts his judgment enough to think that he could, like, mete out justice by taking years from people who won't miss them and giving them to people who would, but-

G: Not that at all. I just think Sam has a lot of prejudice against supernatural beings.

C: - witches at this point? [G: Yeah.] That's true. He has his "You know, for a witch, you're really nice" [laughs] line, so.

G: "You're really niceys!" Yeah.

C: Well, maybe if they'd had sex. [G: Exactly.] Yeah, oh, also, Dean tells Bobby, "Are you kidding me? You played some- some he-witch?" And this is a term that Dean will use a lot during this episode. [G: Yeah!] And, I don't know. Sera Gamble, your mind fascinates me. [laughs] Like, you can just say witch!

G: Yeah, a witch, or, I don't know. A wizard. [C: A warlock?] A warlock, exactly. Also, Bobby has his fair share of gendered comments [C laughs] that are specific misogyny-

C: Misogyny or weird misogyny-transphobia combos. [laughs] Yeah. [G: Yeah.]

G: Well, yeah, so we go to a bar, and yeah, Patrick is there. He's talking to two people. One, like, younger lady and an older man. And he's like, doing like, what Sam says is "armchair psychology" later. Every time I hear the word "armchair psychology" now, I think about that post that's like, "Armchair psychology is such a funny term because that's really where most psychology happens." [laughs] Like, it really is in the armchair, so, I don't know, guys. [C: True.] Yeah, he's doing, like, an analysis of character, blah blah blah. But Dean just like, holds onto him and goes, "Hey, excuse me for a second. Can I borrow you?" And Dean, like, moves his jacket to show his gun, and Patrick sees this and just goes, "Oh! Yeah, of course! Great, good to see you!"

C: He really is gun boy.

G: Yeah. Immediately, when he does that, I'm like, "I love this guy." I love Patrick. I think he's pretty great.

C: Yeah, he's pretty fun. Yeah, I feel like being shown a gun by, like, Dean Winchester really brings out the best in people. Like Chuck in "Monster at the End of This Book." He's also very fun when Dean flashes a gun at him.

G: They go out. They are in the poker table now, and Patrick is like, "Oh, don't worry that you cut me off. I still stole a watch from that guy." And he goes, "Look, I don't know what it is you think I did to your wife or girlfriend, mother or sister [C laughs], but I just want you to know, my feelings were real!" So like, what's the implication here? That he was sleeping around? [C: Yeah.] So true.

C: I mean, I think this is this is where the heteroflexible comes from, I think. [G: Ugh!] He does act pretty straight here, I fear.

G: No, I think it's just he assumes that if it's a guy, it's like, "The boyfriend won't be here. Every single gay guy is non-monogamous." [both laugh] That's not true! [C: That's not true.] That's his perspective, not mine! [C laughs] That's his perspective, not mine! [G laughs]

C: God. No, the things people will say. Like, in the latest Doctor Who episode, like-

G: [laughing] Did they say every gay man is non-monogamous?

C: The Doctor tells- No, like, he tells a cop, like, "Oh, like, your girlfriend's gonna say yes. Like, I can see the ring in your pocket. And I'm assuming that it's a girlfriend and not a boyfriend because 90% of men wouldn't want a diamond for an engagement ring," [laughs] and it's like, [laughing] what is- what are you saying? What is this? [G laughs] Like, I don't know. It's very fun when you decide to be inclusive by being very confusing and odd.

G: [laughs] Well, it's what I'm doing right now, exactly. Just like- I'm just like the Doctor for real. Dean raises his eyebrow at this comment, but he goes, "Well, that ain't my problem, man-witch." [C: Man-witch.] He's really obsessed with this turn of phrase. He-witch, man-witch.

C: Yeah, I don't know. He just feels- I feel like he just feels like something in his world is being challenged by a man being a witch. [G: Yeah.] Like, leave the guy alone, bro!

G: This is queercoding. [laughs] [C: Honestly.] Patrick is being queercoded right now.

C: Yeah, I mean it is the- Yeah, like, you think that Patrick is trans in some direction, or [G: No.] Dean's being like, "Bit gay that you're a man and a witch."

G: No, yeah, he's going, "Are you gay or a witch?" [laughs]

C: Well, 'cause it's established in "Malleus Maleficarum" that Dean like, hates witches more than he hates any other supernatural being, and we don't know why, exactly.

G: Yeah, and he is misogynistic. So having a witch not be a woman, it's like- it's breaking the glass ceiling, I suppose.

C: Yeah, he has to switch from like, "bitch" to "son of a bitch," and it's a big inconvenience for him. It's that kind of situation.

G: No, I do think there is an- I mean, Dean is a fucked up guy. I think there is an aspect of misogyny in his being a witch-hater specifically. [C: Yes.] Like, the way he's like, "Oh, these bitches."--because that is how he thinks of witches--is primarily, I think, a misogyny thing. [C: Yeah.] And so, yeah.

C: I think what he says in "Malleus Maleficarum" is he doesn't like, how, like, messy their spells are, like, with dead rabbits and shit. But like, I don't think that's all of it, bro. [G: Yeah.] Also, like, many monsters that you deal with leave a lot of gore in their wake, so.

G: Yeah. Well, yeah. Dean says that "No, it's my friend. He lost years, and you have to give them back." This whole time, by the way, Dean is being gun boy [C laughs] by having a gun below the table where they're talking. And, like, when he says, "Well unlose him," he cocks the gun so that it makes the cocking sound. [C laughs] [C: Yeah.] And Patrick is like, "Well, you can shoot me if you like. I could use a little tickle."

C: [laughing] Yeah, you're right. He's bisexual. I take it back. [G laughs] [G: Literally.] He wants Dean to shoot his load into him!

G: Noo! [C: I-] You know, I am so fickle about the fucking, like, body fluids thing.

C: You really don't like talking about the ejaculation part of sex?

G: Yeah. [laughing] Yeah, exactly.

C: That's why you couldn't stand the exhaust pipes talk either.

G: Exactly! It's fine if he was fucking the exhaust pipe, he just can't come in it! [C laughs] Yeah! Basically, Patrick just goes, like, "Well, if you really want the years back, play me." And then Dean was like, "Okay, let's do it." And Bobby is also here now, and [laughs] yeah. Bobby is like, "Dean, you can't do it!" But Dean, who is pissed at Bobby, still, goes like, "I can do what I want. It's my years."

C: Yeah, which is what Bobby said earlier.

G: Yeah. But here, we find out that the buy-in is 25 years, so that's the initial number of chips, and then yeah, Dean goes, "Make it 50." And Patrick goes, "I like the cut of your jib." Well, you're about to like Sam's cut of his jib more. [C laughs] [C: Yeah.] He does a little spell on the chips, and then, yeah, they go, whoosh-whoosh-whoosh, and [C: Real.] yeah, it's years now. And basically, Dean gives away the 25. He cashes out the 25. I have no idea how poker works, so I could be misusing every single turn of phrase right now.

C: Yeah, me neither. Can't help you.

G: So Bobby gets magicked back to being his usual age of 59 years old, so the the 25 years is on him now. And so he has to play the other 25 to get him back to his normal age, and so they play. And, well, guess what? Dean loses. [C: Hell yeah.] Hell yeah! We don't actually see it. We don't- like, the only poker game we actually see in full, pretty much, is Sam's. Like, Sam is the only one we see actually play.

C: Sam was the only one who got to finish. So.

G: Boo!

C: Ha.

G: Sam Winchester enters the motel, and in there, he sees Dean Winchester, who is 50 years older. [laughs] And in this podcast, you are now listening to me and Crystal, who are both respectively two weeks older. I don't know why I said "respectively." We are both two weeks older. [C laughs] [C: Yeah.] It's been two weeks since the last part of this podcast!

C: Since our last recording. Like, we did half of it, and then things kept coming up in the middle of our recordings, [G: Exactly.] so yeah, it's been two weeks. I don't remember a single thing about this episode. I think we were mad about it, like, two weeks ago, so [G: Perhaps so.] I guess I should recreate that emotion by remembering that Dean Winchester exists. I haven't had to look at Dean Winchester's face for two weeks because we haven't watched any new episodes in the time in between either, and it's been like, a truly wonderful time. [G laughs] But anyway. [laughs]

G: I've been thinking a lot about Season 11 is what I've been doing, so-

C: Didn't you watch 11.01 on your birthday?

G: No! Because- [C: No?] By the way, my birthday was yesterday, and instead of watching 11.01 like I planned on doing on my birthday, because I'm a loser-

C: Why? What happens in 11.01?

G: I instead went out and [laughs] had a wonderful time with my family and friends, so. [C: Boo!] [C laughing] That was horrible. I should not have done that. [C: Loser behavior.] I should have instead sat down in my room and watched Season 11 by myself.

C: Yeah, that should always be your first priority. What even happens in Season 11? Amara?

G: Yeah, Amara, and, like, Casifer. And "Baby" happens in Season 11.

C: Why did you want to watch Season 11? On your birthday?

G: Because I have many feelings about that season. No, I was just like- It wasn't like I planned it on my birthday. [laughs] I was just like, [C laughs] "Ah, I'm gonna watch Season 11 tomorrow. Oh my god, it's also my birthday!" So. It's a wonderful season. Or is it? I think it made me so miserable when I watch it, which is why I want to watch it again. [C: Okay, great.] Happy birthday! [laughs]

C: Yeah, so Dean's old, and he's not being played by Jensen Ackles in makeup or Jensen Ackles in CGI. He's being played by a completely different person who I don't know the name of.

G: Yeah, do you think he's well-acted here? Who do you think? What are your opinions? What are your thoughts? Tell us about it.

C: Mm... I couldn't tell how much of my "That's not Dean" vibes are like, because of the acting or just because he, like, doesn't look like older Dean. It's hard for me to tell.

G: I think he does look like older Dean. [C: Really?] Yeah, but mostly because you have to suspend your disbelief with old people. Old people look nothing like how you think they look when they were younger, [C: Fair.] and so I would presume young people look nothing like you think they would when they look older, so.

C: Okay, sure, that makes sense to me. [G: Or does it?] I think the acting- he's just- I feel like he says things slower.

G: I think- Here's the thing. [C: Yeah.] Having Dean be an old man, specifically, like, our conception of like, a dirty old man with the flirting with the maid later and everything, like, reveals so much of what makes Dean Winchester, like= What are the things that make him endearing and annoying? Like, if you list them down, you would realize through this episode that a lot of the reason why- well, I and many people think that he's endearing is because he's an attractive young man, and that's probably literally it. [laughs]

C: Wait, what do you find endearing about him?

G: No no no, I mean, like, a lot of the things that Dean does are annoying [C: Yes.], but it is less biting to see because he's just- he's charismatic and young.

C: Really? I think he was less annoying when he was old.

G: No, I mean, just his actions if you transpose them to someone who is less desirable, society-wise, would make you go, "Oh, I see why people don't like this guy." [C: Okay. Well.] So yeah, I'm a shallow person.

C: [overlapping] [laughing] Congratulations on realizing that you're shallow.

G: [laughs] Exactly. No, I just mean, like, even the way the show reacts to it, you know? Like, the flirting with the maid. [C: Yeah.] I think regular Dean, it would be like, "Oh, haha!" But because he's an old guy, it's annoying. But I mean, I understand, too, though, whatever!

C: I don't think it's being portrayed as- Wait. Okay, you think the show is trying to show that Dean is annoying?

G: Or that he's like, you know, that his flirtation is out of place, etc etc.

C: Really? [G: Yeah.] I just saw it as like a "This would normally work, but it doesn't, 'cause he's uggo." I didn't see it as a comment on the appropriateness of the action in any way.

G: Ahh. I don't know.

C: The joke is just that, like, it doesn't work anymore [both] because he's old. Like, that's the extent of what they're trying to say.

G: Yeah, I suppose. I think it's just like, "What does the imagery of this kind of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?" [laughs]

C: What? [both laughing]

G: It's so hot! If everyone can hear me fanning myself, like, this sound [air movement sounds], if you can hear that throughout the recording, it's because it's so hot. [laughs]

C: Okay, yeah, you should probably tell us the number of degrees it is in your room, and then everyone can sort of add that as a qualifier to [laughs] how much they'll judge you or not judge you for the things you say today.

G: Celsius... Let's see, "temperature [typing], redacted place that is my city [C laughs], right now." It's probably not even that hot, Celsius-wise. It says it's 31°C, which in Fahrenheit is 88°F. [laughs] And it's 9AM, so it's gonna get hotter.

C: Kind of bad. It's pretty bad. [G: Yeah.] I wouldn't enjoy being in that weather. And your A/C doesn't work.

G: Yeah. Aziraphale and Crowley are not talking, in fact. Why does it say, like, "Real weather" and then "feels like." What's that about?

C: Like, humidity can cause more heat to be trapped in the air, so then, like, it feels hotter than, like, the temperature? I don't know. It's a thing. It's also like, when it's like, windy, it, like, feels like a colder temperature because of wind chill.

G: Yeah. But how would you know that if every temperature feels like something else? [laughs] [C: I don't know.]They should be Jessica in the fucking swimming pool.

C: I think there's some way that- they're they're probably, like, incorporating movement or density of air into this thing. [G: Ugh.] I'm sure there's a scientific method, yeah.

