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luckykiwiii101 · 18 hours

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Omg omg Kiwi!!!

So I have been persisting with your challenge for about 3 days now (I was late to join lol) and I made it into the void for a couple seconds last night before I got scared and left. I wanted to share this with you so that other people can have hope. AND I did this through hard circumstances!

Also TW d3ath, c4nc3r, d1v0rc3.

So, ever since I started affirming that I was “in control of my reality” and that “I am a master at the void state” I noticed that the 3D started to test how persistent I am. Maybe I had a subconscious belief that the 3D would test me, but I chose to persist.

In the 3D: My parents have been divorced for two years and now always fight with each other. This weekend, my dad told us he wants to date the person he cheated on my mom with. And one of my grandparents got diagnosed with stage 4 cancer yesterday.

Now, I was still sad about my circumstances, I still cried about it. However, as soon as I was done letting myself feel my feelings, I went straight back to affirming.

I affirmed robotically. I didn’t do it continuously because I get migraines easily, but I would remember to do it whenever I had thoughts I needed to flip.

Ex: My life sucks —> I am living my desired life

I even visualized my desired life to distract myself from the 3D. Because as Kiwi says, the 4D (your imagination) is what creates reality. So, call me cruel, but when I found out about the diagnosis I did not cry. I was absent minded because I knew that it would change in an instant if I wanted it to.

My (short) void experience

Last night I went to bed and ngl I forgot to affirm before sleeping 💀. Buttt I woke up sometime later and I noticed my room looked a little weird and that’s when I knew that I was lucid dreaming. I had never lucid dreamed before, so I was shocked how real everything felt. The only thing that I noticed that made me realize was the fact that I had 6 fingers. I automatically started saying “I am in the void” and then I felt my consciousness start to float out of my body. And then for like 2 seconds it was pitch black and I couldn’t hear anything but my own voice in my head. But I got scared and left right away. I awoke back into the lucid dream and then awoke in this reality.

I’m definitely going to enter again! And Kiwi, I wanna thank you so much for this challenge, without it I would have probably been stuck in a cycle of doubt and laziness forever. Btw I love your blog 💗

TL;DR: Circumstances don’t matter, only the 4D matters. Robotic affirming is key.

THIS IS AMAZING!!!!

I’m sorry for your hard circumstances but the way you carry yourself so confidently around them is amazing!!! You’re not cruel for not crying, you’re just stepping into your own power and acknowledging that you can bend anything to your will at any instant!

Can’t wait to hear your success story!!💗

#void state #void #law of assumption #loa tumblr #loassumption #loa blog #loablr #manifestation #loa #the void state

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honeywiththemoneyloa222 · 10 hours

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It has to happen because you made the rules

Hi babyyyy

I hope you’re not procrastinating

I feel like you are

Lemme tell you this then

STOP PROCRASTINATING STOP BEING LAZY

Dude you’re literally just laying down

How much lazier could getting in the void state get?

You’re “trying”

You’re asking “how”

There’s only so many “how’s” before you realize

There’s no more information to pile up

How about you just lay down

Forget everything your desires included

Just chill

My baby you’re too cute to be stressed

Stop doing that

Yo you don’t get this stressed to go to sleep do you?

I’m confused

So you can say dream

Sleep

Disassociate

Fantasize etc

You mean to tell me you can do ALL THESE THINGS THAT MAKE YOU FORGET ABOUT YOUR 3D

But you can’t get in the void?

Yeah that’s right

You can’t

Why?

Cuz you assumed it

This is your life bitch

So why are you fighting against yourself?

You’re the one who discovered this

You’re the one who has been here since the beginning of YOUR time(birth)

You’re the one who’s gonna be in YOUR life forever

And YOU discovered the void and LOA

So if anything

Your self concept should be sky high

Cuz you’re that bitch

And you’ll always be

Nobody is above you

We are all baddies

We are all god

We are all powerful

All you’re doing

Is what I always tell you

On my other posts

Lay down

Use a method or don’t

It’s up to you

Use a subliminal or don’t

Your choice

But vibe

Literally don’t even think of your desires and don’t think of the void as a place

It’s not a place

It’s an experience

You dream

Not a place but an experience

Everything you’re doing

Even right now is an experience

Your home is a place

But you living in it and doing things in it

Is experiencing it

Experience is not equivalent to a place because places like homes restaurants etc are just places

