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#it's so romantic. not necessarily of romance though but yeah
noxtivagus · 2 years
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thinking about drk quests again the "i love you" always gets me every time
#🌙.rambles#[ ffxiv. ]#love means a lot to me if it. isn't obvious#not necessarily romantic love; there's so many kinds of love#self-love's one kind :<#lvl 80 being called 'our closure'#'i love you more than youll ever know' THAT'S UNFAIR. REALLY UNFAIR#& i think often of. the other stuff too like#idk the way they portray love in drk is just so special to me. it means a lot to me#it's so romantic. not necessarily of romance though but yeah#i really. should check out the jpn translations more often too#i get really nervous omg they really make me emotional#theres a lot in drk that i personally vv much relate to#i think i mentioned something like this before#but the way i often view the world. hmmm no like it genuinely varies but one way is#i tend to romanticize things (while still holding unto reality though of course. i know what's fiction in my head n what's not)#that means though the way i love is. really deep. since while i've always been creative n love stories n all#i'm also on the intelligent side that's more practical n realistic? so love for me is very whole;#something that's beautiful like stories but also very much rooted in reality#i don't know what i'm writing rn i didn't sleep properly ;;#i saw a post on twt hehe n it made me think of drk again yeah ><#lvl 60-70 was. hmmm#remembrance. regret. self-forgiveness.#i rlly shld check out the jpn translations though bcs they localized it differently in en#r those.. r the proper terms.. oh my god my vocab dies when i'm sleepy#'i love you more than youll ever know' is an incredibly personal sentiment to me. for different forms of love#i'm writing this on my laptop rn i literally just opened my phone to check some of my old rbs#ugh drk in jpn is v soft n gentle. & lvl 80 w the nymeia lily. goodbyes#'if you think the flower that blossoms at the very end of its life is beautiful / even a little / then i tell you this: please survive.'#it's so tender n affectionate n.. it's just so filled with love. it brings me to tears often. it. reminds me of my meaning in life
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antimony-medusa · 8 months
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Gonna be honest with you though if someone outright says “don’t ship my character with other people” or something to that extent regarding smut or whatever I don’t think there should be any ambiguity
I get your point about the nature of fanfic being inherently encroaching upon people’s images so that levity should be extended to otherwise uncommon avenues but I really believe hardline boundaries should be respected, end of, no discussion. If I see people violating creators’ boundaries for their characters Or themselves (and these can be intertwined, it’s not up to the audience to pick apart their boundaries, cuz I’ve seen people try to do that) I’m not going to judge them fairly and I feel like neither should you.
Lines can be crossed and intimacy (not even necessarily romantic!) is a very different monster than the other avenues of storytelling because of how it involves real life relationships seeping into character relationships. Its’s uncommon for people to be like “I wrote A’s character being tortured because I feel like A is tortured in real life” but they Can and Often do that with ship work. So I don’t know, I feel like you’re not affording this the right nuance.
Alright, so, this is another post I'm gonna slap with a discourse and long post warning right away, buckle in.
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and this is not an uncommon opinion to have! It's still the opinion of twitter/x so far as I know, and I think it's probably the opinion of the bulk of dsmp fans here, as well. I know my posts get notes once they start circulating in hermitblr, but I don't kid myself that I have the majority view. I am posting to explain my views expressly because I know a lot of people don't agree with me!
And in this case we do have a difference of opinion. There's two sort of points as I see it in your posts— we have hardline boundaries about shipping/nsfw from some people, and everyone in the fandom should be abiding by those no exceptions or be thrown out of the fandom; and we have shipping boundaries but not boundaries for other things because shipping is uniquely boundary-crossing and terrible and invasive, in contrast to anything else we can do in fandom.
Taking the second part first, I just don't think that's true. Let's not forget, boundaries discourse started with SMPLive and SMPronpa, and it was not the shipping that caused the discussion, it was the death games. The first real fandom reckoning we had with the notion of boundaries as mcyt fandom was over gore and murder and portraying people in violent ways. Shipping was barely a blip on the radar. The way the discourse has developed now, shipping is framed as the absolute worst thing anyone could ever do with your public image, and everything else is fine, but that is not the case for everyone. Recently the Pirates SMP creators were asked repeatedly for their boundaries (bothered on twitter, really) until they gave them and thus we saw people being fine with shipping but not wanting family dynamic, or being against both shipping and gore, or being fine with shipping but not wanting to be gender bent or trans headcanoned, etc. Not everyone feels the same way about the same things, despite the us-american cultural viewpoint that romance and sexualization is uniquely bad but gore and torture is fine, that everything else is fine.
Like, if we're looking at DSMP, I think there are a lot of creators who would feel just as strongly if not stronger about fics in which their character died of a terminal illness than they would about a fic in which they kiss someone, for understandable reasons. But I see those tropes in the tags regularly!
I think if we are honest with ourselves, if we are going to hardline boundaries about things that are uniquely invasive or bad to do to a creator's character with the view that we are putting all of this up for the creator's approval, we need to accept that this excludes us from writing anything where a character is abusive or is tortured or dies of a terminal illness or is psychologically broken or is age regressed or is neurodivergent or is queer if the cc is straight or trans if the cc is cis or cis if the cc is trans or straight if they're gay— the list of things that would be weird to do in the face of the real guy is really long. And it has most of our favourite tropes on it!
I love writing autistic philza. It would be really fuckin' weird to go up to Philza and tell him about how I write his character as whumped and autistic. Come on now. (But that's within boundaries, so that's— fine? I really don't think it's fine!)
Which is why my stance is that we should be thinking critically about these things, and keeping the fandom seperate from the creators. Some of these things are just not for the creators. They're fine but they shouldn't go on twitter. Y'know?
The idea that shipping draws uniquely on the real person and leads to invasive behaviour but nothing else does— that nobody does "I wrote A being tortured because I think A is tortured in real life"— Look. I have been in the fandom a long time. I remember how all the abused tommy narratives fed right into people assuming his family in real life were abusive— and talking about this on twitter! Where he and his family could see! People did this with WIlbur and Techno too!
I remember people reading about trans tommy and then truthing that the creator either was transmasc or was going to come out as transfemme any day now, publically, on twitter and in his chat. I have seen people she/her tubbo to his face on twitter, with fancams. I have been in chat when people who have clearly assigned Phil "dad" start asking WILDLY invasive things in TTS. If you think that shipping is the only fandom behaviour that can lead to people drawing directly from the streamers for their work and treating the creators weirdly about it, you simply have not been paying attention.
The way the fandom insists on treating benchtrio as children despite the fact that they're almost twenty and viciously attacking their friends for treating them as adults and chiding tommy and tubbo and ranboo for inappropriate behaviour. The list goes ON.
So. The recieved DSMP wisdom is that we should TTS the streamers to check if it's okay if we write a fic in which they die of cancer. We should DM them on instagram to ask if it's okay if we write them as a gender or sexual identity they don't share. We should show up in their twitter mentions to ask if it's okay if we write them as a physically abusive parent.
No????????
My view on that is that it is frankly bizzare it is that we have decided that "asking creators for detailed instructions regarding porn or gore" (especially in TTS! When they're fucking at WORK and can't step away! Stop doing this to the hermits!) is normal and fine and responsible but "post your shit in appropriate places and leave the creators out of it" will make you a monster.
Once again, the experience of someone coming up and saying "i think of you as age regressed" and someone saying "i found this fic where you're age regressed" and someone saying "can I write a fic where you're age regressed" is not that different. In all cases you know that the person has been thinking about it and putting it out there, and in all cases you didnt seek out this information, it was brought to you. In all cases it's weird. Just do not bring this information up to them!
If you just think about it for a while, you see that there is an entire host of things that would be weird to force into the view of a creator, especially when you consider that half the time we got these clips from TTS information when we have no idea if the person answering knew the context of what they were being asked, if they were specifically aware of the creator/cc divide that the fandom works with, or if they felt pressured into it. Oh yeah, let's take a TTS clip from Tubbo when it was 2 in the morning for him and he was deep in a minecraft mod when someone asked him about alters and delusions and he was like "oh you mean like— when they can't help it? I guess that's fine." That definately counts as freely given, reversible, informed, enthusiastic and specific consent to show him anything we want at all times forever. That's never going to make him uncomfortable.
Think a little here.
So I think there's a lot of the fandom that we should not be putting up for the approval of the creators, and if we don't have a firm answer on if they would like potential edge cases, we should probably be thinking about it and keeping it away from them (and I would err on the side of caution), we should NOT be showing up in the TTS to ask them about narratives in which they're institutionalized, or making them a GOP conservative in fiction, or if Wilbur was canon about seeing them as a bottom, or whatever bizzare thing someone is cooking up now. Honestly if you think to yourself "I don't know if the creator would like seeing this", I would be much more comfortable if the two choices we were picking between there were "simply don't write it" or "write it but keep it away from them", and "harass the creator for an answer on this subject and only write it if they say yes" never entered the equation at all.