G: Apparently, it feels like 36°C right now, so that's kinda horrible! Whatever. It's so hot.

C: Which- Okay, yeah, let me- Oh my god. That's too high.

G: Yeah, at the morning, too! Like, it's the morning! Everybody shut the fuck up. And if I say "blah blah blah," everybody should forgive me. [both laugh]

C: Just like Aziraphale.

G: Just like Aziraphale. [C laughs] Well, whatever. I don't know. I was just like- 'Cause I always think that Dean is an endearing guy, but- Not always. That's a lie. [C laughs] I think sometimes, Dean is an endearing guy, but a lot of that must come from, like, being like- giving him the benefit of the doubt. And a lot of the benefit of the doubt must surely come from "he is being played by an attractive man."

C: Okay, well, you just said a lot of unrelatable sentences, [G: Exactly.] [laughs] so I don't know how to respond to that.

G: It's why I kept on saying "me and other people"! [C: Yeah.] It's me and other people! It's not you and yourself. [laughs]

C: Well, thank you for sharing your perspective, Grey. [G laughs] This is a safe space. I found him less annoying when he was old because he seems easier to fight off. [G: True.] So I guess tells you you need to know about how I feel.

G: And he does. They do try to be like, "Haha! It's so funny that Dean can't climb the stairs." And Dean is like, very pissy about it, which is like, I don't know. [laughs] [C: Yeah.] And I did think, honestly, when Bobby- when he was like, fighting with Bobby in the graveyard, I thought that was hilarious.

C: It was pretty fun, yeah.

G: I think she said something incredibly insensitive to Bobby. [laughs] And I was like, "That's so true." [C laughs]

C: Okay. I don't remember what this is due to I remember nothing about the episode. We'll find out. [G: Yeah.] Anyway, so Sam sees this old man, who is a stranger to him for now, and freaks out. Like, raises his gun at him. But Sam realizes that this is Dean, which is nice, I guess, that they recognize each other. Or, I guess, just Sam recognizes Dean [laughs] 'cause nothing's happened to Sam. [G laughs] And-

G: Well, Dean's eyesight was bad, so [C: That's true!] he probably is like, "My god! That's what you look like blurry?"

C: Sam says that Dean looks like Emperor Palpatine. I've never watched a single Star War. [G: Yeah.] That's from Star Wars, right?

G: Yeah. He's the one who, for some reason, Palpatine returned. [C: - who somehow returned, yeah.] [laughs] So iconic, yeah.

C: Yeah. Bobby calls him John McCain.

G: Bobby literally- Dean literally is Bobby's favorite, like, I can't believe this.

C: Wait. Who's- Wait, like, why is him calling him John McCain favorite?

G: I don't- Wait, John McCain is a senator, apparently! I thought he was an actor who played somebody-

C: No. No, he's a Republican senator.

G: There's like, a guy named McCain! There's a guy named McCain who's an actor!

C: Um, [laughs] you're not talking about Steve McQueen, are you? [G laughs]

G: I, all this time, thought this was like, a cowboy actor or whatever. So I was like, "Bobby's complimenting Dean." Apparently, he's talking about a Republican senator who I will not make a comment on the appearance off, because I'm not a shallow person, Crystal. [C laughs]

C: Yeah, I mean, doesn't Bobby have a dog named after, like, a different Republican politician? Like, Rumfield or something?

G: We have had this- Yeah, we have commented on it, yeah, I think. [C: Yeah.] This is so- "John McCain. Biography. Vietnam experience. [C laughs] Political" blah blah blah. I don't- Vietnam was a draft, right? So we shouldn't make fun of all Vietnam [laughs] people who fought there. Or should we?

C: People did dodge the draft. I mean-

G: Yeah, Bruce Springsteen dodged the draft!

C: I mean, Trump was under fire for making fun of McCain for being a prisoner of war, so I don't- [G laughs] that's all I really know about his Vietnam experience. Anyway, Dean and Bobby have a bit of an argument about how this is Bobby's fault, but also Dean's fault. And Sam has absolutely no sympathy [laughs] for Dean, like, being 50 years older now, so maybe it's fine that Dean didn't care that Sam's Lucifer's vessel. Maybe they just don't care about each other, [G laughs] fundamentally.

G: Sam literally DGAF. [C: He just thinks it's funny.] I mean, to be fair, he did do that giant bet that he did. Like, he almost blah blah- But you know what? It was fun to realize- because when Sam went in to do the card game, I thought that he-

C: Oh, that it was for real for real. Same.

G: Yeah. And he was doing it for Dean and Bobby, and blah blah blah. But apparently, it was part of the trick, and I was like, "Wow, he's double bluffing not only the guy, but also me!"

C: Yeah, this is true. Yeah. So Sam just thinks it's hilarious that Dean went to the witch that makes you old. [G laughs]

G: Dean is still like, bitter with Bobby about it.

C: Yeah. About just getting them into this situation. Bobby says, "You just don't get it." Dean says, like, "Well, I can relate. Like, you just wanted to, like, not need to be in a wheelchair anymore, I can imagine." [G laughing] And Bobby says, "No, you can't."

G: [laughing] And Dean says-

C: And then Dean goes, "You're right. I've never been paralyzed. But I've been to Hell. [G laughing] And also, there's an archangel there wanting me to drop the soap," which is not-

G: Oh, yeah, this is a line made me miserable when I first watched it. But when he was like, "I've been to Hell," I was like, "My god! That's so funny that he is making- he is bringing this up." [C: Yeah.] You know, Dean Winchester can literally just be like, "Well, I did go to Hell" about literally anything, and he would probably be right. He did go to Hell. [C: Yeah.]

But yeah, the drop the soap line did make me miserable.

C: Yeah, I'm just like- How long are we gonna have drop the soap lines in Supernatural? Like, there's some point when they stop, right?

G: Well, I'm not sure. It's not something that I, well, one, knew the context of for the longest time, so [C: Makes sense.] it's not something I took into consideration.

C: But yeah. He says- it's like, in an earlier season as well. But yeah. [G: Yeah.] Very, yeah, okay. And then he also complains that his junk is rustier than Bobby's, so [laughs] anyway. So Dean's eating a burger, and then he thinks he's having a heart attack, but it's actually acid reflux.

G: Wait. Why did it make you- why were you upset with the line? I was upset with the line because of the, like, you know, Dean's awareness of- Because, like, prior to this, it is very visible to us that like, possession is a metaphor for sex, and so, like, Dean being convinced to say yes to Lucifer. Like, obviously, and the word "consent" is brought up a lot, so blah blah blah. [C: Yeah, that's true.] Is that also- Or you just do not like that it's "drop the soap"?

C: I just think it's a phrase we need to retire. [laughs] But yeah, you're right that it makes sense in this context, given, like, what they are trying to do with possession and consent. [G: Yeah.] But yeah, anyway, the acid reflux thing starts, like, a thing throughout the episode where Dean experiences being old.

G: Yeah, and being in my body, pretty much. [C: Yeah.] You can have acid reflux at a young age. This is an accepting space for everyone who has acid reflux in their 20s. [laughing]

C: So true. Also, the whole, like, Dean experiencing being old thing is supposed to later be, like, a way that he can relate to Bobby's disability more, right? [G laughs] Like, they're trying to do that?

G: I mean, I'm not sure what they're trying to do.

C: I think, in a later conversation, it is sort of-

G: You think so?

C: Yeah, I guess we could talk about it when that happens. [G: Yeah, yeah.] So they discuss the case, and they think that it's the poker chips themselves that are magic.

G: It's kind of stupid that they think it's the poker chips, I feel like.

C: Yeah, given that they know he's a witch, so it's like, he can just do magic.

G: Yeah, I thought that was so contrived, and, I don't know. I always thought that that was like, a trick that they were doing or whatever. But obviously not. I don't know. It's just- I feel like they should be smarter than this. Like, they've been hunters for so long. Bobby, specifically. And Bobby's smart with this thing, Sam's smart with this thing. Dean, also. I don't know why I excluded him. But yeah. [C laughs] Like, they're hunters, is what I'm saying, and they've had experiences with these things. They should know that it's not the fucking chips. But I suppose they need to lengthen this episode somehow, and also do the things that they do and get Sam to have an STD.

C: So they decided that they are gonna head out to find the chips, and if Dean just takes 50 of them, he'll be young again or whatever. And then [sighs], there's a knock on the door, and there is a maid there, and she is Asian, [G: Hell yeah!] and also pretty, and things. So you, of course, know what is to happen next. Which is, you know, she asks if they're ready for housekeeping, and Dean does, like, a lean on the doorframe thing, and, like, does, like, a flirty smile thing or whatever [G: "Born ready," yeah.] and goes, "Born ready." But due to how he is old, she does not want to fuck him.

G: [laughing] She says, "You're just like my grandfather. He hits on everything that moves, too." Which is, I think, a way to put someone in place. [C: Yes.] Like, I was like, "Well, that's a way to do it."

C: Yeah, sure is. And she also says, "You're adorable!" And Dean goes, "And dangerous!" and he looks very hurt, and the maid just goes, [both] "Aww."

G: Iconic. I mean, the girl, iconic, for what she is, but also, like, the show is terrible. Let's- I mean, but it is always. So that's just how it is.

C: Yeah, I mean, the show is terrible. Yeah, the maid is iconic in that- I don't know. I think that all of the scenes where it's like, a woman rejects Sam or Dean in, like, a sassy way, like, I don't- like, this is like, a scary situation given that, like, you're in the doorway to a motel room.

G: She's about to enter the room.

C: Yeah, like, and you're working so, like, you have to put on, like, some level of politeness or whatever. Like, you do, have to be very strategic about how you deal with customers perving on you, and, like-

G: She's also, like- I think it's also the implication that if it was Dean in his regular age-

C: Yeah, she'd just fuck him.

G: - she'd be like, "Oh my god, I'm into you!" but because he's old, and that's why this is bad. And it's like, well, I don't know. [C: It's just bad in general.] This is like, what I was trying to say earlier, that [laughs] hitting on somebody working is inappropriate. But because Dean is usually in the form of an attractive young man, it's like, "It's fine!" And I think, like, last episode, right, Dean was flirting with a nurse, and I was like, "Flirting doesn't count as harassment." [laughs] [C: Yeah.] But like, I don't know, I think maybe the nurse is different.

C: [laughing] You're saying if he was old in that one, then you wouldn't consider it harassment?

G: No. [laughing] No! [C laughs] No, but like, what I mean is like, the way this show interfaces with it is like, whatever. Although I would still stand my ground that the nursing isn't harassment, because Dean isn't the patient or the- Well, then, that would be different. [C: Yeah, that's also different.] But it's not a service worker in the way that this maid is, so, yeah.

C: Yeah, I understand what you mean. But okay, wait wait wait. You had a main idea. Your main idea was that they're portraying the flirting behavior here as strange, whereas before they would portray it as normal.

G: No, the flirting behavior is normal for Dean Winchester, but the reaction is like- I don't know. I truly have no idea what I'm trying to say.

C: God, I can't believe Dean did that in front of Sam and Bobby. Like, usually, he's like, in a bar, like, several tables away, right?

G: I think this is like, a posturing thing, also.

C: They're in the room they would have had sex in. What? He would have told them to get out? Like, what?

G: I mean, if this is Dean, regular age, I don't think he would have done this. I think he would have, like- But I don't know. But like, the thing is, this is like, posturing that, like, "Yeah, I look old. But, just so you know, I still have it in me!" And then that's like-

C: No, but I think the point is that Dean doesn't remember [G: Forgot.] that because he's old, people are gonna react to him differently. 'Cause he's like, very surprised when she doesn't react to him as he's used to.

G: I don't know. Supernatural. Who wrote this fucking episode?

C: Sera Gamble and Jenny Klein.

G: Sera Gamble, my enemy. Yeah, Jenny Klein, unsure of her enemy status. [C laughs] But yeah, I think maybe they just did not consider it that way. They were just like, "We need to have Dean flirt with someone."

C: Yeah, I mean, I think it's just like, "It's funny that now that he's not hot, people don't wanna fuck him anymore." That's it.

G: Oh! So Sam, Dean, and Bobby are seating in a van, like, Bobby's van. And they're like, spying on the place or whatever. And Patrick comes out of a building. [laughs] This is actually a very fun scene. So he is like, you know, wandering around on the street, and then he's checking his watch, and he goes, "Ah, it's time!" And he crosses the street, when suddenly, this car that is, I think, a fancy sports car or whatnot, hits him, and it, like, [laughs] literally just slams right into him, and he's dead on the floor. And I was surprised when this happened, and so is Sam, Dean, and Bobby. Like, it was pretty funny to see their faces be like, "Huh? What the fuck?" But yeah, the driver comes down and is like, trying to assess the situation, when suddenly, we see that Patrick is in the car. [C: Yeah.] And he's driving away with the fancy car. [C laughs] And when, you know, when Dean, Bobby, and Sam realizes this, Dean goes like, "Well. I mean, I kind of like the guy," which, honestly, we all do kind of like the guy, Dean. You're not special. Especially Sam Winchester. Well, and then Sam and Dean, like, go to a building where Patrick is, and Bobby can't go in because it's inaccessible, the building. The elevator is also out. Sam and Dean have to climb up the stairs. And there's this bit where Dean is climbing up the stairs, and he's like, doing the old man climbing up the stairs thing, and Sam is waiting for him in the landing, and then Sam just looks at him, looks to the side, and points to the number 2 on the wall, that it's the second floor. And there's a zoom, and I was like, "Bobby Singer, I am in you."

