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morgangalaxy43 · 2 days

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Batman had more chemistry with Joker in this one scene than he did with Batgirl in the entire movie

#bruce wayne #batman #joker #batjokes #barbara gordon #batgirl #batman the killing joke #dc comics

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nefarious-616-necromancer · 4 months

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joxster-blog · 6 months

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And so I continue the "past vs. present", my Jack and Jeannie vs. Joker and Harley fanarts.

Colored versions soon.

Uncensored versions are available on my deviantart:

Jack and Jeannie - table scene - lineart

Joker and Harley - table scene - lineart

#joker #the joker #harley quinn #jack napier #jeannie #batman the killing joke #pre-joker #clown prince of crime #joker harley #jack jeannie #dc fanart #harleen quinzel

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samasmith23 · 2 months

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My reaction to the Star Wars Prequel haters in a nutshell:

From Batman: The Killing Joke by Alan Moore & Brian Bolland.

#star wars prequels #prequel haters are so annoying #screw red letter media #screw mr plinkett #batman #bruce wayne #the joker #batman the killing joke #alan moore #brian bolland #80s comics #dc comics

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paprikaries · 1 year

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_APRIL FOOL!_ wip

Fanart/fancomics: Batman / Joker (Batman franchise DC comics / WB)

I wish I had more time to work on this, but I’ll finish it tomorrow. I’ve just created a short comics (two pages) and this is just the opening image.

#april fools #joker #the joker #batman #the batman #Happy Birthday #batman and joker #batman vs joker #batjokes #batboys #joker prince of crime #Batman TAS #batman the killing joke #artist #art of the day #cartoon

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rebelr3bel · 1 year

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the joker and queer coding

and why i consider him to be a queer symbol

* may contain spoilers in regards to the topic listed *

while joker is typically looked at as just a villainous, psychopathic murderer (with the exception of lego batman), when broken down there is much more to be found within his character. there are many reasons as to why i believe joker is queer coded. i mean, he is a representation of chaos and rage; queer rage. he goes against what is considered “normal” in society such as refusing to conform to social norms. an example of this is disregarding how society thinks men “should” act through the way he dresses, the makeup he applies (in most storylines) and how he act’s, showing a more flamboyant demeanor. of course there’s his obvious obsession with batman which i will break down more later on. it’s also important to note that in several of jokers backstories, he is usually seen as an oppressed member of society dealing with things like poverty or mental illness- both of which are unfortunately similar to what LGBTQ+ members often tend to face. joker doesn’t hide his illnesses, or who he really is, instead he’s proud of it. seeing the joker deal with being rejected from society but still remaining his silly little self is something i find to be common and relatable amongst queer people and is why i believe many are drawn to his character… because perhaps they see themselves in him a little bit.

→ the dark knight

the dark knight has one of my favourite portrayals of joker for so many reasons. one of which is the way he adapts to certain situations. not only because he changes the story behind his mouth scars to how he sees fit but also how he tends to change his appearance and actions according to the situation he’s in and who his audience is. i find this similar to how queer people may have to change identities depending on the situation in order to protect themselves and is something i can personally relate to as a queer person myself.

i would also like to note this quote from the film during the interrogation scene with batman and joker…“kill you? i don’t want to kill you! what would i do without you? go back to ripping off mob dealers? no, no, no you… you complete me.” this quote is a clear reference to the romance movie jerry maguire which i think says enough in regards to the jokers feelings towards batman in this film. that same quote is also mentioned in my next topic…

→ the lego batman movie

the entire plot to the lego batman movie is, in short, about how batman needs to open himself up to others and allow more people into his life. this is shown primarily between batman and jokers relationship which is also very queer coded in this film. so much so actually that critics flagged the film as pro-gay propaganda and were angry at the “borderline homoerotic” relationship between the two characters. the lego batman movie is FILLED with romantic undertones. as i mentioned before, the lego batman movie features a romance movie called jerry maguire and this plays an important role in the film. for starters, its the movie batman watches and laughs to and it is referenced in the film. for example, a featured quote from jerry maguire is as follows “Shut up, you had me at hello.” this quote is reiterated by joker near the end of the film when batman makes a whole speech about why the joker should help him save gotham to which he responds “you had me at shut up.”