And to return to your first point, if we already have a class of fiction that we are keeping away from the creators because basic intellectual curiosity would show that it would be weird to show someone, I don't think it's the end of the world to go "okay, creator doesn't like NSFW, so we also keep the NSFW away from them, keep this shit off twitter, block them if you create it, don't show it to them" and then we archive lock it and continue on our little weirdo on the internet ways.
Now, I don't expect to convince you of this, the phrasing of your post does not indicate that you're open to discussion on this topic. That's fine. Nobody has to agree with me. But I grew up conservative christian, and I have already had people try and get me to throw people out of the community for their perceived sins where I was like "well, I really don't think this is that bad", and I'm really resistant to being forced to do that again. I don't think it's a healthy way to run a fandom, to be shunning people for what they're doing in fiction. Harassing creators in chat? Sure, I will block them from my events as untrustworthy. That's hurting someone in the real world. Writing something that I don't vibe with privately on the archive for an audience of 50 people? That is not doing harm to real people. As long as they're not showing it to the creators, I don't count that as offensive.
How's that for nuance.
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cobragardens · 8 months
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Holy Kittens, Y'all: My Favorite Good Omens Moment Has Gotten EVEN MORE ROMANTIC
Okay so I wrote this post about my favorite moment in Good Omens, and the stuff people are pointing out in the reblogs and comments is blowing my freaking mind, and I HAVE to show you how beautifully this all fits together, like I am flailing at my desk about this.
@vidavalor points out this gif from @soft-ange-aziraphale [Source]:
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Here it is in sequence (gifs 1-4 from Fuck Yeah Good Omens):
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I can't stop laughing over Aziraphale's smile, which shows, as @quoththemaiden says, that he's "utterly delighted with himself" and knows perfectly well that he's minxing Crowley; and this tiny extension of the moment convinces me even more that Crowley is desperately fighting a smile himself here.
Actually there's a lot in @quoththemaiden's comment that's insightful and well-put:
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Totes agree with all of this.
And then. AND THEN!
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I knew Crowley was trying to communicate something with this Shakespeare line, but I didn't know what until @paperbunny and @musingsofmaisie put it out there: Crowley is complimenting Aziraphale here, telling him he's enjoying being in Aziraphale's company, telling him his humor worked.
Remember how I keep banging on about how much equivocation Crowley does? This is more equivocation. In 1601, Richard Burbage was 34 years old, so age hasn't had the chance to wither his infinite variety yet. The stupidity of demons and the ignorance of angels regarding the human aging process prevent surveillance from noticing the poor applicability of this line to Burbage, but since the first half of the line fits Aziraphale (who does not age at all) more than Burbage (who is merely not yet old) it stands a chance of indicating to Aziraphale that Crowley is speaking about him. And the underlying true meaning of this equivocal statement would be A DIRECT RESPONSE TO MY FAVORITE MOMENT: Even though I have known you so long, you still surprise and delight me.
(Crowley's Antony & Cleopatra line also accomplishes something else important: it gets William Shakespeare to go away so they can speak privately, because Shakespeare doesn't want them to see him writing it down.)
A Dip Into Speculation
I don't think the evidence for it is binding enough to say for sure, because the evidence is really just that it fits together so nicely and lines up so well with A&C's coded romantic messages in 1793; the (pretty overt, actually, I mean damn) romance in 1827; the size and nature of the fight in 1867; the yeah, really overt romance in 1941; and in 1967; and yes okay now that I'm thinking about it the whole series, but I have this View about how the rest of the 1601 scene goes.
And in fact there is Word of Gods that could be interpreted as evidence against this little pet headcanon I have, though it doesn't necessarily have to be:
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Here's my assertion: Aziraphale volunteers to go to Edinburgh for Crowley. Crowley cheats the coin toss to accept Aziraphale's offer and to keep up appearances as a demon. Rather than making a deal with (or asking a favor of) an angel, he's 'cheating' him (without the angel's knowledge, but with his consent), which "moves the dials" of evil a bit and would also make Aziraphale appear less at fault if this instance of the Arrangement is ever discovered by Heaven.
This can coexist with Gaiman's statement, above, that it doesn't even occur to Aziraphale that Crowley cheats the toss. THEE ongoing leitmotif of Aziraphale's view of Crowley is that he thinks of Crowley as much more genuinely evil and much less in need of ways to create cover as evil than Crowley actually is.
(Which is interesting, given that he also clearly thinks that Crowley is not as evil as he pretends to be, that he is and wants to do good, and that he deserves to be an angel again. [There is a whoooole nother essay slowly curdling in the churn in my head about how Aziraphale is obliged to practice doublethink and how that stunts his personal development because that's what happens when people aren't free.])
Here's what I mean when I say Aziraphale volunteers.
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Does Aziraphale ask in this tone because he is actually feeling suspicious and curt, or because he has to sound suspicious and curt? He could be perfectly willing to do Crowley a favor and would still need to sound the way he does. It's difficult for me to believe this guy--
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--or this guy--
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--are really all that bothered by the idea that Crowley might want something from him.
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Crowley's response sounds like a(n unconvincing) protest of innocence. Maybe it is. But he doesn't disagree with the premise on which Aziraphale based his question, which means Aziraphale now has confirmation: Crowley called the meeting because he wants to ask Aziraphale to do him a favor.
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Close your eyes and listen to Sheen's delivery of this line. The way he says it is so soft it's got no judgy angelic sting to it at all. Is this really a prissy answer to Crowley's semi-rhetorical question? Or is Aziraphale using the cover of a prissy answer to ask Crowley, Is what you want related to the no-good you're up to, i.e., demon work?
Either way, Crowley answers:
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Is Crowley making a demonic jibe at Aziraphale in return to "You're up to no good," or is he telling Aziraphale, Yes, what I want from you is related to my work, and to your work, esp. what you've got on right now?
Aziraphale volunteers some information about his schedule and what it is he's got on right now.
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--he says, and the velvety way Crowley says "Ohhh," tells us--and could tell Aziraphale--that Crowley already knows this. In this coded communication I'm suggesting, Crowley's tone on "Oh" confirms to Aziraphale that the thing he wants help with does indeed have to do with Aziraphale's trip to Edinburgh.
So Aziraphale gives Crowley his travel details: Yeah, I have a couple of blessings and a minor miracle to perform. It's going to suck; I have to ride a horse.
Crowley's like, yeah, riding horses does suck. You have my sympathies. (Phrasing it as an insult to God: "Major design flaw if you ask me.") And then he says, I have to go to Edinburgh too this week. Tempt a clan leader into stealing some cattle.
And here's where I think Aziraphale volunteers to do Crowley's Edinburgh job for him:
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If, as I propose, Aziraphale understands already at this point that Crowley is asking him to take Crowley's Edinburgh temptation, then this response tells Crowley he's willing to do so.
And then they have a little bit of kayfabe theater and a little bit of miscommunication between themselves. Crowley suggests Aziraphale take Crowley's Edinburgh job. Aziraphale protests "You cannot actually be suggesting what I infer you're implying," even though, as Crowley immediately points, out, they've now done this dozens of times.
Now, obviously Aziraphale is pretending innocence here with "You cannot actually be suggesting," etc. But he's not pretending innocence to Crowley. He can't be: Crowley knows about the dozens of other times just like Aziraphale does. So the protest of innocence is for surveillance; it's the spirit, not the letter, of the protest itself that's genuine: I am reluctant about this.
And Crowley misses it.
He reads the surface layer of the equivocation, the Heavenly pearl-clutching; and the surface layer is where he argues. "We've done it before," he points out. "Dozens of times now. The Arrangement--"
But Aziraphale, visibly frightened and looking around, cuts him off. "Don't say that." Getting caught in an Arrangement would be much, much worse than getting caught in a one-off deal.
Why is this suddenly a problem? says Crowley. You know we've been getting away with this; you know they don't check up.
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It's not pearl-clutching at all; Aziraphale is worried for Crowley's safety.
When Crowley says--
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--is his tone half wheedling and half impatient because that's how he feels, or because it must sound like that? Is it soft only out of courtesy to the other people in the Globe?
There's no difference to the outcome of this scene or the story as a whole whether this romantic interpretation of the Edinburgh bickering is correct, because we've already got a solid base of evidence that the characters have romantic feelings for each other and show each other affection and care in this scene. In my opinion this interpretation fits the tone of the rest of the Globe scene better than only the face-value interpretation. What Gaiman and Mackinnon say about Crowley cheating the coin toss and Aziraphale not being aware of it can still easily apply.
While these three statements together aren't enough evidence to convict, so to speak, if my initial argument about the interpretation of "Buck up!" and Crowley's reaction is correct--and the cool stuff other people have found and pointed out suggests it is AND explains Crowley's Antony & Cleopatra line--this reading of the Edinburgh bickering is, if not ironclad, at least valid.
And holy shit, people, that makes this scene romantic af from beginning to end. I could not have asked for a better little gift from my fellow humans. 🤯I have such a better understanding of the entire 1601 scene because people from anywhere with an Internet connection sat down and spent their time sharing their ideas, and it just makes the lit-nerd lobe of my brain so happy. I love you all, you romantics and nerds and perverts.
