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sophsun1 · 7 months
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brlankinney · 3 months
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queer as folk the book | the kinneys
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xroub · 1 year
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something i think would have been interesting and would have liked to see was Justin meeting Joan again, even if for another brief minute like in s2. But I just have this imagine in my head of when Joan was at Kinnetik in s4, Justin being there as well ("And I like the name. Kinnetik with two nn's. It's very clever." "Thanks, I thought so.") and the two having this quick and awkward conversation where Justin explains that they have briefly met before. And then Joan having her usual disgusted and awkward face when confronted with the fact that her sexually deviant son appears to have a long term partner.
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death-by-bikini · 4 months
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monstrousdahlia · 2 years
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not to heed anything courtney love has ever said but wasn’t she like “go find the 3 biggest bitches in your town and start a band” great advice actually and didn’t brockhampton like meet on kanye west livejournal? so let’s do this fellas im not even joking shoot me a message and let’s jam on zoom or something idk no one wants to be in a queer rock band irl
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i'm so goddamn congested right now
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thenerdsofcolor · 1 year
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NOC Exclusive Clip: Rita Moreno Helps Emily Kinney Follow Her Heart in 'Santa Bootcamp'
NOC Exclusive Clip: Rita Moreno Helps Emily Kinney Follow Her Heart in 'Santa Bootcamp' @TheRitaMoreno @emmykinney @LifetimeTV @lifetimetvpr #SantaBootcamp #ItsAWonderfulLifetime
As part of Lifetime’s “It’s a Wonderful Lifetime,” Emily Kinney, Patrick Cassidy, and Rita Moreno are bringing audiences the magic of Christmas in Santa Bootcamp, which marks Melissa Joan Hart’s fourth Lifetime movie as a director. The holiday film premieres Saturday, November 19 at 8/7c, but before that, The Nerds of Color has an exclusive clip to share! (more…)
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stxr-bxy · 7 months
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alternative marauders headcanons
james
somewhat alt, more of a rock person but definitely appreciates alt culture. favorite artists are fleetwood mac, melanie safka, jaco pastorious, the smashing pumpkins, and heart.
sirius
punk rock badass. his favorite bands are bad brains, death, black flag, bad religion, and sleater-kinney. he likes the sex pistols too. but has an appreciation for lots of music. he likes david bowie, sisters of mercy, and deftones.
remus
prefers rock but also enjoys punk. favorite artists are david bowie, the strokes, october country, pink floyd, and iggy pop. considers himself punk-ish because he listens to the music and agrees with the ideology. the proof that you don’t have to dress punk to be punk.
peter
grunge rock stan. favorite artists are nirvana, soundgarden, mudhoney, red hot chili peppers, and stone temple pilots. dresses like he’s homeless (which is basically how i dress) but makes it look cool with diy and studs and spikes.
lily
loves almost all music. favorite artists are radiohead, evanescence (idk why i just think she’d like them), bratmobile, pixies, and x ray spex. she dresses kinderwhore-ish grunge and loves dressing feminine and distressed (idk how to describe it). adores the punk subculture and loves when baby punks come to her shows.
marlene
the ultimate riot grrrl. dislikes the movement from the 90s bc it wasn’t super intersectional and excluded queer/trans women and poc but recognizes that it did help some women and should come back with some improvements. favorite artists are bikini kill, hole (but doesn’t support courtney love), bratmobile, emily’s sassy lime, and L7
mary
somewhat alternative but definitely a badass. favorite artists are abba, fiona apple, björk, kate bush, the bangles, and blondie. she likes anything raw and emotional with meaningful lyrics. loves to analyze songs and find out the symbolisms behind them. in her opinion music doesn’t need to sound good to be good, she cares more about the meaning.
emmeline
loves female artists and queer punk. favorite artists are mommy long legs, kittie, pinkshift, cheap perfume, and baby guts. loves subversing gender roles in music and fashion so she sometimes dresses masc and incorporates those themes in her music. proof that someone can be both a sweetheart and a total badass at the same time.
emma
loves all music. literally everything. favorite artists are coven, the slits, mitski, garbage, and limp bizkit. her style changes all the time but she loves hippie and indie styles. her favorite song is california dreaming by the mamas and the papas. loves lighting incense and going for walks. somewhat alt but more of a mellow subversive alt instead of an in-your-face-let’s-tear-it-all-down angle.
regulus
goth and punk. favorite artists are joy division, alien sex fiend, the muslims, and the clash. doesn’t dress very punk but dresses in a more casual goth style. only goes all out for shows and concerts he goes to. most of his wardrobe is black so he can never find specific clothing items.
pandora
faerie goth and hippie-ish. loves ethereal wave and cold wave music but also likes other stuff. favorite artists are molchat doma, cocteau twins, nine inch nails, and siouxsie and the banshees. dresses in a hippie-ish fairycore style and never dresses casual unless she’s at home. definitely shaved or bleached her eyebrows at one point.