near the beginning of the movie during joker and batman’s first fight, joker talks about being batman’s greatest enemy which is a reoccurring theme throughout. batman denies such explaining that he is “currently fighting a few different people” (meaning seeing or dating) and proceeds to say “batman doesn’t do ships, as in relationships. there is no us. batman and joker are not a thing. i don’t need you. i don’t need anyone. you mean nothing to me”, hurting the jokers feelings (as clearly shown in his face in the first photo below).

the words “i hate you” are used many times throughout and have romantic connotations to them, i hate you actually means i love you. during the middle of the movie, joker confronts batman again with “do you realize you’ve never said the words… i hate you joker” before confessing himself that he hates batman and when batman shrugs him off, he reveals he is no longer going to be part of a one sided relationship and is moving on. once again these words are used in a romantic sort-of matter in one of the final scenes that is meant to be the solution to all conflict where batman finally admits he hates joker back.

→ batman: the killing joke + batman: white knight

jokers backstory has always been quite a mystery having so many theories as to what it could be but alan moore’s the killing joke is considered to be one of the most clear-cut joker origin stories out there and is my personal favourite. it contains a different outlook on his character before he became the joker, viewing him as a regular guy subjected to poverty, leading him to get wrapped up with the wrong people and suffering through pain after the new loss of his pregnant wife. this comic heavily references the oppression i spoke of earlier which is why i had to include it because even though it is just one of jokers backstories, its an important one to consider when you’re really looking into his character.

remember the batman obsession i spoke about earlier ? the batman white knight comic is a prime example on just how extreme it is. not even 10 pages in, joker talks about how him and batman are “gotham’s favourite power couple” and references make-up sex. his whole life was based around batman to an obsessive extent before becoming jack napier and working alongside him much to batmans dismay. of course we can’t forget these panels either…

from the comics, to the games, to the movies, evidence of joker being a queer coded character is everywhere to be found. if i sat here writing about every single queer thing he has ever done or been involved in, id probably age a few years. in my opinion, he is a truly fascinating character and as odd as it might seem to an outside perspective, i seek comfort in him.

hopefully ive peeked some of your interests relating to the joker and queercoding, feel free to leave me your thoughts or shoot me a message. id love to hear your opinions. perhaps if people actually enjoy this ill make a second part with more topics.

* chase j has an awesome youtube video about the joker being queer as well and thats one of the things that inspired me to write this *

#joker #batman #queer #queer coding #batjokes #the lego batman movie #the dark knight #batman white knight #batman the killing joke #dc #queer rage #bruce wayne #jack napier #character study #comics

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holy-shit-comics · 4 months

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#batman #joker #the joker #the killing joke #dc comics #dc #batman the killing joke

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jokers-bat · 5 months

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Batman: The Killing Joke Review

Initially I wasn’t really interested in this movie but that was largely because of what Joker does to Barbara but I’m sick with Covid and decided to give it a watch so here we are.

Beware!! Spoilers below!!

You’ve been warned!

- Firstly, what the heck?! I know Barbara/Batgirl is an adult here but her and Batman ‘hooking up’ feels weird. Like I was engaged with their fight up until that point. It doesn’t fit the scene, has no impact one what happens after that, and it doesn’t really fit with their established relationship. The whole thing just feels forced.

- The first half of the movie was basically build up for Barbara becoming Oracle and Joker doesn’t even have any involvement or shows up until the second half of the movie.

- Who the heck is this ‘Paris France’ guy? Oops, I don’t actually care. He’s just a random spoiled brat who comes out of nowhere and has a weird crush on Batgirl. Maybe he’s meant to be Batgirl’s nemesis much like how Joker is to Batman? But wait, what’s this movie about again?

- Side note, I actually had to pause the movie a couple of times because some of the dialogue (mainly Batman talking about ‘the abyss’ and to Joker) tickled my writing gears and I had to type them up.

- I just don’t get the whole shooting and r wording Barbara thing. Firstly, it seemed like all Joker did was take pictures of her which still violated her but it doesn’t really fit his character to do that (I know some creeps do it for power but Joker always seemed more of a ‘psychological power over others’ guy to me).

