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HBO Harry Potter reboot this, diverse cast that, LGBT rep this, marauders that... Guys, JKR is an executive producer, she's gonna keep it exactly like her books. As much as I would love a black Hermione and a Desi bisexual Harry and canon wolfstar and an explicitly gay Dumbledore and everything, this is JKR we're talking about. Let's all face the truth, she's pushing for this reboot because she's mad the original cast is pro trans rights and wants to erase them from hp pop culture. The biggest difference might be Peeves being included.
(I'm keeping my hopes down because I'm tired of JKR crushing them)
#harry potter#harry potter hbo max#hp reboot#hp marauders#wolfstar#black hermione granger#desi harry potter#peeves the poltergeist
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Feel free to ignore, but-
Do you think it's wrong or hypocritical to be excited for the HP reboot? Like, I am beyond excited and really hopeful that it will turn out well since they can go in depth more for the books, but of course, JKR has kinda... gone off the deep end. again, I want to watch this show unironically, and I am so happy we get new content, but I hesitate to show excitement because of JKR and her opinions. IDK it's just something I've been thinking about a lot recently. I don't want to seem like I support her, because I don't, but at the same time the idea of a reboot fills me with a lot of joy and excitement.
Hello, anon, and thank you for your question! I have been thinking about it as well, and it's a discussion I've seen on Discord, here on Tumblr, and elsewhere in the world. To answer your question, I am going to give you a long-winded answer. I will provide you a short tl;dr of my opinion and then get into it below the cut.
The tl;dr: I don't think it's wrong or hypocritical to be excited about the reboot, as long as you're conscientious about the way you engage with new merchandise and media. I see it the same way as how we interact with most evils of the world. Is it cheaper/easier/faster to buy on Amazon? Oh yes. Does it line Jeff Bezos's pockets? Also yes. Is it avoidable? For most people, yes. Not for everyone, and not for everything. Ditto for Walmart in the USA. The key difference I see with the HP reboot is that it's associated with HBO Max and Warner Brothers, so there are these two entities involved, that, if you truly wanted to boycott and not support any finances going to JKR, you'd have to cut off these services. That being said, it can be done. No one needs HBO Max or WB to live. However, because it's part of this bundled service that provides other media/goods, it requires closer examination. Moreover, there is value to engaging critically and conscientiously with the intersection between institutions, cultural phenomena, and social justice. The world isn't morally black and white,* and our engagement with it shouldn't be black and white either.
And now for the essay, below the cut.
Have you ever seen The Good Place? It's one of my favorite shows. There's this one clip about the point system, meaning the way people go to The Good Place/The Bad Place, or a Heaven/Hell equivalent, and one of the issues is that no one has been good enough to get to The Good Place for hundreds of years. Why? The world is smaller and more complicated. This clip will show you what this means.
Why mention this? Well, it helps to explain what our role is, or could be, in a world in which cooperation with one entity or person necessarily means cooperation with more forces around us. Take HBO Max, whose parent company is HBO, whose parent company is Warner Media. WM also owns CNN, CartoonNetwork, DC, TNT, TBS, Warner Brothers, adult swim, etc. If you choose not to see the HP reboot and dissociate yourself completely from any entity that puts money in JKR's pockets, you need to avoid not only HBO, but anything Warner Media produces. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't do this - it's up to the individual to determine what they deem acceptable and morally good.
We have to go further. Take CNN: their money goes to Warner Media, which helps to fund the HP reboot. Does this mean that any establishment that plays CNN in the background (hotel, restaurant, bar, etc.) should be avoided? If we're going to be very strict about this, then yes. CNN isn't a necessary good. You can get news from other sources, and you can stay in hotels, go to restaurants, etc., that don't play CNN, or just ask them to change the channel.
But then, where's CNN getting their money? We ought to look at their advertisers and see which companies we should boycott. Among such advertisers: Humira and GEICO. Now you can say - wait, Humira is an important medication for lots of people. GEICO you could do without, there are other insurance companies. I haven't even touched who the CEOs are for these companies and what money they're paying lobbyists, consultants, and other entities to keep their market share. Humira keeps getting new patents and indication uses on it so Abbvie can charge a premium and not give its formula away for generic production. They're making shitloads of money to keep the product patented.