C: What?

G: [laughs] No, it's "I'm onto you." [both laugh] Bobby Singer, I'm onto you, and I literally am.

C: Does Robert Singer go by Bobby?

G: His- Wait. [C laughs] Yeah, I suppose he does, because everybody is like, "Bobby is named after Robert Singer."

C: Yeah, no, but like, they could have just changed his- like, Robert Singer might just go by "Robert Singer" in his life, but they took inspiration from him for character names but didn't want to, like, take [G: His name.] the most iteration of it.

G: Okay. Well, Robert Singer, I am onto you. Okay, is that fine? [both laughing]

C: Yeah. Yeah. [G: God.] It's like- it feels like, 97°F, where you are, it's okay.

G: And then, yeah, they end up in a room. They go in, and they end up in a- dial? No, not a dial. A safe with a dial. And Dean is like, "Agh, this is so easy to do," and he starts doing it, but because his eyes are fuzzy and not clear-

C: They couldn't like, get him some glasses?

G: It depends. You can't just get glasses if you have astigmatism, so. If it's just a farsighted/nearsighted thing that you can get glasses immediately at the store. Sam eventually is like, "Dude, just let me fucking do it." And he does. But then, as they're grabbing the chips, Lia, who is the girl from earlier who was talking with the older guy- who is with the older man- comes in.

C: And she is wearing Supernatural's classic black dress for evil women.

G: Yeah! [both laugh] She's wearing her evil woman black dress outfit. And yeah. It is so annoying that they do this. [C laughs] [C: Yeah.] Season 11 comes out, Amara is wearing this! [C laughs] Like, what? [C: It's so funny.] To be fair, they do put Amara in Harry Styles suits afterwards, so, good for her. [C: Thank god.] Yeah, she is here, and she is a witch, and as she was like, attacking them with her witchy powers, Patrick comes in and we realize that they're dating and that they're together. Patrick tells Sam and Dean that, like, "You can just get the chips if you want. It don't matter." And he also reveals that he's a 900-year-old witch. Very fun! [C: Yeah. Good for him.] And he says, "If you wanna win them, well, win them the old-fashioned way. Texas Hold 'Em." And I do always find fascinating the episodes where Sam and Dean don't beat or kill or eradicate the monster. It's always interesting when they do it. [laughs] Like in "Bugs" when they just ran away. I mean, "Bugs" had many issues, problems, disorders of its own. But that was the first one, I think, where it's like, [laughs] "We can't solve it. Like, let's just go away." And, I don't know. When else have they done it? Do you have a recollection?

C: I don't remember.

G: I've forgotten, but I'm sure they've done it again. But this one, too. Like, at the end of this episode, Patrick is not dead or stopped from doing what he's doing. [C: Yeah.] He's just- like, you really can't beat him other than Texas Hold 'Em. And I think that is a fascinating thing to do.

C: I mean, they can beat him, though. They knew how to do the spell. [G: They just didn't?] They just gave it up as soon as Dean was, like, safe.

G: Yeah. This is true. You're right. They just DGAF.

C: I thought that they were trying to kill him because they thought that, like, his whole game thing was causing more harm than good or whatever, but no, it was just to save Dean's life. Like, he literally could- He picked up the wineglass with Patrick's DNA on it, but then he turned young, and he just left the wineglass there and, like, left the apartment, and was like, "I don't care anymore." Pretty strange.

G: It's because they're trying to do Patrick/Sam endgame at some point, so they can kill him today. [C laughing]

C: Yeah. Yeah. Sera Gamble was leaving one of her sick fantasies on the shelf for later. [G laughs]

G: Yeah. Sorry that that was said about Sera Gamble.

C: It wasn't even about Sam being bi, it was about something else. And she probably does have sick fantasies. [G laughs]

G: Dean was like, "Okay, fine. Let's play." But Patrick says, "Well, your eyesight is so bad. What number is this card. See? You can't even see it! I'm not a murderer." But he's like, "Sam. How about you, though? Do you wanna play with me, Sam? [C: Yeah! Sam!] Sam, do you wanna play? [C: Sam?] [both] Hey, Sam?" [C laughs] But yeah, Dean was like, "No, don't do it, Sam." because apparently Sam is not that much of a player or whatever. But Patrick is like, "Okay, fine. Do your own thing." And he's like, but before you go, Dean, you are being punished already by your life in and of itself. But, Sam, I need to give you something just for the fun. And then he claps three times and gives Sam the clap, so.

C: And that was gay sex! [G laughs]

G: Well, yeah. Have safe sex, everybody, or whatever.

C: Yeah. [both laughing] So true. God. And he's gonna have genital herpes in "Changing Channels."

G: Literally! That's like, next episode.

C: Season 5 really is the Sam STD, like, season. Good for him.

G: Yeah. So like, we realize that it's the clap, because as they're going down, Sam is like, "Um, I'm so uncomfortable." And he keeps on, like, moving around his thighs and stuff, and Dean is like, "Well. You have the clap, bro."

C: They're going back to the motel. Like, Bobby, has some difficulty getting up a slope. And, right. So Sam is still saying that he wants to try playing the game, but Dean and Bobby both say that, like, "No, you can't, and you're way worse of a player than either of us." Bobby wants to go again because he thinks he understands Patrick psychologically, or whatever, but Sam says, like, "No, you'll die if you lose, Bobby." And then Bobby goes, [G: Yeah.] "So what if I do? What exactly am I living for? The damn Apocalypse? Watching men die bloody while I sit in this chair, can't take a step to help 'em?" which isn't true already, due to how he sent them on cases and things, but, like, whatever. Like, obviously, what he's saying is like, wrong, and just because of, like, his situation, and they do say that later

G: Yeah. I do feel for Bobby because the Apocalypse. I think we've talked about it, like, in his first episode or whatnot that like, that is- that seems to be, like, a big part, or even the most major of his concern. [C: Yeah.] That, like, it's truly the fucking apocalypse. [C: Yeah.] And this is like, an additional big problem on top of that already for him. And it's like, yeah, sorry, Bobby.

C: He says that he's "old" and "broke down." And he says, "I ain't a hunter no more. I'm useless, and if I wasn't such a coward I'd have stuck a gun in my mouth the day I got home from the hospital." And everyone's just quiet, 'cause, I mean, I guess it is hard to come up with a good thing to say in this situation, but at least they get to it by the end of the episode.

G: Yeah. By making Sam leave the room. [laughs]

C: By making Sam leave the room. Sam just says, like, "No, you're not playing again. There has to be another way out of this, and I will find it." When they go back inside the motel, Lia is just [both] there.

G: She's just hanging out!

C: And she gives them a piece of paper that is apparently a powerful reversal spell that's gonna undo all of Patrick's work for everyone he's played who's still alive. She confirms that if the spell goes through, like, both she and Patrick will die. And Bobby's like, "Well, why would you want us to succeed with this?" And she goes, "I have my reasons," and looks meaningfully down at, like, this necklace that she has.

G: It's so corny.

C: It's really fucking corny. There's like, multiple times during the episode where she just looks meaningfully down at her necklace. Like, okay. Like, I think, is it like- Does Sera Gamble think it's like, a hashtag big reveal that it's like, her child's picture [G: Her child dying?] in there, not, like, a love interest or something? Is that what the point is?

G: I don't even know what the fuck they're trying to reveal. I truly have no idea.

C: Yeah, it's just corny as fuck [laughs] is what I think. And I thought it was either a child or a partner, like, of equal probability, so Sera Gamble didn't subvert anything for me. [G laughs]

G: It should have been, like, a picture of Sam and Dean in there. [both laughing] And it's like-C: What? Why?

G: Why? That's a subversion. [C, laughing: Yeah.] Like, maybe she has been watching over Sam and Dean all her witchy life, and she's like, "These are my children, [both laugh] and I shall protect them." And that's a subversion. Who'd have thunk?

C: [laughing] Sure, I mean it would be quite bad, but it would be a subversion.

G: It will be one of the more horrible things done in Supernatural, which is saying truly a lot.

C: Yeah, like, they would have named this one "Jump the Shark." [G laughing]

G: Exactly. What if it was Adam in the locket? [both laugh] Like, what is this?

C: What if? What if. And she says that they have to do it fast because she and Patrick leave town tomorrow, so I guess there's some kind of a distance thing on this. And then she goes- Oh, also, an important, important costume designer thing is that now she's wearing, like, a jacket over her evil woman in Supernatural black dress. So now she's like, a normal, nice woman, because she's not just wearing the evil black dress, and that's [G: Yeah.] what you call ingenious costume design. [laughs] Very subtle way to indicate changes in character.

G: Like, when Sam says you're nice for a witch, it was for no other reason than the fucking jacket.

C: [laughing] Yeah, that she was wearing a jacket over the evil dress. [G: Exactly.]

G: Well, Sam goes to Patrick. Yee! [both laugh] And Patrick is playing a card game with some old man, and I think we are made to believe that he loses on purpose when he folds, [C: Yeah.] except I know absolutely not a fucking thing about poker, so I don't know. Eventually, he's like, "See? You're 13 years up. Like, why don't you just cash it in, call it a day?" And then the guy, Hesh, is very happy about this. It's like, "Oh, thank you!" And he's an old man, so he's probably gonna be what, like, 60 now instead of 73 or something. And yeah, Patrick is like, "See? Hesh is gonna see his granddaughter's Bat Mitzvah. Like, isn't that so wonderful, Sam? See? I'm just a good guy! [C laughs] I'm just a cool, good guy!" [C laughs] And yeah, even-

C: "Sam, do you like me now? Sam, was that hot of me? Do you like me?"

G: Yeah. Specifically, Sam says, "That was nice of you," and he goes, "I'm a nice guy." [laughs] It's probably not even that funny, like, when you watch it, but I think it's absolutely hilarious. [C: Indeed.] But eventually, Sam sits. They play and stuff.

Bobby and Dean are in a graveyard, and they have to look for a jawbone of a murderer. So Dean is shoveling, and he is very tired. He's complaining and complaining and complaining. And he's talking about his elbows and his knees or whatever. Yeah, Bobby's like, "One little grave, and you're so annoying about it," and Dean goes, "Then you do it!" And Bobby goes, "Fine. I'll hop right in." And Dean goes, "Well, at least your legs are numb!" They are pretty funny. I did think this was funny.

C: But this did happen, like, right after, Bobby said he's suicidal over his disability. [G laughs] Like, [laughs] maybe not the time, Dean.

G: [laughs] Maybe they should have reshuffled these fucking scenes, like. [C, laughing: Yeah.] I mean, to me it was like- I don't know. It's like, to bring levity to the situation. And then, because they do address it at the end of the episode. And in a way, it's like, Dean doing his usual comedy to whatever. Although I do think this is a little less like "he's trying to be funny on purpose" and he's just-

C: [laughing] I think he's just mad about his back hurting.

G: Yeah, no, like, because I do- Because you know how, like, throughout this episode, Dean has been, "Oh, well, how are you, Bobby? Like, are you okay, Bobby? How are you doing?" And that, I think, must be irritating for Bobby, who obviously doesn't really want to talk about how he really is. And so, having this instead of, like, Dean not being so careful with Bobby, I think there would be an aspect of it that is satisfying or gratifying, you know? [C: Yeah.] That like, "Dean is not seeing me as, like, some sensitive object that needs to be talked with so much care and consideration." Like, he can just go, "Oh, at least your legs are numb!" [laughs] [C: Yeah.] and it's like, there is an aspect of that that's a normalization of the situation. [C: Yeah, that's true.] I think. That's how I felt about it.

C: Yeah, but I don't think that Dean is thinking of that consciously, though. Like, he seems to just be reacting based off of being annoyed that his back hurts.

G: Well, I suppose so, but I'm sure there was that consideration when writing this, because that- I don't know. Was that not something that you thought of immediately when you were watching this?

C: No, I just think that when Supernatural wants to be funny, they, like, think that they're a different show. [G laughs] Do you know what I mean? [G: Yeah yeah yeah.] Like, they don't seem to, like, consider their jokes, like, part of serious canon, so it's just, like, a separate world for the writers.

G: Mm, okay. Well, it was my first immediate thought upon watching this, that that is what they're trying to do. [C: Yeah.] And it's not- from Dean's perspective, he's not doing it intentionally. I think you're right. It's just that from Bobby's perspective, that lack of intentionality can be, like, a better feeling. Yeah. [C: Yeah, agreed.] Yeah, [laughs] at some point, Bobby, like, diagnoses Dean with sciatica, and he's like, "You'll live. Just keep on fucking digging." And Dean goes, "You know what, Bobby? Killing you is officially on my bucket list." Yeah. They're- What's Sam say? "It's like Grumpy Old Men," and it literally probably is. I've not seen [C: Yeah, whatever that.] that show or movie or book, or whatever cultural thing it is. [both laugh] [C: Exactly.]

C: So Sam's playing his poker game. Patrick's chewing on the toothpick that he's always chewing on. He says, "I like you, Sam." [both laugh] So true! And he does.

G: And he literally does. Patrick/Sam endgame.