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gay-dorito-dust · 11 months
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Maybe some fluff with Hobie when the main trop is that they are soulmates?
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I honestly had no idea where I was going with this, it’s all over the place.
What’s a soulmate?
It’s a…it’s like a best friend but more.
It’s the one person who knows you better then anyone else, it’s someone who makes you a better person. Actually they don’t make you a better person, you do that yourself, because they inspire you.
A soulmate Is someone who you can carry with you forever. It’s the one person who knew you and accepted you, believed in you before anybody else did. Or when no one else would, and no matter what happens you will always love them; Nothing can ever change that. - Dawson’s Creek (never watched it but have heard the ‘what’s a soulmate?’ Clip more times then I can count.’
The term soulmates had been so firmly interchangeable with romantic connotations that many often forget that being soulmates with someone doesn’t necessarily mean that it was remotely romantic in the first place.
You can be soulmates with that one friend who’s stood by you through thick and thin, a family member, or a co-worker that you get along with very well, so much so that you might as well be the same person.
With that out of the way, let’s move onto yours and Hobie’s relationship.
To begin with, you and Hobie both thought that the idea of soulmates wasn’t something you’d fully put your faith into as to believe that you and someone else were tethered to one another, expected to love one another against your better judgment.
What if your soulmate was a twat? A down right godawful human being? What then? Are you still expected to love them even though everything they’ve ever done was morally and ethically wrong?
Fanfics, romance books and movies never bother to divulge into these topics, which is why you never truly trusted the so called ‘fairy tale ending.’
Soulmates didn’t exist, and even if they did, in what right mind would you have in ever wanting one?
‘What would you do if you found out you had a soulmate?’ You remember telling Hobie one day as you were both hanging out on a rooftop somewhere just a little ways of the pub you always relegated to at the weekends, or whenever Hobie and his band had a gig there.
‘I’d tell them that they’re full of shit and shouldn’t be believing in fairy tales, for they’ll always lie to you.’ Hobie replied, looking over at you from over his beloved guitar that he was previously tuning before laying it carefully down by his side. His actions made you chuckle as you sat up to stretch your arms over your head, grunting. ‘yeah, if you ever had a soulmate it’d be your damn guitar with how careful you are with it.’
Hobie gives you a good shove in the arm, ‘oh fuck off, what about you then?’
‘Hmm?’ You hummed.
‘What would you do if you found your soulmate?’ He echoed your question and for the first time, you didn’t know how to respond because if you had it your way, you’d would’ve wanted Hobie as your soulmate because in your eyes there was no one better then Hobie Brown. For Hobie was the best friend that always believed in you when you and seemingly everybody else you have ever met in your life have long since given up on you. But not Hobie, never Hobie.
Even during the times where you wanted him to leave you alone, he would always come back a good hour or two after with your favourite snacks in tow before he sits himself down next to you and offer to listen to what’s been eating away at you. When asked why, Hobie would look at you as though you grew a second head -even though you were quite certain in your friendship that Hobie wouldn’t give two shits if you were to grow a second head- before responding with; ‘you’re my mate and I need to be on the look out for you, even if you don’t want me to, I will, because there ain’t no way I’m letting you sit this one out on your own; we’re sitting out problems out together from now on.’ Hobie then proceeds to tuck you tightly into his side. ‘So don’t go hiding shit form me from now on, yeah?’
From then on you never once hide anything from Hobie; until one morning you found a tattoo or a marking of sorts in the shape of a electric guitar just on the inside of your wrist; Now this wasn’t just any old guitar, you knew the shape and model of the guitar like the back of your hand and from that morning onwards, you had been keeping your soulmate tattoo/mark covered by wearing long sleeved shirts or hoodies because you know if you were to conceal it in any other way and Hobie caught wind. You’d be fucked on a multitude of levels.
What you didn’t know what that Hobie was in the same predicament as you in regards of having a random tattoo/mark he doesn’t remember getting suddenly appearing on his body. He knew what it meant the moment he saw it, and ever since he’s been trying to find a seamless way to integrate it into a conversation with you that wouldn’t seem too out of left field. Hobie knows he’s a confident bloke but to drop this type of thing on you unexpectedly as though it was nothing, wasn’t the way he wanted to go about things you both adamantly shitted on previously.
Hobie also has a sneaking suspicion that this was why you had brought up the topic of soulmates when you did; because you also had a mark of your own. Ever since you’ve both been tucked away on the rooftop, he’s noticed how every so often you would subconsciously pull down the fabric of your hoodie/long sleeved shirt as though you were trying to hide something. but even with all your attempts of hiding your Mark, Hobie could often sometimes see glimpses of the neck of the guitar practically wink at him knowingly.
‘I dunno,’ you shrugged, ‘what can I do in that situation? I can’t say that I love them because I’m fated to them-‘
‘Why not?’ Hobie interjected.
You shrug again, ‘I want to at least get to know the person outside of the whole being my soulmate before I start saying anything in regards to liking them, never mind loving them.’ Once again Hobie caught you pulling down the fabric of your sleeve out of the corner of his eye before casting his eyes back to you.
‘What if your soulmate is closer then you thought?’ He asked as you furrowed your brows as you looked at him as a weird feeling befell you. It felt as though Hobie knew something you didn’t and your hand immediately went to your covered wrist, feeling over exposed all of a sudden as a flurry of thoughts rushed to the forefront of your mind all at once, overwhelming you to the point where it became hard to not only swallow but breath as well.
Hobie knew
He knew
Were the only thoughts that stuck out to you in that moment and in that moment, you honestly didn’t know what to do now that you were caught. You cursed yourself for not knowing any better as Hobie was as smart as they came but before you could start running your mouth with excuses, Hobie lifted one of his spiked cuffs slightly up his arm to show you his tattoo/mark.
However a question still remained unanswered; where do you go from here now that you found out that your best friend was your soulmate?
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eetherealgoddess · 4 months
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ꨄYou Get Meꨄ
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Oneshot - Yandere Reader Until The Others Turn Yandere Au
Sano Manjiro, Hanemiya Kazutora, Sanzu Haruchiyo, & Haitani Brothers x Reader
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Not fully proofread!
MY TR FANDOM WORKS ARE ONLY ON TUMBLR, AO3, AND WATTPAD UNDER EETHEREALGODDESS! REPORT IF YOU SEE IT POSTED UNDER ANYONE ELSE BUT ME!!!
Japanese language is red
I apologize if I get any Japanese etiquette or culture wrong, I literally have to research the culture for some of my fandom stories so if anything is wrong, please excuse my ignorance.
Notice:
✩Y/n is 18+. I picture her as a black female but you can see her however.
✩Some parts of the story may not be realistic or factual. After all, this is a work of fiction.
✩Although it's a dark 'romance,' I do not condone any of the behavior displayed.
✩Dark content such as: gore, violence, triggering topics, graphic scenes, vulgar language, explicit sexual content, etc.
✩There will be scenes that involve non con and/ or dubcon so don’t read if that makes you uncomfortable
✩That being said, this story is for 18+ only.
Enjoy!
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You Get Me
“Shit, shit, shit!” Y/n paces back and forth in her basement, her hands rubbing her arms viciously as she bites her lip.
“What do I do now?” She hisses, tears of frustration almost falling as she stares at the unconscious men with their arms and legs bound by rope, leaning against the wall. Her hands move to the back of her neck, sweat running down her skin as she hyperventilates. She whines as she crouches and bends over, covering her face before hitting her head as she curses herself.
“Y/n, what the fuck is wrong with you?” She growls. “They’re either gonna kill you or you’re going to jail you dumbass!”
She just couldn’t take it any longer. When she first set eyes on each of them, she couldn’t help but fall in love. She knew, since the beginning as she stalked them and observed everything about them, that they belonged together. So that’s why it really hurt when she got rejected by each of them for not being their type, seemingly the reasons not being physical but more so they thought she was boring, some saying it nicer than others.
She even followed them to their favorite spots a few times to show that she could have a good time as well though none of them seemed to notice her. It became so frustrating. So excruciatingly painful that they just couldn’t see her the way she wanted them to. It was even more terrible when she watched their hookups and the romantic partners they went through, even going as far as vomiting when she saw the sex. It’s as if they were mocking her, shoving it in her face even though she was the one invading their privacy.
“I’m so stupid.” She groans as she sits in a chair at an old desk, her fingers holding her forehead up as she closes her eyes and rubs her temples.
“What the hell is this?” The sound of Mikey’s voice waking up caused her to look up at all of them. She could only stare in awe as they all came to the surface, eyes slowly opening as they took in their surroundings.
“You again.” Sanzu says as they make eye contact.
“U-uh yeah, haha me again. So, I know this is a little unexpected for you guys, and trust me it really wasn’t planned, but…!”
“So, you did this on a whim?” Kazutora questions.
“Not necessarily, but…”
“Someone can’t handle rejection.” Ran eyes her with the same bored expression he used when he rejected her.