Now you may say, Celeste, what does this have to do with trans rights? Abbvie makes money, pays money to advertise on CNN, CNN gives some of that money to Warner, Warner uses that money to make HP reboot. Money flows in and out. I will grant you this: it is very remote, but think about every entity that flows in and out of this cycle.
I ask my students about this all the time: is there any possible way to be completely free of ethical or moral complications in a world like this? The answer is obviously no. So the question becomes what can we do about it, other than retreating to the mountains and living as hermits (and by the way, that's actually a terrible decision, because if you subscribe to the belief that I do that we have a moral duty to help others, you're certainly not helping anyone by disengaging from the world and avoiding problems because they make you feel uncomfortable.)
So what is it that we can do? Let's think seriously about what it is we struggle with. We don't want money going to JKR, but as I just demonstrated, you'd have to go to various possible lengths to do this. It's possible, but let me ask another question: is the time, effort, and energy you're putting into this actually improving the lives of trans people? Is it actually improving the local laws and policies that put trans people's lives at risk? It's easier to pinpoint one person as our problem and the face of evil, but that gives too much power to one person. In fact, the power sits more with you than with her.
That doesn't mean it's a bad thing to feel uncomfortable. It doesn't mean it's a bad or even a pointless thing to avoid the HP reboot and all its associated entities at all costs. You are most welcome to do so; you are also welcome to watch the show with a very critical lens/eye on the world around you.**
I would ask, if you're of the inclination to avoid all the associated entities of the HP reboot (CNN, Humira, GEICO, and all its other associates), what would happen if you invested the same time and energy into local groups, charities, and organizations that support/help trans rights? it may seem smaller, but consider the impact you as an individual can have on a real-life human being in front of you, who needs help, rather than spiting someone else who lives an ocean or more away. You're welcome to spite and help the person in front of you. However, as a comment on human limitations, we all do have to decide our own most personal important issues.
For many of those on Tumblr and younger people on the internet, it can be trans rights. For others, it might be workers' rights. For yet others, nuclear disarmament and peace. Clean water. Clean energy. We all have our pet projects, and that doesn't mean we should neglect other issues, but if we take on everything so strongly, we will not be able to act.
This brings me back to The Good Place and the character of Chidi Anagonye, the moral philosophy professor who cannot act because of his anxiety. He ruins his life, and others', by his indecision over moral quandaries, which appear everywhere.
No, you're not going to be perfect. That's ok. As long as you are trying, in my opinion (which is based on years of studying morality, philosophy, and ethics), you are moving in the right direction.
My on-the-ground moral recommendations: it's OK to see the HP reboot if you're already subscribing to HBO Max or plan to for other things. I might also recommend doing on the ground, in person or monetary efforts to help trans people with basic human rights like housing, food, and personal safety. That, the personal connections and improvements we make, will be far more effective at making the world a safer place for trans people than continuing to center the argument on JKR. She is but one person, and so are you. You may not be as wealthy, but you have a voice, and using it in your own locality/context will do far more good.
You're most welcome to send questions or ask for clarifications.
*(I will add, as an aside and more of my own opinion, that the black and white thinking I find among people of all backgrounds is more or less a defense mechanism against having to critically reflect/think deeply about what makes us uncomfortable and navigating confrontations or things that challenge our worldviews. Human beings are really terrible with cognitive dissonance and we don't like looking at ourselves in a bad light, and I mean that in the way that white people can sometimes get uncomfortable with the concept of white privilege. It's not a slight against the individual white person but rather a phenomenon to sit with, reflect on, and pledge to improve.)
**I would also like to address the contrast between the HP reboot and Hogwarts Legacy. Unlike the HP reboot, HL is its own entity and far easier to avoid, because you have to buy the actual game. But again, if you want to avoid any/all money going from Hogwarts Legacy and its makers to JKR, you'd have to avoid gaming systems, stores that sell the game, and all those involved in creating it. That being said, HL and the reboot are QUITE different because one must be purchased as a separate entity while the HP reboot will presumably be available via streaming, which means it's bundled with other shows and services, which is what complicates this. If the HP reboot were only available as a DVD or online purchase, I would have further questions, and I think it wouldn't sell for that reason exactly, based on the backlash to HL.