C: Yeah. And then he says, "I do," like, foreshadowing what he will say at their wedding in a few years.

G: Yeah. Their four-way wedding between Patrick, Sam, Rowena, and Eileen.

C: Exactly. Yeah, they're gonna legalize it. [G: Yeah.] It happens in the Supernatural universe. [G: Exactly.] And he says, "You're smart, and your heart's clearly in the right place," which he probably also says, as part of their custom vows. And Sam doesn't answer, but we'll work on it. He'll get there. [both laugh] Patrick says that he can tell a lot about people by looking at them. And Sam goes, "Oh my god, are you psychic? [both] Just like me for real! Are we connecting? Is this a date?" But Patrick says, "No, it's just intuition." And I do think it's nice that "smart" and "heart in the right place" are like, [G: His intuition on Sam, yeah.] the two big things about Sam here. Like, aww. Yeah. So they start playing, and Patrick asks if Dean knows that Sam is here, and Sam doesn't answer. He just plays. As they're doing the playing, Patrick is sort of trying to goad him, 'cause he's like, "Oh, I can't believe that, like, they're putting you at the kiddie table when you're cleaning up their mess." The situation is that Sam's playing, like, very carefully. [G: Yeah.] Like, he's only doing, like, 5 chips or whatever at a time.

G: He calls him a calculator player or something.

C: "Like he's playing the percentages," yeah. He's just trying to get Sam to bet bigger or something. They keep playing, and Sam keeps being cautious. And Lia comes in to make out with Patrick, I think, 'cause she's aware that it Sam's like, trying to get some Patrick DNA for the spell, or whatever. And Patrick wants to take a little break from the game.

G: They should have just made out, [laughs] and Sam went out and, like, spit in a bucket or something. [C laughing]

C: Real. So true. Yeah, no, that would be the way, but I don't know. They they weren't ready for it yet.

G: Yeah. It's the real Judas kiss.

C: Exactly. So during the break, Sam goes outside to consult with Dean for a bit, which is our reveal that like, "Oh, he's in on the plan. It wasn't, like, a big miscommunication thing." And that was fun. And yeah. So Dean, Bobby, have every ingredient of the spell, except for "a little he-witch DNA." And Sam hands over the toothpick that Patrick was supposedly chewing. And so he's gonna go back and keep playing the game to distract Patrick as they do all the burning the spell shit or whatever.

G: But, like, yeah. So Dean and Bobby do the spell, and every ingredient, like, flares up into a blue flame except the last one. And they were, like, "Oh, okay, well, that's it, then." But Dean doesn't change back, so RIP. [C: RIP.] So Sam and Patrick, back inside the bar. And Patrick is like, "I have a question. Is that is this what you meant to give your big brother?" And he like, takes out a toothpick of his jacket, I think, or maybe not. I've watched this episode two weeks ago. [both laugh] And yeah, it's like, "Oh, no, it's the wrong one!" But Patrick goes, "Well, the one you gave him never passed my lips, and I don't like cheating, Sam!" [C laughs] And then he- Sam, like, starts gasping for breath as Patrick chokes him out.

C: Yeah, he is! [laughs] No, he's dying for real. Sorry.

G: [laughing] He's dying for real for real. Love has become fake. Yeah, but Lia is like, "No, Patrick! It was me! Let him go!"

C: "And I have a photo of Sam and Dean in my necklace!" [G laughs]

G: Exactly! And yeah, Patrick is like, "Why would you do that?" And Lia opens her locket and reveals that she is secretly Mary Winchester. [both laughing] Yeah. But eventually- No, she just touches, apparently, her silver locket. [C: Yeah. Corny as fuck.] It's so stupid! Remove all the locket stuff, like, keep the lines, remove all the locket stuff, it's probably fine. [C: It still works.] It's probably fine. But it's just so corny like this. But eventually, Patrick is like, "Okay, well, let's keep on fucking playing." Yeah. But Sam and Dean- no. Bobby and Dean, trying to go up to the apartment, and yeah, they ought to get something that the guy has touched. Eventually, Patrick, like, says that he's gonna kill Dean or whatever.

C: Well, just that Dean's gonna die of old age.

G: Sooner than what he ought to? Or, like, he's just supposed to die right now?

C: [laughing] No, I think he was just gonna die of old age. I don't think Patrick sped it up. I think it's just, like, [G: He's 80, and that was it.] that was Dean's lifespan, like, [laughs] yeah.

G: Yeah. But eventually, Sam starts panicking. He's betting everything. All the things. And he looks panicky. He looks, you know, he looks it. But eventually, Patrick is like, "Oh, no, Sam, this is like, really bad that you're doing this, and, like, I don't know, there's poker, and then there's suicide."

C: Because he went all in.

G: Yeah, he put all his chips in. And then, eventually, it's revealed- Oh, by the way, Dean's dying, like, in a corner. [laughs]

C: Yeah, on the floor. This ain't about him.

G: [laughing] This is not about him. This is about Sam and Patrick. [C: Yes.] But yeah, eventually, Patrick is like, "Well, Sam, I'm sorry you lost. Here are my cards." And Sam breathes a sigh, and both Patrick and Lia are like, "It's because he lost! He's breathing a sigh of grief or whatever!" And Sam looks over at Lia and he goes, "You're crying." And, "For witch, you're so nice. It's actually kind of creepy. It's okay." And then he looks of Patrick, who is now, like, collecting the chips, and he's like, "Ah, you lost Sam." He goes, "It was a great hand. Just not as great as-" [C: Yeah!] And then he puts down his four fours. No idea what the fuck that means. But yeah, it's wonderful, I suppose. [C laughs] And he won. This is so stupid. We know nothing about poker. [C laughs] This is like later, when we know nothing about billiards. And I'm just gonna be like, "And Dean won, I suppose!" Patrick is like, "Wow, that's awfully great game that you did. Like, going out of your head. Very method!" And he goes, "Well, there's more to you than meets the eye." But Sam doesn't interact with that. He should have just like, "Yeah, of course there's more to me. Do you want to know, Patrick?"

C: Yeah. [laughs] "Do you wanna see the rest?" But yeah.

G: He DGAF. But he will in the future. Or will he not? They don't interact after this ever again.

C: Yeah, [laughs] Patrick doesn't come back.

G: Eventually, Bobby- who, oh, by the way, like, Bobby has been hearing all this time that, like, [laughs] Dean is dying on the phone, and then it goes quiet. And Bobby's like, "Dean! Dean! You're dead, Dean! [C laughs] Oh my god, Dean's dead!" But then, somebody comes out of the place, and it's Dean, and he's 30 again. He does the little jump that he does in every AMV where he's happy.

C: Yeah. And, as we mentioned before, when Dean was in the apartment, he had found a wineglass that Patrick's mouth had supposedly touched, but he's not carrying it when he comes down because they didn't want to do the spell to, like, help anybody else. They just wanted to do it to save Dean, and that's it.

G: Yeah. It's fine.

C: I think that is- I think they purposely show us, like, the guy, like, who won 13 years earlier, 'cause it's like, "Oh, no, if they reverse the spell, then he's gonna die!" So it's like, I guess it is the case that most of the people who lost have already died, so most of the people the spell would reverse would be, like, people who turned younger. So I'm not saying that they should have killed Patrick, but I they don't really interface with the fact that, like-

G: He's probably gonna kill people in the future.

C: Yeah. They should have had a discussion about first, like, the future people that be killed by Patrick's game, and also, if they decided not to kill him, then, they should have been like, "Most of the people who he made old, like, died already, and we don't want to hurt, like, that guy from earlier," and etc etc. So yeah, strange. Strange behavior. [G: Yeah.] And oh, last thing. Sam asks Patrick to cash all of the chips in for Dean.

G: Yeah. How's that-?

C: Couldn't he split them up? Bobby got injured, like, less than a year ago. Like, Dean can be, like, 28 or whatever. Or 30? How old is Dean?

G: He couldn't be 31 instead of 30.

C: Yeah, he could be 31. I feel like if you hear that Bobby's in this much distress, then, like, you can at least be like, "Can you hold for a second? I'm gonna ask Bobby if he wants this year." Whatever. I guess you can't split them up, or just the idea of Dean being 31 is just so horrible. Who knows?

G: Yeah. I mean, also, like, they are waiting for Bobby to- For Cr-oh-ley to show up. For Cr-ow-ley [C: Cr-ow-ley] to show up and have Bobby's legs be fixed by Crowley. I don't know. Like, perhaps they had that in mind, and they were like, "Okay, but how are we going to show that Bobby is experiencing emotional turmoil?" And they thought of this, and they didn't think of it further than that. [C: Yeah.] But they really could have just given Bobby the fucking year.

G: Patrick and Lia have a scene where- It's so out of the blue. It feels so odd. Does anybody else feel this way? I'm not sure.

C: Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Lia is just like, an OC that, like, Sera Gamble or Jenny Klein got, like, overly attached to, even though she just doesn't have much going on.

G: Yeah. She has one thing going on, and it's treated like a giant reveal. And it's like. well.

C: Yeah, I was like, "I don't get it."

G: Yeah, but what it is is like, Patrick and Lia are like, in love, I think. But Lia is having doubts about this whole immortality thing because- and she opens her locket, and it's a picture of a kid and a very old woman. And she says, "When I buried my daughter, she looked like this." And it's, you know, it's distressing for her, I suppose.

C: Why couldn't she have given her some years?

G: No idea. Like, teach her how to play poker. Like, come on. [C laughs] She goes, "When I buried my daughter, she looked like this!" And points at the old lady. And she goes, "It's not natural." So true! Maybe it's even supernatural. [C: Supernatural, yeah.] And yeah, Patrick is like, "You knew when you decided to come with me what you were going into." And, "This is what you wanted. You're still young. You're so beautiful. You have me." [both laughing] Truly a series of traits and characteristics to point to a person. [C: Yeah.] But yeah. Lia says, "I miss my family. Sorry!" And, I don't know. What is the context of this? Like, if she dies, she gets to be with her family? Obviously not.

C: In Hell? [laughs] Like, what's up? I think it's just that she misses them too much to go on without them or whatevs.

G: Yeah, I guess so.

C: Do witches go to Purgatory, or like-

G: No idea. I think they go to Hell. [C: Auto?] 'Cause Rowena goes to Hell, and like, I think the concept of a witch is that they sell their souls for powers or something. [C: Right.] And Rowena goes to Hell- Or they worship the devil or whatever. So Rowena goes to Hell and becomes the queen of that thing, so. [C: True.] Patrick goes, "[dramatically] I thought you loved me!" But not like that. Not like that. [C laughs] He just says, "I thought you loved me." And Lia goes, "I do. It's just that I thought I was cut out for this, but I'm not." And Patrick's like, "I can't do this without you!" And yeah, Lia says, "Well, you were doing it before me."

C: "It's okay. You can still kill people, Patrick! [laughs] You can kill people without me!"

G: Yeah, exactly. But yeah, they both go all in or whatever, and Lia loses. And she grows old very, very fast.

C: It's horrible CGI. [laughs] It looks like shit.

G: Yeah. And Patrick is emo. And that's it. That's the end of their story, both of them.

C: Yeah, I guess she and Rowena can meet up and be, like, [G: This is true.] opposite ends of the witch career woman spectrum. So there's that in her future.

C: So back at the motel room, Sam's being happy about his victory, his real poker victory. And then he needs to head out to get a booster shot for his gonorrhea. [G: Yeah.] And now that Bobby is alone with the the person he loves as a son, and not as a co-worker, [both laugh] they can talk. And-

G: You know, that started out as a joke, but it's becoming more and more real every time.

C: No, like, it is real. It's real. [G: It's true.] Dean says that he's sorry about calling Bobby an idiot. And okay, this is where I think they're like, trying to say that Dean experiencing being old has made him understand Bobby's situation more, where he says, like, "I get it. Getting old ain't a bachelor party, and dealing with the crap you gotta deal with." And, like, "If I was in your shoes," and Bobby goes, "You'd never stop complaining," and it's because Dean was in his shoes and never stopped complaining. I mean, I think that is fine just 'cause like, you do, like, become disabled as you get older. That is just part of it. And like, the things that Dean was dealing with are like, part of the disability spectrum. It's not the same as being paralyzed, and I think it's kind of done, like, sloppily, but like, I am fine with the general idea of that. And then he tells Bobby that he's not useless, and Bobby just tries to ignore this. And then Dean gives him a speech that, I think, works for the characters, like, who they are, so I guess that is fine. Like, that is the point of the speeches, for the characters. He starts with, "You don't stop being a soldier 'cause you got wounded in battle." So true. Being disabled is okay because our troops are disabled! [both laughing] [G: My god.] [laughing] I mean, that is the logic that he is working off of. Which, yeah, I think, again, makes sense for Bobby, but it's just not- I don't think is is the place that, like, disability justice should [G, laughing: Yeah.] come off of. But yeah.

G: For Bobby, perhaps it does make sense, yeah.

C: For Bobby, yeah, it is a direct response to like, "I'm not a hunter anymore," [G: Yeah.] and they consider hunting the same as being a soldier. [G: [Scottish accent] A soldier!] And Dean also considers torturing people in Hell the same as being a soldier. [laughs]

He says that "No matter what shape you're in, your family. Me and Sam, we don't have much left. I can't do this without you, so don't you dare think about checking out. I don't want to hear that again." Okay, I don't think helpful in a general circumstance. [G: Yeah.] For Bobby, probably.