“How pathetic.” Rin says with the same expression. Her eyebrows furrowed, everyone looking over when her fist hit the table, dust flying everywhere.
“Shut the fuck…! Okay, look. I know that this is bad, okay. I just… I…”
“Don’t tell me you don’t know what to do, Y/n.” Sanzu rolls his eyes.
“That’s what it looks like. Maybe you should’ve planned better.” Rin replies.
“Come on guys, clearly this is the best she could do.” Kazutora chuckles.
“Can you hurry up so I can get Dorayaki? This is boring.” Mikey huffs.
“Awe. Look, she’s getting embarrassed.” Ran laughs.
She could only look at them with a warm face, tears building up, not just because of their words, but because they think of her as a measly joke. The more they talk, the more she questions her own relation to them. Doubting herself and her feelings as the stupidity lingers, causing her to walk out of the basement to get some fresh air.
“Holy fuck they’re mean.” She sniffs as she wipes her eyes, walking in to the bathroom.
What did you expect? You kidnapped them after they made it clear they don’t fuck with you. Now you’ve made a fool of yourself.
“I knoooow.” She whines, as she stares in the mirror.
“Okay, get it together, Y/n! Let’s just knock them out and then we’ll let them go. This really isn’t you, anyway.” She whispers, lightly smacking her face.
She walks out of the bathroom towards the basement, opening the door and walking down the stairs.
“Okay, guys. I’m gonna let you go but I have to…”
Her eyes widen as the hairs on her body stand up, goosebumps forming as anxiety shoots her, eyeing the empty space with the ropes scattered. Her hands began trembling as she looked around the room. She begins to hyperventilate, standing in the same spot as she continues to stare at the space they used to sit at.
“Boo.” She hears before she could turn to face the culprit, a force on her head causes her to immediately fall into darkness.
Just waking up, she hears a familiar voice say, “You know, I was almost scared you wouldn’t pass the test, Y/n.” When she fully awakens, she pulls at the restraints, cuffs tight around her wrists as they link to chains from a wall that isn’t hers. She glares at her culprits in surprise.
“Wh-what test? Wait! Please don’t kill me, I was gonna let you go!” Honestly, she should want to die. Who gets abducted by the people they abducted in the first place?
She flinches when Kazutora crouches in front of her to pat her head.
“We knew the whole time that we were being watched.” He says before standing back.
“We just wanted to see how far you’d go.” Ran says with an amused smile.
“Pretty bold of you to kidnap us. Even though you had no idea what you were doing.” Rin smirks.
“That’s why we rejected you and let me tell you, you didn’t disappoint. We knew you’d go far but this is even better.” Sanzu says.
She stares at them in bewilderment.
So everything was planned to trigger me? The rejection, the hookups, the dating, the everything? They knew everything.
“S-so you played with me?”
“Well, not yet.” Mikey jokes, causing the rest to laugh. “But yes, we had to see if you were truly on our level.” He says as he crouches in front of her.
“Isn’t that why you feel the connection, Y/n? Because, we’re the same. You’re just as twisted as us.” Sanzu responds.
“No, no, no! I didn’t play with anyone’s feelings! I-I was honest about everything. We’re not the same! Not like I thought.” She says, voice shaky as the realization that she’s been infatuated with psychopaths seeps into her mind.
“Unfortunately, we thought you’d kill those girls, though you never did. That was disappointing so it was exciting when we let you drug and kidnap us.” Kazutora says with a content expression.
“Stop.”
“Or when we fucked them because we knew you were watching.” Rin adds.
“Stop it!” So they were taunting me? When they would look out the window, they knew I was there?! I was right?
“Your attempt was very cute.” Ran chuckles.
“What did you think was going to happen? We deal with this type of shit everyday.” Sanzu says.
“STOP! Just stop fucking talking!”
“What’s with the long face? Are you not happy that we’ve chosen you?” Mikey questions as he tilts his head.
“This… this was not how it was s-supposed to go, just let me go!”
“Oh, so it’s only okay when you make moves, huh? You’re not very fair are you?” Rin taunts.
“Yeah, I thought you loved us unconditionally. What’s with the change of heart?” Kazutora mocks.
“It doesn’t matter anyway. It’s no longer your choice anymore.” Sanzu shrugs.
“You don’t have to do the big boy work anymore so you can relax, Princess.” Ran gives a closed eye smile.
“I… I want to go home! Please just let me go.” She pleads.
“That’s too bad. You’re not going anywhere.” Mikey states. “Sanzu, we’re done here.” After he announces their dismissal to the conversation, everyone steps back as they get comfortable on the scattered couches and chairs as Sanzu walks towards her.
“What’s happening? What are you gonna do?”
He kneels in front of her as he crawls in between her legs.
“I found you first so I get first dibs.”
She gasps as he pulls her bottoms down swiftly.
“W-wait! No, I’m not ready!”
“Relax.” He demands, moving back as he pulls her from her sitting position causing her to lean her back uncomfortably against the wall. She tries to squeeze them shut as she pulls on the restraints. She also tries to ignore the piercing gazes of the others who already have their erections out. In any other event she would’ve been excited if it weren’t for what has happened in the last few hours. His hands hold her thighs up as one of his fingers slither up her pussy through her underwear.
“You’re so wet. Of course you’d be turned on by this.”
“P-please don’t do this! Just give me some time, Sanzu!” He looks up at her mesmerized by how her voice sounded saying his name.
“I always knew that you’d be worth every life we took.” Her eyes widened.
“Your friends were taking up too much of your time and attention.” Mikey says. “That’s supposed to be ours.”
“Especially that clown you called a ‘boy best friend.’ Obviously you liked him, what were you thinking?” Kazutora laughs.
“You did what?! How… How could you do that? What the fuck is wrong with you people?! Let me out of here!”
“How else were you going to notice us?”
She shrieks as Sanzu enters her pussy, gripping her thighs as he thrusts all the way to her cervix. Holding it there as he wipes her tears.
“I only want those tears to be from me.”
He began to thrust as he pulled her against him each time his hips came forward, skin smacking skin as he went balls deep relentlessly. She cries as she couldn’t help the reflexed moans and whimpers falling out of her throat as his head repeatedly hits her g-spot. Her legs tense as the chains connected to her wrists rattle. His hand wraps around her waist as he pulls her closer onto his kneeling lap, fucking into her at a deeper angle as he rests his face on the crook of her neck. His heavy breathing and slight moaning hit her ears and neck causing tingles to run up her spine.
She closes her eyes so she doesn’t have to keep seeing the others who are observing, jerking their own cocks as they glare at her with so much lust that it makes her have goosebumps.
“This feels so fucking good.” He whispers to himself, her pussy clenching as she prevents herself from enabling him by grinding back. She feels sick and disgusted at herself for the pleasure his cock is bringing. Her tears fall heavily as he continues to thrust his cock in and out of her hole, working them up to their release.
Each man, besides Sanzu, sat, stroking their cocks as occasional moans slipped, breathing heavily as they watched their woman getting plummeted by dick, the sounds of her moans and wet pussy turning them on to the highest points as they thrust their hips against their hand. Mikey gets up to unchain her as Sanzu places her on her hands and knees, pushing her upper back lower so her chest meets the floor, everyone getting a side view of him fucking her in doggy style.
She uses her arms to cover her face, her head forced to turn towards the guys by Mikey.
“If you move your head and don’t keep your eyes open, we’ll kill your family one by one.” He walks back to his spot on the couch and continues to fap his cock. She cries even harder at his threat, reminding her of the reason for her friend’s disappearances.
After a few minutes, Sanzu began to feel himself about to cum. She tenses as she looks back, “Wait, I’m not on birth control!”
“We’ll take care of it.” He begins to thrust harder.
“Ah fuck.” He moans as he pushes himself deeper inside, releasing the fluid as she orgasms, feeling the semen filling her being her last straw. The rest of the men shoot ropes of sperm as they give one last thrust. When he pulls out of her, her body falls to the ground as she lays out, exhausted and defeated.
“You’re not done yet, Y/n.”
“You wanted this, so you’re gonna take it all like a big girl, okay?”
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silentcryracha · 11 months
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❍ ‗ What type of songs Skz would write about you ‗ ❍
Pairings : Stray Kids x reader
Genre/warnings : headcanons, possible use of swear words, mentions of intimacy, mentions of sad feelings and breakups
Summary : What type of songs I think Stray Kids members would write about their relationships
Word count : 1.7k
A/n : these are general headcanons that are described more in a technical way than a fictional one, so yeah
ps: There could be errors. Do NOT repost on other socials. Leave feedback if you feel like it, otherwise enjoy! ♡︎
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Chan ‗ ❍
Holy trinity: agsty, fun, horny
Chan seems like the man who would gain inspiration from strong feelings that he may experience.
The man has range and is talented af so of course he'd be able to write anything, BUT
My idea is that he'd be more inclined to write about angsty feelings ranging from sadness, maybe regret. He wouldn't specifically write about you or describe you as a person or your features, those are for him only to appreciate, or in this case, to miss. I think he'd write down his feelings, whether it's plain sadness and longing, or something stronger like regret, or unspoken things.