Experiences would be whatever happens IN those places but it’s got nothing to do with the buildings

It’s what YOU are doing that creates the experience you had/have

It’s the energy that you have your awareness

Like you could see a house

Cool

By creating memories IN that house

You experienced living in it

That creates such experiences

I know it sounds confusing but let me break it down

The void is not a place

It’s an experience

Because when you’re openly willing to experience something you’re unconsciously giving yourself freedom and power and control to do that thing

Like I said

OPENLY experiencing

Because I know we all “experienced”(I’m tired of using this word now lol) some things that weren’t good

But guess what

You still hold the power to change those “experiences”

The void is inside of you

You can’t “go” there

You become aware of it and you experience it

It’s not a house

It’s not the bakery

It’s you

Your desires were yours the moment you said that you wanted it so there’s no need to worry or constantly try to get in the void only to get your desires if that’s your only goal

You’re cooked

Because why as a god

Are you so desperate to get your desires?

Chill bro

Your subconscious knows you better than you do

Because it developed way faster than you it makes up 95% of our brain power

You come out the womb already knowing how to cry

How to blink

Etc

Yes you eventually learn to walk crawl etc

Why

Because it was embedded into your subconscious mind in how to do that

You can still walk

And you’re how old? Think about it

Your subconscious mind IS THAT powerful it remembers everything you learned as a baby

It remembers things you don’t

Like mastering the void as a newborn

Who knows how many times we’ve probably accidentally gotten in the void as a little baby

I’ve heard stories about people saying they had to get in the void as a CHILD! But they didn’t know what it was

It’s meant to happen

You discovered the void

Not by accident

Although we can all enter everyday me in the world is capable what makes you special is that

YOU know you can

Others don’t

You discovered it for a reason

It’s meant to be

Things that are meant for you

A apart of you and it can never be APART from you

The void is kinda like your soulmate

It’s gonna always be there

It’s always been with you

Will always be

And no matter how much you procrastinate complain overcomplicate stress over nothing

You’re still gonna enter the void

Why

Because this was your first experience

You’re a pro at this already

You’ve been unconsciously doing this since your mothers womb

If you do something repeatedly on accident you can do it on purpose

Good day

Much love 🩵🩵

P.S Everyone has different opinions on what the void is

Or how they enter

This is mine only flow with what you resonate with

I love you Good Luck Queens!!!!

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nalyra-dreaming · 3 days

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I thought Lestat was the one who was more obsessed/in love in his own fucked up but very real way with Louis but these last episodes have shown me that Louis is just as obsessed and in love with him also in his differently messed up way that stems from who he is. The way they went about dreamstat and what he represents in Louis' subconscious I can tell they're cooking up a lot of things that will only bolster this and it's delicious. I love two horrible sort of insane people who are ready to burn the world for each other but also ruin each other's lives and while we've seen that from Lestat more I think we'll get there with Louis soon.

Louis... likes to pretend he is calm, collected and controlled (and he is very controlled to an extent), but... when he snaps he SNAPS and...

Well. He LOVES Lestat.

All of them are horrible^^- and Louis is no exception. Even if he may want to pretend otherwise^^

#Anonymous #ask nalyra #iwtv #amc iwtv #interview with the vampire #amc interview with the vampire #interview with the vampire amc #iwtv amc #iwtv louis #louis de pointe du lac #beautiful one

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bigfatbimbo · 5 hours

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It's been 84 years whoops I live. Someone said something at you about Vox railing them and listen, listen my beloved that is not an indication of dominance for him past the first minute of fucking. He thinks he's hot shit and demands to stay on top this time like he's got something to prove (he does) but within minutes his thrusts are so sloppy and uneven because he can't keep himself under control. He's collapsed forward and clinging to you like a lifeline while his hips just keep jolting forward without his say so. All his bravado from the start has devolved into humiliated whining that it feels so good, too good, begging you to please please please keep taking him he can't stop please mommy he needs to cum in you so bad. Any attempts he makes to collect himself just lead to him whining even louder when he can't. Anyway thats my essay on subtop vox technically doing the railing while also falling apart and begging the entire time thank u for ur consideration.

-MG

18+ minors dni

MG!!! Great to have you back brother, always leaving good shit in my inbox, dear lord. I don’t think I talk about subtop Vox on this blog enough because like it’s just so… Vox.