G: Yeah. I think the "I don't wanna hear that again" is a bit too much. [C: Yeah.] But all the other stuff, I think- I don't know. There is this idea that I've been hearing, it's not a good form to tell someone who's suicidal that, like, "If you kill yourself, I'm gonna be hurt!" [C laughs] [C: Yeah.] because that's like, guilting them. And it's like, well, I think it works! [C: Sometimes.] So, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure for some people-

C: Yeah, it's a personalized thing.

G: Yeah, it's just one of those ideas that, like, it sounds good on paper that, like, "Oh, you shouldn't further guilt people who already feel bad," but like, I think there is a huge spectrum and a huge path towards recovery, and, like, maybe in the future, when the person is less of a suicide risk, that would be, like, an appropriate mindset to have that, like, oh, it should be the person- it should be removed from other people needing them, the worth of a person and the value of their life. But I think in, like, you know, when it's this straightforward that, like, Bobby thinks he's useless [C: Yeah.], and that's why he's suicidal, it's like, well, he is useful. And the way I can communicate that - like, in Dean's perspective - is to say that he's useful to Sam and Dean. [C: Yeah, emotionally.] And it's like, yeah, it works.

C: Yeah, I think it does make sense as a response to-

G: To what he said earlier, yeah.

C: Yeah. But "I don't wanna hear that again" is like, well, so if he feels like this again, [G: "Shut the fuck up, Bobby."] he should keep that to himself, and, like, not reach out? Okay.

G: But yeah, Bobby is like, "Okay!" He doesn't say that.

C: Yeah, he goes, "Okay." And then he goes, "Are we done feeling our feelings? 'Cause I'd like to get out of this room before we both start growing lady parts." Okay. [laughs]

G: Wow. Okay, misogynist.

C: Yeah. Okay, misogynist. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. What a line. It's so much. It's a lot. And I guess the point is that it's a lot in response to how uncomfortable he is. Like, it's like, "I gotta be extra misogynistic to feel normal again." But like, I just- I don't think it's very helpful to do like a "Don't kill yourself because you feel useless because of your disability, but like, also talking about your feelings, is like, a woman thing to do." Like, especially because people watching-

G: Especially because of the "I don't want to hear that again." [C: Yeah, yeah.] And it's like, well. Hm.

C: It's like a double whammy of, like, "Being suicidal and talking about it makes you weak!" And yeah, like, there are people who are watching this who probably related to Bobby in like, an earlier scene. [G: Of course.] And I feel like you've gotta be more sensitive about that audience during this scene. So yeah. Well. Oh, well, Sera Gamble.

G: Yeah. And then the final scene of this episode [laughs]- So Dean is like, "Let's go." And then Dean, like, starts heading out, and he's about to get a burger or whatever, and then he's like, "Nah. Not gonna get the burger." And Bobby's like, "Oh, really?" And Dean's like, "Yeah." [laughs] And then that's it! It is a pretty funny ending in that I'm like, "Why? Why is this the end of this episode? Okay, sure. Let's go."

C: Yeah, yeah. Are they- Wait, Sam went to the clinic. Where are they going? Didn't Sam take the car.

G: No, Sam took a walk, and now they're-

C: Oh, Sam took a walk? Well, probably, Patrick picked him up in his sports car [G: Exactly.] and then Sam got his booster shot so that they could have sex in the backseat after.

G: Wonderful. [C: Wonderful.] Well, what do we think about this episode? I completely forgot what I said that I thought this episode was like.

C: [laughing] I don't remember. It's been two weeks.

G: I think it's fine, is what I think.

C: Yeah. It's whatever.

G: But mostly, I think it's been so long that all strong feelings have dissipated. [C: Are fireproof, yeah.] Yeah, it's funny. It's fine. It's not funny sometimes. It's fine. Patrick was a fun character.

C: I mean, there was the Asian thing. [G: Oh yeah.] Patrick was fun.

G: Patrick was fun, so that was fun. Yeah. I don't know. What's the next bit?

C: Best Line/Worst Line?

G: Well, what is the best line of this goddamn episode?

C: Um. [laughs] "I like you, Sam." No, I think it's the- it's another Sampatrick one. What does he say? "We could make a player of you yet."?

G: Yeah, like, "Maybe some time," and Sam goes, "Oh, I have time."

C: "Nice bluff. If we had time, I could make a real player out of you." and Sam goes, "I've got time." [G: Yeah.] Like, so true. If Dean wasn't about to start dying right then, like, they could have gotten somewhere.

G: I have no idea what my best line is, but my worst line is all the he-witch lines. [C: Yeah.] It was like- [laughing] It's more mind-boggling than anything. Like, what? Well.

C: I don't know. It's such a weird, like, defensiveness. Like, "I need to defend, like, the castle of manhood by, like, being like, 'It's so weird that there's a witch who's a man. He's not a regular witch. He's a he-witch. And that makes him icky!" Like, what is this? Yeah, I guess my worst line is Bobby's "Let's get out of this room before we both start growing lady hearts." for obvious reasons.

G: Should we spread those sheets?

C: Yas.

G: Yas, even.

C: So okay, misogyny exists.

G: Fundamentally, yeah. I think this could be-

C: Yeah. There's the intersection of misogyny and racism for the sex workers and the maid. And then, I don't- [laughs] Lia's just really corny, but I think she's not that much- Yeah.

G: I would say it's a 2-2 for misogyny and racism. Do you think?

C: There's also the he-witch and the lady hearts on top of-

G: Yeah, let's bump it to 3?

C: I'd say there's a 3 in the misogyny thing, yeah.

G: How about the homophobia?

C: The he-witch stuff does feel homophobic as well.

G: I think it really leans more into misogyny because they don't make gay jokes about Patrick, only we do that, so.

C: That's true. And it's not jokes. I'm being serious! [both laugh]

G: Yeah! We're being so for real right now. So yeah.

C: So no homophobia?

G: No, I don't think so.

C: Okay. Alright, alright.

G: Okay, IMDb. What is our MDb?

C: I think on the lower end?

G: On the lower. Well, you're the one who's supposed to guess first.

C: Yeah, I have to guess first. Um, 8.2.

G: 8.2. Really? I'm gonna go for 8.5 [C: Okay.] because I think this is- like, not the most beloved. But I don't think people hate it. [C: Okay.] G: Okay, let's see. Oh! It's an 8.7.

C: Oh, that's high. What?

G: Higher than I thought, also.

C: Yeah. God, I'm doing so bad this season. [laughs]

G: Yeah, it's because you won last season, and this is my revenge.

C: Yeah, yeah. Indeed it is.

G: Yeah. Everybody is saying it's like, insightful, fun.

C: Insightful how?

G: "Nice villain." This one says "nice villain." Yeah, it is. "The one thing I hate in this episode was the makeup. Seeing young people going rapidly into old age with this horrible, less-believable makeup was a pity. But I enjoyed the show anyway." [C: Yeah.] Well, the thing I hated the most was the misogyny and racism, so I don't know about that, buddy. [C laughs] This one says it's their all time favorite Supernatural episode. No, "it's one of," sorry.

C: What year was this?

G: 2010. So yeah, at this point they had a few. This one says, "I give this show a 10 out of 10. A royal flush!" which is probably really fun if you know anything about poker. Oh, this one doesn't! [C: Oh, thank god!] "For the first time in 89 episodes [C: For the first time? For the first time!] Supernatural has let me down. I found both the story line and the directing faulty." Robert Singer callout! [C: Robert Singer!] "It had nothing of either the quirk or the drama-"

C: It didn't have quirk? It had plenty of quirk. It has a bit too much quirk.

G: Yeah. "They were trying too hard to make it funny and did not succeed, being left, at times, with scenes out of place(the jumping in front of the cars-" Why is that out of place?- "spell cast on Sam-" That was gay sex! [C laughs]- "the digging of the body-" That was funny!

C: That was for the murderer's bones for the spell!

G: Yeah! This one says "it was like jumping from one scene to another-" The only time I felt that was with the last scene with Lia, but that was pretty much it, so. "I was left with the impression that Jensen Ackles might have told the script writers that he needs to take a personal day and they had to woop up, at a moment's notice, a teleplay for an episode without him, and they just didn't have time to polish it."

C: Pretty funny. Well, maybe so. Who knows?

G: This is so-! "One thing I am sure of: if I can watch the previous episodes time and again, this is the one exception that will remain at one viewing only."

C: [laughing] Like, all of them? [G: This is 2009, so prior.] Like, all- Like, racist truck is like, wonderful?

G: This is a fascinating look into a psyche of a person. Like, imagine watching that episode where Dean calls Sam gay for knowing fairy tales [C laughing] that was so useless. That episode was so pointless. [C: It was pretty bad.] And being like, "I would rather watch that a hundred times than watch this episode the second time." Well, what else? It's like they don't even care about Bobby and his development as a character! I don't, but like, it's like you don't either. [both laughing]

Well, that's it. For this episode of B-B-B-Busty Asian Beauties. [both laugh] Next episode, we will be discussing Season 5, Episode 8: "Changing Channels." [C: Oh, for real?] Leave us a rating or review wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, Cas is gonna show up and he's gonna look like a pretty boy, I think.

C: He's gonna have tape over his mouth.

G: You know, I watched that episode more recently than I've watched a lot of the future episodes of Supernatural, and it is fascinating how little Cas, like, is in there,. Like, he's in there. But he talks not. He doesn't say anything, he's just blinking. He just shows up-

C: Yeah, he's just, "Dean! Something's going on!"

G: "Mm! Hi, Dean! OMG!" Yeah.

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Let's Rewind! Toast watches Voltron: Defender of The Universe (1984)

I now have access to pretty much every animated version of Voltron and now after around 7 years of being a Voltron fan and amateur archivist, I'm finally sitting down to watch (or rewatch) every Voltron show to see how it's grown over its legacy, starting with Dotu!

Season 1, Episode 1 - Space Explorers Captured

Starting off strong, the intro is pretty cool in my eyes, no wonder this was burned into so many kids heads when it was airing It also reminds me of Danny Phantom and how the backstory was in the opening, same thing here to get into the action lol

It's Hunk and Keith! NOT, the first shots we "see" of them aren't actually them! It's reused footage from Vehicle Voltron of the characters Jeff and Rocky, you can tell by the uniforms (and y'know faces)! This feeds my hc that the boys originally were part of the explorer though >:D

I love the way this art style, or like any 80s-90s anime, draws space, it's so pretty like CMON Also, I never realized that the boys got to Arus WHILE it was being taken over, I swear I remembered that Arus was already a wasteland so-to-speak by the time they got there

GOD SVEN'S DOPEY ACCENT IS SO NICE TO HEAR, I'VE MISSED IT SO MUCH I did notice that the city destruction image was later reused for Balto, which in the original GoLion anime is from Earth's destruction! NOT THE EIFFEL TOWER JUST BEING DESTROYED WHILE KEITH IS SAYING THE ARUSIANS GOT TO SAFETY MY GOD I KNOW TOO MUCH

First look at the pilots! Very 80s from what I think the vibe is, but also very personalized! Knowing their character traits, it fits them pretty well for the most part

"This isn't the first time [the team] has been in a tight spot" NOT THE FIRST TIME, YOU SAY? INCH RESTING

"[There was a legend that a castle of lions] held the secret of the super robot Voltron, Voltron could save them" YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR FAITH IN A LEGEND THAT MAY NOT EXIST?? LIKE EVENTUALLY THEY'RE RIGHT BUT OOOOO IS THE GARRISON USELESS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY ONLY SENT A TEAM OF FIVE INTO AN ACTIVE HOSTILE TAKE OVER ignoring the fact that they said they were too far to help anyway

The team literally got captured and yet the dialogue they chose was "we need to eject, it's better than crash landing, let's go!" ??? I think this was reused dialogue from episode 2 that they just plugged in

What a rad design for a villain, like he looks so fucking cool. I generally forget that he's reptilian almost vs his barbie doll looking son Maybe the subspecies of Drule he's a part of is reptilian! Holy shit Zarkon's eyes started flickering, is this guy cybernetic too??