Edits, a few hours after the original post:
After doing some discussion with valued fandom friends, I thought it important to add a few considerations.
First, an immediate consideration: deeply consider the way you and others are discussing the show. Though it might not seem like a big thing, enthusiastic support, without considering the ramifications the show has for people in the trans community, and/or trans allies, will distance those people in the fandom. One way to do this is to keep discourse private among friends, and/or to refrain from discussing it at all in public spaces. Think of the message it potentially sends to trans folks/trans allies to be enthusiastic without considering the underlying messages you are sending in support of JKR and her views.
Second, a longer term consideration: one way to curtail or curb the success of the show (though highly unlikely) is to wait to see it until it is cancelled or complete. That's a long wait, potentially, but it would reduce the immediate views and support for the show. That's not necessarily a perfect solution, but it might be the one that says "we're not going to give this our immediate attention, and we are willing to wait until it's not as profitable or important." This isn't necessarily a perfect solution, but it may be one of the most ethical ones if you're very interested in seeing the show.
Please do send questions and comments if you have them.
#asks#send asks#harry potter#hp reboot#harry potter reboot#philosophy#morality#got my professor hat on
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Timotheé is great and all but he’s not British and WB only casts UK actors/actresses for the HP saga. So (not that I’m being listened to by the reboot crew or anything) WB, I present:
The Black brothers.
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They’ll never do it but if I was rebooting HP i would literally start off in the Marauders’ first year and have a degrassi-style graduating cohort every year so we can see the entire transition from each year and each headppl. Then, I would change the plot by literally making every ship gay to give the AO3 readers what they want. Cause i mean the faithful adaptations’ already been done. Like literally I would make Dorcas/Marlene canon. Wolfstar is definitely canon. Jily is a thing for the first 2 seasons but I would literally create a fan poll to see if the mob wants jegulus, jily or jegulily.
I wouldn’t go fully into Order of the Pheonix. I’d hint abt the first war but it’d be through whispers and rumours to keep Hogwarts the main focus. Then, I would unkill everyone. I might still have Peter betray them or maybe I won’t- Maybe, he almost breaks but in this reality the marauders are good friends and they manage to save him somehow.
Then if my Max series somehow doesn’t get cancelled, I’d do Golden Trio era but like mostly focused on the weasleys and what they got up to. The trio can still be a thing but we’ve already seen their story. Like we’ll get an in depth character analysis of Ginny and her rs with Tom Riddle. Then, we are gonna have dramoine surprise get tgt. Because in this ver., Harry is a little bit more mentally stable (assuming his parents are still around or like trapped in a mirror or idk how it wld work but MAGIC). Maybe, Harry can explore his bisexuality and hook up with Cedric or Cho or Oliver Wood. We can see what everyone’s been up to. Maybe, do the grindeldore flashbacks some justice (have someone finally see their entire love story). We can see more of Luna’s future beau or Luna can be with Harry (we all know mentally stable Harry wld be more of a whore). I’d still talk about the wizarding war and Voldy will still be a thing but his story will be more fleshed out through Ginny and maybe Draco. Then, it’d end with the grand finale where they have an epic-ish battle. Maybe some ppl can die or maybe not. I wld still kill some ppl for PLOT but Dobby can keep his sock.
Then, once everything is over and all the ships are messed up. I will do some mental gymnastics and plot acrobatics to somehow make next gen hp characters a thing so I can fully showcase Teddy Lupin (yes blue hair teddy. Idk maybe Nymphadora was a surrogate or they had a thing but wolfstar would still be alive and endgame). Then, we can have Victorie Weasley, other Weasleys etc. Eventually, we’ll hit cursed child era but instead of the nonsense we got, I’ll stop milking the dead dick of Voldy and come up with a brand new facist villain. Maybe it’ll be the ministry or like the Elf enslavers? Deep dive into Kreacher? Politician!Dobby? More “dark creatures” at the sch? Possibilities are endless!!
HBO MAX pls hire me. Also, im not straight or white so you best believe we are going to add real diversity and not just racebend or genderbend for the sake of diversity.
Anyways just my thoughts on the reboot. Im prepared for disappointment esp w the recent hp discourse but oh well.