If you’re a naturally dominate partner then he would absolutely insist on topping or domming at least, like, five+ times. And most of that time, they would have the same result. Because Vox talks a big game, but in action it’s almost embarrassing how fast he unravels.

He would be so cocky at first, talking to you in that condescending manner, “Aw, is poor y/n upset they’re not in control for once—“ que sinister snickering “—Oh doll, you’re just gonna have to get used to it.”

You know what, he’s actually doing okay the first few thrusts, that is, until he’s not. And you two are only a few minutes in too, what a shame. It’s true, maybe you weren’t humoring him as much as he’d like you to be, but his frustration is almost an afterthought when compared to how tight you feel around him, how mind numbing the pleasure was.

But that can’t be right, Vox needed to do this right. If there’s one thing he was, he was competent, right? But you don’t even have to make a comment on the situation, although you’ve absolutely noticed, for him to start having to bite back whines.

“Fuck—zzh,” He’d curse before he sinks down, only propping himself up by an elbow as his body shudders above yours.

“Do you need any help, baby?” Your comment is sweet, too sweet. He can’t tell if it was meant to condescend him or not and, frankly, given the way your allowing him to hump into you like dog, he finds himself not caring as much as he should.

Instead he just grunts, before letting out a short staticky whine, and rutting into you more before stopping short, body shivering, muttering curse words under his breath.

At that point, it would only take a “It’s okay, sweetheart. You tried!” For him to fully collapse onto you. His bravado has been completely diminished, and the worst part is even Vox knows that there was virtually no way of winning back dominance. Not after that embarrassing display.

“Bit off more than you could chew?” Well, that was clearly condescending on your part this time.

“No that’s not—zzh, I— fuck—“ He whines, clinging onto your sides as his hips jolt into you, chasing the pleasure in his dick subconsciously, “I can’t stop, fuck, mommy please— ah shzzz, cant stop!”

Even with his full body weight on you, he doesn’t slow down or soften up, instead fully using you as a lifeline while he fucks into you with growing humiliation. His battle has officially been lost, as it is most times with you. There’s no point when you can see through his facade, so he gives in with his tail between his legs.

He’d practically beg you to let him come inside you, because hasn’t he tried so hard? “Mommy, please, please, I need it inside— Can’t—“ He has trouble articulating these words between static and buffering. When you finally tell him he’s allowed, you resist praising him too much, aka: calling him a good boy because, I mean, he did fail at the one thing he promised he would do.

But you still park him on the shoulder and reassure him it was okay because, after all, he looks cuter when he’s all fucked out, anyways.

#hazbin hotel x reader #hazbin hotel x you #hazbin hotel smut #vox x reader #dom reader #hazbin vox x reader #vox x reader smut #vox x you

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signanothername · 4 hours

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loving the way you draw nightmare

he's so.... cynical?? is that the word?? he's a bastard is what i mean <3

Aaaah thank you!! <33333

Mean girl extremely and unapologetically evil yet still extremely traumatized Nightmare is just how i love him hdhdhsh

It just has this beautiful contrast between who he used to be and who’d he become, it’s just fucked up to think how he used to be just as kind and innocent as Dream, only to grow to be extremely cruel due to circumstances completely out of his control, he didn’t even choose to become cruel, he was simply backed into a corner and cause of it he took extreme measures to protect himself

It’s fun to think of how Nightmare’s hunger for power can be traced back to his inner child feeling so much fear

To me, the corruption definitely feeds on his own pain too, but it’s also fun to think he might not even realize why he’s so hateful anymore, except for the mere memory that the world had never been kind to him so why should he be kind in return?

It’s also fun to think that aside getting negativity to increase his power and simply spreading said negativity, Nightmare doesn’t even have any actual goal in mind when he hurts someone, he genuinely doesn’t realize how much pain he’s in himself, it’s this subconscious thing where he just wants everyone and everything to hurt, seeing others in pain just fuels something inside him that he himself doesn’t know what it is, some sort of sick satisfaction if you will, it just feels right to him

Nightmare’s broken inside without even truly realizing it, so it only makes sense to him that he breaks everything and everyone he comes across

He’s so mean 😔

#anothers ask #ano saves asks

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soaking-wet-cat-punk · 7 months

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#i just think theyre silly #a silly little guy #there’s a lot of lore so if i start posting it will be a lot #so you know how spider-ham makes comic book text appear #my spidersona #goldenweb #they make sound effects #it’s a subconscious thing but they can control it if they have to #imagine you’re trying to be sneaky and this idiot’s making a little cymbal ‘tss-st-t-tss-st-t-tss’ behind you #lmao #across the spiderverse #spidersona

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transmechanicus · 3 days

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Kind of hard to ask as anon

But you doing ok?