PIDGE'S SQUEAKY TOY VOICE IS STILL SO FUNNY TO ME AND IT'S EVEN BETTER BECAUSE HIS VA (Neil Ross) ONLY TOSSED IT OUT FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES BUT THE PRODUCERS LOVED IT SO MUCH THEY FUCKIN KEPT IT

My god is the voice acting funny, Commander Yorak's weak grunt when slashing at slaves is everything

The Doomites are VERY different looking compared to Zarkon or even Lotor, probably another subspecies of the Drule race This time they look kind of batty? Yeah, that's it

I wonder what era their clothing is inspired by, obviously there's some creative liberty, but a lot of these clothes scream nobility to me also screams clowns but shhh lol

"What should we name this new robeast your Majesty?" "Uhhh Blue" Really had no creativity with this robeasts name guys

More really cool alien designs, I have to remember I can let loose when designing other species lol

Oh interesting, I thought the team fought alongside the rest of the slaves in the ring but Zarkon saved em for last Also, the fact that the guys were legitimately branded is insane, the dialogue makes it seem like they were all separated for it, but I refuse to think they'd let any of each other get taken away for it also they're called tattoos not brand, definitely censorship

ah yes Pidge's mad hops. Knowing he's from Balto, this is just telling me that my high gravity hc for the planet was right because there are only a few but very specific reasons why he'd be able to do that and being human ain't one of em

"Ugly virds" -Sven again some of these line deliveries are so funny, like every single one of svens just makes me laugh

the sound effects for Pidge jumping back down is also peak comedy oisndv

Lance's sass is always welcomed on this blog omg, the moody tendency is showing from his GoLion counterpart

"We're space explorers and we need space!" CATCH ME CRYING MYSELF TO SLEEP, THERE'S A REASON WHY THAT'S ON THE DESC OF MY BLOG NOW

If you hear laughing it's me LMAO

But actually, though, they're being treated kind of well in terms of being captured. The team never fights in the arena and when they're pretending to sleep as the guards are coming to take them over they just leave them be and reason that the boys will fight better tomorrow

those are some weak ass bars if Hunk can bend them

[Lance hands Keith a rock] "Don't miss" my humor is broken, and I'm laughing too much at a simple line

Hunk being afraid of heights is such a human characteristic to give him, and I mean that like it really feels like he's a person by giving him something that lots of people find silly or even relatable! (like me ha)

Their plan to escape was going level by level down with rope, except Keith fucking GETS DOWN WITHOUT THE ROPE It's ok, they hitched a ride ON A GIANT FLESH EATING BIRD THAT SWOOPS AT THEM

Hunk slips off his bird and reaches for PIDGE OF ALL PEOPLE TO GRAB HIM, but somehow that doesn't dislocate the poor boy's shoulder and they both go PLUMMETING TO THE GROUND AND SOMEHOW SURVIVE THE FALL Hunk lands in a pile of bones which OW and Pidge BOUNCES OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE OF HOW HARD HE HIT IT if that doesn't kill em, fucking nothing will good god Everyone else lands fine though, bastards lmao

Keith is Catholic™️ confirmed

Animal lover Keith over here being kind to mega vultures "I'll alvays think they're veutiful" -Sven You literally just called them ugly but ok

PIDGE'S KAZOO PANTING I CANNOT LMAOO They're running in formation (kinda), how cute!

Oh they really are all trained Sven and Keith knock out some guards with kicks Lance straight up tosses one without a sweat Hunk is also kicking but he's taking more down by himself AND PIDGE STARTS CHOKING A GUY OUT FROM BEHIND 10/10 would love to see more hand-to-hand combat

Straight up murdered a few guards by taking off in the slave ship, but shh they're robots it doesn't matter AND THEN THEY DESTROY PART OF THE CASTLE WHILE TAKING OFF AMAZING

Pidge sees a lion statue with a castle behind it and immediately just solves part of the legend that really shouldn't be a legend, the part with the castle anyway

So the team knows of the legend, meaning they were sent on a wild goose chase for basically nothing except that they did FIND IT Fun.

I think it's funny that they're describing Voltron before the split as a defender of justice but in GoLion he was literally the most egotistical bitch that after taking down basically everyone in a fight to prove his strength he got nerfed into those five lions

Episode over! Looks like I'm doing one episode per post with how much I'm talking lol That's all the time I have tonight for the rewind, but tomorrow I have a lot more free time, so maybe I can get like 2 more episodes at the very least

#Let's Rewind!#voltron #80s voltron #voltron defender of the universe #voltron dotu #toast talks #im going in order btw #so dotu then vv then v3d then vf and finally vld #then the original animes for voltron #beastking golion and armored fleat dairugger xv #this is gonna take a loooong time

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Thank you so much for the comic recs!! I'm just getting started on my Batfam reading journey so this is super helpful, and I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on your current reads once you're further along. On a related (but opposite) note, anything you'd say to steer well clear of, like run for the hills, hazard sign attached, avoid if at all possible? (for example, I know All-Star Batman & Robin is something I shouldn't read outside of morbid fascination)

yeah ofc! getting into comics, in my experience, was super fun and sort of overwhelming because there's so much content lol, so i hope you're enjoying it and i'm happy to help however i can :)

OMG all-star batman and robin, i still need to read that to satisfy my own curiosity, but perfect example.

so okay, i have three runs + one arcs, but i'm going to preface this by saying, read whatever you want. all three runs and one arc, i read going into it knowing they were absolute messes, but i wanted to experience it for myself. i would say to not read these first, if possible, if you choose to read them because they're just not great intros to the characters and they're not great stories, imo. lose-lose

Red Hood and the Outlaws 2011 (New 52). if you like kory and/or roy, this will be torture. if you don't know who they are, please god do not meet this iteration of them first. but if you're interested in jason, maybe you want to read it because he's there! i get that. but. there's very little, if anything, in rhato 2011 that you'll learn about jason that isn't reiterated in rhato 2016/doesn't get flat out retconned in rebirth. for example, in rhato 2011, his origin story is him stealing from leslie's clinic. that wasn't his preboot origin, and his origin gets retconned back to his preboot origin of stealing the tires off the batmobile. most of rhato 2011 just had me like ???? so bad. just so bad.

Teen Titans 2011 (New 52). full transparency- i did not even finish this run. at some point, i will probably drag myself back to it and force myself through it, but oh god. no one felt like themself. everything was wrong. i like tim's n52 red robin costume, and that's about it. i'm also not sure how much if any of this run is currently relevant in canon so like, even less reason to put yourself through it.

Tim Drake: Robin 2022. i have nothing nice to say. wait. no i do. it got some really cool variant covers. i don't want to bash the art, because i have enjoyed this artist's style in other comics, so i'm just going to be diplomatic and say it was a horrible match/fit. . as far as the writing...no, just no. this is one of 2 pieces of fitzmartin's writing that i've read and so i don't want to speak too harshly, but i really didn't like it. this whole run makes me so sad ngl. dc canonized tim's bisexuality and then supported it with this? bro. c'mon. there's already so many homophobic comic readers, they didn't need to give them "it's bad writing" ammo. genuinely would love to know the though process behind the production of this comic

the infamous Ric Grayson era, Nightwing 2016 #50-74. i just read this. i've legit been putting it off since august. it is so mind-numbingly boring for 85% of the run, first off. this is literally how most of the issues go: "i was shot in the head. i don't remember anything after the night my parents died. they told me i used to a hero. nightwing. i don't remember that. or them. they act like they love me, but it feels fake. i don't want to remember them. i'm happier this way." and then he starts running around, superheroing with a slash of black greasepaint across his face because that is just a+ identity protection and regular clothes because superhero costumes totally only serve visual purposes. and it does all get resolved in the STUPIDEST WAY, but not before the joker takes control of him and has him referring to/responding to “dickie-boy”- reading this i was either bored out of my mind or dying from the cringe. all that’s relevant is a) he lost his memories, b) he gets them back, and c) he had a girlfriend, bea. i knew all of this before i subjected myself to this run. but now i can say i’ve read every nightwing run woooooo. my LCS (local comic store) guy has been trying to get me to read it as a “rite of passage” and he was so entertained when i came in and was like “i read ric” 😐🧍suffice it to say, i do not envy the nightwing fans who had to go through that in real time. i love travis moore’s art but it was not enough to save this arc

as for my thoughts on my current readings, i post those under the tag #cue first read reactions! they’re usually not all that in-depth tbh, just me freaking out haha. if you’re comfortable, my dms are open!

tysm for your ask + i hope you have as much fun reading batfam comics as i do!!

#dc comics #cue answers #anon asks

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Middle-earth without Tolkien

Review of "The Rings of Power": Episode 1 & 2

I am a big fan of Tolkien's writings and the fictional world he had created. If you try to sell me a show that is supposed to be "true to Tolkien" and that is supposedly set in Middle-earth and uses the names of his characters and locations, I'm going to have expectations.

Unfortunately, in the first two episodes they were not met. While the show looks decent and could be an okay-ish start for an original show, at this point it does not work as an adaptation of Tolkien's writings at all.

Spoiler warnings for the 1st & 2nd episode under the cut.

The Production

Nice sets, overall good VFX and music

Let me start by saying that overall, the look of the show is mostly fine. This is especially true in regards to the sets and most of the visual effects: Moria looked impressive, Lindon has a few nice shots and the landscape shots are, of course, also beautiful. We also get some great VFX shots in the intro and whenever they introduce new locations. The music was good as well – for the most parts it was fitting for the atmosphere of the scene and was not distracting. However, I wouldn't say that it was anything special – only in seaso 2 I found one moment where the music really stood out for me.

Questionable character design

I wasn't a fan of the character designs when the casting and later the designs were announced, and this hasn't really changed:

Among the Elves, Galadriel's casting is probably the best of them, but the choices for her costumes are strange at times. Gil-galad is completely miscast in my opinion, and his golden costume just looks bad, especially the fabric. Elrond doesn't look the Elvish part, and especially his costume in Moria doesn't look good. Celebrimbor is way too old, and no acting can change that. And the fact that they make him walk from Ost-in-Edhil to Moria in his long robes is ridiculous. For Arondir, and other Elves, it's little details that sometimes just don't work or that are irritating – like the fact that most Elf-women besides Galadriel seemed to be veiled. And then there is, of course, the fact that all male Elves but Gil-galad have short hair, and I think this is a really really bad decision. Give the Elves their long hair back! Also, what's up with the Roman style of the Elves?

Among the Dwarves, things look a little bit better: Durin IV looks decent for a Dwarf, and most other Dwarves that we see look Dwarvish enough. But of course there is the issue of Disa, who according to Tolkien should also have a beard - which she doesn't. Her costume also looks not really Dwarvish at all. But since she is basically only in one scene in these two episodes, this can be overlooked.

For Men, the character designs are mostly okay – although Bronwyn sticks out in so far that she seems to be the only clean person in her entire village. The Harfoots have overall mostly fitting costumes, but the random plants in their give un unnecessary primitive impression.

Acting

The acting is overall decent – there is rarely a case where the acting feels off or pulls you out of the show. However, in these first two performances there wasn't really anything impressive to see either.

My favourite performance is probably Roberto Aramayo – his acting is charming, his line delivery is good and he displays the most interesting emotions. Especially in combination with Durin IV it's an enjoyable performance to watch. Notable is also Markella Kavenagh as Nori, who brings a lot of heart into her role.

My least favourite performance is probably Ismael Cruz Cordova as Arondir, who seems to have the same facial expression throughout the two episodes.

Writing

The writing and directing is, together with the weak character design, the weakest part of these two episodes so far, but unfortunately it's also the most important part:

The story and character treatment has many issues I will describe further below. The dialogue feels clunky at times, especially when its Elves talking. While I understand that they tried to give the Elves a certain way of speaking that probably tries to mimic Tolkien's beautiful prose, it sometimes tries too hard and too much. The best example is probably the following excerpt:

" Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot? Because the stone sees only downward. The darkness of the water is vast and irresistible. The ship feels the darkness as well, striving moment by moment to master her and pull her under. But the ship has a secret. For unlike the stone, her gaze is not downward but up. Fixed upon the light that guides her, whispering of grander things than darkness ever knew." – The Rings of Power, Episode 1

There are also times where it works, but the times it doesn't are more memorable because I had to stop and go back once or twice to understand what they tried to say in their convoluted way.

And last but not least: language. Something that should be vital to any series that tries to tackle Tolkien, yet here we are in a series with some really basic mistakes: we see at least two instances between Elves where they switch to Elvish for a couple of lines and then go back to seaking English. ... why? Aren't they normally speaking Elvish and it was just translated to English for the viewer? Apparently not. Then why are they speaking English anyway? Did anyone even thing about this? Why is this not addressed when it's hinted at?

More details about the writing I will discuss in the story section.

The Story

The Intro

The intro of the show takes about 8 minutes of the first episodes, and it was my first big disappointment. While it works as a short summary of the history and gives a good insight into Galadriel's current situation, it is also filled with small details that are simply frustrating for me as a fan of Tolkien's writings.

There is, once again, the repurposing of character lines right at the beginning of the show: "Nothing is evil in the beginning" is said by Galadriel as the first line of the first episode, yet it is Elrond's line in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. And so far, this line stands without connection at the beginning and there is no follow up to it.

The first scene we see is Galadriel getting bullied by other Elf-children. The first of those children to speak sounds rather like Draco Malfoy than an Elf-child. It kind of sets the tone of how the Elves will be portrayed in these two episodes (and possibly in the whole first season).

Galadriel's conversation with her brother not only is written with weird metaphors (see above), it's also is illogical at times. "I won't always be here to speak them to you", her brother says to Galadriel, and she is surprised. In a voice over she than explains that they had no word for death – but then why does her brother believe he won't always be there? There are other instances like this, so I want to mention this one as an example.

The plot of the First Age is very quickly summaries with a few sentence. It's not very accurate, so not going too much into details is probably the best. The visuals combine several images that could belong to various different battles: the War or Wrath, the Dagor Bragollach, and the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. There are some really impressive shots here, but half of them had already revealed by the teasers. Since there is not really much more there, I think it was a mistake to use them in the teaser.

There is a shot of Galadriel on the battlefield after the battle is over, and she just wearing a delicate white dress while walking through the mud. It's a distracting in this moment because all I could think about was "who on earth picks clothes like these to go to a lost battlefield..."