But he could also be really inspired by the thrill and 'primal' feeling that comes with the start of a relationship, or even a little earlier when it's the 'chasing' moment before getting together. He'd write about how he's absolutely whipped and stupid in love for you, but in the 'fun' way, not in the 'sad' way.
Both the angst and the fun could (and probably would) be mixed with some horniness, absolutely. He could write about how mad you make him and how fucking desperate he is for a taste of you. Again, this could be applied in a more fun and lighthearted song, like a honeymoon phase, or to a darker more 'toxic' context.
Minho ‗ ❍
A delicate story about romance in all its shades
I feel like Minho would keep the lyrics very vague, but still mainly focus on the other person, more than write about this own feelings. While Chan seems more the type to write a 'letter' type of lyrics, I think Minho would be more of a 'storyteller'.
He'd probably write more chill lyrics, never being raunchy or explicit, but could very well imply intimacy in a more subtle way. In a poetic way, if you will.
I do think that he'd give his best with romantic songs, though. He may not look like it at first glance, but Lee Minho is a romantic and you will not change my mind.
I could see him writing lyrics with a lot of artistic/literature/media influence. Which ties back with the whole 'storyteller' thing. They wouldn't be overly complex as in words choice though, they'll need to be simple and delicate with a perfect melody to accompany them. Maybe some technical or production related tricks (like the 'suspense' at the end of limbo)
The same exact style would apply for more angsty or sad songs. I find him similar to Chan in this aspect in the sense that he'd write about sad, depressing and heart wrenching feelings more than angry or vengeful ones. He'd also probably do it in a 'therapeutic' way, like writing down the last chapter of a story that will be finally be closed and locked away in his memories.
He could also write some more 'fun' songs but I think that they wouldn't be necessarily about romantic relationships. But who knows?
Changbin ‗ ❍
About you, about me, about us
Changbin is another master in the craft of composing and writing, which means that he'd be able to switch povs pretty easily in whatever story he wanted to tell, or even change the style of the narration itself.
He could write about any topic he wanted to be honest, and his rapping and freestyling abilities are probably a big help in that sense, but let's focus on romance now.
Bin looks like someone who cherishes a lot his personal life and feelings, which is why it would be harder to find lyrics in which he directly puts himself as the narrator. But it does happen sometimes, and it's usually a cry for help. May be a pleading to someone that left him, an apology to someone he hurt.
Usually though I feel like he's more the one to pick a specific feeling/situation and elaborate on it. Might be a specific argument, the way that a breakup happened, the mistakes that led to said breakup. In this case he would write openly, like he wants the person in question to hear him out through his music.
His lyrics wouldn't be adorned with pretty words or poetic comparisons, but only with real and raw feelings that will pull at your heartstrings for how honest they sound.
Hyunjin ‗ ❍
Straight out of a literature piece
Hyunjin *say it with me*, is a romantic. Yes, that's the key to understanding him, pretty much.
He is a lover, through and through. A lover of art, beauty, emotions, memories, of love itself. This is why I think that any lyrics that he may write will be almost like a dance of words, melodies, instruments, and feelings. He wants to put his feelings down because they overwhelm him.
With each of his songs he seems like he wants to curate every aspect to the T, almost as if he was creating his own little work of art. He wants it to be evocative, to make you feel what he does, and will do it with different tools such as poetical lyrics, a particular choice of instruments, and even the tone of his voice.
Ironically, I think that the more he'd have to 'hide', the more complex and embellished the lyrics would be. He could do a song with quite simple but direct lyrics, and sing it in an energetic way, almost desperate way, like he can't wait to shout out to the person he loves. Almost like a movie/book scene in which the love interest finally confesses their love.
The thing with Hyunjin seems to be that he enjoys writing about angsty feelings. Something that could be a problem of communication within the relationship, or confusion by getting mixed signals from someone, or again with a dangerous attraction for someone who isn't right for him but still manages to 'lull' him into this toxic relationship.
In both cases I think that he'd use a lot of artistic or maybe visually eliciting comparisons in his lyrics, playing with words and the emotions that those elicit in people.
Jisung ‗ ❍
Let it out, angsty boy
I really feel like Han writes when he doesn't find any other way out, so whatever it is it's likely to be explosive.
He's gonna write lyrics that scream how much he's wrapped around your finger, how your love is essentially all he needs to live and that you could do whatever you wanted with him because he's yours. Would be very smart in writing a whole story about it, mentioning mundane things and then ranging to use metaphors and abstract comparisons to let his explosive emotions through.
I feel like he could write out of frustration too, which would bring lyrics with a different tone to them. Whatever he feels must and will be reflected in the song. If the sentiment is cold, sharp and toxic, the producing part of the song will reflect that as much as his own intonation. If it was a cry for help, a prayer almost, you'd be able to feel it through the melody and the whole structure of the song, not only the lyrics.
He's another one who desperately wants and needs for his music to be honest and to elicit the same feelings that he felt while producing it in complete detail, similar to Hyunjin.
Felix ‗ ❍
A lot of feelings and honesty
Felix has range in what he writes, but what I noticed mostly in the projects that he's been part of, is that he uses his voice a lot to set the tone of the song.
Whatever are the lyrics, his extremely adaptable voice with automatically make you understand what he was going for 'emotion' wise. This also applies to the choice of the instrumentals.
I feel like he could be writing about more romantic and wholesome feelings, in this case with lyrics that sound really clean, pure and almost dreamy, but still simple.
But he could also be writing about more gloomy feelings, mainly of sadness and 'mourning', and would probably treat the narrative as something that is already in the past but with which he still has to let go completely. His main goal I think is honesty, which is why the lyrics would be quite simple but hurt where they should.
Seungmin ‗ ❍
Dreamy and emotional
I feel like he's truly someone that could make a listener go 'Oh, so he is in love LOVE' while listening to one of his songs.
The things that would inspire Seungmin the most while writing is the feeling of being in love. He'd probably be quite poetic, dreamy and transfer these vibes to the lyrics and music as well. His voice too, which is adaptable and very expressive.
He's also someone who tries to give a 'narrator' vibe to his songs, almost like he was telling a story that had a beginning and and end. He can write about pretty much anything if it has to do with love. Unrequited love, longing for someone, looking back on your shared happy memories with a hint of sadness. He is also someone who is quite honest and wants the song to represent his feelings in an almost 'dreamy' way.
Jeongin ‗ ❍
Delicate, warm and comforting
Jeongin is someone who seems more comfortable writing about delicate feelings, whether they're positive or negative. A delicate love, almost like a first love, or on the other end a sad ending to that same love.
They lyrics would be quite easy, not overly complex and aim to be as honest as they can in eliciting the same feelings that the writer felt as they thought them out. But there would be a factor of comfort and relatability to them that would pull at your heartstrings.
His voice can also be quite expressive and he knows is, which is why the intonation along with the instrumentals would be fundamental, even more than the words themselves maybe.
He'd like to take a specific feeling and make a song about it, it doesn't necessarily need to be a whole story, moral, or context. He just wants to be able to express his feelings as clearly as possible, without necessarily giving it a background. I feel like those actual moments would be very precious to him and would want to keep them private in his memory.
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I’ve never really heard a definitive answer, and I remember weird pseudo-attraction in some books, but are space marines capable of romance or sexual desire in canon? Do they have the jewels and such? What about sororitas? Are they all neutered and spayed
Space Marines aren't neutered, but generally have no sexual use for their genitals. Not necessarily because they don't work, but because a combination of cultural elements and indoctrination techniques render them unable to adequately parse the concept of sex, or even physical pleasure, in a way that is standard.
The only real exception to that seems to be, from all canon allusions, the Space Wolves, whose particular culture and indoctrination methods allow for an alleged capacity to still want to drink and fornicate and make bawdy jokes. They are considered to have an extremely non-standard geneseed and general culture for loyalists, though, so this is actually one of the less weird things about them.
But, by and large, no. Space Marines can have feelings for people, they can get jealous over people, and they can desire pleasure, but their minds have extreme difficulty recognising and articulating these things, let alone processing them into a particularly coherent physical or social response.
Argel Tal, for example, very much had romantic inclinations and a protective adoration for Cyrene Valantion, but he was never able to express it much more than being gentle around her and wanting to keep her safe. Some of the Emperor's Children took part in an orgy, and their way of expressing physical elation and taking enjoyment was by using their strength to crush and brutalise humans present. The grey knight Hyperion is very sullenly jealous of the Inquisitor Annika Jarlsdottyr's relationship with one of her underlings, but rationalises it as a professional distaste for the man's former crimes that he can't quite wrap his head around. Marines can even have strong and fairly complex feelings for each other, but it tends to come out in ritualised and relatively innocent fraternal expressions of affection, because that's the lens they've been subjugated into seeing reality through.
So yeah. They feel things, but it's all out of whack and muddled up. Could a marine experience a sense of arousal from combat or something? With the way they're wired, it's likely, but they wouldn't necessarily recognise it.