barty
punk punk punk punk. the punkiest mf you’ve ever seen in your life. he exclusively wears leather jackets and crust pants. favorite bands are dead kennedys, rage against the machine, pure hell, the runaways, and pansy division.
evan
barty’s badass boyfriend. listens to almost all music. his favorite artists are eminem, the neighborhood, kiss, and joan jett and the blackhearts. somewhat alt, fashion is whatever he can afford and thinks is cool. gets a new piercing or dyes his hair as a coping mechanism.
dorcas
punk rock princess. favorite bands are pure hell, gina young, vulpes, bad brains, and mannequin p*ssy. they love poly styrene (x ray spex) and really look up to her because she was a very influential black woman in punk music. always had headphones on and is blasting “germfree adolescents” at all times. also loves kat bjelland (babes in toyland) and ari up (the slits)
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sophsun1 · 7 months
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This gifset I made of Joan and Jack Kinney's perception that Brian was a carbon copy of his father a lone wolf and selfish man vs Justin knowing that was the furthest thing from the truth hits even harder when you flashback to 1.02 where Brian has such a visceral reaction to Ted yelling at Michael "Where do people get off thinking I'm not a kind person? I happen to be very kind, very loving/ My only responsibility is to myself I don't owe anybody a goddamn thing."
Selfish is such a prominent word in his life. We hear it from many of his so called friends. He's selfish and can't or won't love anyone or anything. Yet his actions towards them even when they don't deserve it show the complete opposite. You can sort of see why it cuts so deep when he hears these words "selfish and responsibility" in the context of the scenes with his parents.
We have Joan in church telling Brian he reminds her of Jack, he's equally as selfish always letting her down and mocking her love for God. How she took Jack's abuse and beatings to protect him though we the audience know Brian had his own share of abuse from him both physical and emotional along with his mother's neglect and alcoholism. He denies this but she won't hear of it. Adding on to her previously telling him her new priest has been like a son to her and now Brian has the power to destroy her entire world view and he doesn't. There's also a weird sort of parallel where now instead of her biological son being like her husband, her surrogate son is just like the son she rejects and is ashamed of.
Jack proudly announcing he's a chip off the old block not made to be a family man, Brian agreeing. Throw in the bombshell that if it was up to him, Brian wouldn't even exist. This man who shirked all responsibilities as a husband, a father and role model to his children telling his son who he wished was never born that he is just like him. Imagine the mind fuck. His line about not letting the ladies tie him down, Brian knowing he would never be accepted if he ever came out to him. Then buttering him up for cold hard cash, even though Brian had it ready and waiting because he knew that's all he's worth to him. Which leads me to the anger I feel towards Mel and Lindsey who immediately jump on Brian about his financial responsibility to Gus. Wanting him to sign a life insurance policy because his "lifestyle" according to Mel makes him more of a risk factor. They don't want him to be fully physically involved but they'll take his money. Here comes the theme of death once more, his father didn't want him to exist but he'll take his money. Mel and Lindsey, pointing out if he dies it doesn't matter as long as Gus profits. Yet he fought so hard for Lindsey in the custody battle for J.R, funding it all when he never got that same unwavering support when it came to Gus. Wanting so steadfastly to take care of Justin financially when they were together and apart because that's how he has been made to feel with Gus and his father. So many layers. Sonny boy indeed.
Is it any wonder? Brian Kinney never believed in love and thought it only lead to bitterness and resentment, and settling down meant settling into a toxic environment where hatred flourished. Especially as your parents are your first example of love and family. You literally are the product of that union in most cases, it's a fundamental part of your childhood and has a deep effect on you ergo why therapists always lead with "So tell me about your relationship with your mother/father."
WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A SEASON DEDICATED TO THIS ASPECT!
Ultimately people are always wanting a piece of Brian. The raw, unfiltered Brian Kinney that Justin sees and accepts and loves is not good enough for them. Sure they have their moments and he's by no means perfect but Justin doesn't want to intrinsically change him, he encourages him to be better and we see Brian respond to this. They blow hot and cold, his Peter Pan complex is embarrassing it's time to grow up! Brian tries to change, no this isn't the Brian we know and love, we prefer the old version of him come back! With his friends he's made to feel responsible for their mistakes and fuck ups, to be a support to them, to help rescue them even to his own detriment at times. To feel guilt at his existence in their lives and how it affects them, as financial support or simply telling him how to react/feel to really major emotional life events. Debbie insisting he "owed" his father his coming out, telling Joan he had cancer. Michael at his father's death, that regardless of what he did he was still his dad. The amount of pressure that was placed on him was insane the "responsibility" never ends. It goes to the -> I don't owe anybody a goddamn thing! He got himself out of his terrible upbringing, worked hard and got an amazing loft with a job in a career he excels at. No one gave him a hand out. Technically even when they did in the concerned citizens for truth era he paid them back plus extra. He hates feeling indebted to people, or in need, and yes part of that is pride but also because he's the one that is always on standby to be that for others, so where is his room to fail?