Need to vent?

Hi very kind and thoughtful of you to ask, i am doing mmmmm suboptimal but i do not need to vent to a person per se, so much as i need to say absolutely insane shit in my tags and have everyone pretend not to see <3

#my stuff #asks #this is the problem with using tumblr as a multi-role platform bc when i want to talk about my fcuking metnal illness i stress-#about my online friends judging me for it #not in like a mean sense but just that it feels like it would change their opinion of me #like on tumblr u can say you have adhd or autism (i have the latter and likely the former)#but anything more intense is regarded as sketchy #so when i’m having symptoms disease of an additional metnal illness it’s like hmmm i don’t think i’m supposed to talk about that #mostly because the majority of the time it’s something i mask over #and do subconsciously until i get particularly tired or stressed or fatigued #so when i get to those states i’m trying extra hard not to blindside everyone with what a fucking mutant i am under the surface #like yippee hooray more ammunition for some transphobe to use in 3 weeks next time i get anon hate #anyways im. tired. i need more tattoos. i need a vacation. i need a forever hug. i need to feel cute. i need things to just be okay #i need to not be fractured into so many snapping pieces i need to know what is expected of us #i need to not feel like an adult babysitting a child who’s actually controlling me #i feel weak and undisciplined but i know fixing those won’t fill the hole gnawing my heart #im going to bed. blegh.

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vimbry · 1 year

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mm ok I'm curious. everything I've ever read up on about stimming basically calls it involuntary, and when I'm on my own that's true, I do often end up stimming without being aware of what I'm doing, but in company I don't do it at all. does it work like that for anyone else too?

#I pace/turn in circles and rub my palms together when thinking hard/excited #I don't realise I've started doing it until like halfway through but I have Never done these things in front of someone ever #and it feels like I shouldn't have subconscious control over that ??#I guess my fear of embarrassment can override anything lmao

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creekfiend · 2 years

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Not much just publicly processing the ways my trauma has made me a socially harmful person to be around during various periods in my life and trying to outline ways in which our trauma responses can become genuinely poisonous to our interpersonal relationships and indeed our very ABILITY to connect genuinely with other people. How about you

#i now 100% believe #you cant be a good friend without examining your trauma not the events. not dwelling in shit #but processing how it has impacted you and making visible all the invisible things it has made you believe #about the role you occupy in relationships and interactions #the ways you subconsciously try to retain control in your life #if you dont examine those responses and that reactivity you WILL hurt people you care about. sometimes very badly.#and you can get entrenched in these beliefs without even consciously thinking about it and its very dangerous #my main motivation for working thru my trauma responses is wanting to be a better friend #a less unpleasant person to be around and interact with. because i dont want to hurt people. and i have!#badly #and it sucks!!! BUT YOU GOTTA DO IT

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opens-up-4-nobody · 1 year

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#ay ay ay. now that the soul crushing project is done ive elected to spend the week managing data #which is decidedly more chill than what ive been doing for the last month but also isnt not doing anything and it isnt getting stuff done #for when i have to move. so thats annoying. and ive been drawing again at least but i can feel the escalation in my controlling behavior #so its now very frustrating trying to draw anything. coloring is gonna take a million years rip.#also suddenly everyone wants to b social rn? like tomorrow my boss is organizing a thing with an old lab mate and this weekend a #collaborator is having a retirement party. and next week my lab mates wanna do a trivia night. and i kno that i should go to these things.#and i will try but i really dont want to go to any of it. mostly for driving reasons but also im a husk of a person rn. but the more #devastating thing is that uh next week one of the kids i grew up with is getting married to a rich girl lol. and like we werent that close #bc i was and am such an asocial freak but after the wedding my parents r picking up their new camper and camping their way across the #country with my sisters. and im sure someone probably told me the dates of these things at some point but if u tell me dates i will #instantly forget them. so thats. ya kno. happening over basically the next 2 weeks while i have to kill myself over measurements for a #different study i dont care abt. and like. its fine. ill see them mid may for a different planned trip. it just makes me kinda sad #a product of living halfway across the country i guess. im just inherently more disconnected to everyone. i would suspect thsts semi #intentional subconsciously. u cant b upset abt not being able to connect with ppl if you create enough physical distance that u never see #them in the 1st place. u cant misunderstand me if i make myself absent and unknowable. idk. i was explaining to my mum that i didnt realize #the timeline and she was like. understandable whatever u wanna do! and idk y that upsets me so much. i guess its just that i dont want to b #doing this. its causing me pain but dont kno how to articulate it in a way that makes sense. whatever. my mouth hurts. my lips r so chapped #that the irritation is spread past my lip line. probably doesnt help thst i keep rubbing at it lol. anyway things r still annoying #less soul crushing thsn last week but still frustrating #unrelated