As for the Sorortias, they can, by and large, bone if they want. They do bone, if they want. The people they bone feel very lucky to have the experience. Some of them might abstain for cultural or religious reasons, but there's not an inherent obligation to. They're duty driven, but in a more standard religiously nutty way, not the "needles in the brain" way Astartes are subjected to.
Good question!
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I'm 15 and I've never been in a romantic relationship, no one has ever expressed having a crush on me, etc. Some of my friends have never been in relationships while others have several exes, but in my daily life at school I pretty much never encounter romance of any kind directed at me, so I usually forget it's even a thing.
It feels weird to me though when I see other aros/aces online talking about fending off constant flirtations, love confessions, crushes, etc when that's literally never happened to me? And even though I'm more than fine with that, it makes me feel like something's wrong with me because I've never had anyone behave like that personally. I don't want to date, but I want to be *likable*, and given how much emphasis society in general places on romantic attraction, the lack of romance in my life feels like it reflects poorly on me :P
Yeah, I do think it's someone normal/common to want to be perceived as attractive, even if you're not actually interested in any kind of romance/sexual situation with other people. Though I would say that:
a. Being asked out or frequency of being asked out isn't necessarily a reflection of how attractive you might be. There's a lot of factors that go into being asked out like aproachability, the kinds of situations you're in/people around you, etc. For example a lot of aroaces aren't really connecting to people in a flirty/mutual attraction kind of way (though sometimes this can be misread), and aren't asked out as often because of that. Some people are very attractive, but kind of intimidating and get asked out less for that reason, etc. and
b. your self worth isn't determined by how attractive you may or may not be. When determining self worth it's important to focus on the things you can control. Value yourself for the things you do. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you can't control, or often even know, how another person is perceiving you in that context. It's fun to know if people do find you attractive, but remember that you're a cool and interesting person in your right no matter what and that matters more.
All the best, Anon!
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this has probably been asked here before but how likely do you think it is that the author actually truly intended for Griffith and guts relationship to be romantic? How likely do you think it is we’ll get a blatant confirmation (eg a confession of love beyond being friends or even a tragic kiss) and if it does happen do you think it’s likely we’ll get an explicit confirmation on both of their ends so we know the feeling is reciprocated (because I know guts feelings can be underestimated sometimes compared to griffiths). Likelihood as a percentage or on a scale from one to ten lol. I think it’s already pretty obvious enough for me to be satisfied whatever happens but it would be nice if there was an undeniable proof of mutual romantic love. because I think no matter what happens if it’s anything less than spelling it out word for word people would still make attempts to deny their feelings which is kind of sad to me. But I could be wrong of course and romance wasn’t intended by the author. Either way I want them to reveal their feelings for each other whether platonic or romantic.
I'm cynical, so I feel like the odds of something textually romantic happening are like, 2/10 at best. Might've gone up to 3/10 if Miura was stlil alive since it's getting more and more common to confirm gay subtext and that might've influenced him, but since it's being written now by someone determined to adhere to the plans Miura told him, whatever happens is frozen in amber circa Miura and Mori's last conversation, with no room to evolve.
That's all pretty much a moot point anyway because again, I think the odds were always gonna be pretty miniscule anyway.
That said, I think the odds that Miura intended the gay subtext are like 9.5/10 lol. I think the romantic undertones are almost certainly deliberate.
I guess I just don't think it necessarily follows that the point of the subtext was ever to eventually become text. I think it was probably there for a lot of potential other reasons: to add a sense of depth and complexity to their relationship; to add more chemistry; potentially to appeal to women; to suggest that their relationship had the potential for romance that will never be realized therefore making their relationship even more all-encompassing and adding to the tragedy; serving the theme of childhood trauma fucking up your relationships; etc.
Of course I'd be overjoyed if it was acknowledged eventually, and I think the story would ultimately be better for it, like I'm not gonna say it's ~deeper~ if it stays subtext lol. But I think that considering the main target audience for Berserk is horny straight dudes, and while it's getting more common it's still very rare to have textual gay romances between two leads, and almost unheard of in legacy media properties, I just don't think the odds are in griffguts' favour.
Oh, though I do want to add that I'd say the odds of getting an acknowledgement of intense feelings between them post-eclipse is very high. I don't think it'd likely be a romantic confession, but yeah I think it seems very likely that Griffith and Guts are going to acknowledge the intense emotional hold they still have over each other. And if that happens I'll be happy even if it's not textually romantic. I'm sure it'll at least be homoerotic enough for me lol.
Thanks for the ask!
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So uhh
I like In Stars and Time. You should play it if you haven't already. It's extremely good. And I will be subtly spoiling a lot of it during this analysis.
Recently I have thought of thr trend if assigning tarot cards to characters in media, or my on characters. So I thought...what if I did that to ISAT?
...so yeah. I'll be doing that. Please tell me if I mess it up, or give me your opinions.
Again, spoilers under the cut.
Siffrin(Fool of Hanged Man)
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Fool: The Fool is generally seen as the start of a journey. Even though he is at the end, the time loops and the fact that they have a lot of things to worry about/trauma means that they have a long journey ahead of them.
Hanged Man: A reversed Hanged Man, to be precise. Siffrin is INTENSLY afraid of change. To be more specific, he's stuck in this time lopp because he doesn't want to forget or leave his friends behind. His family behind, his country, his memory. The hanged man is about sacrifice and moving forward, and they do NOT want to do either. But they must.
I would also like to add that they may also be linked to The Devil card. Mostly because it's about desire and stuff and Siffrin desires amny things and can do a lot of selfish and cruel things to his family members.
Mirabelle:Lovers or Chariot.
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Lovers:Mirabelle is aroace and perfectly fine with that. It’s a shame that she lives in a society where being perfectly fine with staying stagnant forever is discouraged.
Mirabelle is very religious. She believes strongly in the word of Change. So strongly that she is willing to ignore her feelings of being happy with who she is. She loves expressing platonic and familial love, but...romance and sex ain't it.
I chose the Lovers because it is about choice. Crossroads in one's life, that decide your fate. She was about to make the wrong one, the one that would make her miserable. Luckily, she didn't.
Chariot: Mirabelle may not be the Fool, but the thing that helps the fool move forward is a trusty chariot. From the beginning she's been trying to move forward and save Vaugarde from the King, and especially in the clocktower and higher levels of the house, she is determined to bring her home to its regular state.
If she doesn't, she will let everyone she cares about down. Also, again, she loves in a society where she feels she has to change, even if it means being in a romantic/sexual relationship and hating it. It's all for change, it's all for moving forward.
Isabeau: Strength.
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Before the story, Isabeau may have been a reversed strength Arcana. Or at least that's how would see it. He was weak, and had low self-esteem and self-worth. And he hated it. He hated it so much that he became...well,*he*.
While he doesn't necessarily appreciate being treated as an idiot now, he seems happy to be a stronger, more confident, and upright version of himself, both inside and our. Though...judging by the fact that Siffrin's comments got to him during their uhh..darker moments, there may still be some doubts left in him.
(Sidenote I think Isabeau may be my favorite character besides Sif and Loop)
Boniface: Sun and Magician
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Sun: Bonnie is a ray of positive energy wrapped in a small little crab with a potty mouth and I love them for it. And so does the rest of the party. They support the others with their cooking and miniscule damage. And it's good.
The rest of the saviors would do anything to keep that ray of positivity alive. Even if it meant they would die in the process.
Its no wonder that when they die to the king in the end of Act 3...Siffrin considers that the end.
Magician:This is mostly coming from their hangout quest. Bonnie can heal and cook, but they can also fight...barely. The fact that they are technically the only other party member who can use rock attacks at base(without using a spell like Odile or Sif) shows that they have some potential. And they want to use and grow that potential to go on kore adventures and help their friends.
Odile: Hermit
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Odile, while serving as the party's mature voice of reason, and probably fitting for roles like The Empress or Hierophant, I personally see her as a Hermit because of how isolated her story is.
The only one who ever knows what she's doing with her research is Siffrin, and only if/when you do her quest. Every other time, she seems to be isolated and actively hiding it. Its not that she doesn't rely on her friends,but...she's simply doing this alone.
It's a very personal journey for her about being more connected to your heritage and reflecting on yourself.
To be honest, Hermit works REALLY well for Siffrin, too.
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I think prev anon should keep asking for what they want, actually. Also, the thing this anon is talking about is really an "if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it" situation when you think about it. If you're writing a character you personally view as on the ace and/or aro spectrum, but you're writing them as experiencing sexual and romantic attraction to whichever character they're with AND you're NOT writing them exploring their whole history of sexual/romantic attraction or their choice of identity label.... you're not having them outright SAY they're ace or aro spectrum.... then what you're writing is not functionally different from most allo romance (where there's plenty of, for instance, "I've never felt about anyone the way I feel about you" and all that), so who on an exchange who DNWs ace and aro headcanons is going to take issue with that? They couldn't, because they're not going to KNOW that you're writing them as ace or aro if you don't say it.