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winderlylandchime · 9 months
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I have a question that I wanna know your thoughts on, if you care to have them :). When and how do you think Brian Kinney became Brian Kinney. The ‘no excuses, no apologies, no regrets’ Brian Kinney. And when do you think he became the stud of Liberty Avenue? I mean Debbie does tell in s1 that Brian has basically been a loose canon since the day Michael met him when they were 14. And in season 5 i think it’s revealed they went to the club for the first time when they were like 17/18 and Brian even makes a tiny brag about the backroom (btw i will never be over that scene because they put them in “teens” clothes and said fuck it) but I always wondered at what point did Brian become ‘the man, the myth, the legend’ and like how that had to be for him and his friends or I guess Mikey since he was obsessed with him and then suddenly he was fucking everyone. Sorry for such a random all over the place question, you can tell I recently started a rewatch.
Oh dear sweet anon! I love all {kind} asks in my askbox equally, but some I love more equally than others. You have truly unleashed the beast with this one as I literally have a doctorate in analyzing characters (sure, at work I call it ‘case conceptualization’ but tomato tomahto and all.) I’m going to put this all under a “read more” because I love my mutuals and I don’t want to subject their dashes to what is undoubtedly going to be an unhinged character analysis. Pour yourself a beverage of your choosing, grab a snack, and buckle in.
My mother is a frigid bitch. My father was an abusive drunk. They had a hateful marriage, which is probably why I am…unwilling or unable to form a long-term, committed relationship of my own. The fact that I drink like a fish, abuse drugs, and have, more or less, redefined promiscuity doesn’t help…much. As a result I have lost the two people in my life that mean the most to me.
- Brian Kinney, 508
Early Childhood
Brian is the youngest of two from married parents. His mother, Joan, is not employed outside the home and is devoted to her Catholic faith. His father, Jack, is employed in some unnamed blue collar job and is a union man. His older sister, Claire, is a presence but left the home and married and had children shortly thereafter. Both Brian’s parents struggle with undiagnosed and untreated alcohol use disorder. They are both abusive in their own ways. Brian suffers physical abuse at the hands of his father. He suffers emotional abuse in the form of religious trauma and neglect in the form of Joan not intervening when Brian is being hit by his father by his mother. He also grows up with the family lore that he was an unwanted child and his father asked him mother to abort him. In his understanding, it is his mother’s Catholic faith that has doomed him to this miserable life. And throughout his life, it is clear his mother cares more for outwards appearances within her church community and for his eternal soul than his happiness here on earth. He observes their marriage as a hateful one. Jack cheats on Joan and apologizes with empty gestures (bringing her flowers) and words (apologies and good behavior before reverting back to his philandering ways). He’s told repeatedly by his father that Jack should never have been a family man, that Kinney men not not designed to be family men. In other words, Kinney men are not made to be “tied down” to one partner. And in the absence of a model or understanding of an ethical nonmonogamy, Brian learns that men, if they have partners, will cheat. Brian also learns from his family that words and apologies are empty - Jack can apologize to Joan but if he never changes, what worth do his words have?
We also see from his family where his determination to earn money and be able to afford a luxurious lifestyle comes from. He is determined to avoid any suffering (failing at monogamy, struggling to pay bills) that they endured.
Adolescence
Around age 14/15 Brian meets Michael Novotny. He either moves to Pittsburgh or several junior high schools feed into one high school (this is not uncommon in the US). Michael worships him immediately - Michael is gay and Brian is cute. And then Brian defends Michael against the school bullies. Brian also meets Debbie and either meets or hears of Uncle Vic. For the first time in his life, Brian has adults who are accepting of their son being gay, he has a model of a gay man who is loved by his family (for the most part - there’s reference to a sister that rejects Vic and a grandmother who may be oblivious to her son’s sexuality). He receives mixed messages from the Novotnys. From Michael, he gets a best friend. Someone with whom he can be silly and have fun. But everything they reference from their teen years is about Mikey’s interests - the Captain Astro club for instance. What were Brian’s interests as a teen? Did anyone nurture them? In Mikey he also gets someone where he can safely explore his sexuality (Patrick Swayze). In Debbie he gets a mother figure who is a firm (albeit imperfect) ally. We don’t know when the Liberty Diner opened or when Debbie began working there, but there is a sense she was also a portal to the world of Liberty Avenue and the diner provided a sort of safe-for-teens queer space. However, Debbie also cares for her son first and foremost (as she should!). She is not Brian’s parent. When she sees Brian’s influence taking Mikey down a path of - getting in trouble at school for fighting back against bullies, sneaking out to go to Liberty Avenue, espousing an nonmonogamy ethic, experimenting with drugs and alcohol - she rightly calls him out. However, with his background, when she - a clearly loving mother who would have no reason to lie - calls him a little shit or an asshole, he believes it. There is a paradox that develops where Brian does not believe words because they are meaningless so refuses to apologize or make promises - unless those words are cruel and directed at him, especially by people he trusts.