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niuxita21 · 1 year

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Wake up babe (pun intented), new fave sleeping position between two characters who clearly have feelings for each other but aren’t quite there yet just dropped

#madre solo hay dos #el embarcadero #ana servín #mariana herrera #alejandra leyva #verónica alfaro #shitty screencap posts (TM)#you thought I was done? think again #after I made the connection to el embarcadero I couldn't unsee it #because it's kind of perfect how BOTH couples at the point in their story where this happens #have already had moments that make it very clear that there's something more than friendship going on between them #and are actually on the brink of major forward movement in their romantic relationship #(well in the case of ana and mariana I can only assume but I feel like it's a safe assumption nonetheless)#but they're in denial or pretending like it's nothing and they're actually just good friends #however while they're sleeping and they're not in control of their bodies this is how they gravitate towards each other #not fully spooning or cuddling but also with no artificial distance between #falling instead into this midpoint of subconscious physical contact that is a brilliant metaphor for their current relationship statuses #oh oh AND ANOTHER THING #the fact that the one who is half spooning the other one is also the half of the couple that has one foot out the door #alex thinking about pursuing something with conrado (having already slept with him in the previous episode)#and mariana still thinking about being 'free' of the fake relationship among other things so that she can go back to ferrán #whereas both vero and ana who it could be said would be happy to start a relationship with the other woman if she only said the word #are facing away and keeping their arms to themselves #just... *chef's kiss*#(yeah yeah none of this was intentional probably #but neither were the points of comparison I found in my comparative literature essays in uni and they still gave me As for them so)#anyway don't worry I think I'm definitely done with the unhinged posts about this episode (for now) (maybe)

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bumpscosity · 1 year

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I don’t think I ever posted abt this but I think it’s funny anyways last time I went to disneyland I went on so many rides that when I got in the car to go home I put my seatbelt on and for a split second I freaked out bc I couldn’t find the yellow strap to pull on 💀

#this happened bc I went on smugglers run and star tours so many times btw #it had become ingrained in my head that before ANYTHING gets moving you’ve gotta pull on the yellow strap #in that split second I was genuenly scared that I wouldn’t be able to get home bc I didn’t have a yellow strap to pull on #this is what star tours does to a mfer #i wonder how often stuff like this happens to ppl who go all the time #sassy speaks #sw #dl #for context for ppl who haven’t been to disney rides usually have a yellow strap on the seatbelts #that you pull on so the cast members can confirm that you have it on and also that it’s secure #usually at some point on my trips pulling on it becomes a subconscious thing #like I don’t even wait for them to ask me to I just buckle in and IMMEDIATELY start pulling on it it’s kinda funny #I’m especially egregious abt this on star tours bc boarding takes FOREVER #bc the cast member has to come in and press a shitton of buttons #so I’m sitting there for like a solid minute tugging on the yellow tab subconsciously like my life depends on it #star tours is a fun one to watch the cast member on bc all the control panels are on full display #i still havent figured out exactly when they take the spy pic I’m sure others have done sloothing I need to look into that #but it’s cool there’s a panel that has a light for each seat and the lights light up if the seatbelt is secured #so you kinda get to sit there and go ‘why did that mfer in the back row on the right not put their seatbelt on yet wtf’#star tours cast members are the real ones shoutout to all the cast members who have ever worked star tours #and watched me get on it like 4 times in a row and didn’t comment on it 🫡#I DIDNT MEAN TO MAKE A TAG WALL HOW DO I MANAGE TO INFODUMP ABT STAR TOURS ON EVERY POST I MAKE 💀

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nomaishuttle · 1 year

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i think analyzing dreams is very fun but also i think a lot of it is psuedoscience yk. and also straightup it wouldnt make sense for evey single type of dream to mean the same thing for everybody bc we all have different brains and associate things differently yk.