When people DNW "ace/aro headcanons" they're pretty clearly asking for a) not having a character verbally identify as ace/aro spec and b) characters in whichever ships they asked for to show clear sexual and romantic attraction to each other. Yeah, sure, there are plenty of ace and aro real people those don't fall outside of the experience of, but that's not what's being DNWed, just the particular ways you'd *explicitly* indicate someone as ace/aro in fanfiction.
It's similar to how I can read "DNW bi headcanon" for a character I personally headcanon as bi, and I just take that as a cue not to mention that they've had relationships with or are attracted to people of the opposite gender of whichever partner(s) in the asked-for ship(s) involving that character. But like, what I'm writing isn't actually incongruent with them being bisexual, since plenty of bi people only have relationship/sexual experience with people of one gender, and even those who don't aren't necessarily going to be talking about every relationship they've had or every person they've been attracted to all the time. It's very easy to write a story about a bi male character where he's in love with a man without mentioning his attraction to women, and vice versa. I've done that many times for those characters even when not explicitly told not to write bi headcanons.
It's also similar to the point made previously about how "DNW trans headcanons" often really just means "don't explicitly mention that this character used to be another gender or has a particular set of genitalia" and that being easy to accommodate in non-smut fanfiction. And a lot of people include that less because of their feelings about IRL trans people and more because of the particular set of tropes associated with "trans headcanon fic," including, specifically, not wanting certain types of sex (like someone requesting M/M or F/F not wanting PIV, or someone requesting F/M ONLY wanting that) that tend to be endemic in trans fanfic, even though plenty of real trans people have other kinds of sex. Plenty of real trans people get bottom surgery too, or conversely don't get any surgery ever and don't want it, but for whatever reason "trans fic" as a genre seems to nearly always involve someone who gets top surgery but not bottom surgery, unless they're very early in transition and then they don't have either.
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cursed-princess-club · 5 months
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if you don't mind me asking, could you rank these "couples" from most to least likely to end up together in the final?
Maria and Blaine
Lorena and Lance
Gwen and Frederick
Nell and Jolie
Jamie and Leopold
Whitney and Prez
Saffron and Syrah (I'm helpless with names i'm pretty sure that's not how it's written)
7am for me on a weekend just woke up im still in bed and yeah sure why not lol
story-wise, i don't feel like any plaid/pastel ships will necessarily end up together. their mutual crushes are very canon and a plot point with gwen's self image slowly becoming dependent on how frederick sees her, and frederick learning how to care about himself and fight for what he believes in. gwen is kind of one of his first friends i'd say, they do like each other a lot, but my intuition tells me it'd be left ambiguous or with them taking time off deciding to be friends for now, and i would honestly love that. 1. Friendship is AWESOME and doesn't mean less than a romantic relationship!! so 2. just think it'd be cool... Frederick's whole arc is motivated by Gwen, and the message of him doing all this just for the fact he cares about her and NOT just to get with her, and him being just as happy that they're friends as much as he'd be happy if they kissed at the end of the fight or something. Epic
the farthest i could see their relationship going is some future flash forward where they're just casually together, or one of them approaches each other and is like "could we try this again?" otherwise i see gwen and frederick taking their relationship slow ever since the gala incident. Could also be completely wrong. 6/10 chance in my book
after the Gala Shebang, i think any infatuation maria felt for blaine has wiped away and i just can't see them ending up together together in the story, and having it make sense. Maybe like. 30 years in the future?? cause i could see maria dating around. Never text your ex when you're drunk type situation.
lorance: ...maybe.? I'll have to watch a little more and see what my brain tells me. so far im feeling they end up friends bc adore their friendship tbh. I'll have to see till after the siege, they very much so care about each other though!
jellie: Yes (just a hunch)
syron: ambiguous. a specific scenario suited towards their relationship . i feel it in my bones. epilogue where saff confesses and sy's just like haha. WAIT WHAT??? 7/10
leomie: Yes. their confession is in my top 3 for cpc. No words. Undescribed. I. I cannot express,
calwhit: feel like it'd stay unrequited on whitney's end but they'd be a great qpr! prez being romance avoidant and such 😎 (aro lore tbh)
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Okayyy get ready because the time has come and we are doing this (disclaimer: these are just my personal views and I'm not trying to convince anybody to agree with me, this is just me listing which characters I think are aroacespec and why)
Amnesia aroacespec headcanons in order of least to most controversial
#4 - Henri Clement
Henri being aromantic just makes sense to me. Romance doesn't ever come up in his story, it's all about him and his best friend! An incident with a barmaid is mentioned, though unspecified, so I just don't really know what that's about??? But also the Bunker was released just around the same time as the first-ever international aromantic day of visibility, sooo... Also I don't know if he's also ace, but personally I think he probably is, he's at least the one on this list who in my opinion is the closest to being fully aroace (like me :D)
#3 - Justine Florbelle
Now I know we've already jumped to a ridiculously controversial character here, so you know the last two are really gonna be a doozy haha, but ANYway, Justine obviously loves having people be attracted to her, but she herself never experiences any attraction to any of her Suitors. She just loves to feel loved and feel "beautiful," but she doesn't love any of them in return. I don't know about her being ace honestly, I considered sex positive ace for her but maybe she does feel the sexual attraction but not the romantic? Definitely romance favorable aro, but I'm interested in other people's opinions on the sexual attraction part of it. But last but not least, let's address the elephant in the room- Clarice. I personally believe that Justine and Clarice are in an alterous relationship. It's not necessarily romantic but it's not necessarily platonic, it just is what it is between them and what's important to them is that they love each other, not exactly what kind of love that is. That's my take
#2 - Alexander von Brennenburg
Ohhh yeah here's where I'm really gonna lose people, but I'm gonna be totally honest... I don't understand why everyone in the fandom sees Alexander as a slut??? I don't see that in him in the game at all, he's CLEARLY wholly devoted to his love (who I personally believe to be Temaku based on a note in Rebirth). Everything Alexander does, spending hundreds of years just to open this portal, is all just to be with his love again. So why would he be sleeping around and falling in love with Agrippa, Weyer, Daniel, or ANYone? I don't get the fandom interpretation of Alexander being a whore or polyamorous, I think in the game he's monogamous to a disturbing and unhealthy degree and it's part of what makes his character... who he is. So in my eyes, Alexander is demigay (I do understand the take that Alexander seduced Daniel to manipulate him without actually being in love with Daniel, but not Alexander falling in love with him for real)
Last but not least...
#1 - Daniel
Cue the screaming
Look. LOOK. Okay. Every single protagonist, even the two others I've mentioned here, have mention of sex and/or romance in their personal stories. Justine, obviously, Oswald, ALL THE TIME, Tasi, had a husband and children, Henri, incident with the barmaid, but Daniel.... nothing. Zip. Zilch. Zero. Nada. It never comes up, and to me that's because he's not ever.. thinking about it. It's not something that's on his mind because it's not something that he feels or desires. He just really likes archeology and history and his sister and that's all :)
That being said...
I do think Daniel is not 100% aroace. I see him more in the gray or demi area, but it's very very very rare for him. Case in point, I do think he had a bit of a crush on Alexander, but I think that was his first crush so he didn't recognize what those feelings were or why he was feeling them. I think Alexander could tell that Daniel had a crush on him though, and thought it was cute and funny but also used it to his advantage (though not by outright seducing him since Daniel didn't know he had a crush). So Daniel in my head is also demigay, or graygay, but most of the time is pretty much aroace
Plus honorable mention - Tihana!! I think it fits with what little we hear about her backstory
Those are my thoughts and feelings I've been sitting on for a year because I'm tired of people bashing aroace headcanons, but that's been happening less and less the last couple years and I've been going through a lot so I think I deserve to indulge myself a little
Also just a reminder that I'm not claiming these to be canon or trying to convince anybody to see things my way! This is just what I think and why :))
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Do you think Joe was the first partner that Taylor had ever really considered a friend before he was a lover and consciously considered their friendship throughout the relationship alongside their romance?
I’ve been listening to a lot of Lover lately and I noticed that she refers to their friendship several times, which isn’t something she’s really sung much about before Joe. I think she’s typically someone who really likes that spark/instant chemistry/obvious romantic tension and it’s not like that was necessarily absent with Joe, but it does seem like she forced herself to hold back on jumping into the romance a lot more at first because of the state she was in at the time. I feel like because of this time and who they both are, they formed a kind of truly intimate friendship that she hadn’t really had with a bf before. Obviously idk her at all lol but she says things like “it’s nice to have a friend”/“I hate accidents except when we went from friends to this” and (imo) she seems to have had a lot of respect for Joe’s character, intentions and integrity, which isn’t something she really ever got into about her past relationships, (she has often sung about having strong romantic feelings for someone but also knowing they weren’t the best/safest person).