For historical purposes, this is taking place in 1985 or 1986 - as the AIDS crisis is reaching an inflection point. The CDC (US Center for Disease Control) estimates that more people were diagnosed with AIDS than in all earlier years combined (source). It is impossible to overstate the impact this had on the queer community more generally, and on Brian more specifically. We see his unwavering commitment to using a condom even in the face of other reckless behavior. As someone who predominantly tops, he is at lower risk of contracting HIV but he cares enough about his partners to never ever fuck without one. His alcohol and drug misuse harms him and him alone, fucking without a condom harms others. Coming of age during the height of the AIDS crisis shaped Brian. We don’t know exactly when Vic seroconverts but we know that relatively shortly before the Pilot episode, Vic was on his deathbed and Debbie was nursing him and they go on that trip to Italy and max out all of Vic’s credit cards… (because those credit card statements come to him in S1) So the AIDS crisis is also front and center in this little safe(r) space Brian has found away from his childhood home. With the AIDS crisis there is also a loss of nearly a complete generation of gay men who could have provided a model for the type of relationship Brian and Justin eventually try to find for themselves. I’ll say it again AIDS WIPED OUT AN ENTIRE GENERATION. We learn from the models around us. If we are an ethnic minority, we learn about that from our parents. As queer people, we often cannot learn from our parents how to be queer. We need queer elders in our communities. Brian comes of age exactly as all those queer elders are dying and changing their lifestyles to protect themselves and their partners from a hideous disease with (at the time) no known treatment and in which the government’s inaction is actively contributing to the loss of entire communities.
And then we have the famous locker room gym teacher incident. Brian’s first (as far was we know) sexual experience was at age 14 (iirc) when he walked into the showers after soccer practice and saw his coach showering. Brian as a gay teen, gets hard, and to cover up any embarrassment about what this reveals about him (it’s the 80s in a public American HS!) gets on his knees and gives the coach a blowjob. This is the first instance of Brian using sex and his sexuality to protect himself and to empower himself. However, he is a kid and a student and he has been taken advantage of by a teacher. No matter how much Brian tells himself (believes) that he was in power in that situation, the power dynamics are always that the teacher has power. That is the reason those laws exist (and even when everyone is an adult, professors cannot sleep with their over 18 college students, nor can they sleep with their graduate students - that goes against every university’s guidelines because that power imbalance cannot be erased). Brian may not self-identify as such but he is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse.
Late Adolescence/Early Adulthood
Around 17/18 we know Brian and Mikey are sneaking into Babylon and Brian is engaging in more experimentation with his sexuality. How is this different than Justin doing the same? Well, first and foremost Justin’s was incredibly lucky that Brian was the one to take him home that first night and treat him with respect and kindness. Brian made sure he enjoyed his first time. Brian’s speech about wanting Justin to always remember this tells us that virginity, while a vile social construct, is something that can feel very important. And the first time being penetrated can set the stage for one’s expectations and beliefs about what is good and normal for future experiences. Does Brian realize this because his first time with penetrative sex was similarly good and kind or because it was the opposite?
We also know that Brian graduates high school and goes to a traditional four year university/college (per fanon it’s Carnegie Mellon where Ben is later a professor and is a prestigious university) where he meets Lindsay. Unlike, Brian, Michael attends a few semesters of a community college. Anon, I’m not sure if you’re in the US but a community (or junior) college is usually a two year college that is intended to prepare students for transferring to complete their education at a 4 year college or university. Some students just complete their Associates Degrees and do not transfer. The reason a student might do this is a) finances - community colleges are public and much less expensive than 4 year institutions (even 4 year public universities) and b) readiness - if a student’s high school grades are not good enough to get into a 4 year institution or the student personally doesn’t feel ready for college course work, attending a community college is a great place to get adjusted to college level coursework (classes tend to be smaller, especially compared with large universities). My spouse is a community college professor, nothing but respect to the community colleges. Mikey probably attended due to finances and poor grades (he is canonically not book smart). Brian comes from a similar background financially - I would find it hard to believe that Jack, who later asks his son for money, was saving for college tuition when Brian was a child. Given the lavish lifestyle Brian later leads, I find it hard to believe he took out (predatory) student loans (he also doesn’t mention them among his expenses post- Concerned Citizens for the Truth so I’m going to believe he doesn’t have them). I am going to guess that he attended a prestigious private university (in 2021-2022 tuition for one year at CMU was $58,924 and in 2023 it was $62,260 with another nearly $20k for room and meal plan) on a combination of Pell Grants (for students with exceptional financial need) and merit based scholarships (due to good grades in high school). This means that Brian, in order to gain admission and to earn scholarships to afford to go, despite all his antics at school (ahem chemistry club!), was studious enough to earn the grades needed. This is no small thing. For comparison, I attended a high school in one of the wealthiest school districts in the US and I had special counselors who helped me decide what schools to apply to, how to craft my applications to be more competitive, and I was taught explicitly ways of approaching SATs (college admissions test) that improved my scores (like test taking strategies). Basically I had every advantage. Brian had none of that. I imagine the school district that the Kinneys and Novotnys would live in, would not have all those advantages. In the US, local tax dollars pay for schools - wealthy areas have better schools as a result. It says a lot about Brian - his determination, his native intelligence, and his ability to code-switch and pass as someone who belongs as at a place like CMU - that he succeeded.