#my cousin had a little likee. dream analyzing guidebook #and i always thoght it was silly bc like. you and the suthor of this book dont have the same memories or experiences associated 2ith #car crashes or eith losing teeth. they mean different things to you and your s #ubconscious.. maybe there r some overlaps maybe there r some common like. yk. carcrashes r pretty universally bad so maybe for most ppl #they represent pain or loss of control. but like #idk. i dont think u can be like 'dreaming of a mother cat and her kittens means you are going to have a baby soon!' works bc like #idk. different ppl could have totally different associations subconsciously

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autball · 2 months

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MASKING MYTHS BUSTED: “Masking = Acting NT.”

FALSE.

Autistic masking does not necessarily mean “pretending to be allistic/neurotypical," although you’d definitely be forgiven for thinking it does.

Non-autistic researchers have been referring to it as “camouflaging” for years, framing it as an intentional choice to suppress autistic traits and replace them with allistic ones in order to “blend in.” Doing an internet search on the term will return several similar results.

But now, Autistic researchers are in the game, and their take is much more nuanced and comprehensive than that. (Funny how that happens, isn’t it?)

They’ve found that:

- It CAN be intentional but is often subconscious and involuntary

- It is a protective response to trauma and feeling unsafe

- It is often about suppressing more than just autistic traits

- It is about identity management and being able to predict how people will treat you, not just “blending in”

Some people will lean into being “the bad kid” because they know that’s what people expect of them. Some people will even act “more autistic” because they know that’s what people expect of them. Others still will do things to attract attention in controllable, more “acceptable” ways to avoid attracting attention in unsafe, more stigmatizing ways. Not because they WANT to be that way, but because it lets them predict people’s responses better, which feels safer.

Also, there are Autistic people who can’t “pass” for non-autistic no matter how hard they try. That doesn’t mean they’re not masking. They may actually be working hard to suppress A LOT, they just can’t do everything to neuronormative standards.

None of these people will be accused of “blending in,” yet they are still masking their hearts out. When we assume they are not, we miss all the harm that masking is causing them. But they are suppressing themselves and suffering the consequences of that just as much as any Autistic person whose mask successfully says, “Hey, I’m just like you!”

(For more on this, please see the work of Dr. Amy Pearson and Kieran Rose.)

#autism #autistic #actually autistic #autistic experiences #autistic masking

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onesweetbeautifulsong · 4 months

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hrrngh

#you would think nine years after graduation would be long enough for me to stop having dreams about the guy i had an out of control crush on #(and overall very tumultuous friendship with) dying #and it's a dream so of course it feels real for a hot second when i wake up!#and it makes me want to check in on him!#cause things ended badly and we haven't spoken in years #but i still want to make sure that someone i WAS friends with at one point hasn't died some horrible tragic death without me knowing #subconscious can we PLEASE get it together i am NOT supposed to care anymore!#my post #text

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justanechoflower-ddlc · 7 months

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(Maybe this when combined with the drawing you made will give you an idea what it was. Or at least something believable enough for Flowey. Turns out some of the formatting goes away though, so I’ll have to reconstruct the formatting from the copy I made. Also, somehow, it’s an older version. At least the actual text is there, even if which are italics and which are bold isn’t, and the alterations since then were mostly just the author notes, and a line from Yuri, which I can mostly reconstruct.)

>#We’re in agreement about the restarts, then. I haven’t had to restart at all since after the player left, but I wasn’t in the club at all then, so that doesn’t count. But now you can see why I’m trying not to get too close to them knowing, even if I can technically undo any mistakes as long as none of them get to the point where they have console access.

>#I’ve already mentioned how I was a different person in my actual first impressions. Then again, perhaps separating my first observations from my first judgements would still help? I’ll probably try to do literary analysis on the poems, and then “try and work out“ who’d make a poem with that kind of meaning. I actually recognize two of the poems as the same ones from earlier timelines:Amy Likes Spiders and Ghost Under The Light.

>#Also, you got all of them right this time! The meanings of the poems are deeper than that, but I suppose you wouldn’t know that. Except maybe Amy Likes Spiders. I’ll show you how you could have worked that one out.