The way she talks about little things like “save your dirtiest jokes for me” and “sit quietly by my side in the shade” and “have my back, yeah, every day” really paints a picture of a deeper foundation between two people who just liked each other and genuinely got on with each other beyond the sex and romance — they were happy cleaning up bottles together after the party was over (“I want your dreary Mondays, too”) and I guess this was just an excuse for me to talk about how devastating the peace/NYD mashup was to hear after all that — to become a stranger whose laugh she could recognise anywhere. 👍🏼 ok :)
Glad she seems happier now though !
i love how you started and ended this ask, because i was literally thinking, "you answered your own question" jfkasld. i do think it's really notable and sweet how she weaves their friendship and romance throughout, though, because it does indicate it was special and important to her. "he built a fire just to keep me warm"... he wanted nothing from her, except to know she was safe.
for me, those friendship parallels explain so much of why this relationship was precious to her:
no one wanted to play with me as a little kid, so i've been scheming like a criminal ever since to make them love me and make it seem effortless -> say my name and everything just stops, i don't want you like a best friend -> all of my enemies started as friends, help me hold onto you -> bridges burn, i never learn, at least i did one thing right -> it's nice to have a friend -> please don't ever become a stranger whose laugh i could recognize anywhere
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FINALLYsomeone whos right around here. aro papyrus aro mettaton. are they dating? are they ina qpr? are they just friends? no one knows!!!!! (this includes them)
ayyy right? they work really well together, regardless of what relationship they have with one another, just by the kind of character they are on their own, y'know? they click.
papyrus has a whole date subplot where he forces himself into a romantic situation because he feels it's expected of him, doing everything to muster up romantic feelings only to realize he can't and that... doesn't mean he's "failed" at anything! that is a completely normal reaction to have. he doesn't owe anyone his affections, ESPECIALLY not romantic ones. it's a pretty big part of his character arc, and i think it works really well if you see his character as aro.
as for aro mettaton, it's not my go to hc if i have to be honest, but when i do go there... you know how some aros are obsessed with romance in fiction, love movies/tropes and their friends' relationships, but are fully uninterested in romance for themselves? it's kinda like that! i can see him performing romance (think of the Oh My Love scene), not as in "he's faking it" but in a... campy way? the same way drag is performance, self expression, & also not necessarily who you indentify as. I don't know if the idea is coming across, HAHAHAHA.
but yeah! aro/qpr papyton good. though ultimately, UTDR is a fictional universe where gender and sexuality clearly don't work like they do in our world. they might not even exist altogether! so, I'm cool with whatever people headcanon. just don't be rude, 'ight?
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Yayy I'm back to the long pacs again!🥳 I rushed because I'm gonna make content for Juneteenth but I'm glad this is out! I decided to go with a dark theme for this one, because I wanted to show my love for non conventional art and artists. I was gonna do memes but I've done enough for mow. I hope you check out their pages, I really like all of their work. This pac is for everyone including poly and open folx, regardless of whether you have no partners or multiple. Also, because this reading is so big, feel free to choose multiple piles if you're drawn to.
CW: sexual themes, explicit language
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1° I don't think you'll have any qualms about doing it. Its giving extreme hornyness. Although when you get in to it you might be confused tho. You could struggle to orgasm. Its giving enthusiastic virgin who doesn't understand what they're getting into/doing. This could be with a friend or someone you know but I feel you guys won't work out well during sex. It's weird, they may not be open to suggestions or maybe you feel they aren't. They may be very stubborn and convinced they're doing something right. I'm not getting you won't enjoy it, but you may not orgasm or even feel that good because they think they know everything.
Who• They may change in appearance a lot, you may go through different cycles/situations with this person. May come quick. Idk if they'll be able to keep going after that though.😕 They could be someone that already has multiple partners (if you slut shame you're getting blocked, I don't need you here) Yeah im not getting much they could be in and out of your life a lot. Although you may be friends, you might not know each other very well, more like coworker you hookup with (i don't endorse workplace situationships/romance btw)
2° Could be an orgy/ or someone is watching/ getting cucked. "We ain't gonna get no sleep", it's a song by Janet Jackson and J Cole i think. There's an air of indifference but it's wanted. You might be very selfish during this encounter and there could be two or three people on you. You're not gonna get a break/ be able to rest during it. Maybe there will be a lot of false stops, as in the encounter never truly ends until everyone is exhausted. I don't know if you know these people that well. A few of you are sex workers. A lot will be happening at once.
Who• They may also be self- focused but not necessarily focused. It's like they're prioritizing they're own needs while also making sure everyone else is comfortable. They could all go to the same college/school as you.
3° you might have various scenarios or options to choose from. This person could be a romantic interest, or they have a crush on you. They could ask you out after and for a few of you, this is your (future) partner and they wanna propose after this. This person could be a bit immature and might even be younger than you. But the sex and leading up to it won't be toxic, this could happen after a fight. For a lot of you this will be with a future partner. It's good might be very vanilla, but some of your might find out about a kink you didn't know you had or find out the untapped potential of certain places (aka finding out new erogenous zones or whatever they're called)
Who• someone with a lot of options, doesn't have to be romantic. Might be hung, horse cock, that shit is veiny, even if it's a strap. they could like ribbed condoms a lot. Lol if you like big balls this your person lmfao wtf. That's all I'm getting LMAOO
4° Damn its a story yall. This could be a romantic interest or someone you take interest in. You fuck, you realize some things about them. You cut them off or they ghost you and now you're left to wander the wastelands of Tinder (or just dating in general) on your own in search of a true partner. Anywhom, this might not happen for all of you. During the encounter you might've overhyped them or put them on a pedestal and you're going to realize you shouldn't have. LOL this person might do something or have something (doesn't have to be infection maybe they got a confederate flag in they room HAHAHA) that makes you dry/limp asf. If you decide to give them a chance, you're gonna be disappointed, you might not enjoy the encounter that much or you might not even do much before they orgasm and quit it. If you don't give them a chance, you'll probably try to find another hookup right after.
Who• Other people hype them up for some reason, probably because of their own insecurities or maybe they have some sort of privilege. They could also see themselves as the shit with no real reason as to why. Like they didn't accomplish/do nothing they themselves would be extremely proud of yet. But it's the people around them that really enable and perpetuate this attitude. For some of you they could be randomly hard all the time or wet. They might have more discharge than the average person(i didn't want to fucking know that either, but you have to suffer with me😮‍💨) Um for a few of you they do in fact have bad hygiene, this reminds me of a clip from when Katya went on Ziwe.
5° So you could be feeling drained for two very different reasons: either the sex itself was exhausting or the person you're with is exhausting. Even if this is more than one person, one person in particular was difficult to deal with. If this is a dom or a power play situation and they have control, they most definitely will order you around a lot. This person could be very demanding in bed in general. It's weird there's a big emphasis on a power struggle but for most of you, this wasn't planned. By the end you might feel you won or got what you wanted out of this person (this doesn't allude/refer to an abusive or coercive situation) This could be a potential future partner, even if you know who this is already.
Who• this is someone you may feel bound to. Some of you don't really like them like their personality, so maybe you are bored when you do this. (And were whenever you did it in the past) You stay talking to them because you're comfortable enough and not in the mood to look for other options. They could be considered chubby or they have a bigger stomach. They're kind of annoying. I feel like they talk a lot or complain often. They might try to control other people in a non-sexual way. They may victimize themselves and might not always understand that their actions impact other people.
6° this is interesting energy. You could have waited in line to fuck this person or people. This also could've been planned ahead due to various other obligations. I'm getting distracted a lot while doing your reading. You might actually have to cut this encounter short because something came up. It will be exhausting in a good way, getting all your pent up energy out. This could be an orgy and y'all might actually fight in some way. Or like a sex party and something happens.
Who• this person could be romantically interested in you or the ask you out after this. They're kind of fickle with romantic interests tho they might even ghost you after. Lmaooo they could've initiated the fight.
7° Heavy committed vibes from many of you could be married. This is worth someone who deeply cares about you. You could be the more mature one in the relationship or just more experienced with life but you both are quite mature. You could be older than your partner. This could happen after a fight or much needed break in the relationship. I think your person will approach you first for sex. They could have a big dick and they may be creative sexually. I feel they need a lot in order to be stimulated. This could do with temperature play, food, or wax. This person may worship you a bit or put you on a pedestal and they do it in bed too. They just really like doing stuff to you, for a few they are almost overly romantic. They maybe a kissing fiend as in they like kissing your body a lot. For some of you they love giving you head but they're still in control. For some this is future partner and an encounter you'll have before being committed to each other.
Who• They're very nice.  They're very sweet. But they do get a lot of respect, they could also work in an academic institution or want to work in one. Could like philosophy. They're just lovely, whatever that means to you.
8° you could be connected to pile 5. Ooooh this is the "its your call" group. If course for all groups is all like tht but for this one its very much up in the air. This could come after you reach a certain financial goal, or this is related to finances in some way.  For some its sugar baby-esque energy, someone sees you working hard and wants to take you out. Splurge on a few gifts and go back to their hotel room. Nothing creepy though. (If it is, run) Its really all up to you some of y'all have things you want to try out, others got people wrapped around their fingers. It's very much your call. Some of you don't care about sex,  particularly currently, amd you'll acknowledge that and move on with your life.
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