This is also the first time that he is apart from Mikey. He’s making new friends like Lindsay who come from wealth and privilege and getting a taste of that life. He is also away from Mikey’s hero worship and any pressure from Mikey (and Debbie) to date Mikey. He probably sleeps his way through the gay, bisexual, and questioning male student body. I do believe at this point he probably hadn’t instituted his “no repeats” rule but he learns that after a certain number of hook ups, expectations begin to build. He doesn’t want to be his father, so it’s safest to make sure his partners have no expectations. He learns that if people expect the least and the worst from him, he will never disappoint them.
We know that if he wasn’t before, he’s certainly experimenting with drugs in college (references to spiking the punch with ecstasy after Lindsay’s heart was broken). He is studying something that is immediately practical (we do not know if he goes onto graduate school, but my headcanon is that he does not - he would have gotten his masters degree in marketing or business and those are expensive and, again, he doesn’t seem to have student loans). I believe he studies marketing, but though general coursework, his own intelligence and curiosity, he learns enough about the arts and other areas of study to be able to pass in upper class worlds and not betray his working class roots. And to appreciate Justin’s talent. Of course.
Post College/Adulthood
He is hired by Ryder Advertising and quickly moves up the ranks. He purchases his own home (the loft) and decorates it with only the fanciest furniture and appliances. He wears designer clothes. He wants to fit in and belong to this world that is so different than where he came from.
My guess is that by the time he’s working at Ryder, he has fully become the man, the myth, the legend we meet in the pilot.
No apologies - he learned that early on from Jack, apologies are meaningless.
No regrets - life as a gay man may be difficult, but he is not going shy away from experiences just because it might make his life harder. His life has already been hard on someone else’s terms. If it’s going to be hard again, it may as well be on his own terms.
Actions matter more than words, unless those words are from someone he believes cares about him in which case, if they are negative, they are true.
Protect others, even to the detriment of yourself. People want you for what you can do for them (protect them from bullies, make them feel special for one night) not for who you are.
Brian has no model of nonmonogamy that isn’t monogamy with cheating. He cannot conceive, until Justin comes along, that he can have a primary partner and also have an open relationship.
Being a “Stud” is another status symbol, like the loft, like the Jeep, like his wardrobe.
Everything is a wall built from his childhood to protect himself from the pain he experienced and to protect others from what he believes is his destiny - to hurt others the way his father hurt his mother and him. Walls don’t just keep out others, they protect others from the (imagined) monster within.
There is a good fic on Midnight Whispers that goes into this quite a bit: Why Not with Me
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madsworld15 · 29 days
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Chapter 4 Section 2 of Heal Me, Hold Me, Make Me, Know Me.
QAF Brian/Justin. Asexual Spectrum Representation. Series Retelling AU.
Thanks always to @winderlylandchime @maryp50 and @lostcol for supporting me! Enjoy!
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Brian watched Justin leave with his bag in hand. He wanted to tell the young man that he cared about him, that they were still good. He needed to tell Justin that he was simply in a terrible headspace because he’d been forced to spend the day with his mother attending her extremely homophobic church. Brian knew all of these things should’ve been explained and that Justin would understand if he did, but his ego wouldn’t let him.
Instead, he was left in his loft alone but desperately wishing he wasn’t. For the first time in his life he hated that he wasn’t sharing his personal space with someone else. He wanted Justin to come back so much it hurt. He needed Justin almost as much as he needed air.
Woah. That’s a dangerous thought.
Brian rubbed his hand across his mouth and decided he would much rather be anywhere else right now, but he didn’t know where he could go at 3am. Most of his haunts were starting to close up shop. He needed a drink, but he also kind of wanted a bowl of warm, carb-filled pasta.
Without another thought he headed to his Jeep so he could drive over to Deb’s. He was sure that was where Justin might’ve gone too, but he wasn’t going to push things with the young blonde. No, right now he needed his mom — the only true mom he’d ever known.
She opened her door with a stern look on her face after his second rap. Without a word she let him in. Upon closing the door behind him she reached up and smacked the back of his head. Brian didn’t even complain because he knew he deserved it. The smack also let him know that she knew everything that had happened, which meant he wouldn’t have to explain himself.
Brian trudged into the kitchen where Vic sat at the table. He had a mug of tea in front of him while he picked at a slice of cake.
“Couldn’t sleep.” Vic looked up at Brian, “What’s your excuse, Kinney.”
Brian shrugged and sat down. “Take your pick.”
“Saint Joan or fucking with the one person who believes in your goodness beyond reason. Yeah I’d say either one is going to piss you off and make you look like a shithead.” Vic raised his mug to the younger man. “But we both know it’s all a self-deprecating front to keep yourself safe.”