#hp#marauders era#marauders#wolfstar#jegulus#starchaser#hp next gen#golden trio#voldemort#grindeldore#harry potter#hogwarts#ao3#hp reboot
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Okay tumblrinxs, I’m sure we’ve all heard the news: HBOMax and Warner Brothers are rebooting Harry Potter, turning it into a proposed series that covers the original books (as well as a sequel to the books I’ve read in some articles). I’m anti this reboot and I wanna share my thoughts. Let’s go!
It’s a boot not a reboot: It’s been less than 12 years since Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 came out (2011). I’m not sure what the reboot time frame is, but 12 years seems too soon to me. Warner Bros also announced they’d be rebooting Lord of the Rings (also hate) BUT Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King came out 20 years ago (2003), which makes it feel like more of a reboot to me.
The JK Rowling of it all: I really really hate that she’s involved, and I hate even more that she’ll make money off of it. It kind of feels like Warner Bros. is not only supporting her in a way, but also trying to capitalize off of all the bad publicity she’s been getting over the years. She is transphobic, and has shown us time and time again that she has no interest in learning or correcting herself. She doubles down every time someone tries to correct her/ teach her which makes me really pessimistic about the opportunity Warner Bros. has to correct the problematic parts of the movies and even the books.
Can Harry Potter be wokified? In my opinion, the fact that JK Rowling is involved means no. Again, she has a habit of doubling down rather than stepping back and accepting that she’s wrong. This leads me to believe that the issues that fans have brought up will be ignored. A small part of me still hopes that maybe they’ll change Cho Chang’s name and introduce more diversity in the cast among other things. It’s not 2011 anymore, so to re-release a series with these issues would be crazy to see (or if you decide not to watch, read about on tumblr)!
A sign of impending doom? Probably not. But hey, maybe. The fact that Warner Bros is deciding to reboot a series after 12 years makes me think that they for some reason believe they won’t be able to reboot it in 20 or 30 years. Are they concerned about climate change? Shifting supply chains and lack of resources in order to create the movies? The collapse of human civilization as we know it? Who knows if they’re concerned, but I definitely am. And maybe this Harry Potter reboot is the newest harbinger of the apocalypse.
#last one is kind of dramatic but my climate anxiety is real#me#mine#please be nice to me#just my opinion#lets talk about it#harry potter fandom#harry potter reboot#hp reboot#warner bros#let me know what you think#i love to discuss things#fanfiction#harry potter#tumblr#my thoughts#hp fandom#my opinion#anti jkr#hbo
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They will recast Severus Snape, i'm very excited but also nervous at the same time lmao
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The only thing I'm looking forward to for HP reboot are the swathes of critics who will be tearing it a structurally superfluous new behind
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I don't really care much about the Harry Potter's HBO reboot.
J.K should have given us another book instead. A book that starts after the events of the battle of Hogwarts. Ginny being a professional Quidditch player. Ron and Harry being aurors. Hermione with her activism for Elfs rights, amongst other ministry duties. George trying to navigate the world without his other half, his twin brother.
Harry raising little Teddy Lupin, including the possible moment when Teddy calls him 'Dada', and that's his first word. I can imagine Harry bawling his eyes out after thinking that Remus' son was destined to share the same fate as he did, but at least he has people who truly love him and accept him for who he is.
Give me grandparents!Molly and Arthur, holding their first grandchild.
Unalive Umbridge
There's so many things this author could do to keep expanding our HP knowledge, and she decided to reboot the freaking HP movies instead! 🥴
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I will forever not be over how miscast the Potters were. James Potter was 21 when he died.
This man is NOT 21. .............. THIS one is.
Maybe they thought that looked too young on screen, but they WERE young and it's SAD because Lily and James had THEIR WHOLE LIVES ahead of them. Even Sirius and Remus die tragically young! 36 and 38!
I hope HBO/MAX fixes this in the reboot. It also makes comments from Sirius and Remus and everyone else about Harry looking like his father hit home because they remember him at that age and not much older ever.
#when you're a kid it doesn't matter as much#but once you are james potter's age and older you're like HOLY SH**#james potter#harry potter#lily potter#lily evans#wizarding world#hp reboot
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So a HP television series has been confirmed. An adaptation of the books, same as the movies.