Monika:Okay, I think I’ve got it! We’ll start with Amy Likes Spiders! Monika:So, this LOOKS like a simple case of the speaker being disgusted by someone liking spiders. But looking closely, there are clear cases of “Amy” actually being helpful, and the speaker clearly just crushing it off because… well, Amy likes spiders! And the narrator saying it doesn’t matter if they keep it private, or has other hobbies. So this poem seems intentionally designed so that we’re not supposed to agree with the speaker. If we were supposed to agree, those lines giving the very reasons why Amy liking spiders doing no harm, and the narrator just brushing them aside, wouldn’t have been a part of the poem!

Monika:So we’re clearly meant to see them as someone needlessly judging a nice person over a completely harmless hobby, even if that hobby is what might be considered “gross” in social circles. Amy even keeps it private, so nobody even has to watch her! And here the speaker is about to tell everyone about it!

*Natsuki is trying not to show she’s glad that Monika gets it. She’s… mostly successful?*

(After all, a clear reaction to an analysis of a poem could give away that it’s YOUR poem.)

Monika:Now, Natsuki has stated multiple times today that the point of this club is that it’s a place where you can act as yourself, and NOT be judged for it. That might even be why she joined in the first place… that is one of the things that were on the banners for the club, after all. So this seems like a moral Natsuki would really want to give. Sayori… probably wouldn’t have wrote this. While she’d certainly also agree with the moral of the poem, she just doesn’t strike as someone who’d make a poem whose sole purpose is how a certain kind of person is really dumb! That’s a Natsuki thing, with those times she used “dummy” today!

Monika:Now, maybe it makes sense for Yuri to write a poem like this? I don’t really think this would be her poem, though, Natsuki is a much better fit, and there’s actually another poem I think has to be Yuri’s. Speaking of, Ghost Under the Light!

Monika:I can’t say I know exactly what this one means. This looks like a case of worrying about the future, but it also looks like a bit more than that. The title is “Ghost Under The Light”, the speaker is living in the past, but taking air from the present, and is the one flickering back when the light flickers. Could the speaker be a ghost themselves? Also, it seems the place has been abandoned for a while, as if it became a ghost town.

Monika:There definitely seems like there’s a deeper meaning to this poem, I just can’t pin it down yet. I’ll have to think about it more later… But I’ve read into it enough to say that this is a Yuri poem! There is NO way that Natsuki could have made this, it just doesn’t fit someone full of energy and with a sort of blunt personality. The wording choice seems to be trying to find out fancier words, which is probably the opposite of how Nastuki does things, from how she’s spoken before. Similarly, Sayori wouldn’t have put this much focus in choosing fancy words, her style is more like… well, I think I’ll share after Buttercup does his guesses. Then we can see if he’s already worked out Sayori’s style!

Monika:But really, this reads like a Yuri poem. She’s the one who decided to be formal when we first stepped foot in the clubroom, after all. That puts Amy Likes Spiders as a Natsuki poem, which leaves Shining Stars as a Sayori poem!

Monika:I’ll get to what I think that one is about once the authors are revealed, and we start giving each other feedback. I know Sayori better than Buttercup does, from my time helping her with ideas for this club, and I’ve used a bit of that to help me interpret the poem. But process of elimination is already enough for me to say this is a Sayori poem. She’s the only one I didn’t already match a poem with!

Monika:And separately, it just doesn’t make sense for a Natsuki poem, there isn’t really a moral that jumps out at you, lines designed specifically to make it clearer, like Amy Likes Spiders does, and we already know how blunt Natsuki can be.

Sayori:Oh, that sounded awesome!

Yuri:That was… an interesting reading. I won’t comment on how well you did with the guessing, since Buttercup still needs to make his guesses. But the fact you found such an insightful interpretation of Amy Likes Spiders shows you’re good with poetry. I’m interested to see what you think of the other two poems…

Natsuki:And you were afraid you’d blunder it! *laughter* Like Yuri, I can’t tell you if your guesses were right or wrong yet. But even if it was all wrong, those have so much thought into them that anyone would have to be a DUMMY to think you did horrible!

*Monika gives the poem copies to Flowey. No, they don’t have notes on them, it’s just the poems.*

Monika:Just in case you need to read them again… Whenever you’re ready, you can start your guessing.