Debbie walked into the room and gave a scoff. She crossed to the fridge and pulled out a Tupperware.
“Chicken Baked Ziti?” Debbie offered the Tupperware toward Brian who silently nodded.
She dished some into a bowl and threw it in the microwave. Brian knew from the silence that she was going to let him have it once she was ready. It was something he wasn’t looking forward to and he hoped she’d let him eat some pasta first.
A few minutes later, Debbie sat down next to him and slid the bowl of warm cheesy pasta in front of him. Brian immediately dug in and without having to ask, Debbie also placed a beer in front of him.
“I know seeing your mother is its own special brand of torture, but to take it out on Justin…” Debbie started once he was halfway done with his food.
“Stay out of it.” Brian turned to glare at her.
“Now you listen here you little shit.” Debbie wagged her finger at him. “You came to my home which gives me every right to protect that boy! I care about him. All you care about…”
Brian pushed the bowl away and reached for the beer. He knew she knew him better than anyone, but that didn’t mean he had to like it.
“Getting my dick sucked. Yes, Emmett and Justin made it very clear. Can we please talk about ANYTHING else?!”
“You seem to have forgotten that you came to my house. And I don’t want to see Justin hurt.” Debbie practically yelled at him.
Brian found his mood teetering closer to annoyance than sympathy or regret for his actions.
“Well, that’s life. Better he learn it now.” Brian shrugged, putting his wall up hoping it would stop Debbie or Vic but it didn’t.
“I know you don’t actually feel that way.” Vic muttered under his breath. Barely drawing attention to himself. Brian looked toward him with a glare.
Part of him had hoped coming here would mean comfort carbs and an understanding presence. While the other part, the part he was most at war with, hoped Debbie would read him the riot act and allow him the ability to show how awful he actually felt about his actions.
“You think you’ve got everybody fooled, don’t you? Well not me, honey. I’ve known you too long and regrettably too well.” Debbie took on a softer, more motherly tone. “And no matter how hard you try to deny it, I can tell you care as much about him as he cares about you.”
Brian bit his lip and looked over to make eye contact with the woman. He fiddled with the label on the bottle before him.
“Only you ain’t got the big hairy cajones to say it.” Debbie fixed him with a knowing stare.
“Oh well maybe I can borrow yours.” Brian gave her his best sarcastic eye roll and drank from the bottle.
“Yeah well hey, whatever it takes.” She smirked and paused before continuing. “Do admit that you love him. And I know that you do. Despite all your efforts to never let another heart touch yours. That’s assuming you have one.”
Brian leaned over and hung his head. Everything she was saying was correct and he knew it. But that didn’t make hearing it any easier.
“That little persistent kid has somehow gotten in under the wire. And that’s what’s happened, huh.” Debbie reached out and smoothed her hand over Brian’s hair. It was a level of intimacy he only allowed from a select number of people.
“Admit the truth.” Brian looked at Debbie, unsure if she was really that perceptive and was going to say what he’d been trying to avoid thinking about since Justin moved in. “You love him, don’t you?”
Instead of answering, Brian leaned his head onto his hands and let out the breath he’d been holding for the last few seconds. Debbie had proved once again that she saw deeper under his walls than he would like, but appreciated it nonetheless.
“I thought so. Then tell him. Tell him what you could never tell Michael.” And with the mention of her son, Debbie motioned her eyes up to indicate Justin was upstairs.
Brian took one more swig from the bottle, sucked in his lips, and then stood up. Vic gave him a wicked grin of mischief and encouragement. It was the most unserious thing about the whole situation and was what spurred Brian on in the end. He walked out of the kitchen and skipped up the stairs.
Upon reaching the landing, Brian paused. He knew Justin was mad at him and he wouldn’t be surprised if the young man didn’t want to see him. But, he was there already, he might as well try. He knocked on Michael’s door and his heart ached at the voice that responded.
“Debbie, I know you’re worried but I’m fine.”
Brian leaned his head against the door and sighed. He quietly responded.
“I’m not Debbie, but I’d say you don’t sound fine.”
Brian’s heart clenched at the soft sniffles he could hear from the other side.
“Brian?” Justin’s voice was tinged with sadness and hope all at once. “Haven’t you done enough?”
Brian deserved that, but it didn’t make him hate it any less.
“Can I please come in so we can talk. I know I said some things I shouldn’t have.”
Brian stepped back to avoid falling forward when Justin opened the door suddenly.
“Careful, that sounds perilously close to an apology.” Justin bit his lip and gave a half smile while looking up through his lashes.
“Yeah, well I’m not totally opposed to apologies when I’m wrong.” Brian gave a shy smile. “I asked you to move in because of your attack, but that’s not why I want you to stay.”
Justin stepped away from the door letting Brian in. The brunette watched as the blonde worked through Brian’s statement in his head. It was clear that the younger man wanted to forgive him but was also wary of being made a fool by doing so.