This is an awful idea (imo)
#she doesn't need money#why keep giving her money?#so ahe can put it into harmful ideologies#jk rowling can suck eggs#hp reboot#besides hp isn't even that old#make something new#theres plenty of magic schools to adapt#harry potter
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honestly i keep going back and forth whether i'm excited or terrified of HP being rebooted. daniel, emma and rupert are my harry, hermione and ron and so are they to soooo many more people out there. the films are more well known than the books at this point so these people are the ones who most see as the characters.
i just feel like this isn't coming from a pure place of telling a ''more accurate story'' but rather to push the kids out who don't agree with her views. because dan and emma didn't want to make a cursed child movie. because the fantastic beasts movies flopped. why couldn't they have made a movie about the hogwarts founders or the marauders or a modern story about kids in 2020 going to hogwarts?
it feels as big as if they rebooted the original star wars story about luke skywalker and darth vader. like the original is already so well known and perfect, why mess with it? i just feel all kinds of ways about it
#harry potter#harry potter reboot#hp reboot#i probably won't be at ease with this until we get more details about it#who will play who and who and what will be changed#sigh
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when the hp reboot comes out i dont want to see anyone bullying the actors. yes, no ones wants this. yes, the money is going to fund transphobic laws and groups. yes, that doesnt give you the right to tell 11 year old children to kill themselves
#jk rowling#harry potter#hp#harry potter tv show#harry potter series#harry potter reboot#harry potter hbo max#celebrities#my property#hbo
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Wait wait wait.
The racist homophobic terf is going to put this much unlimited power in the hands of WB writers?
Ah yes. I’m sure Sirius and Lupin being slurred at by Sirius’ bigoted mom while they try to close the curtains of her portrait to keep themselves safe will bring absolutely no symbolism from any writing team doing a project in 2027 (at the earliest). None at all.
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i hate the harry potter series reboot, but i also hate the predominant reason why most people hate it. 'i won't support it bc daniel, emma and rupert will always be the trio for me', 'i won't support it bc i want a show about the marauders'. thats cool but i thought we weren't gonna support it bc she's transphobic.
#and i have seen ppl speak abt her being transphobic#and the hp series being rooted in racism and antisemitism#yet the main reason ppl seem to hate it is bc they think its too soon for a reboot??#fuck jkr#anti jkr#anti jk rowling#harry potter
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2000's Trio 2020's Trio
Imagine how great it would be if the PJO show is successful and gets the Harry Potter treatment where we get to see these kids grow up throughout the show!
If the Golden Trio was our big 2000's trio, I hope the Original Trio will be our big 2020's trio💙💙💙
#these are my 2 favorite middle grade book series and I'd love if I can have well done adaptations for both of them to squeal over#I actually didn't get into the HP movies until they were all well done and over with#so i didn't really get to 'grow up' with the characters in real time as the movies were coming out#so I'm really hoping I'll get that chance with the actors in the PJO series#how cool would it be to watch the Original Trio and the rest of CHB grow up alongside the show in real time?#also my mom and I love marathoning HP together and I'm really hoping the PJO show can be the next big thing we obsess over together#I convinced her to watch PJO with me be telling her PJO is like HP and showing her the trailer and musical songs#she was interested and said she's into mythology too so its a start!#tbh I'm looking forward to the PJO show way more than the HP reboot#mostly because I'm so attacted to the films and think they're pretty good adaptations even if they're not perfect#but with PJO we don't have any GOOD and FAITHFUL adaptations at all#what movies? there are no PJO movies#I still might give the HP reboot a watch esp. if its good but still. the movies mean so much to me#i love both series and there's nothing wrong with that#please be nice#percy jackson#percy jackson and the olympians#percy jackson tv show#disney+#the original trio#annabeth chase#grover underwood#harry potter#harry potter movies#harmione granger#ron weasley#the golden trio#harry potter reboot#hbo max#2000s trio and 2020s trio
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Feel like the only reason they're making an Hp reboot is bc they're worried PJO will become more popular and relevant with the Disney+ show coming out
#AS IT SHOULD BE#WE'RE IN THE DEMIGOD ERA NOW#pjo#percy jackson#pjo series#pjo tv#pjo disney+#hp hbo#hbo#annabeth chase#harry potter#hp#harry potter reboot#draco Malfoy#hoo#heros of olympus#nico di angelo
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