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(Well, looks like she did better than she thought. Really, Monika, your odds were much better than you thought they were, you weren’t a literature club president for nothing, after all. Messing up with Sayori wouldn’t be nearly as bad as messing up the others, since Sayori could easily just say she told Monika any details about herself that Monika used that weren’t mentioned in the clubroom. Just don’t let it get to your head or you might somehow mess up with Sayori, or you might try to go for Yuri’s poem and mess that one up.

(Oh, and I found where Yuri explains her poem in-game. Se seems to be interested in making poems that readers can get their own meanings from, as she describes “The Recoon” as a poem everyone can relate to in their own way. She might be a fan of the theory of the Death of the Author, where the main thing that matters to how valid an interpretation is is how well it’s supported by the text, regardless of whether or not that meaning was intentional by the author.)

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I'll start with shining stars. This poem is about someone who has found something important to them! It seems to be falling apart gradually, so the speaker keeps putting her hope into it to keep it going. Unfortunately, doing this becomes more and more difficult as she grows exhausted of trying to keep this important thing going.

This person...

Is Sayori! As the president of the literature club, you must worry about keeping the club going. We were worring earlier about if anyone in the future would be interested joining the club, and though Monika participates in the worry most, it also is your concern if I get to say! That's why I was brought in to ensure the future grades will be interested in joining even when you're in college.

And Monika didn't even bring a poem, even though she probably does have at least one since she technically started the literature club and likes poetry... Oh well, it's her choice to be a scaredy-cat!

The spider poem is obviously Natsuki's considering how blunt she tend to be. Which I came up with this piece of evidence on my own, I am NOT copying from Monika's response! Although I did originally think Natsuki just didnt like some spider girl and not that the poem was trying to make the speaker sound bad on purpose, which makes a lot more sense. So I guess that part I was wrong about.

Building off of that, it makes sense Natsuki would make a poem about not wanting to be judged! One of the first things she talked about was how she brought manga before and was upset for Yuri judging her, thinking they're something like picture books for overgrown babies, but that's not true! Some manga are.... Heehee.... A little too violent for children.

Now for the last one. Ghost in the light has to be Yuri's not only because it's the last option, but also because of her sometimes shy, ghostlike nature and formal style of writing. This poem is about someone who dreads the future and feels comfortable living in the past. It's inevitable to be pushed out into the future which is why the light flickers, and the speaker flickers because it is unhealthy be stubborn to move on. This is why you describe the green-blue light of the future as sickening! Although I don't understand why you would have a problem with-

...

*Flowey stops abruptly. If what he's thinking is true, this could ruin the entire plan.*

(No. Monika doesn't exist In this world. Yuri can't be uneasy with her or Sayori for the power they have because she doesn't know. But what if it's like resets in my world and they still somewhat remember? It'd be impossible to explain to them smoothly without worrying them even more and ruining the entire club's relationship if Yuri is already distasteful of Sayori and Monika! Ah, but who would represent amber...? No one looks too brown-y or orang-y here. Maybe I'm overthinking it?)

Blue... Green... Why those colors specifically? And Amber? Haha, I'd think you'd choose purple to be your comfort color, Yuri! Now, I think what I said so far was a pretty good lead but I don't know your past or worries in detail so you should explain it yourself if it was correctly you that made it. After all, I'm here to learn more about my smart new friends! *Flowey hugs Yuri, smiling sweetly and hoping to make her comfortable enough to confirm or debunk his suspicions.*

#Flowey was thinking the blue-green light represented sayori-monika #And it's sickening because they kept messing with the timeline in the past and she is whether subconsciously or fully aware #And worried if one of them would mess everything up again in the future #i made him say this base off of my theories although not exactly #i was thinking the blue-green light represented the same thing #Except the comforting light of the lamp post would be MC (AKA Ivan) which Yuri felt was the only good thing #And so the other girls meddling would pose a threat to that so therefore she grows a distaste towards the other girls #Except Sayori and Monika specifically because Natsuki doesn't have control over the files and is therefore less of a threat #and this would still be possible even though Monika and MC are technically gone #Because the poem's they are scripted to write are not reset and therefore even though the original meaning if the poem can change #The words don't #And this might be the original meaning #Idk if it's too farfetched but I thought it was an interesting idea #oh also words in parentheses are flowey thinking #art #ask flowey #ask undertale #crossover #doki doki literature club #flowey #paper art #submission #undertale #undertale fanart #monika ddlc #sayori ddlc #natsuki ddlc #yuri ddlc #poetry #long post

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