“Okay so you want me to stay, but something has to change.” Justin turned to look Brian in the eye, “I won’t go back to feeling invisible.”
Brian couldn’t find his voice so he simply nodded until he could.
“This doesn’t mean we are suddenly married. Because I don’t do that shit.” Brian reached out to put a hand on Justin’s shoulder. “It means that I like your company and I want to be with you. I’ve gotten used to having you around that I don’t particularly mind it anymore.”
“Wow. You are really selling me on your commitment.” Justin smirked and gave a small cheeky giggle.
“Watch yourself.” Brian volleyed back.
Justin stepped closer to Brian and more into his touch. “So what does this mean for us?”
“It means I promise I won’t ever bring a trick back to the loft again.”
“Okay.” Justin nodded, his eyes serious.
“Also, if I’m out late just know that I’m doing exactly what I want to be doing. And when I come home…” Brian paused, the words catching in his throat. “I’ll also be doing exactly what I want to be doing. Coming home to you.”
Justin nodded, and then he leaned in for a kiss. Once he pulled away he gave his response.
“I want some things too. You can have sex with anyone you want as long as it’s not more than once, and no names or numbers exchanged.”
Brian nodded easily, “Deal.”
“And I want you to promise that no matter what you are doing you always come home by 2.”
Brian’s gaze bore into Justin’s “By 4.”
“Three.”
Brian turned away from Justin slightly and then came back to him in resignation. “Fine, by 3.”
Justin pulled him in for another searing kiss before saying more.
“And one more thing.” Brian looked at Justin with sincerity while his brain argued that all these rules were more than he could muster.
“You don’t kiss anyone on the mouth. Except me.” Justin quirked his eyebrow as if challenging Brian’s ability to agree to all these stipulations.
Brian gave a small shake of his head, smirked, and then grabbed Justin’s face in both his hands and planted a deep kiss on his lips. Brian put all his nonstated love and emotions into that kiss. He wanted to be sure Justin understood he would follow these rules and any others if it meant keeping Justin.
After they pulled apart, Brian found himself grabbing Justin’s hand and leading him toward the bed.
“Can I stay here with you tonight?” Brian asked in a small voice.
“I’m not that kind of girl.” Justin responded, his tongue in his cheek.
Brian tucked his lips in as he smiled at Justin. He knew that in this moment he could be vulnerable and Justin wouldn’t judge him for it. So, he squeezed the hand that held Justin’s before he responded.
“I just don’t want to be alone tonight.”
Justin reached up to cup Brian’s cheek with his free hand. “Then come sleep with me.”
Then they exchanged a kiss, chaste but still filled with emotion. Brian leaned his forehead on Justin’s and closed his eyes. With a sigh he let go and pulled off his shirt and stepped out of his shoes and jeans.
The two got into Michael’s old twin sized bed, practically lying on top of each other, but somehow making it work. At this point, Brian’s nakedness didn’t make Justin uncomfortable. However, Brian was conscientious enough to make sure his thigh was all that made contact with Justin.
“I had to sit next to my mother today as her priest spouted off about loving your fellow man. And her interpretation of that was to tell me how sexual deviants were going to hell. She didn’t say homosexuals, but it was heavily implied.” Brian finally whispered to the dark room as the silence between them got to be too much.
“Your mom sounds a treat.” Justin muttered, his hand finding Brian’s and grabbing hold.
“That’s Saint Joan.” Brian sighed as he placed a soft kiss to the top of the young man’s head.
“I’m sorry.” Justin replied. His voice was filled with kindness and it made Brian appreciate the blonde that much more.
“That’s life. You can’t choose your parents.” Brian shrugged.
Nothing else was said between them as Brian and Justin both slipped into dreamland.
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greenteaafter12am · 11 months
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Made one for Stede, so Ed gets one too
End of season 1 Ed where he pretends he's over Stede but he's secretly not
AC/DC - “Back in Black”
The Rolling Stones - “Paint it, Black”
Los Bravos - “Black is Black”
Maktub - “Just Like Murder”
“I Hate Myself for Loving You” - Joan Jett & the Blackhearts
“Turn to Hate” - Orville Peck
“Stormy Weather” - Etta James
“Ship to Wreck” - Florence +The Machine
“Losing My Religion” - R.E.M.