After the intro part, the episode then transitions to the main storylines of these two episodes, starting with:

Amazon's Galadriel and her quest for revenge

Galadriel's storyline is probably the most frustrating to watch, because out of the four storylines it's one of the two where the character names actually come from Tolkien.

However, there is not much else left that could be attributed to Tolkien beside the names. Amazon's Galadriel shows neither the greatness nor the nobility nor the ambition nor the wisdom that were central to Tolkien's Galadriel. Instead she is brash, inconsiderate and driven by revenge.

She spends the 1st episode as the Cassandra in the story - warning everyone of Sauron's return, but nobody seems to listen. But there is never a good reason given as to why everyone ignores her – instead, apparently most Elves have forgotten the pain of the past, Galadriel's men think it's too dangerous to search any further in the North, Elrond has no better reason than Gil-galad-said-so, Gil-galad actually knows Galadriel is right but apparently prefers to deny reality.

This leads to Galadriel basically getting shipped of into the West against her will – massively breaking the lore because it ignores the Ban of the Valar completely. Seeing the ship almost reaching Valinor wasn't as impressive for me as the creators probably would have liked, because it's not earned: in Tolkien's Middle-earth, sailing West is a personal choice, it's not something any Elven-king can hand out as a gift or keep from any Elf. It certainly shouldn't be used to remove the uncomfortable political opposition. It has no emotional weight because while the no-name-Elves in the background are all very happy, Galadriel obviously doesn't want to be there. Which is why she eventually decides to turn back by jumping into the sea. This decision is absolutely nonsenical, because anyone with half a brain would then expect to drown and die. This storyline may be impressive visually, but it's purely build on dump decisions by Gil-galad (+Elrond) and Galadriel.

Galadriel of course doesn't die, most of the 2nd episode she spends with not drowing, and during that she gets aquaintend with the human man Halbrand. About Halbrand there is not much to say yet – this episode mainly brings these two characters together for further story development in the following episodes. The other humans in these scenes are quickly forgotten, and only used for a quick example of human racism against Elves.

Galadriel is not the only mischaracterised Tolkien character here: with Gil-galad it's even worse. He is one of the biggest disappointments because he is an unsatisfying combination of being miscast, having a flawed character design and being written completely unsympathetically: Amazon's Gil-galad is a it patronising, lets Elrond write his speaches, and ignores Galadriel's warnings even though he knows she is right. The idea of trying to pretend the thing he doesn't want to be true will go away simply by ignoring it is directly contradicting Tolkien's writings, since there Gil-galad was one of the first to notice the growing shadow, and one of the first who tried to do something against it. I truly hate Amazon's portrayal of this character so far.

Other little things that caught my attention:

Climbing ice mountains with metal gloves is a stupid idea.

The fight scene against the snow troll is really really bad, especially because it seems to be so easy for Galadriel, and everyone else is just standing around doing nothing.

I'm curious what Galadriel's plan would have been if they would have found Sauron at some point during that mission. Did she plan to fight him one-on-one? If he had Orcs with him, would his not-so-merry band of Elves be enough to take them on?

All in all, this plotline was frustrating and dumb in the first episode, and got boring in the second one.

Amazon's Elrond and the Dwarves

Amazon's Elrond, as mentioned above, has the advantage of an endearing performance by the actor, but he simply is not convincing as an Elf – or as Tolkien's Elrond at this point in time.

Watching his scenes with Galadriel was frustrating because although they claim to be friends they don't really seem to understand each other at all. Elrond seems to act, more or less, on behalf of Gil-galad, which Galadriel resents. She is unkind in these conversations, and Elrond deliberately ignores that her concerns are valid - Galadriel has found some proof for her claims after all. And since I'm not a fan of Amazon's Gil-galad, I dislike the scenes of Elrond with him as well.

A recurring element here is also the attitude of the Elves – Elrond is not included in a council meeting because it's "Elf-lords only". ...who among the Eldar would refuse to count the immortal son of Eärendil, grandson of King Dior, great-grandson of King Turgon, among the Elf-lords? That's just absurd, but continues what was shown right at the start of the intro: the Elves as stuck-up bullies.

Elrond becomes a lot more interesting once he is in the company of the Dwarves. For me, his relationship with Durin IV was the only emotional storyline that really interested me and that felt like there was actually some depths to these characters. Incidentally, the issue of the Elvish immortality compared to the rather short life of a Dwarf (250 years on average, according to Tolkien) is one of the few moments where the show actually picks up on a Tolkien-related storyline. Had something like this story been front and center I would have been much more invested in the this two-parter. While the initial refusal of Durin IV to speak with Elrond and the following Rite are a bit cringe, the scenes that follow work quite well.

Durin IV and Disa are used well in this context. Durin III, while looking very Dwarvish, is less welcome because he really shouldn't be there without breaking another part of Tolkien's lore. But who is counting anymore at this point, I guess...? What is not clear is why Elrond ignored Durin IV. I mean, surely he got an invetation to Durin IV's marriage or the birth of his children. Even if time feels a bit different to Elrond, he still should know about the importance of such occations and that one can't just come a coupld of years later to them?

For this storyline I also have to quickly mention Celebrimbor. He is not well casted in my eyes because he simply does not look the Elf-part at all. And apparently Celebrimbor is aware of that: he has decided that he quickly has to build a large tower, until spring, because apparently he has no time left to be patient for no further explained reasons? If there is peace now, why can't Gil-galad's Elves help? Shouldn't Celebrimbor be a Lord in his own right in Eregion? What are all his Elves doing? WHAT ARE THE GWAITH-I-MÍRDAIN DOING? Anyway, Celebrimbor and Elrond seem to walk from Ost-in-Edhil all the way to Moria on foot, and Celebrimbor still wears his long costume and that's just funny to me. So far nothing that they have done with this character works for me.

Some little notes:

Fëanor's hammer in this series looks like a toy. Please don't show or mention it again.

The close-up reaction shots of the Dwarves during the Sigin-tarâg are just really uncomfortable to watch. This is one of the times where the editing draws attention to itself – and this is always a negative thing.

Overall, this is the storyline that works best in these two episodes. It's not ideal by any means, but at least it has a bit potential. Just keep Elrond away from Gil-galad and never show Celebrimbor again...

Arondir and Bronwn

Arondir, Bronwyn and Theo are one of the two storylines that have no foundation in Tolkien's writings at all so far. The characters are an Amazon invention, the location where the story is set is only vaguely defined, and the story itself is going nowhere known so far. It is most likely a setup for something bigger, but at the moment this part of the series is among the most boring parts to watch.

Arondir is the most uninteresting character to me, thanks to the writing and acting. His romance with Bronwyn hasn't had much chance to be developed and their scenes together show them mostly in a state of awkwardness or miscommunication. Nothing there makes me invested in their relationship.

Arondir's plotline mostly seems to emphasis once more that Elves are stuck-up bullies. So these human people have lived there for 1000 years, peacefully, but the Elves still keep a military presences there because they don't trust them? How lovely. There is a scene between Arondir and another Elf that tries to reinforce just how badly the Elves think of these people. "The blood of those who stood with Morgoth still darkens their veins", this Elf says, and that they had to be watched over not because of what their ancestors did but "because of who they still are" and "be grateful that you need never see them again". OKAY, WE GET IT. This scene is horribly forced and annoying exposition, because there is no need to tell Arondir this if he has been stationed there for 79 years. Take your indoctrination somewhere else please.

The humans on the other hand call Arondir "knife-ears", which is also racist but probably understandable after 1000 years or mistrust and control because of the ancestor's crimes. It's not very fitting for Arondir though, his ears are barely pointy...

Anyway. The Elves here also pretend everything is okay now, everything evil has somehow vanished despite there being signs that it's just around the corner, and it makes everyone look stupid. Before declaring peace on earth, maybe check around the next corner?

Some other little things that annoyed me:

When Arondir comes into the village, he has his hood so deep drawn in his face that it's hard to see how he can see where he's going. It looks ridiculous, put the hood further back, please.

Arondir has been promoted as a Silvan elf, yet he is under the command of the High King of the Noldor? How? Why? Since when did Gil-galad's kingdom ever go past the Misty Mountains in the East or the Isen in the South. Surely not as far as East of the Sea of Núrnen. Why did the show make Arondir a Silvan Elf and then just ignore a majority of the Silvan culture? Silvan Elves didn't want to get involved with the Noldor, they stayed in their own little corners.

Bronwyn has a Cassandra moment in the 2nd episode, similar to Galadriel in the 1st episode. I think it would have been better if Theo had been the one to do it this time, because now it just feels a bit obvious in regards to what the message is supposed to be...

The cut from when Bronwyn kills the Orc to where she slams the head of the Orc on the table is really really bad.

There is more, but I have to stop somewhere. Theo could also be discussed, but frankly there is not much to say about him aside from the fact that Orcs digging tunnels under his house sounds like mice to him, and that he found a sword and is possibly being possessed at the end? Either way, I can't bring myself to care for the boy.

Nori and Meteor Man

The storyline that is probably furthest away from Tolkien's 2nd Age is the HobbitsHarfoots storyline (trying to convince anyone that Harfoots aren't Hobbits is laughable, so let's just note that they are Hobbits. At least they are not yet in Eriador but somewhere in Rhovanion).

The focus is on Nori, a HobbitHarfoot with an Elvish name. The scenes with her and her family and friends are charming in a way, but I also don't have much to say about it because while watching it I mostly wondered where the point of all this was.

The point comes in form of Meteor Man at the end of the first episode: Nori finds him and decides to take care of him, and from then on her storyline becomes less interesting. Her interaction with Meteor Man is simply not particulary interesting, because Meteor Man himself is not particually interesting at this moment. It's a setup for something further down the line, and for itself it doesn't add much to the current state of the story.

As Nori and her friend correctly notice: Meteor Man can neither be Man nor Elf, so he'll most likely be one of the Maiar – probably Gandalf or another of of the Istari, or Sauron – depending on which plottwist route the showrunner will take. Coming as a meteor breaks the lore once more, no matter who it is, so that's annoying. And since we won't get any solution to this riddle any time soon I lost interest in that plotline half into the second episode.

Two small notes:

I quite liked the music that played when Nori first hid Meteor Man and explained to her friend why she was doing it.

In that scene there is the other small hint at a motif from Tolkien: Nori says she somehow knows that this is supposed to happen and that she is supposed to take care of Meteor Man. This is an echo of Gandalf's words to Frodo: "I can put it no plainer than by saying that Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, and not by its maker. In which case you also were meant to have it. And that may be an encouraging thought." Which makes the idea that this Meteor Man is Gandalf much more likely.

One question that remains for me when it comes to Nori: her father was hurt wenn he fell, so they said he wouldn't be able to migrate. But in the next scene that we see the HobbitsHarfoots in, Nori says that they'll soon migrate, so... what's with the father now? Is he healed? Did I miss something?

Pacing & story coherence

The show juggles with four storylines in these two episodes, and often a single episode suffers when it is split between more than two storylines: as a result not enough time is spent on each single storyline. Because of this the pacing is usually not that great – while the eisode jumps form storyline to storyline, the viewer has to follow constantly with their attention and emotional investment, and usually that doesn't really work. Whenever the viewer has gotten used to and invested in a storyline, the episode is already heading to the next part.

Another issue with the pacing is the fact that for all of the storylines these two episodes were mostly setup. But there are only eight episodes in this season, so 25% of the season are already spent on setup. At this rate, I'm curious how they want to get to the Last Alliance in five seasons without rushing it, but maybe they'll speed things up in the next episodes.

Conclusion

As an adaptation of Tolkien's stories, these first two episodes completely failed. As a story set in Middle-earth, these first two episodes also fail because they keep ignoring some of the most basic elements of Tolkien's worldbuilding. Of course is can and most likely will change in future episodes or seasons, but we'll see to which extend and in which quality.

As a fantasy series, it's not completely bad, but it's lacking a lot. The pretty visuals can't hide the fact that the characterisations and the overall writing is unconvincing, at times dumb and at other times boring. So far there is nothing smart or subtle about this show.

Most frustrating is the portrayal of the Elvish characters, and the Elves as a people in general. While the Amazon oirignal plotlines my not be particulary interesting, at least they can't get as many things wrong as the Galadriel or Elrond storyline.

Overall it was a disappointing start for this series, both as a show supposedly related to Tolkien's work and as its own work.

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REACTIONS TO EPISODE 3 - ONE'S JUSTICE (... like the game?!)

That is a joke, folks. If I get "This chapter came before the game" or some other stupid reply I'm deleting it and blocking you. It is a JOKE.

Still salty from... nevermind...

You all know the drill, my reactions are genuine and played for laughs! Don't take them too seriously. Some of you need to be told this for anything, honestly.

Before we get into the episode, folks!

Look, I am aware that because of what happened some people hate Hawks and love Twice, and vice versa. Personally, I'm pretty neutral on the situation for the fact that it can be interpreted in many different ways so therefore I'm 🤷🏿‍♀️. I don't hate either character.

With that, it's been MONTHS since I got any message in my inbox of any hero or villain slander and I would love to keep it that way.

I already made a post about how I think it's very stupid that people have to choose sides because others insist they do. If you like Hawks, you like Hawks. If you like Twice, you like Twice. Let it be.