- Also, him doing this just to get Gordon and break him mentally to ‘prove a point’ doesn’t make sense either. Joker doesn’t show up until halfway through and he wants revenge on Gordon? Why? I can see Gordon calling Joker ‘crazy’ and Joker deciding to show him what being crazy is like but there was no contact or mention of him in the beginning. Maybe I’m missing something from the comics that wasn’t included in the movie but Joker has no leg to stand on here!

- To sum up my last two points, Barbara being shot, r wordy photographed, and disabled was completely unnecessary and Joker could have kidnapped Gordon to break him without harming his daughter.

- Joker’s henchmen at his carnival are wasted potential here. Like who are they and how did Joker convince them to join him?

- This movie is good but confusing. For a movie that’s centered around Joker (to the point of his picture being used in the movie image), it feels more about Barbara becoming Oracle than it is about Joker.

- Bonus! That scene in Arkham with Batman and ‘Joker’ was actually kinda sweet. Some real Batjokes material here!…Too bad the real Joker wasn’t actually there though…

#batjokes #joker #batman #batman x joker #dc joker #dc batman #the killing joke #batman the killing joke #batgirl #dc batgirl

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myriaeden · 7 months

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Batgirl Lockscreens

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#batgirl #barbara gordon #batman #batman the killing joke #dc #dc universe #dc animated movie universe #dc animated universe #dcau #lockscreens #batman lockscreens #batgirl lockscreens #robin lockscreens #barbara gordon lockscreens #tara strong #tara strong batgirl #tara strong vo #october 2023

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the-metropolis-marvel · 25 days

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*taps mic* ok...is this thing on?

It is?

Ok got it

*ahem*

I don't care what anyone says, the killing joke is fucking terrible

I know it's written by Allen Moore, who considered "one of the greatest comic authors of all time" but I honestly feel like most of his books are the comic book equivalent of urbanspook

Is watchmen a fantastic critique on superheroes in that era? Absolutely

Do I still hate Allen Moore because he cannot write a single book that doesn't have a woman getting SA'd? Yeah

The killing joke is about the eternal struggle of Batman, Jim Gordon and the Joker, so I'm gonna say this

The shit that happened with Barbara Gordon is fucking horrible and had no reason for it to be in there. There are a multitude of ways that a similar point could be made that didn't involve the unspeakable things that happened to Barbara Gordon, and I know I sound very very similar to the crowd of people going after Hazbin Hotel for having a similar scene between Valentino and Angel Dust

But there is one key difference between the 2 scenes, for Angel Dust that scene was to show the conditions that he was living through daily ,and to show how much of an irredeemable piece of shit val was

But later we get to see Angel's reaction to it, how he deals with trauma, it addresses his suffering and he goes through growth where from the help of people like husk,charlie,cherri,and the rest of the gang, he stands up for himself against Valentino and learns to handle his trauma in a better way while confronting the source

Now what do we get with Barbara Gordon in the story?

What, did you think she would get anything at all?

The only reason she's hurt the way she is in the book was that Jim Gordon needed something to push him over the edge into becoming another Joker, in the context of the killing joke, Barbara is only a means to further her father's story.

I know the book led to oracle but that is only because the book got so popular and the team of writers afterwards made the best out of a very, very bad situation, and ended up making one of the best characters in the history of comics.

I'm of the opinion that Barbara getting paralyzed and losing the Batgirl mantle is something that could've happened without the Joker as a key part. She could've been helping her dad as Batgirl and have gotten trapped under rubble and/or injured in such a way that she was confined to a wheelchair.

She could've been in a car accident, she could've been in a bombing like she is in my au and she's forced to be in a wheelchair.

That's my 2 cents at least

#allen moore critique #killing joke critique #batman the killing joke #joker #barbara gordon #oracle #hazbin hotel #batman

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ordinaryschmuck · 8 months

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It's hard to explain, but this is a perfect example of how Batman quips.

Whenever I see media attempt to make him quip, it's always awkward because writers make him talk like any other superhero. But THIS is how it's done. It's dry, quick, and perfectly timed. I LOVE it.

#batman #joker #batman the killing joke #batman day

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tomoleary · 1 year

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