“What Have I Done to Deserve This” - Pet Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield
“Life is Not the Same” - James Blake
“SOS” - ABBA
“Reach Out” - Sleater-Kinney
“Don’t Leave Me This Way” - Thelma Houston
“Back to Black” - Amy Winehouse
“Wreckage” - Best Coast
“Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me” - Low
“Waving a White Flag” - The Smile
“I Thought You Were My Boyfriend” - The Magnetic Fields
“Perfect Day” - Lou Reed
“Avalanche” - Leonard Cohen
“Leggy Blonde” - Flight of the Conchords
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Honestly, Jason Momoa is the only Duncan actor who could make me believe that Duncan is a successful manwhore. I also like Zendaya as Chani, though I picture her with shorter, redder hair. I usually picture the 1984 version when I think of Liet and the Harkonnens (like that they're redheads like Jessica), but I like both the David Lynch and Denis Villeneuve version actors for all the characters overall, but I HATE the casting for Sci-Fi channel miniseries Paul (and the series' hideous Bene Gesserit outfits). I don't have a specific Alia fancast but she gives Laura Kinney from X-Men vibes. Also, do you have any specific fancasts for Dune characters that haven't made an onscreen appearance yet or ever?
hmmm yeah overall i do like the cast of the adaptations besides the miniseries. oh dear i have so much in my brain let's ee
for Alia i've had so many actresses in mind over the years, i know Natalia Dyer is a fan favorite because she looks like she could be related to Timothée Chalamet, but personally i think she has such a kind and nice aura, i'd prefer someone with a more alien or unsettling beauty. I've though of Alia Taylor-Joy, but also Hunter Schafer and recently i started to dig Ivanna Sachno a lot after seeing her in Ahsoka! Look wise, one of the people who resemble the most Alia the way i imagine her is Victoria De Angelis from the rock band Maneskin sdjsdhfshdf don't ask me why, she gives off alia vibes so much
i've also thought of Taylor Russell to play Hwi Noree, Laura Birn or Jessica Chastain for Odrade, i haven't seen her in much stuff but if she could nail her character then i'd love to see Nicola Coughlan as Lucilla, Joan Chen or Michelle Yeoh as Taraza, and thenn that's probably it lmao i'm not really good at fancasting
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one-album-wonders · 1 year
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March Madness of American Rock Bands
After some hotly contested polls in the group stages of March Madness of American Rock Bands, we have our 64 bands that will compete in the knockout rounds for the title of greatest American rock band! Going forward bands will play head to head in win-or-go-home polls. Ties will be broken by the percentage of votes each band received in the immediate previous round, and will continue to go back to earlier rounds as necessary until the tie is broken.
SCHEDULE
All polls will be posted around noon EDT and run for 24 hours.
March 15-18: ROUND OF 64 (8 polls per day)
March 19-20: ROUND OF 32 (8 polls per day)
March 22-23: SWEET SIXTEEN (4 polls per day)
March 24-25: ELITE EIGHT (2 polls per day)
March 27-28: FINAL FOUR (1 poll per day)
March 30: THIRD PLACE
March 31: CHAMPIONSHIP
CONTESTANTS
Bands that finished first in the Regional Finals are seeded 1-32 with second place bands seeded 33-64. They are then seeded by the percentage of the vote they received. And yes, I do realize the irony that one of the bands from the Americans Abroad group that is only 2/5's American is the top seed.
1 Fleetwood Mac 2 The White Stripes 3 Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers 4 Simon & Garfunkel 5 The Temptations 6 Earth, Wind, & Fire 7 The Beach Boys 8 R.E.M. 9 Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band 10 My Chemical Romance 11 Nine Inch Nails 12 Talking Heads 13 Green Day 14 Imagine Dragons 15 Oingo Boingo 16 Paramore 17 Evanescence 18 The B-52s 19 Pixies 20 Aerosmith 21 Fall Out Boy 22 Nirvana 23 Jefferson Airplane 24 The Foo Fighters 25 Bon Jovi 26 The Strokes 27 Buffalo Springfield 28 The Doors 29 The Byrds 30 Chicago 31 The Turtles 32 Garbage 33 The Killers 34 Violent Femmes 35 They Might Be Giants 36 The Velvet Underground 37 The Supremes 38 Creedence Clearwater Revival 39 Rage Against the Machine 40 The Jackson Five 41 Alice in Chains 42 Sleater-Kinney 43 Joan Jett and the Blackhearts 44 The Monkees 45 Beastie Boys 46 Hall & Oates 47 Outkast 48 The Cars 49 The Carpenters 50 Red Hot Chili Peppers 51 Neutral Milk Hotel 52 Jimmy Eat World 53 Kiss 54 The Cramps 55 The Jimi Hendrix Experience 56 The Band 57 Slipknot 58 The Replacements 59 The Yeah Yeah Yeahs 60 Heart 61 Public Enemy 62 Funkadelic 63 Matchbox 20 64 Destiny's Child
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thenerdsofcolor · 2 years
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Here's All the Details on Lifetime's 'Santa Bootcamp'
Here's All the Details on Lifetime's 'Santa Bootcamp' @TheRitaMoreno @lifetimetvpr #SantaBootcamp @lifetimetv #ItsAWonderfulLifetime
Lifetime is adding EGOT award winner Rita Moreno and returning favorite Marissa Jaret Winokur to their 2022 “It’s a Wonderful Lifetime” slate! They will be starring in Santa Bootcamp with Emily Kinney and Justin Gaston. Directed by Melissa Joan Hart, it will also mark a holiday reunion for her and Winokur after previously being in A Very Nutty Christmas together. (more…)
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