Harassing people over who their favorite character is because you hate the character is by far one of the stupidest, most pathetic thing you can do in this fandom and in other fandoms. Just don't interact with that person and call it a day!

LAST EPISODE'S REACTIONS!

NOW TO THE REACTIONS!!

I won't lie, I wasn't expecting a recap again but I'm glad they replayed that scene when Eraser Head tripped the Doctor.

Intro a banger as always!

When Re-Destro stressed out! 🤣 Man's went from 🙂 to 😠 and the delivery was *chef's kiss*. HILARIOUS!

Edgeshot coming in with the killer move. "Move, you die. Try me, bitch." Okay, he didn't say that. Still though! I love Edgeshot.

"It's called Electrification?" What if Kaminari called it something else?! Huh?! Like Wattz?!

I forgot how acrobatic Midnight is... GO, QUEEN!! THAT FLIP!

If Curious hadn't died, I'm sure an interview between her and Midnight would be a fun one.

"Stay still and have a nice nap." Again, GO, QUEEN! Second, Midnight really out here "Take your ass to sleep" on people when you think about it! XD

KAMUI WOODS!!!

YES, MUDMAN REPRESENT 1B!!! REPRESENT!!

SHEMAGE, YES!! CLASS 1B, REPRESENT!!!

For anyone new, yes, I love 1B just as much as I love 1A.

*Shows Twice and Hawks* Hello Darkness my old friend...

Skeptic grinding his teeth was funny to me. He's like so irritated. Drop your hair care routine, my guy.

Twice was so scared and Hawks looks like an absolute menace! *shivers*

You know what, I love Twice, I do. But Hawks had a point about his quirk. If the cards were played right in the villains' hands sooner, Japan could have already be in absolute chaos. Luckily, Twice's clones are actually easy to wipe out with large attacks and well, Twice is Twice. Seriously, how can you hate the guy?

Just saying, even though Hawks looks downright scary... that shot of him staring out through the darkness has meme potential.

I cried a little when Twice started to break down. HE CARES FOR HIS FRIENDS! HE CARES!! He blames himself for the Overhaul deal, and not once have I recalled the others in the LOV actually blame him which is so heartwarming and heartbreaking.

He thought it would be too sad had he not been welcoming to Hawks.

"You were just unlucky." Well, DAMN!

That's the thing with these characters. No character is really too good or too bad. Some of the villains show "heroic" traits. Some of the heroes show "villainous" traits. That's why I say we shouldn't have to choose which side we're on because it's not all black and white.

"You're a good person." Oooh, and there goes my feels. 😭😭😭

Okay, thanks to the Hawks and Twice scene, I had whiplash when it went to the other heroes because uh... what the hell is that??

VAST HYBRID: CHIMERA CENTAUR!!! LET'S GO, SUNEATER!!! YOU'RE DOING GREAT, SWEETIE!

"So cool! Say it again!" "Leave me alone!" Oh, Suneater!... relatable...

DARK SHADOW!!

FATAXI! I love how Tokoyami is just sitting there. Tiny little guy. Like even compared to his classmates, he's short.

"I'll become an even stronger hero." Yes. I believe in you, my goth bird son!

Oh! Twice got a half time cut title card! First villain, too, for this season! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Oooh... nope, nope, nope. I refuse to cry. I refuse... and the tears are coming... 😭😭😭

"... to protect everyone's happiness!" DAMN IT!! HOW CAN YOU NOT CARE A LITTLE?! HE JUST WANTS HAPPINESS!! HE WANTS HIS FRIENDS TO HAVE HAPPINESS!! THIS IS SO FUCKING UNFAIR!

"Twice, you did nothing wrong." See? Dabi cares!!!

Okay, the whole Dabi & Twice vs Hawks scene, still in my feels! So intense! That blue is BEAUTIFUL!

BUT! How did Dabi know his name... probably did his own research, I don't recall. Maybe Skeptic with his nosy ass.

As sad as that scene is... that poo line got a chuckle out of me. I forgot about that line!

Toga's reaction is just... I just got up. I need to lay back down.

WOW!! They made basically a tribute to Twice in the ending song! Anybody else notice?!

Overall Opinion? MY FEELINGS ARE HURT!! I'M CRYING, YOU'RE CRYING, WE'RE ALL CRYING!! COMPOSED THE MUSIC FOR THIS EPISODE DESERVES AN AWARD, DAMN IT!!! THE POWER IN THAT MUSIC! CLAP IT UP FOR THE CAST AND ANIMATORS! Seriously, can we appreciate them at least?!

As much as people complain about BONES, same energy should go into at least complimenting the creative team. Like Twice's VA, Daichi Endou, fabulous performance! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Excited to see what more goes down in the next episode!! "INHERITANCE" LET'S GOOOO!!!

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Hi, I’m Toni.

Got a slew of new followers and I’ve been almost inactive the last half a year (at least) so wanted to do an update/intro so you know who I am LOL and so my long suffering fandom besties know what the fuck’s been going on (if anyone still cares rip sorry it’s been forever)

Currently writing this from my sick bed of ear cellulitis? That I got from wearing my mask? It would literally only happen to me. Had to go to urgent care and get a butt shot of antibiotics so it didn’t, you know, spread to my bloodstream :)

Anyways I say that to say that I probably got sick in the first place because I’m incredibly run down right now. The classical music world (im a professional musician) FINALLY opened up again, and to meet gig demands I only work my pandemic retail job once a week. I have been traveling the last four weekends in a ROW, which, due to my chronic pain (which has seen SOME improvement over the last year!!) makes me super duper exhausted and I have to admit tik tok has been getting most of my brain numbing time.

Life post-happy drugs has been tough. I’ve seen improvement in the areas I wanted to, physically, but mentally god. Drugs were nice. Anywho, I’ve done a ton of witchy/ancestral connecting/herbalist kinda things the last six months, and I now have an alter and a spiritual practice that has really brought me a lot of growth and meaning. It’s hard healing from your past when you’re still living IN it… and there’s no improvement with my parents. They’re still homophobic as hell and Republican as fuck, despite screaming matches. The threats of physical violence prevent me from confronting my dad any further. I’ve kind of given up hoping they will ever change.

It’s funny though, I would classify this year as the year I started to “feel” things, and of course that happened physically post the drugs, but also emotionally once I started to let myself FEEL emotions, god what a train wreck. Who knew humans could CRY so much? That emotional revelation led to the probably overdue realization that I’m likely Autistic and high masking, and have been suffering from that classic 30’s wall that “gifted girl high masking autistic children” eventually hit wherein they are no longer able to just push through and ignore. That’s been tough.

Writing has always been how I process and understand emotions, and now that I’ve started to actually FEEL them, it hasn’t become as essential to my functioning as it had been the last six or so years. I miss it, and I plan on finishing all my projects I left behind… as I’ve said many time The Garden part 3 IS coming I promise lol. But! Hopefully. And no promises. But I have the most delightful Christmas fic tucked into my head that I would love to publish this year, if I can find the time to get it on paper.

Okay as for fandom… I did a “growth thing” earlier this year and deleted all the bbygate stuff I’d been saving for the inevitable end. I just can’t anymore. All the photoshop, the blatant exploitation of it all… yeah I think the best option is just not to care. If they’re gonna drag this out for the rest of my life then I’m going to ignore the shit out of it. Speaking of ignoring, I also noped out of the H and O nonsense. God. What a MESS. I liked HH, truly, but the fave for me was Matilda. To be honest with you all, I listened until I grew naturally full of the album and I moved on with my life, it wasn’t world changing to me the way FL was. HOWEVER. FITF? Lord save me i didn’t even know it was coming out and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I’m fucking obsessed. I’m planning a MP. I genuinely think it’s Louis’ finest work and I can’t get enough of it. Every time I listen I like it MORE. I theorize it’s going to be a slow blooming album that smacks everyone’s expectations in the face. I’m so fucking proud of Louis. I bawled real ugly tears at Common People.

And lastly as always, I believe the boys were in love but I make no claims about their lives now. I enjoy the hints and speculation and love larrying along, but I think they’ve established these personas that are bulletproof to fan speculation these days, and I feel that’s how they truly want it. And that’s cool, won’t stop me from writing Larry because it was the truest gayest baby Star crossed lovers story out there and still makes the best fan fic.

Apologies for the novel but nice to meet you if you’re new HI I’M TRYING TO BE BACK to my old chums, and feel free as always to talk to me, my ask box is always open ❤️

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A Review of “Creed III (2023)”

I love the Rocky franchise. It has its lows and its over-the-top entries but for the most part, this series has been mostly hits than misses. Creed was a spinoff and I never expected to enjoy it so immensely. I loved Creed 1 and Creed 2 which is why I was hoping for a hat trick with Creed 3. There was some worry as this is the first entry without Rocky. it was also Michael B. Jordan's directorial debut with him starring as Creed and directing. So does it succeed or is this a miss?

Firstly, Michael did a great job in his directorial debut. He pushes the Creed movies out of Rocky's shadow and gives it more grit. The fights feel more visceral and flashy with some clear anime-inspired influence. He uses a lot of slow-mo which leads to some nice-looking shots. I also think the boxing intro and montage were also really well shot as well. He also does something interesting in the final fight that involves silence which gave it a new feel. The soundtrack was awesome and the cinematography is great. He also gives darker qualities to the story with the backstory and personal connection with the antagonist Damian (Jonathan Majors).

On that note, Jonathan Majors is terrific as the antagonist. I love his performance, with the subtle awkwardness and slightly pained expression in the first half. Then in the second half, we get to see Jonathan give an arrogant, menacing performance when he goes full bad guy. I also enjoyed how sympathetic he is as a character as well. You understand why Adonis would help him. Additionally, Michael continues to give a great performance as Adonis Creed with the amount of emotional moments in this film. There is great chemistry between Michael and Jonathan which made the friendship between their characters feel believable. Tessa returns as Bianca and she is good in her small role in this film as well.

However, I do have some issues with this film. The first half focuses on building up the characters and eventual conflict which is fine. The second half is incredibly rushed though with clearly many cuts made towards it. We don't get a great sense of how much time passed so it is baffling to suddenly see Damian successful so quickly. It would've helped to have seen Damian in more fights. We could have seen him growing more and more successful while also seeing how much of a threat he is. Unfortunately, this movie doesn't have a lot of boxing fights and enough build-up in the second half. It is also weird how quickly Damian's personality changes. Another issue is the lack of inner conflict for Adonis. We see him feeling guilty about what happened to Damian but that's mostly it. For example, we don't see his doubt about retiring or concern about his daughter and wife. On that note, there is a daughter subplot introduced in this film that went nowhere. Felt very pointless.

Overall, Creed III is another good entry in this franchise. It's an impressive directorial debut from Michael and I look forward to future work from him, Creed or otherwise. Even without Rocky, this franchise seems to be doing well standing on its own feet. I'm not sure what direction Creed 4 can go in but if it is of a similar quality to previous entries, then I will 100% be there to watch!

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Episode 22: The Trap of M'Quve

feels weird seeing ryu in the opening now

i like the new intro narration, though it feels a bit weird to not actually recap what just happened. the visualization of the sides was cool

amuro fighting a new gouf. glad to see that wasn't a ramba ral exclusive, and zeon is in fact making more of them

oh, bright's not doing too hot

how many rocket launchers do they have, it feels like they've gone through a lot

same with the shield. is it just really easy to repair? also i like that even against random grunts amuro has to work a lot harder now than he did against zakus

oh, bright's really not doing well

i don't want to sell you short m'quve, but you did not have 10 episodes of build up as a cool warrior like ramba ral. i fear you're not long for this world

this show has a remarkable amount of nudity considering how unhorny it's been. not that this conversation isn't weird and a little gross, but you know

this whole thing with bright has weird vibes. maybe i just didn't get enough sleep last night (not weird as in bad, it just feels slightly undercooked)

no metal allowed for these zeon guys

i guess the white base has some sort of metal detector running? how does that interact with all the minovsky particles?

anyways, they snuck on to the base remarkably easily

so this was just sabotage, huh?

oh, that's clever! the minovsky particles are out now. their radar works

mirai accidentally saying ryu's name is a real bummer

yeah the core fighter seems like a bad idea. though i only say that because there's only one episode so far without a big gundam fight in it, and i don't think this episode is going to be the second

they're holding on though!

is bright delirious?

"why can't kai do this?" "sorry hayato, the animators weren't feeling smug enough to draw him for more than a frame today"

amuro always says the transfer is about to fail and then does it with no problem

so do they just have an infinite supply of shields? because it broke earlier this episode

these goufs are going down a lot easier than ramba ral's, but i guess ramba ral was a better pilot. it's still nice to see amuro struggling against randos again, it's been like 20 episodes.

me: how do you expect hayato to cover you, he just said he was out of ammo hayato: [just throws a big rock]

the zeon guy just climbing out of his gouf when amuro bludgeons the cockpit open was a good bit

to be fair to mirai, her job is just to fly the thing

OH SHIT

JUST SHOT RIGHT THROUGH THE BASE

this track was definitely in eva

i would be doing about as well as mirai at this point tbh

i think you gotta stop worrying about odessa day, that can't be your biggest concern here

this was the point where i did in fact order my first gunpla

#0079 #gundam liveblog

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